Did Ed and Lorraine Warren Just Make It All Up?

In this video, I examine the Warrens major cases and how they capitalized on their paranormal falsehoods with lucrative book deals, lecture circuits, and eventually a cinematic universe. This is essentially a massive debunking video of the Warrens.
J'amie Rubio's blogs:
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Most narratives for these stories came from the books that were written about them(e.g. Amityville Horror, House of Darkness House of Light, In a Dark Place, The Devil in Connecticut etc).
Ray Garton's post(or interviews saying the same thing):
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Excavating in Egypt:
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Journal of Egyptian Archaeology
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More about Judith Penney Scandal:
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Norma Sutcliffe video:
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Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
00:26 - Ed and Lorraine's Early Life
02:49 - Annabelle
05:28 - Perron Family/The Conjuring
08:41 - Amityville Horror
12:41 - Arne Johnson/Glatzel Family
15:47 - Snedeker Family/The Haunting in Connecticut
17:50 - Cursed (Egyptian) Objects do not exist
23:14 - Bathsheba Sherman is innocent, Perron Family made up lies
33:18 - Amityville and Ghost Boy are a Hoax
40:00 - Carl Glatzel Jr Exposes Warrens, his brother and mother
44:22 - The Warrens Exposed as Scam Artists by Ray Garton
47:12 - Lorraine the Skeptic and Ed being creepy
49:00 - Conclusion
50:23 - Outro
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[@RationalEra]

A couple of people have commented on Ed's grooming which I avoided using language it as such due to being scared of the algorithm nicking me and then being frustrated not knowing why KZbin did that. I should have avoided talking about that part of The Warrens life if I wasn't very clear! What Ed did was grooming and sexual assault of a child. This is wrong!

[@GaryWilliams-f9w]

@RationalEra The Warrens never met a house that wasn't haunted. The lies they told to make money make even Trump look honest.

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

I'm almost not surprised by this extra bit of info about people like these.

[@justkiddin84]

And honestly, L is at fault, as well, for this. Even if she did not ‘join in’ she allowed it to happen in her home.🤬

[@elainaswanson4364]

If nothing else, this video has convinced me that an Annabelle movie using an actual Raggedy Ann doll would’ve been 1 billion times scarier LMAO

[@keatonthekoopatroopa246]

Isn't Raggedy Ann in the public domain?

[@doctabaldhead]

Yeah, the over the top evil design from the movie was just sort of dumb.

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

The Annabelle movies are so unconvincing cuz they designed an ugly ass doll Prob couldn’t use raggedy Ann for trademark issues but at least use a nice and pretty and super cute porcelain doll! Seriously!

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

@laverdadescatolica5 exactly!!!

[@slytheringingerwitch]

I assume that they changed the doll to a porcelain doll was because in every horror movie there are usually porcelain dolls or a puppet that stares at you. I also assume they could trademark the doll they used and make money with the merchandise. I myself am not at all freaked out by any dolls and have made a life size Raggedy Ann doll because I could.

[@vectorwolf]

People have come out and said that the Warrens straight up coached them on what to say to the press. Their ENTIRE GOAL was to nab a lucrative movie and/or book deal, and they definitely made bank on that achievement.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Yeah though movie deals were not in the cards back then but book deals oh hell yes

[@tvav69]

Glad they got to enjoy it for a few years before they both died. 👻✌🏻I don’t think the paranormal in general or the Warren’s career was as black as white as that. They did try and make money at it. That’s what people do. And they did stretch the truth for sure. But I think they also had a genuine interest in the paranormal and probably did experience a lot during their career. ✌🏻

[@wintertrooper7918]

@tvav69 eh Ed died before the first conjuring movie came out so he never got to see it

[@vectorwolf]

It's true, they didn't get to see the movie franchise, but the search for a book deal was well known. That's just the pipeline; get the novel pinned down, then later shop it around for the movie or TV show.

[@wintertrooper7918]

@@vectorwolf Lorraine lived to see the massive success of the franchise

[@sophietsafcas6371]

The Warrens never met a house that wasn’t haunted

[@Kowawadaddy]

I totally agree and everything was demons despite the fact that their claims contradict the biblical explanation of how demons work and the rules they follow. I met Lorraine a few times over the years and I think she actually believed in what she was doing and he used her and his ability to control her to his advantage. The thing I can’t forgive is the conjuring two a case they were not invited to be part of or took a large part in unlike in the movie. I really felt sorry for Maurice who had been with the family from the beginning and had given everything to help them but Ed tried to convince them that he was a fraud and he is barely in the movie. I hate how by the third film they turned Ed into some sort of action hero despite it being obvious that the real Ed couldn’t have done any of the things he did in the movies.

[@Kowawadaddy]

@@sophietsafcas6371 more than that they never met anything that was not demonic everything was demons even though they knew that they don’t work that way.

[@sophietsafcas6371]

@@Kowawadaddy exactly!! There was a profit to be made with the demonic

[@elirien4264]

Or a spirit that wasn't demonic.

[@petmomful2260]

Yes, it was always a demon.

[@pegallen6983]

These two were the biggest scam artist in the world! As soon as I hear Ed and Lorraine Warren were involved with something I take it with a grain of salt. They couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it.

[@Canev821]

You are wrong

[@pegallen6983]

@@Canev821 Says you! Prove it! You can't! My opinion and if I am wrong, which I don't believe for a second, I will eat my words but until you prove it beyond a reasonable doubt I will continue to say they were fraudsters all the way

[@ShunShunOri]

@@Canev821lmao “you’re wrong but I’m not gonna back this comment up, just say the words.”🤣🤣

[@Canev821]

@@ShunShunOri I don’t care I have seen what they have when you die you will be surprised

[@eddieray]

​@@Canev821Have you died and come back?

[@idontknowyet5942]

Face it. You dont like the Warrens. You like Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga. They have such great chemistry on screen!

[@ConversateL]

They really do! Anytime I see either of them in a movie with some other husband/wife character it just ain’t right 😂

[@abigails_castles.crumbling]

they’re the only Warrens i actually like because in the movies at least it’s actually demonic possessions x100 and not scam artists

[@weaviejeebies]

Omg I know, right? As a kid I heard the Annabelle doll story and it really creeped me out. Then came the time where I actually SAW the doll Lorraine was so terrified of, and it's frickin Raggedy Anne. C'mon, at least pick a creepy Victorian porcelain doll if you want to sell its sinister qualities. Honestly, those two fabulous actors are responsible for the positive image and popularity of the Warrens today. Only Vera Farmiga can make 70s fashion look good! And Patrick Wilson is the dream devoted husband. I adore their on-screen relationship. The real Ed and Lorraine were nowhere near as charismatic or as skilled as the movies portray. I think Lorraine believed in her 'gifts' but also had the kind of odd flaky personality that comes with believing one's own imagination is actionable fact. I think Ed, being Catholic and wanting to be a famous and righteous hero figure, wanted to believe as well, but underneath their wacky folie a deux, they were also grifting a living and getting attention. Conning people can be very lucrative and much less labor intensive as a 9-5 job.

[@FarkleBeans]

I've always been so curious how they lucked out and won the actor-portrayal-lottery on this one! The real Ed and Patrick Wilson? No comparison. These actors are lovely with such charisma and likability. The movie franchise would really take a hit, had they cast people with the same smarmy and "meh" quality as the real Warrens.

[@Grandmastergav86]

Not even keen on those two tbh

[@DeidresStuff]

I love how they would claim they worked with the Catholic Church. Exorcisms are extremely rare, require that all physical and mental illnesses be ruled out by qualified doctors, and laypeople can't perform them. Exorcisms are also generally boring af.

[@carolusrex5213]

Exactly! From what I've seen from interviews with priest who have done exorcism they also claim it isn't that crazy of an event and most of the time the exorcism just acts as a placebo for someone with underlying delusions.

[@supposedhumanmars]

As a Catholic I can confirm that true exorcism is a rarity. My mom was a Eucharistic Minister and she was close to the parish priest. She was always curious about ghosts and such so she asked him. He told her that exorcisms are exceedingly rare and that all other causes of the person's troubles must be eliminated before even considering moving forward with an exorcism. Oh and yeah, you gotta be clergy to perform or assist in an exorcism. The Warrens were absolute frauds.

[@Japansepuppy2481]

Ed is also a known cheater and abuser, including a young girl he took advantage of. The paranormal community needs to stop supporting these abusers

[@MathewSteeleAtheology]

If you rule out all of cheaters and charlatans, there would be no paranormal community left.

[@tfordham13]

That doesn't matter here

[@elijahjames8837]

​@MathewSteeleAtheology that is simply not true there are people who are honestly looking into these types of phenomena.

[@MathewSteeleAtheology]

@@elijahjames8837 If the honest seekers were all that was left, it would be a completely different community because it wouldn't be based on the belief that there are, in fact, paranormal events. A belief that is reinforced beyond mere curiosity and skepticism by the charlatans and con artists.

[@elijahjames8837]

@MathewSteeleAtheology oh yes, there are such things as paranormal experiences. I use to be a landlord in a very active building and when doubters would move in they would discount what I'd have to say. After 6 months their attitude would do a 180 and the smug doubt would be gone. We as humans have no idea what makes up reality so having an open mind is essential if one wants to have a clue. There has to be a billion ghost stories in the history of mankind so even if you could whittle it down by 90% that would still leave 100 million stories that logic could not explain away. You believe they don't exist you are as blind as those who believe at the drop of a hat. Sorry but no matter how hard you try you can not explain everything away.

[@AwsmNix]

The fact that possessions and exorcisms were just disastrously harmful misconceptualization of mental health crisis’ isn’t just widely accepted BAFFLES me

[@carolusrex5213]

Here's the thing, the church actually requires mental health treatment first before an exorcism. Like legit you can't just ask for one the church has to approve it and usually only does so if mental health treatments don't seem to help. It's why real life exorcism approved by the church are exceedingly rare

[@Kowawadaddy]

@@carolusrex5213 you are correct in what you are saying but it isn’t as simple as that in the case of the Warren’s. Although they worked with that dubious to say the least priest he did not really perform the exorcisms and most were never sanctioned by the church. Ed declared himself a demonologist despite the fact that he was not one and used the title to justify himself qualified to perform them. He was threatened multiple times with excommunication by the church but the priest often took the blame for it and he avoided it. Ed was a master manipulator not only of Lorraine but of the priest himself and he was extremely successful in controlling the entire operation.

[@WereScrib]

Yep, I got some exorcism training from the largest Protestant communion of churches in the US: Same even there. The only time they suggested doing an exorcism for 99.999% of these 'exorcism' cases, was if it was with a health provider to attempt to get someone with an illness to *think* they are being helped. (Usually perform a blessing and then to tell them that they need therapy for their traumas in the aftermath, not to like, perform some battle with some demon or some dumb shit.) Doing things like taking the lords name in vain, or being disrespectful or towards the Church, or denying God/Christ are literally notable signs of 'this being a fake possession/someone wanting attention or who have a mental illness' because that goes against all traditions of what demons are supposed to act like. That's fictional demonic ideas. Its pop culture.

[@Canev821]

They require a screening there is a psychologist who did this work and saw 3 real cases only. It’s real

[@asmrtpop2676]

@@carolusrex5213The thing is churches perform exorcisms all the time. The argument you’re using is the no true scotsman fallacy.

[@samanthafairweather9186]

Most of the alleged hauntings investigated by these two scammers have been debunked. Bathsheba Sherman wasn't a "child/baby killer", she wasn't a witch/Satanist or whatever, and she didn't die from hanging, with a broken neck, either. Bathsheba's great-granddaughter has spoken out about the lies told by both the Warren's and by the movie. Bathsheba Sherman was a loving wife and mother. She gave birth to 6 children ( I think) and lost a few due to illness ( not uncommon in those days). She died around the mid 1950's or early 60's, due to her health rapidly declining from the after affects of a massive stroke. With the Amityville case, Lorraine claimed to be in contact with the spirit/ghost of Butch DeFeo! Yep, there is a recording of Lorraine ( both film and audio) "speaking" to the ghost of a VERY MUCH LIVING PERSON!! She even claimed that he had committed "silverside" ( hey, it's KZbin! Gotta think of something 😂) due to him no longer being "possessed". ( Her words). So anytime I hear about Ed and Lorraine Warren being involved in an investigation, I don't believe a word of it!

[@YetAnotherytc1234]

28:42 Bathsheba was born in 1812 and died of a stroke in 1885 NOT 1950 or 1960.

[@elizabethhuie563]

@@YetAnotherytc1234 It does not matter when she died. They lied about her which is so very wrong.

[@NitwitsWorld]

No better than sewer slide 😂

[@Canev821]

They were not scammers

[@vanapirarayne738]

​@@elizabethhuie563actually it does. The person is trying debunk information but has shared inaccurate information. It does matter.

[@davepyl]

Funny how demon possessions never seem to match any Biblically mentioned possessions, tehy're always much worse. As if made for movies.

[@spiceupyourafterlife]

And the "satanic" side is never anything like how Satanism is actually practiced. Almost as if they didn't know anything about Satanism and just made it up.

[@sole__doubt]

@@spiceupyourafterlife Yeah anyone who researched the occult figured that out pretty quickly. Its far more mundane and subtle than the movies.

[@ReeseRozum-sm1zs]

I had been thinking about that, in the Bible the demons are reverent toward Jesus, and did not blasphemy his name, but the movie demons do, because only people who don't truly believe in God would dare mock him, The Bible records them either being very strong though, I don't think people get possessed for real today, possession was temporary that people would believe on Christ, Old Testament didn't have it either, I think today it's all fake, and peoples imagination

[@teddyhh9947]

Scammer couple. They have an evil air about them and are blatantly ignoring do and donts within exorcism. Its absolutely a no-no to give a demon permission to posess someone or something

[@teddyhh9947]

​@@spiceupyourafterlifethink its more akin to false prophets. Giving them a free-pass by assuming they are incompetent is not a good thing

[@salvagemonster3612]

Seing how Ed was molesting a child that used to ride his bus. And Lorraine allowed him to bring this child into the house. Full well knowing Ed was raping her. And Ed forced the girl to get an obortion speaks volumes of the kind of people they are

[@GavinRose-d5l]

Yikes.

[@SleepySloth2705]

He did WHAT????

[@tknnn123]

Please provide some sources. Y'all won't just believe anything, right?

[@saraphicseer5982]

EXACTLY what I say too...and her name is Judith Penney, google that sh*t ,awful.

[@JodieBarbwireHeart]

Her name was Judith Penney and she has come out with claims etc ​@touheed6140

[@michaelmiradezandband]

99% of the reason anyone believes Ed and Lorraine Warren is because of how great Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga play them. They do such a great job that you want to believe. The real Ed and Lorraine have basically 0 charisma and were definitely charlatans, and Ed was definitely very creepy. If the Conjuring movies had not brought them into the limelight, no one would be discussing them. I mean, Lorraine was already down to doing appearances on shitty horror documentary television shows like A Haunting a few years before the Conjuring came out.

[@Kowawadaddy]

@@michaelmiradezandband you are partially correct but Lorraine is very misunderstood and gets branded with the same thing as him I personally knew her and she was not the person people think. Ed was abusive to her and extremely controlling of everything she did and said and he got worse after their daughter was born. The problem was that by the time she realised what he was doing she was trapped because they had come to the attention of the media. She was left with no option but to continue doing what he wanted despite the fact she knew that they were conning people into believing lies that he had her rehearse. It’s not well known that the Annabelle doll in the so called museum is not the original one it was replaced after the original got mould in it and started to rot. I only ever met him twice and both times he was very drunk and he was wandering around the room playing with the objects in their and talking about how he had come up with some of the back stories for them. Lorraine was very sweet I know that she truly hated what she was doing and she tried more than once to expose them as frauds but he was not going to let that happen. I corresponded with her until she died and my biggest regret was that I couldn’t go to her funeral because I was in hospital at the time. I really wish people knew what she was really like and how she ended up in the grips of an abusive husband who wouldn’t let her go because she believed if she left him she would go to hell.

[@michaelmiradezandband]

@@Kowawadaddy Lorraine continued to appear on paranormal shows well after Ed died, spouting the same things she said while they were together. I do believe that her marriage was not good and that Ed was likely the driving force behind all the lies, but she continued to present herself as a medium without him.

[@Kowawadaddy]

@@michaelmiradezandband I know she did and I agree that she was wrong to do it but he left her with huge debts and she didn’t have any other talents to be honest. I think what made it worse was when she agreed to the films that came before the conjuring to be made and she started getting offers to promote them. I’m not trying to say she was blameless she was not I just find it difficult to not defend her side of things but I do agree with you that it should have stopped when he died.

[@gustavolopes5094]

Yeah, that's true for the great majority of modern-day people that heard of Ed and Lorraine. But saying they weren't successful before is a big stretch. They already had movies, books, etc. written about them much, much before those movies were made.

[@MaryBeth94]

​@Kowawadaddy so she was a spineless doormat who knowingly and continuously scammed people? Yea that's someone worth missing. I'm glad she's gone.

[@niftyspock]

"The walls will OOZE GREEN SLIME???? wait they always do that..."-Squidward

[@mistermidnight1823]

"If that was you on the bus and you on the phone, then who was flickering the lights...?"

[@DevCoffey832]

Nosferatu!

[@khher1979]

I was obsessed with their "investigations" as a kid. Then i grew up and as my logic skills got better, they made less sense.

[@Canev821]

You lost faith

[@justkiddin84]

@@Canev821No, he grew up. Learned about reality.

[@kyuubisgirl3232]

To say you're in touch with the dead and all you do is lie on dead people who can't speak up for themselves is callous. Thanks for this video, I wish more people cared about the truth over fantasy because they have preconceive notions that there has to be more to life than the physical. It leads to them getting duped by conmen while singing their praises. Sad.

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

28:32 ngl “killed an infant with knitting needle” sounds less like sacrifice and more like someone with post partum psychosis and no support 😔

[@EughhBrothereughh]

R you fcking dum. No mother in post partum would off her child. They aren't males ffs

[@valolafson6035]

But it was also made up.

[@eldritchhorrorwithwifi]

Something that disturbs me about a lot of these cases that the childrens' accounts sound eerily similar to the kind of traumatic flashbacks and night terrors abuse survivors often suffer from.... I really hope my suspicious are wrong here :(

[@riskingrain1560]

I already figured that the real story of these cases would likely involve more actual abuse and misconceptions of mental health rather than demonic and possessions happening. Afterall back then people had a different idea of what abuse looked like and even then a lot of times it wasn't taken seriously or was under minded as it's still evident today a lot times with the older generations as a primary example still.

[@justkiddin84]

🎯🎯🎯🫤

[@suzybearheart530]

I had a friend who used to be Ed's writing assistant. She said not only was he a horrible boss, but he's also a total con artist. She said he'd tell her to make up stuff to put in his books and I quote "it's all bullshit anyway. " I didn't know this friend all that well but she didn't seem to be the type to make stuff up. Needless to say, as a huge fan of the Conjuring movies, I was crushed. 😂

[@tfordham13]

Sounds fake

[@suzybearheart530]

@tfordham13 Like I said, I didn't know her all that well, but she seemed truthful, and I don't know why she would lie. Plus, it lines up with what other people have said.

[@theclimbto1]

@@suzybearheart530 I'll just say this... if you don't know them that well, probably not a friend. Maybe should say you knew a person, or call them an acquaintance? Friend seems to be some one you'd be emotionally connected to, have a real relationship with... so some one you would know well.

[@flotilha935]

​@@theclimbto1 Well... I trust more this random person than a couple that allegedly found a fucking teleportation mirror, a satanic doll and fought the Amytville House😂😂😂😂

[@theclimbto1]

@@flotilha935 Well true. I'd call them hacks, which is worse than acquaintances. :D

[@RshadowA]

The way you acted out the raggedy Ann doll strangling Lou was hilarious. Best part of the video IMO. The Shia LaBeouf ghost was a very close second, lmfao 🤣.

[@SaltySeaWitch3]

The Warren's attributed the Amityville Haunting on the home being built on an "Indian Burial Ground"... The house is on the water, no one burries bodies right next to a body of water like that

[@Kowawadaddy]

Not only that the tribes from the region were contacted and they said they had never used the site or lived in the area of it.

[@DelilaSloan]

The thing that makes me mad is the whole indian burial ground! Oh no not indians! Im native and all my deceased family members are also natives. They r buried in a normal cemetary. No different then a white person cemetary or any other race. I know that when my dads sisters pased away, the older 2 were both full bloods, i felt peace in the place they were buried. In a cemetary outside of the little church in the woods they had played on the grounds as little girls. There is nothing scary about natives or the place they are buried. I

[@Kowawadaddy]

@@DelilaSloan as a British person and Wiccan I apologise for what has been done to your people over the years and still is. I despise the way that your culture has been twisted and used as a form of entertainment and unfortunately I don’t see it ever changing. I have sympathy for you because my own religion has also been used in the same way and like your own it is based on lies and misinformation. Sadly I think that as long as it makes money then lazy writers will always turn to the easy targets to attack and harm. I have always hoped that one day someone might write something that shows us as we truly are and not in my case as child sacrificing devil worshipers. But I can live with that if your own people finally get the recognition and respect they deserve because they deserve it after everything they’ve done through.

[@MyLoserBrain]

​@@DelilaSloan i think the misunderstanding youre reciving is that the burial ground is ok for you to be on but not people to build on or live on that are not part of your family. Also cemeteries did NOT work the way they do now back in the days when white man was taking land from natives. "Indian burial ground" means just that, a natives burlial ground, sacred land. Personally i dont think anyone should build houses where there been documented cases of burials because i find that disrespectful to the spirits. And as a native i sure as hell dont want land that was stolen to be built upon if it was once a burial ground (or at all but that's besides the point). Also take into consideration that these native burial grounds were protected by ritual and spritual practices and most were also protected against even other tribes from interfering. Its not all about "oh no scary indian people who put curses on the white man" and its more "we as white people know historically how natives used to run their land and i dont wanna mess with all that". Now, that being said, it is used in media grossly and that needs to stop. All burial grounds are sacred, we just take it more seriously.

[@JoelFeila]

well i won't say no one. there was a large burial ground found in folrdia. lots of well persevered swamp mummies.

[@dianejensen3420]

Thank you for the Raggedy Ann re-enactments - it's been a hard weekend and you made me laugh myself silly!!😂😂😂😂

[@dianejensen3420]

Plus the baby voice you use with that mother about her son - I'm DYING😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RationalEra]

Haha thanks! I had a lot of fun with it.

[@justkiddin84]

I wonder what terrible deeds Raggedy Andy did!?! So disappointed these dolls were so bad. 😂😂

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

After reading the title, I was hoping to see a 1-second video of you saying, "Yes," deadpan in the camera. Fade to black. 😎

[@theclimbto1]

That was my idea for a James Bond movie. The whole Pre-Title bit with the silhouettes, all that actions and music and then when the silhouette of James Bond pops up BAM! Dead. The End.

[@floraposteschild4184]

Yes. ⬛

[@CryptidZookeeper]

How 'odd' how many of these interactions take the form of sleep paralysis and night terrors.

[@RationalEra]

I think that's generally a good explanation for many ghost encounters. Especially with the Perron family and Carolyn's experiences.

[@CryptidZookeeper]

@@RationalEra There's also the general spectrum of hypnagogic phenomena that often explains ghostly behaviour. I grew up in a house that was purported to be haunted, and the only experiences I had that could fall into that category were things I have come to realise were obvious (and text book) hypnagogic auditory hallucinations and sleep paralysis. If you're not the sort of person who is likely to question what you're seeing or hearing, it's quite easy to see how you might reach for supernatural explanations - especially if you were to come from a religious background that might come with tales of things like demons and ghosts.

[@jessmarie8040]

Fun fact. The haunting in Connecticut is in my dad’s home town. I can walk to it from where my dad is buried and he always made fun of Ed and Loraine

[@thoughtfulwatcher]

A broom doing housework for you? You're complaining?! Send that ghost or magic broom or whatever my way...I'll risk it.

[@ashleyellis8875]

Of coarse they are fraud I can’t stand the conjuring universe films either they are 🗑

[@pattywolford]

Same…can’t stand those films.

[@masdavis236]

The first one was terrifying, the later two were garbage and bassed off obnoxiously bs cases

[@darthvader6404]

@@masdavis236idk bout the second one lmao, the first one and the 3rd one felt the most bs to me

[@brianarodriguez2757]

Agreed. They’re just a loud of cheep jump scares and are so boring.

[@teddyhh9947]

@@darthvader6404 2. Is my favorite. Say what you will about the history of the warrens but the conjuring 2 is a great horror movie

[@tomtom7734]

Yes. There, saved you time

[@tfordham13]

No you didn't

[@sonicmoremusic1]

I know they are fake, but it makes fun great entertainment

[@cassandraunheeded]

They’re a hoot!

[@mosriteminioncause7741]

And made lots and lots of money for Warner Bros. Studios. (New Line, Atomic Monster, Safran Company, and HBO Max.)

[@Demortixx]

Except real people lives got fucked over

[@TheFunkyJawa]

@@Demortixx Only really dumb people.

[@ChondroMan]

You mean scammers.

[@RayneSaltair]

LOL I don't even need to see this although I'm going to watch it. Yup they are both fakes.

[@kcrowe559]

I think they were charlatans, but the Lutz family was too. The only real horror was Ronald Defeo jr

[@wintertrooper7918]

And even he might have been more likely to have had mental issues rather than being possesed

[@Dakrs06]

@@wintertrooper7918most definitely was just a nutjob

[@GlitterRain15]

@@wintertrooper7918for what I read it was more of drug addiction

[@badlabs1]

They were scam artists

[@wintertrooper7918]

@@badlabs1 that's kinda what a charlatan is

[@leahtv7778]

Footage of Raggedy Ann doing the note was great 🎉😂

[@dianejensen3420]

I saw that while eating my morning cereal.. I started laughing so hard I almost choked on it!! 😂😂😂

[@YetAnotherytc1234]

Ed also said in Ghost Tracks "“In order to do this, we need a psychic. Fortunately, I just happen to have one with me today. Lorraine’s psychic abilities have been verified, validated, and categorized at UCLA. Science is now doing that these days." Shit that Ed says should be a video.

[@Nodiee1]

Reading this in Trump's voice feels pretty appropriate

[@EarthymoonPhotos]

The visual aid choices had me rolling!! 😂

[@dylanvolckaert404]

I love some good old charlatans as much as the next person, but when I talk to someone who claims the Warrens weren't conmen I kind of want to exit the conversation as fast as possible. As I kid/early teen I used to see ghosts at night as I was lying in bed. I'd see them walking up the stairs to the attic through the doorway and I was terrified. I soon enough learned I was suffering from sleep paralysis. This revelation caused me to look at everything with a skeptical eye and I wish people would do this as well.

[@theclimbto1]

I've absolutely bore witness to things I feel are paranormal... that doesn't mean the Warren's are cons. I think the issue is, sometimes we experience things we can't explain. And we certainly don't want the answer to just be 'yeah, you crazy bro'. So when others claim they can prove these things, some people become willfully ignorant.

[@foreverheat6688]

The biggest frauds and con artists ever.....

[@carlroy]

If i see Shia LaBeouf in my kitchen, I'll be scared too.

[@noellefair4373]

I live in the area where they are from and they are known as the biggest scammers

[@disneybarbiegirl615]

The fact they claim the doll was antique on top of that is purely amateur. As a doll collector, I know a raggedy Ann. That doll at earliest is from the mid 60s. More than likely she’s from the 70s. Which is when the story takes place. Seems like a whole “make it scary” moment. Demons sure are real, but a cheap glass and wood cabinet isn’t going to hold a demon. Especially if they can possess inanimate objects, just as the case is lol 😂 it’s very hokey

[@bongqueen]

"demons sure are real" LMAO u lost me there

[@scentini]

Allegedly, Ed Warren had a live-in underage girlfriend as well. I always found it fishy too that Lorraine never claimed to be a 'clairvoyant' until after being involved with Ed. Regarding the 'ghost' photo from the Amityville house, I also heard that one of the people there at the time had their young son with them, and that was who was captured in the photo. I do not recall the details. Excellent video exposing the truth about these con-artists.

[@the.toycromancer]

Okay, so, if he had an "affair" with the full consent of his wife, that's not an affair, that's just a different relationship style. That being said, the girl was 15! That is the problem there! That, and portraying themselves as evangelical and providing fuel to that fire for profit while personally not believing or living it. Getting that out of the way, I'm not surprised by any of this, just how little anyone every covers this info. It's so funny how the movies portray them as a perfect trad couple when this shite was the reality. Like, he looks like he runs a pawn shop that't a front for the mob. He looks like I'd need to cover my drink around him.

[@RationalEra]

The problem is they were Catholics who presented themselves as fighting the good battle against evil. So even with consent and let's say hypothetically that the affair started when they were adults it would still be mortal sins in Catholicism (because of premarital sex) which would send them to hell if they never confessed their sins before they died. That's my problem. The lies which would help strengthen the foundations of their religion asserting it as the "true" religion. But they didn't even live out their religion properly to begin with.

[@tfordham13]

​@RationalEra no it still isn't an afiar words have meaning this isn't one of them

[@Gojofan-i7p]

The religion doesn't allow open marriage!

[@manbehindthemask2010]

Im certain most can rememeber when the fake documentary of the Blair Witch aired on SCI FI CHANNEL. IT was so well made that people believed it to be real. The POWER of suggestion on the human mind. END OF STORY.

[@jwst8]

i was like 12 when i watched it, scared the shh out of me, lol.. it was better than the actual movie

[@wintertrooper7918]

That's mostly cause TBWP was designed to be that way with mostly new actors with no one knowing much about it

[@robbyroba]

They're phonies!

[@ankerubinetto2359]

I love your 'reenactments' 😂 Also you present these cases really nice, well structured and on point!

[@Greywolfgrafix]

Total charlatans

[@sole__doubt]

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knew that from the beginning.

[@jeniskindof]

I'm a believer in the paranormal but come on why is these type of crazy hauntings only happened in the'60s 70s and 80s? But when cameras become more available and easier to carry demonic possessions and house hunting became almost a thing of the past

[@zerkzy842]

Whenever Ed and Lorraine are involved there’s fuckery afoot

[@YetAnotherytc1234]

Ed also said in Ghost Tracks "Telekinesis-the mind’s ability to move matter-had already been proven in labs at this point." It has? There is a scientific Theory of this? Remember Theory in science terms is different than the regular use of the word. If this is so then why aren't we all able to move stuff with our minds and companies producing devices that enhance our powers?

[@7th_SoulWalker]

Ed must have a twisted idea of what good health means. 🙄 That man... And Bathsheba, poor woman. Great video ❤

[@princessnahema]

when a house is old, it settles. sometimes doors dont close all the way or seemingly open by themselves. its common

[@missshonka2]

Awesome story. Even as a kid I never believed those two. Much love from NW Arkansas

[@karleksang]

That was very well researched and put together.Well done😊

[@jasonschneider7224]

The most disturbing moment was the spectral appearance of Shia LaBeouf - Shia surprise!

[@TiffTheDestroyer]

I am absolutely LIVING for Ms. Raggedy Ann’s re-enactments 😂 ….and don’t even get me started on The Ghost of Shia LaBeouf lmfaoooooooo excellent

[@dianejensen3420]

Soooooo funny😂😂😂😂

[@PaulGottfried-i8b]

If any dolls of mine(hypothetically) found to be moving from room to room, apparently on their own, with no cleaning supplies in their little puffy hands, I’m out.

[@foggygray]

Those Andrea Perron books are painful to read. They’re very repetitive and have tons of filler. She needed an editor more than an exorcist.

[@pattywolford]

They’re con artists.

[@Oldmongreldog70]

Yes finally someone else who doesn’t believe there fake bullshizz

[@Canev821]

I hope you realize they are real

[@thetomleb]

It’s funny you didn’t even go over the happenings of conjuring 2 because in reality that movie is almost completely fan fiction of what the Warrens would have done if they hadn’t been shut out by Hodgsons. The movie would have been them going to Enfield asking the family for if they were interested in making a book deal and then immediately getting as to leave and locked out of the house if it were based on any sort of reality of what happened.

[@RationalEra]

Actually I had the whole segment edited in about Enfield but was worried I was going to bore people so I cut it out. Oops!

[@Kowawadaddy]

@@RationalEra yeah definitely oops I feel bad for Maurice and how he is a side character in the movie but don’t blame yourself you have produced something important for people to know and learn from. I have been trying to tell people for years that they were frauds but got nothing but abuse for my troubles but you have made something that people are listening to and you should be proud of yourself if not then I am for you thank you.

[@iTsEfFiNsTePhh]

25:26 Sadly you're not wrong 😕 All throughout history any woman who was different, intelligent, powerful, rich, went against societal norms, outspoken, etc was always seen as a threat and either their life was taken from them, their name was tarnished, or all of the above (even those tied to them could be punished even women who were just connected to someone bad but did nothing wrong themselves except exist got punished for something they couldn't control) and heartbreakingly even decades, centuries, millenniums, etc after their passing their names are still blackened and the lies are still believed by some people (Joan Of Arc, Anne Boleyn, Elizabeth Bathory, Eleanor Of Aquitaine, Anne Askew, Hatshepsut, etc the list could go on and on) even in ghost horror movies most of the entities are angry, vindictive, and crazy women (FYI i'm not saying men weren't wronged throughout history because they were but most of the time on top of women not having any rights for most of history it was aimed at women even in third world countries it's still happening). Just wild.

[@MindEyeMediaVR]

It still boggles my mind that con artists like the Warrens can get their own "cinematic universe".

[@aaronatkinson177]

Because money of course 😂

[@kingrileyp.i.4749]

How could you be asleep in bed and get choked out by a doll and keep the doll around for more shenanigans?😂😂😂

[@janeglover3118]

Excellent vid, you must have done a huge amount of research to put all this together. Very interesting indeed. 👍🌟

[@MaryGen-xo6zf]

40:41 the devil being real doesn’t remove the fact that there are mental illnesses and disorders 😐

[@VersusArdua]

All these Conjuring stories are set up like super serious horror films but the stuff that they're based from are really just low-tier creepypastas. Its all like 'and then the doll jumped up at me in bed and it didn’t have a face and then there were these weird civil war horns and I was really scared' lol its like how is anybody still buying this shit? Theres absolutely no subtlety involved 😂

[@jenniferlopez3454]

09:40 too funny 😂

[@cheesuschrist42069]

Wow, really hope this channel blows up. The quality and analysis definitely deserves more than just 17k views

[@voidpunx]

I wouldn't complain if my household equipment would do the chores themselves tbh

[@acrazysheepdog1555]

I find the idea of the demon controlling a Raggedy Ann doll and struggling to make her move or pick up a crayon hilarious. Like I can just imagine the demon cussing and raging like a 360 gamer just to make her stand up and walk. That’s just me though.

[@Windwalker88]

Those Annabelle clips where hilarious bro, keep it up

[@tomcappado]

While I agree with your takes, some of your arguments need a tinge of touching up. Specifically with Anabelle - the glass is from a steeple and had been blessed. I’m not religious in the slightest, but if we work within the framework of supernatural entities that can be held off using prayers, there’s no reason that wouldn’t work? Also the more ridiculous part of the choking is the way the doll is built - it’s literally a stuffy, it doesn’t have the strength, rigidity or weight to cause minor choking on an adult- it’s simply too soft and malleable. Finally - I think there’s lore as to why it ended up inhabiting the doll and not a person… Idk it by heart, but I know there’s some kinda lore. All of this to say; you’re not wrong, but when arguing on the grounds of religious and spiritual possession, you do have to abide by their rules. Now, does a massively powerful, otherworldly, fallen-angel being repelled by *thoughts and prayer xx* make any sense? No - why tf would that matter to a being beyond our comprehension 💀 BUTTTT according to many religious writings somehow these beings go “:0 ‘oh no, you said a few words, now I gotta go back to hell I guess’ :/“

[@brettperry218]

They did a great job casting actors that look like the real couple 😂

[@Kowawadaddy]

@@brettperry218 could be worse Tyra Banks and snoop dog would’ve been so much better.🤪🤪🤪

[@andrelockridge9109]

Ed & Lorraine Warren have had a suspect reputation going back to Amityville horror house controversy

[@Jessidafennecfox]

Butch Defoe even said it was made up, he killed his family but the other shit wasn't real

[@ransakreject5221]

Same as Barney and Betty hill with the aliens. I learned them as facts as a child and was kinda sad when I researched them and found out the couple were obviously lying.

[@longnlean34]

It was a great made for TV movie in the 70s with James Earl Jones and Estelle Parsons. I laughed for days later at their performance, very amusing.

[@ransakreject5221]

I’ll try to check it out. Hoping in vain that it’s a comedy.

[@longnlean34]

@ransakreject5221 The film wasn't intended as a comedy, but then I laughed watching the Exorcist. I was more interested in the special effects, makeup, and performances rather than the subject matter.

[@ransakreject5221]

@@longnlean34 that’s alittle weird to laugh at the exorcist but a months ago I saw a hugely fat lady fall down in the supermarket and I laughed. My wife cursed at me cause now everyone was staring at me. And I laughed more n more. Then people tried and failed to help her up and I laughed even harder. Then someone said “stop laughing! She’s really hurt!” which made me go into hysteria with laughter. Even now just thinking about her pathetic whimpering.. and the way she fell down,, like she started to fall and her arms flailed feebly like a birds trying to take off all the way down. See now I’m laughing again? So I guess I can’t judge you too harshly.

[@StinkerSqueaker]

Fantastic video! So glad I found your channel. Just one small thing, in case the word comes up in future videos: diocese is pronounced "DIE-uh-sees." And now to binge watch all your content!

[@RationalEra]

I think I had a brain fart and pronounced the dio like in diocesan. I actually noticed while editing but didn't think it was a big deal(tomayto tomahto).

[@lizd2943]

If you had a doll that you genuinely belleved was possessed by some kind of demon, would you just put it in a glass case for visitors to gawk at?

[@Pinkmen-ho3fz]

3:22 that doll moving was actually kind of cute and funny

[@metalwarenthusiast]

that “get out!” really got me 😂

[@BushMermaid1394]

As someone who very much believes in the paranormal, ghosts and the like included, these two are just HORRIBLE

[@whateverchannel22]

LOL at the doll writing notes!!! Excellent!!

[@everythingbobbywolfe]

5 second answer to the video title...yes, they did

[@MillieBee11]

Love your dissection of their years of fraud. Thanks for being so thorough. 👍

[@max.cr33p]

i was not expecting that "GET OUT!" sound bite and it got me good

[@max.cr33p]

i loled out loud

[@cravetherave2254]

What priest goes to bless a house, hears a demon yell at him and he just leaves instead of blessing it harder lmao their story has always been easy to pick apart

[@spiceupyourafterlife]

I always hated the Conjuring films, but I hate them even more knowing that the Warrens were frauds.

[@TheMooseOfMayhem]

I saw the thumbnail and title, said "yes", and am going to watch this entire thing anyway

[@Lockz1111]

As interesting as all of this is your delivery is frankly pretty monotonous and boring as hell which drags down the quality of the while video, it sounfs like youre reading off a script, which im sure you are but the goal is to not make it sound like that

[@L0vely_b0nes96]

Bathsheba Sherman had a family right? 👀 did any of them try to sue Ed and Lorraine for defamin/slandering her name?

[@rubykgarrett]

i pretend the conjuring universe ed and lorraine are the real ones and not these lame ass scammers

[@natbatlightwood5288]

38:36 did John Ketchum ever 'catch 'em all.' ...i will not apologise for this joke no matter how bad it is.

[@scottkalberer72]

I enjoyed this video and hope to see more from you. A minor point - I lived in central Connecticut and the usual pronunciation for Southington is "Suth-Thing-Tun" rather than 'Sowth-Thung-Tun". Thanks!

[@smallies7154]

its a legendary grift like religion and an afterlife if you donate enough to your church. hell is empty

[@Cdawg226]

09:40 had me choking on my water 😂😂😂

[@gelo888]

That caught me so off guard in such a serious video 😭 GET OUT- 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️

[@ministerofdarkness]

You know every time I see a ghost he always be flexin 👻💪🏼

[@dianejensen3420]

I laughed myself silly every time Shia showed up in the kitchen doing that!! 😂😂😂😂

[@zanzer386]

Thank you for exposing these charlatans on your channel.

[@MrJibbajabbawocky]

In one word? yes. In two words? yes. yes.

[@angelafields7019]

This was a good episode though I have seen a much more in-depth analysis of Ed and Lorraine’s work under scrutiny this was short and straight to the point. It is important to understand the power of story telling and the narrative in which it is told as it directly can influence your beliefs as evident of the supposed motorcycle crash after challenging Annabelle yet no records exist. This story most definitely influences us to fear and believe Annabelle is real. However it’s equally important to do your own research into claims and not blindly believe everything you hear.

[@labrxx]

Honestly I buy that the Annabelle doll was a hoax. It's way too easy to just be a fame-hungry person in that house moving the doll around, propping her up and writing notes.

[@Kowawadaddy]

@@labrxx not only is it a hoax the one currently sitting in the museum isn’t the original one he was doing work and it got wet and started to rot so he bought a replacement for it.

[@IchNachtLiebe]

3:57 Hand in frame. I knew Annabelle was a hoax controlled by a puppeteer this whole time.

[@deboracopeland4795]

Thank you. Very good vid. From An old lady who doesn’t believe any of it.