Devil Jin is done. It's Heihachi time.

[@shinygekkouga52]

The “save that shit for majors” mentality is going to come back in a major way. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a character get nerfed so hard so fast.

[@kingkino2116]

Nah, the urge to make a clickbait video on youtube will always be stronger

[@Dyleniz]

You know dvjs shits bad when your most loyal soldier plays a different character like why are they taking away tech

[@nickt194]

Qudans hasn't dropped Devil Jin once in his carreer, really says a lot lmao

[@Noum77]

Qudans didn't deserve this. Harada really did him dirty

[@felipintao]

Nah, DJ is top tier since the first game he was introduced and it's not like he's thrash tier, he's mid and of course a mid character isn't tournament ready. It's very annoying people downplaying him to the ground, people should be asking for busted characters to be nerfed, not mid characters to be bufffed.

[@shyguy4617]

Devil Jin isnt downplayed he's up played, his kit is p bad, his hellsweeps and charge up are p ok tools but he lacks good mids to support his mix.

[@Hachijo3GS]

@@felipintaoclearly you have no idea what you’re talking about

[@dohnaseek]

@@felipintao downplay my ass more like people are up playing him. Imagine ur most loyal main for more than 15 years ended up dropping him in the biggest tekken tournament. DVJ is a genuine shit character especially for high stakes tourneys with big dogs like this theres no denying that, not speaking for ranked games bcs tier actually doesnt matter there. Also just wanna add bro isnt even mid tier lmao

[@kappa3389]

@@felipintao Mid/bad character should be buffed. Games gets boring when it's just nerfing strong character

[@YourTamedLion]

Devil Jin players knew how shit he was since many months. Qudans sticking with him as long as he did was not rational.

[@dohnaseek]

People used to made fun of him saying "of course hes loyal to dvj the character is broken" while him tried to stay loyal with him for the whole year and decided it doesnt work bcs of how shit dvj is lmao

[@lefthandrule638]

Never thought I’d see the day Qudans would turn his back on Devil Jin… really says something about the state of the character in Tekken 8

[@robertduerler2226]

Qudans took a game with Heihachi. I think we need to nerf dvj

[@zalandarr]

also nerf heihachi didnt u see those reddit clips of a hellsweep string tracking some redrank player oh noes.

[@Kruzeda]

Hopefully S2 will make Qudans return to Devil Jin

[@Nahmbre]

Hope season 2 fixes devil Jin the way we’ve been crying for

[@viktorkurious3340]

bro everytime im going up agaisnt a devil jin im just like damn that combo dropped

[@onma07ksa]

Sheesh. It's fucking so bad if cheer for ur opponent's combo

[@FlowMega100]

I love your videos so much man, thank you for always uploading

[@TemperedPuro]

Devil Jin mains are about to rise from the grave with this one. 💀 We'll also probably get one more patch before season 2.

[@CertifiedMVP]

let's reword the term "downplay" to "no sauce" I have played numerous characters in T8. DJ definitely has no sauce. sure you can still get max rank with DJ. but good luck. you will have MUCH MUCH MUCH easier time getting max rank with yoshi or alisa or even victor. no reason to play DJ besides his cool design. better off picking kazuya or heihachi

[@idontknowwhattous3]

Not even a dvj main and this saddens me. Condolences to the loyalists

[@skwadboss]

I'VE SEEN ENOUGH... NERF DEVIL JIN

[@0kills]

Maybe the real devil jin is the friends we make along the way 😢

[@Sonyonline8]

Man I love the outro I keep rewinding it!

[@soldier257]

I’ve been frustrated at Devil Jin since launch. Here i am, playing my first Tekken ever and i wanna challenge myself by playing Devil Jin cuz i thought he was cool and heard he was really strong if albeit hard to play. Was more than a little pissed to learn how weak he was now and he’s only gotten weaker. Why Harada-san, why?

[@AngeloNeroSparda]

I hope DVJ makes a comeback in S2 between the character adjustments and the new moves. I'd love if they gave him some of Angel Jin's unique moves (balanced accordingly, of course), they looked really dope

[@lordmango6060]

1:25 This kinda saddens me as someone who is "new" to Tekken. All the characters are so cool and I want to play them all. Finally got to purple with both Lidia and Alisa the other day, and I wanna play with more!

[@PhiDX]

I should clarify that I think it's a solo main game for hyper competitive players. For most people, trying out everyone is worthwhile!

[@fredericksmith7013]

I made it to Fujin on Alisa, Asuka and Paul and still am struggling myself to find a main, so I'm right there with you trying out everyone I possibly can! In reality, like Phi said above, this game bein a "one character" game really only matters at the absolutely highest level of tournament play; For everyone else, playing everyone you can who interests you can be an exceptionally rewarding experience, both for personal enjoyment and as well growth of knowledge.

[@WelchNBE]

Heihachi was literally my alternative for dvj once he dropped lol

[@prodbydev0id]

I swear all the dvjs i know from lounge jumped ship to hei 😂

[@1lpanddbz]

Love the vids man. I’d love to see more of you covering TheJon’s run, his king is insane and he had a beautiful run in this tournament

[@ratfink2079]

Nah, I'm investing into devil jin for those season 2 changes. I BELIEVE!

[@alienweeb1701]

the old gods finding their form in a new environment is beautiful thing to see

[@Supersmallpig]

Yeah that Qudan one is a signature painful to watch him throw away main because of character performance 😢

[@YaBoiBigSmoke147]

Love you bro! ❤

[@Moonlight437]

It feels wrong not seeing Qudans on DVJ.

[@Shiratto]

Between BigBird dropping Marisa in Street Fighter and Qudans with DvJ it's a bad year for me to look at my mains in tourneys

[@a.sadoun1888]

Sick commentary again. A match by Knee would be cool here✌️

[@NateBiggsby]

Any Lee tournament replays??? 🙏🏾

[@BotchaLoa4]

This is the newest video so I'll leave my progress here I'm currently Learning all of Lidias Frames 3-2 and her 1//1-4 (Jab Punish Work wonders and a small sprinkle of Forward 3-4 (Usually in round 2) The Forward Forward 1 and Forward Forward 2 both leave me at +6 on block and allows a quick Political Storm And by that point most players are at 1hp and that's not including that wall Frame Trap Down Forward 4-4 while in heat just deletes your health bar by 8 chip DMG each block causing a quick panic allowing some nasty punishment [Edit this was not the newest video] (Double edit it was the newest. I tricked myself)

[@km7136]

They nerfed Lili so hard when she won Evo Japan, is kuma next again...

[@isshintheguy4172]

Qudans cant be assed to play the worst mishima, so he settled for the 2nd worst 😁

[@The_Buff_Guy]

Heihachi is a bit more viable than kazuya for tournament due to better neutral control and consistency.

[@kenauro7169]

@@The_Buff_Guy no?

[@The_Buff_Guy]

@@kenauro7169 yes. Qudans plays kazuya and yet he chose heihachi. Heihachi was generally more represented at the TWT. Leemishima plays all the mishimas and yet he chose heihachi. Clearly there’s something the pros and I know that you guys aren’t aware of yet, and I’m trying to express that.

[@JobeLovo]

​@@The_Buff_GuyDoesn't kazuya have better neutral control because of devil fist ? Heihachi doesn't really have a demon paw like that his version has less range and tracking

[@The_Buff_Guy]

@ kazuya has better neutral past range 2.5, whereas heihachi controls the neutral from range 0-2.5. That’s more effective for tournament, which is why heihachi is the better tournament pick. If all you have past range 2.5 is 1 move, everyone in tournament will immediately identify what your next move most likely will be. Then apply the appropriate counter play, which is sidestep left with correct timing, or just block. Then kazuya is in your face, which is not where he wants to be. Heihachi wants to force pressure at close range and keep you there, and he’s great at doing that with 1,b2, df1,1, JF df1,2, f4 into stance pressure, and Electric. He can also apply pressure a bit further away with b4 to counter hit launch, which tracks to SSL. Heihachi just has more options available to him in more situations every round.

[@tylerkennedy698]

@7:06 victor mains can we share what the move is at the end of the combo? after iai 2, cant seem to figure it out.

[@diroysama8558]

Please cover the final match. And Stiff vs. Rangchu too. And Hworang, Edge matches.

[@shura30]

Qudans is using Heihachi for a while almost since he's been released, I try and watch as many matches I can since I main the same character but something feels off while watching him, especially if compared to other Hei users such as JDCR. My guess is Qudans tends to lose focus after a while in the round, while he's being aggressive, only few players can stand a chance (even if it's online ranked, you can see him play the same peers he would in a tournament) but at some point he just stops and lets the opponent take over, the feeling is like he's not putting enough pressure using his character's tools (same as DVJ even if he's low tier), the opponents simply don't see a threat coming and run him over. While still being world class level, I believe he's one of the top players still playing T7 or another installment.

[@The_Buff_Guy]

Devil jin is garbage right now. Kazuya is super strong but much harder than the other mishimas in tournament due to consistency issues. Heihachi is the solid choice here. He has better poking and neutral control than kazuya and Devil jin, and that alone will bring you much further in tournament when you don’t have many rounds to work with. Heihachi > kazuya > Devil jin right now.

[@Mhashim118]

Saying Hei has better neutral control than Kaz is crazy, especially in a tournament where anything that can be stepped will be stepped.

[@momzilla2010]

Qudans is my hero

[@thecackisback]

They need to nerf the heavy chip on some characters. I know qudans was struggling in general but that chip damage is just lame af. (Edit) if anyone know the counter play to that id love to know if there is any.

[@StriderZessei]

Balanced or not, I love watching a good Heihachi.

[@canteloupe3254]

In the sense of the Mishima Style of gameplay across the series, is there any particular reasons that a Devil Jin player might switch over to Heihachi, in other games besides Tekken 8?

[@jamaalchardavoine1453]

Real talk phi finna go crazy once he gets his hands on Clive

[@bpmproductions5946]

Long time fan and pro sound designer here. The gate on your voice is more distracting than if you just had the room tone in your pauses. Just my 2 cents. Long live phidx nerf devil jin amen

[@PhiDX]

Tyty, yeah the gate is more to prevent stray controller and speaker noises through since I don't use headphones I wish I had a better solution to the ambient preamp noise

[@traezaX1]

What did they do to my boy 😢😢😢😢😢

[@c.c.anubis]

Phi, if you continue making your videos where you play characters as simple as possible, could you please do one for Alisa please? I'm really curious on how you would play her.

[@TheDiamondSkye]

I think you can react Victor uf11, even if he delays it. The animation is just so fluid that it's hard to mistake it, and the cancel is longer than the delay. So there's no real "mashing" against it. It's at least something in sure qudans had practiced, but it's a reactionary thing.

[@risktorise2103]

Qudan look pretty good, maybe more times to adjust. Besides I likes to watch Heihachi, unfortunately not many play him in tournament.

[@gaminpowercrusher]

i just want to ask can i use razer wolverine v3 controller and customize its button in tournament like using all 4 back buttons

[@jimathiah]

😊

[@theogshaz]

2:50 the fact thats heal and chip damage on block in enough to tell you how BS heihachi is and yet people will complain about Jin being OP

[@Datdaniel90]

They really need to nerf Heihachi or fix chip damage

[@irohofthewest6294]

Ah yes let's ignore heihachis glaring weaknesses and glaze one move to downplay Jin who had 3 players in top 8 and 0 heihachi. CLASSIC

[@theogshaz]

@@irohofthewest6294 the guy who require precise counters or parties versus the guy who can spam heals on safe

[@HarrisonMontgomery]

@@irohofthewest6294nah bro he has a point man his point is…….

[@doncinati7644]

I can’t wait till ppl realize how broken his heal is lol, literally on par with Yoshis

[@Nimrod336]

I just found something weird with lee did anyone know you can kara cancel into all of lees hms moves with his hms jab? I can hms4 people from dang near 3 4ths screen now..

[@km7136]

Ulsan dropped reina for drag, I think Reina is pretty garbage unless your name is yagami and that guy trolled with Nina.

[@aZ1d]

I mean he probably didnt switch to Heihachi because of the lows cause Heihachis lows are worse than deviljins. Db2 for Hei is launch on block and its 23f startup, its -13 for DJ and its 22f startup, Heis hellsweep doesnt guarantee anything while DJs does. My guess is that Heis heatsmash is better and his damage is better and he has a better counterhit mid in b4. But honestly i think Qudans loses because of weird decision making, he looks nothing like his old self.

[@Nixendz]

Agree a lot of his decisions were weird, maybe will take qudan a bit to actually perform with heihachi he relaint on electric and getting em launcher his 50/50 isnt like kazuya, his gameplan is counterhit like bryan, electric, perfect electric reliant

[@lilbxz9905]

if dvj have ff3 like jin or kaz he will be fine c:

[@UrbanZion341]

I subscribed

[@muhammadkemalpasha7016]

even with the switch he still lose just go back man

[@zackfair1868]

yes i wont argue with you he has been nerfed from the last stretch of tekken 7 and this tekken 8 its like im talking but you do it all if it even qudans how he dropped our boi..

[@tefyrapela2714]

Mad respect for you @PhiDX, but your excuse for not trying Victor is bullshit If you don't like de char, that's fine But rn i feel like your holding on some kind of "level" you have with Lili... Which is dumb, we're still not even S2, you have time to learn the char and it's okay if you don't perform at first. Just do it. NOW

[@PhiDX]

Not trying? I got him to max rank and still didn't like him LOL

[@neetstuffinc.2300]

Do keisuke vs. ulsan

[@upviisiu]

😔👼👿

[@jordansmith7546]

How do we do the 2nd heat smash

[@kurtrombiz3207]

Do f3 then heatsmash

[@xeroh9894]

Heat smash + forward

[@p1nkgu1tar]

You don't die in tekken it's called knock out or K.O

[@axelrossvillarin9505]

This is painful to watch..... The respect i have and admiration for quadans , champion or not is simply amazing. Stuck on devil jin on decades, been loyal since then. Even if he lose or won still keeps playing the char. Him dropping dj just speaks alot on how worst dj got. People keep saying dj is strong in the past titles but this no brain peps dont even stop and wonder why not a lot of peps use him in the past , cause mishima is hard and dj as one is no exception. His a high execution technical char. You cant just press button , hard = strong thats how effort should get rewarded, not easy = strong.

[@dohnaseek]

this exactly. Past finals were never got dominated by DJ whatsoever (for example like the BS T6 bob, T7 leroy), only qudans who can manage to get him consistently to top placing. As "broken" as he was, hes not the character you can simply plug and play and expecting astounding results.

[@andreirving779]

Cover The Jon again.

[@SGNR_]

Phidx i need major help. I can't play neutral for shit and i can't defend for shit.

[@arvinsim]

It's good that they nerf him. If we follow the lore, we will not see him in Tekken 9. Better to rip off the band aid now.

[@jenshansenhavde]

qudans would have eaten him if he had had time to fully study hei

[@Donokyothelast]

Take out Devil Jin put in Devil Reina 😈

[@PorkBelly-]

Nerf devil jin

[@Dots4knots20]

Cries in season 4 t7 Dragunov

[@elopez1882]

This is terrible. Buff Drag

[@Yorsem]

All we do is downplay characters, we wouldn't be Tekken players otherwise

[@trinixjin8039]

Heihachi is probably the best mishima now, arguably best jab, has a lot of semi tracking attacks and pokes, decent forced non reactable mix ups, crazy damage and a single round massive buff.

[@GoldenStorm-gs7lx]

Nah kazuya is better. Not counting jin of course.

[@kdaristotle9529]

Jin, Kazuya, and Reina are all easily better than Hei

[@TriscoG]

Heihachi has horrible tracking and terrible lows, with very few routes to bring offense

[@dohnaseek]

hei is 2nd worst mishima. Also brother if ur counting jin as mishima theres literally 4 jin and 1 kaz in top 16

[@zalandarr]

ppl saying stuff like this never played a mishima in their life fr fr

[@jaleelkahn7032]

Idk, as a regular person I've never stuck to one character. Sounds boring. At the very least I enjoy taking many characters to lab and see what they're working with

[@geezustempest]

Qudans with his DVJ made me a tekken player hope they fixes him and see him back with his main again