Dewey on Art and Experience

[@RadicalShiba1917]

Absolutely adore Dewey, nice to see him getting talked about! While not forgotten, per se, I feel like he helped originate many ideas that have a lot of cache on the modern left without him being properly acknowledged as a source. Would love to see more videos about him!

[@GrantLeeEdwards]

America’s greatest philosopher. Thanks for covering Art As Experience.

[@artlessons1]

Thank you. Being an artist ( retired art teacher ), I find this. Interesting. I relate this to how I perceive many everyday uses of Critical Thinking. ( that Dewey is a forefather of) . I find many misuse critical thinking as attacking the other ( like a critic perceiving an art piece ) rather than the artist producing the work going through many complexes he solves through subjective critical thinking. So to carefully meet his goal. He is balancing production with viewing all along the creative journey. I as a youth, I was a competitive athlete that transformed into art. I always felt athletics is as aesthetics, meaning a unified form that produces the desired end through a creative process.

[@InRelativeObscurity]

Thanks for posting! Really appreciate that you have been continuing such good content at such a consistent pace!

[@lovewinsall77]

These lectures are outstanding. It's a great gift to sidewalk philosophy for people who don't exercise, or educate, their imaginations enough. I appreciate it.

[@brb5506]

I see Dewey not as left and right but as a populist. When I was living in Tashkent, I traveled from metro station to metro station just to experience them. Each station has a design and aesthetic that says something about the place in which it is located. (After a devastating earthquake in the 1960s, the metro was rebuilt in imitation of the Moscow metro system.) Each station for travelers is a peak aesthetic experience within the continuity of experience as a whole.

[@standauphin1592]

Incredibly interesting

[@GaryChaffin-tc4dr]

It's interesting how the word "patron" was used for the perjorative "patronize." Thanks for another lightbulb moment.

[@vp4744]

Yes I remember reading about Dewey's "consummatory experience" for both art and nature.

[@MDCB1]

Gratitude

[@pyb.5672]

Great presentation these ideas. Peirce should absolutely be covered in one of your future videos.

[@artlessons1]

I have already made a comment, though after another listen, I reflected upon hearing a former Art auctioneer for Christie's. He said after the final bid ( very high with masterpieces), the audience applauded the bidder, not the artist, as it raised the bar ( capitalist) or with their collections. It was an ego step on the society ladder. The artist who produced the work took the second stage. A divide caused by capitalism. Dewey would certainly see the divide.

[@carolinemiles1067]

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[@willbl6185]

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[@libinandrews]

Interesting take on the issue. But i find our art theoreticians and aestheticians focuss more on the creation of the art by the artist or the generative qualities that make a work of art aesthetics in its unique sense rather than art as an aesthetic/perceptive experience that which arises from the unity of the spectator and art, contrary to the view you have raised in the video. I like Dewey's opinion as Artistic/Aesthetic experience as an intensification of our ordinary every day experience. Do you think Dewey envisions a difference between the Artistic experience of the artist and Aesthetic experience of the seer or Do you think he was content with creation and reception paradigm as the criteria for conceiving aesthetic experience like his aesthetic predecessors?

[@robertalenrichter]

I've always liked this one. "The word "snob" belongs to the sour-grapes variety." -- Logan Pearsall Smith

[@brunocoltrane]

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[@cagdasozgun5883]

What do you people think about 'the unity of life death' by Otto Freundlich?

[@tiramisuvodka8353]

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[@a.e.jabbour5003]

I was moved to tears when I saw Michelangelo's David for the first time, in real space. OTOH, I was moved to tears when I first saw "Titanic." Honestly. So, I'm not sure what that says about me. Believe me, I'm not equating Michelangelo and James Cameron. But the effect that both their artworks had on me was indeed similar. I wish I knew what make of that. I don't. Art is supposed to be emotionally intense. It's very confusing.

[@Richard.HistoryLit]

One has to wonder exactly what effect art had on its recipients.

[@robertalenrichter]

The label "snob" readily gets pinned on people passionate about arts and culture, but status-seeking, rampant in all walks of life, in all social milieus, rarely gets named or even noticed. Every single selfie taken in front of a celebrity is blatant snobbism, defined as the attempt to burnish one's social status by way of association. The noun "snob" is simply society's way of letting you know which forms of thought and behaviour are acceptable, and which aren't.

[@doylesaylor]

As usual a very great sense of clarity to discussing various persons philosophical pronouncements. That said, Dewey seems far less meaningful talking about art. What sort of unity does a movie have as an example? In my view the culture would say a movie is a gold standard of realism. So Dewey’s comments about making art with a movie would be too vague to amount to any sort of help picking up a movie camera and pointing it.

[@tysonbrinacombe]

Film requires industry and a certain amount of compromise with capitalist forces to function though, of course a culture conditioned to neoliberal isolation and escapeism would champion that, a person telling a story orally has a direct connection, actors in a theater have a direct connection, a musician performing on a stage has a direct connection, but recorded media and museums have a certain level of curated perfection that disconnect from the human element and tend to shift the balance further towards product

[@doylesaylor]

@@tysonbrinacombe thanks, I don’t think of a movie quite as you bring up commercial movies. Dewey or any other philosopher for the most part can’t directly say much about pointing the camera and recording a scene. Hollywood production is stuck on the viewing of movies in a theater. If one stays enclosed in that ‘scenario’ some questions like ‘wholeness’ are hard to address. For example 360 cameras, is that wholeness? Those tools are mostly amateurs toys. But they try to address the sense of everything or the whole surrounding us. Hollywood will pick up techniques like ‘3d’ to gain new audiences, or expand their market. But 3D movies don’t work well for about 20% of humans. 3D is a kind of metaphor for wholeness in human vision. And it’s quite unlike a 360 movie. Dewey might as a philosopher speak to wholeness, but is not really prepared to engage with ‘seeing’ the whole.

[@conatusprinciple4115]

Interesting, weird and abrupt ending

[@chino9472]

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[@gokhancevik6648]

Materialist modern world's people think that science can explain everything... However, this is very wrong because science is just knowledge of materials... Not knowledge of material's nature...(ding an sich)... Philosophy can explain material's nature.. And art is knowledge of ideas... For this reason, art and philosophy are more important than science... Greetings and best regards....

[@doylesaylor]

A good example of Dewey’s lack of insight concerns a movie again. One of the oldest concepts of movies is persistence of vision which describes how succeeding frames in a movie seem to cohere. Dewey could not address such a conceit. He’d merely claim that’s a unity which in itself says less than the descriptive persistence of vision. Yes of course there is a whole as if the word Unity transcends wholeness. Persistence of vision offers nothing in any sense say the technology of AI offers. But neither does unity.