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Diana, Lady Mosley on Desert Island Discs (Audio Only)

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Күн бұрын

Interview with Diana Mosley, one of the Mitford Sisters, on the popular British radio programme, Desert Island Discs. Biographies include Jan Dalley's "Diana Mosley: A Life," "The Sisters: The Saga of the Mitford Family," by Mary S. Lovell, and Lady Mosley's own "A Life of Contrasts". In reply to one viewer's consternation at her popularity, I replied: "The reasons for peoples' admiration of Lady Mosley are manifold. First and foremost, her aristocratic beauty, gracefulness, and elegance draw people in an almost magnetic way; when something is extremely beautiful or impressive, we forget our prejudices in order to worship at the shrine. Secondly, she is an artifact of a vanished world, so, a voice from the past. Thirdly, she was part of that Pleiades we call the Mitford Sisters, which has always drawn interest. Fourthly, her unjust imprisonment and separation from her sons pulls at the heart strings. Fifly, fascism in the 20s and 30s was a new movement that was successful in many ways and was not connotatively besmirched as it is today. Sixthly, and most "controversially," many do not ascribe to the narrative that has been sounding from government, media, and academe for nigh on seventy years; this is a landmass unto itself, but current voices presenting a broader and deeper range of facts are the KZbin channels TIKHistory and Zoomer Historian and historian David Irving, who was sentenced to three years in jail for presenting "alternative facts". Perhaps Lady Mosley is a kind of lost goddess for these historical heretics."

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@colindasilva2442
@colindasilva2442 10 ай бұрын
like or loathe her - her voice is amazing . such an interesting family/sisters regardless
@davidoneill913
@davidoneill913 5 ай бұрын
Her voice .... Clown
@amanielwolde
@amanielwolde Жыл бұрын
Such a great document ! Thank you for sharing, i read all Lady Diana Mosley books and her Duchesse of Windsor biography. Well all the Mitford sisters books (Nancy, Jessica, Déborah) and Desmond Guinness "Mitford family " book. I live in the same street where she spent her last years, rue de l'Université, and i remember that when Vogue bureaux were here, the editors and journalists ran to the windows to look at Lady Diana Mosley elegantly walking down the street. She was very fond of her philippinos employees, who helped her when she became deaf and she lost her sight.
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 9 ай бұрын
So she was one of the good nazis? I disagree.
@rjmacf0015
@rjmacf0015 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this audio account available. It does indeed reflect a bygone age and a person whose views or form of expression you might not agree with (and I don’t fully understand her to make any view) but in the interview it’s possible to see where these can be miss construed. The evolution of her understanding and honesty as one of very few British people who met and conversed with AH in his native tongue is clear. As is that she in the post war period, she in no way denied the holocaust as an event. How then does the BBC (a state funded broadcaster) think they should choose to suppress this content? The recording gives context to this important figure and the events she personally witnessed. Sadly as clearly shown in the comments added it also reveals how far the understanding of bias (and the general level of education) has fallen. Thank you for making this available and I agree entirely with your description. It seems few of those commenting through their own unveiled vulgarity and bias appear to have the attention span to read.
@simonzonenblick395
@simonzonenblick395 16 күн бұрын
She denies the Holocaust in this very interview. "I don't really, I'm afraid, believe that six million people were ... I think its just inconceivable." She then goes on to suggest it may only have been "one million" - a figure she has plucked from the air without any evidence or source. To start denying proven numbers and casting doubt on official verified figures, is to pull apart the validity of historically recorded fact. She knew exactly what she was doing.
@MrLachlan09
@MrLachlan09 2 ай бұрын
My parents, who were both Scottish always used to say to me, "listen to what the person is saying and ignore how they sound." This is advice I have adhered to all my life. So I listen to Lady Mosley's views and recollections and form my opinion based on what she says, not on how her accent sounds. In doing so I do not defer to her perceived class, nor do I think her comments have more gravity just because they are given in RP. I have read several of her sisters books (Nancy) who ridicules their class and their ideals. To this day people like this still exist, hidden on old country estates around the U.K. It has been my experience encountering these people that without exception they are both polite and gracious. Two traits that are now almost non existent in modern society.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 Жыл бұрын
Talks like my biological father's second wife, whom I adored from my boyhood. Such a pleasure to listen to, compared to the English one has to endure on the msm.
@user-ei2lm6us2e
@user-ei2lm6us2e 4 ай бұрын
A vanishing accent that was the upper class aristocrat
@parisporras6371
@parisporras6371 2 жыл бұрын
What's a Jewel I Just found ! This is one of the few interviews Lady Diana Mittford gave. Such a invaluable record should be not dissapear from KZbin in order to the importance she had as witness of the II WW, her own point of view and how politics confronted a family and the love of the Mitford sisters.
@SusanKlingFinston
@SusanKlingFinston Жыл бұрын
More a Nazi collaborator than witness - of course that is why she was imprisoned as a national security threat after seeking and receiving Nazi blood money for the BUF - Hitler could not resist her charm and more than you.
@58christiansful
@58christiansful 11 ай бұрын
Whether one agrees or disagrees with Diana Mosley’s views and affiliations, she is very interesting to listen to. NB Wouldn’t have happened in these cancellation-infested times.
@jeffryphillipsburns
@jeffryphillipsburns 10 ай бұрын
Baloney. It’s posted here, isn’t it?
@58christiansful
@58christiansful 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffryphillipsburns I meant - that this kind of interview with this particular person wouldn’t have taken place in 2023. She would most certainly not have been invited to be on Desert Island Discs.
@koezkoez1939
@koezkoez1939 5 ай бұрын
At this point I feel the act of cancelling, is perhaps societies initial natural self preservation response, to technology and the plethora of personalities (largely talentless & self invited) . Who occupy and sadly influence our collective consciousness. Once the shine wore off the new technology. awareness of the aggressive advertising model gold mine. That in turn Invited a locust swarm resulting in a reductive form across the board, of the arts, consensus realities . A never ending onslaught of cheap content and cheap products for their own sake There seemed no way for the individual to act, to protect art, information, social behaviour, to retain our heritage/ moral codes, . Simultaneously rewarding the worst kind of people for the lowest standard of end production. The very reason the way early TV packaging from the content to the stars and the rate of it's delivery. A result of an awareness. The public were allowing these people and subject matter intimately to eat dinner with us in our homes and lives. I wonder if it's our first attempt to stem the flow. It would be nice if people were just talented regognised and rewarded for that. Again it's the pendulum swing.
@johnroberts262
@johnroberts262 11 ай бұрын
She's a fascinating lady from an age long passed. Lots admire her honesty.
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 9 ай бұрын
Yes, there are many nazis still.
@davidoneill913
@davidoneill913 5 ай бұрын
And even more detest them thankfully
@perceptoshmegington3371
@perceptoshmegington3371 3 ай бұрын
@@davidoneill913 can you tell the difference between honesty and advocacy?
@judis8972
@judis8972 9 ай бұрын
Regardless of politics what an interesting, well produced and interesting video
@evanjones2539
@evanjones2539 9 ай бұрын
It's not a video, it is a BBC Radio 4 "Desert Island Discs" ...!! Thanks need to be given to Sue Lawley.
@w.almutairi3744
@w.almutairi3744 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@pallhe
@pallhe 9 ай бұрын
She's like some beautiful siren tigress, lovely to behold and listen to, but you rather wonder if she might bite your head off.
@cube435
@cube435 Жыл бұрын
What a marvelous piece of journalism and historical perspective. Brava!
@SusanKlingFinston
@SusanKlingFinston Жыл бұрын
If you like the perspective of a fascist Nazi sympathiser and Holocaust denier I guess this would be your cup of tea. Not mine.
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 Жыл бұрын
Desert Island Discs, how lovely.
@peter2814
@peter2814 2 жыл бұрын
I think Lady Diana Mosley’s choices of music is one of the the best collections of any guest on this programme. I love her honesty, despite Sue Lawley’s mischievous provocations towards controversy, which were so deftly deflected by Lady Diana to avoid any awkward moments. RIP Lady Mosley.
@s4mm01
@s4mm01 2 жыл бұрын
Sure it was fascinating. Especially if you dig traitorous nazis.
@kathygrosvenor4464
@kathygrosvenor4464 Жыл бұрын
@peter2814 Yes, I agree that her collections are brilliant. If only she was as keen in choosing a second husband as she was in music choices, Diana would have been a great asset to Britain during the War. She remains one of my favorite women in History.
@heathenhammer2344
@heathenhammer2344 Жыл бұрын
He was a great man
@hazeshi6779
@hazeshi6779 Жыл бұрын
...suuuuure
@identitywithheld1027
@identitywithheld1027 Жыл бұрын
For those who wondered what Courage, discernment and integrity were. At least she was spared the indignity of being interviewed by the likes of Piers Morgan, Martin Bashir, et al. She called journalism "the nonsense that gets written".
@SusanKlingFinston
@SusanKlingFinston Жыл бұрын
You leave out xenophobia, antisemitism, Nazi-collaboration, etc. Those were her lifelong feelings and commitments.
@rorikkbluetoothh5773
@rorikkbluetoothh5773 Жыл бұрын
​@@SusanKlingFinstonhow brainwashed can you be? There you have it, what your allies and those who hold the strings did and still do to your country and the world. But you call it less evil than that bs you blame the others for. How entitled and moral self engranded can you possible be??
@jeffryphillipsburns
@jeffryphillipsburns 10 ай бұрын
Yes, the “courage” to side with pure evil, the “discernment” to turn a blind eye to pure evil, and the “integrity” not to dilute that pure evil. She needed NOT to be “spared” “indignity”. Her “dignity” was all undeserved class privilege, and she abused that privilege appallingly.
@mattkierkegaard9403
@mattkierkegaard9403 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffryphillipsburnsPure evil? The Soviets murdered more people than the Nazis and even the good old US of A forced Japanese into concentration camps and ultimately dropped atomic bombs on Japanese civilians.
@rorikkbluetoothh5773
@rorikkbluetoothh5773 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffryphillipsburns there is something even worse than being evil, they say. Being an idiot. Read it. They say they are worse than evil ones. Maybe you'd like to consider you have been brainwashed. I mean look: 4 allies won and wars haven't stopped and things are even worse almost 80 years after ending of ww2. Maybe the winners were not the good ones? Maybe General Patton was right? Maybe you have been fed with rubbish? Stop repeating nonsense and start to THINK for a change. Besides there are many things that were said then and in our times and have been officially accepted as lies. Read about that then. But if you always feed from the same source... you are always going to be BSted on. Time to wake up for you too.
@sarrabelaskri4460
@sarrabelaskri4460 Жыл бұрын
I don't think she ever regretted being a fascist, she probably regretted the consequences of having been a commited fascist i.e going to jail. I suppose given her upper-class background and her connection to Churchill, she couldn't possibly imagine ever being sent to jail. She's obviously one of those people who think the law is for the common man not for them. The fact of the matter is she was deeply involved in her husband's political activity, she made several trips to Germany, established close ties with top nazi officials , in the context of a war, no wonder she was perceived as a potential threat by the government.
@martinfpavey
@martinfpavey Жыл бұрын
Funnily though, her position was ANTI-WAR, that's why she was imprisoned.
@mikhailbabushkinum
@mikhailbabushkinum Жыл бұрын
Nevertheless she was a fine person
@sarrabelaskri4460
@sarrabelaskri4460 Жыл бұрын
@@mikhailbabushkinum Sure, if you like classy upper-class fascist women why not ...
@mikhailbabushkinum
@mikhailbabushkinum Жыл бұрын
@@sarrabelaskri4460 very much , I don’t know why communists are celebrated whilst fascists aren’t
@sarrabelaskri4460
@sarrabelaskri4460 Жыл бұрын
@@mikhailbabushkinum Did i even mention communists ?
@carfran53
@carfran53 2 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent and classy lady.
@emc7056
@emc7056 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes - the height of class has always been fascism.
@maureenleigh4724
@maureenleigh4724 Жыл бұрын
She was utterly misguided..
@emc7056
@emc7056 Жыл бұрын
@@Microspectrophotometer What's right with fascism?
@rorikkbluetoothh5773
@rorikkbluetoothh5773 Жыл бұрын
​@@emc7056id fascism would have won... you would still have a country. And the world would not have been destroyed by the four satanic allies.
@AugustDH
@AugustDH 6 ай бұрын
@@MicrospectrophotometerAs with communism, the trouble with facism is often found in the implementation.
@jmburde656
@jmburde656 2 жыл бұрын
My distant cousin…such a fascinating woman
@SusanKlingFinston
@SusanKlingFinston Жыл бұрын
You mean for a fascist, xenophobic, antisemitic Nazi collaborator who actually solicited - and received - Nazi blood-money for the BUF and who celebrated her wedding in Berlin, at the home of Joseph Goebels with Hitler as the guest of honor at her Nazi wedding? Who was unrepentant to her last breath? Who tried to lobby Churchill to meet Hitler and to accept the annihilation of the European Jews - not to mention Trade Unionists, Socialists, Christians, Homosexuals, political opponents, and other “subhumans” - all as a reasonable cost to pay in return for ‘maintaining the Empire and living in peace with Germany? I see.
@dianacantrell1190
@dianacantrell1190 Жыл бұрын
In this day and age she would be in cancelled in minutes. What a richness of diversity we would have lost. Time and change is normal. I think her whole family were most amusing! 😎
@Peter-ov6xh
@Peter-ov6xh 11 ай бұрын
Striking photo.
@countykerry6953
@countykerry6953 Жыл бұрын
Curious as to what her parents thought of Oswald ?
@andrjsh
@andrjsh Жыл бұрын
I do not recall, but if you are a reader, might I suggest "Diana Mosley A Life," by Jan Dalley or "The Sisters," by Mary S. Lovell?
@countykerry6953
@countykerry6953 Жыл бұрын
@@andrjsh thank you.
@amanielwolde
@amanielwolde Жыл бұрын
Her parents were more concerned by the scandalous relationship, the fact that they were both married. They were against her divorce from her husband, Bryan Guinness. But Lady Diana left him, she moved in a townhouse in London, her parents had forbidden all her younger sisters to visit her. Despite Diana car accident in Italy in 1932.("Diana Mosley a Life" Jan Dalley)
@SusanKlingFinston
@SusanKlingFinston Жыл бұрын
They both loved Hitler at the time. Their only concern was the scandal.
@rogerdodger8349
@rogerdodger8349 Жыл бұрын
Love her. She is Lady Mosley because of her marriage to Sir Oswald Mosley. She is not Lady Diana Mosley, since she does not hold the title Lady in her own right.
@andrjsh
@andrjsh Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarification.
@AulicExclusiva
@AulicExclusiva 8 ай бұрын
Her father was a peer, she has a right to be called Lady Diana. As for Sir Oswald, he was not a knight, but a hereditary baronet.
@davidtanycoed
@davidtanycoed 5 ай бұрын
24 years ago I would of thought this woman to be a nut case, now, thankfully, but frighteningly, too late, I realise I was😒😢. Wake up everyone
@merriferrell2818
@merriferrell2818 Ай бұрын
Kept the Empire out of the war to align with Hitler's, whose plans included starving to death most of Easter Europe? Also "should have thought."
@kathygrosvenor4464
@kathygrosvenor4464 Жыл бұрын
Regardless how many times I listen to this brilliant interview, it continues to be a most interesting look into this fascinating woman. I disagree wholeheartedly with her politics and most certainly with her choice of a husband. However, I did not know Hitler personally. He may well have been “charming” as well as “interesting” due to who she was and what she might possibly bring to the table. Diana had a front row seat for Hitler’s rise to Chancellor and as she stated, he must have something in order to go from an out of work painter to the chancellor of such a large, modern country as Germany. What would I have thought of him had I been introduced behind the headlines and in private? We, of course, see him as the murderer of millions of people. Diana claims when she knew him those atrocities hadn’t yet happened. But they did happen, yet her fondness for him continued. Reconciling the evil of Hitler and his charming ways is impossible. She knew a far different individual than we came to know and despise. Diana will always fascinate me. My intolerance for her second husband will never wane and will always disappoint me insofar as her abominable choice in him. Thank you for this wonderful interview, whose music has delighted me
@andrjsh
@andrjsh Жыл бұрын
I am glad that you like it & am very gratified that so many people are watching and commenting on this interview. For my part, I find in Diana Mosley a gallery of inexplicably enthralling traits, her most magnetic being her aristocratic mien and her integrity in the face of the modern world, which shimmer against the happenstance of her living and playing a role in history at one of its crucial junctures. As well, as one of that perennially engaging sorority called the Mitford sisters, she displays a culture and intelligence undiscoverable in today's world, that is, by being raised and educated at home in cultured circles, she became an individual. She and her sisters' lives give the lie to the notion of homogenous education and mass culture.
@55tranquility
@55tranquility Жыл бұрын
Well he didn’t become chancellor of a large modern Germany, it was the fact that Germany at the time the Weimar Republic had gone through a period of devastation, including hyperinflation after WWI, then a period of stability then again seriously impacted by the Great Depression caused great unemployment and economic instability. Hitler was able to exploit this situation, blaming it on the treaty of Versailles and the Jews - he exploited the Reichstag fire incident to and following state of emergency by reducing civil liberties, remove constitutional governance and in the end completely remove democracy - placing the nazis in sole power. He used a weak government system, unemployment and feelings of grievance against the treaty of versailles - to appeal to the base and easy answers to problems by blaming them on minority groups - a classic move used by many dictators and politicians to achieve their goals without actually fixing the actual problems. The nazis plunged germany into complete and utter devastation during and after ww2 - the war was hopelessly lost but by refusing to surrender Hitler subjected the civilian population to horrific and unnecessary suffering and then killed himself leaving the population in despair and devastation. Post WW2 and with the start of the cold war, it was the with American aid that Germany could rebuild and then become the power house it is today. Hitler was a complete idiot whose terrible military blunders caused him to lose the war, not least invading Russia - he was a drug addict addicted to a concoction of drugs given to him by his quack Dr, he was a hypochondriac and meglomaniac who exploited a situation to wreak the most horrific cruelty on the human race the world has endured.
@SusanKlingFinston
@SusanKlingFinston Жыл бұрын
When she says they had not occurred she lies. Many atrocities and horrors weee committed by Hitler and the Nazis - long predating her first meeting. The Dachau concentration camp was in operation in 1933. She lies without shame.
@stoke101
@stoke101 Жыл бұрын
I suppose the fondness for the likes of Tony Blair and George Bush still continue. Even though they are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians. I suppose it’s all dependent on which history you choose to remember and which you don’t!
@SusanKlingFinston
@SusanKlingFinston Жыл бұрын
​@@stoke101 It was Hitler who she admired to her dying day and Mosley who she loved to her dying breath. Both were avowed antisemites, racists and fascists in their hearts and their deeds. Hitler sought to kill all Jews in Europe and beyond, and succeeded in murdering six million and causing the deaths of 70 -85 more who perished during the course of WWII - that is fully 3% of world population in the 1940s. And Mosely was an indefatigable Hitler supporter and practiced Holocaust denier. Please stop with the false equivalence.
@julietyler8074
@julietyler8074 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how deferential to class we still are. She flirts with holocaust denial and has no regrets about the BUF. It's not made better because it is delivered in a cut glass accent. It is an education in entitlement.
@johnohara197
@johnohara197 2 жыл бұрын
You make a good point; she is all the things you rightly say! However, she also had such a compelling personality! She was very deluded regarding many aspects of her life, blaming the labour party for her and her husband's imprisonment! It was a real shock to her when she did find out that it was her sister Nancy that went to Churchill asking for them both to be locked up and writing that they were both dangerous traitors and a security risk! However, she was so stubborn she could block things out and rewrite anything she did not like about her life! Thank you
@marie-ramaghurburrun9204
@marie-ramaghurburrun9204 Жыл бұрын
She speaks the truth. Yes, history has been re-written but not by her, but by the "victors" of course and repeated endlessly for 80 years but that does not make it the truth. Show me one other leader (or any man or woman at all) who is an animal loving, vegetarian and artist with the evil mindset of a crazed dictator hell-bent on extermination and world domination. Not one has ever existed and nor will one ever exist. Did you know that Hitler had pacts with both the Irish and the Native Americans to help them acheive their soveriegnity and take back the land that had been stolen from them? The big clue to why WWII was inevitable lies in knowing the true meaning of Facism and not the commonly held meaning. Clue... is has to do with private banks and who is in charge of creating a country's money supply and thus the ability to enslave via debt. Did you know that true Facism supports PRIVATE (debt free) OWNERSHIP as opposed to Communism which absolutely opposes that - hence why Communists hate Facists? Did you know that International Jewry announced a declaration of war against Germany in 1933 - 6 to 7 years before the start of the war, for these very reasons? To this day, no economist has been able to understand how Hitler's government was able to take a country from dire poverty, rampant hunger and homelessness and absolutely massive unemployment far in excess of the "Great Depression" and transform and re-build an entire country, house (via PRIVATE ownership) and employ almost the entire population and help design the cheapest car possible to make PRIVATE travel accessible to all (Volkswagon - folks wagon or peoples car) all in the space of just 7 to 8 years. How many decades or hundreds of years has our government had to acheive this and failed? The reason this was possible and never been duplicated is because Hitler kicked out the private bankers that were milking the country and it's people dry and hence why International Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933. The jews who owned the private banks and much of global media started a global propaganda attack on Hitler and Germany culminating in the most atrocious lies imaginable. He had to be stopped at all costs before other countries realised what was possible without the debt placed on them by private banks. Did you know that both Churchill's and Roosevelt's most closest and most trusted advisors were both jews? Did you know that there were around 250,000 jews in the German army? Hitler didn't hate jews per se (though he came to intensely dislike the elite jews), it was the jews that relentlessly hated him, just as Diana Mitford described how it was for her husband. I could go on for hours...
@yuntakukai1002
@yuntakukai1002 Жыл бұрын
Is there some problem?
@owenmccord5078
@owenmccord5078 Жыл бұрын
My wife commented essentially the same thing (in her own brief NYer sort of way) when listening to a documentary on her earlier today.
@glenmorgan8503
@glenmorgan8503 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. You only have to see the BBC's reaction to the death of the Queen and it illustrates how fawning the establishment is towards people of privilege. Vomit inducing..
@itsame2649
@itsame2649 3 ай бұрын
I'm shocked by the amount of admiration for Diana Mosley in the comments. She was a fascist through and through, vehement supporter of Hitler. How can anyone talk positively about her?
@andrjsh
@andrjsh 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the reply. The reasons for peoples' admiration of Lady Mosley are manifold. First and foremost, her aristocratic beauty, gracefulness, and elegance draw people in an almost magnetic way; when something is extremely beautiful or impressive, we forget our prejudices in order to worship at the shrine. Secondly, she is an artifact of a vanished world, so, a voice from the past. Thirdly, she was part of that Pleiades we call the Mitford Sisters, which has always drawn interest. Fourthly, her unjust imprisonment and separation from her sons pulls at the heart strings. Fifly, and most "controversially," many do not ascribe to the narrative that has been sounding from government, media, and academe for nigh on seventy years; this is a landmass unto itself, but current voices presenting a broader and deeper range of facts are the KZbin channels TIKHistory and Zoomer Historian and historian David Irving, who was sentenced to three years in jail for presenting "alternative facts". Perhaps Lady Mosley is a kind of lost goddess for these historical heretics.
@avian8338
@avian8338 11 ай бұрын
Sue Lawley behaves better and sounds a lot posher when she's speaking to an aristocrat. Compare this with her interview with Ian Mckellen.
@glennsmith7311
@glennsmith7311 10 ай бұрын
Came here after the recent The Rest is History podcasts on British Fascism. Whenever we get nostalgic for the pre internet world we should pop old Di here on for a reminder of how Shoah apologists were hiding in plain sight. Got to give it to her for her tenacity and sheer bald faced gall in defending the worst excesses of that generation's ingrained racism and anti Semitism. Even her music was fascist in tone, of course she loved Wagner! A skin crawling exercise, but an important one nonetheless, recommending listening if only to remind ourselves of how we should be ever vigilant against this type of evil.
@annehebert510
@annehebert510 10 ай бұрын
Dominic Sandbrook isn't far off, a Daily Mail apologist.
@jeffryphillipsburns
@jeffryphillipsburns 10 ай бұрын
The point you’re missing is that the Internet amplifies fascist propaganda by several orders of magnitude. There were a few European fascist countries in the thirties, but at least the United States was not then a hair’s breadth from being overtaken as it is now. As of this writing (10/29/23) we have a new fascist Speaker of the House, and the Republican Party is set to nominate a fascist for president by an overwhelming margin.
@mattkierkegaard9403
@mattkierkegaard9403 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffryphillipsburnsHow exactly does the internet amplify “fascism” when all the Tech Overlords sway into Marxism? As for America and its politics, again, the vast majority of American media sways into Marxism and yet you somehow think the speaker of the congress (only third in line to power) places America within a breath of “fascism”. C’mon, that logic might work for a university paper or an interview at Google but really 🤪
@mattkierkegaard9403
@mattkierkegaard9403 10 ай бұрын
Or you could simply listen to her and remind yourself at how far British society and western education has fallen, beneath even the Shoah apologists of yesteryear. Yeah you could do that or you could get back to paying off that bank debt you owe to the international financiers 🥸
@pallhe
@pallhe 9 ай бұрын
​@@mattkierkegaard9403You appear to be confusing "Marxism" with "centrist" or "slightly left of centre", depending on which media outlets you're referring to. Where would you place Fox News on the political spectrum?
@6deste
@6deste 10 күн бұрын
Amazing lady, an amazing life. The bbc being, well, the awful bbc.
@stregalilith
@stregalilith 10 ай бұрын
Rubenstein played Chopin better than anyone but then of course he was Jewish so she wouldn’t have chosen him
@releasingendorphins232
@releasingendorphins232 Жыл бұрын
This interview was so shocking to me. Was she not aware of all of Hitler's prison camps? Surely she wasn't in touch with the outcome of them hatred. I will have to study up on those to figure out why she is so beloved.
@andrjsh
@andrjsh Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. I believe that late in the interview she does allude to the camps. However, since her admiration for fascism had already crystallized, any alteration of her views would have been less probable. Also, since "the winners write history" and she was on the losing side, she naturally would question or deny the assertions of the victors. (The cut-in-stone number of six million Jews dying came out in, I think, April or March of '45, long before an accurate tally could have been made.). Lastly, those on the Left shut down all openness to truth when faced with roll after roll of the dead under socialism.
@adamjeffries7235
@adamjeffries7235 9 ай бұрын
of course she KNEW. she supprted them., she divorced a very rich husband to be the mistress of the head fascist. her sister unity was the obsessive girlfriend of hitler and after she attempted suicide divorced her hisband because he was not sufficiently fascist ( he was fascist in peacetime but not during war)
@adamjeffries7235
@adamjeffries7235 9 ай бұрын
she is a lying sack of shit with a lovely. she frames HER fascist anti jew ( which was not let us be clear a private matter but a public policy that involved murdering them and stealing there possessions homes. she frames it as the reverse. that is beyond the pale. shameless. in this intervoew she denies STILL that the death camps produced the recorded desth. if this isnt hate speach then please explain what is?
@jozefserf2024
@jozefserf2024 Ай бұрын
She lived through those times. Did you?
@stuzo666
@stuzo666 Жыл бұрын
She was the most elegant lady and beautiful, I wish I could have met her, I would have died for her x
@tadhgoruadhan8433
@tadhgoruadhan8433 Жыл бұрын
She was a fascist.
@stuzo666
@stuzo666 Жыл бұрын
@@tadhgoruadhan8433 fascism is better than what we have today in ukstan, if we had listened she alone would have averted ww2
@legendofthefall7082
@legendofthefall7082 Жыл бұрын
She was a fucking Nazi
@stuzo666
@stuzo666 Жыл бұрын
@@legendofthefall7082 AND........... ? If we had listened to her and her husband we would not have went to war, losing 50 million lives and devastated this once great country into the shithole it is today !
@hazeshi6779
@hazeshi6779 Жыл бұрын
And what do you have now?
@MrSkeeja
@MrSkeeja Жыл бұрын
She sounds like a female version of Rees - Mogg
@larslar1520
@larslar1520 Жыл бұрын
Rees-Mogg does not support Miners or 'The Workers' as Sir Oswald Mosley genuinely fought for
@MrSkeeja
@MrSkeeja Жыл бұрын
@@larslar1520 Mosley was a Fascist. How can a Fascist who believes in an extreme right wing one party state be for the people? Mosley and the nasty old women in this video got married in Goebbels house! Are you going to suggest that the Nazis were for the workers?
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 Жыл бұрын
A good comparison: impeccable manners, impeccably good sense, impeccable modesty and no hypocrisy.
@metalguy098
@metalguy098 8 ай бұрын
She has good taste in music. What a decent, civilised woman. If only there were more of her. If her ideology had won, the world would be a better place today. Nazism is far easier to understand if you have a deep emotional appreciation and connection for Wagner's music. Wagner's music is the best music ever made by any human on earth. The Liebestod is the best piece of music ever made. Its almost hard to believe that one man 200 so years ago wrote it with nothing more than pen and paper. Such a conversation like this wouldn't happen in todays day and age. You can learn so much from this. Most of her music choices I'm already familiar with. Stephen Fry would agree with her choice of music ironically.
@andrjsh
@andrjsh 8 ай бұрын
My own favorite Wagnerian works are "Tannhauser" & "Parsifal".
@metalguy098
@metalguy098 8 ай бұрын
​@@andrjsh You are one of the few people that can appreciate Wagner. Tannhauser overture is so brilliant and emotionally overwhelming.
@andrjsh
@andrjsh 8 ай бұрын
@@metalguy098 "Beglukt darf nun duch o Heimat inch schsuen..." if I spelled that all right
@LeighRichards27
@LeighRichards27 7 ай бұрын
Yes Nazism is very easy to understand - just look at the horrific images from auschwitz, belsen and dachau. And if her insane ideology had won hundreds of millions more human beings would have been exterminated or turned into slaves.
@F_Bardamu
@F_Bardamu 9 ай бұрын
Politeness and refinement on the outside, inhumanity and willful ignorance on the inside. The epitome of "don't judge a book by its cover".
@johnohara197
@johnohara197 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help but be fascinated by Diana! There is no drought that she was anti-Semitic and had a holocaust denial mentality, she admired Hitler and many of her beliefs where objectionable. The other side of her character showed charm, wit, loyalty, intelligence and courage! It's sad, that even at this stage of her life, she blames the labour party for her and her husband's imprisonment! She was very deluded regarding many aspects of her life. It was a real shock to her when she did find out that it was her sister Nancy that went to Churchill asking for them both to be locked up and writing that they were both dangerous traitors and a security risk! However, she was so stubborn she could block things out and rewrite anything she did not like about her life! However, I do admire her courage! Thank you
@stuzo666
@stuzo666 Жыл бұрын
You were wrong on a few points re the holocaust
@FC-sk8wx
@FC-sk8wx Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you should consider her testimony as truth instead of blindly going along with what the MSM are imposing on us all .. Or another idea, do an in depth study on the wars as I have, not through the history books, but look up what people like these say and find out for yourself if they are true or not. You will be very surprised.
@marie-ramaghurburrun9204
@marie-ramaghurburrun9204 Жыл бұрын
She speaks the truth. Yes, history has been re-written but not by her, but by the "victors" of course and repeated endlessly for 80 years but that does not make it the truth. Show me one other leader (or any man or woman at all) who is an animal loving, vegetarian and artist with the evil mindset of a crazed dictator hell-bent on extermination and world domination. Not one has ever existed and nor will one ever exist. Did you know that Hitler had pacts with both the Irish and the Native Americans to help them acheive their soveriegnity and take back the land that had been stolen from them? The big clue to why WWII was inevitable lies in knowing the true meaning of Facism and not the commonly held meaning. Clue... is has to do with private banks and who is in charge of creating a country's money supply and thus the ability to enslave via debt. Did you know that true Facism supports PRIVATE (debt free) OWNERSHIP as opposed to Communism which absolutely opposes that - hence why Communists hate Facists? Did you know that International Jewry announced a declaration of war against Germany in 1933 - 6 to 7 years before the start of the war, for these very reasons? To this day, no economist has been able to understand how Hitler's government was able to take a country from dire poverty, rampant hunger and homelessness and absolutely massive unemployment far in excess of the "Great Depression" and transform and re-build an entire country, house (via PRIVATE ownership) and employ almost the entire population and help design the cheapest car possible to make PRIVATE travel accessible to all (Volkswagon - folks wagon or peoples car) all in the space of just 7 to 8 years. How many decades or hundreds of years has our government had to acheive this and failed? The reason this was possible and never been duplicated is because Hitler kicked out the private bankers that were milking the country and it's people dry and hence why International Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933. The jews who owned the private banks and much of global media started a global propaganda attack on Hitler and Germany culminating in the most atrocious lies imaginable. He had to be stopped at all costs before other countries realised what was possible without the debt placed on them by private banks. Did you know that both Churchill's and Roosevelt's most closest and most trusted advisors were both jews? Did you know that there were around 250,000 jews in the German army? Hitler didn't hate jews per se (though he came to intensely dislike the elite jews), it was the jews that relentlessly hated him, just as Diana Mitford described how it was for her husband. I could go on for hours...
@stuzo666
@stuzo666 Жыл бұрын
She alone could have stopped ww2 she was an iconic figure , she pointed out many times that isn't it strange that Britain befriended stalin and chairman Mao, why churchill even drunk stallins health ( he was a drunkard) and said he was a statesman we can trust. SO, as stalin and Mao killed millions of their own people, far much than Hitler ever did ? That's what she pointed out many many times yet these atrocities were conveniently ignored. If only we had listened, even at 93 she was beautiful x RIP xx
@johnohara197
@johnohara197 Жыл бұрын
@@stuzo666 Pray, do explain what points you think I am incorrect about, concerning the holocaust and Diana's opinions concerning it? Thank you.
@adam_p99
@adam_p99 5 ай бұрын
I was expecting to hear some Prodigy. I bet she secretly raved to Firestarter.
@misspurrr-fect3684
@misspurrr-fect3684 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to Sue Lawley ? 🤔
@andrewrobinson8305
@andrewrobinson8305 2 жыл бұрын
Dead.
@bojack40
@bojack40 Жыл бұрын
She retired
@davidoneill913
@davidoneill913 5 ай бұрын
On a fat pension ......kudos
@Sam-cz2bz
@Sam-cz2bz Жыл бұрын
Her eyes look piercing cold ice Ice blue. She looks mean as heck
@simongroves882
@simongroves882 Жыл бұрын
Why was this allowed ?
@Microspectrophotometer
@Microspectrophotometer Жыл бұрын
why was what allowed?
@phil3924
@phil3924 Жыл бұрын
Evidently Jewish interests hadn’t totally taken over the BBC at that point.
@Jordan-ey5vd
@Jordan-ey5vd Жыл бұрын
Because we live in a free world you loser
@Mike8981
@Mike8981 Жыл бұрын
Yes, i demand to know why this was allowed. 😂
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 Жыл бұрын
@@Microspectrophotometer Mr Dickinson's asking why Lady Diana was allowed to be on the programme. In spite of there being nothing whatsoever objectionable about what she says, she should have been forbidden to appear. In the name of caring and compassion. As Lady Diana says, 'If you don't like someone, you attack them.'
@patohare5254
@patohare5254 10 ай бұрын
How lovely, a posh british fascist - such a shame we don't hear more views like this on the BBC
@perceptoshmegington3371
@perceptoshmegington3371 4 ай бұрын
A diversity of viewpoints on the BBC? Good luck with that
@MrSkeeja
@MrSkeeja Жыл бұрын
I find it amazing how people are commenting in such a positive fashion about a treacherous, racist Hitler loving Fascist
@Microspectrophotometer
@Microspectrophotometer Жыл бұрын
Can you give me one single example of racism or love for Hitler or treachery from Diana or Oswald? I bet you won't have a single argument or a single piece of evidence to support your foolish claims. The only thing you got right is that they were Fascists. And what exactly is wrong with Fascism?
@MrSkeeja
@MrSkeeja Жыл бұрын
@@Microspectrophotometer Love for Hitler. The woman is on record as saying she liked Hitler. They go married in Goebbels house. They frequently visited Nazi Germany. Mosley and his idiotic thuggish supporters wore quasi Nazi uniforms and held rallies during which Mosley yelled and ranted about Hitler. They also gave Nazi style salutes. They were virulently anti semitic and used to march through the east end taunting the Jews. In the end they got kicked out in Cable Street. They were an obvious security threat in WW2 which is why they were locked up. What is wrong with Fascism? Far right authoritarianism which doesn't allow freedom of expression. Exerts strict control over the citizens. Locks up dissenting voices. No chance of peaceful change of government. Sounds hideous to me
@Microspectrophotometer
@Microspectrophotometer Жыл бұрын
@@MrSkeeja Mosley was not anti-semitic at all actually. The Roman salute (or as you call it "the Nazi salute") has been around since ancient Rome and is not specifically Hitler's salute. Can you show me any example where he praises Hitler in his speech? I have personally read some of his books, where it's written black on white that he condemns the vial crimes inflicted on the jews during WW2 by the German Nazi party. The reason him and Diana got married in Germany is because that was the only way, at the time, to keep the marriage a secret temporarily, so as not to place a target on Diana's back. The Fascism you are describing is actually not at all what Mosley had planned for Britain, had he won. In his book "100 questions about Fascism" he depicts a system which sounds like a better democracy with improved elections and *actual* freedom of speech.
@Microspectrophotometer
@Microspectrophotometer Жыл бұрын
@@MrSkeeja Also the people who attacked the BUF on Cable Street were a bunch of filthy commies and anarchists
@MrSkeeja
@MrSkeeja Жыл бұрын
@@Microspectrophotometer Social Democratic Fascism?
@orion8835
@orion8835 2 жыл бұрын
She was a very annoying person full of delusion. At either rate her actual name address upon marrying her second husband was: The Hon. Lady Mosley. After he dropped dead it would had been The Hon. Diana, Lady Mosley. Her depictions here and in Peakey Blinders constantly mess up the title. Only daughters of dukes, earls and viscounts are Lady____ first name -- then last name. Her father was a baron. She was born an honourable. When she married a Baronet she became Lady Mosley. Only when the spouse dies does her first name get into the mix and it is before the title with a comma preceding the lady____ then name.
@BradleyWilliams-vu4us
@BradleyWilliams-vu4us 3 ай бұрын
Hitlr has only got one bll
@hadrianmonk
@hadrianmonk Жыл бұрын
I always wondered why the German National-socialist movement was so appealing to members of the British aristocracy? Maybe the idea of belonging to a superior caste?
@andrjsh
@andrjsh Жыл бұрын
Well, the British aristocracy at that time was, arguably, at the pinnacle of world civilization, given the size of the Empire. I would want to know who else was markedly interested and what reasons they gave. It could have been a hybridization of established nationalism, patriotism, &c. with this new experiment in government, socialism.
@andro99991
@andro99991 3 ай бұрын
British aristocracy was also horrified how Russian aristocracy was treated after the revolution and considered fascism to be a strong bulwark against communism. Communist movement was also very strong in Great Britain in the 1920s and 1930s and everyone was afraid of the possibility of a communist revolution. Mosley and his fascists were seen as the lesser of two evils. Lots of Britons (especially the aristocracy) also thought that Germany was treated unfairly after WW1 and that the Entente powers imposed too harsh conditions after the surrender of Imperial Germany in 1918. They thought Germany deserved her place among European great powers and saw Hitler as the person who will lead Germany back to where she belonged. British King and German Keiser were cousins and some British aristocratic houses had German origins or were related to German aristocracy through marriages. Also, back then, anti-Semitism was rampant in Europe, including Great Britain, including the aristocracy. Jews were blamed for the Great Depression and a lot of people, even outside Germany, thought Hitler was right about them. Of course, back then the plans for the "final solution" and extermination of Jews had not been put in place yet and no one could have known there would be a Holocaust, everyone thought Hitler would "merely" deport the Jews and confiscate some of their property, and sadly, a lot of people thought that was the right thing to do.
@hadrianmonk
@hadrianmonk Ай бұрын
Thank you both for your comprehensive answers and for sharing very interesting points-of-view!
@JohnEdwardBerry
@JohnEdwardBerry Жыл бұрын
Hitler only had one ball. The other was in the Albert Hall 😂😂😂
@perceptoshmegington3371
@perceptoshmegington3371 4 ай бұрын
Classic
@jeffryphillipsburns
@jeffryphillipsburns 10 ай бұрын
Yes, let’s find out what records Nazi’s listen to. (This is irony.)
@andrjsh
@andrjsh 10 ай бұрын
Well, my playlist has an interview with her Communist sister, Jessica, if you hunger for variety.
@fivegirl
@fivegirl 6 ай бұрын
What a perfect example of aloof evil.
@Bricameron
@Bricameron 10 ай бұрын
Retained her fascist beliefs till the end. Horrible human being.
@vapordreams983
@vapordreams983 8 ай бұрын
She was based
@Bricameron
@Bricameron 8 ай бұрын
@@vapordreams983 I’m not up on the lingo of the day. What does based mean?
@minui8758
@minui8758 2 ай бұрын
@@Bricameronit’s a code word used by right wing extremists meaning “that’s suitably right wing enough for my tastes”
@WILLIAM1690WALES
@WILLIAM1690WALES 2 жыл бұрын
Antisemitic Mosley and his concubine where imprisoned but in very favourable circumstances in comparison with the so-called black shirt of the union of Fascists, these were part of the English establishment of minor gentry and aristocracy and they looked after their own, this concubine referred to English too many times and to me as a British Celtic loyalists I find her and her departed husband as traitors to Britannia.🇬🇧🇺🇦🇬🇧
@vidaamoryrisa1493
@vidaamoryrisa1493 Жыл бұрын
You can't say more stupid things in such a short time. Mosley has been the greatest and wisest politician the UK has ever had and will ever have. He was not an anti-Semite, because of race, you ignorant piece of shit. And his beautiful wife Diana, a delightful creature in every way.
@stuzo666
@stuzo666 Жыл бұрын
You are a fool she knew all the answers but no one would listen, look at our once great country today, a total shithole
@marie-ramaghurburrun9204
@marie-ramaghurburrun9204 Жыл бұрын
She speaks the truth. Yes, history has been re-written but not by her, but by the "victors" of course and repeated endlessly for 80 years but that does not make it the truth. Show me one other leader (or any man or woman at all) who is an animal loving, vegetarian and artist with the evil mindset of a crazed dictator hell-bent on extermination and world domination. Not one has ever existed and nor will one ever exist. Did you know that Hitler had pacts with both the Irish and the Native Americans to help them acheive their soveriegnity and take back the land that had been stolen from them? The big clue to why WWII was inevitable lies in knowing the true meaning of Facism and not the commonly held meaning. Clue... is has to do with private banks and who is in charge of creating a country's money supply and thus the ability to enslave via debt. Did you know that true Facism supports PRIVATE (debt free) OWNERSHIP as opposed to Communism which absolutely opposes that - hence why Communists hate Facists? Did you know that International Jewry announced a declaration of war against Germany in 1933 - 6 to 7 years before the start of the war, for these very reasons? To this day, no economist has been able to understand how Hitler's government was able to take a country from dire poverty, rampant hunger and homelessness and absolutely massive unemployment far in excess of the "Great Depression" and transform and re-build an entire country, house (via PRIVATE ownership) and employ almost the entire population and help design the cheapest car possible to make PRIVATE travel accessible to all (Volkswagon - folks wagon or peoples car) all in the space of just 7 to 8 years. How many decades or hundreds of years has our government had to acheive this and failed? The reason this was possible and never been duplicated is because Hitler kicked out the private bankers that were milking the country and it's people dry and hence why International Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933. The jews who owned the private banks and much of global media started a global propaganda attack on Hitler and Germany culminating in the most atrocious lies imaginable. He had to be stopped at all costs before other countries realised what was possible without the debt placed on them by private banks. Did you know that both Churchill's and Roosevelt's most closest and most trusted advisors were both jews? Did you know that there were around 250,000 jews in the German army? Hitler didn't hate jews per se (though he came to intensely dislike the elite jews), it was the jews that relentlessly hated him, just as Diana Mitford described how it was for her husband. I could go on for hours...
@stuzo666
@stuzo666 Жыл бұрын
Garbage, do you think the new Indian prime minister loves ukstan more than mosely and this great lady
@larslar1520
@larslar1520 Жыл бұрын
SIR Oswald Mosley stood against The Black and Tans action in Ireland against The Irish People in Parliament against The Conservative Party...his Own Party at the time You were Clearly in Favour... that is the root of your Loyalist anger layed bare for all to see
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