Tiguan no start,startermotor diagnose

[@ianmontgomery7534]

I am in Australia and have a 1999 Ford Fairmont station wagon. Due to its age I got my mechanic to check all of the earth points on the car to make sure they were clean and effective. It found one suspect lead that he replaced and he said i was the first person to have ever asked him to do a full check of earths. I do purchasing in an electronics company and see that grounding problems are common so to me it was a no brainer. Thanks for your videos I am enjoying them very much.

[@billsmith2212]

Thanks for the info. Dan . Worth noting is to always use HEAVY jumper cables . I worked from 1970 - 1980 at a starter/alternator rebuilder . I can't tell you how many times an auto parts store would do a " test " with thin cables and the rebuilts did not work properly . They are " tight " with new bushings , etc. If the battery is a little low , combined with the thin , $ 9.95 cables - you get the idea . I would take the starter and ground the body to the negative post and jump the positive with a HEAVY BATTERY cable . Maximum amps for the test . Less voltage drop . Heavy cables can get you started where the cheapos fail . The newer permanent magnet , gear reduction starters may use less amps and rely more on torque than rpms to get the job done . But there is nothing like HEAVY copper cables to get that power to it . Jumping out BOTH power and ground can save a ton of time and money . Bill .

[@Diagnosedan]

Thanks for the comment!

[@ferenctulics9688]

110% agree with you, Bill Smith!

[@pretendmechanic8697]

I had this exact same thing happen to me with a Fiat Punto. After I replaced the starter motor, I had that sinking feeling in my stomach when I turned the key and nothing happened. I Only did voltage checks on the positive side which I'm assuming is what your friend did. I only found the fault (all but 3 or 4 wires were broken on the ground cable connecting the transmission case to body to battery) when I did a voltage drop test on the negative side... its a mistake I will never make again and I'm sure your friend won't either💪. High resistance on the ground cable is a fault I found on 3 other cars that didn't fully activate the starter motor. I've been binge watching your videos for the last 2 days and I have to say that every one of them has been outstanding. Keep up the good work!👍

[@Diagnosedan]

Thanks for the great comment buddy it's appreciated!

[@bartnuyts]

Its actually a verry comman problem with fiat's,after 20 years in the brand i have replaced at least 30 of those cables!the diagnose with the jumper cable is the best test you can do,i had one where i did a resistance measuring from negative on the battary to the starter housing an it was fine,the cable was olso fine but the car would not crank.it did crank with the starter cable attached so after taking off the ground wire at the gearbox and screwing out the bolt it connects to in the gearbox you could see burn in marks on the treads off the bolt!it had ground on the gearbox but could not draw the current it needed to turn the starter.

[@lovetolearn5253]

Just found your channel, the accent threw me off a little at first but your videos are killing it. Thanks I get alot out of it

[@Diagnosedan]

Kaysauto52 repair! Thank you sir!

[@StefanBergman]

Great fix! Interesting that a bad grounding point could do that. Awesome video!

[@larryhurst8958]

KISS, great job, love the videos, teaching is as much an art as it is a science, and you my friend have both of these attributes.

[@Diagnosedan]

Thanks Larry!

[@zumik83]

No thumbs down in over a year. Congratulations !

[@Diagnosedan]

Ha ha never realised that!👍

[@zumik83]

Definitely the ending was the cause of this, not the actual fix. Keep it up !

[@ferenctulics9688]

@@Diagnosedan Of course, you're way too busy showing us good stuff! 😀

[@angryfurbie]

Thinking outside box. I will keep this in mind for my next no-start. Keep em coming!

[@Diagnosedan]

Thanks for watching!

[@tony5haw]

You just saved me the money for a new starter motor, I have this exact issue on the exact same car. Seems this may be common. Il order a cable now, top man for sharing!!!

[@christopherandraos4839]

Im having the same issue too same car! Did the new ground wire fix the issue?

[@tony5haw]

@@christopherandraos4839 yes mate, buy a new ground and you will be fine, mines perfect now

[@tony5haw]

@@christopherandraos4839 drop me an email and il send my number encase you need a hand [e-mail]

[@christopherandraos4839]

@@tony5haw I checked my ground and it was fine so took the risk and turns out it was my starter motor! All fixed now 😁

[@richardmounfield7822]

Just looking through some of your earlier videos . this was a nice easy one for you. Back to basics then move forward .I say easy. Sometimes we overlook the basics and thats what catches us out . I bet you get a few requests off your friends to diagnose lol regards Rich

[@Diagnosedan]

Richard Mounfield 🤣🤣

[@mrgrumpy5116]

I was happy to find one I hadn't seen, missing your videos ..

[@Jorfix]

He is lucky to work with you Dan. Wish I could. Top 🔝

[@careyautorepairs]

You're defo the best boss in the world Dan. Such a cool fun guy.

[@luisbaez88]

Good video Dan. Another way can be using a volt-meter one lead connected to the engine block or transmission housing and the other one straight to battery negative and measure the voltage drop when cranking the engine.

[@Diagnosedan]

You are right! Thanks for the feedback!

[@spirosgazikas1283]

Congratulations for your job!!! You are amazing! You are like a teacher for me, thanks for all those things that you share with us!!! I have learned much things watching your videos and your philosophy about the job! Thanks again!!!

[@Flyingspann3r]

A much easier way to check for engine or gearbox earth strap problems without the need for raising the car would be to do a volt drop from the negative battery post to the starter housing or gearbox and crank, anything more than 0.2-0.5 volts means you have a bad earth. You can do the same from the battery positive to the starter positive for both terminal 50 and 30, quick and simple test. Saves the shop time and money, try it out on a video Dan. The circuit must be loaded to get a good test. You will wonder why you didn’t do this before as it is so easy.

[@DanNeb-w3e]

I came here after discoverd this gem today and watched the non start Mercedes-Benz recent video, mannnn! I didn't know that a 6 years later can make someone age looks that different 😂, long living bro!

[@steveguest8028]

Good video Dan, love your sense of humour at the end 🤣

[@TTV_Skullzy]

I’ve noticed that ground wite issue straight from the beginning 😅🤣..please keep it up,we want more!

[@Diagnosedan]

💪💪👍

[@sinegra30]

That's a funny and amazing fix! Thank you so much for your videos!

[@Diagnosedan]

Argeny Sandoval Thanks man!😁

[@zxtenn]

Smart as a whip and funny, Happy New Year from a new sub. in the US!! I recently put a new starter in my 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee, it was dragging, I checked battery voltage and it was fine and the cables were recent, dragging usually means armature or brushes are worn if the power getting to the starter

[@autotek3110]

Cant believe the previous shop missed that cable... before u even mentioned it.... i seen it. Its an obvious one...& is common on passats etc... Also... always have that cable undone when having the gearbox out for clutch work... so condtion can be easily checked on that... or cleaned etc. Its a simple spot/fix for a shop to miss !!! But there we are. The best tech fixed it again 😁

[@gsoup7850]

Best channel on YT

[@jeramiet154]

Lol, I called that ground as soon as I saw it when you were testing the starter power circuits.

[@davemac3942]

I had exactly the same problem on a Peugeot 207 1.6 Diesel. The poor earth between the starter and the bell housing caused by someone leaving a cable tie to hold the earth wire and retaining bolt together had not been removed. It and was reassembled crushing the cable tie between the earthing clamp and the bell housing. Over time the bolt worked loose (as it was not secured) causing a bad earth (and not charging the battery as well) so after a week the battery was flat.

[@jhalakgurung3980]

You are just amazing learning every day.

[@upsidedown4155]

I dunno about newer gen vag vehicles but made in the same era as a mk4 golf immo system cranked the engine and it would start then cut out within seconds, Did have a mk1 1.9 sdi caddy we did a engine swap on, it cranked and would not start, no fault codes on any ecm, had to go in to coding and resave the value (effective soft reset of the immo controller which i think was 017 instruments) and boom the engine fired right up

[@donnierobertson3088]

Great job again like always

[@Diagnosedan]

Thanks!

[@ashbrauw]

Thanks, you saved me a lot of head each time and money

[@martinlavoie4002]

Good stuff just off the top of my head I would of checked the grounds was a common thing here in Canada 🇨🇦 with all the salt we get here anyhow good video was nice to see you’re shops out in europe

[@rrmech11]

Hilarious video You guys are having to much fun

[@Diagnosedan]

Richard Gill, Yes we had a great time!😂

[@dzelpwr]

Solid way of diagnosing. Would have been a good opportunity to show how to do a voltage drop test on both the power side and the ground side to also narrow down which could be the issue. Then again, it didn't seem to have enough ground to even get the solenoid to click this time. But, it could have still shown something I'm sure.

[@paulfinglas1305]

Thanks lads what great simple video 👍

[@petar443]

0:29 Even if IMMO problem exist, the starter should still crank.

[@Diagnosedan]

Be carefull, not on al cars!!!!!!!!!! On Bmw for example the stater does not crank when the immo is on.😉

[@jacktingzon1012]

Yup i agree with you dan.

[@84sneaky]

Or if it didnt crank and are unsure what point immobilization the car has you can do a relay bypass to engage starter and crank motor and if still doesn't fire up you can then check for spark and injector pulse.

[@OilBaron100]

So this is where the legend started…

[@arthurfricchione6614]

good informative video Dan 👍

[@Diagnosedan]

Thanks!

[@manishgaikwad1659]

You forget to mention Diagnose Dan Fixed It Again 😍

[@nicknicu1787]

LOL! You’re the man Dan! 👍

[@Diagnosedan]

Nick Nicu 🤣🤣🤣Lmao!👍

[@mrb1864]

The old booster cable good trick for ground fault tests . job jobbed, at least original starter was faulty .

[@Diagnosedan]

I love my booster cables🤣🤣

[@EXOVCDS]

Wish I had that much fun making videos! =)

[@Diagnosedan]

Thomas EXOVCDS at least i have fun watching your Video's😉

[@EXOVCDS]

Not sure how I should respond to that! =( or =)

[@jesusmalagon4336]

Thanks great video

[@billrimmer5596]

Thomas EXOVCDS I certainly love your video too. R u still in Germany?

[@EXOVCDS]

Bill Rimmer Hi Bill... no. Have been back 2 weeks tomorrow.

[@samihsamih9004]

thunbs up I finished watching your videos

[@kdmq]

It is important when you check the fat battery power wire to the starter, that you turn the key to the crank position to put a current load on the fat cable. Sometimes you will observe 12V when the key is off, but when you crank the key, the voltage will drop significantly lower, say to 4V. However, if this was the case here, your bypass test with the black booster cable would not have worked.

[@sara78130]

Yes I did one time mistake befor I order 270£. New start motor mine same cable burn out. Thanks :)

[@Diagnosedan]

auto uk, expensive but you'll never forget😉

[@Sergio8191994]

Lol, 4:04 The grin of someone who knows they found and fixed the problem.

[@richlanza6877]

Thanks great job

[@saneauto]

Woohooo Diagnose Dan to the rescue

[@masterjoe3000]

Good shit broda!

[@Diagnosedan]

😂😂👍

[@thatstrami]

Thank you very much for your video it was extremely helpful

[@Diagnosedan]

That's great!

[@edwinvp]

Zou de kabel (nog verder) kapot zijn gegaan omdat die oude startmotor al excessief veel stroom begon te trekken? Zo heb ik laatst gezien bij een buurman met lege accu dat de ene startkabel wel werkt maar de andere weer niet. De slechte kabel valt niet door de mand bij een weerstandsmeting maar heeft wel een kleinere diameter (minder stroom). En dan was de auto nog niet eens een diesel.

[@danielodonnell445]

Tks great video

[@Diagnosedan]

daniel o donnell Thank you!😁

[@5jjt]

Isn't the starter naturally grounded to the engine by its mounting bolts? And then, the engine is grounded to the body?

[@Diagnosedan]

CoffeeBean that's correct!👍

[@Perumet]

I think the problem was the ground wire between the engine/transmission and the body

[@5jjt]

@@Perumet Ah ha!

[@chrise8442]

Yeah but the engine is held in by rubber engine mounts. So all ground cables should be checked on electrical issues as a rule of thumb

[@barrybritcher]

i dont get why it didnt start when you bench tested it, the ground was direct to battery then?

[@jankindl915]

Bad ground, mother of many mysteries :)

[@billrimmer5596]

Good morning Danny. Is this your first video? Just going back and checking the ones I haven't watched yet. Thank u for the super channel

[@c14back2nitrogen9]

God bless you that was awesome

[@Diagnosedan]

Thank you!

[@TheKeenMechanic]

Legend

[@tonykollar6870]

Dan I've got 2007 wolksvagen touareg 2.5 tdi... There is Clicking noise and it won't turn engine.... Do you think it's same problem?

[@4Sucharith]

Dan the smart man

[@bandit6918]

Had the same problem on a Tiguan too!

[@thomas24469]

hi which sensors would cause a no start , ie crank sensor faulty = no injector pulse. and so on would be nice if you do do a video on this topic regards tom

[@Diagnosedan]

Tom williams, as soon as i run into one i will 😉

[@GNX157]

Nice ghost knock on start up for that engine lol.

[@Diagnosedan]

😂😂

[@MrSenad54321]

Where is your shop,i have issue with gti,when is hot it having hard time to start.

[@besmirthaqi6990]

I have a problem like this in my 2012 Tiguan. While I was driving last night the car started losing the power and turned off. I tried to turn on, and only one time it turn one. It wast the fuel pomp. I bought a new one its ok, but it still does not turn on, the mechanic said that the broken of fuel pomp could damage the motor inside... Any advice??

[@Diagnosedan]

Besmir Thaqi, is it a petrol or a diesel. and what were the fault codes. How did you deside your pump sas broken?

[@besmirthaqi6990]

Its diesel. The mechanic said us that it does not work, because does not sent oil to the filter. When it replaced it with the new pump, it was okay. But he is not getting up yet, it and he warned us that it could damage the motor...

[@Diagnosedan]

Besmir Thaqi, was there any metal dust in the fuel?

[@besmirthaqi6990]

He said Yes. Due to the fact that the mechanics here are not so professional, the problem is bigger...

[@user-qp2ol9tx6s]

Thank you very mach

[@Diagnosedan]

Thanks for watching!

[@chicanesimon]

If a tech could not diagnose this it I would advise them to seek an alternative occupation, seriously engine ground basic stuff

[@Diagnosedan]

Maybe someome who want to become a tech?😉

[@loubakker5000]

Who is your side kick ?

[@NiaTech]

After i change the clutch and flywhell i forgot to connect the gearbox ground once and i had the same symptoms:)))

[@jesusmalagon4336]

Thanks for shearing

[@Diagnosedan]

Jesus Malagon, sure buddy no problem!👍

[@bigafaycal274]

Good dan

[@nigelclark7360]

That's what l do in places like in Aden just to get a result with minimum of tools etc

[@andreamel4688]

Hello. Can you please help me with an issue on vw tiguan 2009, error cylinder 3 missfire. I already changed the glowparks, injectors and others and still the check engine lights comes on. Thanks a lot

[@Diagnosedan]

Can be carbon build-up on the intake valves, ignition coil, oil in spark plug shaft, turned lobe on camshaft. Ect.

[@andreamel4688]

@@Diagnosedan no carbon build up, no oil, and all of the above changed, camshafts new...☹ I'm blocked. Anything else ?

[@Diagnosedan]

@@andreamel4688 is the Car not running on cilinder 3?

[@andreamel4688]

@@Diagnosedan it is running, no problem. Only problem is the check engine light that appears only when the car is stationary

[@Diagnosedan]

@@andreamel4688 Sorry it's a diesel?

[@jojo44296]

Dan very cool sma South Mason auto

[@Diagnosedan]

😊👍

[@TelaKalleoy]

Like in the other videos of your (allways visual inspection)

[@melmitch9768]

Negative cable?

[@Diagnosedan]

Yep!😉

[@Qwerty1235945]

Robin - please wear goggles when you're using a wire brush please :-)

[@Diagnosedan]

Qwerty1235945, your right! Safety first👍

[@akramkakooza1430]

I have a DF016 EGR Command Circuit,Short-Circuit To +12v Active and a DF089 Inlet Manifold Pressure Sensor Circuit,Permanent Low Level Active on a Renault kangoo 1.5 DCI the car won't start and the glow plug light won't go off when I put in switch I don't understand is the car in limp mode what can I do to fix it I doesn't have injector pulse

[@adnandahmeti7653]

👍

[@dlairlaw]

Thanks

[@Diagnosedan]

Your welcome!

[@МуслимМагамадов-г5э]

Молодец

[@tullgutten]

Had many of these remanufactured starters beeing bad or making lots of noise when activated

[@loubakker5000]

Batman and Robin. LOL Just kidding. Enjoyed watching.

[@mrfunnylookinhayes9088]

I saw the ground issue time they got it in the air.

[@mart9898]

This shows up as your oldest video but you are saying at the end "This was ANOTHER video from Diagnose Dan " Next one after zero is not really another...

[@THINKCARAZERBAYCAN]

💥💥💥👍👍👍✅️✅️✅️

[@stevo450ify]

Was that probing through the cable casing 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈

[@benzman113]

Recycled copper vws are full of it they can work it out to the minute when they break ,they are made of junk.

[@Diagnosedan]

😢

[@leovideo121]

Hello, please help! 2011 VW-tiguan running normally, hesitated a bit, but nothing serious, I drove normally came home, the car won't start at all, my buddy checked it, i took it to the idiots thief at vw-dealer charged me 150.00 just to tell me that the engine is locked, my buddy checked the timing belt, and is ok, it is a metal timing belt. Then he says that he found a piece of metal looks like a bolt and that it could be what is not letting the engine turn/fire up. He says that he sees the metal inside the first piston. How can I remove that piece of metal? he tried with a magnet but the head is too big....please help?

[@tonypond8196]

s.o.s sandy anderson in distress ! hi dan if your not too busy could you spare 30 mins sandy is stuck with a no start on vw p.d diesel engine struggling myself with this . p.s anymore videos coming soon ?

[@Diagnosedan]

tony pond, find Diagnosedan on Facebook. Contact me via messenger. I'll see what i can do😊

[@tonypond8196]

thanks very much dan .

[@dennisvdun812]

Die bloemkolen op de massa kabel vielen mij meteen al op. Maar dit is toch een simpel probleem wat iedere monteur had kunnen oplossen lijkt mij

[@Diagnosedan]

Dus.......?😉 deze filmpjes zijn educatief en niet alle kijkers zijn van hetzelfde niveau.

[@dennisvdun812]

DiagnoseDan Bedoelde het niet als commentaar hoor. Heb ook al nieuwe dingen geleerd van je filmpjes. Maar vond het vreemd dat een ander autobedrijf dit zelf niet kon oplossen

[@Diagnosedan]

@@dennisvdun812 Robin in dit filmpje heeft een bandenhandel en twee linker handen🤣🤣

[@mubirukadiri6686]

It's a common problem on European cars, but by using a voltage drop on ground side demonstrate first

[@shaunbreslin6360]

Voltage drop test!

[@belchinois]

У нас бы денег взяли за такой ремонт много и сказали что поставили новый стартер))))

[@e9hama516]

Hi, I need help

[@n.n8192]

Nog geluk dat de de kabelboom niet is opgesmeuld.. heb ik ooit gehad met als oorzaak ook een kabelbreuk in de dikke massakabel naar de motor toe

[@Diagnosedan]

Passat Tdi stroom zal inderdaad een weg naar massa proberen te vinden, als er dan te veel stroom door een te dunne draad gaat kan deze inderdaad overbelast raken.⚡⚡⚠️

[@1atech]

Why do you have to disable ignition system to do starter voltage drop test? You need to put engine in crank position(current flowing) to do voltage drop test.

[@Diagnosedan]

I'm not sure what you mean, please explain

[@1atech]

When doing a voltage drop test on a starter, WHY do you have to disable the ignition system? To do a voltage drop test, the circuit MUST be loaded--correct?

[@Diagnosedan]

@@1atech yes the circuit needs to be loaded but I'm not sure why you are talking about disabeling the ignition. The car was already not cranking. Are you talking about a relative compression test?

[@1atech]

no. Some YOUTube mechanics say you MUST disable the ignition system or fuel pump in order to do a voltage drop test on a starter. That doesn't make sense to me. That is why I wrote you(BIG FAN of yours)!!

[@jeffl1944]

Cylinder head valves are bent due to chain tensioner

[@vicky-nc3to]

Master- blaster DAAAANNNNNNNN....

[@Diagnosedan]

🤣🤣👍👍

[@cereprepus6106]

В России бы сказали, что надо начать с замены стартера, а потом посмотрим....

[@theheavymechanic4949]

Omg it’s the Dutch Seann William Scott!!!

[@Diagnosedan]

Brett Auto Diagnostic and Repair, i don't know who that is but I'll look him up😉

[@Diagnosedan]

Brett Auto Diagnostic and Repair, i looked him up and i know who he is now! And Robin does look like him😉

[@theheavymechanic4949]

DiagnoseDan haha it’s stifler in American pie.

[@Diagnosedan]

Brett Auto Diagnostic and Repair, Ha Ha Ha🤣🤣 Lol

[@a.c.e.7568]

Another great video! Diagnose Dan is the only site really worth looking at and while watching it, its like doing a Sudoku puzzle. But as you were measuring the voltage at the starter, I quickly noticed the ground strap on the transmission (I'm an electronics technologist). When you start dealing in over 100 amp draw which is what a starter can draw (and higher if it is very cold outside), every bit of resistance in a cable, be it a positive or a negative cable, makes a difference. You get a voltage drop across that resistance (aluminum oxide) and that means less power or no power to the starter. In a 14V system, you can afford a maximum 0.5V drop from source to load. Also, I tend to repair things as a home mechanic (too time consuming for a shop, I realize that). Here is a starter that I rebuilt for my friend's Porsche 997. Look at the commutators. No wonder it was slow to turn over or it would not turn over at all. edelweiss.smugmug.com/Cars/Porsche-Technical-Stuff/Porsche-997-Starter/

[@Diagnosedan]

A voltage drop was indeed exactly what this was!👍