What are Logitech doing?

[@fawadahmed1005]

The idea of a subscription based mouse is crazy.

[@Mandydeth]

Logi got so comfortable at the top, they forgot what got them there. All the Chinese OEM brands have great pricing, tech, and some even QC.

[@kommandokodiak6025]

yes they did and when the mouse community was telling them that they were dismissive and left the mouse forums telling them that

[@gageh67]

only thing they got better then logitech is price.

[@philip0908]

I'll leave that here: Lamzu Maya X

[@mayfort8573]

@@philip0908That’s my favorite mouse currently. Other Chinese mice half the price are not as good, but they’re still great budget options, especially when you can get 2 or 3 for the price of one.

[@Spyssassinable]

I have the g3 from mchose and the vxe atk r1 pro, both of these mice are better than the superlight 1 and 2. Before i bought these i had the superlight 1.

[@even1313]

Logitech used to be such a great company. But now I think it's what you said, they've grown complacent.

[@LordMidichlorian]

Seeing 44000 DPI at the end and not 88000 DPI was a disappointment.

[@3choblast3r4]

I don't get it. Why do you want 88000 dpi? I play at 3200/1600 dpi and even then there are games who's slowest speed is faster than the speed I want. Is there really any benefit to having higher DPI at that point

[@meunknown69420]

@@3choblast3r4 thats the joke

[@LordMidichlorian]

@@3choblast3r4 Because every number he showed till that was either all 8's or 8's and 0's.

[@milojaks]

Why tf do u even need a high dpi anyway

[@3choblast3r4]

@@milojaks I thought the same, but he's referencing the video lol

[@kesamek8537]

Logitech re-described themselves as a 'Lifestyle brand' like Corsair did, what did we expect?

[@toquita3d]

OMG FINALLY someone talked about the scroll wheel click issue! This is a problem on ALL superlight models (1, 2, DEX). It's completely unacceptable on a 200 USD mouse (what I paid for my GPX2). I'm returning mine after getting a Haste 2, which doesn't have this problem and costs less than 1/3 of the superlight 2.

[@pygiscat1858]

i would reconmed a pulsar x2v2 its one of the best mice out right now and its under 100. while i have never used it i do know people that have and love it or if you dont rule off wired just over the wire get the OP1 8k (watch a review by viscose) she and a few other top aimer (these people are inhuman at aim and uses tons of differant mice), while is haste is good there are so many better options right now

[@toquita3d]

@@pygiscat1858 I tried looking for a X2v2 where I live (Brazil) but they're just as expensive as the GPX2, sometimes more expensive, and the only sellers are dubious. I'll return my GPX2, keep the Haste 2, and there's also aDeathadder V3 (wired) coming next week.

[@sla5303]

@@pygiscat1858 Ive got an X2H and my Scroll wheel is starting to fail after 7 months, the clicks have been a bit crap as well. Shame as its a fantastic mouse...

[@azamatshaimyerdyen6037]

return haste2 immediately, it also has known scroll wheel encoder issue. Mine went bad in a month and I found endless comments about scroll wheel issue on haste2, settled with endgame op1 8k.

[@thegreyestgray]

yeahp, not even my collection of chinese mice have such issues, or maybe I haven't used them enough

[@slaterskizo]

bro i just wanted to say outside the review i suffer from schizophrenia and its really hard when i get overwhelmed with the voices but your videos help me calm down i really enjoy watching your content please keep it up you deserve everything and more king

[@Pes._]

​@@slaterskizo keep that head up king, i cant imagine having it, i always thought it seems like the worst mental condition by far. Right next to schizoaffective disorder but there basically brothers just one comes with a co-morbid. As a person who has family who show early signs of it i hope you dont mind me asking for some anecdotal information. What do you take for it? Have you tried that 6 month shot that i think i heard about half way through 2021?

[@henryhallam5270]

Stay doing my bruda ❤

[@andrewcraft5197]

I have adhd and his videos are nice indeed. But the way her reviews mouses without 8k and all th especs and jjist going for the “cake”... gold

[@pineapplepizza6661]

it took them several years to... make a different shape? 💀

[@cr0wnest]

LULgitech is the worst mouse company to me now. Complacency is the correct word to use on them. I remember how after they hit a massive home run with the first GPW, everything went down hill from there.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

Fr. At least the Superlight mice are decent, their keyboard selection is just infuriatingly tone deaf compared to what Razer and Wooting, and even fucking Steelseries are doing. Fucking. Steelseries. Don't even get me started on Corsair though, that's another company that decided to lobotomize itself after having a few years of success with the k70 before people woke up to higher quality keyboards.

[@randeegunthunter1062]

POP OFF AND PING LIKE A M1 GARAND! That laugh healed my depression. Thank you for that.

[@codyyoung-ps8zu]

Razer has been killing it with their V3 lineups, especially the Viper.

[@OhItsLuCa]

Especially when the scroll wheel starts bugging out after a couple of months 😍

[@PATroll_knocking]

I dont understand why ppl buy these defective products when they can get better quility mouse at similiar(or lower) price.

[@toquita3d]

This is actually the first review video I'm seeing someone talking about this scroll wheel issue. I've watched many reviews of the GPX2 and nobody mentioned it. So I bought one. Then I realized they all have this issue. So I'm returning mine.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

@@toquita3d strongly recommend you buy the op1 8k if you can cope with using a wired mouse (you won't notice the wire after a while). Best mouse I've ever used.

[@VIVIAN81]

People keep asking whats next for gaming mice and I really think it should be improved QC, "batch one" and "unit to unit variance" is getting really old. Obviously there's no such thing as a perfect manufacturing process, but chasing extreme light weights and throwing money at pixart for a better sensor instead of dialing in your product quality is just asinine

[@hansdoreen]

I'll pay $200 if they just make a G703 superlight around 60g. But they spent years for this.

[@JagsP95]

100 less and pulsar will release it soon enough

[@Spyssassinable]

@@JagsP95 I think ATK will release the same since they got the R1 as the exact copy of the x2v2 and the skyrox is the x2h

[@H4VOK_YT]

Forget superlight if they litterally just made a g703 with usb c and a better battery I'd fall to my knees and start crying from joy

[@singlepanic]

@@H4VOK_YT I would've love my G703 to death with these changes. And with also MAYBE a smaaaaaall weight decrement, like 10-15g would be enough. Even after dead wheel and dblclck I'd simply go get another one.

[@H4VOK_YT]

@@singlepanic i mean the wheel and double click is pretty easy to fix with a soldering iron

[@phifedawg8944]

everyone was screaming ITS THE BEST meanwhile im sitting here with these stiff ass switches and mushy ass side buttons wondering where i went wrong in life to drop 150$+ on a mouse and be disappointed

[@mayfort8573]

Some reviewers are paid by large companies like Logitech

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

no they're not. logitech dont even send out review samples.

[@hinchlikescake7592]

I honestly can't tell if Logitech are just trolling with the side buttons. The pingy optical switches are also pretty terrible in feel and sound too.

[@Chef_PewPew]

Should have tried the Zaopin Z2 4k for $65

[@PinaEverlue]

OMG ive also had multiple faulty superlight v2s thats wild. logitech get your qc under control, for a plastic mouse they are one of the more exspensive ones on the market

[@jaydee499]

I wish they would replace the power play with a skate similarly sized to the front. The puck is inconsistent, and no puck gives more friction to the front. For casual players I can see liking the convenience of charging through power play, but this is marketed as a "Pro" mouse. You don't need to charge the mouse so often where you're losing blocks of time connecting to USB.

[@honestddd7381]

new comentry, new script and new drip. same old shiny head. loved it. give me more!!!!!

[@TheSavageB]

Ive also had two faulty super light 2's. Im going to give them one more try, with the DEX. If this does not workout, never again. EDIT: After your review, I canceled the order. I will stick with my Viper V3 pro.

[@paul2609]

Pulsar X3 is using Kailh opticals, not Raesha, it is in the announced spec sheet.

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

ur a spec sheetg

[@paul2609]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews Pulsar's booth and TechPowerUp's coverage of Pulsar at Gamescom 2024 and Pulsar_Ambroise support staff member confirms it to be using Kailh opticals.

[@thenatous_]

is kailh optical as good as omron?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

Ur still a spec sheet tho

[@thenatous_]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews xd

[@YouTubeWatch-np4yq]

Ergonomic Superlight fr

[@Mat-hr1dg]

The day where Logitech would fall behind Razer, especially in QC.... I never EVER thought it possible, but alas...

[@Broax4]

dota 2 camera drag player recognized. You have earned my respect.

[@AmiciCherno]

This has happened to me with 4 different G300s mice, but it's the only mouse on the market currently that can handle my extreme sweat issue due to its shape.

[@CR0WYT]

I was actually hoping something like this would come out... 4 years ago. The 703 is nice, but living in Cali means that the rubber sides would soak up the moisture and would wear down quickly. I would've bought this if only Razer didn't beat them to it first.

[@robind8526]

Logitechs gaming mice feet are indeed a joke. I have the G309 and G502X. And both of them have good feet on them. At the price you are paying you'd think they'd have much better feet on their high-end gaming mice.

[@Macheako]

Bro, ALL I ever wanted from Logitech was a G903 Light Speed ** with a goddamn built-in holder on the mouse for the USB reciever ** ....I'll never get what I want in life, will I ? 🤣🤣

[@tunglamduong3000]

I noticed this downward spiral of Logitech's QC since my previous 3 mice (G102, G403W & G304) exhibiting scroll wheel issues and have stopped recommending their mouse and headsets to my friends since then. The only reason I still keep the 304 is the custom FF14 WHM vinyl wrap that I designed.

[@witsull338]

Hi, just wanted to say I enjoy your editing style and the jokes you use to get your points across. 🙂

[@Alexnike260]

Awesome REVIEW! Love the presentation and how real you keep it. Subscribed!

[@Authentyc]

"PAST SEVERAL YEARSSsss..." 💀

[@xikirito_6809]

its honestly insane to think this mouse cost as much as decent magnesium mice

[@linos1085]

Thumbs up for all the Half Life "quotes" ^^

[@OrianBala]

Superlights engineering team is the same as any software developer nowadays. Drags a 2 hr project into 2 months

[@Zedex_Poisson]

was full logitech around 2020, today I have an op18k, a modded wooting 60he and iem of headphones never going back, logitech is clearly the most lacking tech brand on the gaming market rn

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

op1 8k user spotted, it really is the best, huh? It feels cool knowing that the switches are modular so even if they fail some day, I can buy a new pack and replace them easily.

[@marcusm5127]

I have a Superlight and I love it apart from micro usb and the scroll wheel. The form and feel is good,

[@منتصب]

Mouse feet are fixable but the scroll wheel is a big mistake

[@ssrb7146]

Holy, I never noticed the superlight mouse wheel issue but I just tried it with my superlight 2 and it does the same. Crazy.

[@AOMINE-7]

I used to believe in Logitech when they made a good peripheral with a competitive price. But now, I believe in VXE VGN since they are able to make a great mouse with a cheap price.

[@LCR-ds2ox]

When you realize it's just an Ergonomic Superlight....

[@Mico605]

I had a faulty superlight 1 and never bought logitech again. It was my first $150 mouse, which i still think is a lot of money for a mouse. So it really stung me when after couple of months it started failing. After it i bought a wired razer deathadder 3 and have had 0 complaints about that mouse.

[@lulkaku]

goat ergo is still the intellimouse pro but microsoft won't release a lighter version ever. and fantech will never release their 1:1 clone.

[@BlindBison]

The side buttons look extremely far forward on the SL2 Dex. For palm grip/relaxed finger tip grip I'm genuinely wondering if my thumb will even reach one of them. The more time passes, the more I appreciate what Zowie have achieved with the EC2. The thumbgroove also looks intredibly intense compared to something like the EC2 or even the DA V3 which had a fairly big swoop out. For me a lot of these mice seem like they are laser focused on what works best for claw grip at the expense of their usability for palm. Even if my hands were massive and big enough to reach that furthest forward side button in a palm grip by then my finger would be flying off the end of the clicks no? This mouse looks neat, but I'm just not sure it's for me -- and the SL1 wheel and side buttons were mega crap which doesn't seem to have changed too much going off the reviews I'm seeing for the Dex.

[@pxeh]

I used my superlight 1 for about 2-3 years and noticed that my control with the mouse wasn't nearly as good as when i used my viper mini 3 years ago. So i decided to get a Pulsar X2H. The pulsar mouse IMO feels much nicer in terms of shape, and even felt a little more responsive (could be wrong). All i will say is do your research before you buy. don't get what all the "pros are using" because most of the time, they will have brand deals with that company. I bought my superlight for $220 CAD, and don't like it nearly as much as my pulsar mouse that i got for $100 CAD.

[@halowizzerd]

I had the exact same issue with the scroll wheel on both of my gpx2 mice.

[@Pumpyaa]

My gox superlight 2 started shooting by itself just after a month…

[@bagelbear69]

the middle mouse click portion got me crying man I've not bought logi in 4 years cus of all this shit

[@ProjectFraz]

I hate that logitech discontinued the g600. Its literally my favorite mmo mouse. Also they need to upgrade and give some attention to the mx vertical and mx ergo mice instead of rereleasing superlight mice.

[@baltii41]

thanks for the video! was a logitech fanboy growing up, but my lamzu thorn has been amazing

[@basvhout]

I'm happy for Pulsar that this isn't a real G703 clone so we can still all buy the X3 instead of the Dex that still has a somewhat EC2 backhump/fast slope which I hate.

[@pxeh]

I got an X2H mini, and I love it. More so than my superlight that I used for almost 3 years! Pulsar is a smaller brand in comparison with Logitech, but I see the company growing because they listen to their consumers. The shape feels great, the mouse feels responsive, and all the buttons are smooth IMO. for $100 CAD, it really doesn't get much better than this. I would be very very impressed with pulsar if can make a better mouse with a similar price.

[@brennethd5391]

The scroll wheel thing is true. If they had improved the side buttons and the scroll wheel, it would be a very good mouse. Also, when I push the scroll wheel to the right, it also registers a middle mouse click, but not when I push it to the left. It kinda allows you to tilt it to the left which kinda bothers me.

[@leduyquang753]

I think all mice with mechanical encoders do that as they have a setup with the encoder to the left and the button to the right of the wheel, under the axle. So when pressing the wheel you are really making it slightly tilt to the right.

[@KianFloppa]

im happy with the standard superlight 2. well i had to get it replaced because my normal sized nails ripped the plastic off but whatever free replace...

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

bro claw grip doesn't really mean CLAW grip

[@BishieBishie]

Razer: Hey gamers and enthusiasts, what makes a great mouse in the current market? Oh ok, we will do that then. Logitech: Hey gamers remember the Superlight?

[@lo2k4ever]

Just sharing a quick opinion here. I personally bought the Logitech Superlight 2 DEX and I have to say that the mouse works absolutely perfectly for me. I know there is a lot going against Logitech products but trust me, I've tried SO MANY ergo shapes and NEVER couldn't find one fitting as well as my old Zowie EC2A, I've wasted TONS of money, trying to find the ONE that would replace it as it's an old mouse with old tech inside it and ALWAYS came back to it somehow, something was always feeling off. I'm a big tryharder, Radiant on Valorant, 3K5elo on Faceit, and I can say that Logitech made me so happy with that product as this mouse works like a charm for me. I know it could be better but for now I'm happy as it is

[@esportsfan2118]

dont mind the haters. there's a reason logitech has absolutely dominated the pro scene in many games since the release of the superlight, and will continue to do so. they just make top tier mice with great shape and no gimmicks.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

@@esportsfan2118 Sure, but the price tag is still ridiculously steep compared to the competition. The days of it just being Razer vs Logitech are over, there are now dozens of brands making high quality, no gimmick mice, and they're undercutting Logitech a lot.

[@slepy5883]

I'm not sure logitech know what they're doing either

[@iamthestormthatisapproaching69]

Old Logitech: "We are inspired to create products that fit comfortably at the palm of your hands." Logitech now: "We have TeCHnOlOGY."

[@kanarie]

Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

God DAMN am I happy I got the egg op1 8k and don't have to consider Logitech anymore.

[@aynojs]

I was stuck between buying wired or wireless. Going from the Sensei Ten to the OP1 has helped greatly from fatigue & dropping from 90g to 55g it basically feels wireless. I also bought an HE keyboard which has helped with my control a bit more & zero delay when I shoot because I use space as my primary fire to reduce even more fatigue from my aiming

[@Morsure00]

I will never buy anything Logitech after the idea of subscriptions.

[@jagmeetb]

i remember buying a superlight1, playing 1 game of dota and immediately refunding it cus of the scroll wheel lmao

[@sanskarbhattarai6903]

i need logitech to make a comeback pls i love there mouses especially the superlight but they need to fix up,this should be a wake up call

[@eidolon8816]

G703 superlight without the front flare out. Or a superlight 502, or I dunno. Anything that isn't a slightly modified Zowie or Razer mouse. Everyone is just releasing the same shapes over and over.

[@ka1rig053]

The scroll wheel problem? Sounds like rapid trigger, hall- effect scroll wheel.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

Lmao, now I can imagine hall-effect analog mice - click lightly to shoot a regular projectile, click harder to fire off a missile. I'm surprised it hasn't been done honestly.

[@John-Weak-XD]

I wish they make a G305 superlight. I've been using the Superlight 2 for almost a year now, but I keep coming back to the 305 coz of the shape, since I can't claw grip the superlight 2 comfortably.

[@ShadowNetBG]

Just get Razer Deathadder v3 Hyperspeed. Smaller, lighter, cheaper, fixes all the issues Razer Deathadder v3 Pro had (squeaky side, sensitive scroll).

[@SlickSniper3]

If I'm going to pay $150 for a gaming mouse, I'll atleast buy a wireless Zowie S2 when that comes out. Their build quality is top tier..

[@Poppaai]

It all comes down to the shape, and I love it. And to play devil's advocate here, a lot of pros use the GPX, so they must be doing something right, eh?

[@crypix]

The only thing they got right is shape

[@Poppaai]

@@crypix enough for me

[@fullmetaflak]

and ITS NOT EVEN THE SAME STOCK SKATES YOU HAVE TO WAIT AGAIN FOR THIRD PARTY SKATES

[@Mystic_Chizu]

Tbh i had a G305 and i thought it was great. until the middle mouse button just flat out broke. I had a G400 before that and everything was good except that the cable was flimsy and broke after a few years. Ended up buying the cheapest gaming mouse with a decent sensor i could find and it's surprisingly outlasted my time with the G305.

[@silvernull]

what aren't logitech doing? (using components that won't shit themselves in under a year)

[@MrSongib]

and their "Hub" is still kinda trash too.

[@shapeshifter7676]

In 2020 I chose Razer Viper Ultimate over the G Pro, cuz it was on sale and I feel incredibly lucky for it

[@cringekid69]

Only reviewer that doesnt chill for big brands, this is rare nowadays.

[@ynnadk9859]

I love your editing lol

[@SigmaZer0]

Is it April?!?

[@BlackWolf-of5ce]

Let me speak my truth here for a sec, I never owned an og superlight but I bought a superlight 2 ( I own two. Why I’ll tell u) I bought the black one first it felt amazing the potato was cool to me bc it could adapt to literally any hand grip style. My black unit had heavy clicks and I actually loved it. I bought a second unit bc the coating since day one felt slippery and it never got better. Butttt it was alright. When I got my white unit the coating was perfect and the switches were 50% lighter and I kinda was bummed out. I just got my SUPERLIGHT DEX, yesterday and I’ve been using it for only a day and I can tell u rn the dex is quite literally the real superlight2 like this the mouse that should’ve been named the successor in my opinion. It’s just a fully upgraded shape in my opinion. I’d go as far as to say even tho I like the superlight2 a lot it should’ve just been just a refresh with the marketing being new internals and not branded as a the 2nd one. But that’s just my opinion

[@sandorbence2067]

They developed this over the last few years how Sony developed Concord.

[@toinouH]

I was very happy with the G603 Lightspeed but the scrollwheel killed it (seriously I got drifting)... guess what, I was very happy with the normal superlight and again got drifting. Also the side buttons are a bit too mushy on all these mouses... I wish they fixed the scrollweel.

[@ShooterFPS]

The other name of Logitech mouse is "Double Clicking King " 😊

[@blakkpatron]

wish they could make a lightweight version of the mx500/510/518/g400/g400s

[@jyudat4433]

you're definitely not crazy, just tested my superlight 2's scroll wheel dragging thing :/

[@torr4334]

Do they fix the spin-out issue with their super sensitive "Hero" sensor? 😅

[@MindShackleFilms]

Loved the G903 Wireless, but it developed a double click issue on the Right mouse button. Registers 2 clicks when pressed once. They sent me a G Pro Wireless as a replacement, and now that has a double click issue on the TINY rear thumb button. Will look into a different company for my next mouse. Good customer service, but for $179 CAD I shouldn't need it.

[@JustAFan444]

I haven't seen any good DAV3 Pro vs Dex comparisons. I would love to see one as the original Superlight and the DAV3 Pro are my favorite two mice and one that splits the gap interests me.

[@Tf2SoldierReal]

You didn’t even mention the squishy side buttons, wouldn’t a clixky button be better like on the viper v3 pro.

[@crypix]

I've used the GPX1 for 3 years now. The side buttons were an immediate turn off when I used it for the first time. I thought I would get used to it. 3 years and it still bothers me. Not buying another superlight until they fix that.

[@risaiola]

"new shape"

[@Fliim]

I’ll die with my G305… or at least until it’s no longer compatible with modern hardware…

[@cocoapuffpuffs7374]

Why would I ever use anything higher than 1600 DPI

[@Zaygut]

Sometimes mouse feet on Superlight 1 get's static charged from cloth mousepad adding resistance to moving of a mouse

[@renzeldavid4568]

Tkl rapid seems to be a step to the right direction

[@glashausAimz2]

that's a 90$ mouse right there nowadays

[@tvhx]

Not sure why this wasn't a g703 clone, this shape feels off. I got mine today and play great with it, but the shape is ordinarly to me. Can't justify the price for this!

[@Ejziponken1]

Just got my DEX today. Side buttons a little too high up. Skates are terrible. Software and profiles makes 0 sense.

[@bug-qe1jz]

damn that scroll wheel drag stuff is crazy. thank you for the video it happens on my gpx 2 as well. i wonder what the issue is. internal button is physically too short?

[@KetoRayGaming86]

I've got the Superlight 1 & 2, the last one I just updated to the latest firmware so that it now does support 8k polling.. the battery drain is insane, but idk what would make me buy this DEX version..

[@dedeath]

iunno if the viper v3 pro was a great comparison considering the majority of them shipped with a game breaking sensor issue that stops it from tracking when the mouse is set down. latest firmware fixes it, but the mouse still stutters occasionally when tracking. inexcusable for a 150 dollar mouse. but i do agree they made improvements to the coating, skates and that razer in general is trying to innovate more.

[@ReachTea]

G502X, I have 7 programmable buttons on it, I can never go back

[@s701m5]

same just bought one

[@12bucukfalandim]

just purchased this mouse and I can honestly tell original superlight (v1) is miles better than this garbage. The feed is extremely bad and the optical switches don't really work like mechanical ones. 0/10

[@paul2609]

You're not supposed to eat your mouse

[@yhiz4757]

Superlight 1 ain't even that good either that's how u know the Logitech is complacent lmao

[@mrkoolylegend]

Btw I saw a lot of mice coming out recently like the Lamzu pero and the pulsar x3 , and I thought you would review them considering the pulsar x3 is a g703 inspired and every Lamzu video on your channel have best in it