DFS TEACHING VS. PICKS & WHAT MOTIVATES TOUTS

[@PeterOverzet]

buy a lolz mug so i dont have to start selling picks: overzet.myshopify.com/products/lolz-pint-glass

[@laughwithrobhunter4549]

Brian hating on Sheets… “handholding”… he legit doesn’t want cats learn… I been playing for 10 years & still trying to figure this stuff out… I’d love some help, but no one gives some real shhh… they don’t go over their process, they don’t go over Lineups… there real ones… the only honest thing said here was when Brian said he don’t doesn’t want us to get good because it cost him money.

[@PeterOverzet]

brian better go delete all the educational videos from his personal yt channel to preserve this image!

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

correct - content sites would just prefer you pay for info (projections) or pay for community.

[@bttbrandynbtt100]

You sound like someone who is perfectly OK with participation trophies being handed out..... theirs so much content out there on the general overview on how to play in many aspects. To deny that means your lazy and just expecting to pay someone a fee of let's say $80 to then give you EVERYTHING you need to go make thousands per month? Like where is your common sense here genuinely?

[@sheets4444]

No----I expect people to pay a fee of 2500 per month for what I am suggesting. 80 per month should get takes, general strategy, and evergreen videos as it stands now.

[@sheets4444]

Trust me, if people watched my process every day, the game would not be broken----people would still be able to win, and maybe challenged to improve their own process which is healthy. If the very best players shared their exact process, I still don't think the game would be broken. I have full confidence that Brian will be able to win even in a world of sims, and a world of process teaching.

[@slick9234]

I will have to give Brian credit for being honest. I have always believed that people giving out content don't want me to win. I am a subscriber to none of them. I watch Sheets and Bobby all the time. I like the way they do things.

[@PeterOverzet]

nah thats not what he was saying

[@shanesmith7461]

Brian isn't a tout, probably never will be for that exact reason.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

He's fine with people paying money for basic info. He's not fine with the same subscription cost teaching you an entire winning process step by step

[@Enginshim]

@@JustMe-fo4evyou can pay hundreds a month for Stokastic and still not have a step by step process.

[@marcusd8468]

Cash - volume, volume, volume...GPP Volume + potential volume. Play to YOUR projections and trust the players the models like relative to the stacks you like. You win some you lose some. This was a Great watch 👍🏾

[@RicAnderson4ever]

This was the funniest dfs video I’ve ever watched. Sheets low key came with the shoot promo on the whole dfs community 😂 Brian looked pissed lol Pete held it in into the 17:00 point 😂😂😂 great video

[@PeterOverzet]

lol

[@nickolasmcelroy6396]

Smizzle is good about offering strategy and also giving picks with the process of how he got onto those guys like the 5 box rbs and 5 under 5 percent owned and he also shows his rules for the optimizer on fantasy labs

[@PeterOverzet]

yes there are countless examples of teachers in the dfs space

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

Sheets is talking about entire bottom up seminars for much higher cost - basically stuff nobody is providing or at least not offering publicly.

[@nachomansandycabbage9232]

OOOOOH YEAAAAA. Loved the pod as usual. The end was hilarious with asking who the top plays and CPT were. Amazing salvo at the end.

[@PeterOverzet]

🙌

[@Enginshim]

I love Sheets. He is honest and wants people to do well. There are tons of tools…but how do you use the tools to win? That is the grift of DFS and ultimately why I stopped playing. Nobody wants the answers, but if the teacher doesn’t give you a study guide, what’s the point.

[@PeterOverzet]

id say everyone wants the answers

[@Enginshim]

@@PeterOverzet not true. Because even the most seasoned professional players don’t have the answers. The issue I always saw was people playing over their heads. Doing things like playing a single lineup in the milli maker thinking they were going to win and hating on the 150 max guys.

[@Archon876]

The theme music reminds me of the NES game "Bubble Bobble" and it makes me happy. That is all. Thank you.

[@PeterOverzet]

ty

[@sheets4444]

That is why I was laughing just as it started....I wasn't ready for that lol

[@timj3763]

It was an enjoyable, sure to listen to while driving

[@PeterOverzet]

hands at 10 & 2

[@theconsigliere2301]

Josh, Pete, and JM and many of the "full-process" guys simply just turn the camera on to stuff they already have to do to prepare the slate for themselves. It's the most free content and the most humble in that it's "hey here's what I have to do hope it helps."

[@PeterOverzet]

i script all my live streams

[@Copypastedates]

Great angle and content

[@PeterOverzet]

🤝

[@neldfs365]

Sheets is a beast but I can't agree with him there are plenty of touts that do provide process insight and teaching how to play the game. There is only but so much hand holding you can do in the game of DFS. The run pure sports hat was pure class on this episode.

[@PeterOverzet]

it's a well made hat

[@EmoCowboy.]

"musings" was indeed the name of the game lol

[@PeterOverzet]

haha

[@coscampbell6623]

Sheets is the man! He really is about teaching people how to fish

[@PeterOverzet]

🎣🎣🎣

[@AllStarDFS]

The GOAT of DFS

[@PeterOverzet]

✍

[@mjheiting6168]

This one felt like a fever dream

[@PeterOverzet]

ur telling me brother

[@sheets4444]

Had to google what that meant but......maybe lol:)

[@shanesmith7461]

That was a tough interview.

[@PeterOverzet]

we are tough guys

[@brianford78]

i dunno - just about every outlet i consume content from does some level of teaching and example builds like he's talking about - i mean, OWS's whole thing is teach you how to fish - but i only do NFL so i'm not doing it "on a daily basis"

[@brianford78]

feeling some big ego energy and being in a bubble... and also not everyone is sitting there with enough money to sub to all these difft optimizers and sims so "how does it help me use what i have?" isn't applicable to me bc i don't have what he has

[@20rickk]

This episode was the opposite of the RBX88 show last week.

[@PeterOverzet]

that is very true

[@sheets4444]

I did suggest it might be a change of pace:)

[@ericsudduth7650]

Pete get that damn hat off your head🤣🤣🤣

[@PeterOverzet]

why it's a great hat

[@evanwrenn402]

Bax and Sheets, legends in the online poker world

[@PeterOverzet]

🤙

[@jerome8492]

It seems like Sheets hasn't watched content in 3 years. So much content talks about ownership, building plus ev lineups vs singular plays, so on and so forth.

[@PeterOverzet]

ya there's a lot of evergreen concepts

[@sheets4444]

@@PeterOverzet I watch plenty---and definitely plenty of evergreen concepts.....def plenty of how to use tools....def plenty of theory of ownership etc....but I stand by my comment that there is very little of actual application of those to daily slates. I guess we will see, but I am confident that in 1-2 years there will be more, by people better than I am. Who would have thought that there would be sims/contest sims etc 3 years ago? I know Brian doesn't like the natural progression of education, people getting better, with new processes etc, but I think its healthy when everything gets harder challennging everyone to get better.. (Maybe I missed Brian's take on that point)

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

I think he just didn't get into enough detail to make his points clear to low level thinkers/players

[@theconsigliere2301]

Rotogrinders ... How does Sheets fit in the Kitchen tree? Most important question obviously.

[@PeterOverzet]

many are wondering

[@Denssity]

25 minutes this feels like Sheets is marketing himself and his tout Product as they will actually help you and no one else is doing this. Miss me with the “he really wants to help” people crap

[@Denssity]

This feels like a grift Jfc

[@Alvaro_Zertuche]

Literally all Degenerate75 does is what this guy said no one does, I've never seen give picks before🤷🏼‍♂

[@PeterOverzet]

🤷‍♂️

[@sheets4444]

I don't know who that is exactly, and of course I do not know everyone----and if he and others do this on a daily basis then hats off.

[@shotlikeharden233]

🙌

[@PeterOverzet]

🙌

[@gdknght9581]

chess and dfs is totally different and you can't compare at all. too much word salad... getting grifter vibes 48:50 - Was the best thing he said all podcast... no cap !

[@sheets4444]

Chess thing missed the mark---I meant something else (not sure what lol) Didn't feel like I was grifting sry if that came across. Just had alot of thoughts and it sort of emptied at once. thks for listening.

[@bttbrandynbtt100]

Brian, Pete, love you both, cant get past 25 minutes of listening to this nancy say their isnt enough teachjng out there.... insanity... no one shoukd be selling optomizer rules per slate (essentially what it sounds like sheets wants 25 min in). He clearly needs someone to educate him on how hard itbwas to come play in 2014 with hardly any content, optos, or any poker background trying to just come in and play... Rookie...

[@sheets4444]

It is hard to come play in 2023 into the current landscape with what is out there-----Nancy:)

[@PeterOverzet]

please get to 35 min to help my retention metrics in the algo

[@spencergibbons1390]

This Sheets guy is a clown. Lol interesting show though

[@sheets4444]

sometimes a clown for sure.

[@PeterOverzet]

🌶️

[@ShoepremekaiAA]

This sheets guy sounds like he wants dfs to die with all this hand holding nonsense

[@PeterOverzet]

⚰️

[@dickchuck4036]

20 minutes into the replay and this guy is asinine IMO, I might leave an updated comment at the end and change my stance

[@PeterOverzet]

you are always allowed to change your opinion

[@spencergibbons1390]

Couldn't agree more but i am only 30 mins in... not a fan of this guy at all. But hooper is the man

[@sheets4444]

@@spencergibbons1390 I sort of agree====Hooper is def the man and I was not a fan of myself at all for some of it, but conceptually I stand by my overall observations:)