Diagnosing and Treating Complex Medical Cases Like Toxic Mold, Candida and Mast Cell

[@yamani3882]

I really respect this host for asking direct questions, he wanted to learn practical things he can do for his patients.

[@Vgallo]

if every dr had the intellectuall integrity of dr nathan, NONE OF US WOULD BE SICK

[@suzettebavier4412]

👏 Excellent comment 👏

[@Peter-mo3pr]

Neil Nathan is amazing, one of the only genuine functional doctors around. He seems to know exactly what's going on based on symptoms and doesn't want to spunk peoples hard earned money testing them for things that in reality have no bearing on the outcome. I am about to see a practitioner trained by him in the UK so I'm really hopeful I can make a recovery.

[@majahorvat7294]

Would you mind sharing which doctor you are going to see? I am in Europe and possibly interested in someone who is trained by him.

[@Peter-mo3pr]

@@majahorvat7294 Dr Anton Krige. He doesn't hold your hand, you have to update him on progress but he does adjust everything if required and gives advice over email. I got a fantastic plan from him, diet advice, full gut healing protocol, binder protocol, immune system protocol, it was very detailed. The supplements aren't cheap, if you aren't in work currently it's hard to afford all of them, I found that I had to buy the main ones as requested and buy cheaper (but good) alternatives to others.

[@lorrainerawson2724]

Have you had some success? Which doctor is it you started seeing?

[@Peter-mo3pr]

@@lorrainerawson2724 I started seeing a Dr Anton Krige, he no longer prescribes itraconazole anymore, however Burghwood clinic do (just got prescribed) I'm unsure what their normal protocol is as I was already at the antifungal stage and Dr Econs helped me out with both nystayin and itraconazole

[@hugosthoughts]

Let him finish his thoughts! Stop interrupting people, if you do it with him, you must do it all the time with other people. This could’ve been a great interview 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Vgallo]

hey dude at least he wants to learn and help people, thats the most important thing, i know its slightly annoying, but slightly annoying aint important in our situations, unles you arent sick?

[@breakage959]

yea its really annoying. what a dweeb he is.

[@odeszarules5125]

Seems like a complex immune dysfunction problem that umbrellas numerous conditions like fibromyalgia, mold illness, MCAS, etc. Pretty weird how none of these conditions existed 50 years ago. Let that sink in and then ask yourself why

[@sarahb.6475]

Well MCAS often goes with hEDS. You know hypermobile Ehlers Danlos syndrome. And that is genetic. I just watched a new video with Dr Afrin where he said that something causes the mast cells to mutate and the mutated mast cells misbehave. He doesn't know yet what it is that causes the mast cells to mutate yet - but probably something in the environment?

[@stephaniew4168]

I think eds will be found to be actually a genetic susceptibility to something in the environment that causes damage to the collagen. They haven't been able to find genes that cause 98% of eds cases. I believe it is all environmental.....eating ultra processes crap pesticides toxic soup we live in eat drink and people done eat enough protein and fat.....they get sibo they cannot absorb ther vitamins....its got to be an environmental trigger for most people.

[@Vgallo]

or it did and the people went without any treatment

[@Jnomadik]

@@sarahb.6475 interestingly, a deficiency in cellular BIOAVAILABLE copper leads to low DAO (the histamine lowering enzyme) and a huge increase in the number of mast cells in total. Supplementing bioavailable copper has also been shown to fix methylation issues and kick Lyme out of cells. It heals mutated cells too. Would be crazy if all of this “hEDS, MCAS) stuff were simply a copper deficiency right? 😅

[@andreawisner7358]

It's easy, when a patient doesn't get well, to blame the motivation of the patient, rather than the ignorance of the doctor.

[@JD-nf3rd]

You guys are amazing! Thank you so much for doing this- real healers.

[@eicrusade6161]

One thing I wish was discussed was the recent reports that clay can have high levels of lead which of course is toxic.

[@kimberlyryan8618]

The main reason why medical doctors are not taught about mold disease is because the testing is not found through serum labs! Serum labs hold all the diagnoses that lead a doctor to the real money making chronic diseases. Mold toxicity can eventually cause a lot of kidney, lung and liver damage but mostly it causes dehydration initially! But true dehydration is found much later as other organ disfunction begins! When mold toxicity is finally seen in serum labs it is a life and death diagnosis which can also demonstrate a lot of electrolyte imbalances. This is a "better" money making disease than taking supplements until the condition is healed! The pharmaceutical and insurance companies want "real" diseases "with no cure!" The education of doctors in mold disease leads to health and true answers!

[@michelle-vl3me]

are there supplements that heal or at least help with mold disease? i would love to heal from it.

[@lorraine2761]

Please send ...more information on organ dysfunction to me

[@suzettebavier4412]

I absolutely love this doctor (Nathan)

[@taylorbates5669]

I wish you wouldn’t cut off your guests while they were talking.

[@dianathompson6400]

Thanks so much as this gave me some insight into past and present my health. I really need a coach that could listen to my health story as it goes. Now I know why I was recommended chromosodium and why baking soda is huge!😊

[@susan4789]

Wow that was excellent information!

[@thesmartestdoctorintheroom]

Glad you enjoyed the information.

[@1truthseeking8]

​@@thesmartestdoctorintheroom ever have anyone that has Achlorhydria that got over it AFTER they fixed their mold issues?

[@1truthseeking8]

​@@thesmartestdoctorintheroomwhat would you have someone that is unable to move do? Let's say they started treatment but slept in their car while the whole house was treated? (There is some company that does a whole house gas treatment?) and then would the person need to wear a mask while renovating house for deep areas like damaged roof structure, etc? Or is there "no point" in starting any treatment until there is a completely/consistent environment free of mold? Trying to figure out what to do in a real life scenario... Achlorhydria and it's Mom's house and she seems too brain fogged to MAKE A PLAN for getting roof replaced. So that further damage can be stopped. It's affected health on both. So it's kind of a sticky situation as if I seek a job away to get money to change circumstances I need to be strong enough and stable enough digestive function to get through the day...

[@1truthseeking8]

​@@thesmartestdoctorintheroom how would one know if one was likely too sensitive for a full dose of binder? 37:51 would it be better to independently try a small amount of activated charcoal and see where it causes issues before seeking treatment? Or?

[@daniellemroz5108]

I have interstitial cystitis and suffer mast cell issues. Also struggle to control viral infections. Terrible allergies. I can blow up instantly in total body hives its extremely scary and I immediately chew a benadryl. I do not let myself be without benadryl because it's such an emergency that happens so fast. I live a distance from hospital and I treat myself, had doctors look at me like I was crazy for being conserned over these hives that they themselves never seen. My mother said as an infant and baby I would have total body hives every morning, she would put me into the sun she say and it cleared. However I have always disliked the sun because it makes me feel sick. Not sure if it could be related, my mom says I was born with a big scrap down my head from a test they did sticking my moms belly with long needle in the womb. Personally I feel my mom being a cigarette smoker was what was causing it, my current hives no clue why or when. But very hypersensitive to all forms of cigarette smoke residue. When do what we can ,where we are, with what we have. What elese is there.

[@Bloodyninenightangel]

Have you looked into mold?

[@ollymounara605]

I just saw a video about vitamin D and mastcell activation. The reason the symptoms disappeared in the sun might have been because of vitamin D levels rising.

[@ollymounara605]

Smoking does restrict the body to get rid of histamine in certain pathways.

[@netto682]

Study boron and MSM / reposicao

[@netto682]

Dr jorge flechas

[@maxyazhbin826]

let your guest talk

[@Nursekimberlylane]

I’ve had Chronic Candida for 30 years and I seem to have cured it with a carnivore diet after 6 months. It was 80% better with meat and dairy and when I dropped liquid dairy and that took it completely away! I have been on diflucan for months at a time before and without diet change it was useless. It went away and came right back.

[@theresekirkpatrick3337]

I’m so sick. Last resort is mold testing but it’s so expensive and then the treatment is too. My bloodwork is perfect. I have liver pain yet nothing shows on my tests. I’ve cured h pie Laurie, geardia and both c diff 6 years ago and I’m still suffering. Exhausted, insomnia, chronic inflammation and brain fog and mucus are all terrible but mostly i feel like i have the flu 24-7. Also have multiple chemical sensitivities. I’m 56 been sick 8 years and I just want to quit. I can’t get to San Francisco. I’m in northern Arizona. 😢 did hair mineral analysis. Nothing significant showed up.

[@Jolei33]

Dr. Alan Guning teaches his patients how to treat this on a budget. Look him up and ways of self testing various bio toxins. My issues was some mold but other bio toxins and strong EMF was what I had to remove my family from. The HVAC is often overlooked. Our condo was clean from visual inspection but the HVAC on the balcony was full on bacteria. The night we left to a hotel we all felt better. Try to get away to a clean place for a couple weeks to see how you feel.

[@Justin-bb2hj]

Have you had igenex Lyme testing done? Also look into Candida..

[@theresekirkpatrick3337]

@@Justin-bb2hj yes I have negative on both. But thanks

[@SH-jg5zq]

Great guest

[@thomasstevenrothmbamd2384]

Wow! This discussion is excellent and especially timely because of the relevance to post-COVID syndromes which may be related to much of these issues due to at very least the transient SARS-COV-2 damage to the immune system allowing, for example, for chronic mold infections in the sinuses to become invasive fungal infections which may be a major cause of post-COVID syndromes.

[@eicrusade6161]

Do you doctors know how hard it is to find a healthy place to live especially if you are poor. I wish you could develop social services to help.

[@sharoncortes36]

I’ve moved at least nine times over the past year, $100k+ and sadly I live in a hurricane disaster area, (Lee County, FL.), while my moldy home sits vacant. Construction nowadays is pure negligent. I am finding mold in new constructions homes it’s pure pathetic 😔

[@majahorvat7294]

Great info, thanks.

[@suzettebavier4412]

New Subscriber here. Excellent episode

[@tonysantone7791]

How about Pectosol, I have been using it for 3 weeks now, Cant really tell yet. I have left hand tremor & vertigo along with restless sleep. I did test positive for high mold in urine.

[@DrToddFisher]

Listen Doc!

[@sarahb.6475]

This is really interesting conversation! 😊 learned a few new things too. Unfortunately I have a corn problem + corn is in everything. I am pretty sure I have MCAS. I do the skin writing test + the red line lasts 25 minutes. Plus I react to tons of things. Have been for years. Now the most recent thing is I cannot go into the library. 😐 it gives me breathing issues now. Uggh.

[@phyllisallen8311]

Please help!!! What can I take to heal from all of this!!!

[@vanessac1965]

Gold!

[@olivertuckerfrye3416]

I love Dr. Nathan but the host is so annoying... he interrupts way too much! And why he mentions Dr. Schumacher so much when Dr. Nathan has his own unique protocols- he should focus on his guest speakers expertise! If the host has a guest speaker let them speak instead of talking too much. If host wants to talk about himself /his experiences don't bring on a guest speaker. Also when speaker is talking don't say uhhum, yes. good point- wait till speaker is done. Host is poor listener/interviewer.

[@keithherington]

Drove me CRAZY! Just constantly interrupting, talking over him, veering off topic in the middle of a sentence while he's answering a question that was just asked. Terrible Host to say the least. I couldn't even get past 25 minutes because I was getting more and more irritated every time it happened. Just Terrible!

[@lynncontic2465]

I totally disagree. He had excellent questions, and in my opinion, it was very conversational.

[@darleenmarieramos]

I totally agree. I wish I could've been able to listen to Dr. Nathan well. All the information he had is so important for me and my specific case. The host only let him share his information. Like if it was on bullet points.

[@justinesimone5343]

You're right. He's impatient for his guest to finish speaking so he can be noticed! Should not be a host. A host allows the guest to be the star.

[@Vgallo]

Yeah but at least he wants to learn and help us, his intentions are noble and you should recognise this, he’s not interrupting to be rude, he’s interrupting cuz he’s eager to learn and help people like us, I would much rather drs like him than the ones I’ve health with, slightly annoying and helpful is better than a dr thays patronising gaslighting, unhelpful and not annoying

[@rossanajoubert4881]

Thank you!

[@Vgallo]

If I can learn about mold toxicity -WHY CANT DRS ITS THEIR GODDAMN JOB

[@Texasgirlinacrazyworld]

This! ❤

[@Vgallo]

Why don’t drs use nad? Without nad I’d be bedridden, thanks to nad I can work 6/7 days a week whilst having methane Sibo, mcas and mold toxicity. But no drs use it - why? I found it when I was trying to treat myself before I found any drs that believed me.

[@katerynaturchenko6937]

Thank you for the MCAS part. I realise it’s a vicious circle- when mast cells are flaring there’s no way we can treat mold until the immune system is stabilised. On the other hand, it cannot stabilise because mold is a piece of the puzzle. I’m personally stuck with different treatments that do not help much and necessity to get rid of mold toxicity. Do you treat mold in those who have been flaring for months/years despite being on multiple meds and very restrictive diets?

[@TheSharkPrankedGumboGeek]

Are there any doctors in Los Angeles who test & treat for mold toxicity?

[@sean13]

You talked a lot over the guest. Very Hard to Watch.

[@Hanna-s5j]

Would like to find a functional doctor in Uk , dealing with mold toxicity /mast cell activation syndrome. Please , iam absolutely desperate. Thanking you in advance.

[@knowone-sts2263]

You are rude. Stop interrupting your guests or nobody will want to podcast with you.

[@carenjohnson3174]

There are other interviews of Dr Nathan without the RELENTLESS INTERRUPTIONS. keep scrolling friends.

[@RogerMimi-yq2ny]

They didn’t talk about diet or high oxalates foods that should have been addresy

[@Martin.mattsson]

thanks

[@Sozo_inc]

How do I reach Dr. Nathan?

[@balnazzar123]

can you you nystatin for long periods of time as doctor mentions ? isn't that harmful like using antibiotics to kidneys ? or only 14 days treatment ?

[@temazosist]

Hello, I want you to explain you my case and ask you if you think I have mold toxicity problems. Around christmas I started to feel my ear very blocked, and lots of phlegm, facial pressure, and in general feeling ill. I went to the doctor and told me sinusitis and gave me antibiotics. It didnt work, I went back and they told me sometimes sinusitis takes time to go away. Then went to the ENT and did nasal endoscopy and he couldn't see anything wrong. Went to emergency room and they said I was all right. I went to so many doctors and shit. But it is been more than one month and I always have mucus, headaches, dizziness, anxiety attacks, one ear blocked, tinnitus, brain fog, derealization, forehead and temples pressure, skin rashes and itches, etc etc and it doesn't go away, it is making me depressed, it is affecting my life, my work and more important my relationship with my partner. But I can't find what it is, doctors refuse to do an allergy test and my Life is hell, I don't know what I have I had lots of mold in my window and I cleaned it, but the room still smells moldy, the curtains smells moldy and everyone tells me it is just stress/anxiety It is destroying my life Do tou think it is mold toxicity? And if so, what can I do to get my health back? I want to be myself again

[@melkor321]

I had same symptoms and in my case I'm sure it's mold toxicity cause i react on it. Did you become any worse or get stronger symptoms while or shortly after cleaning the mold? If not it could have been only dirt. I've been through same tests with doctors and they found nothing. If you find mold one place it good chance its other places too in the house. I would move or do those ermi test. I recommend Nathan's book: toxic, it's the best thing you can read if you have mold toxicity and maybe any chronic disease as well

[@athens31415]

One thing to consider is that not all mold is visible. Both environments that made me sick ended up having mold inside the walls (behind the shower, had to tear the tile off), and the other had mold in the HavAC system picked up from the crawl space underneath the house. It’s typically systemic mold that makes people sick, not small patches here and there because you once spilled a glass of water on a windowsill or forgot to throw away an apple.

[@athens31415]

You need to get out of the environment. If your symptoms get better when you go outside and you got back to feeling basically normal, then you know there’s a mold problem and you’re sick from mold. That’s how I can tell when mold is a problem.

[@sarahb.6475]

Get out of the moldy place. And go grain free. Many foods have mold in them too like grain.. Grain gives lots of people brain fog and all sorts of symptoms.

[@sailuvijl6621]

Yes definitely I had constant mucus drop I am so sick either move out n do remediation pls do testing take binders

[@benkugel3416]

What about anti fungals

[@Sozo_inc]

Great video. Quick question can drinking eating or using citruc acid powder or crystals which I learnt were grown in mold cause mold in the body or say yeast and candida overgrowth in the gut or systemic yeast infection Also can candida or a yeast infection in a woman have a clear painless vaginal discharge that behaves like incontinence meaning it drips down drop by deop then sometimed in a short stream almost like a monthly period everutime sugar is ingested?

[@1aliveandwell]

If Dr's and healthcare people like you people that actually help people , can you tell gov. entities like CDC, NIH... and medical schools (teach new Dr's, nurses...) would any those places listen? Is it the AMA that is problem? Am going to write to gov. reps and ... What helps most w reducing sensitivity to heat?? (

[@justincarlson2126]

Interrupting way too much…

[@DavidLee-qd7fw]

Is blue cheese contraindicated as it's a listed bacteria of concern

[@ollymounara605]

Cheese is fermented and thus it has high histamine. It will be a load to the body that needs to get rid of the histamine.

[@randont]

Bug hunters don't solve these problems. 99.9% of doctors just try to kill the bugs, I never works in advanced chronic cases.

[@dankrystyna7253]

Let him talk ,or why are you having guest if you don’t lessen to them or you are so rude that you don’t let them talk

[@collybeans586]

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[@benkugel3416]

Whis better klinghardt or nathan

[@kymberlybade1480]

Stop interrupting your guest! Very frustrating.

[@wladyslawjagiello]

Oh my gosh, this interviewer is very annoying by speaking over his guest!

[@Rcropan0909]

I just started this video and can’t continue. This starts out with a Dr talking about if you really want to get help. Really??? No thanks!

[@keylanoslokj1806]

I have mast cell activation

[@joannewannan1518]

The interview would be much better if the interviewer would shut up. Why have a guest and keep interrupting, and dominating the conversation, rather than listening to what he has to say. It’s not only annoying, it’s disrespectful to the person you’re interviewing.

[@netto682]

👏👏👏🇧🇷

[@sarahb.6475]

A statin every day??? 😮😮😮 Athletes do horrible on statins! They get horrid joint pain!! Uggh. No thanks to that!

[@songs-rj4qh]

Worst interviewer had to cut away you ruined it

[@Luke-jj9je]

Fantastic My friend!!! Become an online boss - P r o m o s m !!!

[@amielgarcia3784]

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