DF Retro: Sega Genesis Mini/ Mega Drive Mini Review: The Ultimate Nostalgia Trip?

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It's not perfect - but it's very, very good nonetheless. M2's work on the Sega Genesis Mini (aka Mega Drive Mini) is pretty awesome, the hardware itself is beautiful and the game selection is astonishing. What's not to like? John Linneman has the DF Retro verdict right here.
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@broza82
@broza82 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I still remember clearly.. I was 9 and asked for a NES from my dad. He said if I do well in my exams, he'll buy me one. I did. Then followed him to Toys R Us to buy the console. To my surprise, he bought me a Mega Drive instead! Together with Golden Axe & Sonic the Hedgehog. You couldn't even imagine the happiness I felt on that day. Love you dad!
@1991xoxoshazz
@1991xoxoshazz 5 жыл бұрын
Ozarudin Azman Awww that’s amazing. This story made me smile.
@badcp455
@badcp455 4 жыл бұрын
More stories like this please. Everyone always claims they "played when they were a kid", yet can never cite memories like these.
@starpier
@starpier 4 жыл бұрын
I was a bit older at the time but no chance my father would buy me a console, even a portable one, too expensive =( I played the Mega Drive the first time at a friend´s house during elementary school.
@Ian-Omega
@Ian-Omega 2 жыл бұрын
You took exams at 9?
@bluerobloxberry4740
@bluerobloxberry4740 Жыл бұрын
Pro same thing happened to me bro than I fell in love with the Sega Genesis I played sonic 1 and mortal combat lol😅
@emersonarmstrong89
@emersonarmstrong89 5 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best review of this console on KZbin, thank you for taking the time to break it down properly :)
@drewirons2646
@drewirons2646 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't like the Cinemassacre one? ;-P
@emersonarmstrong89
@emersonarmstrong89 5 жыл бұрын
@@drewirons2646 Haha no I really liked it, I'm actually a big fan of Mike Matei but I prefer comparisons and deep technical explanations as opposed to an empty game store with people getting into fake fights :P Was funny and entertaining tho
@drewirons2646
@drewirons2646 5 жыл бұрын
@@JeBubbieSpubbies I think they could probably get a good thing going with Retail Reviews, but it can't feel like they just turned on the camera and hoped for the best. There are simply too many high quality and informative videos on retro games these days for them to just be so off-the -cuff. If they are trying to go the RedLetterMedia route, they can't talk over each other so much and they need to follow a loose outline. I think they could probably make it more casual than something like My Life in Gaming, but they need to also be straighforward in their delivery.
@drewirons2646
@drewirons2646 5 жыл бұрын
@@emersonarmstrong89 Right; it would do them well to do something more like RedLetterMedia. Casual and fun conversation, but to the point.
@TheDimeDrawer
@TheDimeDrawer 5 жыл бұрын
If Sega made a Dreamcast Mini I would buy it instantly day one.
@selohcin
@selohcin 5 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it!
@MrGlenn253
@MrGlenn253 5 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@ArkaynAdrian
@ArkaynAdrian 5 жыл бұрын
Same!!!! Dunno about it every happening though sadly.
@dohyawatchin2598
@dohyawatchin2598 5 жыл бұрын
I would buy 2!
@Jambobist
@Jambobist 5 жыл бұрын
God yes, Powerstone 1&2, Shenmue 1&2, Ferrari F355 Challenge, Code Veronica, Crazy Taxi, Space Channel 5, Jet Set Radio, Marvel Vs Capcom, Grandia 2 for starters, give it to me!
@KaNe1493
@KaNe1493 5 жыл бұрын
The Mega Drive had some of the best soundtracks for their games. Streets of Rage 2 by far has the best soundtrack on the MD and of all time.
@aussiecoastie72
@aussiecoastie72 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Cartman I totally agree !!
@snx70
@snx70 5 жыл бұрын
Tetris on the MD mini is actually a brand new version, not just the old unreleased game.
@richardhutnik
@richardhutnik 5 жыл бұрын
Why no piece preview?
@OutlawFarmersRC
@OutlawFarmersRC 5 жыл бұрын
@@richardhutnik there is at the top, just one though
@nintendo1889x
@nintendo1889x 5 жыл бұрын
It's Tetris, what do people expect?
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
@@nintendo1889x It's M2, so they used the OG Sega Tetris arcade assets and programmed a new version.
@snx70
@snx70 5 жыл бұрын
@@nintendo1889x The original (unreleased) version was quite flawed, mostly the controls. And no, Tetris is not just Tetris :)
@JustinR941
@JustinR941 5 жыл бұрын
That Genesis sound chip was no joke. Plugging headphones into was so awesome.
@pkbelly
@pkbelly 5 жыл бұрын
16:35 Urgh, sound delay :( Thank you for pointing that out, this is the kind of detail I look forward to being discussed in your videos.
@GT45000
@GT45000 5 жыл бұрын
Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis When I was dead broke, man I couldnt picture this
@proud90skid15
@proud90skid15 5 жыл бұрын
GT45000 fifty inch screen money green leather sofa
@OmarHernandez-ne2bl
@OmarHernandez-ne2bl 5 жыл бұрын
BIG ;)
@Shadowbann3d
@Shadowbann3d 5 жыл бұрын
Got 2 rides, a limousine and a chauffeur....
@benjaminbarker6226
@benjaminbarker6226 5 жыл бұрын
John states in the video that the Mega Drive/Genesis Mini is his favourite mini console yet at 4:37. That's good enough for me :)
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 5 жыл бұрын
keyword being mini console, good thing to get as a collectors item or for the kids, but not something people familiar with the original hardware should hedge on seriously. Tinny sound in places, constant Sound lag and input lag and fixed library. Might as well emulate or bite the bullet and go Analogue.
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 5 жыл бұрын
Until tg16cdgrafx mini drops lol but I'm getting both
@theharvardyard2356
@theharvardyard2356 5 жыл бұрын
Can always count on you Jon for the most in-depth and trusted reviews of anything retro. Thanks for your hard work!
@LowSpecGamer
@LowSpecGamer 5 жыл бұрын
I love your retro videos John! Even if it is a territory that I now very little about you always manage to make this interesting.
@ExpansionPack
@ExpansionPack 5 жыл бұрын
John, you inspire me to do better. Your breakdowns are phenomenal and incredibly thorough. Keep being a master at your craft, the rest of us have a lot to learn!
@SeeD1985
@SeeD1985 5 жыл бұрын
Best review of the Mini so far. Excellent work, including the great choice of music and editing throughout!
@lesterrr12312
@lesterrr12312 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a detailed look at the console, nobody else I've watched mentioned the exact number of frames between the sound and the action, and most importantly you finally made it clear that resolution is 320x224 instead of the more commonly used 320x240, which introduces uneven scaling.. I would say this is the most comprehensive breakdown I've seen so far, even comparing the sound, which is super important.. Great video!!
@nitaiginzburg8689
@nitaiginzburg8689 5 жыл бұрын
Genesis games got some sick tracks!
@Sinn0100
@Sinn0100 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for this! I have two machines pre-ordered. One for me and one for my fiancee. We are huge gamers for life and many of our friends are gamers as well. We are having a 16-bit console throwdown this weekend. We are setting up multiple screens with multiple Genesis Mini's and Snes Mini's (10 screens with 2 mini's each). We will be featuring a Sega Genesis (model 1 '89) and Snes (original '91)on their own screens in our retro room. Our home arcade will be rocking as well and for kicks my Neo Geo AES will be going in our living room. Further, I have a selection of 8 MVS carts for our two MVS candy cabs running that are from the Neo Geo's first 2 years in the arcade. Even though we do have multiple Xbox One X 's, PSPRO's, and Switches...there will be no new games played this weekend. Bring on the retro games! My fiance and I have a 4 day weekend coming in preperation for this monumental occasion. I started gaming in 1985 and 1986 with the Nes and Master System respectively. The Sega Genesis turned me into a hardcore gamer that I am today. My fiancee started in 1996 with the N64 (she is younger than me). Sorry....I'm so freaking stoked! Thank you Digital Foundry!
@WaffleMenu
@WaffleMenu 5 жыл бұрын
Love John’s work & DF Retro Sunday’s!!
@apacheY2K
@apacheY2K 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh the power of blast processing is still unrivaled
@nicktronson2977
@nicktronson2977 5 жыл бұрын
The Sega Master System didn't need blast processing.
@nicktronson2977
@nicktronson2977 5 жыл бұрын
@ Its still being sold as it is still in demand. No mini.
@nicktronson2977
@nicktronson2977 5 жыл бұрын
@ btw, your face is rubbish.
5 жыл бұрын
Nick Tronson No one wanted a Master system ever at least in the UK, the Amiga was the go to machine and after that import PC Engine or Megadrive in the late 80's. The Master System like the NES were 8 bit shite that no one cared about. They were better than 8 bit early 80's computer yes but dog shite compared to 16 bit computers, no one cares.
@math823g
@math823g 5 жыл бұрын
Really happy to hear that the PAL-versions also run at 60hz. That was something that worried me, as the Mega Drive Mini will only release in Europe in october, and I'm not sure if the american versions of the games are available on the european Mega Drive Mini.
@Primate541
@Primate541 5 жыл бұрын
This thing would be DOA in PAL regions otherwise. The era of the Genesis was not kind to PAL region gamers.
@EposVox
@EposVox 5 жыл бұрын
It's so heartwarming to see John finally diving back into PC CRTs :')
@theycallmejpj
@theycallmejpj 5 жыл бұрын
first time i've watched one of your videos but you hit the nail on the head: the best way will always be original hardware through RGB into a CRT. anything else will mean compromises somewhere. £65 for a replica box and 42 games is a good deal. i am a bit disappointed in the audio delay and would have appreciated something a little more scientific about input delay other than "it feels like a few frames".
@laatmaarzien
@laatmaarzien 5 жыл бұрын
theycallmejpj more scientific than measuring the delay like he does in the video?
@theycallmejpj
@theycallmejpj 5 жыл бұрын
@@laatmaarzien he doesn't measure it. what the hell are you talking about. he did a slow motion capture for audio delay but nothing for input delay and all his comments were qualitative only
@booploops22
@booploops22 5 жыл бұрын
I love the amount of detail you out into the review. Fantastic work as always!
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 5 жыл бұрын
37 minutes of genesis talk? Great start to a Sunday
@Modiggidy790
@Modiggidy790 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 5 жыл бұрын
But its not 37 minutes long?
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Graber yeah I had watched gamesacks vid right before this and got my times thrown off
@BDreGaming
@BDreGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Aladdin genesis > Aladdin live action cash-in
@ClapperDan
@ClapperDan 5 жыл бұрын
Aladdin Deck Enhancer> all
@Jucelegario
@Jucelegario 5 жыл бұрын
That was a low self steem Jazmín movie. More of the same wahmen pandering.
@adamyo9003
@adamyo9003 5 жыл бұрын
This is the Genesis Mini review I’ve been waiting for.
@mjpmattos
@mjpmattos 5 жыл бұрын
At 1:34 - the most epic moment of the video. The music from the credits of Thunder Force 4. I LOVE this game. Thanks DF.
@ARIXANDRE
@ARIXANDRE 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up on Nintendo consoles but this seems to be the best overall "classic/mini" console.
@anubrakahn2970
@anubrakahn2970 5 жыл бұрын
Gunstar Heroes was one of the best and most technical side scrolling beatem ups in it's day. One of my favs growing up. Super original artwork, contra style weapon system and close quarters throw mecahnics just made it memorable for me.
@sega-re-trop-vieux
@sega-re-trop-vieux 5 жыл бұрын
Such a professional review, really nice and good informations. Keep working like this !
@Winnetou64
@Winnetou64 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible work as always, John! Thank you!
@borobengal
@borobengal 5 жыл бұрын
As much as l loved the Mickey Mouse games, out of the 2, Castle of Illusion is the best. Would've swapped World of Illusion with Quackshot. Those Disney games are legendary on the Mega Drive. Alien Storm, what a game that was. Surprised to see Road Rash 2. Shame there wasn't a PGA Golf game, more so European Tour. Shame that Tetris has been tweaked, so it's not the original. Two Crude Dudes, Tazmania and EA Hockey. Never played Earthworm Jim, was shocked how great it still looked. And the Japanese version has 6 button controllers. Forgotten Worlds and MERCS. Strider soundtrack is legendary.
@baroncalamityplus
@baroncalamityplus 5 жыл бұрын
The production of this episode was great. Entertaining to watch even if you aren't into a genesis.
@felman87
@felman87 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Digital Foundry's take on the mini. Looks pretty good. Put in a pre-order just now because, hey, if DF says it's good, who am I to disagree?
@neosrt10
@neosrt10 5 жыл бұрын
Fanboy have your own opinion.
@mohammadmj
@mohammadmj 5 жыл бұрын
Yup SOR music; so good it deserved to have been used twice 👍🏻. Well done on another solid video, keep up the good work 👏🏼
@ClockedIt
@ClockedIt 5 жыл бұрын
The sound delay is a little off putting but I don't think most people will notice that too much. Overall the console looks great and I agree that there's a great selection of games here even if some other key ones are missing like Revenge of Shinobi. Great review.
@CAPCOM784
@CAPCOM784 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed it in earlier videos before SGM released with the delay and sound shown here.Been playing Genesis for a very long time and it's very noticeable in my opinion?
@ClockedIt
@ClockedIt 5 жыл бұрын
@@CAPCOM784 Yeah perhaps, I haven't played many Megadrive games on emulator as I have most of the originals that I want, but it's something to think about if I get the Megadrive mini.
@segaunited3855
@segaunited3855 5 жыл бұрын
Composite is why. Composite is no longer used. Don't blame SEGA, blame Modern FTC Standards for NTSC.
@shirokuro73
@shirokuro73 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always John! Thank you!
@DavidAddis
@DavidAddis 5 жыл бұрын
Man, Streets of Rage 2 had such a brilliant soundtrack.
@aussiecoastie72
@aussiecoastie72 5 жыл бұрын
David Addis yeah agreed , still one of my favourites 👍😊
@UltorCXXVIII
@UltorCXXVIII 4 жыл бұрын
So amazing review by DF, once again you are the true king of tech!
@madfinntech
@madfinntech 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my, I have been waiting for this the whole day! Mega Drive is my second favorite console of all time! And I hate it how companies like AtGames have ruined its reputation as they make it seem way worse than it actually is!
@TheQANinja
@TheQANinja 5 жыл бұрын
I have this on preorder! I keep fantasizing about the Saturn Mini that will never come!
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 жыл бұрын
They should sell a mini Mega CD or Mini 32x and make them give the console Mega CD and 32x games.
@dariusdaingurse
@dariusdaingurse 5 жыл бұрын
I just want them to jump straight to the Dreamcast mini lol.
@gabrieleriva651
@gabrieleriva651 5 жыл бұрын
Why would I want to play 32x games?
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 5 жыл бұрын
Just Another KZbin Channel I agree, or just put those game libraries on a Genesis Mini, would be so easy for them to do
@Stoppskylten
@Stoppskylten 5 жыл бұрын
32X is a lot heavier to run, and apparently it was a challenge enough for M2 to get the ordinary Megadrive games to run well.
@sel3735
@sel3735 5 жыл бұрын
A 32X mini with Virtua Racing, Virtua Fighter, Chaotix and Doom (with the farting soundtrack)
@1chiTheKiller
@1chiTheKiller 5 жыл бұрын
I have been so excited to get this Genesis Mini. I can't wait. I had a Nintendo as a kid and although everyone I knew seemed to love the Super Nintendo, I thought Sega Genesis was the coolest thing in the world. Wish I didn't have to wait anymore, but Thursday will be here soon enough.
@da5e
@da5e 5 жыл бұрын
First review I've seen that goes in-depth on the audio. That delay issue is a no-go for me :(
@alleyday
@alleyday 5 жыл бұрын
Gamesack talks about it as well. I have been posting comments about it and people are going apeshit with the replies
@ajbad4ever
@ajbad4ever 5 жыл бұрын
I don't own any M2 developed games/port but I was always under the impression that they were the best of the best when it came to porting games I understand not anything is perfect but the audio lag is just shocking I mean did anyone not noticed I mean it's pretty blatant either way I'm buying one for my daughter I have to make up for the debacle when I bought the at games version I bought a while back
@shaggymcdaniel3216
@shaggymcdaniel3216 5 жыл бұрын
Support Sega and buy one anyways.
@MarceloMedeirosb
@MarceloMedeirosb 5 жыл бұрын
@@shaggymcdaniel3216 @Lord Punchings its as bad an the revered nes mini and snes mini. People are hating on the genesis mini for audio delay but pretend that nes and snes mini dont have it...It bafles me
@CAPCOM784
@CAPCOM784 5 жыл бұрын
@@ajbad4ever Been saying I don't know how people are defending the Sega Genesis Mini with all these problems?I knew it wouldn't be 100% but damn this is like 70%-60%???
@selohcin
@selohcin 5 жыл бұрын
This is the stuff you can get ONLY from Digital Foundry. Fantastic work.
@kevinwells3864
@kevinwells3864 5 жыл бұрын
Pre ordered mine. Lets hope Game Stop stays open till its release. Lol. Now on to the TurboGrafx 16 mini!!
@jokerzwild00
@jokerzwild00 5 жыл бұрын
This is the one I'm really waiting on. I had a NES, SNES and Genesis as a kid but I never had access to an TG16. They were so exotic lol. I sure hope they get it right. I'm looking forward to trying some games out with an OE controller.
@kevinwells3864
@kevinwells3864 5 жыл бұрын
@@jokerzwild00 I got the Turbo instead of the Genesis for Christmas one year. My best friend got the Genesis. We loved playing Herzog Zwei and Golden Axe at his house. My house was Bonk, Military Madness, Splatterhouse, Blazing Lazers..... I could go on. Man those were the days.
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the music at the end, really appreciate that 👍 Also input delay I didn’t know existed on the NES Mini as I have one I backed and put a bunch of games on. Still don’t own an SNES mini tho, too expensive for me atm :(
@WhtGooz4841
@WhtGooz4841 5 жыл бұрын
Nit picky as always... Do I expect anything less from Digital Foundry? Absolutely not 👍 Am I still getting it? Absolutely. Very excited to relive my Sega teenage years even wit a 10 frames sound delay 😝
@ber-js5we
@ber-js5we 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta respect the dedication they have to their craft 👍 digging down to the molecular level of a 16bit emulator's performance ? - only DF 👏
@IronsWorks1990
@IronsWorks1990 5 жыл бұрын
Barley anyone is going to notice that sound delay anyway
@YoshiBoo
@YoshiBoo 5 жыл бұрын
When it's DF Retro, you're in for a blast. Good job as always John!
@ByteSizeThoughts
@ByteSizeThoughts 5 жыл бұрын
God damn KZbin - stop recommending excellent videos that make me want to by a mega drive mini!
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see the High Definition Graphics text is properly accurate for once.
@TripleFermentation
@TripleFermentation 5 жыл бұрын
Contra Hard Corps is one of my favourite childhood games.
@robertbektas1810
@robertbektas1810 5 жыл бұрын
the train robot tho
@TripleFermentation
@TripleFermentation 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertbektas1810 So good.
@robertbektas1810
@robertbektas1810 5 жыл бұрын
TripleFermentation I only found out about the game this year and it’s one of my favourites. I’m glad it’s playable in two ways.
@TripleFermentation
@TripleFermentation 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertbektas1810 It blew me away when I was 7 or 8, and I played the hell out of it. There's a secret ending that I found as well :D
@robertbektas1810
@robertbektas1810 5 жыл бұрын
TripleFermentation if you play as Sheena it’s the most progressive ending cause it’s lesbian and inter-species relationship
@WheeledHamster
@WheeledHamster 5 жыл бұрын
I love new powerful GPU/modern graphics and I love retro games. Digital Foundry offers both. Yes!
@CocoHutzpah
@CocoHutzpah 5 жыл бұрын
No mention of Toejam & Earl or Phantasy Star 4? I expected more from you, John.
@socksfelloff
@socksfelloff 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another fantastic video ! You're in a league all of your own, John. Incredible work!
@HairoxxFR
@HairoxxFR 5 жыл бұрын
ost of thunder force 4
@Moravia90s
@Moravia90s 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this review. As a mattee of fact, this was the only video I wanted to see before deciding if I would buy it. Yes, you guys have become such a respected source of information that at this point you are almost the last word (for me at least) in hardware/retro reviews (along with My Life In Gaming). Keep up then great work!!!!
@GermsOilCotten
@GermsOilCotten 5 жыл бұрын
As long as they play as good as snes classic I'll be pleased as punch.
@soumyajitdeb3943
@soumyajitdeb3943 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and I like that you have nit-picked at the right places. The internet is all gaga over this mini console and there are no critical reviews. This really helps!
@Jprime777
@Jprime777 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video John! Since you mentioned Rocket Knight Adventures, that would be a pretty cool series to do a technical retrospective on. That first game is one of the greatest looking on the console.
@newtypepunk9967
@newtypepunk9967 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's strange the first game looks the best out of the whole series.
@misterkeebler
@misterkeebler 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! Far better than most others i've seen. Imo, the genesis mini surpasses both of nintendo's offerings, and i say that as an SNES diehard. Most of the audio issues are pretty minor and fairly similar to other minis (especially the nes classic). I wasn't expecting perfect emulation. For $80, this thing is a steal with the library of games as far as legal options go to play.
@RetroArcadeGuy
@RetroArcadeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
It seems the YM2612 source code was pulled out from earlier Genesis emulators like Gens or Kega... Fusion 3.64 has the sound issues resolved.
@CCharmanderK
@CCharmanderK 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that the quality of this is roughly on-par with the SNES Classic, sound delay aside. SNES Classic is a great package as it is, and I've gotten a ton of play out of the 21 games Nintendo included there. Looking forward to picking up the Genesis Mini and hopefully enjoying myself just as much there.
@mtoad
@mtoad 5 жыл бұрын
Unsurprisingly this is the best review of the console. Great job p.s. Your MD's reset button is a travesty
@daodolong
@daodolong 5 жыл бұрын
Sega Genesis Mini/ Mega Drive Mini is compatible with the Retrobit Sega USB controllers . Japanese games are easier cause they made western games harder out of spite towards video rentals . So customers rent games longer to earn revenue at all .
@Nitendofan5
@Nitendofan5 5 жыл бұрын
Dude for real where did you get the mini cartridges?!
@WickedRibbon
@WickedRibbon 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Might have to pick one of these up after Christmas.
@Horos_de_Vega
@Horos_de_Vega 5 жыл бұрын
So the key question is: which Darius is better? This brand new MD Darius or the Super Darius on PC Engine CD?
@NYYanks2003040506
@NYYanks2003040506 4 жыл бұрын
Finally bought one a week or so ago. NES was my first system but Genesis was the one that really go me hooked on video games and M2's take on this mini version is great. Hope Sega eventually works with them on a Dreamcast mini. I know that's probably a ways off given some comments that execs at Sega have made regarding price of parts and all that, but we'll get there at some point.
@Nemesis2K
@Nemesis2K 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, but what with the audio levels? They are all over the place from section to section.
@MaitreduMal
@MaitreduMal 5 жыл бұрын
amazing analysis work, thx a lot DF !!! I'll buy it even if the audio part is a let down...too bad I was really looking forward for the thunderforce3 OST...
@texnexus7_300
@texnexus7_300 5 жыл бұрын
I still think Sonics Ultimate Genesis Collection on Xbox360 is the best way to play Sega Genesis games on modern consoles.
@saynotop2w
@saynotop2w 5 жыл бұрын
It is, but that's last gen and those are getting rare themselves.
@axrevolutionai
@axrevolutionai 5 жыл бұрын
@@saynotop2w Genesis Collection on XB1 is better, has Landstalker
@texnexus7_300
@texnexus7_300 5 жыл бұрын
@@axrevolutionai The Xb1 and PS4 Collection also has lag and worse emulation.
@abholcombe93
@abholcombe93 Жыл бұрын
M2’s emulation is STILL 97-98% spot on in my book which is an A plus!! Excellent job M2!!
@Real_Sgt_Tom
@Real_Sgt_Tom 5 жыл бұрын
Even in 2019 Genesis Does what Nintendon't...
@dornjv4545
@dornjv4545 5 жыл бұрын
Real_Sgt_Tom is it input lag?
@denniseudela411
@denniseudela411 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, this IS exactly how a mini console should be built & priced! SEGA not only thinking of profits but reasonable & equally entertaining quality product for both the ol' faithful ones AND the new generation fans! THANKS SEGA. The GENESIS Lives!
@Dhlamedia
@Dhlamedia 5 жыл бұрын
You gotta tell us how you got those custom mini cartridges, John L.
@TheMilkedOut
@TheMilkedOut 5 жыл бұрын
DeL Keyes agreed! Was just about to ask the same
@kainthetrollreaver9270
@kainthetrollreaver9270 5 жыл бұрын
That is a trick I think Nintendo and now Sega have missed. If the mini consoles could support mini carts im sure people would pay $15-$20 for each game.
@theonik2006
@theonik2006 5 жыл бұрын
They are a pre-order bonus for the Mini.
@TheTechnique
@TheTechnique 5 жыл бұрын
theonik2006 from which retailer
@abelperez1434
@abelperez1434 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTechnique Yes I have to know I preordered at Gamestop.
@TheJohnold
@TheJohnold 5 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket 6 Button Pads will surely come. For me as a kid in the early 90's, only having 3 Buttons on the Genesis is what led me to buying Mortal Kombat on the SNES. Nintendo made a stupid mistake that was fixed in MK2, but I have fond memories of 1st Party Genesis games.
@MarkoMaky
@MarkoMaky 5 жыл бұрын
my childhood stil in 2019. :)
@LordZeromus
@LordZeromus 5 жыл бұрын
Props to you John for using SSH songs in a lot of your videos!
@threebedrooms1076
@threebedrooms1076 5 жыл бұрын
i always wanted a thing called tuna sashimi !
@deathofkings5633
@deathofkings5633 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent straight forward breakdown and comparison. Especially as there are so many Genesis collections.
@Greenalink
@Greenalink 5 жыл бұрын
5:50 editing blooper. JP (purple) and US (brown) are placed incorrectly.
@SEGAHEADDY
@SEGAHEADDY 5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but if you're going to show regional differences in Dynamite Headdy, there are other bosses in the game that look 100% different from each other and would have been a far better example.
@TenchiJeff
@TenchiJeff 5 жыл бұрын
I heard about the sound and control issues from another review, but now I'm not worried about it. Thanks.
@suprshin
@suprshin 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait till they do a Sega Saturn mini and Dreamcast mini :D
@subzero8679
@subzero8679 5 жыл бұрын
They aren't doing those
@pferreira1983
@pferreira1983 5 жыл бұрын
@@subzero8679 How do you know?
@subzero8679
@subzero8679 5 жыл бұрын
@@pferreira1983 because they already said they weren't going to. Just like Nintendo isn't going to do an N64 mini. Who is going to buy a Saturn mini? Lol. It would be such a tiny market. Not many people have nostalgia for the Saturn. It would be a loss for Sega to make that mini.
@pferreira1983
@pferreira1983 5 жыл бұрын
@@subzero8679 Where did Sega state that? Interested to read the interview or article.
@STAXONDECK1
@STAXONDECK1 2 жыл бұрын
Came back to get myself hyped for the Model 2 , hope u guys cover that when it comes out
@jamescameron149
@jamescameron149 5 жыл бұрын
It's a purchase obviously, however. No Super Shinobi????
@metalslayer777
@metalslayer777 5 жыл бұрын
13:35 lol This is an ancient stuff from gems emulator. I don't have those on, Kega Fusion, Mednafen, BlastEm
@ryzmaker11
@ryzmaker11 5 жыл бұрын
As if the sound delay wasn't already a big enough issue (although the NES and SNES Mini also had sound delay but still), the Mega Drive Mini also has to have that old sound fail from Gens emulator... :/ I personally don't care much about those mini consoles anyway but this is still a shame that the quality controll was barely there...
@michaelknight3134
@michaelknight3134 5 жыл бұрын
Go look at other KZbin channels most say good things about Sega Genesis Mini
@Macho_Fantastico
@Macho_Fantastico 5 жыл бұрын
Never cared much for these Mini consoles, but this is definitely the most tempting. Adored my Megadrive.
@dhh7413
@dhh7413 5 жыл бұрын
What the everlasting fork, man? How can you put that smokin' hot song at the start and not give us a name? Is it Thunderforce related?
@retrosoul8770
@retrosoul8770 5 жыл бұрын
It's called "Stand Up Against Myself", the ending credits of Thunder Force IV, the very best 16-bit shooter in mine or other op.
@feyt8009
@feyt8009 5 жыл бұрын
The music of this game is sooooo good, easily on the level of legends like SoR.
@retrosoul8770
@retrosoul8770 5 жыл бұрын
Feyt, absolutely. Genesis/MD has at least a few dozen great obscure soundtracks. (Mostly from Japan)
@thanksbetotap
@thanksbetotap 5 жыл бұрын
The songs are all listed at the end of the video, as usual :)
@dhh7413
@dhh7413 5 жыл бұрын
@@thanksbetotap Well, damn I guess I just should've been patient.
@kodoyama
@kodoyama 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see all that beautiful Japanese box art. The Japanese MD has some of the most stunning box art of all time, I've been a passionate collector since 1989. I had zero interest in any of these retro mini consoles until now, but I think this one may have swayed me. The M2 factor seals the deal.
@XBX1MASTER
@XBX1MASTER 5 жыл бұрын
Why Sonic 3 is not in there is beyond me.
@Dhlamedia
@Dhlamedia 5 жыл бұрын
[glares at Michael Jackson estate]
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 5 жыл бұрын
Meh. Sonic 3 Complete and Sonic 3 Angel Island Revisited have superseded the original Sonic 3 & Knuckles entirely. I wouldn't play Sonic 3 on the Genesis Mini if it was on there.
@SketchTurnerZero
@SketchTurnerZero 5 жыл бұрын
I think Sega will release something like MD2 mini 1-2 years after MD1 mini with Sonic 3 and other great games
@CornishCreamtea07
@CornishCreamtea07 5 жыл бұрын
You can download that to play on most systems, and there are about a billion collection that it is featured in. making room for games that have had few or none re-releases is more important.
@timthompson8235
@timthompson8235 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dhlamedia He took himself off the credits, his estate has zero claim to the rights. They couldn't put Sonic 3 on the mini because they needed room for the super popular and much requested Sonic Spin Ball.
@Archvile1
@Archvile1 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review john!
@johneygd
@johneygd 5 жыл бұрын
If sega delays it by one month they could perfect it and swap virtua fighter for mortal combat!!!
@jamiegoguen7384
@jamiegoguen7384 5 жыл бұрын
Great job on the review! Great comparisons! Well done!
@ddavegames3074
@ddavegames3074 5 жыл бұрын
7:35 for Sega Lord X! :D
@nattila7713
@nattila7713 5 жыл бұрын
yess :)))
@FrankBell79
@FrankBell79 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a track from the batman game!
@KISSFan1977
@KISSFan1977 5 жыл бұрын
While I love DF they are talking about the 2017 ATGames Sega Genesis Flashback HD as not good which was true but the 2018 version is actually not too bad. With that being said I still am looking forward to picking up my preorder for the Official Sega Genesis Mini!
@MetalJody1990
@MetalJody1990 5 жыл бұрын
I'd buy this system if it wasn't for the extra input lag. For me, emulating the Genesis in RetroArch on a gaming PC with a G-Sync monitor is the way to go. The input lag is barely existent (if any at all), some of the shaders look fantastic, and overclocking the emulated CPU does wonders at speeding up games like Road Rash 2. Idk about the music quality and audio delay though. I didn't grow up with the Genesis (Only played at a friend's house), so I wouldn't know how the music in these games are supposed to sound exactly. And the audio delay too. That's the thing the emulation... You win some, you lose some. Amazing job yet again, John. You rock.
@segaunited3855
@segaunited3855 5 жыл бұрын
The Input Lag is due to using the wrong Adapter. Its instantaneously fixable.
@x-coin6740
@x-coin6740 5 жыл бұрын
I loved and praised sega for having a headphone jack. When i was a kid in the early 90s it was the one thing that got me my sega, cause i told my parent's it wouldn't bug them with the sound cause it had a headphone jack great times. lmao
@kaisersoymilk6912
@kaisersoymilk6912 5 жыл бұрын
Since the mini runs on a mobile phone SOC they could have easily added a working jack though.
@x-coin6740
@x-coin6740 5 жыл бұрын
@@kaisersoymilk6912 ikr its lame they didn't.
@xxnike0629xx
@xxnike0629xx 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Sega doesn't make more remaster collections on the PS4, X1, and Switch of games from the Genesis, Saturn, and DreamCast. I'm not of these mini consoles or clone consoles. However, I'm sure fans will appreciate the attention to detail with this. Anyway, I think a lot of fans would probably want a remaster collection released physically for PS4, X1, and Switch; especially if the remastered graphical options will look good and the audio is properly remastered.
@matmacsug
@matmacsug 5 жыл бұрын
7:05 Sega Lord X activate!
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