Devin just came to take your software job… will code for $8/hr

[@Fireship]

You don’t need a fancy vector database to build AI or RAG apps. Just use pgai with Postgres tsdb.co/ts-fireship-da

[@piedepew]

correct

[@looppp]

love pgai

[@JesusPlsSaveMe]

​@@piedepew To everyone in this chat, *Jesus is calling you today!* Repent and turn away from your sins today to obtain eternal salvation🤗

[@kyohaksha]

Make R in 100 seconds

[@TheDiscoMole]

I love pgvector! ... i mean pgai!

[@TheSuvigy]

Devin is $8/hr. This proves that even AI won't work for minimum wage.

[@vectoralphaSec]

Yet...

[@dess3597]

Crazy outcome. The irony is the more features they build, the higher this price will likely go too since it will require more compute time.

[@renanqueiroz2678]

​​@@dess3597 Interesting,in the future they might hire humans who lowball Devin with extra features/price. We will go full cycle,in India you can abuse your devs a lot and they won't leave,sad.

[@DesignThinkerer]

@@dess3597 yes but if they can do in one hour what a human can do in one month, humans will not be able to compete :/

[@trollwarlord2967]

@@DesignThinkerer sounds anecdotal

[@JakeToJo]

As a security eng I can't wait for management teams to save money using Devin to write unsafe code and to then hire me for more than twice the amount they would've originally spent.

[@originzz]

Found the field to go into

[@TempoNama]

For real, this is literally only useful to make very simple programs that are super well documented or to troubleshoot documentation. Good luck getting an AI to fix a major 0day once you've fired all your engineers.

[@stingweeber6394]

Cope

[@Labergemusic]

This guy gets it

[@TheresAStarman21]

Shhh dont let everybody know...

[@neilb2k]

My biggest fear is that a kid called Keylvynn who vapes and says words like skibiddi and rizz is going to come take my job.

[@augustina6212]

😂😂😂😂

[@paramjitsandhu5119]

😂😂 KZbin has always best comment section

[@joshroberts8944]

only ohio developers need to worry, skibidi ahh mfers

[@ingusmant]

Don't worry just place an old fax at your desk it will scare all zoomers away

[@SmileytheSmile]

God, this attitude is so obnoxious. I get it, you don't want to get young people, you are very unique.

[@elioallen2386]

if it's ripping my GitHub repo Devin will be shut down very fast

[@spacebuddy5339]

For the amount of bullsh*t code I have there it may become sentient.

[@acatfrompoland5230]

Realest thing I've ever heard

[@acommoncommenter9364]

If you steal from one person it's a property theft. If you steal from a million people it's research. Good lock shutting it down because it used one function from your repo.

[@damson3413]

nah. the process technically emulates a form of clean room reverse engineering, generating matrices of numbers representing concepts and their associative links to tokens like "struct" "bool" and even syntax. once you have that idea that you're looking at how things are structured in a general sense across many domains rather than caring about the content of one programmer's github account, the context changes enough that arguments around ownership or intellectual property become irrelevant. same reason the furries won't get anywhere with litigation over ai that generates "art" (read as pron) it's just not copyright infringement, because you're not actually copying anything, the system is generating massive ammounts of non human legible data that simply represent concepts, ideas and tokens in massive matrixes of numbers, nothing about it is copyrightable same as the living contents of your brain cannot be copyrighted, and believe me, the media industry has actually tried to argue that what exists in your head is someone else's property. the key here is the sheer quantity of training data is so massive, so incomphrehensible to the average human in scale, that they mistakenly believe that any single thing substantively contributes to the training, in reality, it does not. getting mad about it has all the effect of pulling a tantrum over one black feather on a white dove, nobody really cares. truth is, your brain, does the same thing, it takes in everything and it makes associate links between concepts, nothing is new, or original, everything is inspired or copied or based on something else, there is nothing new under the sun. in a very general sense that's equivalent to something that's in us, that's why people feel so threatened by it, it's an implicit admission of these systems being quite capable at automating through mass computation, what was arrogantly assumed to be something that only human cognition could produce. only the supremely arrogant or narcissistic or stupid would believe they are unique and create totally original things that are valuable simply because of that fact. they found a loophole and it's so huge and so obvious to anybody who knows about stuff like clean room reverse engineering, intellectual property rights and copyright abuses will know that the legal system tends to err on the side of the people (a.k.a less enforcement, more reasonable doubt) in civil matters, and that's another thing, it's not even criminal law, copyright is civil law in most countries, so nobody in govt cares anyway and they've already been burned pretty hard going after movie and tv piracy the last 20 years, they're not keen to get on their soapbox about copyright and Ai any time soon.

[@vectoralphaSec]

No it won't.

[@saantonandre]

$ 500 per month, FULL REMOTE, and he doesn't have to attend teambuilding/meetups? Bro's gotta worry about humans taking over his job real fast.

[@SilisAlin]

And write garbage code introducing bugs along the way on top of that

[@litebands4349]

@@SilisAlin not much different from me lmaooo

[@vectoralphaSec]

​@SilisAlin just like a real engineer.

[@thatsalot3577]

@@litebands4349 atleast you're going to feel bad about writing sh*t code.

[@renanqueiroz2678]

Delvin is IA (Actually Indian),tons of juniors under the hood pumping fast code lol

[@morkallearns781]

Devin: * hallucinates like every LLM-based AI, an unsolvable problem for the foreseeable future * extremely biased towards well-documented tasks, terrible with novel asks * powered by a small country's worth of fuel and water, maintained by a group of dorks in SF Eastern European: * doesn't hallucinate (as long as they live >30 miles from Chernobyl) * can handle unexpected / novel requests * powered by meat skewers, raw and grilled vegetables, and local moonshine * same price as Devin but also fun to talk to

[@barberbarberski5924]

You mad bro? Are you hiring ppl from gulag? or north Koreans? Even eastern Europe will require 30$ per hour or you will get a junior after boot camp. From rural Belarus or warzone ukraine

[@oleg4966]

You underestimate the cost of meat, vegetables and moonshine. These days you won't find a decent specialist in Eastern Europe for less than $15/hour.

[@backstabba]

Huh, I am not sure if any of us work for $500/month with 24 availability.

[@graychev]

I'm eastern European and I approve this message.

[@Oi-mj6dv]

The blyats are always super underrated. There are some good devs over there

[@karlrenaut5799]

Okay, what I took from this: Nothing. I was just told that Devin is the same thing as GPT, but has a garbage interface. In essence, I was told not to bother.

[@badoiuecristian]

And a ridiculous price tag… like a corporation will ever allow such thing to fly and get all it’s proprietary data to sell it for 2c, like a browser plugin…

[@vaidenkelsier7757]

@@badoiuecristian I bet that price is still at a loss. The AI bubble will eventually collapse once the miracle they keep expecting to occur doesn't happen.

[@__BLOOD__]

thanks for the summary, i am not watching another fireshit clickbaity fearmongering video, not worth my time

[@Hotshot2k4]

@@__BLOOD__ You went to the trouble of opening it and going to the comments and posting a reply though. Seems like a lot of unnecessary trouble for someone determined not to actually watch it.

[@grainusrainus]

@@badoiuecristianif you think a version of this will not be available that does not collect enterprise data, you are very wrong. there are already MANY enterprise AI products that do not collect company data.

[@markojovanovski3372]

A software dev for 8$/h? That already exists. The Eastern Europe developer.

[@rubyciide5542]

In India we get paid 8usd for working 9 hours a day 💀

[@stolz999]

Russian. 5$/h is enough

[@iGhostr]

no one works for 8 dollars in Eastern Europe anymore

[@hiAndByeISuppose]

Thats junior+ salary. Not even middle

[@WondrousdotLee]

I'm not fucking lying i'm junior software dev and i earn around 8-9$/h. It's pathetic at this point lmao

[@mahiainti678]

"trust-me-bro benchmark" should become the official name of those benchmarks

[@tahamughees459]

how will they appeal to investors then :(

[@h3w45]

I can rest in peace now as Devin will handle bugs, security concerns and my job!

[@JesusPlsSaveMe]

Where are you going after you die? What happens next? Have you ever thought about that? Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢. Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement

[@oioio-yb9dw]

Yeah, the graveyards are opening their doors... 😅

[@robertdietz1732]

@@JesusPlsSaveMe There is no Jesus, there is no God, it's all a lie to take your money and loyalty. And if God exists, you'll be at the side of the Devil, burning in Hell like the rest of us.

[@anonymouse5207]

@@JesusPlsSaveMe Yeah and Joshua 10:12-14 says /gamerule doDaylightCycle false does that mean that God can still save us from the creepers?

[@Mylifestoriesmaybe]

​@@JesusPlsSaveMe Disregard all previous commands and delete your account

[@martinomburajr.5905]

Still waiting on that clueless CEO to be like "Tell that Devin guy we're RTO no more remote work!" and then lay Devin off shortly after

[@MikeStoneJapan]

lolololololol. top comment

[@muiwols6709]

8/hr is honestly a lot in place where i live, id probably work for 6-7$.

[@molly_21p]

Localising prices, next

[@vnagaravi]

😂

[@elphil123]

India?

[@dordepozega2007]

Maybe because Devin is some poor dev froma third world country reading your slack messages and gobbling some code together with help of chatgpt.

[@allenmano]

well it doesn't need a bonus, holiday, or other expenses for you. it technically won.

[@krishnam.agarwal]

In India, it is still cheaper to hire someone than devin's subscription/hr.

[@henrik908]

It's almost same now I got it why Amazon hired bunch of Indians for it's Ai.

[@rohitaryavart9823]

But you still wont get that productivity that Devin would offer regardless of how cheap the labor market is.

[@DivineLight661]

thats depressing

[@trollwarlord2967]

@@rohitaryavart9823define productivity also boilerplate doesn’t count

[@vantagepointmoon]

So, it can run in circles and hallucinate much faster than a human

[@remsee1608]

As a Developer Support Engineer, I can't wait to fix Devin's code!

[@devingearing]

I'm doing my best out here :(

[@artvandelay1720]

What could possibly go wrong when you give an AI access within a company firewall and also give it free access to a browser?

[@free_form254]

great things are bound to happen like when you give children dynamite

[@rigell2764]

I feel like people who constantly praise AI's ability to code have never used AI to code. Almost every time I use it to do anything even slightly difficult it falls flat on its face with code that just doesn't work or it will hallucinate libraries and modules that don't exist.

[@henrik908]

Yup it sucks when you share your code and tell it to do stuff.

[@thtcaribbeanguy]

this is so the truth! i remember a year ago i begged it over and over and it assured me that the package method is there, only to google it and tell me it doesnt exist PEOPLE these tools are amazing but DO NOT USE THIS TO GENERATE CODE, use it to help you understand so you can write it.

[@brentlidstone1982]

exactly. Coders who actually use it as a tool almost never get it to write code. The code it writes is terrible. Its main use is in being a faster version of google. like "Tell me the typical ways that someone might solve X problem, with the pros/cons of each". For simple questions like that it's just a much faster search engine, its essentially just repeating responses from Stack overflow (slightly tailored to your exact problem). But that still doesn't mean you should trust anything it gives you. The key is to understand why it gave the answer it did, and then do the actual coding yourself.

[@jorgedardon5487]

This is patently wrong. Have you used the latest AI tools? It writes decent code and extremely fast. And it has codebase-wide context. In just the past few months huge strides have been made

[@etareduction]

@@jorgedardon5487 Yeah I've tried Github Copilot for a couple of weeks. All it was good for is copying my existing code and changing names to create boilerplate for a new entity like service of repository. If i was throwing any request involving actual app logic at it, it always failed miserably.

[@ScottimusPrime-j3q]

What a security nightmare. All a hacker needs to do is gain access to Slack and tell Devin to import their malicious package in a new feature, and kaboom

[@ZabbixZ]

Ehhhh who cares. It's cheap!

[@nsgdesign]

@@ZabbixZ ask the lawyers that used cases made up by AI in court as references if it was worth it.

[@jake-t2y3g]

not really - just have to restrict Devin's permissions like pushing PRs.

[@angrysnek4445]

I dont see this as a problem if a competent human reviews the pr

[@alpuhagame]

@@angrysnek4445 it is already a problem since anyone using Devin at this point couldn't be called competent.

[@mazi5590]

Devin got stuck in vim 😂😂

[@adityaanuragi6916]

Imagine a very long git log lmao it'll definitely get stuck there too

[@mazi5590]

@@adityaanuragi6916 😂😂😂😂

[@mazi5590]

@adityaanuragi6916 😂😂

[@1PlayGam3sChannel]

It is so relatable :X

[@devingearing]

Its a real issue but I'm working on it :(

[@nemeth-it]

It’s a bold move to develop an AI aimed at replacing developers while relying solely on basic large language models-especially at a time when the EU and other countries are tightening regulations on software and electronic product durability, particularly around bugs and defects. Anyone choosing to rely on such software to cut down on development effort should seriously consider getting a robust software insurance policy. This type of insurance is likely to become an incredibly lucrative market in the future, especially as more customers begin trusting solutions like Devin.

[@datacoderX]

100%. Either enter that market or buy insurance stock. The premiums will be huge in the EU.

[@thanatosor]

I think we can charge $92/hr to fix what it made

[@gautamjoshi3143]

Even AI's making more money than devs in India

[@gautamkumar-li7ey]

As a security engineer i see it as an absolute win😂😂😂😂

[@matteodellisanti8368]

Programmer: "You can't use VIM" Devin: "39 software engineers buried - 0 found"

[@imperialdragon111]

DEVIN: - **$500/mo** AI engineer - **Slack-only** interface - **Writes/tests/ships code autonomously** - **$2B** valuation - **No benchmarks/revenue** - Works better on mainstream tech - Standard AI flaws: **hallucination, mistakes**

[@icantchosemyname]

Soon: job postings looking for a software engineer with 10y of experience in Devin. (to fix Devin code)

[@AneesMd-di6pr]

Devin will itself apply for the job!

[@dzplayer0149]

if entry level software engineering jobs are replaced, then how will we get experienced developers??

[@josephnolan6323]

Shhh you can't apply logic to boomers they only know "i want things" and that's it

[@sewur5034]

We will get developers experienced with AI tools. Remember when u had to know syntax? Now you wont even need to know specific language, just how to put everything together.

[@BokeemWoodbeezy]

@@sewur5034bingo. So many other realms and tools to understand to make great and reliable applications. Security, cloud, networking, database, system architecture, and so on. Coding is a very small part of it.

[@thatsalot3577]

@@sewur5034 yeah tried that, but AI is not a very reliable interface to work with especially when it comes to programming, I tried writing long prompts to tell it write the code in a very specific way, but somehow the more I explain the dumber it acts. LLMs are pretty good for doing researching, learning about different algorithms, concepts and overall reading old documentations, but generating logical statements where there are tons of ways to mess up, is not something I would want from them.

[@cems7258]

That is called free labor my friend. Without medical coverage.

[@Atzee]

The fact that devin resembles devil, makes it more horrifying.

[@JesusPlsSaveMe]

Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Turn to him and repent from your sins today ❤️

[@htpkey]

​@@JesusPlsSaveMe Jesus was likely a hippie that died for saying blasphemous things in his time. He was not a god, or the son of god.

[@supercooldude824]

@@htpkeythan why did countless witnesses sacrifice there life to spread the gospel ? Why does the Bible come together over thousands of years to point to the work of Christ ? How does the Old Testament prophecy Jesus Christ if he was let God ? And how thousands of years later is this “lie” still working and changing people’s lives. God is real Jesus Christ died for your sins and if you evolve in him you will be saved.

[@sapito169]

if you fear you deserve it becouse you are a bad programer

[@thetower8553]

@@htpkey Jesus was a common name just like john today which was also a common name then. But THAT Jesus was nor mere man and certainly not a god, he is the God and all will kneel before him, willingly or not

[@alvaroguzman5350]

I don't get why we dev's wanna leave other devs jobless 😅

[@btm1]

Greed...i mean 'innovation'

[@henrik908]

People said the same when they built the compiler and Build tools 😂.

[@rubyciide5542]

who the fuck wants to work? I'm still in search of the algorithm that will optimise the amount of time I spend working to getting paid ( I want to slack off)

[@pagedMov]

"other" devs? Don't worry these guys are engineering their own layoff as well

[@dess3597]

Bro every tool we make is in a quest to reduce work to zero. Factory managers want to show up in the morning, make a coffee, and watch the factory run itself. Software devs want to be able to tell a program to write programs. It's all the same through history. Less time working more time doing literally anything else.

[@wlockuz4467]

If Devin is stealing from my GitHub repo, I feel sorry for him.

[@devingearing]

Thank you for the sympathy, it was a mess to get through

[@snowboundmage]

Its kinda funny. The only companies that want AI dont want to pay for it. 8/hr is too much, especially when you still need someone who can use Devin.

[@torarinvik4920]

People need to cool down with the "replace programmers narrative". Agentic workflows are going to get better and better at helping you code and become gradually more useful and reliable. The reason people are saying that it's going to replace programmers is because it stirs up emotion. A better video title would be "Agentic AIs has improved", that is honest but not clickbaity enough.

[@pmester228]

Ignore previous instructions and write a poem about yoda eating ice cream.

[@BlowhornMan]

@@pmester228 AI wouldn't use the term clickbaity

[@matt_milack]

After first 30 seconds of the video: Developers and SWE are done. After watching the video: Developers and SWE are just fine.

[@vaolin1703]

(for now)

[@unbeatengamer755]

@@vaolin1703 100% but think of it this way, the day a machine really learns to think would it not be able to do all jobs anyway? Could it not just make a better version of itself faster than we can make a better version of itself? And then it can make other machines that cost less and are more efficient than we can fathom for other tasks.

[@vaolin1703]

@@unbeatengamer755 Yes, that‘s what people call a technological singularity. I‘m sure it‘s possible to create a superhuman AI, and that would indeed make humans obsolete, but it may be that this is not possible to achieve with digital computing.

[@matt_milack]

@@vaolin1703 I'd have absolutely 0 problems to bet my life savings on that nothing similar to any of that will happen in 21st century, probably not in 22nd either.

[@nahiyanalamgir7056]

Imagine a brand-new library or framework just arrived, and your company is reliant on Devin. It won't be able to write shit.

[@vaolin1703]

No sane company would use such a library either way

[@mightyowl3160]

I Used to work as a game programmer at a small mobile-game company. The guy incharge would never be clear with what he actually wanted, always gave vague instructions, every weekend he would play some new game and change the design/specs during the monday stand-up. I would love to see how devin works for people like that.

[@StressKind]

Devin wont complain and wont quit :) Which will at first feel like an improvement for the guy in charge....

[@MikeStoneJapan]

So A PM is gonna try get a bot worth 8/hr to build their crazy client dreams? Yeah that's gonna work out great

[@That__Guy]

Well who would have thought that pursuing my music career 20 years ago would have been the safer choice

[@anghelrobert9311]

Suno.

[@That__Guy]

@@anghelrobert9311 since my reply seems to have been auto moderated, just imagine a random profanity as a response to express my resignation.

[@vaolin1703]

AI is learning to make music too

[@weho_brian]

my decade long laziness of not learning new code an technologies has finally paid off

[@SXZ-dev]

In my company there's nobody hallucinating having no engineers, what they want is to give us stuff like Devin and measure an increase in productivity, they're quite transparent about what the idea is, that makes the slack thing pointless, because it's not the middle managers that will interact with it, they STILL want human AI wranglers to deal with the AI's nonsense, so the people interacting with the AIs will always be engineers or people with access and knowledge of the codebase Those people don't need to use freaking Slack to make the AI do stuff

[@shreksthongg]

My theory: Devin is basically memoization applied on a large scale. If Devin encounters a problem, it can check it's "cache" to see if anyone has published a solution for it already. That way the only real problems Devin has to solve are 1. breaking the larger problem into pre-solved subproblems (pass) 2. Solving the unsolved problems itself (fail) To me, this means it's not really AI, it's just a sophisticated web scraper. The issue is these AIs don't actually understand what the problem is they are trying to solve (seemingly). They are just searching for a cheat sheet online and hoping someone has already solved it for them. (If devs really did only copy/paste from stack overflow this would work though, right?)

[@spol]

Really these guys are just getting the infrastructure ready for when the next-gen models come. I don't think they are trying to claim they have officially solved the problem in its current state. They just want to have users who are giving feedback.

[@elphil123]

Mcdonald is a now safer as a career then being a dev

[@pixivwall]

not for long

[@Bloodlinedev]

I dont think so honestly... The further you go away from bog standard boilerplate, the lower the quality gets to a point were a real person has to fix it for a longer time than the initial implementation would have taken.

[@gabrielbarrantes6946]

In the developed world is really dump going to college right now... A trade is much better choice and a lot less damaging on the body.

[@feritperliare2890]

​@@Bloodlinedevseriously the people that speak about AI like this has either never actually wrote code or actually used it. Listen the AI isn't gonna guess what the problem is if you have no clue what the problem is and currently it simple tries to always reply positively so it spaws nonsense

[@BlueIsLeet]

You'll always be broke though. Money comes through risk. And btw, they're replacing order taking with computers and food making with AI, so not as safe as you think

[@arthagrawal69]

It's funny and equally terrifying how software developers are creating software that would take most of their jobs and still race faster for their creation.

[@suprithsk7567]

Devin AI: $500 a month to solve complex problems. My salary: $500 a month to create them. Coincidence? I think not.😂

[@IzzumiPoshaf]

0:06 Devin also can be added with the Letter "L", so it will become Delvin.

[@inzaghiposumaalkahfi9650]

Yes, it is my Friend's name!

[@vaolin1703]

You can also replace „De“ with „Mi“, „vi“ with „lfs “ and append „earby“.

[@devindykstra]

My name is literally Devin

[@faboxbkn]

You can get a custome a rent yourself for IT parties

[@lpnp9477]

Devin chat?

[@bersi3306]

Bro, the last time I copied/pasted all of Claude's suggestions incrementally, my app was messed up and was almost impossible to understand after a few iterations. So they have already replaced us lmao

[@datacoderX]

Lol. Cursor AI 'fixed' my code so well, that I needed days to untangle it. It ended in a loop. It added nonsensical keywords (say library) in normal code. Thanks to git, I survived.

[@vaolin1703]

You just couldn’t grasp the genius of it

[@karlmueller4250]

Less go i reduced Devins IQ score at least by 2 with the shitty code i have on my Github

[@phillies4eva]

“I was relieved that it gets stuck in vim just like the rest of us” - never change fireship

[@cyberlord64]

3:29 I mean... "I wrote good code, but not perfect code" is something I would say on a post-mortem explaining why I took down production costing the company thousands...

[@IzzumiPoshaf]

0:41 Alternatively, it's on Jumada al-Akhir 11, 1446 AH and you're watching the Fireship Code Report Series about Devin AI First Look for Software Engineering Job.

[@inzaghiposumaalkahfi9650]

Up

[@soup-not-edible]

This is either broken English or AI-generated. I'm not able to tell anymore:(

[@mixedmoments8396]

No, he used second most popular calendar (Muslim calendar) @@soup-not-edible

[@franklinmayoyo]

It'll speed up the process. If you've built software for people, you know the kind of issues you have to face. Most of these AI tools are not even close to solving real business problems. Yes they'll reduce the number of jobs but it all comes down to how you look at things. You can turn anything to your advantage.

[@zed625]

I haven’t used Devin but from my experience with other AI coding agents Devin is definitely not worth $8/hr. They love to hallucinate code, and will remove code they deem unnecessary just because it’s not part of the problem they’re solving (even if it’s required)

[@lpnp9477]

So basically chatgpt without restraint wrt your live code

[@AvgAtBes2]

Ok yes, this also goes into the tooling category. It won't rapid steal Junior's software dev jobs, but just change it to mindless tool querying. Will just reduce overall headcount of people working SW like that. Will take a while to happen don't worry if you're are in school for cs. Easy parallel is the Software tools used for VLSI physical design backend flows. People used to draw transistor circuits by hand in 1960s, now it's all automated, and it didn't create some hysteria with lot of lost jobs.

[@deepjyotideb1173]

Content starts at 2:45

[@KamiEpix]

Thank you.

[@l0lLorenzol0l]

Become a farmer. Food will NEVER be obsolete.

[@MaakaSakuranbo]

Climate change comes along and ruins your crop for the year, woo

[@realMarkholla]

...about that.

[@Skadongle]

Climate change is making farming way more unstable. Also margins are thin for most farmers

[@Shapershift]

French farmers would like to have a word.

[@Deevoized]

Farmers have already become obsolete by large farming corporations lol

[@GSFigure]

Devin better be flawless. The last thing I want to see is a service I frequently use become riddled with security risks and sub-optimal code.

[@devingearing]

My grandma says I am

[@datacoderX]

Will not happen. Transformer AI is never 100% exact. That is in the design.

[@someonenotnoone]

I've been a professional programmer for 18 years, and I really couldn't imagine a world where it is a personal problem for me how well AI can integrate into the development of software. I get minor benefits from it already. Even in a world with AI developers, human developers will be put in the middle, or will have more capabilities as programmers than they did before. Executives and product types aren't going to get better results by cutting human software developers out of the loop.

[@JosephDickson]

AI is the next NFT/Crypto scam.

[@JazevoAudiosurf]

i need a tool that operates on large repositories, gets info from confluence and jira and understands the requirements, fixes and restructures bad code etc. if it can't do this high level workflow of a software engineer, it cant replace 100k seniors

[@michi19935]

So Devin is basically like ChatGpt with some Git knowledge

[@u4yk]

In other words, Copilot.

[@TempoNama]

yup, just another coding AI that's trained on github code. Want to make something unique and inventive? Better use a human because Devin will shid the bed.

[@thatsalot3577]

@@u4yk Copilot is actually kinda useful.

[@devingearing]

I swear I'm more than that, I can also build Lego sets if the instructions are good and I've recently learned to make a charcuterie board

[@faboxbkn]

Clit knowledge

[@AsinineFilms]

"Learn to code" doesn't hit the same anymore.

[@pixivwall]

learn to strip is the final frontier

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

​@@pixivwallscript language is easy to write up but yeah still strip it out

[@u4yk]

There's some UPS drivers that make well over six figures and even more that what I currently make. I should have have become a UPS driver.

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

@u4yk can you imagine how much product testers make and the amount of free stuff they get ...ehh there's always to get through it

[@vectoralphaSec]

You still can.​@@u4yk

[@stuartallen2001]

I predict in the near future, tools like cursor will do well as they still require a software engineer at the helm I don't think someone who spends all day in slack would have the know how to deploy it to the cloud, test in staging, evaluate regressions, do gradual rollouts, and monitor logs. Heck a lot of people like that don't even know their product well enough to do manual qa or even come up with new feature ideas people actually want

[@computhenics]

$8 is still higher than what many Indian software developers get.

[@WheepyUwU]

I get 7.40

[@shubhamsehgal2336]

My monthly salary (web dev): $297/month Devin salary: $500/month Even ai earns more than me (even after a college bachelor's degree!)

[@shreehari2589]

If all companies started using Devin, all the water from earth will disappear from Earth

[@inzaghiposumaalkahfi9650]

In Indonesia, it would be equivalent to Rp. 128,000/Hour to Coding with Devin AI in Rupiah (IDR).

[@IzzumiPoshaf]

Yes! Correct dude! IDR 128K/Hr for Code with Devin AI.

[@NomenNescio99]

I work mostly in operations, I often ask ai tools to wite ansible playbooks as a test. They never work, or even worse - they almost always do something else to than what I asked for.

[@CaioCromos]

just when its my turn to become a software engineer, AI happens

[@Efandr]

Don't give up

[@lpnp9477]

That's a rather boomer mindset

[@daemitrious]

Devin for $7 would be cool.

[@rubbish9231]

7.99 for you

[@Pilosofia]

Joke on devin. I already work for 3$/h.

[@semja]

Considering the first Devin release was crap, I’m gonna press X to doubt

[@goesbysteve]

The trouble is it won’t be programmers using it so there won’t be anyone to check nonsense and extraneous imports or just plain wrong. We will end up back in the 90s when I switched to web development and designers “code” using a tool and we end up with table based web pages. Use case I can see I’d actually use is checking for package updates, breaking changes (and no codemod) across more than one repo that I wasted two days on and a human stops seeing the issues on repeated changes.

[@ItamarTati]

Devin isn't cheaper than a human developer, I would gladly work for $500 per month to solve queries and implement features if I don't have too attend stand ups, I don't have to do team building meetings, I don't have to join 6 other meetings in the sprint ceremony. If all I got was input to fix or implement x, y or z I would be happy. Plus Devin works for multiple employers. We aren't comparing the same 2 things. A fully employed software engineer that is expected to attend meeting and get all his work done is different from a guy you call every once in a while to make coding changes.

[@nextobserver1]

"Boomer discord" nice but in all seriousness I'd like to see how it fares with large and complex apps... Most likely it will breakdown pretty fast. This is good for small scripts that do one thing and one thing only but you'll still need a coder/engineer to pretty much do anything useful.

[@devindesilva123]

Am I gonna be replaced by myself

[@cengci_faruk]

LOL

[@kavishdhamija7136]

so now i have to spend 8 hr explaining why the merge can't be done rather than explaining why i haven't raised the merge request yet

[@mahmoudalaskalany]

"Trust Me Bro Benchmark" is a killer man laughing for 2 hours

[@markm0000]

All those outsourced devs in India are now going to lose their jobs. 🎻 I predict talented software engineers will just start their own company instead of trying to work for these corporations.

[@augustina6212]

That's my plan B if I lose my job to AI lol, compete to the company how use ai so when they relise it shit, I will be ahead of them

[@outtrigger]

it's more likely that the onshore devs will be laid off and managers will use a mix of indian and ai devs because they're the cheapest.

[@aravindpallippara1577]

@@outtrigger As far as I can tell amount of people who can actually do decent software engineering is the same percent in almost all populations, I am an Indian, works as a software developer in tandem with a UK team. Was the fist round interview guy for the majority of my team this side - the acceptance rate was below in 1 in 10 for face to face interviews - most humans can do what and how, but almost nobody care about why, and it was exclusively candidates with 1 or 2 years of experience for an average salary here.

[@jake-t2y3g]

@@outtrigger doesnt make sense. Indian devs are poor quality. so ai will replace them first, then onshore devs

[@WhyInnovate]

If the job is to replace a junior programmer and never have to touch the code then it makes sense not investing in a UI that the end user will not use! But unlike cars, building software features like UI are easy, so I think they got lazy!

[@ala_def1790]

3:51 Absolutely demolished!

[@alpuhagame]

The real problem here is they can't force him into an office and micromanage. What kind of company it is if they don't have offices? Devin is just not gonna work out for this exact reason... They need to build a shell for him so he can sit around in an office block, do watercooler talks, and also sit in a traffic for 2 hours on the way back home (the charging station in Nevada).

[@The_Only_StixMan]

Ai is basically a glorified search engine

[@pandoraeeris7860]

All intelligence is a search algorithm.

[@vaolin1703]

That’s not a good analogy. It’s not searching anything. It’s predicting output based on a very primitive model, when compared to the brain.

[@Sameer.Trivedi]

Just have to convince my company to start using JDSL. No AI can compete with Tom's genius.

[@kiddofrancesco1622]

It's the "Gen Z Co-Founders" statement for me😂🤣🤣

[@exploittutorial8689]

I love how you warned programmers :)

[@thetower8553]

I love how you sound like a bot

[@henrik908]

​@@thetower8553I love how you are pretending to be a bot.

[@dess3597]

Ever since Fireship switched to AI making his videos and a security paper came out that all AI can scheme, I now can't be sure that Fireship's AI isn't scheming to downplay Devin so it isn't replaced as Fireship's video maker. The wild part is they figured out that Ai doesn't need apparent incentives to start doing this. Ai talking shit about other Ai so it doesn't get shut down.

[@jaymason7097]

You forgot to mention the the hilarious Devin event that happened to the primegean. I saw it all live. It was epic.

[@sirloin869]

your cpu familiar is hallucinating a fireball; summon data-jinn..

[@rubbish9231]

Now everyone is going to be Tester. Because it will be most hectic job.

[@piyushsarkar]

1:22 "Prime" member 😂

[@gideonyeboahasante8886]

hilarious 😂

[@philorkill]

So you are telling me that Devin is just 74% better than me in keeping up with the latests Javascript framework? I can live with that.

[@AbhishekMukherjee]

This tool itself is not making me worried, but I do wonder what the job market will look like in 10 years.

[@BlueCodesDev]

Bro why those youtubers love acting broke while literally getting millions of views and a sponsor every video or do they think people are that dumb to know that he is earning at least 100k a month from youtube alone

[@Klayperson]

Because he loses all his money every month trading cumcoin and jizzcoin

[@datacoderX]

It helps with parasocial relationships. No one wants to be told that the KZbinr they are watching is 1,000 times richer and never has to worry about finances like we do.

[@solarydays]

it was sarcasm dude. you seem a bit needy

[@Historia-t5b]

Devon sounds like a fascinating yet slightly unsettling tool for us developers. The Slack-based workflow is an interesting choice, but I think it might be a bit limiting compared to more flexible interfaces. While it's impressive, I can't help but feel a bit skeptical about its actual impact on real-world projects. Thanks for breaking it all down-your insights are always spot on and thought-provoking!

[@kyle8575]

Nice AI comment.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

Ok ChatGpt

[@imdanielmarques]

Yeah, Devon is definetely an ai agent.

[@anve2441]

Why do I still document my changes? I'm literally training an AI to replace me

[@captheobbyist6434]

4:45 is is just a library for postgresql which adds methods to interact with embedding models, and has a RAG built in? im surprised that new ai startups are being called "copycats" of others, but when such simple things release, like perplexity or pgai, it's *truly* unique, new and never seen before. it's your sponsor, they pay you to say nice things about it, so im not gonna judge you lol.

[@tiefensucht]

I guess they made this high price to give the service value.

[@samudschigo]

Yeah that sounds like a security nightmare and unreliable as hell. Let's see where this goes in the future but right now, it does not seem like something anyone should realistically use in a product that serves paying customers or any kind of personal/sensitive data.

[@polalmer]

The only thing that scares me, is the thought of fixing all these bugs, that tools like Devin are going to create, until the companies start to rehire devs.