Dial Up Modem Sounds, 56K Edition

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Retrocet

Retrocet

Күн бұрын

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@izaixspace
@izaixspace 2 жыл бұрын
I find these so mesmerizing, I never used a modem in its days and I can only imagine how exiting (or slow) must've been to connect to the internet back when it was still a novelty :D
@SerenadeURA
@SerenadeURA 2 жыл бұрын
Exciting and slow, yes. On the bright side, most web pages were just text with images that would be considered microscopic at modern resolutions so the load times weren't actually so awful. There were forums where you'd get outright banned for posting animated GIFs because it would lag the entire thread. Good times!
@Tbird761
@Tbird761 2 жыл бұрын
It was really something special. You were part of a cool tech-oriented brotherhood in a time when regular people didn't even know what email was.
@SerenadeURA
@SerenadeURA 2 жыл бұрын
Regular people still act like they don't know what email is, sometimes...
@Autogenification
@Autogenification Жыл бұрын
@@Tbird761 yeah I kind of wish I grew up more in the 90s. The internet today seems mostly a corporate machine; long gone are the wild west days of creative freedom, brought about & innovated by parallel underground movements in tech, science, art etc. I mean it's brought around some good communications, legal, and other standards, and like... we get to enjoy this video on this well polished platform, but could this have been done with a less corporate outcome, I wonder. Web3 just seems like such a mechanistic farce of corporations monetizing that feeling we had about the shiny web1/2 innovations
@daMacadamBlob
@daMacadamBlob Жыл бұрын
My father says one thing he certainly does not miss about the 90s is its internet. He says it was slow, expensive, with far less information and possibilities than today. However, back then there were also more opportunities to make money from the internet itself since it all brand new. Since then there has been the Dot-Com bubble, outsourcing to India, and now ChatGPT.
@homg85
@homg85 Жыл бұрын
This transported me right back to 2002! Our cousins had internet in the 90s, so we were late to the game, but hearing this sound for the first time, in our own home, brought me immense joy!
@lucsirotouka
@lucsirotouka 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing these sounds, this brings back the pre-broadband experiences. From memory when my home modem could dial a 56K speed, the handshake sound is most like the Hayes V.90 one in this video. The sound from 2:35 to 2:37 sounds like it's struggling lol.
@IcySlavKat
@IcySlavKat 2 жыл бұрын
That sound from those timestamps indicates to the modems, both server and client, that a connection has been successfully established although in most cases with dial-up modems that sound usually isn't audible.
@kiisseli1337
@kiisseli1337 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how it was, but sounded a bit different. Same thing though.
@marlon2k9
@marlon2k9 2 жыл бұрын
Hayes V.90 is definitely the closest.
@hkvvvf
@hkvvvf 2 жыл бұрын
That sound called the DIL sequence which first appear on V.90 protocol. Difference chipset gave difference DIL sequence, the most famous were the Rockwell chipset which gave the "struggling" DIL sound that you mentioned. But the most interesting one must be the Texas Instrument chipset used by USRobotics modems which produce a "Bong...... Bong......" DIL sound.
@Slurkz
@Slurkz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for documenting this fascinating but thankfully vansished part of history. 💜 Listening to this captures the anticipation of connecting to the adventurous world I perceived the www to be at the time.
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening! I'm trying my best to capture these sounds for posterity. Eventually it'll be very difficult to ever recreate them!
@FoxRain616
@FoxRain616 Жыл бұрын
Bro the wait just to play flash games. Watching videos over and over while it buffered the next frame. Those were the good old days.
@truestbluu
@truestbluu 7 ай бұрын
not entirely sure if video sharing was all too popular since the internet speed was so slow
@CaptCovfefe515
@CaptCovfefe515 2 жыл бұрын
5:26 if you could turn the feeling of hitting your funnybone into a sound
@styledliving
@styledliving 7 ай бұрын
there were variations of this too. depending on your connection quality with the CO and your destination line. it’ll ping like sonar. vasili, one ping only, please.
@hunterduker2372
@hunterduker2372 Жыл бұрын
TNX for this video! More than 23 years last time i listened the X2 handshake TNX!!!!! 🙂
@hridaanansari8691
@hridaanansari8691 4 күн бұрын
As an avid enjoyer of dankpods and a undertaker in the networking and telecom industry, all I can say is that this is a good video.
@chrisfowler623
@chrisfowler623 2 жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid those sounds! Haha, nothing but a smile and so many memories. I remember learning about DSL and some individuals has ADSL and T1,T3 connections. Remember in last elementary school we finally got cable. My mind couldn’t understand going from KBs to MBs.
@manarkisan
@manarkisan 11 ай бұрын
omg ADSL. That's a string of letters I haven't seen or heard since I was a teenager in 2001-03 ish. Memories! It was a new and faster way to connect to the internet, my home did not have ADSL though... then LAN took over as the better way to connect to the internet. Let's just say my home didn't upgrade from dial-up until sometime after wifi was an established and a preferred way to connect to the internet.
@maxvideodrome4215
@maxvideodrome4215 7 ай бұрын
24oo baud was the sound at my house when I was a kid - BBSes - I remember upgrading to a 14.4kbps and was blown away with how fast the terminal window drew!
@jorgon22
@jorgon22 Жыл бұрын
Hearing that K56 flex tone brought me straight back to being a kid, waiting 25 minutes for a game to load on the cartoon network site only for someone to ring the home phone and mess it all up, damn, got me feeling old af Weird I had no idea at the time what type of modem or internet connection we even had yet I recognise it instantly
@cheath8705
@cheath8705 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot ALL about those softmodems. I probably had 1 or 2 in my lifetime. I always tried to stick with modems with built in controller, keeping the load off the cpu. Last modem I had before moving on to DSL was 3M USR 56k internal and it had a dedicated controller built in. Loved it. Sad to see it go but time to move on.
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember avoiding them because they hurt gaming performance, especially on older machines. I'm finding that they're still kinda crap, even with a modern processor though. I tend to get more consistent performance out of my external V.92 USR modem than I get out of the USB one. It's not entirely clear to me how much age is affecting these devices though - I actually did a full re-cap of one of my V.92 modems that was connecting more slowly than a very similar one, but it didn't seem to make any measurable difference.
@athstreamsandmore
@athstreamsandmore Жыл бұрын
As a Linux user we called Softmodems something else. We called them WinModems.
@cheath8705
@cheath8705 Жыл бұрын
@@athstreamsandmore - I used to call them that too. I think I picked up softmodem term somewhere. ;)
@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem
@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem 7 ай бұрын
bluds have the worst cpu that he needed to move the load
@phlydude
@phlydude Жыл бұрын
those V.90 sounds sure do bring back memories followed by "Welcome....You've Got Mail" - funny how when you were trying to get the 53.3 connection to work, if one of the numbers you dialed sounded funny or gave one of the error correction tones, you'd kill it and grab a new line and try a new number. We knew that error was unstable and we would likely get kicked off while trying to find someone new to meet in the local chat room after asking A/S/L. 🤣
@FriendlyMexican2005
@FriendlyMexican2005 2 жыл бұрын
2:34 My neurons processing my moves in the morning.
@sonicunleashedfan124
@sonicunleashedfan124 Жыл бұрын
For the Intel modem, I was half expecting the V.90 DIL portion to use the Intel jingle (or at least a portion of it). Good video
@metro03
@metro03 2 жыл бұрын
A fellow DankPods viewer, I see. But really tho, this video is really interesting. I enjoyed it!
@cmonkey63
@cmonkey63 2 жыл бұрын
That takes me back... didn't get broadband until 2005. At one time I owned one of those Xircom modems, the one that fits into a slot in the laptop.
@jsatv7443
@jsatv7443 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Sharing. Nice Profile picture by the way.
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@rictorn0
@rictorn0 Жыл бұрын
I never had any separate modems for dial up, at least from what I remember as a kid. We just had a PCI modem that was placed in the computer. A new area we moved to didn't have DSL at least and was just dial up, until may be a year or so later I heard from an old neighbor they now got DSL. Don't have much to add really, but one service had a time limit after may be 4 hours or so. Started to learn the process of not clicking on anything when I know the time is about to be up. You never knew pain until you see it takes 10 hours to download iTunes.
@TimeWisely
@TimeWisely Жыл бұрын
This was a 10/10 video, but once frank the snake made his debut this became a 20/10 video. All jokes aside, this is very interesting sounds to hear, Kind of satisfying to be completely honest, thanks for making this.
@randomexcessmemories4452
@randomexcessmemories4452 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I'd love to have a setup like this to mess around with. And is that Frank the Snake from Dankpods?
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
It sure is ;)
@lwgrazi
@lwgrazi 2 жыл бұрын
amazing two fellow dankpods watchers
@N1ko0L
@N1ko0L 2 жыл бұрын
Wut where?
@lwgrazi
@lwgrazi 2 жыл бұрын
@@N1ko0L last 5 seconds it loads in
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
She's also featured in ASCII form in the previous video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpLPhXl-as2nY80
@XENON2028
@XENON2028 2 жыл бұрын
wait thats frank from dankpods?? dude best channel ever!
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Aye, that's her!
@XENON2028
@XENON2028 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet lets go! snakes are the best animals and dankpods is one of the best youtube channels :)
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm a big fan of Dankpods, and Frank is super cute. She's in the non-56K one as well, in ASCII form!
@XENON2028
@XENON2028 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet niceee
@JMein13074
@JMein13074 2 жыл бұрын
I must've lived in too rural of an area. Because I remember the second half of the connection noises repeating to confirm stability.
@failing2improve17
@failing2improve17 2 жыл бұрын
I love this! I also love the 500CDT you used, I have a 510CDT and it's a great laptop.
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Tecra 500CS back in the day! I opted for the nicer screen and CD drive when I decided to buy it again though ;) I love that machine to bits. That whole line of machines was super solid.
@Mrhellacat
@Mrhellacat 2 жыл бұрын
would love to find a tecra! ive got a 490 and a 320 right now
@masterpootisman3500
@masterpootisman3500 2 жыл бұрын
5:26 This is most interesting part of the sound, sounds like it's blinking if was correct?
@lainamitclaire
@lainamitclaire 2 жыл бұрын
I believe from what Retrocet has said on other videos that this is just a sound made to signify the connection is good, and that most companies just kind of do whatever sound they want. Sometimes it's a bell, sometimes it's like just a beep, and for my grandmother it was a weird phone ringing sound.
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
That's called the V.90 Digital Impairment Learning sequence (DIL). I've got a bit written about it in the description, but the short version is that it's a set of sounds sent by the server modem at the request of the client modem used to analyze how the digital signal is being handled, which is then used to adjust the connection speed. The sounds themselves aren't part of the V.90 spec, rather it just specifies that the client modem should request what it wants. As a result, each model of modem sounds a little different! The one you've linked there is a pretty distinctive example of the Agere soft modems, which became very common in the late dialup era, so they're very recognizable :)
@FairPlay137
@FairPlay137 2 жыл бұрын
The "sonar-like" (also known as the echoing bip) DIL sequence is actually one of the more interesting ones since not only does it have a fixed non-random waveform, but it has a fast variant for V.92's Quick Connect feature (which is probably only possible due to the fixed waveform).
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that different variant of the DIL for V.92 (for some modems) is why I'm getting a V.92-capable modem for the server-side. I'd really like to record it and maybe do some comparison. Fedex should be delivering it tomorrow!
@weirdsciencetv4999
@weirdsciencetv4999 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this takes me back
@MattsInTheBelfry
@MattsInTheBelfry 2 жыл бұрын
I can already see the dancing baby
@colinstu
@colinstu Жыл бұрын
2:33 what's going on with the sound here?
@AntiShadman6969
@AntiShadman6969 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes its different like this one 5:27 And it simply indicates that the connection has been regulated successfully and the modems can transfer data after the signal
@colinstu
@colinstu 2 ай бұрын
@@AntiShadman6969I’ve since discovered that that section/tone specifically for feature called the Digital Impairment Learning sequence (DIL). Depending on the modem chipset it would make a series of gong sounds or it would do this sound. Part of v90 spec
@claypapa
@claypapa 2 жыл бұрын
sooo classic. I still remember when I got my 28.8k modem :)
@KatTheFoxtaur
@KatTheFoxtaur 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the sound I remember best was the Hayes V.90. Basically every 56k modem I used back in the day had that same kind of handshake sound. I don't recall much of what the sound was like from my 14.4k or 33.6k modems, but I know that I had 56k for the longest amount of the time that we had dial-up internet, which we first got in 1994. I do recall that the length/delay/timing of some of the test tones were a bit different, but they were the same tones.
@SubaruB4RSK
@SubaruB4RSK Жыл бұрын
Why does the Hayes modem sound different? I only had a external USR 56k and a software modem.
@codycarreras4825
@codycarreras4825 Жыл бұрын
Yup same here. I’d always be sitting there listening, “ah damn it’s gonna log me in at like 30,000bps right now” or “ohh yeah that sounds like a good connection 49,998bps”.
@KatTheFoxtaur
@KatTheFoxtaur 10 ай бұрын
@@SubaruB4RSK Because of the handshake / line testing sounds, certain parts are very distinct from the others.
@andrive
@andrive 2 жыл бұрын
I am addicted to these Subscribed
@steeviebops
@steeviebops 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the K56Flex handshake well. What purpose does the tone at 0:44 have? I once had a Conexant V.90 modem that still responded to that when most others ignore it.
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
It's a V.8bis transaction! The modems are giving each other a list of things they support, and then selecting the best option that is common between them before starting the actual handshake. I don't think most V.90 modems bother with it. Even the Zoom 56K modem in that clip will ignore it if I've set it to only use V.90, whereas it responds if K56 Flex is enabled.
@jmziprick1
@jmziprick1 2 жыл бұрын
Really love your videos, nice seeing that there are other people who are just as fascinated by old tech as I am lol. Any chance you could do a video on configuring your setup? I've got a lot of the same hardware connected to a Windows 2003 server I've been working on getting configured when I have free time.
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a couple videos on this now! I'm trying to decide how to break them down, as the one about just setting up modems is already getting long, so it may be a 'connecting modems together' video and then a 'configuring your machines' video, with both Linux and Windows servers covered.
@jmziprick1
@jmziprick1 2 жыл бұрын
​@@retrocet Sweet!
@yjfboys
@yjfboys 2 жыл бұрын
this let me recollect my memories from connecting to BBS by DOS, then Windows 95 time, "Where are you want to go, today?" Netscape, IE3.0 IE4.0, 4.12 Windows 95 OSR2.... etc...
@RavingPegasus
@RavingPegasus 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that's the fastest handshake I've ever heard! 0:04
@hkvvvf
@hkvvvf 2 жыл бұрын
On those days, USRobotics really expertise on developing 56K protocol. x2 protocol was really cool with fast handshake and connection (mostly 53333 bps). K56flex protocol was somewhat looks like less advanced to me due to long handshake and usually obtained slower connection speed.
@TaylorChildAkaWeapon
@TaylorChildAkaWeapon 2 жыл бұрын
Loving these vids!!
@Ambipie
@Ambipie 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do one for the sound where the modem doesn't get an answer/an answer so bad that it can't connect? I'm gonna be real with you: for music
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to take a shot at faking a 'bad' connection to get exactly this sort of thing. I'll post it if/when I do!
@steeviebops
@steeviebops 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet Could you use an attenuator of some sort?
@Mike-77-YT
@Mike-77-YT Жыл бұрын
Can you maybe try out a 128k connection? I believe there are some ISDN server modems that operate at that protocol, as well as certain modems.
@mykolapliashechnykov8701
@mykolapliashechnykov8701 Жыл бұрын
The tech was called IDSL. Was somewhat popular in Ukraine, you had to buy a pair of modems and gift them to the phone company. Offered about 112 kbit/s throughput, lower if a phone was on the line. AFAIK the modems lacked the speaker so no fancy handshake sounds.
@gcolombelli
@gcolombelli 9 күн бұрын
ISDN / BRI uses line codes, digital stuff, not really like those analog modems encoding digital data as sound. DSL puts data transmission way above our hearing range.
@stam1ska
@stam1ska 2 жыл бұрын
The client part wasn't amplified enough so we heard only two DIL sequences, Hayes and Agere :(
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the middle of rerecording with a pass though an Asterisk server so I can record the two sides separately. Once I'm done moving I'll hopefully get a video out with the more detailed recording
@Gebora
@Gebora 2 жыл бұрын
of all the things im nostalgic for im really glad we no longer have to commun with the under world to access the internet
@Bluethunderboom
@Bluethunderboom Жыл бұрын
Was it possible to use pulse dial on dial up modem?
@retrocet
@retrocet Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! You just use the ATDP command instead of ATDT.
@Bluethunderboom
@Bluethunderboom Жыл бұрын
@retrocet On the other hand, since I have the intercom box for telephone, will it work to do four numbers instead of eleven numbers?
@retrocet
@retrocet Жыл бұрын
Yep! Works for any number of digits (up to some very large limit anyway)
@RJARRRPCGP
@RJARRRPCGP 2 жыл бұрын
The second one has the tone like TDS' response. (0:44) Which seems to make the negotiation longer. SoVerNet (now defunct) never did that, IIRC.
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think you're referring the the V.8bis transaction ahead of the actual negotiation. Only my Dialfire 2977 does it, and it disables V.8bis if I disable K56 Flex. Based on that, I suspect that you'd only hear it if you were calling an ISP with K56 Flex enabled.
@RJARRRPCGP
@RJARRRPCGP 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet TDS was replying with that in 2003!
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't surprise me! The V.92 RAS I just picked up was made around then and still has K56 Flex support ;)
@tubeDude48
@tubeDude48 2 жыл бұрын
Should have added a *Racal-Vadic* modem as well. I worked for them in Silicon Valley '85 to '89
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Any particular model you'd like to hear? I haven't got one in the collection, but they look reasonably obtainable!
@tubeDude48
@tubeDude48 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet - The 2400PA & the 9600PA I help design both between '85 thru '89.
@gargapista
@gargapista Жыл бұрын
The "true" 56k connection only works with both side ISDN (digital) modems?,Or would it work if one side is ISDN and the other analog?
@retrocet
@retrocet Жыл бұрын
Actually the 56K here is a digital modem with the other side being an analog modem. The second ISDN modem on the table is just acting like the local node converting the analog call to a digital one - it's not actually taking part in the data transmission or anything.
@joshm264
@joshm264 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely the wrong place to ask, but I can't figure this out by myself. I saw on the reddit post you linked in one of your other videos that you use the Grandstream HT802, and on mine I can't get more than a 9600 baud connection, are there any settings you recommend?
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Sure! First thing, I've had much better luck with VoIP providers where I have a low ping to the sip server. The one I use now is around 10ms round trip from me, and produces pretty good results. As for settings, there are obviously a boatload of them, so I'll only include the ones that I'm fairly certain are the ones that matter for modems below: Use First Matching Vocoder in 200OK SDP: No Preferred Vocoder: Set all of them to PCMU (if in North America), or PCMA (if in Europe) Voice Frames Per TX: 1 VAD: No Symmetric RTP: No Fax Mode: Pass-Through Re-Invite After Fax Tone Detected: Disabled Jitter Buffer Type: Fixed Jitter Buffer Length: High (I go back and forth on this, sometimes I feel like Low is best, play around a bit) SRTP Mode: Disabled (if you're worried about security though, maybe enable this) SLIC Setting: Depends on your device, but I use USA 1 for my devices which are generally USA/Canada Using this I can get full V.34 (generally 31,200) to Level 29 BBS and I'm even able to establish V.90 connections to a nearby ISP. Remember though, if the _other_ end is also on VoIP it'll be harder to get a good connection, especially if they haven't been as careful about setting it up as you have. Good luck!
@joshm264
@joshm264 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet thank you very much for replying, I'll have to try these when I get home! Edit: I changed them and I was able to get past 20K this time, thank you for the help!
@itstheweirdguy
@itstheweirdguy 2 жыл бұрын
That Agere USB modem dials like a boss
@FlatEarthDisciple
@FlatEarthDisciple Жыл бұрын
lol. I remember having my home office PC setup to call and download my email and then hangup before I got home. 😂
@repatch43
@repatch43 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, save the best for last! That's the one I remember so well!
@LondenTower
@LondenTower Жыл бұрын
Aww, Frank! You cute little snek you! (I actually watch Dankpods, so i've seen her a few times. Wade would be proud to see that picture of her coming into view on that webbrowser.)
@jaedenspider877
@jaedenspider877 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day my dad used to have like a box full of DSL filters cuz that's how bad the DSL problem was
@lorylory_it782
@lorylory_it782 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain how to create a 56k server?
@jphgamer1468
@jphgamer1468 6 ай бұрын
Where could i possibly find the software for the Dialogic Diva card. I cant find it anywhere
@Reinhard96
@Reinhard96 23 күн бұрын
The Agere sounds closest to what I had with dial up last I used it. Dunno probably did have it if AT&T ever used something like that.
@vsharun
@vsharun Жыл бұрын
Fantastic job mate. Exactly year ago I focused on the same idea, but all-cisco backhaul: C2811 w VIC3-2FXS replaced then with VIC3-4FXS (VIC2/VIC1-FXS cards has inferior DAC quality and 44k limited) + E1/T1 WVIC and AS5300 w/MICA modems as a V.90/V.92 digital modem provider. Got fairly stable 54666/31200 V.90/V.92, no digital uplink V.92 support unfortunately with MICA modem at all. USRobotics Courier and Sportsters are the top performers, with ZyXell NEO next.
@DeadSpecimen
@DeadSpecimen 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! So I'm a youngin who's been looking into dial-up stuff and I noticed, on the K56 Flex at the very beginning of the handshake it included what I think is the sounds that determine accepted transmission standards? Regardless of what it is, why did only that modem include that sound? I figured it was a requirement but given no other modem had it it seems if anything like an extra thing. Thanks and sorry if this comment was wordy 😅
@MidiMaze178
@MidiMaze178 2 жыл бұрын
that’s the sound of the v.8bis transaction specifically-on the K56 Flex you couldn’t turn it off, but on most other modems you could, and doing so saved a few seconds when you were trying to connect. the perks of v.8bis over regular v.8 often weren’t enough to warrant the extra amount of time it took, it’s just a slightly larger array of connection types that it can support for very uncommon cases that the average user would not encounter
@MidiMaze178
@MidiMaze178 2 жыл бұрын
you can hear a majority of these modems deciding the transmission standards during the echo cancellation tone rather than before it
@DeadSpecimen
@DeadSpecimen 2 жыл бұрын
@@MidiMaze178 Thank you so much!
@segaking5846
@segaking5846 Жыл бұрын
That moment when alot happens in a small timespan and you have to process it all
@strider5964
@strider5964 2 жыл бұрын
You seem to be an expert on modems so I figured I'd ask. What would cause a handshake to fail? (I thought you'd know because I have an old USR Sportster modem that for whatever reason never completes a handshake)
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
There are lots of possible reasons that a handshake could fail, but I bet we can suss out which it is. I'd be more inclined to blame the phone line connecting the modems than the modem itself. Are either you or the other end of the connection using a VoIP phone line? Often times these use audio proxies that aren't super friendly for making modem connections, particularly high speed ones. What happens is that the modem tries higher speeds, and gradually steps down - e.g. it might start at V.90, then drop to V.34, then to V.32, etc. The problem is that there is a timer that defines how long the modem will wait for a connection before giving up, and sometimes it expires before your modem finds a connection mode that'll work. By default this is 60s on most Sportsters - you can check your value by running the command `ATS7?`. You can try to set this to a higher value (for example, run `ATS7=120` to double it). This timer-expires-before-it-can-make-a-connection issue can also happen on noisy or damaged traditional phone lines. Another possibility is that the modem has settings saved that disable certain connection types/parameters that the other modem requires. There are dip switches on the modem that'll indicate if it should use NVRAM or factory settings on startup. If it's on the NVRAM setting you could try putting the modem back to 'factory' settings. Run `AT&F1` to load the defaults, and then `AT&W0` to save them. Then give the connection another shot. Getting into less likely possibilities, the power supply you're using might be insufficient for the modem to operate. I have an early-generation 28800 Sportster that requires a 20VAC power supply, while every other Sporster in my collection uses either 9VAC or 12VAC. The weird thing is that the one that needs 20V starts up and even dials with a 12V supply, but then resets itself while trying to connect. Took me a while to figure that one out since it didn't come with a power supply. One more is that the modem _might_ have bad capacitors. That said, I own 15+ Sportsters, and none have ever required recapping. It's not impossible, but it's unlikely.
@strider5964
@strider5964 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet Alright, thanks! I'm trying to connect to NetZero's dial up servers but for whatever reason it won't connect. I'm glad it's not the modem. I assume it's probably NetZero's modems that aren't working.
@soup_fetcher_boi
@soup_fetcher_boi 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet are you dankpods
@hkvvvf
@hkvvvf 2 жыл бұрын
The chips on USR Sportster modems always sucks, but the chips on USR Courier modems work well with fast and stable connections.
@AvidSurvivalist
@AvidSurvivalist Жыл бұрын
2:40 Haha that remind me of what I grew up hearing when trying to get on the internet. I had a 56k modem in my parents Gateway, but I was lucky to get 14.4k
@Santia558
@Santia558 Жыл бұрын
What equipment did you use and how was it setup in order to support 56K in house? I know 56K needs digital from the ISP back to analog, so more than just two general modems must be used. I’d be interested in setting up a 90s dialup recreation for myself. Thanks.
@Seacat17
@Seacat17 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to build DIY version of V.90 or V.30 or at least 300 baud modem?
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan Жыл бұрын
The Agere's DIL sounds really different... More melodious...
@samjeremiah8775
@samjeremiah8775 2 жыл бұрын
Frank the snake?? From Garbage Stream?
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
I know her from Dankpods, but same Frank ;)
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 2 жыл бұрын
Wait no Practical Peripherals mini?
@mattcrooke8321
@mattcrooke8321 Жыл бұрын
These are the noises of the 90’s!!!
@Reinhard96
@Reinhard96 23 күн бұрын
And early 2000s. Didn't get DSL until 06'. Not because it wasn't available, just bloody expensive.
@tbok75
@tbok75 2 жыл бұрын
I was on limited funds during these times. All my modems were hayes, that 33.6 and 56k were what i could afford at 17.
@kelvinstokes996
@kelvinstokes996 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow, an Armada M300! I had one of those for a few years - seriously nice computer, for its time!
@acxyz1107
@acxyz1107 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to feature V.92 aswell?
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
It is now! I just got my hands on a Patton 2960/24 RAS that supports V.92. None of the cards I had prior to this supported anything above V.90, and it's taken some doing to get my hands on V.92-capable gear. I'll put something together once I have it up and running!
@acxyz1107
@acxyz1107 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet Thank you so much!
@poppylover2586
@poppylover2586 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t get to hear the Bong Bong sound!
@Mrhellacat
@Mrhellacat 2 жыл бұрын
great video! sounds great direct from the phone line. are you having them communicate on one wire?
@mackagg4582
@mackagg4582 2 жыл бұрын
5:44 dankpods moment
@kleinerhalflife
@kleinerhalflife 2 жыл бұрын
frank
@stevenpavelish6017
@stevenpavelish6017 Жыл бұрын
Dialup is awesome!
@unlokia
@unlokia 12 күн бұрын
Hayes is my ❤favourite
@SerenadeURA
@SerenadeURA 2 жыл бұрын
tfw you have to ask dad for permission to get on the internet because it ties up the phone line
@ctkatz
@ctkatz Жыл бұрын
to me, this is what the internet sounds like.
@jelle-tje6064
@jelle-tje6064 Ай бұрын
Totally. Childhood memories.
@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r
@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that this was actually the sound that played. I'm curious about the story behind it, was it a technical issue or a purposeful thing? We need answers
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
I think I should probably try to put together a video explaining this since there have been a number of questions about it. Absent that though the answer is that the sounds are a mix of encoded data used to negotiate the connection, as well as some test tones to determine the quality of the phone line connection between the modems. All of it has a specific purpose and meaning!
@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r
@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet Interesting, you should definitely do something on it even if its a short video. I'm sure alot of us are curious about how it works
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r I've put up the first video of a series that will cover this topic. Check it out if you're interested!
@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r
@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrocet yeah I saw it in my notifications. I currently have exams but I'll have a 5 day break after today, so I'll definitely watch it
@ultima199g
@ultima199g 2 жыл бұрын
Where is V.92?
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still working on getting server side V.92 gear. It's not proving easy, unfortunately. :(
@ShwappaJ
@ShwappaJ 10 ай бұрын
My ranking of all of them, based on how fast they connect: x2 (by a massive landslide) Agere USB Softmodem Xircom Hayes Intel Zoom Lucent Softmodem Creative Labs US Robotics K56
@XENON2028
@XENON2028 2 жыл бұрын
very nice!
@MA-naconitor
@MA-naconitor 2 жыл бұрын
Is that Dank’s Frank?
@retrocet
@retrocet 2 жыл бұрын
Aye!
@GianlucaPicco
@GianlucaPicco 2 жыл бұрын
would you believe me that sometime when i'm talking trough my mobile phone i hear something like that... now i kinda understand that the infrastructure of my operator is done whit old stuff LOL
@dj9volt
@dj9volt Жыл бұрын
Let me guess the creative labs modem was named the modem blaster 😂
@retrocet
@retrocet Жыл бұрын
100% it was! I have the box and everything.
@Milan____
@Milan____ 2 жыл бұрын
GAH! Internet Explorer! Kill it with fire!
@HadiSudanto
@HadiSudanto Жыл бұрын
when ping has sound back then
@2Brian
@2Brian Жыл бұрын
wee waah woooshshshsh blop blop ... WELCOME!!! YOU'VE GOT MAIL!!
@nikacola7319
@nikacola7319 Жыл бұрын
AT+MS=v34!
@Wagoo
@Wagoo 2 жыл бұрын
Death to softmodems!! Thanks for the vid :)
@Chiavaccio
@Chiavaccio 2 жыл бұрын
😆😆👏👏👏👏👏👏💯 sweet years😆
@yalekthelembine0391
@yalekthelembine0391 Жыл бұрын
Agere has the coolest one
@Reinhard96
@Reinhard96 23 күн бұрын
It's also probably the newest one, as it reminds me of when I last interacted with dial up.
@shalpp
@shalpp 2 жыл бұрын
Frank? Is that Ozzie frank
@wdowa94
@wdowa94 11 ай бұрын
Ah. No full handshake :(
@rrrohan2288
@rrrohan2288 Жыл бұрын
i dont get why this is a flex those speeds are trash
@Computer-72usHK
@Computer-72usHK Ай бұрын
Son get off the Internet I’m making a phone call!
@fantaslurp
@fantaslurp 2 жыл бұрын
i lovr getting tipsy and autoplaying these videos
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