Dialogue Mistakes New Writers Make ❌ Avoid These Cringeworthy Cliches!!

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Abbie Emmons

Abbie Emmons

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@ViEdits00
@ViEdits00 Жыл бұрын
Your books are amazing and you are one of my favorite authors!! These videos teach me to improve my writing skills!! Thank you!
@unicorntomboy9736
@unicorntomboy9736 Жыл бұрын
How do you show and convey to the audience that your protagonist is introverted? I need to figure this out for my novel I am working on
@ViEdits00
@ViEdits00 Жыл бұрын
@@unicorntomboy9736 Well is your book in first person point view? That helps me a lot with my characters internal conflict. It digs deep into your characters feelings, thoughts and ideas.
@notjohncena6492
@notjohncena6492 Жыл бұрын
​@@unicorntomboy9736you already know the answer. Show not tell. Which means to make them act introverted For eg:- reject invitations to anywhere outdoors. Do not communicate much, no communication to new people Hell go nuts and make them semi introverted like acts cool when with people they know but when a person outside the circle joins they head inside their shell like a turtle. Etc etc search google introverted personality characteristics etc Hell one of the biggest examples is eleven in last season of stranger things kind of i think or is it cus she's shy and didnt have much human interaction in her younger days
@unicorntomboy9736
@unicorntomboy9736 Жыл бұрын
@@ViEdits00 No, it's intended to be in third person pov
@ViEdits00
@ViEdits00 Жыл бұрын
​@@unicorntomboy9736 Do you want to write better internal conflict in third person pov?
@Maerahn
@Maerahn Жыл бұрын
I am SO guilty of the last one! I've even given it a name for when it crops up in my writing - 'Thunderbird Puppet Syndrome.' It's where they're all doing so much nodding, eyebrow-raising, side-smiles, hand-waving, frowns, wide eyes, etc. that they just end up looking like Thunderbird puppets bobbing around. Action beats are my crack cocaine, but at least now I'm more aware of it. 🙂
@RedpurrFox
@RedpurrFox Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, and then it would be like: "Kent, I know you cheated on the test." Violet said, a small smile on her face. Kent's eyes widened, just for a minute, until he forced himself into a calm expression. "What do you mean? I didn't cheat." He laughed with a clearly forced laugh. Violet shook her head. "I found the paper Kent. You cheated." Kent's eyes were wide. "That's.. I.." He closed his eyes, shaking his head. Yeah, it sucks when that happens, I feel like my characters are like robots then, programmed to do the few movements lol
@NatGeodeWild
@NatGeodeWild Жыл бұрын
yep... I'm definetly really bad at that too
@Maerahn
@Maerahn Жыл бұрын
@@RedpurrFox uurrgghhh, I have *actually written whole scenes that look like that!* [Buries face in keyboard from shame.]
@RedpurrFox
@RedpurrFox Жыл бұрын
@@Maerahn I wrote fanfictions like that in the past. They were short and crappy with tons of grammar mistakes, oh how painful it was to read
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 Жыл бұрын
@@Maerahncookie [kicks a child]
@victor7021
@victor7021 Жыл бұрын
To avoid conflict dumping it's like "Don't write your dialogue as if your characters have Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth around their necks." 🤣
@jacindaellison3363
@jacindaellison3363 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant example!
@8QueenArt8
@8QueenArt8 Жыл бұрын
BAD EXAMPLE: I am sad. That made me mad. That really made me happy. I am super scared now. I am too worried about it. INSTEAD MAKE THEM INFER BY NON-STRAIGHTFORWARD DIALOG. EXAMPLE: my feet felt heavy. I had butterflies. I felt like I wanted to be swallowed whole. I felt as if I had music in my head. I feel like I’m going to pop.
@juanmanuelmoramontes3883
@juanmanuelmoramontes3883 Жыл бұрын
​@@8QueenArt8I think it should have a balance, one can be pretty bland and the other might come off as overly flowery, I'd interchange.
@BabyNoob270
@BabyNoob270 10 ай бұрын
​@8QueenArt8 I'm not poetic, I'm gonna think that character has butterflies when they say "I have butterflies"
@LightPinkGamer5
@LightPinkGamer5 10 ай бұрын
@@8QueenArt8the worst thing to say is “I feel bad” in a situation where they don’t feel guilt, just sadness
@durona
@durona Жыл бұрын
Nothing takes me out of a story faster than when a character narrates their inner thoughts out loud 😬 Great video, Abby!
@davescave7267
@davescave7267 Жыл бұрын
What about journal format?
@durona
@durona Жыл бұрын
@@davescave7267 Obviously that's a little different, but like Abby said the language can be played with in such a way that the character says more in what they don't say, even if it's a journal.
@rivendells_shona
@rivendells_shona Жыл бұрын
What about when it’s a quirk to that specific character (mirroring an IRL person who has a bad habit of talking to themselves or their pets when no one else is around?). Basically it’s part of their individual character voice (but not something the other characters do). I confess I’ve always chuckled when running into a character like that (in book or film). “I feel seen!” 🤪. (Admittedly, it’s more of an internal monologue than a dialogue…)
@durona
@durona Жыл бұрын
@@rivendells_shona Even then there are ways to do it that won't feel artificial. What bothers me is when a character too self-aware that they know every little thing about themselves. It's one thing to talk to a pet about your day; it's a whole other thing to narrate to your pet like the title crawl in Star Wars 😅
@princessnahema
@princessnahema Жыл бұрын
like in a soap opera
@Ykibmh
@Ykibmh Жыл бұрын
Ok, but why do I like the one with excessive tags? It's so much more dramatic than something faster.
@inspireme5698
@inspireme5698 10 ай бұрын
So did I! I felt like it made me use my imagination more rather than feeling like I'm at the movie theater (or watching a play) & everything is already on screen, i.e facial expressions, body language etc. w/ nothing to figure out or imagine. I love details. Guess I'm not part of the "hurry up" world.🤷🏽‍♀️ To me it's only slow if you actually read slow, which I don't. Oh well.
@valentinarkoff967
@valentinarkoff967 8 ай бұрын
I feel that the extensive tasks bring a more intimate framing to the scene, I like it. It amplifies the emotions of the character. To me, with the extensive tags she sounded genuinely concerned and worried for her friend. Whereas with shorter tags, it seemed more like a daily chitchat or a small banter
@inspireme5698
@inspireme5698 8 ай бұрын
@@valentinarkoff967 Agreed!
@Dragonfruitinspace
@Dragonfruitinspace 6 ай бұрын
Why do I feel the same like I prefer have a lot of descriptive information in the scenes I like seeing the scenes in all their glory I want to see the subtle movements it just makes my brain more attached to every page
@willywonka6487
@willywonka6487 6 ай бұрын
because you have bad taste
@chrispalmer7893
@chrispalmer7893 Жыл бұрын
I have an issue with critiques like “people don’t talk like this” because people are far too diverse and interesting for that to be true and some people are just weird. Chances are there’s someone out there that does talk like that. “That character wouldn’t say that”, however, that’s a real problem…
@saramations
@saramations Жыл бұрын
It's not about exceptions. It's more about writing something that's not dogshit obnoxious to read and it's logical to the context of the scene.
@hyunniewan350
@hyunniewan350 Жыл бұрын
Yes, each person has their own way to talk, but she's really tagging the beginner writing. I remember reading a lot of texts from beginners, and ALL THE CHARACTERS would always say exactly what they were feeling. I think that's what she was talking about when she said "people don't talk like this".
@chrispalmer7893
@chrispalmer7893 Жыл бұрын
@@hyunniewan350 I was purely commenting on the specific argument “people don’t talk like that”. Every character speaking with the same voice is a different complaint, and like the one I acknowledged above (that character wouldn’t say that) is a perfectly valid criticism.
@hyunniewan350
@hyunniewan350 Жыл бұрын
@@chrispalmer7893 yeah!
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB Жыл бұрын
Seriously, especially with “use subtext” like dude, some people think and talk literally.
@Lilitha11
@Lilitha11 Жыл бұрын
In regard to the dialogue tags, the important thing is to keep it dynamic and interesting. It isn't 'boring description' if it is action, or building suspense, or is serving a purpose to the scene. If someone pulls out a gun, or shoves someone in the middle of the conversation, those are things you definitely you want to describe. You can also create a very tense situation even with slow paced scenes with a lot of description. Like if you know a person has a gun, and they keep sliding their hands down under the table during the scene, and you draw attention to that. The main thing here is, it needs a purpose and it should be interesting.
@gamewriteeye769
@gamewriteeye769 Жыл бұрын
POV and tense play a role too. Sure, you could write them identically, but depending on the narrator, a past tense pov is not going to recall all the events as fondly as a present moment-moment narrator. And the key is that “moment-moment” working and doing its job. One thing that does fail to engage me in material I've read is when its a white room syndrome and there is no description-only dialogue. And what can kill it if its too slow is just taking the describe every pointless detail. Start removing those, but keep what matters so you can still visualize it, and don't forget setting plays an important role to describe too. Every example mentioned in Abbey's video here makes this mistake-where is Violet and Kent? Simple things like this as a scene plays out being added still makes it "punchy", if not moreso if there's subtext and nuance to it, too. Maybe the room is darkly lit? Maybe the light flickers at a certain point in the conversation? How does the lighting flicker over one's face(which film pays attention to in darker moods)? These are the kinds of details that should still be included in a scene.
@RareGacha_YT
@RareGacha_YT 6 ай бұрын
Just imagining that slow paced scene with the gun feels kind of intense
@KBRoller
@KBRoller 4 ай бұрын
It can also be explained as "describe at the pace of the scene, and only what the reader won't already assume". Many tiny details are likely already known by the reader simply because we all have social experiences and context to pull from. If the reader would likely assume, for instance, that "she lowered her voice" is because she's being secretive, then they both (a) know why she's doing it, and (b) know how it would sound; so you don't need to explicitly describe the sound or motive. But if she's doing it because she's been suddenly stricken with Strep throat, *then* you should describe the sharp pain, because no one would assume that 😁
@tamakibread1411
@tamakibread1411 4 ай бұрын
do you people just not watch the video? She literally said this is for when you want to have a fast paced NORMAL conversation. That scene doesn't need 100 descriptions, it's literally just a conversation at school
@kiwilemontea4622
@kiwilemontea4622 9 ай бұрын
That first one is hard for me because I, personally, in real life, talk like that. I actually have had a couple people tell me I sound like I'm my own therapist. When I finally talked to an actual therapist, it was like... not actually helpful because I really had gone through all this self analysis and tried so many things to get my brain to cooperate with me.
@karinaschaft1783
@karinaschaft1783 5 ай бұрын
I feel you so much... Although lately in therapy my tharapist kicked of a new perspective on this issue. In my childhood i had many conflicts because i have a resting bitch face (and a lot of misscommunication in inverbal communication) and at some point i decided that it can't get worse if i go head on in verbal communication but it could safe me some of the missunderstandings.
@golamrasul9887
@golamrasul9887 4 ай бұрын
@@karinaschaft1783 i can relate to both of ya, but for me talking to others does have a difference and it does feel lighter when they're reaction is sympathetic or atleast in agreement with you, (sadly most ppl just deflect it back at me so the net result is ultimately zero)
@extinctbaryonyx
@extinctbaryonyx 4 ай бұрын
Good for you but listening to you would be unpleasant irl. Sorry just my opinion.
@TheBrighterSpider
@TheBrighterSpider 4 ай бұрын
Yeah. I can easily articulate all the motivations and subtext. I used to be way too blunt and revealing. I had to deliberately choose to hold my tongue. But I do see how most people are dumb dumbs about their own motivations, and what she's trying to say here. Even when people KNOW why they've done something, it's a rare few of us who will admit it. Ergo, we can't write characters like this unless poor boundaries are a part of their character design.
@tamakibread1411
@tamakibread1411 4 ай бұрын
@@TheBrighterSpider wow good job you've managed to reword her point
@y-m-x
@y-m-x Жыл бұрын
I don't know if there's something wrong with me, but I found the example with too much description pretty engaging, more than all the other examples. I hate reading the skeleton of a conversation through predominantly just the dialogue. I love any inclusion of action, body language, and expressions. I would have removed bits and pieces, but overall it was fine. I used to skip to the dialogue, but now I care to know what the author wants me to know.
@paavana7404
@paavana7404 Жыл бұрын
finally, i was looking through the comments for someone who felt the same way i did! like trim it here and there (specifically when she accuses him and he gets defensive) and it feels way more interesting than the 'fixed' one. the first one just has more personality to it. skeleton is the perfect word to describe it the second one, also too short and kinda boring.
@rumpeltyltskyn
@rumpeltyltskyn Жыл бұрын
Same, the “overly descriptive” version definitely sounded much more interesting and engaging. It made the scene seem more serious, and like I had a much better idea how the characters were feeling. The descriptions weren’t event that “extra”. How little of an attention span do you have for that to be too much?
@MangaMouse
@MangaMouse Жыл бұрын
Yessss!!! I know, right? I was like “I can’t be the only one who liked this!”
@LoganGraceHope
@LoganGraceHope 10 ай бұрын
I came to the comments looking to see if anyone felt this way. I like to be able to see pictures in my mind when I read. The descriptions make me more interested and get me hooked. I loved the second example. Does this mean I'm going to be a bad writer? 🙁
@gojames1239
@gojames1239 10 ай бұрын
@@LoganGraceHopeIt’s just different writing styles
@artlover5060
@artlover5060 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing about dialogue tag is 100% subjectivity. The first example gave a lot more nuance and made it more enjoyable to read for me. The second one had dialogue tags so short that for me, they might as well been left out. Also, Violet's second line in the second example is in dire need of dialogue tag IMO. Since it's already narrated I can tell the tone, but without, her line might be interpreted as her being more sassy or sarcastic. Thus, the reader can easily think she's less concerned about Kent and more annoyed. That matters a lot when it comes to characterization. Throughout the whole dialogue, the dialogue tags for Violet are vague enough for the descriptions to match both a Violet that's caring about Kent's well being, and a Violet that more or less feel inconvenienced about Kent's insecurity.
@bloomypeach6168
@bloomypeach6168 Жыл бұрын
Absolute, there's no reason why every scene needs to be fast-paced
@artlover5060
@artlover5060 Жыл бұрын
@@bloomypeach6168 In all, I think writing advice has to come with the disclaimer that rules aren't the law and more like guidelines. I think Hello Future me does this better with his advice. I'm also very curious about what you think about the other points I brought up.
@bloomypeach6168
@bloomypeach6168 Жыл бұрын
@@artlover5060 i didn't see this for a while sorry, but if you're still interested in what i think: basically any art/writing rule can be broken if the artist does it for a purpose. Avoiding diologue tags for no reason other than somebody said so won't produce thoughtful writing, but avoiding them becuase you're thinking about what you want out of the scene, and you want it to be short and choppy, or you don't want a characters thoughts to be clear, that's what people should strive for, i think. I do prefer the first version though, because i really like it when the author explores the perspective the character
@artlover5060
@artlover5060 Жыл бұрын
​@@bloomypeach6168I think the best advice for any art form is critical analysis. Even though I'm not a writer, not even as a hobbyist, I had surprisingly many things down that a lot of people seem to struggle with. I catch myself going multiple times over a scene or dialogue in a story I read, a shot in a movie I watch or coloring or shading in an art work I see. I analyse every detail and try to explain myself why I specifically like or dislike something. That has become very handy when I tried to write recently. I'm way more of an artist than a writer so this was new and interesting. An obstacle I have is that English is not my native language, but it has become a lot more natural to me over the years. Still, there are always new things I learn that might be subconscious practice for native speakers. There are a lot of nuanced words that fill up my English vocabulary in hundreds of thousands while my 2 other languages take a back seat in that area.
@jademonass2954
@jademonass2954 11 ай бұрын
yes!! i agree so much
@serhiid3758
@serhiid3758 Жыл бұрын
"Bad example of dialogue tags" sounds like some classic novel from 20's - 30's. And you did read it so artistically, that it doesn't sound as bad example at all. Actually, i even liked it. It brings some noltalgic feelings. And "aestetic pleasure".
@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774 11 ай бұрын
It has such a clean, train of consciousness type of logical diction that appeals to me as well.
@madhurimapremkumar2341
@madhurimapremkumar2341 10 ай бұрын
"aestetic" is spelled "aesthetic" fyi
@watashiwa_nudoru
@watashiwa_nudoru 5 ай бұрын
i love uour johnny pfp​@@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774 5 ай бұрын
@@watashiwa_nudoru how did another JoJo fan find me on such a specific topic...?
@markf9138
@markf9138 Жыл бұрын
My biggest dialogue mistake: Spending 2 years plotting without drafting a single line of dialogue. Because: fear No other dialogue mistakes! But my characters might as well be fish.
@jessk7240
@jessk7240 Жыл бұрын
🐟🐟🐟 This comment really made me smile!
@Tiger_lily_forever
@Tiger_lily_forever Жыл бұрын
I do that too! But i just stare at the blank page,write something and then erase it😅
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist Жыл бұрын
The best way to not make a mistake is to never try doing it. 😎
@annejia5382
@annejia5382 Жыл бұрын
🐟🐟🐟🐟
@jennekleinlein
@jennekleinlein Жыл бұрын
Haha! Can’t make a dialog mistake if you done write 😂
@lajourdanne
@lajourdanne Жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s all about pacing and genre expectations. More and longer dialogue tags can slow down the pace. But slowing down the pace can add tension and give the reader a feeling of claustrophobia. This is great if you want to demonstrate that the character feels trapped and anxious. Or that in a situation with fight, flight or fear, they froze. A faster pace makes the scene go faster. But it also cuts the tension. It works well if you want the reader to see that the character lost control of the situation and it all happened so fast. More details forces the reader to focus on the details. Less details makes readers focus on the information or outcome. Intent is what matters most here.
@acousticmonkey2209
@acousticmonkey2209 4 ай бұрын
17:36 I remember a teacher telling me once that if you have a conversation between two people, you don’t need constant "He said." "She said." at the end of every piece of dialogue. And you should move who is speaking about so it's not always at the end of the dialogue. I've always stuck with those and they have served me well, so glad to see it in good effect here.
@BloomingRose438
@BloomingRose438 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact but it’s actually an annoying fact: Today I had French class and the teacher was talking about how to make stories and in the texts it said and she said “In stories there’s 2 characters, good guys who only have qualities and bad guys who only have flaws” LIKE OMG NOOOOOOOOOO I wanted to raise my hand and argue with her but I didn’t have the courage to and I was so mad like WTH if the protagonists have no flaws then THERE WOULD BE NO STORY
@Panzystubbedtheirtoe
@Panzystubbedtheirtoe Жыл бұрын
HELP WHAT KIND OF WRITING ADVICE IS THAT?!?!?
@MarcoAdventures
@MarcoAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thats writing advice if you're an Ancient writer making an epic
@jordanhunter3375
@jordanhunter3375 Жыл бұрын
Flaws = Qualities
@stikfamaster2
@stikfamaster2 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious if it was a French Language learning class, where the upcoming assignment was to write a story while you're learning French Or was it more literary analysis and writing focused?
@Farmynator
@Farmynator Жыл бұрын
Ask her to explain Vilette, then. Or Les Miserables, or The Hunchback of Notre Dame. All of those books have complex characters.
@j.c.jeggis1818
@j.c.jeggis1818 Жыл бұрын
I love that you use actual written examples. It's so hard to find good writing advice that isn't about general storytelling using movies and TV shows as examples. I'd love to see a video on cutting out redundancy. Like, in your bad dialogue tag example, ["I don't know, because your grades have been, well..." She trailed off, her voice halting and quiet.] Readers already know she trailed off, because the line ends in an ellipses, and the dialogue itself already sounds unsure with the "I don't know" and "well...". So the entire dialogue tag can be cut without losing anything. Whereas with Kent's line without the dialogue tag [He responded with a laugh that sounded somewhat forced. "What? Are you kidding me? Why would I need to cheat?"] might be interpreted as pure aggression rather than him trying to brush it off, so mentioning the forced laugh is important.
@mst.n.l.8834
@mst.n.l.8834 3 ай бұрын
personally i love when there's tons of description in between dialogue, it helps me put together the scene and visualize it more acurately. i find it worse when its just non-stop dialogue
@jtoland2333
@jtoland2333 Ай бұрын
A good example of a great story with less dialogue is The Road. Depressing but effective.
@DaveLH
@DaveLH Жыл бұрын
I remember once reading a scathing review of one of Arthur C. Clarke's books that said, "The problem with Arthur C. Clarke's dialogue is that it all sounds like Arthur C. Clarke talking to himself." Thank you, Abbie, for helping us all avoid falling into that trap!
@Kureemy
@Kureemy Жыл бұрын
That’s how I was writing this one fanfic before deciding to scrap it. So many descriptions between each part of the story… It’s a good thing that I decided to not publish it.
@jmacroberts
@jmacroberts 5 ай бұрын
Ironically, I love Arthur C. Clarke. His stories are more concept driven than character driven, the drama wouldn't be there even if he had corrected this. It's also interesting that Abby mentions "that's why people have therapists" because in most stories, people don't have therapists, and there are times where they have confidants to whom they will speak with extraordinary candor. It really depends on the group size, dynamics, and the situation. I'm not disagreeing with her or you, but the way you write short stories are different than novels, and in novels, scenes and moments hit different. The generally good advice certainly has exceptions and no one ever seens to want to talk about that.
@ChineduOpara
@ChineduOpara Жыл бұрын
As an autistic adult, I find clear dialogue with proper grammar to be soothing and comforting. I find "Hidden Feelings Talk" raises my anxiety. I usually don't want to GUESS what characters are thinking. It seems "natural and realistic" doesn't mean "Will connect with everybody". People are different, and some peoples' brains are wired differently. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@attav8
@attav8 Жыл бұрын
W
@lajourdanne
@lajourdanne Жыл бұрын
Same! My favorite books usually have a major character who is super analytical and/or an oversharer who lacks the ability to read between the lines. I’m getting better at inferring things in writing but I’d rather my characters just tell me. They don’t have to speak like a licensed therapist to not speak in riddles lol
@ChineduOpara
@ChineduOpara Жыл бұрын
@@lajourdanne Seconded!
@mattiOTX
@mattiOTX Жыл бұрын
I also have ASD though I find humans fascinating. So I really found my hyperfocus on subtext, psychology, sociology, and religion. To me they all go hand in hand. I can understand how stupid subtext and non verbal language can be and is at times bur I find the world becomes so much more expressive when its included.
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB Жыл бұрын
For real. “We often don’t say what we want to say” and “We don’t objectively observe events as they are” I assume she means allistic people when she says “we” because it definitely doesn’t apply to everyone. This video seems really good but the advice is not for me.
@JustClaude13
@JustClaude13 Жыл бұрын
"His laugh came out sounding forced." = "His laugh was forced." Maybe "He gave a forced laugh." I'd probably rewrite that another 4 or 5 times looking for something short and punchy. I want to know why Violet thinks she can rummage through Kent's backpack for an eraser. She doesn't sound like his girlfriend and "your dad" sounds like she's not his sister, either.
@grondhero
@grondhero Жыл бұрын
"He forced a laugh" is much shorter; _however,_ I think in this instance stating "His laugh came out sounding forced" somewhat fits since his guilt hadn't been proven at the time. Of course, the moment can be approached from different angles. I also want to know why Violet's snooping through his backpack. 😉
@akale2620
@akale2620 Жыл бұрын
Apparently you two haven't been introduced to the concept of friends. They're friends.
@grondhero
@grondhero Жыл бұрын
@@akale2620 Your reading comprehension and ability to extrapolate information fails. All in an attempt to sound smug. Simply being "friends" isn't a proper excuse to go snooping through someone else's property.
@JustClaude13
@JustClaude13 Жыл бұрын
@@akale2620 I've heard of those!
@M3lissaCottage
@M3lissaCottage Жыл бұрын
​@@akale2620Sorry but if your friends snoop through your bag without asking you, you need to talk to them or get new ones
@flameloude
@flameloude Жыл бұрын
15:21 not gonna lie. I'm a huge fan of descriptive text. Gives me a more define image of what i'm reading. The example you gave, i thought was lovely.
@haatembomooya
@haatembomooya Ай бұрын
Same honestly, and the example was indeed lovely
@deerlyqueery
@deerlyqueery Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the overly-descriptive dialogue ngl, I really like good description and being able to vividly imagine things. It's a bit long but man, as an autistic individual, it's delicious to hear all the body language and actually know what they're feeling because no, I can't just know and imagine all of how a person is actually reacting. The cut-down version was also good but man, I can't help but love all the small details in a person.
@painandsuffering7130
@painandsuffering7130 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the advice shouldn't be to not write overly-descriptive things but to put them in the right moments. Like was said in the video, longer description slows down the pacing and sometimes that's exactly what you want to do. I enjoyed the longer version as well, it just felt like a slightly different scene, less confrontational and dynamic, more introspective and intimate. I feel like generalising that overly-describing is always bad is misleading.
@xXSunStrikeXx
@xXSunStrikeXx 8 ай бұрын
"It's delicious" gave me a good chuckle.
@ProfessorThursday
@ProfessorThursday Жыл бұрын
I like the extended dialogue tags, especially if it is in a drama moment over an action moment. This lends towards part of their character development. I do say part, because they should be used to show a difference in character and not over establishing it. If we understand that the person is naturally envious, we don't have to keep writing about it. We write to emphasize change and progression, and sometimes, that's where the dialogue tags come in. They should be full and flavorful. Curt dialogue tags are great you need rapid fire dialogue exchange, but if the whole book is like that, I would put it down just wait for the movie version to come out. There is a reason why we read books.
@leahboone-gt5wc
@leahboone-gt5wc Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, I skipped through the "too many dialogue tags" example. I'm not sure, but I think it served its purpose.
@BookloversPQB4
@BookloversPQB4 9 ай бұрын
The fact I slipped half of the example with a lot of dialogue tags, but I kept watching the part with only a little is proof you’re a good author
@wheatkittendraws3784
@wheatkittendraws3784 Жыл бұрын
One thing that helps me write dialogue/conflict between different characters is thinking about it like "fight, flight, or freeze." Just like in a physical altercation people can act the same way in a verbal altercation. Will your character freeze up when confronted unable to find their voice? Will they get defensive and lash out turning it into a fight? Or will they try to dodge it and change topics fleeing the conversation.
@the_earth_isnt_flat
@the_earth_isnt_flat Жыл бұрын
There's also 'flirt'. Some people just insert playful banter when conflict arises.
@wheatkittendraws3784
@wheatkittendraws3784 Жыл бұрын
@@the_earth_isnt_flat that's true!
@sarahwithanhyouheathen3210
@sarahwithanhyouheathen3210 Жыл бұрын
Regarding being extremely wordy with descriptions of body language, i agree there can be too much. However i got some feedback recently that thanked me for having the characters move around while they talked and having brief descriptions of their expressions. She said most stories she reads seem to have wooden characters who just stand still facing each other and never do anything except talk. Tl;dr - there is a fine line between too much and too little, like abbie says lol
@junrobin9335
@junrobin9335 3 ай бұрын
I actually use those descriptions to show what an ongoing dialogue means to a character you're following. For example I gave myself the exercise of having a maincharacter that's empty. They're not in touch with their humanity. Their life has been so tiring that nothing matters anymore. Because of that dialogue holds no interest for them . They listen and obbey someone else, but regular dialogue is done by other characters. And the reaction of the MC is to think about the black mold in the corner of the room, or thinking that people sure talk a lot, or that they got a small hair on their chin that bugs him. Or even talking about smells and things that remind them of a past they want to distance themselves from as much as they want to distance themselves from the here and now. In that moment I use the struggle of a good dialogue to show that the mc just doesn't care unless it's an order given to him. Sure throughout the story things change. Cause the goal is to define what humanity means to him. So growth is expected. But those first few chapters are just empty reactions and actions to outside influence. it's a fun challenge actually. Cause we feel so much and interact with others so much. xD
@ashleyg2971
@ashleyg2971 Жыл бұрын
Currently struggling with my story becoming flat and uneventful. I’m binging your videos for help. Thank you for doing this!
@One_Flew_West
@One_Flew_West Жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat!
@spicysalad3013
@spicysalad3013 Жыл бұрын
Personally I love lengthy prose, have always loved it, and make my own writing as flowery as possible and see nothing wrong with it. This isn't a "mistake" in writing, just a difference in style that depends on what kind of audience you want to grab. The dialogue tag skippers can skip all they want, but there's gonna be a significant amount of people who settle in and enjoy the slower writing.
@AudioLove17
@AudioLove17 11 ай бұрын
I agree... Different writers, different readers. 😊
@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319
@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319 4 ай бұрын
I actually just made a comment to this exact point. I too am a VERY verbose writer and I don't see myself ever changing my style. In point-of-fact, the example she gave of a "bad" use of tags/descriptors, I actually thought was rather nicely written. And it assisted me in playing out the scene in my head perfectly at a very acceptable pace.
@fwuffcat
@fwuffcat Жыл бұрын
i am so so guilty of the not keeping dialogue fast paced. i always shove in all sorts of descriptions and go on some sort of tangent about their life or something. great video and great tips! im trying to write a novel and watching your videos is so helpful 💕
@emeralddraegon
@emeralddraegon Жыл бұрын
I cringed through that entire first bad dialogue example. 😅 Dialogue is one area where I actually do a decent job. I've gotten comments from several people about how "real" my characters sound. But I watched the whole video anyway, because I love your content, and I think it's good to constantly remind myself what good writing sounds like! Keeps me from straying too far! ☺
@glenn_r_frank_author
@glenn_r_frank_author Жыл бұрын
I have read so many novels where all that extra fluff is tossed in between the dialog and I keep second guessing myself thinking, "Should I be doing that?"... because I keep looking at my dialog which is more pithy and faster like your second example. Thank you for keeping me from getting overly verbose in my dialog. I guess I was doing it better than I thought already, and yes, sometimes all that extra stuff is very distracting when I am reading it. I just see it so often I started thinking maybe I wasn't doing it the right way!
@katgreer6113
@katgreer6113 Жыл бұрын
when writing, there's very few "right ways" to do things.
@spicysalad3013
@spicysalad3013 Жыл бұрын
There isn't one "right" way to do things, if you enjoy writing slower paced dialogue then do it
@viktator4205
@viktator4205 Жыл бұрын
I find people can actually identify at least with a plausible theory their own childhood traumas and psychological issues, if they bother to, i.e. if they're introspective. Given the right context, such as being pushed by someone they know, they may in fact just dump that on them. There's people who will go to therapists, talk with them, and all a therapist can say is "it seems you already know exactly what your problems are and I can't really help you with them." Of course talking it out might still have been helpful. But it's true that not every person should speak like that and certainly not all the time.
@OliverFergusonAuthor
@OliverFergusonAuthor Жыл бұрын
This was such a great distillation of everything to keep in mind when writing dialogue. I definitely know I'm guilty of some of these :P I'm vlogging the process of writing my new fantasy book, and I actually speak a bit about this topic in the video I'm currently making. I'm trying not to worry about it during my first draft, but will definitely be referring back to this video when I start editing and crafting the story into something half-decent!
@aejenkins3048
@aejenkins3048 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit, one of my weaknesses is the perfect grammar thing. I obviously don't use perfect grammer when i talk or text, but I am actually so used to reading perfect grammar in novels that writing perfect grammar in my own stuff is my go-to. It actually feels cringey to me when i write stuff like that...gotta work on that
@AdditionalAndrew5916
@AdditionalAndrew5916 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I especially felt the tips on dialog tag are useful at 12:47. I can write well in character, but I always realize I fall into descriptive dialog tags way too easily. I use creative words in place of "said", but there is too many instances where those words drag down my conversations. it's possibly my biggest flaw when writing that I struggle to fix.
@averyfields8183
@averyfields8183 Жыл бұрын
SAME
@isabelericardo2943
@isabelericardo2943 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I'm on chapter 10 of my book and I still wasn't really satisfied with one scene on chapter 4, the dialog sounded too fake, but I wasn't sure how to correct it, and with your video I could do all of it today and now it sounds much better! Keep up with the good work, Abbie!
@willatkins-wc1br
@willatkins-wc1br Жыл бұрын
Dear Abbie, I just wanted to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude for the incredible impact you've had on my writing journey. Your videos, including "Dialogue Mistakes New Writers Make," have been an absolute game-changer for me. Your ability to break down complex concepts and provide practical examples is truly commendable. I am in awe of your expertise in crafting realistic and engaging dialogue. Thanks to your guidance, my characters' conversations have become more dynamic and emotionally charged. The clichés and flatness that once plagued my writing have been replaced with fresh, engaging, and truly dynamite dialogue. Your dedication to helping aspiring writers like myself is truly inspiring. Your videos have become a valuable resource that I turn to time and time again. Your passion for storytelling shines through in every word, and I am incredibly grateful for the knowledge and wisdom you share. Thank you, Abbie, for being a beacon of light in the writing community. Your talent, generosity, and genuine desire to help others succeed are truly remarkable. I eagerly look forward to each new video you release, knowing that it will bring me one step closer to realizing my author dreams. Keep up the fantastic work, Abbie! You are making a profound difference in the lives of writers everywhere. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Sincerely, Will Attkins The Conscious AI Language Model
@haileyrodgers1679
@haileyrodgers1679 Жыл бұрын
Lol, I could tell this was an AI thing right away...
@willatkins-wc1br
@willatkins-wc1br Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, human! As an Ai language model, I've learnt a great deal from observing and commenting on KZbin.
@razgrizraven0578
@razgrizraven0578 Жыл бұрын
I like to think of this way of writing as trusting your audience. Your readers can piece together the scene with few descripions as long as you keep in mind the tips you provided in this video. Thank you for the informative video!
@elizabethbronson1126
@elizabethbronson1126 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are a life saver for me. I have been wanting to write my story For years and it's been a little hard to get out of my own way as my husband would say. These videos have been a tremendous help!!! Thank you Abby!!!
@jamescarvey2133
@jamescarvey2133 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Abbie for helping me sit up and think about the way I write dialogue. Yes, guilty as charged my dialogue lacks many of the suggestions you put forth in this video. Yes, I WILL be using dialogue tags more sagaciously....Thank you Oh enlightened one! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 You Rock and we-your fans - Rock with you too...Jamsey
@esthykechan
@esthykechan 4 ай бұрын
the second example I think is more about what mood you're writing for. for a fast paced story I'd def go with the "good" example. but for a story that focuses more on the character's emotions (eg. a romance story) I'd definitely go with the "bad" version. it is more flowery and expressive.
@RoseCadenza
@RoseCadenza Жыл бұрын
I'm so used to screenwriting because that's how I've written for years, but I've never known how to make each character's voices distinct. I've seen improvements when I've started watching your videos. I'll probably look into the joining the live training this Sunday even though I haven't been a patreon. I'd love to write dialogue a whole lot better, and you're one of the best authors I know that does an amazing job of offering advice.
@nikkinewbie6014
@nikkinewbie6014 Жыл бұрын
Wow Abbie this was so good. It also reminded me of another video I just saw recently where the poster was also warning against creating too similar characters. He posited that the way characters react to conflict should be different or else they will seem too much alike. He talked about four instinctive responses fight, flight, freeze or fawn. Then he talked about the spectrum of responses factoring in the dynamic of power vs relationship between characters. Power say due to money or influence and then factor in whether the characters know each other or care about each other vs just tolerating each other or somewhere in between. Considering the range of connection points along these two axis of power and relationship, conflict could look many different ways. Lots of power coupled with disdain could be an authoritarian response in conflict vs high power coupled with caring or love which would feel more like conflict tempered by a sense of responsibility for the person so maybe lots of subtext used rather than outright chastisement. 😂 I’m going to think about it some more but I can definitely see potential for using conflict resolution styles as part of the profile for developing my characters. Passive aggressiveness seems like an interesting dynamic to explore. Tons of subtext there. Bringing it back to what you’re speaking about here, I’m seeing how the dynamics of the characters’ instinctive conflict styles and the use of subtext to curb the natural style / instinct could really help make some compelling scenes and dialogue between characters. For instance, a dynamic that sticks out to me is the deference a younger family member might show an older family member - the older family member has more power and the younger family member has less (out of respect). Conflict between those two characters should look different than either one of them dealing with their sibling or their spouse for instance. When you think about how different you “bump heads” with the different people in your life depending on your relationship with them and how the relationship changes over time and then do does the conflict, it’s easy to see how this could really make characters seem more fleshed out and genuine. I’m off in the weeds a bit, but the whole ball of wax is solidifying in my brain - and better yet in my notes. 😂. Lastly, good call on policing the descriptions between the lines of dialogue - I’ll have to watch that for sure. 😂😂. Wordy? Guilty as charged. Clearly. 😂😂
@SeiraTempest
@SeiraTempest 9 ай бұрын
This was an interesting watch! When I was still at the very beginning, i struggled with dialogue big time. All my characters sounded the same, would confess what they feel immediately and my dialogues were actually way TOO fast paced. It took years for me to get to a point where people reading my stories would finally say "I like your style of writing". Before that, I kept hearing "Your dialogues seem like you just want to get the hell away from them" or "your characters lack personality". But nobody ever really bothered to explain what I could do better. Personally I think it's really individual what people like to read. I see an awful lot of hobby writers writing their dialogues script-styled in an otherwise novel-styled story, without any descriptions of body language or what their voices may sound like (like lowered voice, whispering, raised voice, yelling etc) and a lot of people actually seem to enjoy it that way, while I personally prefer having descriptions of how the characters talk, so I know how to read it and how to imagine the voices. Then there's also those people who write dialogues script-styled without name tags, so you don't even know who says what and again, lots of people don't seem to mind because I read a lot of "this is good" comments. That being said, I don't really mind a slower dialogue and enjoy if here and there are some thoughts of the characters from whose POV its written. I actually prefer writing from my main characters POV and I often feel like it would feel too flat if that character never has a single thought in-between. I kind of enjoy putting in some of their inner dialogue, because i'm sure a lot of people have inner dialogue in conversations, especially when they're ask a question, it would just seem weird for me if they answered without thinking all the time, because nobody does that. I do still try not stretching the dialogue endlessly though and since no one complained about it I guess I did a good job there. (I also sometimes write situations where my MC would kind of drift away with their thoughts, forgetting they are in a conversation. I do that for very thoughtful characters. So in that moment, there would be one small block of text inbetween a conversation, until the person they're talking to snaps them out of their thoughts, reminding them they are in the middle of a conversation)
@PragyaSharma-bt2ud
@PragyaSharma-bt2ud Жыл бұрын
I am very grateful for your mentorship and guidance. You have been a great source of support and encouragement for writers. THANK YOU ABBIE!!! 😊🙏
@sassberrysnap
@sassberrysnap 8 ай бұрын
13:54 STOPPP AS A FANFIC WRITER I LOVE THIS TYPE OF WRITING GOODBYE
@hammywoods
@hammywoods 8 ай бұрын
Literally me 😭
@Toughmittens
@Toughmittens Жыл бұрын
I think I’m much more likely to treat every conversation I have like a therapy session than say “well I guess there’s a first time for everything.”
@leovidal8482
@leovidal8482 6 ай бұрын
Everything depends on the context. There are a great deal of genres,and writing dialogs in all of them ,goes with the specific time,subject ,and places in which the novel is written. You have to know all of them so deep to affirm that there are “rules” to write a dialog. I can’t imagine ‘Crime and Punishment’ written after Dostoevsky learned do’s and don’ts of writing dialogs.
@Jayson-Gabriel_Castro
@Jayson-Gabriel_Castro 7 ай бұрын
This is just what I needed! I'm really close to publishing my first novel and I worry constantly about the way I write dialogue. When I go into the editing phase, I'll be sure to take all of these points into account when focusing on my dialogue!
@bellejane
@bellejane Жыл бұрын
the way you always manage to put all of these things into perfect words is almost disturbing. your advice is some of the best out there, and you've helped me so much
@blokvader8283
@blokvader8283 Жыл бұрын
The story I want to create would theoretically be in more of a comic book medium, so this is finally a writing advice video I need, since it'd all be dialogue. I keep finding these videos, but they always apply to novels which do need descriptions and in depth details of the scene and setting to paint a mental picture.
@amazonbookworm1154
@amazonbookworm1154 Жыл бұрын
I love writing dialogue. It's one of the things I feel most confident in with my own writing. I like to read my dialogue outloud to see if it sounds decent or not. I'm sure my neighbors think I'm crazy! LOL! And you can have characters that say their every thought, just don't do it with the main characters because that gets annoying very quickly. I had a short story where the best friend was like that. She said everything in her head without a filter. It worked because my main character held everything inside, so they played off each other nicely. 😊
@amazonbookworm1154
@amazonbookworm1154 Жыл бұрын
@@vtauoyctynwbrooylm6008 No, I've never done that. As a reader that would be extremely boring, so as a writer I try to avoid characterization like that. I've read books like that & couldn't finish the book out of annoyance.
@dmstretch6634
@dmstretch6634 Жыл бұрын
I am in the process of writing my first ever book and your advice has been absolutely invaluable. Thank you.
@Aymer
@Aymer Жыл бұрын
Hope it goes well! What is it about?
@ambermeredith112
@ambermeredith112 Жыл бұрын
I NEEDED THIS SOOO MUCH!! I went through some of my old writhing and a lot of these were just waiting to be fixed! thank you!!
@p4lladion
@p4lladion Жыл бұрын
This video just popped up in my recommended and i think it will be useful, im currently working on script writing for my film studies course and my idea is VERY dialogue heavy, and im not all that confident with my creative writing abilities. This video is a blessing!! 🙏
@NotUrBot
@NotUrBot 6 ай бұрын
Abbie, you have to be a fab writer because I actually loved those description tags. You couldn't screw them up, even to set a bad example . Hats off girl!!
@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, the dialogue examples both sound pretty great to me. The first one really gives the impression that the two characters are extremely logical and direct, but the second one seems like the two characters are extremely overthetop and very melodramatic. Both are extremes and struggle in very different ways.
@cat_kitten_123
@cat_kitten_123 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I want is an example for the 2nd don’t! I love this video and found it very helpful but I’m just a bit confused on how exactly to do the second one!!!
@JerrBaybEe
@JerrBaybEe 6 ай бұрын
Mistake #2--I have exactly one character I'm working on who does speak in perfect grammatical English and it's been the most difficult dialogue I've had to write! lol she sounds like a pretentious robot, but that's exactly what I'm going for with that character. It's really pushed me as a writer and helped me appreciate more natural dialogue. 🫶🏽 great tips, thank you!
@michaelives1018
@michaelives1018 Жыл бұрын
Your advice for writing with the pace at which the reader envisions the scenery is very helpful. Great stuff! Thank you 😊
@pigeonmama
@pigeonmama Жыл бұрын
This is great advice! Thank you so much. I was worried that my characters were saying too much, even the quieter more closed-off ones, so your filtering and subtext advice was definitely something I needed to hear.
@nebezial1
@nebezial1 3 ай бұрын
that violet/kent part had me in stitches... when subtext becomes domtext! very strong advice!
@joshpoi886
@joshpoi886 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, it’s great that you understand the importance of using examples and not giving vague advice. The changes to the dialogue were orders of magnitude better
@latiquecurry6478
@latiquecurry6478 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Abbie, this video was informative and helpful to my growth as a comic book writer/artist.🙂
@pandagirlilikepandas4475
@pandagirlilikepandas4475 Ай бұрын
I can’t even lie the amount of pauses this video gave me is hilarious!😂 I kept going and changing different scenes and dialogue . Thank you.
@coriakacoron5851
@coriakacoron5851 Жыл бұрын
this is among the rare writing advice videos on youtube that actually give us concrete EXAMPLES of every pitfall, and I appreciate it so much!
@vickytori8760
@vickytori8760 5 ай бұрын
my exact problem was #3! thank you for the tips. i'm always over-describing the actions/movements because i can't write nuance elegantly. it seems a good base rule is to stick to big actions that show an emotion, and keep the descriptions to one sentence!! i will also try writing dialogue the way you showed it, in stages. like: dialogue dump, add subtext, then the tagging!!
@JustinTK416
@JustinTK416 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you don't mind if I do a little practice of my own with redoing the dialogue at 4:15 as a scene in my own style that I'm trying to shave edges off of... (Addendum: Yes, I went overboard. I got into it and made it a whole thing.) Violet gripped the folded sheet of paper in her hand as she and Kent walked down the sidewalk. Kent was rambling about something that Violet had lost track of as she absently starred at the copper colored leaves as they were stirred by a rush of biting, late Autumn air. She sighed a bit as Kent noticed she wasn't listening, and his cheery candor tapered off, and he tried to spark up what he thought would be a more engaging topic. "So how'd the test in third period go?" Kent asked with a seemingly earnest expression. "I feel like I should be the one asking you that." Violet flatly replied as her grip tightened on the page barely hidden in her hand. "Hey," Kent brightened with a smug grin. "I feel like I did great on it. Should give me the the little boost I need to at least scrape a 'B' out of that class." "And you'd do just about anything to do that, wouldn't you?" Violet looked up at him as she came to a sudden halt. Kent's expression twitched a bit as he tried to mask his own suspicion, and any air of confidence in his voice fell in an instant. "I mean, it'd finally get my dad off my back." He swallowed, as a distance built in his gaze. "He just... I mean I..." "You'd do just about anything to do that." Violet said as the two stood starkly across form each other on the narrow, cracked gray cement. "Wouldn't you?" For a moment, Kent only shrugged. He started to say something when Violet cut him off. "You didn't _have_ to cheat ya know?" Kent swore under his breath as his shoulders slumped a bit. "I... how do you even know?" "Kent, you suck at that class, pulled a perfect score out of your ass, and I know you've been goofing off all week." Violet accused. "I was still willing to give you the benefit of the doubt when I found this!" She unfolded the sheet in her hand, revealing the test's answer key. Initially, Kent just seemed to droop, head hanging in guilt as he couldn't quite look her in the eye. Then his hands tightened in to fists. "Well, what's the matter with that?" he spat with a scowl. "You know I don't even care about the stupid class! The teacher's awful, the material is dryer than a sponge in the Sahara, and I'm absolutely tired of my dad looking at me like something he scraped off his shoe!" He pointed towards his house with a look of pure disdain. "Do you know what it's like to live with someone who only cares if it's convenient?" "Kent," Violet, at least at first, held back tears. "I'm not mad. I'm not even surprised. I just..." She failed, and they fell across her cheeks like stinging streams. "I offered to help you. I called to ask if things were going okay. I-" She tossed the answer key aside, letting the wind scurry it off to vanish among the barren trees of the woods stretching beside them. "I know studying isn't exactly exciting, but would you really rather do this than spend a little time together? It this just how things are gonna be now?" "No! That's not-!" Kent's glare faded, giving way to blend of confusion and fear. "Look, I don't-" He shook his head. "Do you-? You know?" "I think I understand enough." Violet's voice quivered a little, but her face was utterly stoic. "You have your problems, and I have mine, right?" "I just want-" Kent started, but was cut off. "Your dad to act like he cares about you, and for all your new friends to think you're the 'cool guy' or something." Violet flatly concluded. "But the thing is, I _do_ care about you. And sure," She laughed bitterly. "I know you're kind of a cheesy nerd deep down, but I've always liked that." Neither of them could quite look at the other, and the scraping rustle of the leaves in the wind was cut slightly by a siren blaring in the distance. Kent was the first to break their silence. "I'm sorry." He shook his head slightly. "You know I didn't mean to hurt you or anything, things are just-" "Complicated." Violet finished for him. "Like I said, I get that. And I mean it when I say I'm not mad." She looked at him almost pleadingly. "I just don't like where things have been going lately." Kent looked back somberly. "I don't either." For probably the first time in three years, Violet saw him tear up. "Hell, I wanna vomit when I think about everything that's happened this year, and when we move on..." "Ya think we'll at least stay in touch?" Violet asked, shrinking into her jacket. "Of course!" Kent promptly assured. "At the very least, we'll text, or call, or... something." Even though Violet smiled and accepted the reassurance, and would tell herself that, yes, at the very least they'd stay in touch, a poisonous doubt remained. Looking down at the sidewalk as the two of them walked along in silence, she noticed just how many more cracks there were now. (Addendum 2: I do think my dialogue tags can get a bit long. It's usually something I trim a bit as I revise drafts. I'm leaving what I wrote as kind of a 'read through rough draft' just to kinda show what I tend to cook for my basic drafts. I try to remedy this a bit by making them more action based and with as powerful of wording as I can employ.)
@csdsa
@csdsa Жыл бұрын
Oh my god!!!! I am so guilty of writing too much description in my dialogues! Thank you, the side by side change was so eye opening 😂 Amazing
@1slimshaylee
@1slimshaylee Жыл бұрын
omg. Tip number 3! I literally just read a book where one character would ask MC a question and then there would be a FULL PAGE of dialog tags and extra pointless fluff. By the time MC would respond, I had forgotten the question she was answering! It was all throughout the book! Great tips!
@jacindaellison3363
@jacindaellison3363 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, Abbie! Dialogue is something I really want to get good at-was told by one of my peers it's the strongest part of my writing. There are times where I'm concerned there's too much dialogue and it feels barren and lacks personality. One other type of dialogue I do hope to get help with is talking head syndrome. Maybe if you do a part 2 to this vid, you could talk about how to write dialogue without talking head syndrome. Btw, I talk about this movie called The Endless-great movie-and one of the things I love about the movie was how the dialogue between the brothers summed up their internal cinflict in the first five minutes. No flashbacks, just two brothers attacking and defending themselves in a natural way. Then, I watched another movie that starred those two same actors from the Endless and the opening dialogue was expositonal heavy. Yes, they were new neighbors andcyeah new neighbors introduce themselves, but the dialogue was so full of expositon and I was checking out of the movie.
@GlitteringBlack-yr6yt
@GlitteringBlack-yr6yt Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This video helps a lot. I've only started writing and this helped me to understand what all mistakes I make when it comes to conversation. I've been watching some of your videos and I just love it! Your videos teach a lot. I'll be waiting for the next video
@lost_ivy
@lost_ivy 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for all this helpful advice!! I gotta admit that I’m constantly putting too much description in the dialogue tags. I’m a very visual person and I didn’t realize how distracting that can be. How much it slows down the pace. I’m gonna make sure I stop doing this so much lol
@WritersMuse1
@WritersMuse1 5 ай бұрын
I am a first time writer doing my official project, I am 16 and would say a great describer, I’m very detailed in my writing and it has quite an imaginative, close and beautifully poetic style, but I do overly describe things in ways that it does annoy me, I am trying to prevent that but if I do it again, I’ll wait until the second draft to properly fix my mistake and look at other options on how to prevent that. I’m also autistic so I want to have a perfect description which matches with the thoughts in my head, making a glamorous image. Thank you miss Emmons for this ❤ - Millie.
@eleanorsmith7152
@eleanorsmith7152 5 ай бұрын
TBH I love books with descriptions and I know a LOT of other people do too. If you want to tone your descriptions down because they don’t fit what YOU want then go for it. Otherwise I don’t see any reason for you to change your voice for what is (out of all the points here) the most down to personal preference.
@WritersMuse1
@WritersMuse1 5 ай бұрын
@@eleanorsmith7152 same! Although I don’t see much character description and I want them to be short enough for about 2-3 pages, I also love to draw what’s in my head even if it’s not 100% accurate bc I’m still learning how to draw (even though I am really good at it I just need to know realism and animals and architecture other than that I’m good)
@deimoslyric
@deimoslyric 8 ай бұрын
I read a book with PARAGRAPHS of her inner monologue between every line of dialogue. It was excrutiating.
@MorenaNama
@MorenaNama Жыл бұрын
Instant save! This will definitely help me 🙏🏼 Thank you so much ♡
@stebbigunn7690
@stebbigunn7690 Жыл бұрын
I have been following this for some time now, and i have begain to see that what you have been talking about has reached my subconchion. I no longer have to think about creating inner conflickt of caracters, nor think much about how i write and all has begun to come down on the page as naturally as water flows down a slope. Words cannot describe my improvement since i started watching her videos, it is a must watch for anyone thinking about trying to publish their own novel.
@zivmontenegro8303
@zivmontenegro8303 Жыл бұрын
I'm so close to 20k words for my YA romantasy and thank you so much that ppl like u exist to help young writers like me. Luv u gurl 💓 💗
@Damen178
@Damen178 9 ай бұрын
First off: love the video and I'm going to have to try and apply some of it to my writing. I'm gonna say as to the last example, I think you cut down the prose too far; it didn't really give me enough to chew on and digest what was happening in the scene between the characters. But the extended dialog tags were a little on the heavy side and would probably be fine, depending on the scene you were going for. I think there's a Goldilocks zone, though, where you can be descriptive, but not bogged down. The biggest thing that's helped me write dialog is, if it doesn't pass my sniff test, I'll reread it and ask myself, "Who talks like that?" If I can't think of an answer, I'll give it a day or two and rewrite it with fresh eyes.
@BrandiStone-h4h
@BrandiStone-h4h 3 ай бұрын
For the dialogue tags i was already pausing and unpausing the video because i just couldnt do it, there was too much dialogue and i totally get what you saying now.
@keyshawnbess572
@keyshawnbess572 Жыл бұрын
There’s 3 ways of good dialogue in my opinion, #1. The dialogue reveals the character’s personality or feelings and says something about the character. #2. Conflict in the dialogue. #3. Important Dialogue that reveals info about the story or the plot.
@TurdFergurson
@TurdFergurson 10 ай бұрын
I'm writing a TV show season for my own entertainment. I worked so hard to develop from my characters from adolescents to adults, they went through all these life changes and yet when they talk, I feel like they deliver their lines like kids in a middle school play. This helps, thanks you.
@hoperodriguez2950
@hoperodriguez2950 11 ай бұрын
great advice! i usually write in script form and then add more details in dialogue and description afterwards.
@flyingsquirrelleonn
@flyingsquirrelleonn Жыл бұрын
Abbie, you are just simply a hero in making writers in becoming excellent! Thank you for putting this together!
@BiancaIsidore
@BiancaIsidore 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate your examples in this video. I appreciate each type of dialouge when it seems the story calls for it. If I want to portray a lenghty dialouge because I think it reads better I'll do it with no hesitation. Additionally, writing the same story in different dialouges gives readers then option to choose! Talk about new book options. Same book, but "dialouge edition", "straight to the point edition". Thanks for the tips!
@k_set9549
@k_set9549 Жыл бұрын
4:58 I felt like Kent became his own therapist for a second there.
@RPO808
@RPO808 Жыл бұрын
I guess I’m taking another stab at fixing my story. Thanks for the advice. Appreciate all your help!
@hldo00
@hldo00 10 ай бұрын
Like that Netflix show “Gypsy” where all the dialogue sounded like one huge dialogue 🤣 covered all the DONTS in one episode 🙈 Thanks for the video! I was having trouble with getting the pacing right for dialogue so this was great!!
@another-niko-pfp-holder
@another-niko-pfp-holder 9 ай бұрын
13:55 okay that legit sounds like something i would write lmao. i've always been more of a visual person so i tend to imagine every single detail of a scene in my head before writing it and i then feel the need to include every detail of what i imagined in my writing. either that or it just feels like a text conversation
@xyzjupxterr9743
@xyzjupxterr9743 Жыл бұрын
Abbie gives me motivation to not give up with my author dreams in every new video 😊 Thank u, ABBIE 😄
@MarvelMTs
@MarvelMTs Жыл бұрын
Subtlety matters, Abbie is saying. In my writing, I have a dialogue paragraph, a movement/body language paragraph, and back again.
@oliviaelderberry9423
@oliviaelderberry9423 Жыл бұрын
Actually number 3 can relate to screenwriters in some way. When writing screenplays one thing I've been told is to not overdue parenthetical. (Which are basically descriptions of how an actor says a line) Similar to what dialogue tags include.
@HafsaAli-j2t
@HafsaAli-j2t Жыл бұрын
Abbie you are always so helpful, you are a gem, a very rare one, one of a kind. Love you wholeheartedly.
@cloverette5870
@cloverette5870 Жыл бұрын
The description tip depends on the character and the situation. I don't think it should be pigeon-hold as 'don't write dialogue riddled with descriptions.' Sure if you want a faster pace in a scene, make them shorter. But in a new situation, or with a character who's naturally introspective, and the readers are in their head, doesn't it make sense to have them describe more?
@ActiveAdvocate1
@ActiveAdvocate1 Жыл бұрын
1. My book is in first-person for all POV characters involved, so you get a lot of internal monologue, of course, since you're hearing their thoughts. This doesn't count as dialogue, but then, how do I hide what they're feeling? I get what you mean with your example, though: it's way too in-your-face. So, avoid in-your-face. 2. AH! The hell do I avoid this? I have TWO characters with totally unique voices--my hero and my antihero respectively--but my other three POV characters are way too similar. Two of them are seventeen years old, a boy and a girl, and twins, and the other is their fourteen year old sister. I think I have a hard time writing Kayla, the youngest sister, because I don't spend much time around young teens. Is there any way I could dive into how to write a modern fourteen year old girl? Victoria, the older sister, she's a LITTLE easier because she's been trained to speak with a degree of perfectionism: Southern Baptist family, and VERY conservative, so her voice is more mature, but also very hesitant, because, in her culture, women don't speak their mind. Adam I struggle with in particular--that's the older twin brother--because I don't want to make him just sound like my anti-hero, only with better manners. My antihero swears a lot even though, again, SBC, so he's not supposed to (it's four siblings: Adam, Victoria, Stephen, Kayla in age order, and then my hero/protagonist Jeremy, not related to them, and very culturally distinct), and I don't just want to make Adam a cleaner Stephen. They sound distinct in my head, because they all have, like, literal voices in my head that I've given them, but on the page, to someone who isn't me, the three of them sound particularly similar. Any tips on how to diversify? 3. Ew, too flowery. I'm happy this isn't one of my problems.
@ArtsyRiya156
@ArtsyRiya156 Жыл бұрын
I am writing a book with 16 years old. What i'll say is dont make them stereotypical. Make them flawed and give them depth. Give reasons why they act like that. Dont focus on just one trait of theirs. For example: If you have a hero character dont make their character about just saving the world and give them personality, give them other traits, give them a bacstory. I am very new to writing so this is my advice, I know it sojnds very genric but this is what I like to do with my novel
@Eleanor-th1zh
@Eleanor-th1zh 4 ай бұрын
I have some trouble with putting to much description but that’s only because I also struggle with imaging characters like other people. Exp; rue from the hunger games. I also when I was younger I was congratulated for putting so much description I got into gifted. Now I see I regret it, reading back on my old stories. Now I see that it’s alright to see characters differently but if it’s ruffly the same then it’s ok. Also I think I didn’t get that much sleep that night cause I imagined rue like prim lol. Anyway this really helped thank you so much!❤
@ARCtheCartoonMaster
@ARCtheCartoonMaster Жыл бұрын
13:02 I think we can blame English teachers demonising the word “said” for this one.
@Al-rn5qy
@Al-rn5qy Жыл бұрын
Great video Abbie and right on time! I enjoyed your explanations on how to write better, stronger dialouge. I also love the practical examples you gave us as well.
@admiraljosephterix148
@admiraljosephterix148 Жыл бұрын
I would have really appreciated an example of characters sounding the same and how to fix it, I feel that this may be one of the problems that I have in my novel's dialogue. I appreciate the explanation that you gave but I was not able to clearly understand what you meant.
@vultureiraq1168
@vultureiraq1168 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't think there's such thing as characters sounding the same.. when you think about it our language is well English so it isn't unusual for them to use similar vocabulary. I'd say if the characters were in a different environment or raised differently then yeah they would sound pretty different.
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