Did God *really* tell you to do that?? EP:21

Did God really tell you to do that??
EP:21 - Kim's thoughts on using others to achieve personal goals: spiritual abuse and spiritual partnerships
#thoughtsonthursday

[@purplehaze7777]

I was always asked to do stuff at Church which I politely declined as I’m not here to forfil others vision - I’m here to do what the Lord says so if he doesn’t say it - I’m not doing it. I’m grateful for your heart sis -❤❤❤

[@IzwiDan]

Ma'am your music really helped me when i was low and filled with sadness. May our Lord Jesus Christ continue blessing you 🙏🏿

[@rosaneublum538]

🤚🤚🤚🤚☝️☝️

[@thehappychappyhomestead8440]

What I have seen and felt for a few years is that the Lord wants us to return to having all things in common like the Acts church. No big “I’s” and little “you’s”. A place of unity where we aren’t trying to build our own ministries but build up one another and in turn building up His body

[@kenmorse2488]

Pyramids = Egypt. I think it always takes a team with healthy relationships. I like to say "There are no spare parts in the body of Christ". Back in the 1980s I was asked to lead the after-service healing ministry in a certain church of about 400. I previously wasn't on the healing team and I hadn't asked God for it but the Spirit began moving through me in significant ways and the anointing was recognized. So I taught 35 members the simple things that I had learned from the Holy Spirit (John 5:19). Healings went through the roof, to about 50%. We saw things like scoliosis, spina bifida, flu, and all sorts of things healed by the Holy Spirit and Jesus got all the credit. There is no cookie cutter approach and God wants to move through many more than you would expect - roughly 10% of the church was doing it so it certainly was not a one man show. Don't let your old expectations and experiences put you in their box. God is not into boxes... he is into spreading a table for us and for others.

[@yambiechiterah9565]

Hallelujah

[@watkanekgebruik]

Hi Kim, Thank you for these chats you have. Apologies for the long comment. I do agree with you that Jesus must be you foundation. When He is your foundation, everything you do is built on that. Every choice you make, every decision you take, be it in business, ministry, personal life etc. We should never look to people to follow; we should focus on Jesus. We tend to look to people because we can physically see them. We should always remember that they are also people just like we are, and they also have faults just like we do. We should never put them on a pedestal. When that person “fails” you, you should also show grace and forgiveness. With regards to God giving people dreams or telling them to build something, for sure God does that. Not sure if you know Angus Buchan, but he is a great example of that. God “told” him to mentor young gentleman to become the men they should, this started the Mighty Men Conferences. With this said, you should also wait upon the Lord to guide you and give you wisdom and direction on what to do next. Coming back to the first point, God must be the centre of it all and He has to stay the centre of everything. Looking at the school, maybe the person God has called is a great leader and someone that can run this. God will also supply the right people to come into the school as teachers as well as learners. Some of them maybe there for a season. I also believe that there is a great responsibility on anyone in a leadership role, however God also tells us to bring our burdens to Him. When you run any company, ministry or team, it is important to rely on God to provide the correct people. When it comes to renumeration, God also says that you need to look after your people and He will look after you. Personally I believe that you should always keep your focus on Jesus and not on anything else, normally when people start shifting their focus from people to profit is where you are not aligning with God and where problems starts creeping in. This was mentioned by our pastor over the past weekends service. There is a bit more to say, but this comment is really long already :) It is really a great topic. This can give us a bit more insight: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnvSdIKKlM2Kjs0

[@MarcZaffle-xo4sx]

Thanks! I really appreciate your ministry, both of leading others in worship and in leading/teaching other worship leaders. My wife and I have had church hurt in the past (over 25 years ago) and are only now are beginning to find our way out of it. We have come to the conclusion that Christ’s Church is made up of fallen human beings (us included), and it isn’t until we get that order that you speak of (Christ as the foundation and us built upon it) , that we could ever attach ourselves to another religious organization again. It takes time for healing of religious wounds. Don’t let it take as long as it took for us! God bless. Marc and Glenda Zaffle

[@dart2013]

Yes I’ve had a hard time for the last ten years and when I tell people how blessed I am. After my stroke and two brain aneurysms they can’t understand but if they will listen to what God has done for me. Took people out of my life who didn’t belong and replaced with some people who are so good for me. Everything in my life and heart is where it belongs. I love Jesus more and more each day I wake up. So much happier. Just wait on God to show you. I even prayed you told me you wouldn’t give me more than I can handle and I’m here doing good.he knew what I could handle and it did make me stronger. Thanks for your support when I listen to you and your music it makes a big difference. I pray for you and your family every day.

[@Believe_on_the_LordJESUSChrist]

If all believers sincerely work together to accomplish the will of God only (Matthew 6 : 33) and give honor to His name only, then all will help each other with love. God bless you.

[@yambiechiterah9565]

This is what is really needed indeed, otherwise how shall the kingdom stands if divide itself,?

[@barbirwin4385]

Hi Kim, I Love what you are sharing! I want to share something I used to volunteer down at the Olympia Union Gospel mission and on my drive down, I would listen to Walk with Me and prepare myself for spending time with the beloved Homeless folks! My heart was so full and the joy it brought me to spend time there. I love your beautiful voice that God gifted you with , you are a beautiful person 😊 In His Love , Barb

[@ericlockwood970]

I hear what your saying, some people are gifted at organizing ,administration. managing leading it takes a team. Everyone has there spot. Good leadership will look out for the best interest of others. on the team. One not more important than the other.

[@1955144]

Hi Kim Steve here from SA. Firstly thank you for your Spirit filled music. Such a blessing for me. What you say I believe is true. I personally think that if God is wanting you to go build a ministry or a business He wil first put you through Hes training school then send you out to do the foundation work yourself. After that He will send the right people to join you. But first you need to know what you are doing. Every job on earth has a training field and sometimes because of our disobedience it takes a long time before God releases you to go

[@cindyhampson5859]

Hi Kim, I appreciate you❤️ My experience has been that a lot of people struggle with trust including myself and opening our lives and hearts to God requires progressive levels of vulnerability and surrender (letting our walls down), and I think regardless of how we humanize the Pastor it tends to hurt our hearts in relation to Gods goodness when they break our trust. God bless you😀

[@carelvanderwesthuizen5220]

I do agree that there are big red flags in worship, the industry. And in monetising the church. But having opened several restaurants myself, let me point out…it didn’t take the chef to make the restaurant. In fact the normal good chef, would not have the skills needed to run a profitable/succesful/sustainable business. Customer interaction management, strategic planning, capital, financial admin…these components are actually more key to a product’s success than the product. I’m real-life terms, the producer of a general product on a retail shelf, only receives around 18% of the end-user price….and the owner of the product only a small % of that. The rest is distribution, marketing, yada yada Bottomline, I agree, there are big red flags. I can’t help think God’s route to success probably doesn’t look anything like the industry Just typing fast now..hope it makes sense. Thank you for your thoughts,

[@jeffatkins9591]

Always appreciate your thoughts Kim. I am pointing towards Jesus, and He alone. My personal journey has been about understanding empathy, removing shame and trauma, and healing emotional wounds. I like the idea of being here to serve. I think everyone's voice is important, needed, and I'm a far better listener than speaker. Empathy has been a focal point of my life. The development and real-world implementation of empathy. Bitterness is nothing that I have ever associated with myself. At this point in my life I like to think that I have nothing against anyone. I am here for God's glory, not mine. I am aware that I can do nothing of without Christ that gives me strength. All the best. I look forward to seeing what's next. I'm taking it one day at a time down in Tennessee. No, I haven't been to church in awhile, but I have nothing against any churches, and welcome all denominations. My heart burns for God, and I have been utterly amazed to watch what the Holy Spirit has been doing of late.

[@BikeRichardH]

Kim, you are talking about a proper contract between people when they work together. What do you bring to the table? There is an agreed upon beginning and an end, expectations during the contractual period, an exchange of value mutually agreed upon, within the law and with Christian and Christ centered values. The parties are actually capable to enter into a contract. Add details to make a better contract. When things change, review all the terms of the contract. Have way out. Have a best way to reconcile differences. There are books written about these things.

[@bioluminescentheart]

Amen! I like your "upside down pyramid" analogy. In the Bible, God shows us the church is interactive, and there is order to our gatherings. The "college lecture" type of gatherings, is not His structure for us as a church. Jesus (The Word of God) is always the best way to do everything! May the Lord bless you, Kim!

I know too many peoples in churches that make things, not to Jesus, but to be recognezed by other peoples, and because of this, there is no the presence of God, just noise.

[@ginap311]

Thanks, Kim. Appreciate what you’re releasing. You are as bold as a lion.

[@GraceSingh]

I think you are right because the word says in Ephesians 2:20 (AMP) 20 You are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets with Christ Jesus Himself the chief Cornerstone. Everything we build He Jesus Christ must be our cornerstone our sure foundation. God bless you and thank you. You are right.

[@user-cc4pe5op8y]

I’ve commented on a previous video-but I have to say again how every Thursday Kim has a discussion/answers questions that I have-like she knows what I’m thinking…..I thought I was being weird but Kim on Thursdays has made me realise it’s not just me -I’m not weird-And other people have thoughts and questions like me!

[@girlRock1000]

Yes!

[@alessandramary1570]

Essa é uma abordagem muito importante, Kim! Precisamos primeiramente entender, que estamos aqui pra continuar o que Jesus começou: servir a Deus e o próximo. Ele mesmo declarou que era servo do Deus Pai. Sendo assim, entendemos que Ele se humilhou e deixou sua condição gloriosa, para servir ao seu Pai e aos homens. Importante também lembrarmos que a Glória é somente para Ele, e que somos apenas vasos de barro nas mãos do Oleiro. Que possamos ter essa ciência de quem somos em Cristo Jesus e nos espalharmos nele.

[@darescot]

Dear @KimWalker-Smith, Giving thanks to God for your life and ministry, which has been a tremendous blessing to me in my walk with God. From inception, I watch most of your ThoughtsOnThursday, quite insightful. I wanna shime in on EP:21, regarding building stuff. Two scriptural examples in opposite direction: 1. God asked Noah to build, personally, based on actual skill-set. (Gen. 6:14-22) 2. God asked Moses to build the Tabernacle, with Vision only, without the skills; and then supplied Bezalel and Oholiab, and other artisans as skilled manpower (Ex. 31:1-11)

[@chinasamary6016]

I discovered you Ma in 2015 Ever since then ive been drinking from you I love the prophetic way u sing. I love and learn from u ma. God bless you more and more

[@ibuildstuffanddothings]

Such a timely, message, Kim. I wish I could even explain to you how relevant this is to my own thoughts and conversations with the Lord lately.

[@LuisIbanez-bh5hg]

Amén gloria a Dios 🙏

[@lindadavies3865]

Thank you Kim , interesting conversation , by you speaking it out loud it really did bring light to the situation . Of course upside down pyramid . Thank you for sharing . Praying for you and your family .

[@aermanfrost9672]

A TREE IS KNOWN BY ITS FRUIT.

[@KarenMorrison-ot9io]

What about a round table with Jesus at the center and each bringing their particular gift?

[@selinaBARMAR2565]

Amen. I do believe that if we place too much emphasis on someone at the "top" and they fall, then there's a risk of others going down with them. I also feel that we have to be careful not to exploit, or allow ourselves to be exploited in the Kingdom of God. I do believe in building with solid leadership though and when leaders' foundation is built on Christ, then I feel they truly make the best people to follow.

[@davidzimmerman984]

As you often do you have given me something to think about. thank you Kimmy. Love you precious girl. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@NeenjaMen]

I agree with you Kim. I think of recent times, my scrutiny of whether God is in a church or not, and if He wants me to be in that church has, and is is continuing to become more acute because of this. I think the problem with using people or their gifts is that they are obedience specific, and that results in the hurt. Kind of like the intrsuction manual for an electrical appliance, I can't take my instruction manual for a microwave, and use it to operate a computer. People also need to be honoured in their "honour language", so to speak, and not just how a person deems as honouring. I also don't know what God's vision for the church is with where we are at the moment because I've seen and experienced some very difficult things in the body, and my own church attendance feels like it's hanging on a very thin thread.

[@GraceSingh]

I think whatever it is we must have an anointing to fulfil a calling from God, many Christian’s are out of their anointing or they haven’t gone through Gods process and that’s when the enemy can see the cracks and can come in and destroy what God had originally intended to

[@RenoValance-df2iv]

Worship - everyone on same level pouring out of their innermost being in harmony will bring the atmosphere of heaven. Worship leader, choir,instruments… everyone else is left out drowned out, on a forgotten level, no atmosphere of heaven for them. One or none.

[@darinjuliesims354]

Excellent!

[@Summer_SLAYZ]

This is such an important message!! 💞

[@rocketblue60]

I just finished the final night of volunteering to help at VBS and trying to understand why I feel so depressed. I felt led to and wanted to help because God has been so good to me but I am trying to make sense of my feelings and questioning everything except my salvation. What is my calling? Do I have a calling? Am I at the right church? Why do I feel so useless?

[@Abbamyfather]

@rocketblue60 Sorry to see you are struggling with depression. Just know depression is from the enemy, and you will need a delivernace from it. Hoping and praying God leads you to this. Surrender everything to him, Mathew 7:7. Remember, you can do all things thru Christ who gives you strength.

[@Myfutcher]

Good day. Speak to Jesus how you are feelling. I have a friend that at one stage that God spoke to her and people denied what God was saying to her. At one stage she got depressed and suicidal. And on the highway she tried to commit suicide. God took the steering wheel. And she yelled at Him. And God answered her that she does not know Him. She went on a journey to speak to Him and read His word. She told me that people must ask Jesus directly and He will answer you just like He answered her

[@Tristan-benge]

Well said. Our faith is always to Jesus. Hebrews 12:2 NKJV‬ looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. It's the same has The story about the house built on sand and rock. God bless Kim

[@hollybraddock2642]

I love thoughts on thurs for this very reason, I love thought s you have and I think God is bringing that to light. He does say in his word be careful how you build on his foundation. I need Jesus to be my center and I want him to guide me . I am glad you have relationships that you can discuss these thoughts with , very awesome. I miss that. So thank you for including us in these discussions!!!❤❤

[@teresafrancis1528]

Way to go Kim. Beware the good ideas, we’re looking for the God idea. And of course Gods thoughts and ways are not ours ❤

[@bradsolomon1386]

I get the sense that you are feeling exploited by others and it's likely you have been. I have had similar experiences both at work and in the church, and it doesn't feel good. Unfortunately, that is the world we live in. Psalm 37 is a good reminder that the Lord will make things right if we stay loyal to Him. Proverbs 16:8 - Better is a little with righteousness, than vast revenues without justice.

[@krystalbeaton1059]

Myself included, over the years God has been cleaning house with me including chasing fantasies. The dream I had going into my twenties I held onto and realized it was more me trying to make it God's. I have devoured the intricacies of scripture to have it really delivery me from the seducing spirits that our flesh can become so entwined with. It's basically idolatry, and I have been humbled to live that quiet life God calls us to be content with. Save the years wasted and get back to scripture basis. So many people have ideas but are they God's or our flesh? Even if they are well intentioned? "Those who work their land will have abundant food, but those who chase fantasies have no sense." Proverbs 12:11

[@andrewuweh7256]

Thank you so much

[@emmanuelbautista6062]

God bless you!!!

[@Newhorizons..]

Well said the love the exsplanation's

[@preciousobasi6898]

Thanks a lot, ma'am ❤. You always bless me; whether you're singing or just sharing your thoughts. Love you always 🤍🫶

[@marielundstrom7694]

Very very important stuff❤

[@RASHASA1237]

GOD!!! WERE!!! DEFINITELY!!! SPEAKING!!! THROUGH!!! YOU!!! BE!!! BLESSED!!!🕊🤍

[@Gamechanger-gh1pz]

I highly and truly agree , most people who left church that one know, you ask them why, they’ll be like` the pastor/ head of the church did this, did that , didn’t, doesn’t' and I ask you go to church for God or for someone else . I think people should not leave church ⛪️ or God based on what others had done.

[@yambiechiterah9565]

Thus right 👍

[@pergi-manching]

When I started getting visions, verses were impressed upon my heart right away. Then, like with Jeremiah, "Look closer," then unpack to discern the gift (or not) over time. And interesting how God speaks o v e r t i m e doesn't he? Two specific visions from 2005-2006 are still playing out, but praise God, I can look back and see he was foretelling me of "sifting" and "fire" (incredible discomfort and rejection coming). We cannot rely on others' experiences or, "Knowledge is Power." We are very welcome to a very personal relationship with God 3-in-1. And, Satan tried to give false visions. False fear only involved with no Word confirmation. Basically just, "I would like you to think I am going to kill you " But, the Holy Spirit always points to Jesus, the Word, and we have others and elders to talk to, amen?

[@user-cc4pe5op8y]

I have trouble understanding the Bible-the words and the meanings -I’m Autistic and I take thing literally-an example-Jesus being the lion and the lamb…..I literally thought he was an actual lion!!! I would love if anyone has any suggestions on how I can learn more about Jesus --

[@revelatoryimagesoutreach2749]

“… unless the Lord build the house…”

[@juliehealingleaf6211]

I had my neck healed at Bethel Friday night service back in around 07. It felt like my nerve or bone was being rebuilt so odd feeling and the oil of tranquility came over me for 20 min never wanted it to go away

[@user-cc4pe5op8y]

True! none of us have all the answers…….but you do explain things in a way that my brain can understand……. And also I still have my L plates on and you Kim are a more experienced than me

[@neililes9479]

Good thoughts

[@user-zm9kp8jv5z]

Thanks for bringing this up. It is interesting. It reminds me in proverbs how the lord loves balanced scales.. it gets weird without balance maybe?

[@randybarker8968]

ABSOLUTELY.... THE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS

[@randybarker8968]

At that point it becomes works ... encourage the study concerning hireling's ... BOOK OF ISAIAH, LUKE , ACTS ... every questions answers are in the BIBLE ... PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM YES

[@andrewuweh7256]

This is for me

[@jamiberninger1633]

Lol hi yeah ok I love your video thank you have fun this is your holloween chick from Indiana we good over here I'm alright at home I love you Kim be safe.💀😎😊🤭❤️🥳

[@Angola88]

Kim ,open up a platform and let your fans sing some of the songs you sing!! ❤

[@aarongraves9431]

Sorry Kim… Bad example. Until the chef has the OTHER skills and resources, they are a chef not a business person. Not that anyone has to stay there but the thought sows discontentment and as much greed as assumed of the business person - which our society is now rich with. However, I hear what you’re saying regarding ministry error. When God calls us to something, it will take more investment from the called than anyone else. No primary investment of a leader is a huge red flag 🚩

[@girlRock1000]

Kim, Can you please do a Thoughts on Thursday about your song The glory? It's revolutionized how I lead worship. Thank you so much for Trample🎉 P.S. I loved this video, I've questioned some of the same things you mentioned 💛

[@KimWalkerSmithMusic]

You know… that’s a good idea :)

[@islandrichent]

For your example I would believe God will give both/all parties the nudge to move in that direction. If the person says God gives them that idea but you don’t feel a release to or you have that doubt then it’s something to pause and seek God unless you get the release to from God & it’s likely not something you have been called to be involved in.

[@Dariansweb]

i agree there should be only One Leader, Jesus Christ, none are leaders but servants. Influence can be overbearing and make us lose grasp of this Truth, as Moses cried before God for the Israelite's complaining. As their servant, Moses would have accepted the fateful judgement of God upon himself in their place. This makes a "leader", one with the people, we don't separate ourselves when the people fail because we are ALL One Body in Christ.

[@stevenhuber7815]

You're talking about the first church in Acts. God is doing it again, be patient, it is coming.

[@lovewithpurpose8425]

Amen!

[@victorious123]

Wait for it.

[@tetianapanfilova966]

The truth is that whatever building you might try to build without Jesus being in it will sooner or later be ruined (Mathew 7:24-27). It is important to make sure whether God really wants anything before starting to do it. It is very sad and disappointing when such house is destroyed. It would be even better to test your motives before starting to do something "for God". Sometimes, it might only be the dreams & desires of the heart. ❤

[@bioluminescentheart]

Jesus is the Capstone & the Cornerstone!

[@lindafett1826]

Kim, I had someone share with me during a conversation a pyramid she used Exodus 17:12-14 Aaron and Hur🔻supporting Moses arms up Yes, Jesus is our foundation🔻

[@sfpsdave]

Amen! and Amen! young lady….So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭19‬-‭20‬❤

[@lexilovesjesus4136]

Follow Jesus and you can’t go wrong!❤

[@StrongInHim24_7]

Upside down piramide, I like it

[@graceturqueza1083]

But God called Moises who was not equipped to talk or even has a little bit of negotiating skills with the Pharoah but God just asked him to be cooperative, trusting and be available. God sometimes asked people who are not equipped but is available to OBEY God in their hearts, mind and soul.

[@user-cc4pe5op8y]

My Autistic brain has real trouble reading and understanding the Bible-so I kind of need to take information and questions I have from more experienced Christian people -but I don’t always agree-I do listen carefully and look at all other explanations

[@jaquelinefernandademitti7218]

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[@stephenmacafee5478]

Well said Kim :-) I believe we are an imperfect people following perfect Jesus. If anyone puts their sole faith in one leader, they are bound to fall away if that leader fails them. Christ is the head of the church, not man, Christ is the chief cornerstone, not man. So to put all our faith in someone who isn't Jesus is a recipe for disappointment. The Word of God should be our source of truth, above the words of even the most influencial leaders in the church. We are all equal parts of the body of Christ whether we have a platform or not. At my church there are two main pastors, a married couple, I often see the wife serving on the usher team, which I think is a beautiful example of how Jesus came not to be served, but to serve.

[@jennygordon1918]

A very heavy in- depth thought Kim. Leaves us with much to talk over with The Lord. Thank you for your openness. Stay safe and ABSOLUTELY God Blessed. 🙏🕊️💕

[@jasoncase5286]

I believe that may be the first step is the dream- he will govern and give the tools and resources- Jesus use me - however you choose and when it’s time to move I will. It makes no revenue of how another person dictates thier lives of references … cries and complaints are not of the will of God.

[@jasoncase5286]

Isaiah 43 18-19 Philippians 3 :13 You know these scriptures- is that it ? Is your feelings more important than the truth? You got good ideas I love the inverted pyramid reference that is effectively distinct but … the walk you’re currant to keep makes a difference. Let it go- yesterday is gone and no matter how many different ways you try to excuse yourself for feeling ripped off it’s ok - that foundation is not built on God - you are so quit letting the lil red dude steal your joy you have arms open wide waiting hearts awakening and new life breeding in and through you- let it go the truth will set you free knuckle up soldier you’re loved and not wearing it because you choose to put on the temper tantrum and cross your arms and make masks to so everyone will jump on your team - it all seems right till the enemy comes to cross examine- just know the things you do see and the feelings about how they did what they done was not of Hod say thankyou for the separation and walk into this newness of salvation because that’s what it is - it’s going to be ok I love you

[@jasoncase5286]

GOD - how come spell check doesn’t work spelling God?

[@jasoncase5286]

Take what applies and leave the rest

[@jasoncase5286]

Ephesians 4:31-32

[@jasoncase5286]

Your fingers are beautiful

[@ndzinezamora7079]

Sounds just like Moses! 🤔

[@josevasquez-ju8rb]

botton and the top dear..

[@Gamechanger-gh1pz]

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