Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - PS5 Ray Tracing + 120Hz Modes Tested!

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@GigaTrope
@GigaTrope 4 жыл бұрын
hardware engineer: "Yo check this new ray tracing technology." Level designer: "Yo check this, two mirrors facing eachothe-" hardware: *explodes*
@jorge69696
@jorge69696 4 жыл бұрын
Minecraft RTX supports up to 8 bounces on PC which is pretty cool. You can make a proper mirror room there.
@Audfile
@Audfile 4 жыл бұрын
@@jorge69696 hey, these...blocks.. go on forever! But hey, it's a start.
@chrisbullock6477
@chrisbullock6477 4 жыл бұрын
Designers and Engineers with years of experience and education: "Yo come check out these lack luster teens and 20's something kids comments on youtube....clueless"
@johnsmith-ck4qt
@johnsmith-ck4qt 4 жыл бұрын
Ray tracing is a new thing just for the real time applications, like video games. But the technology is around for decades now. Also devs can easily control the max number of light bounces in the engine, so its not an issue.
@Taijifufu
@Taijifufu 4 жыл бұрын
Funny comment, but Quake2 RTX has a room of mirrors that have up to 2(?) bounces. And that RTX demo for that Soviet game has reflections in reflections. It's already a thing.
@Fastwalker27
@Fastwalker27 4 жыл бұрын
Other PS5 developers : Dynamic resolutions and Locked frame rate DMC developers : Locked resolution and dynamic frame rates
@unbotheredpete
@unbotheredpete 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣I’m dead
@kseries1981
@kseries1981 4 жыл бұрын
"Dynamic frame rate" lol
@Ultimagicarus
@Ultimagicarus 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ!
@nachodef
@nachodef 4 жыл бұрын
Top comment
@SergentXII
@SergentXII 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment so far ! 🤣
@jubei20111
@jubei20111 4 жыл бұрын
You could go surfing on that 120 FPS graph.
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 4 жыл бұрын
Or go off-road on a bike
@jubei20111
@jubei20111 4 жыл бұрын
@@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 reminded me of Excite Bike on the NES.
@jackoski__19
@jackoski__19 4 жыл бұрын
@FUCK YOU MARK SUCKERBERG AND GOOGLE ASSHOLE in this game maybe, we will see what’ll happen with other games that support 120fps on ps5 and how the series x will do with this game as well.
@Tim....
@Tim.... 4 жыл бұрын
@FUCK YOU MARK SUCKERBERG AND GOOGLE ASSHOLE Xbots dumb as always
@racky2
@racky2 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad the PS5 doesn't have VRR. As far as I know, that would make it seem smoother, despite the inconsistency.
@bradleyfelix3541
@bradleyfelix3541 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the comments : my tv can't do 120fps. That one guy : My time to shine.
@AhmazinSKM
@AhmazinSKM 4 жыл бұрын
Bling, Bling!
@MarkMcCartney
@MarkMcCartney 4 жыл бұрын
"Cough, cough" 😁
@WhirlingMusic
@WhirlingMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Get this. My monitor can do 120hz. BUT only through DisplayPort. Yeah sucks. Unable to do it through HDMI.
@smilewhenyourbleedin
@smilewhenyourbleedin 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! Brought the lg c9 last year....1 more day till I can expierance the 120hz
@MarkMcCartney
@MarkMcCartney 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhirlingMusic can't you get a new display cable for hdmi?
@weaverquest
@weaverquest 4 жыл бұрын
Revving Nero's weapon up was one of the first things that came to my mind after learning about adaptive triggers. Surprised Capcon actually added it in.
@Andre217
@Andre217 4 жыл бұрын
Oh please we're know you're on the development team.:p Just playing nice call love when devs are on same page.
@Reveries0129
@Reveries0129 4 жыл бұрын
@Q17 i mean you can easily turn it off if you want. I'm just curious as to how it'd feel when youre doing the quick-rev (i forgot what it's actually called), like reving the sword right before it hits an enemy to quickly rev the sword up one level. Wonder if it'll hinder our ability to do it consistently with that. Excited to try nontheless
@KillahMate
@KillahMate 4 жыл бұрын
@Q17 I don't think the resistance feels the way you think it does.
@darrenhuntington7319
@darrenhuntington7319 3 жыл бұрын
Playstation gimmicks not interested in fancy lights, vibrations drawing on or smelling the controller it just kills power, just gimme good games @ a decent price
@Jambobist
@Jambobist 4 жыл бұрын
1080p 60hz with ray tracing is a pretty sweet option for us non-4k TV owning peasants.
@vasilisskarlatopoulos9051
@vasilisskarlatopoulos9051 4 жыл бұрын
thats something every developer should consider.there are a lot 1080p series x/ps5 buyers out there.
@Nikelangelo
@Nikelangelo 4 жыл бұрын
Well, depends on what 1080p 60hz you have, if it's the plasma like John Mentioned, it's probably a much better gaming time than a low end 4k LCD TV that has either high input lag with all the processing or bad hdr in game mode.
@killakb8719
@killakb8719 4 жыл бұрын
That is not next gen though at all??? Xbox had 4k games run at 60 fps on xbox x.... This is terrible!!!! WTF??? Glad I made the jump to a powerful PC rig... Over this hype of consoles to really add nothing new other than load times being better
@belland_dog8235
@belland_dog8235 4 жыл бұрын
@@killakb8719 Please stop talking, god you sound stupid.
@killakb8719
@killakb8719 4 жыл бұрын
@@belland_dog8235 calm down child.... You butt hurt that this game runs like your face looks like?? Shittt??? Ps5 is utter trash
@avocadopicture
@avocadopicture 4 жыл бұрын
Took me a while to realize they're misreading Qliphoth as Oliphoth
@zachspiller8565
@zachspiller8565 4 жыл бұрын
I'm at around 10 minutes in, just realized it and scrolled down to find this comment lol
@skootdiggity1301
@skootdiggity1301 4 жыл бұрын
@IRON MARA Is that where it's from? I knew it from Berserk.
@AsianBoah
@AsianBoah 4 жыл бұрын
I knew something was off
@aidanklobuchar1798
@aidanklobuchar1798 4 жыл бұрын
@IRON MARA It's the Hellish opposite to the Heavenly Sephirot!
@r3tr4d
@r3tr4d 4 жыл бұрын
This made me remember that Tom always pronounces Geralt (from The Witcher series) as Jeralt.
@giedmich
@giedmich 4 жыл бұрын
I remember circa 2005-06 and onwards there was this BLOOM obsession in games, BLOOM everywhere and on everything. Now we have puddles. ALL THE PUDDLES. EVERYWHERE.
@kenshigo3833
@kenshigo3833 4 жыл бұрын
They even put puddles all over athletes in sports games ^^
@iecoie
@iecoie 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenshigo3833 True .. it is cool, but "enough is enough" is a valid statement, and those gloriously RT-flective puddles are not exception. RT is still new for me, so I´m currently in the "wow & gimme more" stage of appreciation, but I can foresee the future in which this once fresh and exciting feature might be actualy bothersome and distracting.
@MrKutKuGaruga96
@MrKutKuGaruga96 4 жыл бұрын
GTA SA mods came to my mind, ENB Series and all that shit…
@Krisgebis
@Krisgebis 4 жыл бұрын
Bloom was way earlier, mate. PS1 games had Bloom.
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I remember it well, Serious Sam 2 had so much bloom in it on the PC version that it was blinding from what I remember. Developers are always like this with a new toy, they go overboard with it lol.
@y_auc60seb20
@y_auc60seb20 3 жыл бұрын
Native 4k and 60fps, that's all I needed
@Mojavekight17
@Mojavekight17 3 жыл бұрын
Is it great?
@saifsaif-kc9uy
@saifsaif-kc9uy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mojavekight17 Yep! I tested it and it runs very smooth, the cutscenes really gets a lot of dips tho
@Aries0098
@Aries0098 3 жыл бұрын
120 fps is where it's at..
@ricksterdrummer2170
@ricksterdrummer2170 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aries0098 I find it highly unnecessary unless you’re playing multiplayer.
@Aries0098
@Aries0098 3 жыл бұрын
@@ricksterdrummer2170 Not really, no. Once you feel high frame-rate, there's no going back.
@chilly6470
@chilly6470 4 жыл бұрын
To my eyes, Ray tracing adds very little to this game. I'm not going to be standing still, looking at the reflection of balloons in a puddle.
@DarkSharingan21
@DarkSharingan21 4 жыл бұрын
Gamers care about most meniscal things. Like who really gives a rat's ass about real time reflections?
@hydrow6
@hydrow6 4 жыл бұрын
Until you realize an enemy sneaking up on you in the reflection of a window
@serialkillerx4746
@serialkillerx4746 4 жыл бұрын
Its not just the reflections, it changes the lightening as well. The little sewer section looks rly cool with RT on.
@chodori2041
@chodori2041 4 жыл бұрын
For this game, no. DMC gameplay by nature will always prioritize performance above any aesthetic considerations. But Capcom will be using popular response on ray tracing implementation as feedback for future games, many which aren't nearly as fast-paced or focused on combat.
@archetype6351
@archetype6351 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on the impact it makes. Here yes, not worth it. But on Miles Morales I was quite impressed to the point I'd rather have it on with 30fps. Very subjective I guess.
@IIAnointedII
@IIAnointedII 4 жыл бұрын
I will never understand the obsession with such high resolutions being forced at the expense of performance. We need more control and flexibility over our display options. Not pc levels of control but we can’t rely on these devs with some of the stuff they put out.
@BrianBaastrup
@BrianBaastrup 4 жыл бұрын
I will never understand the exact opposite...
@MrKutKuGaruga96
@MrKutKuGaruga96 4 жыл бұрын
Facts. It's not worth it.
@Nebras-yc4sp
@Nebras-yc4sp 4 жыл бұрын
The first reason is that there are more people with a 4k TV compared to a 120 hz TV
@rincewindthewizzard6594
@rincewindthewizzard6594 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrianBaastrup Try 120hz monitor with game running 120fps or higher and you will understand. Higher refresh rate and fps makes controls more responsive. It feels a lot better than 30/60 FPS.
@EVPointMaster
@EVPointMaster 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Games also look much better at 120/144 because you get much better motion clarity
@MisterDrumsNoob
@MisterDrumsNoob 4 жыл бұрын
Tom + Alex + John! I seems like we've got a DF triple! Nice
@franzusgutlus54
@franzusgutlus54 4 жыл бұрын
A...threesome?
@crescentmoon256
@crescentmoon256 4 жыл бұрын
Richard destroys this trio he is the number one boos of the bosses second is Alex bugagai, he tends to focus on the limitations of the games
@darkl3ad3r
@darkl3ad3r 4 жыл бұрын
Here I am just flabbergasted that we can't even get a Tom video anymore, Alex just has to tag along in everything.
@saltychop9315
@saltychop9315 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love if more developers do 1080p RT modes to reach RT at 60fps locked. On a game like Spider-Man MM I think it would be by far the best option.
@awesomebobgaming
@awesomebobgaming 4 жыл бұрын
Hi l agree. 1080 60 RT locked in addition 2 the following modes as well! > 4k30 hi fidelity RT > 4k reconstructed or native 4k Super hi fidelity graphics mofe with superior fx & texture details etc. > hi performance 1440p (or higher) 120fps > 4k60fps locked. Ive consulted numerous top game devs who use a PS5 dev kit & all agree its a very powerful, versatile & superbly designed. XD 😁👊👍💪
@saltychop9315
@saltychop9315 4 жыл бұрын
@@awesomebobgaming Yes, hopefully developers will push the boundaries of what can be made with the new consoles and give us many settings to choose from! It’s just launch but already DMC5, Demon’s Souls, Spiderman, Dirt 5 and many more have many graphical options to choose from, so it’s not crazy to think that after launch there will be feedback of what players liked and found useful and with that they’ll build the future of this new gen. Exciting times!
@weaverquest
@weaverquest 4 жыл бұрын
@@saltychop9315 If you only have 1080p screen yes, but on a 4K display I wouldn't sacrifice the beautiful 4K textures, models and overall artwork in Spider-Man MM for some reflections. However I bet once Insomniac really gets the optimize stuff for Spider-Man 2 we will get both.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 жыл бұрын
@@weaverquest I thought 4K and ray tracing are combined together in one mode while the performance mode is 1080p 60fps.
@weaverquest
@weaverquest 4 жыл бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M If we are talking about Spider-Man MM the performance mode is dynamic 4K hovering around 1728p (probably higher during cutscenes and stuff but either way massive resolution boost over 1080p). Also even though ray-tracing is turned off in performance mode there are still other lighting improvements compared to PS4 and Pro version than just ray-tracing.
@chrismorrison5301
@chrismorrison5301 4 жыл бұрын
I like the ray tracing performance mode because my monitor can only hit 1080p, so I'm happy about this. Edit: I hope other developers realise a lot of people still use a 1080p monitor and account for this in the settings like capcom have here.
@3style965
@3style965 4 жыл бұрын
me too, 1080p@120 is perfect for me I have a 4k TV but idc to use it for gaming
@chrismorrison5301
@chrismorrison5301 4 жыл бұрын
@@3style965 I can get that, I agree 1080p is all you need at the end of the day, for gaming and at my monitor size (24 inch) 4k is massive diminishing returns cause on that size you can barely tell the difference between 1080p and 4k unless you're right up in it's business.
@88oscuro
@88oscuro 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't had a 1080p monitor for 7 years 🙈
@chrismorrison5301
@chrismorrison5301 4 жыл бұрын
@@88oscuro with my set up a big display would be far from ideal and at the size of my display 4k would be wasted because of pixel density and how much we can see at what size, it would be diminishing returns
@3style965
@3style965 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrismorrison5301 yeah my gaming monitor is 24 inches too. I don’t think 24 inch 4k displays are even available, 27 is the smallest you can find I believe.
@adammohrone
@adammohrone 4 жыл бұрын
Sony really needs to come out and assure us that vrr is on the way.
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 жыл бұрын
Shame it's not here as it really is a game changer. If it's not out by January it would have been really nice to be the few who got an Xbox then.
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skylancer727 Imagine if they come out with a type of vrr that only works with Sony TV's? Joking aside there'd probably be people out there defending such a decision and that's actually sad. Your average human is extremely prone to being manipulated by good marketing.
@JFinns
@JFinns 4 жыл бұрын
It should definitely be coming, it's a feature even 5-6 year old GPUs like GTX 9 and 10 series cards have.
@one_up907
@one_up907 4 жыл бұрын
If your TV supports HDMI 2.1 then VRR is in it, VRR is standard for HDMI 2.1
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 жыл бұрын
@@one_up907 yes but the TV and output device need to be able to read and output a VRR signal which right now the PS5 does not do as Digital Foundry discovered and Sony confirmed. Even if the TV can read a VRR signal and the PS5 has HDMI 2.1, not outputting VRR means it doesn't work for the TV. As such the PS5 as of right now does not have VRR.
@MisticDW
@MisticDW 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin really doing it's best to make the game look like it's running at 720p
@V1CT1MIZED
@V1CT1MIZED 4 жыл бұрын
Well it's running closer to 720p than it is to 4k. Ray tracing is not going to age well on the consoles
@prabeshgurung1067
@prabeshgurung1067 4 жыл бұрын
@@V1CT1MIZED it's playing at least 1080p
@V1CT1MIZED
@V1CT1MIZED 4 жыл бұрын
@@prabeshgurung1067 exactly. It's closer to 720p than 4k. Pretty shoddy all things considered
@mindblow7617
@mindblow7617 4 жыл бұрын
@@V1CT1MIZED it's a patched current-gen game, also it's not "close" to 720p, and there's plenty of next-gen games looking great with RT
@thenoobperspective7588
@thenoobperspective7588 4 жыл бұрын
@@V1CT1MIZED The RT quality mode runs higher resolution than the PS4 Pro version, which is very very far from 720p..
@thechimera1333
@thechimera1333 4 жыл бұрын
I just want more next gen coverage from DF!
@one_up907
@one_up907 4 жыл бұрын
NXGamer is really good too, Highly underrated.
@xicario129
@xicario129 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't next gen lol.
@cha0siithe0ry19
@cha0siithe0ry19 4 жыл бұрын
yeah man digital foundry answers all the questions you need before purchase 😊
@Enigma1158
@Enigma1158 4 жыл бұрын
xicario129 Better than anything you’ll be able to afford lol.
@hoodhussler1226
@hoodhussler1226 4 жыл бұрын
Next gen games aren’t out yet this right here is like the previous generation where remastered games came out at release but my money is on Microsoft this generation anyway Sony is ditching the East and getting more Woke
@jonathanlee726
@jonathanlee726 4 жыл бұрын
As a college kid, there’s no way I’ll be able to afford any next-gen console for quite a while. But the arrival of the next gen is so exciting if only for all the digital foundry videos.
@zik7724
@zik7724 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh just wait 2 years and buy it when you'll get better ps plus games, it'll be cheaper, you will know what suits you better ps5 or xbox series x, possible release of slim version with higher cpu and gpu clocks and you can get cheap used games for 20 bucks while now you'll need to pay 70.
@opnavesea
@opnavesea 4 жыл бұрын
i bought 100 dollars worth of cvc on coinbase and turned it into 2500 in three days. and a bunch of coins are getting ready to pump.
@zik7724
@zik7724 4 жыл бұрын
@@opnavesea Sure if money making was that easy everyone would be rich af ;)
@shybassboy
@shybassboy 4 жыл бұрын
When your done college you'll be broke paying the student loan working a grocery store like the rest of us, so don't get too excited lol.
@luigiwoo4469
@luigiwoo4469 4 жыл бұрын
exact same for me! I remember being 11-12 when the PS4 launched and it was the first gen launch I remember. I can't really afford a PS5 rn but I'm happy for the kids of today who have such a great choice this time round
@josuezuniga5208
@josuezuniga5208 4 жыл бұрын
At last! A game with option to 1080p, 60fps and with Ray Traicing. Now, "this" is epic. :p
@HondaAccordPerformance
@HondaAccordPerformance 4 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Feitosa Happy with my 1080p plasma which supports 48hz, 60hz and 96hz options
@tabkg5802
@tabkg5802 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing DMC in 60 fps. Couldn't be me
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 жыл бұрын
@@HondaAccordPerformance I'm not sure those Hz output modes is anything to be happy about because most competent developers will do the opposite of what Capcom did in this game aka they'll lock the framerate and use dynamic resolutions if anything. This method that Capcom went with forced resolutions and dynamic framerate is terrible.
@HondaAccordPerformance
@HondaAccordPerformance 4 жыл бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Yeah it’s not good for plus I’m surprised it can’t hold 60fps without ray tracing maybe series x will be better if Alex was right and it’s a bandwidth limitation 448gb/s on ps5 vs. 560gb/s on series x. I just wonder if playing on a plasma will be noticeable at 120hz and 1080p I’m sure HDMI 1.3/4 supports up to 120gz and 1080p not certain though
@MysticMage255
@MysticMage255 4 жыл бұрын
So excited to see all the PS5 games being tested. Thank you Digital Foundry for doing all this!
@PalapaSlap
@PalapaSlap 4 жыл бұрын
I love ya, Tom, but every time you call the Qliphoth the "ollypoth" it hurts me a bit.
@ITNoetic
@ITNoetic 4 жыл бұрын
Facts. I just stopped at 7:40 to leave a comment about this. Ollypot. As if this game's made up words and names weren't weird enough!
@TaimatCR
@TaimatCR 4 жыл бұрын
😂 I was thinking the same thing
@3style965
@3style965 4 жыл бұрын
how do you say it? "clee-poth"? or is the vowel sound in poth reduced to a schwa? - more like p-(eh)-th?
@BlueNinjaXX
@BlueNinjaXX 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I said lol
@SeanBarkerNegaScott128
@SeanBarkerNegaScott128 4 жыл бұрын
@@3style965 More like "kly-fot." They say it a lot in the game itself, even in cutscenes that are shown in the video, so I'm surprised Tom isn't pronouncing it correctly. Maybe he skipped through them and someone else recorded that footage?
@O1Kanoby
@O1Kanoby 4 жыл бұрын
Sony needs to add 1440p to the PS5
@TheSKEEEP
@TheSKEEEP 4 жыл бұрын
Sony stated that they will if there is a demand for it.
@kseries1981
@kseries1981 4 жыл бұрын
Would be nice. I don't see why they don't.
@one_up907
@one_up907 4 жыл бұрын
@@kseries1981 cause the majority of console gamers play on TV's.
@KjetilBalstad
@KjetilBalstad 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSKEEEP Hm, didn't they say no just a few days ago?
@mcnugget9497
@mcnugget9497 4 жыл бұрын
@@one_up907 the more options the better pretty dumb it didn't launch with ps5
@kryskanarutowicz2126
@kryskanarutowicz2126 4 жыл бұрын
I would love that every game have a 1080p graphics mode like this one
@saltychop9315
@saltychop9315 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! Imagine Spider-Man MM with RT at 60fps on 1080p.
@doohuh
@doohuh 4 жыл бұрын
But they want to sell 4k/8k tvs
@mattyork7625
@mattyork7625 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda torn. If I had a smaller nice monitor i wouldn't mind 1080p but I'm thinking it's gonna look a little soft on my big 4k display.
@kryskanarutowicz2126
@kryskanarutowicz2126 4 жыл бұрын
@@saltychop9315 yaaaasss. I have 1080p monitor and that's enough for me. I want to play on it in 60 fps graphic mode not the fracking 30fps and use only half of console power
@ninjascroll1017
@ninjascroll1017 4 жыл бұрын
Matt York i have a 49” 4k oled and 1080p looks like native resolution picture
@paulnamalomba194
@paulnamalomba194 4 жыл бұрын
VRR is looking extremely necessary now, comparing Gears 5 with VRR to this is night and day. We should see the Xbox version to see the VRR effect.
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 жыл бұрын
Well VRR isn't something they can show in video, it's more something that only helps in person. KZbin runs at the 60hz refresh rate so the improvements VRR has can't be seen through youtube. But yeah it does look necessary for next gen. Shame PS5 doesn't support VRR or Freesync at launch. Even worse though that Sony only intends to add HDMI's VRR and not Freesync which has LFC.
@lordbandi9804
@lordbandi9804 4 жыл бұрын
Def waiting to see the video on how this performs on the Series X now, John should be able to provide some insight into how the VRR performs with that OLED!!
@LycanNaryko
@LycanNaryko 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordbandi9804 the oled cx has major issues with vrr. It basically ruins the black levels and it seems a fix is not coming anytime soon. You can read about it on KZbin or the inet.
@lordbandi9804
@lordbandi9804 4 жыл бұрын
@@LycanNaryko I’ve heard about it, need to see it for myself on my own set, I have C9 and Series X right now!
@paulnamalomba194
@paulnamalomba194 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skylancer727 VRR does aid with frame time issues tho right?. Maybe could improve some of the frame drop issues in the performance mode.
@serialkillerx4746
@serialkillerx4746 4 жыл бұрын
did you guys forgot the dark knight mode ? It would be rly interesting how stable the framerate is with tons of enemies on the screen.
@HatedJared
@HatedJared 4 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time caring about ray tracing. Its cool technology. I'm glad it exists. I'm not trading resolution or FPS for it though.
@Blubididar
@Blubididar 4 жыл бұрын
@Cyberdemon Mike There's a lot of people who need a consistent higher fps like 60+ to not get motion sick/headaches
@dvornikovalexei
@dvornikovalexei 4 жыл бұрын
@Cyberdemon Mike Perfect 60 fps is necessary unless you have potato eyes
@luisdias3939
@luisdias3939 4 жыл бұрын
@Cyberdemon Mike i have seen it and prefer the 60 fps
@belland_dog8235
@belland_dog8235 4 жыл бұрын
"It's a cool technology" Is the understatement of the the last 3 decades. It's the biggest leap in how a game looks since 3D games were made. (Or whenever everything stopped looking like minecraft, and looked actually real)
@yoda9256
@yoda9256 4 жыл бұрын
Ray Tracing is pretty and a nice feature, but a performance mode should be needed on all games
@sharkart
@sharkart 4 жыл бұрын
I never felt better about my 1080p 60" plasma! Thanks John! haha PS: When will you launch that video where you tell us how plasma TVs can do better than led TVs in this new generation?
@iecoie
@iecoie 4 жыл бұрын
I feel great about it whenever I watch some well made Criterion (BFI, Eureka, etc.) blu-Ray title on it. But yeah .. it was nice, that our trusty "Old(lad)ies" were mentioned in a good light.
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 4 жыл бұрын
Panny VT60 owner here as well. Plasma is dead. OLED has superior PQ. How far LED has come would be very interesting to see!
@sharkart
@sharkart 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelPohoreski Oled is better overall, but I wanna know about what specific situations plasma does better
@iecoie
@iecoie 4 жыл бұрын
​@@sharkart Main points ad. "better": motion resolution, panel uniformity, shadow detail, natural colour reproduction (native rgb pixels), manages better 1080p (and lower) SDR content .. // ad. "worse": no 4k, no HDR (lower light output in general), (not best but still respectable) blacks, noise, size, power consumption
@iecoie
@iecoie 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelPohoreski Well, not yet + not for me. Certainly not dead - for native 1080p SDR content (that counts in my blu-ray movie collection), not regarding motion clarity (1080 lines of motion resolution) especially in 24p content. Not for game like DMC5 in "RT Performance mode". :). I´m not saying NO to technical progress - OLEDs are great (as I´ve stated few comments above - I´m even planing on purchasing 48'' one next year to use as good 4k HDR PC monitor, once the HDMI 2.1 issues are ironed out), but NO lover of great PQ should say NO to that which latest hi-end plasmas (VT50/60, ZT60, 9th gen. KUROs etc.) are still able to produce.
@1AJBOOMER
@1AJBOOMER 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that now we get options with our systems and they look and play even better is amazing 👍🏼👌🏽
@Wickedroonz
@Wickedroonz 4 жыл бұрын
yeah tell that to watch dogs legion
@ArnoldMejia
@ArnoldMejia 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to almost PC gaming. If only peripheral kept support, really weird how they couldn't make old controllers work with new games.
@samithonjames370
@samithonjames370 4 жыл бұрын
Might as well just get a pc.
@Old-Boy_BEbop
@Old-Boy_BEbop 4 жыл бұрын
@@samithonjames370 or just use a new gen console.
@maxminy5634
@maxminy5634 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like they can easily lock 4k30 with RT or 1080p60 with RT. They should have locked 60fps with dynamic 4k. And the 120fps with dynamic 1440p or something.
@AgsmaJustAgsma
@AgsmaJustAgsma 4 жыл бұрын
7:00 Ray-traced Adam Driver looks gorgeous.
@Mr_CopaceticGamer
@Mr_CopaceticGamer 4 жыл бұрын
This triple threat review was simply fantastic! When John said "let's rock" That was awesome I was instantly hype!!!!!!
@Bestgameplayer10
@Bestgameplayer10 4 жыл бұрын
Sounded just like DMC1 Dante when he said that
@nathaniliescu4597
@nathaniliescu4597 4 жыл бұрын
Sad.
@SuperMonshine
@SuperMonshine 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually very bad,framerate is all over the place! I will stick with my PS4 version and play on PS5 with BC and screw Ray tracing on this... at least on PS5. Let's see if Séries X can actually give a lock RT mode. Lame work done by Capcom no way I'm going to double dip for this crap!
@vapidwolf
@vapidwolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperMonshine the majority of people will only have 60hz so it'll be a locked 60fps
@j3kwe
@j3kwe 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna be honest, I care more about locked 60fps over ray tracing. Not that excited about ray tracing. Solid 60fps makes games look absolutely beautiful.
@RemixerUltimate
@RemixerUltimate 4 жыл бұрын
It's always been locked 60, luckily.
@Irrelevant_Interests
@Irrelevant_Interests 4 жыл бұрын
@@RemixerUltimate no the game frame rate was and still is a rollercoaster on the base ps4.
@one_up907
@one_up907 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think brute forcing to 4k and raytracing are a waste of power that can be used elsewhere maybe in a few more years they'll be standard and easier to do.
@sorandkairi00
@sorandkairi00 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to play Ghost of Tsushima on the PS5.
@dis6wood
@dis6wood 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Haven’t played it yet but I think we are in for a treat with 60fps
@Dryvlyne
@Dryvlyne 4 жыл бұрын
@@dis6wood it's really great! My GOTY
@Blintedhaa
@Blintedhaa 4 жыл бұрын
Saved it for PS5 aswell, cant wait!
@jeuvideoiihizq
@jeuvideoiihizq 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just cleared my external SSD of most games, minus Modern Warfare, to wait and start GOT/Dark Souls Trilogy/Bloodbourne/Replay Days Gone, TLOU Remastered/2, and other backlog and replays with the boost modes.
@agentsmith6161
@agentsmith6161 4 жыл бұрын
@@dis6wood Same here.
@00kayem
@00kayem 4 жыл бұрын
AC Valhalla tech review + XSX/PS5 comparison when? :)
@chasethechosenone8478
@chasethechosenone8478 4 жыл бұрын
They will look and run the exact same kinda pointless
@corey2232
@corey2232 4 жыл бұрын
@@chasethechosenone8478 Nearly all multiplat games look & run similarly, but there's always differences.
@ihebmhamdi3451
@ihebmhamdi3451 4 жыл бұрын
And PC comparison aswell.
@FoolishPlays
@FoolishPlays 4 жыл бұрын
@@chasethechosenone8478 how they handle raytracing and hdr will be diffrent. As of now ps5 will be running it at an upscaled resolution.
@chasethechosenone8478
@chasethechosenone8478 4 жыл бұрын
@@FoolishPlays tf are you talking about it’s native 4K🤣 both consoles will do native 4K 30 with raytracing lol idk where you are coming up with that narrative
@redking8585
@redking8585 4 жыл бұрын
You guys now: "meh framerate is not there" You guys in 3 years on the PS5 Pro: "I''m so glad they released the game like this so we can test performance improvements"
@lum26akua28
@lum26akua28 4 жыл бұрын
This is a PS4 game that ran at 60fps. No excuse.
@kylegarrett2429
@kylegarrett2429 4 жыл бұрын
Or you could have just played on PC since launch for a (still) better experience. No excuse.
@Rationalific
@Rationalific 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing is that this should have been an option, but ANOTHER option should have been 4K 60 with no drops. Future-proof, but also present-proof. Best of both worlds.
@OilFreeFeathers
@OilFreeFeathers 4 жыл бұрын
You're talking about Capcom here. They've been running a clown show ever since the Clover breakup in 2006, and still haven't gotten their act together. DMC5 is no exception, which was already obvious since it's barely a full game already.
@lum26akua28
@lum26akua28 4 жыл бұрын
@@OilFreeFeathers Now wait a diddly minute. I think that they have been improving as of late, not amazing, but improving. Monster Hunter World, Resident Evil 2 Remake and DMCV pointed to that in my opinion. None of these are excellent games, but they're much better than what they used to do.
@ambrogaming6892
@ambrogaming6892 4 жыл бұрын
As a PC main gamer, the absolute best part about this new generation of consoles is giving all the gamers the OPTIONS to play in whichever mode they find preferable. Some gamers will want the ray tracing mode and will take the hit to performance, others want the higher FPS with no ray tracing. There is no right or wrong, its a matter of preference. I'm so happy console games/developers are finally giving gamers a choice.
@tomsantos9448
@tomsantos9448 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more
@misiopuchatek152
@misiopuchatek152 4 жыл бұрын
And this is what I am saying from the beginning. RT performance mode -1080p+RT+60fps. Thank you veeeery much!
@iecoie
@iecoie 4 жыл бұрын
Native 1080p with Ultra details (including RT) - best option - hopefully in many titles to come.
@GeorgeKLSA
@GeorgeKLSA 4 жыл бұрын
Sony is very silent about 1080p
@manakmishra
@manakmishra 4 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeKLSA because its not advertisable
@ardasevmis7583
@ardasevmis7583 4 жыл бұрын
@@manakmishra Microsoft literally does the same thing...
@Kyrious
@Kyrious 4 жыл бұрын
Watching these people play DMC5 hurts my soul
@BlackWestCoast
@BlackWestCoast 3 жыл бұрын
Why? Are they trash?
@Kyrious
@Kyrious 3 жыл бұрын
Trash almost seems like a compliment compared to what they’re doing.
@BlackWestCoast
@BlackWestCoast 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kyrious 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@james-nf5ck
@james-nf5ck 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kyrious yeah dude i suck at nero but im good as dante
@montygill2835
@montygill2835 4 жыл бұрын
Nice look at Devil May Cry 5 on PS5, Tom, Alex, John 👍
@RiccardoBelletti
@RiccardoBelletti 2 ай бұрын
10:48 was prophetic: I can confirm PS5 Pro handles perfectly the RT Graphics mode 😂
2 жыл бұрын
VRR is feasible now on PS5 (summer 2022), let's see if they patch out the game.
@lowismylesful
@lowismylesful 4 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, that 120 FPS issues has been fixed. Capcom Recently just released a patch for it.
@MarioManTV
@MarioManTV 4 жыл бұрын
This game did an incredible job hitting its performance target on most platforms last gen. It's a disappointment to see fundamental performance selections chosen so poorly this time around. It feels like they put a different, less qualified team, on the upgrade work. Hopefully these are just part of next-gen growing pains, and they can sort everything out shortly.
@jeffstables110
@jeffstables110 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna grab me some snacks and enjoys this... loving the coverage 👊🏻
@albertotr1
@albertotr1 4 жыл бұрын
The DF boys are smelting away - next gen never felt so good.
@ThePokestopPapi
@ThePokestopPapi 4 жыл бұрын
🍿
@allbecomesone3969
@allbecomesone3969 2 жыл бұрын
Now that VRR is supported on PS5, I would love to see this revisited.
@HiCZoK
@HiCZoK Жыл бұрын
Should be interesting now. We have vrr and we can toggle 120hz off if needed in ps5 system settings. I am getting it. I love dmc3 and 4 but I never played 5. I could get it on pc but ps5 special edition seems like a good complete package
@OilFreeFeathers
@OilFreeFeathers Жыл бұрын
@@HiCZoK While it is the most complete version, the puddles showing off the reflections are only in an early level. The rest of the game's stages are far more bland, making it more of an experimental addition than anything, and an excuse to tweak some visuals. The only thing special here is the legendary dark knight and turbo modes that DF neglected to show off, which PC has mods for as well.
@HiCZoK
@HiCZoK Жыл бұрын
@@OilFreeFeathers I also got it for ps5. I don’t see a reason to get pc version. Both are 120fps, I don’t have to mod this one and I get the disc. It was 20$ new so whatever
@helloguy8934
@helloguy8934 Жыл бұрын
​@@HiCZoKDid you watch the video? The ps5 doesn't stick to 120.
@HiCZoK
@HiCZoK Жыл бұрын
yeah I've seen it. I've bought it on ps5 anyway. Still yet to play it @@helloguy8934
@3P3KVisuals
@3P3KVisuals 3 жыл бұрын
The main game changer in the special edition is TURBO mode. 120fps TURBO mode is insane. After jumping back n fourth for the past 3 months between 4k60, and 1080p120fps... my conclusion is 120fps is noticeable but only in fast moving scenes examples...Air combos when bunch of enemies on screen in DMC V, 1v1 Battle on Cold War smgs shottys up close or Dirt 5 when all the cars are close together moving at a high speed. So 120fps and RTx is nice but the TURBO mode and big bro VERGIL are the only reasons your paying the extra money. *Turbo Mode in 4k 60 is nice as well, runs very smooth*
@Jadty
@Jadty 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon's Dogma II is gonna be incredible with this tech. I'm also thinking that Capcom could very well choose the RE Engine for SF VI, or maybe even UE5. We can only wait now.
@bryanmartinez4521
@bryanmartinez4521 4 жыл бұрын
Dude imagine with the dualsense haptics thatd be an insane experience
@Cacao613
@Cacao613 4 жыл бұрын
Wait is a sequel confirmed?
@slymeking198
@slymeking198 4 жыл бұрын
For now we can only dream for a sequel 😭🤧
@PolyverseCube
@PolyverseCube 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cacao613 Hideaki Itsuno was given the choice to direct either DMC 5 or Dragon's Dogma 2. So it's safe to assume that now that DMC is done they might be working on DD2.
@Cacao613
@Cacao613 4 жыл бұрын
@@PolyverseCube I will do anything for a sequel, even buy a PS5 if I have to.
@DragonoftheDarknessFlame
@DragonoftheDarknessFlame 4 жыл бұрын
games I want to see tested excluding the obvious 1st party titles I want to see Nier Automata NiOh&NiOh2 Kingdom Hearts 3 Infamous SS Genshin Impact Battlefield 4 Yakuza series Bioshock trilogy Dead by Daylight Warframe DmC the alternate universe one FFXIV Pillars of Eternity Tales of Berseria
@leonel9110
@leonel9110 4 жыл бұрын
Yessss Nioh is a big one for me
@cheek077
@cheek077 4 жыл бұрын
Just to see Digital Foundry do ANY kind of analysis of Dead by Daylight would be great.
@harubinj
@harubinj 4 жыл бұрын
Im on my way home with my series x right now. Im so excited to see if either console can brute force their way through nier automatas terrible frame pacing issues
@DragonoftheDarknessFlame
@DragonoftheDarknessFlame 4 жыл бұрын
@Fausto because I like the music level design and gameplay . Unlike you dudes who still rage over it I can just play games for the gameplay
@manakmishra
@manakmishra 4 жыл бұрын
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame have you played persona 5?
@icefalcon2243
@icefalcon2243 4 жыл бұрын
I know this was to show the graphic comparison but you should get some more combos going - it will be even more visually impressive ! Game looks great on PS5
@Eliteshade
@Eliteshade 4 жыл бұрын
120hz on PS5 is such a gamechanger, im sure sony will give out VRR support after launch
@MILSIM530
@MILSIM530 4 жыл бұрын
ask SONY this questions on a video: 1. Why ps5 loads slower than XSX on most bc games even it has 2x faster ssd? 2. Why ps5 does not support native 1440p for PC monitors support? 3. Why ps5 does not support extrnal drive? 4. Why ps5 does not support VRR, LFC, Freesync Or Gsync etc etc... 5. Why ps5 does not support Auto HDR 6. Why ps5 does not have Quick resume 7. why ps5 does have the nveme disable at lunch you will have tops only 5 games installed no way to upgrade 8. why ps5 does not have full mouse and keyboard support 9. why ps5 does not have hdmi 2.1 full support only has 4K@120 & 8K@30 nothing else LMAO I think I got everything?.. Did I miss anything guys? yes I forgot missing 3D audio at launch!!
@Eliteshade
@Eliteshade 4 жыл бұрын
@@MILSIM530 3D audio is available for headsets lol what a noob, its not available for hometheatres or external speakers at launch. Auto HDR is a feature used to give HDR support for backwards compatible games, PS5 does support HDR10, all these "missing" features you've mentioned can be put forth into the system from updates by the end of this year, even the ps4 launch system wasnt what it is today. It develops over time.
@originalityisdead.9513
@originalityisdead.9513 2 жыл бұрын
This was 2 years ago. Where has the time gone.
@AndyKazama2
@AndyKazama2 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon they used this as a test of the RE Engine on next gen to assist with the development of RE VIII Edit: If Sony at 1440p native to the console, there is a lot CAPCOM could do to stabilise some of these frame rates
@DeToxCommunity
@DeToxCommunity 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, as an LG B7 owner, that 120hz problem is a real deal breaker for me. Gonna hold off until that's fixed.
@superbadisfunny
@superbadisfunny 4 жыл бұрын
1080p at 144hz. Is where I'm chilling at for the next few years
@stunts1012
@stunts1012 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so. I think moving forward, for the most demanding games with rtx, we will play at 4K 30( which is what I want) and have a 1080p 60 FPS mode with rtx. And then for the first person shooters, we will play those at 4K at 60 FPS.
@jinq4136
@jinq4136 4 жыл бұрын
@@stunts1012 30fps should be left in the past, If this generation continues a trend of 4k 30 it would be a bit of a shame.
@Jdogg4089
@Jdogg4089 4 жыл бұрын
@@jinq4136 30fps is the trend at least for sony first party. With 60fps modes being a secondary option. Maybe that'll change in the future but that is where we currently stand. 30fps is the standard once more. I really hope xbox frame rate doubling tech proves effective.
@Dev-nr4dw
@Dev-nr4dw 4 жыл бұрын
@@stunts1012 1440p or 4k image reconstruction at 60 fps with ray tracing should be the standard not 4k 30 fps.
@jinq4136
@jinq4136 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jdogg4089 Yeah, since it's a new generation 60fps, should be becoming the standard at least. Time will tell
@mattdavisgames
@mattdavisgames 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, I love how DF knows the devs will see the video, they summarise the issues like they're putting in a patch order
@lukelmaooooo
@lukelmaooooo Жыл бұрын
no upgrade discount and no dlc carryover was a huge slap in the face, especially considering that this is basically just a minor visual upgrade with a couple extra bells and whistles.
@daamazinfatb0y752
@daamazinfatb0y752 Жыл бұрын
Have they added in a 60fps cap by now? Also since PS5 now has it, does VRR help in the high frame rate mode?
@jondough3339
@jondough3339 Жыл бұрын
With vrr high frame rate mode should be a lot smoother
@CallumSk8er
@CallumSk8er 4 жыл бұрын
no VRR was a huge mistake by sony
@GULLYGLEN
@GULLYGLEN 4 жыл бұрын
It can always be patched in, Sony is known for delaying certain things and patched in at certain dates
@GULLYGLEN
@GULLYGLEN 4 жыл бұрын
Also remember mark cerney said it has it. So just like how the ray tracing on xbox is delayed vrr must be delayed on ps5 too
@jamesw884
@jamesw884 4 жыл бұрын
@@GULLYGLEN cerny never said ps5 has vrr it was tyhe fanboys that said it was there
@Astralmess
@Astralmess 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesw884 VRR is included in the specs that Cerny revealed in March. This is even included in Sony's official pages. VRR will be patched in release window.
@pvvbb1480
@pvvbb1480 4 жыл бұрын
ps5 supports vrr dickhead, but a patch must roll out
@SigganGaming
@SigganGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I've always been a person that heartily agrees that performance is better than resolution. And this video just backs that up. The feel of the gameplay and the responsiveness always takes higher priority for me.
@die4ever2005
@die4ever2005 4 жыл бұрын
what happens to the reflection of the light at 6:18? the light inside the reflection turns off but the light is still on, and then it turns back on at 6:22
@nileredsexperiment834
@nileredsexperiment834 Жыл бұрын
PS5 now has VRR. Are u guys gonna redo this?
@Zenzuu
@Zenzuu 4 жыл бұрын
Picking up my PS5 tomorrow morning! Only one more night to go. 🔥🔥 It's been a while since I'm this excited.
@domzzcardzz7985
@domzzcardzz7985 4 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow? Getting it early
@arreca09
@arreca09 4 жыл бұрын
F
@greenfoam
@greenfoam 4 жыл бұрын
@@domzzcardzz7985 Nope, everyone in Australia is getting them in 24 hours, New Zealand even before that. Currently it's morning of the 11th.
@domzzcardzz7985
@domzzcardzz7985 4 жыл бұрын
@@greenfoam oh yeah🤦😂 I forgot there's different timezones lmao
@zerosolis6664
@zerosolis6664 4 жыл бұрын
Leave it to DF to be astonishingly educational and informative, and always making sure to point out when its on the developer and NOT the power of the console, for how a game runs in different modes/with different settings. I don't know how I wasn't subbed to you guys before! Thank you for all the next gen coverage!
@evilformerlys4704
@evilformerlys4704 4 жыл бұрын
Stop brown-nosing, no one going to hire you 🙄😒.
@larkinpetrelles7710
@larkinpetrelles7710 4 жыл бұрын
@@evilformerlys4704 he’s not brown nosing lol it’s just an analysis of his video and what he liked about it. Every mf on KZbin got some shit to say.
@Cofcos
@Cofcos 4 жыл бұрын
At the end of the video they mention it can't and won't be a problem when they review it on Xbox because on Xbox you can select the output refresh rate on the console... In other words: this is the sort of thing that should probably not be left up to developers, these days. Hopefully, Sony will add such an option sooner than later.
@Alex_Logan22
@Alex_Logan22 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cofcos Yea, plus Xbox has VRR to smooth it out to boot. Both of these features can be patched into PS5, but devs should also be aware of the hardware and displays people are playing on, cause its an easy fix on their end.
@klipseracer
@klipseracer 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't a technical issue with the game because if the PS5 was more powerful it wouldn't any of these issues. If anything, they didn't neuter the game enough to match the PS5's capability. If the PS5 had VRR this wouldn't be an issue as well. This is also a problem with their super picky standards, because if they weren't ultra picky they wouldn't have a job for people to fight and bicker over the smallest details that ultimately don't matter very much.
@jaglemans6778
@jaglemans6778 4 жыл бұрын
The only DMC I’ve ever played was a magazine demo disc back in the PS1 (or maybe it was PS2) days! This looks really good. Very stylish with amazing music.
@malikgod
@malikgod 2 жыл бұрын
It was PS2, had the demo disc also
@mrchiledonut
@mrchiledonut 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am awaiting your guys' face-offs for the new generation of games. It'll be a while before I pick up one of the new consoles, but I hope by then we see a handful of different versions compared. I want to know which one to get.
@radry100
@radry100 4 жыл бұрын
PS5 videos NEED to be shown in HDR to do them justice.
@MiKUltra
@MiKUltra 4 жыл бұрын
Damn RT really is demanding af. I wonder how Series X compares with those extra compute units.
@chasethechosenone8478
@chasethechosenone8478 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter that the series x has more cus it depends what frequency they are running at the higher the frequency the more performance the frequency is kinda on the low end
@XxSupernatural21xX
@XxSupernatural21xX 4 жыл бұрын
I think Series X has a bit better RT, but that's basically it
@chasethechosenone8478
@chasethechosenone8478 4 жыл бұрын
@@XxSupernatural21xX how would you know if we haven’t seen it yet
@Trunchisholm
@Trunchisholm 4 жыл бұрын
@@chasethechosenone8478 Wrong. RT performance also scales with CUs in AMD GPUs, not just with frequency.
@XxSupernatural21xX
@XxSupernatural21xX 4 жыл бұрын
@@chasethechosenone8478 I'm just going off of numbers on paper. I could be wrong, but that's what I'm thinking
@santhoshsridhar5887
@santhoshsridhar5887 4 жыл бұрын
See, this is why native 4k sucks. Reconstructed 4k to lock at 60fps is realistic and much better than naitve 4k. The image quality loss is negligible and you get the smooth 60fps experience. Both gears 5 and spiderman miles morales run at 1728p to really lock to that 60fps while still delivering maximum visual fidelity.
@manakmishra
@manakmishra 4 жыл бұрын
@Prizzy spiderman doesn't have a PC release. The textures in both of them are hardly any different when it comes to detail and resolution
@jamesmiley6146
@jamesmiley6146 4 жыл бұрын
@Prizzy gears doesn't have RT
@arnabsaha8761
@arnabsaha8761 4 жыл бұрын
@Prizzy you can check the spiderman review,they bumped up the details,skin rendering,cloth quality,lighting and so much more.This is an upgrade in my books
@azzaprime7257
@azzaprime7257 4 жыл бұрын
Native will always look better, especially when taking in game screen shots.
@joanseb
@joanseb 4 жыл бұрын
@Prizzy comparing a game without RT and not open world is a joke.
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t even point out frame drops without the graph pointing them out.
@gu3z185
@gu3z185 3 жыл бұрын
Playing a game is different from watching a game when it comes to noticing frame drops. I'm sure you've heard it a million times, but it's true.
@suhas-qw4nu
@suhas-qw4nu Жыл бұрын
Wait it's been almost 3 years I see there's a patch now With 60fps lock They have also added auto transition for loading screen But which mode actually delivers locked 60 ?
@shakesquire84
@shakesquire84 2 жыл бұрын
Tom reads the word "Qliphoth." Ah, yes Olipoth.
@gamingwithdummies3960
@gamingwithdummies3960 4 жыл бұрын
You guys didn’t talk about the 3D audio?
@DarthZackTheFirstI
@DarthZackTheFirstI 4 жыл бұрын
its a marketing joke :p
@stiliniurkar
@stiliniurkar 4 жыл бұрын
3D is pretty much marketing BS, you either have some headphones with backstage or a 5.1/7.1 surround system
@jimmieweathers
@jimmieweathers 4 жыл бұрын
@@stiliniurkar definitely not marketing bs. I watched a video comparing AC Valhalla PS5/Series X versions and the audio was definitely better on playstation's side. It's not a game changer like the dualsense controller but it's a nice little addition to add a little extra immersion
@salemsaleh9577
@salemsaleh9577 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmieweathers How could you know the the difference from a KZbin video? You'd really have to try both yourself with the same headset to compare them.
@jimmieweathers
@jimmieweathers 4 жыл бұрын
@@salemsaleh9577 Lol you can hear the 3d audio in the Demon's Souls state of play when the boulder rolls down the staircase. You can hear it in the Unreal Engine 5 demo and it can be heard in a few clips from the Game Informer's Spiderman Miles Morales coverage. You don't need to have your headphones attached to the PS5 to hear it. It's a hardware feature but it's not hardware reliant in the sense that you need the PS5 in front of you to experience it
@CaptToilet
@CaptToilet 4 жыл бұрын
Patch in Ray tracing for RE2 and RE3 remake. The SSR is atrocious
@james-nf5ck
@james-nf5ck 3 жыл бұрын
we probably wont notice the rtx cuz were running from zombies
@Ben256MB
@Ben256MB 4 жыл бұрын
RDNA 2 is such an amwesome GPU . AMD has done very well securing both Sony and Microsoft . 120fps is the dream come true for console games . At less they have a feel of PC gaming at over 60fps + . I believe AMD card will do very well at RT .
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 жыл бұрын
RDNA2 isn't a GPU. It's an architecture.
@Ben256MB
@Ben256MB 4 жыл бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M I know smart,ass ! I just don't know the name of the GPU in the PS5 and Xbox series X
@kiisseli1337
@kiisseli1337 4 жыл бұрын
Only Series X has RDNA 2, PS5 is RDNA 1.5. And PS5 RT capability is very limited.
@Kekoapono
@Kekoapono 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing like KZbin's 144p on 1080p60 to show off how beautiful this all looks.
@stealthriot
@stealthriot 4 жыл бұрын
@6:18 I am curious what is going on with that light in the reflection... looks like it is flashing on and off but the actual light above is always on. Again at 6:23.
@TheLucasbuck
@TheLucasbuck 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really enjoy the three way banter between professionals. It looks like the best version to plat DmC5 on PS5 is to play the original PS4 version on PS5 and I'm sure it'll run super smooth. This game looks like it'll be a great comparison video against the Series X.
@massa28
@massa28 4 жыл бұрын
3 years later, PS5 vs PS5 Pro can we hit constant 120fps in DMC5?
@ohwow2074
@ohwow2074 4 жыл бұрын
4 years later
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope upgraded versions of the current systems dont become a thing
@ohwow2074
@ohwow2074 4 жыл бұрын
@@realamericannegro977 it's impossible. Just be sure that both Sony and MS have already started the development of their mid gen consoles by now. It's a certain thing that will happen.
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohwow2074 After seeing how PS5 made the PS4 Pro useless I think it's a waste of time. Although I wish they put out superior versions of their old consoles that's hard to emulate and do what PS5 does with PS4 games and do more such as AA and upscaling textures or smoothing them out.
@ohwow2074
@ohwow2074 4 жыл бұрын
@@realamericannegro977 I agree. They should release a model of PS5 which has dedicated hardware to run PS1 and PS2 and PS3 games natively!!! But the release of a Pro model is the new trend nowadays. It's also a good thing because it prolongs the life of a generation.
@tomsantos9448
@tomsantos9448 4 жыл бұрын
They're so focused on the resolution when in this kind of game the most important thing is the frame rate during the gameplay. To be fair it doesn't seem like this game is their bag (dude literally mashed attack and streak over and over again) but seriously "the reflections seem occasionally blocky"? In terms of framerate it's outclassing Spider-Man Miles Morales and just about every other lauch title and it's just complaint after complaint about something you won't notice during normal gameplay
@ThanosDidTheRightThing
@ThanosDidTheRightThing 4 жыл бұрын
Spider man has a 4k30 and a 4k60 mode. It’s too graphically impressive to have a 120 FPS mode.
@tomsantos9448
@tomsantos9448 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThanosDidTheRightThing that's what I'm saying tho, in terms of framerate DMC is putting out stuff that others aren't and it's a rerelease of a last Gen game. While graphically SM is more impressive, most people who play DMC will agree that it doesn't matter since responsive controls are the most important thing in a high difficulty game like DMC. I love both games, I'm just saying they're getting hung up on a superfluous addition like RT when the real bonus is the fps
@ThanosDidTheRightThing
@ThanosDidTheRightThing 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomsantos9448 I agree with you there. Why add ray tracing to a last gen title ?
@tomsantos9448
@tomsantos9448 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThanosDidTheRightThing maybe it was a test just to see if they could do it. Hopefully moving forward for games like Resident Evil 8 the RE engine will have better performance with Raytracing now that they tested it with DMCV
@funbrute31
@funbrute31 4 жыл бұрын
Both Spiderman games are last gen games too, and others like Forbiden West Will also be. Whats the point
@MrProfizmus
@MrProfizmus 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they employ variable rate shading, and if not, if it'd help them hit those target framerates some. I'd wager it could definitely save both the regular mode's cutscenes and the HFR mode.
@LeesChannel
@LeesChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of curious that on the launch day of the Xbox Series X DF releases footage of the PS5 version of a game that's on Series X
@greenfoam
@greenfoam 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anything about the Xbox launch and it was a day ago here, nothing on the news, no pictures of line ups on the net.. Just came and went un noticed.
@Crimsongz
@Crimsongz 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite franchise 🔥
@SlayerSeraph
@SlayerSeraph 4 жыл бұрын
Same, absolutely crazy about it!
@SolidMGSnake
@SolidMGSnake 4 жыл бұрын
So if PS5 doesn't have VRR out the gate, you'll get screen tearing and judder with high frame rates up to 120fps. Is that correct?
@bingobongo1615
@bingobongo1615 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. It is garbage and only tolerable since many TVs are still 60fps
@steven-i6j
@steven-i6j 4 жыл бұрын
good question alot of ppl are going on about vrr but iv seen a live play through of vergil dmc 5 performance mode without the graph and didnt notice anything wrong with the game then. with the ray tracing i didnt even notice it was on it was just a smother dmc game.
@FFRyFFONLYONPS
@FFRyFFONLYONPS 4 жыл бұрын
i saw tearing on series x games and have vrr XD
@steven-i6j
@steven-i6j 4 жыл бұрын
@@FFRyFFONLYONPS wow really! heard nothing but good things about the series x with it having full rdna.lmao.
@levinunezmarte6667
@levinunezmarte6667 4 жыл бұрын
Even at 60 fps. See the case of Assassin's Creed Valhalla.
@OwtDaftUK
@OwtDaftUK 4 жыл бұрын
I don't notice frame rates as much generally, but still concerning if it does stand out a lot as it doesn't sound like the game is much of an upgrade over the Pro version.
@TubeYouDSilvy
@TubeYouDSilvy 4 жыл бұрын
Oh you notice.
@ArreatPLvro
@ArreatPLvro 4 жыл бұрын
@10:05 property reflects? Then why windows in the background of balloons have weird angle based pop up reflections?
@MerryBlind
@MerryBlind 4 жыл бұрын
I literally searched for this DF video an hour ago. I was waiting for this lol.
@paulolameiras861
@paulolameiras861 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to have a performance mode WITH ray tracing! Miles Morales, i'm looking at you.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Miles was 120fps instead.
@TubeYouDSilvy
@TubeYouDSilvy 4 жыл бұрын
“next gen” ray tracing is hilarious. the hardware obviously cannot “afford” RT while also keeping up respectable performance. It’s like that friend we all have who is living well above their means and you know it’s not going to end well.
@thenoobperspective7588
@thenoobperspective7588 4 жыл бұрын
It can easily afford RT at a 30fps budget, Spider-Man’s raytracing mode looks amazing, and that’s a launch title. In fact, the only reason this is an issue in DMC 5 is the lack of framerate cap. 1080p60 with maxed out graphics and raytracing sounds pretty good.
@ninjascroll1017
@ninjascroll1017 4 жыл бұрын
Its not worth it to me. Ive seen high end tracing on pc with hits to performance and all i can think is turn that **** off. Highest stable framerates at the best graphics settings is the way imo. At least we should have options for these
@TubeYouDSilvy
@TubeYouDSilvy 4 жыл бұрын
@@thenoobperspective7588 I’m glad (no sarcasm) you like it. The RT SM implements is like fractional RT - basically just to _say_ they incorporate RT. In my view it’s more marketing than anything - and certainly not worth the hit. I’d MUCH rather have 60 fps or 80-120fps than 30fps plus marginal RT. I mean the hardware is just not remotely strong enough. perhaps once they start incorporating variable-rate + upsampling tech, etc they may be able to do more. But right now it just seems like they are doing it to say they’re doing it.
@thenoobperspective7588
@thenoobperspective7588 4 жыл бұрын
@@TubeYouDSilvy Most people who have played the game, and even DF themselves, completely disagree. In fact the Spider-Man implementation is just as comprehensive as anything Control has in terms of reflections on PC, there’s nothing fractional about it. And the great thing about you not liking it and wanting higher framerates is that they literally Give you that option lol. So I don’t understand why you are even complaining about it at all. Just pretend they never added RT and play the 4K60 mode
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly in this video I could barely tell a difference between the RT on and off. If they didn't labeled them I never would have noticed.
@Kamina-brah
@Kamina-brah 4 жыл бұрын
HighRes+60FPS > Raytracing
@Kamrankhan23333
@Kamrankhan23333 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr , ray tracing is bullshit
@weaverquest
@weaverquest 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kamrankhan23333 In this game perhaps but Spider-Man MM looks amazing with RT.
@JeffreyThrash
@JeffreyThrash 4 жыл бұрын
Ray tracing is fascinating to study as a 3D hobbyist, but the technology just isn’t ready yet. Also, all it really does at the moment for the average layman is create SLIGHTLY more convincing reflections, shadows, and maybe indirect lighting, a team of good 3D artists would still be able to fake all of these really well. That, and apparently make the graphics menus in console games almost as complicated as their PC version counterparts, I mean holy moley, I’m so glad I haven’t upgraded to a 4K display, yet!
@Ahov
@Ahov 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeffreyThrash What on earth are you talking about? It wasn't ready with the RTX 2000 series launch, but now we have DLSS 2.0 and in many cases it can look even *better* than native resolution, and with great performance. Granted, that's for PC only at the moment, but to say ray tracing just doesn't have the technology yet is just false. It can look amazing and run with high performance with DLSS 2.0. AMD is also crafting their own version of it for consoles.
@thekrustaceox5181
@thekrustaceox5181 4 жыл бұрын
and locked 60 fps > jumpy 80~90 fps.
@DJ_Dopamine
@DJ_Dopamine 4 жыл бұрын
No quick resume feature. No VRR support. No 1440p support. No SSD expansion support out of the box. I dunno. It's not looking as good as I had hoped. In theory all of these things can be added later with an OS/Firmware update. Not that keen on getting a Series X right now either becasue (as per usual) it has no games... Might just wait a few months and see how things develop for both platforms before dropping that cash.
@CaveMansSHOW
@CaveMansSHOW 4 жыл бұрын
All these things are just a update away... Ps5 for sure
@shadowroxas2086
@shadowroxas2086 4 жыл бұрын
I think the ideal setting would be reconstructed 4k, ray tracing at 60fps. But that's my opinion. If only consoles had some kind of DLSS alternative but reconstruction would be fine since we've seen good implementations from HZD and spiderman.
@jonnyfive5000
@jonnyfive5000 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why I couldn’t get 4K out of the high frame rate mode. My display peeks at 4K 60 so the game changes it to 1080p 120. I like seeing the difference myself and choosing what I like the most. So far I like the game. Music is a little funny but I guess it’s heavily Japanese influenced and voice acting is hit and miss so far. But the gameplay is interesting and getting me back into the series.
@jhnyjoejoe69
@jhnyjoejoe69 2 жыл бұрын
Music is funny? That's the best part. Idk what American garbage you like. Cardio B?
@sweetknight808
@sweetknight808 4 жыл бұрын
John really knows his shit lmao, I rly love that man
@spyro440
@spyro440 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope for raytracing in all PS5 games because you can get 60 fps by deactivating it! :D PS: Come on Sony, where is the promised VRR?
@nemodemolishedgamer7440
@nemodemolishedgamer7440 4 жыл бұрын
Sony Is are just Scammer They Were Selling A PS5 With Black Custom plate *Putted In the Sides of PS5 (Named PS2 theme) and keeping The price Tag Of 750$$ For a console Which Was Costing 500$ With No Custom plates *For just A Black Plates Which Is just Worth For 50$$ Charging People extra 200$ for that Custom Black plate.
@jameskurian6914
@jameskurian6914 4 жыл бұрын
2 weeks, and the video has not finished the vp9 encode? KZbin seems to take a while to process the 4k60 videos, unfortunately.
@Kehaan
@Kehaan 4 жыл бұрын
So with a new LG CX on the way, i am stuck with 1080p? Because the TV is 120hz? I can't turn 120 hz off etc to get 4k?
@jakdakat420
@jakdakat420 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a solution to the same problem for my q9fn. So frustrating, the game is stuck in 1080p
@Higgy506
@Higgy506 4 жыл бұрын
@Kehaan You should be fine as far as 4k output goes because the CX has hdmi 2.1. Just make sure you’re using the hdmi cable that came with the ps5 and that you plug it straight into the tv unless your sound bar/receiver/hdmi switch also have 2.1 (highly unlikely at this point in time with 2.1 being so new)
@AndrewB23
@AndrewB23 4 жыл бұрын
Rt graphics + 120 is butter smooth on cx, I seriously have no what this guy talking about with judder.
@mechiellouw3315
@mechiellouw3315 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the Series S / X review? How long do we have to wait?
@SteddiFLo
@SteddiFLo 4 жыл бұрын
The reason Xbox Series X/S doesn't have ray tracing yet. A later patch
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 4 жыл бұрын
@FreedomAreComing It's a literal software patch...I doubt that could outdo hardware.
@Suavellous
@Suavellous 4 жыл бұрын
The patch is there day one
@SteddiFLo
@SteddiFLo 4 жыл бұрын
@@Suavellous oh so we should see a comparison later or tomorrow but very disappointed in the ps5 version. Mostly Capcom fault but SONY need to get VRR in there fast.
@st3ddyman
@st3ddyman 4 жыл бұрын
You’ll have to do a platform comparison between the Series X and the PS5
@futvnyc
@futvnyc 4 жыл бұрын
Sony fanboy " the diffrence in power between the ps5 and xbox series x is small " xbox said hold my beer.
@RandomGamingMoments925
@RandomGamingMoments925 4 жыл бұрын
@@futvnyc Take your cheque from Spencer and wipe your tears.
@ohwow2074
@ohwow2074 4 жыл бұрын
@@futvnyc we haven't still seen how SX version runs it, have we??!
@ardasevmis7583
@ardasevmis7583 4 жыл бұрын
@@futvnyc LMAO series x will run the same
@V1CT1MIZED
@V1CT1MIZED 4 жыл бұрын
"High frame rate" mode with no VRR is pure garbage.
@AudioPhile
@AudioPhile 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly it really has put a big downer on my excitement for the PS5, 3 of the 4 big screens I have here do 1080p 120hz VRR, my 75" Samsung does 4k 120hz VRR. Screen tearing is balls.
@V1CT1MIZED
@V1CT1MIZED 4 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPhile don't forget the stutter too as vsync is normally on
@hynad81
@hynad81 4 жыл бұрын
Concern trolling
@vertonical
@vertonical 4 жыл бұрын
@FUCK YOU MARK SUCKERBERG AND GOOGLE ASSHOLE Show me link to a video where Xbox does consistent 120 in DMC5:SE.
@V1CT1MIZED
@V1CT1MIZED 4 жыл бұрын
@@hynad81 concerned ignorance
@fuzzypotatoo
@fuzzypotatoo 4 жыл бұрын
wow two days later and its still 1080p60 max
@yoyo-nf1ww
@yoyo-nf1ww 4 жыл бұрын
nice having John and Alex along side the main usual host.
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