DiamondBack Andean-FASTEST TT Bike Ever?

[@ogmikep84]

if we make a video for KZbin talking about a bike show the bike more than......that face. seen the bike maybe for 7 seconds the rest was...

[@Demon09-_-]

I am glad some company's wind tunnel test with a rider on the bike. I mean why exclude the biggest drag factor that may change how air flows on some of the frame? Many quote there frames are x faster then another frame but exclude the effect the large mass on top has

[@mamneo2]

You have to test them both, with and without rider.

[@scottreutter]

That bike is sick. Way cooler than the new Cervelo

[@RedWingsninetyone]

I don't know about the weight, but I know aerodynamics can make a huge difference. The Mythbusters proved this with a car they made. They took a Ford Taurus, covered it in clay, and then added golf ball style divots into it. It got better MPG despite all the extra weight from the clay!

[@jevinbevin]

The weight had no effect

[@jevinbevin]

The control was also weighed down

[@RedWingsninetyone]

Clashlolxbox it has been a while since I've seen it but I thought it was even before that.

[@jevinbevin]

I wonder if dimples on bike would do anything

[@Mtzronn]

No, but dimples on the head would. Where's the hammer?

[@alexandresenas1728]

Hi. I would like to buy one. The place where I train has a lot of speed bump. Do you think this frame is enough strong to support many hits on these bumpers? Thanks.

[@hayabusa27]

Alexandre Senas speed bumps won't affect this bike, the triangle area that sits closer to the front wheel bottom is safe enough once it goes over bumps

[@radiantlandscapesphotograp1525]

No wind tunnel data comparison posted. We'll see how fast it really is once there is some DATA. Also the frame isnt exactly shaped like an airfoil, as most are nowadays, so you are not really taking advantage of the lift gained in a yaw. Although going fast you never see a yaw greater than 10 degrees, I wonder what type of yaw-related CFD computational analysis they did. Nothing really beats wind tunnel tests though.

[@Dake-gw6it]

The people who hate the design are jealous of how nice and beautiful this bike looks. I love it

[@alexdsz1989]

O don't know if someone mentioned this, but in Kona you can't use a full disc in the back because of the cross winds. It'd be too unstable.

[@Michelle_Schu-blacka]

I feel like aerodynamics on bikes is a moot point... As soon as you dump a meat bag on it, you have an instant sail and instant drag.

[@schweet1198]

I sorta feel the same... I think there's far more drag hitting the person's head, shoulders and legs than what the bike itself is catching.

[@mamneo2]

@@schweet1198 totally, drag force is directly proporcional to the area exposed to the air flow. A rider generates much more area than the bike, thus generating more drag. That certainly does not mean that making the bike as aero as possible it's not important.

[@kyleessex6301]

the big reason they don't use discs in kona is because the cycling leg of the race is unprotected and is prone to very strong winds

[@rolandojr.antonio6855]

Nice bike!

[@peterliljebladh]

What's the maximum allowed cross section ratio for triathlon bikes? 17:1?

[@shanemaiers6598]

There is more to a bike than just aerodynamics, the bike will be much heavier. Especially if there is a disc wheel on the back, making it a bitch on the climbs. Also, what are the cornering and handling characteristics? Its not just about out and back, races are won and lost on the climbs, descents, and in the corners. Finally, i bet it will be a monster to control in a cross-wind because of it large surface area.

[@phil2370]

They tested the cross winds and nothing happens, doesn`t have to much influence. Also Disc wheels aren`t allowed in Kona (due to the danger of cross winds)

[@mitchellsteindler]

dude, this is a tri bike. Weight is irrelevant. You livin in the 90s?

[@SDS-1]

I stopped watching after he said $6,000-8,000 per bike. For everyone my ass.

[@tomsharpe8181]

james craghead he means if you have the money you can buy one.

[@hayabusa27]

james craghead Thats cheap compared to most Kona top bikes

[@kirillstikhin5198]

at least cheaper than cervelo p5x

[@stuartlambert5059]

And almost certainly available from China for $500 about 2 weeks after launch! :-)

[@Kurtwell]

Well, you get what you pay for

[@brianstevenson4432]

Kurtwell no you don't ! Do you really think there is $6000 to $8000 worth in this junk

[@renovatiovr]

Brian Stevenson Yeah, there is as perception of value is subjective

[@someguy9520]

m8, starting point is now lower, also afaik, the chinese frame and wheels manufactures use open moulds, so i question where the hell they would get the mould for an Andean. There are actually some manufactures that make their own moulds, but i would question whether anyone would ask for a chinese Andean. After all, despite the title, you can't use it in TTs(when the UCI is involved) and not a lot people want a bike that radical, even though it might be crazy fast. I think it would take 2-3 years IF the Andean sells like hell you migth find a chinese copy. Wouldn recommend it though, cause a missing seatstay is too risky for me from china. My carbon frame for my MTB is doing fine, but a bike like the Andean is a diffrent story

[@jonnythelegs2597]

It's 300 with tri spokes front and rear on alixexpress now

[@blake.l.h]

Have you seen the cervelo p5x

[@ThetriguyYT]

+Blake Harris Yeah, looks pretty similar to the Andean going to be talking about it in the news video this week.

[@johncarpenter2172]

Really? The p5x is a beam bike! This is not a beam bike.

[@AfonsoRamosmtb]

About Kona, yes they are not allowed to use disc wheels there, because the crosswind is to strong. And about the Disc Brakes, actualy, the wheels will become more aero with disc brakes, because now they can produce wider wheels , since it does not need the area for the brake, and a wider wheel has been more aerodynamic, the coming years will greatly change the aerodynamics of the bikes due to disc brakes. And like was spoke here, in Kona this bike will be difficult to control , because of crosswinds. It will probably be a heavy bike, but to plan courses it does not matter much, since the weight makes more difference in long climbs . That if it is not extremely heavy of course. And come on, your bike is really nice, one of the most beautiful in fact , especially in the case of a average price bike, not a expensive one. These days you have posted about your work on instagram , fixing bikes I believe, you could launch a video about it! maintenance tips etc. Great video, nice topic!

[@ThetriguyYT]

Thanks for the awesome comment as always, good stuff about the disc brakes, did not know that. I definitely would like to show more of the awesome bikes I work on at work, and share tips, there are just already sooo many bike maintenance videos out there.

[@ThetriguyYT]

Comentator Thanks for the input, looks like you definitely know your stuff, nice to see this in the comments!

[@hayabusa27]

Afonso Ramos and they used it with discs in Kona

[@Mystarlite]

Here's some info on crosswinds at least: "The red line details the drag up to 20º yaw angle (cross wind) with everything installed as shown in the top photo, save for a Jet 9 front / Jet Disc rear wheel." www.bikerumor.com/2016/09/15/diamondback-unleashes-worlds-fastest-aero-bike-insane/

[@ThetriguyYT]

Cool very good find!

[@davidtt8372]

weight only really matters if you are climbing. Most triathlons are on flat courses.

[@newsview9978]

What?? UK half IM wimbleball , Pascara Half IM. I think you chose the easy ones 👍

[@hayabusa27]

David Trapp This weighs 3 pounds more than a Pinarello F12, thats nothing

[@davidtt8372]

@@hayabusa27 idk how that is relevant to this 3 year old post

[@hayabusa27]

@@davidtt8372 you would be surprised

[@andreszucs]

They mentioned 'wallet and keys' for that bottom compartment...that's for the average Joe that I'll get this thing and ride from his house to the first coffee shop 3 miles away.

[@mamneo2]

What about that Joe that rides 3-4 free races a year, and uses a TT bike just to leave all the regular cyclists platoon behind.

[@hayabusa27]

André Szucs its actually useful too on 100 mile rides not having to worry about wallets and keys falling off back pockets

[@daniellagrimaldi]

I would love to see you fighting 30 MPH side winds on that "Sail"...Good looking though

[@hayabusa27]

Danielle L' Aviere there was no fight, but bike course records instead

[@FSThrottles]

All that aerodynamic stuff and they stick a water bottle bottom flat up front against the wind to displace the purpose.

[@appakinggg]

Proven to be more aerodynamic. To have a water bottle there

[@hayabusa27]

FSThrottles they did use a wind tunnel so pretty sure they weren't 12

[@nicklintner8383]

if you had to guess which "mainstream" brand will take after this frame design who would it be. id think specialized due to the shiv

[@ThetriguyYT]

+NickLintner I honestly think most TT bikes are going to gravitate towards this design if its proven to be a fast as they say.

[@pumajpuma5231]

I think this is the way of the future for tri-bikes, but not TT since that might be a UCI road block. IMHO most Tri-bikes are the testing ground for innovation since the stick up the butt UCI doesn't let much get done in advancements.

[@kevinbutt9273]

NickLintner j

[@erickquezada2642]

Whats up with the music?

[@combofive55]

That's true, you cannot use a disc wheel on the back in Kona. It's against their rules. "For reasons of safety, solid (disc) rear wheels are prohibited at the IRONMAN World Championship; (DSQ)" See page 14 at www.ironman.com/~/media/be213fc6232149e4bae8d97798c106ff/033017%20ironman%20competition%20rules%20%20english%20version%2027%20march%2017%20final.pdf

[@stereosteve7892]

austrian triathlete micheal weiss will use it in kona. look at his facebook page

[@ThetriguyYT]

+stereo steve Very cool, didn't know that!

[@hayabusa27]

stereo steve he broke a bunch of course records too

[@benstewart5334]

You are wrong there was one at Eurobike

[@spyderspic666]

Less talk MORE BIKE!!!!

[@TING-kv6ke]

For?? kg

[@michast6837]

I've bought a Frameset. Now it's ready to race at 10.1 KG with all Storage Installed and 2 Bottle holders.

[@brianstevenson4432]

6000 to 8000 how ridiculous

[@renovatiovr]

Brian Stevenson You are watching a video about a top tier bike. It is not ridiculuous. It would be ridiculuous if walmart bikes cost that much

[@hayabusa27]

Brian Stevenson Thats cheap for a Kona race bike

[@francescocriscuolo8733]

molto bella ed attraente ma la ciclistica di una bici non può essere paragonata a quella di una moto e lo stesso per quanto riguarda l'aerodinamica. per me è solo inutile zavorra, soprattutto in caso di vento laterale.

[@tjlovin247]

I see the gas tank on the right I like that

[@jeffsmith9305]

on "heavy" .. CF basically weighs NOTHING to add aero --

[@bonn1771]

it should be a fast bike

[@hayabusa27]

bonn1771 extremely fast

[@lightofheaven134]

It's illegal in KONA to use disc wheels and that is common knowledge in triathlon world because there are sudden gusts of crosswinds in there and it's too dangerous. you get the idea. You are making your bike like a kite.

[@TO651]

So...you've never even rode the bike but you're doing a review of it?

[@ThetriguyYT]

I have no idea where you're getting that from, I just gave all the facts about the bike, at the time of posting the bike had just been revealed and generating a lot of interest from triathletes. I also gave my opinion on some of the interesting aspects, but I never said that I knew how it rides or handles etc.

[@iYouFee]

Perfect ❤️👌🏼

[@blake.l.h]

What happens in a crosswind.

[@ThetriguyYT]

+Blake Harris that's a good point, we'll have to wait and see what the first testers find.

[@hayabusa27]

Blake Harris crosswinds not a problem on this bike at all

[@99mrdragon99]

Damn it must be heavy bike

[@CoffeeMonster12]

Bruh

[@wahidtrynaheghugh260]

Looks like it will suck in crosswinds

[@hayabusa27]

WahidTrynaHeghugh it didnt and it broke records

[@jeditstudios]

Cervelo P5X is the fastest TT Bike, period.

[@bittersweethood]

best carbon fibre you say?? OMG look at how to frame is flexing , like a piece of paper.

[@iFLYPLANESSS]

This is for Tri's. not TT

[@Killer-ku8nf]

Or you just need to have strong legs...

[@praysuguitan779]

I did not see a bike

[@MadBikeBoy]

You don't know what a MotoGP bike is? Seriously? I stopped watching after that...

[@ThetriguyYT]

+MadBikeBoy lol, sorry man not really my thing.

[@niilee01]

lol they just copied the servile p5x and put it out there as if it would have been their concept ..

[@johncarpenter2172]

LOL not even close to the p5x

[@samsamwai]

核凸

[@hclchgm]

your music is obnoxious, it ruined the video.

[@homo-sapiens-dubium]

A light brush of side wind and you've lost your 0.1% aero time gain due to urgend balancing needs...

[@mamneo2]

The amount of power saved still outperforms other solutions, up to about 30 Km/h winds

[@hayabusa27]

fab0 nope it handled the wind better than expected

[@michast6837]

It runs incredibly stable in crosswinds and actually starts sailing a little bit so that you will have a little extra power!