DeWalt Electricians Cable stapler- Worth the money?

[@matthewfortune919]

ive got one its great for loft work or rewires. for the loose cable just tap the first and last staple in with hammer. not too hard just a tap and its tight enough to hold it still. Also to get even spacing with your staples use the magazine as guide by resting it on the previous staple its almost 300mm which is the minimum for a horizontal run for a cable

[@gregkasprzak]

We are doing lots of prefab houses. I have 5 of them in the business, and it is a massive time saver. As said in previous comments, just push the gun harder so you can limit the bounce back. Then there is no way of cable sliding under the staples

[@ariip]

LOL. My 10 year old Halex romex stapler has a depth adjustment dial for a whole range of depth setting for different cables. It took milwaukee and dewalt way too long to come out with this gun. This is why I own all milwaukee otherwise. Dewalt did not think at all when designing this like their other tools. Not sure if the Milwaukee gun has an adjustment either, but many of their other designs are better thought out.

[@michaelnielsen387]

I agree with a lot of the other posters. The whole point of this tool is that it senses the thickness of the cable(s) and doesn't pinch it/them. If you stack two a 2/C or 3/C-#14AWG it still doesn't pinch them so the thickness doesn't really matter. You get to tack all the cables down really fast. If you want a cable lock point then just hit one of the set stables with a hammer until there is enough friction. This is a tool specifically designed for the US market, for the NEC code and Romex cables. The fact that it may even be useful in a foreign country is an unexpected bonus.

[@mockdeano]

Pushing harder on the stapler makes the staple go in further, this thing has made me a fortune when I bashing out those 1st fixes 👍

[@jonathanhasmail]

Also worth noting the test rig was flapping around, a fairer test would be achieved by stapling to a 3x2 screwed to a wall or laying on the floor as you need a bit of resistance when using any nailer or stapler.

[@pichacker]

Just wired a workshop that will have "Dot N Dab" on top of Thermalite bricks. This tool is fantastic as the staples stay in and hold the cables well. I tried using the normal plastic clips and they just fell out at the slightest opportunity. Many comments below describe how to best use the tool, please read them before dismissing it as unsuitable. However it will not work on brick or HARD mortar. I have had reasonable success on soft mortar and cement blocks, penetration is generally ok but may require a hand pressing on the head of the gun. Superb on wood. As has been said many times below, this tool senses the cable size and adjust automatically to drive the staple in the correct depth. Gentle tap with a hammer on the clip if you need it any tighter. No manual adjustment is necessary. However I would wholeheartedly agree that the fixed size of the staples makes this a tool for use where the cables are not on show especially if you suffer from any form of OCD. Clips are metal and as such are fire rated provided what they are stapled to won't suffer from premature collapse. Mine came with two batteries but haven't had it run flat on me yet. It's one of those tools that when you need it it's fantastic but is not an answer for all stapling scenarios.

[@christopherinteriors6521]

I am not an electrician but a kitchen fitter and furniture maker. I really enjoy your channel.

[@iuliucatalingal7925]

Hey i bought this tool about 1 month a go .I only do security Systems and let me tell you that the tool îs great. A few hammers on a staple every 10-15 staples and the cable îs tight , wont move .... The speed îs great.....you get things done very fast. And with the hammer thing....the cable îs tight . Hello from Romania

[@CapitalistHippiePro]

Got one and love it. Also works on soft block and mortar (though not recommended by the manufacturer) Yep there is the issue of the looseness but as stated previously they can be tapped in and still save a bucket load of time.

[@Amped-JDS]

Been using one for couple of years, with a smaller battery its well balanced and fits nicely between studs etc. It is designed to not pinch the cable at all. You see some cable that has been hit hard while being clipped and it causes a hot spot, this was designed with that in mind. If you need to hold the cable tight, just give the first clip a tap with a hammer and its solid and you can pull against it. The other thing not mentioned here is you can actually get 2 2.5s on top of each other in a single clip which works and its great for cat5/6 as you get several under a staple. Like all things it really depends how you use it and what you do as a standard job. I do full house renovations so this gets used for electrics, AV, data, accent cables and more. Box of 500 staples is less than fire clips and I don't alternate between fire clips and regular, I just use all the same so this is cheaper.

[@darylsavage119]

3 cat 6 line up nicely, it'll hold 2x 4mm nicely too on their sides, 6+10 it holds lovely. Not pretty if it's on show for a single 1.5mm like in a garage, but where the cables are hidden the sheer amount of time saved along with them being metal more than makes up for them being slightly untidy

[@callimero2409]

I bought this around 2 years ago,, it’s perfect,, i love it,, specially rewires,,

[@electrician247]

This is the best tool I bought for a long time. We have a few now, used them for must be 2 years I think. Saves loads of time. They dont pinch cables by design. You can press harder to get a tighter grip. The beauty is they wont fire into cables by mistake. Perfect for new build especially. You can also stack them on top of each other under the clip to further save labour. As you say wouldnt want to use them if on show. Will be better when you can get a red version :)

[@effervescence5664]

Fire rated, doesn't pinch the cables and will work on light block work. Love mine, Milwaukee is releasing a 12v one this year too but both are designed in mind with double stacking cables and not being tight so it doesn't cause a hot spot. It's american designed for wooden structures so it's designed to their building codes not ours.

[@callimero2409]

Efixx did a good video on this stapler,, explained well in depth in terms of regulations on cable movements

[@andrewroberts3312]

I've got one and use it loads, also in block. If you push harder when clipping it goes in further

[@SpNick3]

It’s designed not to pin the cables tight to the timber so weather you have 1mm or 10mm cable it will still leave the same amount of gap. If you are that worried about the cable being loose than just tap it in with a hammer, it will still be way faster then clips. Also using the flex volt battery doesn’t really help the weight, a standard 18v 2ah lasts ages.

[@ElectricYeti]

I’m in Canada, been using the Arrow T72 wire stapler for 12 plus years and now the Klein 450-100. Here they have had 2 sizes of staples to cover wide range of electrical cables but smaller ones are more common for 14/2 and 14/3 awg wire. I use more staples to keep everything neat and tidy than are required by code and is still faster than hand staples and a hammer. 300 staples is about $15CAD or £9

[@tonycowles4150]

Perfect tool great for under floors and in loft’s

[@mikeselectricstuff]

Surely they could make clips with the same metal part but a bigger plastic part to grip thinner cables?

[@mrhouse3826]

Thanks Nick for pointing out that it appears to be a useless piece of crap. Easy fix would have been an adjustable 'impact' strength to actually grip the cable

[@Zombney]

3 times the price of normal clips, plus the price of the thing and it's still not holding the cable. Some people are saying hammer in the first and last clip (which isn't going to look tidy for the rest of the cable) but if I'm getting my hammer out as well anyway then I may as well just manually clip the whole lot. Thanks Nick, saved me a fair bit of time, money and aggravation here

[@nicholastomlinson1952]

A company was on dragons den a while ago with a similar design but they were pure plastic staples and the gun he used was smaller

[@TheYazza1]

This cable clipper came from dragons dens. DeWalt bought the rights to it.

[@wattokins]

Genuinely amazing! Totally recommend it

[@KTWElectrical]

Is it any good for the oval conduit? It would be a huge time saver if it is.

[@thomasdadswell858]

If it were a bit more compact and had 1mm and 2.5mm clips it would be way more useful imo 🤷‍♂

[@Mike-jj2qf]

Wonder if the staples would be wide enough for 2x FP200 cables, this would be handy for fire alarm rewires if so.

[@NORULERUST]

Great video nick

[@K459]

I’ve got one, bought it a couple weeks ago, for extensions and things it’s been great so far, but on the other hand as nick said 1mm or 1.5mm I used in a bathroom and the cables just sagged and pulled through

[@supersparks9466]

That’s a bonus for me, only sag if you don’t clip them close enough, you can run other 1mm thought the clips after the 1st one

[@K459]

@@supersparks9466 if you’re running more than one cable yeah it’s all good, I clipped them close but when I get to the end I work back pulling loops which is where it starts to sag and pull back

[@paul79donegan4255]

Mate just hit every other one with a hammer and you get it tight

[@K459]

@@paul79donegan4255 I’ll give that a go next time bud👍🏻

[@johnibbertson2960]

lofts yes anywhere else oh cellars that would have been all for me,oh nick did you make a vid of the large conversion second fix october 2019?

[@Cablesmith]

Someone else mentioned that slack to me once, mine doesn’t do that tho it’s nice and tight.

[@Lineandsinker87]

That’s what she said.

[@Cablesmith]

@@Lineandsinker87 😂😂😂

[@UberAlphaSirus]

That's just because of the suprise!

[@Dirtyharry70585]

FYI Milwaukee has a m12 stapler now

[@MattHutton]

hey man what camera do you use? would love to use something similar for my videos :]

[@markhardacre1]

Can’t see it working well when you have a number of cables to fit in that span on the landing (you know in the UK) even though people don’t see it under floors, I like it neat and tidy..

[@pinacmediauk7453]

DeWalt might be able to make some other staple sizes hopefully it looks gd but unfortunately pretty bouquet so I wonder if they have plans to make a lighter version of it

[@williamholsey]

I don't see how I can barely get the klein romex stapler into many spaces and it's way thinner than this. Old school buildings use shorter spacing short enough where your cam barely place your fist into

[@jakegriffiths193]

Would this work on mortar/brickwork/breezeblock?

[@UberAlphaSirus]

Good idea but it's not ready I reckon, not until there is some kinda standard for the staples and diffeernt sizes. To be honest, The staple industry has needed some inovation on the tools that fire them for years. I have about 8 different air guns from my softfurnishing/custom furniture years and some of them where £300 each, some where £30. I know supply and demand, but why the fk are cordless staplers and nailers £300 plus for a branded one. I was gonna get a makita brad nailer but thats about £300 bare, the tech has been there for years, solinoid and motorised types. They need to work on a process to plastic dip and stack the staples, make them for each cable size and come up with a universal striking hammer. If anyone has used a cable tacker, the staple points can diverg into the cable, even the non divering ones. And regards to clips, if you push the nail thru, they are a piece of piss to get them started, hang your cable in and smash home.

[@tomtillman]

Are the staples stiff enough to not double over if you tap them with a hammer to tighten?

[@s0584333]

No adjustment on the unit to drive staples a bit deeper?

[@whitewolf6730]

Nice video old chap! I have heard that if you push a little harder on that stapler, it will hold it tighter. You should not have to do that though. Milwaukee is better I believe.

[@Fishbait075]

Counter productive I know, but, could you not hammer those clips in alittle more, after the gun has done its job? From what the camera shows, it looks like theres a good 1-2mm of clip exposed that might be persuaded to embed further, if more force was used? Just to prevent the ability to pull the cable backwards and forwards.

[@xcod88]

How are you allowed to use that sheety cable on wood and not CYABYF???

[@TheUKSpark]

Like it. Think Sean at cablesmith has one

[@supermarket666]

Got one it's OK, just OK, however to get it clipped correct you have to give staples a knock with a hammer on the side least close to the t+e. The purple on the staple is an adhesive and once there in wood they are really difficult to remove and you will damage the t+e in the process. I find it a bit nerve wrecking putting in 10mm t+e as the fear is misfiring into a conductor. My opinion is don't bother..... Great concept but really difficult to get tidy and really impossible in tight spaces plus cost of staples is bat shit crazy.

[@michaelatkinson1378]

When you going to test the clips with high voltage like you did with the ideals, wagos, splice lines and terminal strips

[@lee4741]

I got given one to try from the Dewalt rep beginning of 2019 I tried to use it a couple of times but just don’t rate it (it’s Crap ) it’s good for speed but like you said it doesn’t hold the cable tight enough or neat enough for me. It got thrown in a drawer in the garage. It might be ok for the American market which it was designed for

[@supersparks9466]

I’ve got one and use it but with all things it’s not good for all clipping scenarios, you don’t need mega neat clipping100% of the time.

[@matsudakodo]

What if you press in harder against a solid surface? Do you get better depth?

[@NBundyElectrical]

Yes a lot better mate 👍

[@davey6024]

You clip the loft on rewires? I have a friend who just runs them parallel to joist and not on top incase it gets boarded and he seems to think it's okay 🙈

[@ImHungLikeAHorsee]

thats because it is okay

[@ryancull4]

Nothing wrong with it if it’s all square and not running over joists as you’ve mentioned.

[@supersparks9466]

All cables Need to be supported though out the length of the cable by supports ,not relying on the fabric of the building to support them. Clip them everywhere including lofts otherwise your just a “that will do “ sort of tradesman. Stand out from the rest and do it properly.

[@ryancull4]

@@supersparks9466 may as well throw the bog standard t and E clips in the bin as in the case of any fire and the fabric of the building fails they’ll be as useful as a chocolate teapot.

[@supersparks9466]

@@ryancull4 nothing to do with the fire regs, the fabric will take care of that. My comment was aimed at good working practice, also the regs state cables need to be supported. Keep lashing your cables in then if you can't be arsed to do a decent job.

[@Cablesmith]

I’ve just uploaded a little video to show you how tight mine goes, sometimes too tight if you ask me 😂

[@peterprice8393]

Is there no impact depth setting like a pining gun…..?

[@olly7673]

A mate I out with a full rewire and garden shed had one. They're quick where it could be used but the size of them definitely limited its use, heavy as well. The thing I disliked the most was how bad the job looked with those gargantuan staples.... downright ugly. Less so with two x 2.5 T&E but even then, not pretty. It might be better if narrower staples but no good for those used to OCD cable runs. Also, £200 bare and the price of staples! Don't get me wrong, 95% of my toolbox is yellow and black but nah, not worth it. And if you hit your nails with the hammer, use a pair of pliers to hold the clip or even get a hand staple gun. I'm keen to hear if you and Adam think differently. Thanks for the vid.

[@ariip]

Dewalt and Milwaukee are late to the game. I have had a Halex gun like this for almost a decade or so. The Halex gun loads the same way and has a depth adjustment so you can accommodate different cables and not have the cable loose under them. I can staple one or two 12/2 flat with no issues pinching or being too loose. The Halex gun body is deeper but it has actually been better in tight spaces where you can not actually get a hammer in or swing it sufficiently or have trouble reaching your arm and holding the staple to start. I have tried to buy as many staples as possible and and extra stapler because they may become harder to find. I am not sure why you would not use the gun for visible cables in a garage. The Halex did not sell and was short lived which tells you why I think the industry and especially the other consumers/contractors are just plain stupid. It is a great and useful tool. I know milwaukee has one out now as I have virtually all milwaukee tools. I would not buy dewalt as I think most of their tools lack in engineering, design, and also performance and reliability.

[@brendanfisher2528]

Great video. Like all tools it will have its use in the right situation..

[@scottbeattie1747]

Tap the first clip & use a 2amp battery 🔋 or get the new DEWALT power stack battery’s out in March

[@nathandymond4189]

Thanks for your review on this been waiting for it as was thinking of investing in one. Ive changed my mind i agree i dont like how slack they are.

[@haydenuk02]

Thanks for sharing this with us take care

[@jamesa6091]

Too bright? It's essentially in your beloved Batman logo colours. What these things need is adjustable insertion depth. Otherwise it's quick and that's about it.

[@shakeyh3565]

I'm a Bosch guy,think it's time Bosch bought one out then probably would get one,I've got a manual holds much better from the this video made by lindey white staples,I've seen arrow do a stapler too manual again, good video 👍🏽

[@scottbeattie1747]

I think there’s a new model coming out with the drill grip pal 🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛

[@Vii7aL]

I think for this to be viable in a new build you'd have to run all your cables in first and then run round after with this

[@UberAlphaSirus]

And make sure you do your testing after incase something gets nicked.

[@Vii7aL]

@@UberAlphaSirus yeah especially on the runs leading to the consumer unit. Always struggling for space on the joists in the first place before you have clips that are oversized for the cable

[@UberAlphaSirus]

@@Vii7aL And your grouping factors all in a clip.

[@Vii7aL]

@@UberAlphaSirus I'm not sure what you mean by that

[@thegingerhustle3173]

Site I worked on he used loads, little tap hammer every now again perfect

[@thegingerhustle3173]

Wasn't dealt though

[@xXxpredatorZx]

How is it on fp200

[@bertbergers9171]

I wonder if mainland european cables (round ones i mean) would be thick enough to get grabbed by the staples. Those rectangular UK crossections aren't favourable for the system. And i think your test frame has too much give to try the push-harder-to-shoot-deeper as guys before me are talking about.

[@gmeadowcroft84]

I was excited to see this Uncle Nick, BUT after your review of it I’m left a little deflated…. I have heard rumours that Milwaukee are meant to be being one out this year🤷‍♂️ so that would be interesting to see if it’s any better. I guess it can’t pinch them tight due to the way it fires it in and may potentially damage the cable …. I don’t know. I was thinking of getting one but I’m massively turned off now by that. Great vid though mate and love the honesty

[@thetruth5210]

You are not going to see them tacked down wire tight because of arc fault protection. The Milwaukee M12 Cable stapler is Milwaukee’s attempt to show That their 12 V tools can do whatever Dewalt 18 V tools can do, but with no consideration for you the installer. So now when you’re doing a rough-in (1st fix) you’re going to carry around 18 V batteries for your drill, your hole hog, and your saws and 12 V batteries for your cable stapler??? 🤪🤨

[@gmeadowcroft84]

@@thetruth5210 yer I get what you mean I just think it could get it a little tighter.

[@charlespalmer3158]

it was designed to US national electrical code which says cable staples can't pinch cables. The cable sensor does double duty as a depth gauge so it always fires just to the top of the cable. That keeps it code compliant here in the states for electricians. you can actually staple 1/2" pex plumbing with it and it won't damage it.

[@JRCElectrical]

Uncle nick Unless I had a few new builds coming up that is a waste of money In my eyes, maybe good in a loft

[@firsteerr]

i think the problem is that the clips are NOTY designed for British cables but American cables and are wrongly sized its clearly been rushed in to the market here to catch up with others

[@djacid4100]

What a load of pants! always looking for tools that make my life easier but this ain't one😅

[@paul79donegan4255]

Come on nick you only just got this ? Game changer I just hit the odd one with a hammer if I want to get it tight.

[@kevinwilliams1203]

It’s yellow and says dewalt wot is there to like 😄👍

[@supermarket666]

Nick your a legend 👏 cheers

[@GaryB1980]

I watch you too much, my daughter said that’s the man who done my lights 😅😅

[@stepbackandthink]

The tightness is probably by design.

[@johnspallen3132]

Good honest guy nick 👏 as a maintenance spark be no use to me hmm hard to beat nice hammer clipped cables way t go nick

[@paulthompson5416]

Jeepers me, That's a right piece of junk! What a bloody mess it leaves the 2.5 and they only do one size of clip? You could imagine the customers face when the job was priced to only use 10mm because that's all the staples hold 😂😂 It would be great fun to do 40 downlight in 10mm 🤣

[@jonesconrad1]

looks like you got the 10mm gun, you also need to buy the 4mm, 2.5, & 1.5mm gun.

[@stevenbeaumont1698]

Had one simlar to this in the 1990's for cat 5 utp. was not very good and without been able to change staple depth and type its one expensive one trick donkey.

[@UberAlphaSirus]

did they curl back into the cable too?

[@sergiofernandez3725]

DeWalt need to rethink this tool. Get feedback from sparks. To make this expensive toy/tool fit for purpose it will require the use of correct size staples for eg 1mm T&E. With only 1 size staple currently available it is only fit for 1 size T&E style cable onto wood. It will not work on plaster, block or brick. Remember the staple/clip should hold the cable so it does not move but not to tight as to cut into the mechanical outer insulation layer.

[@graememclaughlin720]

Not a spark mate but they’re saying push harder and stop trying to slate dewalt

[@ariip]

The 10 year old Halex romex gun I have has a depth adjustment. Just another failure for Dewalt.

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

perfect for those terrible network guys that ruin a house by slapping data cable all over skirting board

[@FeedYourGladezZGaming]

Normally the sparkies making a mess in my experience ;) - anonymous network engineer

[@UberAlphaSirus]

Virgin or sky. Ohh you want a box in the bedroom. Out comes the white coax and cable tacker. Moved into this house 2 years ago, old lady owned it, phone in every room. I am still finding phone cable and staples. one went right over the roof.

[@gingermatchfishing]

Great idea but needs development.

[@cocoino2307]

I'll give you guys a summary, you do domestic/newbuild houses buy it. Commercial/industrial don't buy it

[@stevejames9167]

It's supposed to be loose and not pinch.

[@maxbayliss5184]

Wont be that light with that battery, on the 2Ah which is really light it fires around 2000 staples, with you battery your last all year on a charge!

[@paul_my_plumbs_uk]

I just bought a wiha hammer 🔨🔨🔨🔨 HAMMER TIME

[@curtisj2165]

The biggest downfall of this kit is that they don't have different size staples

[@user-hb9ke3xg6g]

Looks pointless when you have to hammer the staples in

[@michaelagnew7825]

should have got the milwaukee

[@karlevans5102]

Looks absolutely rubbish! Speed is all well and good but not at the cost of quality of work. I’d spend more time trying to make it look half way decent using this then it would take me just using my hammer and clips. It’s a good idea in principle but definitely not getting this first gen version

[@jackinavan7220]

A funny tip end ???😦😦😦

[@leon9350]

It's too big and too heavy than the Milwaukee M12 cable stapler.

[@shedlife1783]

Amazed theres no depth adjustment, like with nail guns. Thats two kack tools dewalt have sent you!

[@kyleturner4695]

Wouldn’t be so big n heavy if you didn’t have a 12ah battery on it lol

[@debeeriz]

have another sparky following behind you with a hammer to nail them home

[@davidstone1579]

This probably does not meet 522.8.4 or 134.1.1. A new install like this is totally rubbish, inadequate fixings would warrant a C2 immediately.

[@mmaworld6907]

It’s not even tight round the cable

[@adzhx]

That looks to be absolutely useless 😂

[@graememclaughlin720]

No resistance on your rig either

[@chanellistrik]

subtitle indonesia nick 🙏🏻

[@СимоненкоОлег-д6ы]

Мг,это все конечно хорошо,но у нас в Украине дома из дерева не строят