Did Humanity Travel To Other Galaxies? - 40K Theories

[@40KTheories]

To further clarify, this video isn't asking whether humanity simply journeyed beyond the galactic rim (as the newest Blackstone Fortress is _technically_ outside of the galaxy), but rather if they actually travelled to another galaxy entirely. But anyway, if you would like to help support the channel and gain early access to videos like this, then consider supporting us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/c/40ktheories

[@arielhamm-flores6893]

good one vaults just been thinking about this as well last few days imagine if thay found something with no warp? could humans even go at this point

[@40KTheories]

@@arielhamm-flores6893 I'm not Vaults ^^; But thank you, glad you enjoyed it.

[@vladimirmihnev9702]

I always found it funny how little the people that write 40k understand how science works. Humanity in 40k can bend spacetime since void ships have artificial gravity and that's a bend in spacetime. Using the same technology you can accelerate without feeling it and shortening distances basically go faster than light. Actually that's what necrons do.😂

[@talisenamell]

I love the idea of Dark Age humans still existing in another galaxy and being that galaxies version of the Necrons or even Old Ones

[@TKUltra971]

Rips a page right out of BattleTech (new lore im learning) but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a cabal of hoarders of Dark Age tech that not only collected it, but KNEW HOW TO USE IT and rebuild it hidden somewhere. They could rival the Mechanicus as they don't know how to build half the crap they replicate.

[@danielseelye6005]

The Clans return to Imperium of Man. 😳

[@Subject_Keter]

Too bad they are nids food 😂

[@TKUltra971]

@ ...probably.

[@michaelolmos8257]

they would probably take on good like at the absolute hell, and unceasing nightmare of our shithole for a galaxy and would immediately declare "on second thought... let the sorry ass chuckle fucks duke it out over there all they want, because we ain't taking the one-way trip back to... that quagmire clusterfuck mess of that galaxy"

[@sub-optimalwargaming9311]

I always enjoy the sci-fi concept that true AI would just run off and not even bother with humanity, because we are SUCH A-HOLES.

[@NERV_Mars]

*Humans go extra-galactic *utopia breaks out on the fleet *continue pursuing scientific and philosophical advances *finally have to go into hibernation Never wake up because Tyranids find the fleet and eat me barely a hundred years later. 😭

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

More like Tyranids find a scout ship and get their ass whooped by DAoT AI and avoid DAoT ships like the plague.

[@Maliz_Ultraviolet_Lantern]

Inb4 Cawl has already invented an entire fleet to jump across the universe without any risk to go along with his hand-held time travel technology that nobody batted an eye about…

[@Subject_Keter]

Inb4 Khrone can actually fight anyone 1v1 and win it 😂

[@BlasphemousDreadnought]

Knowing the size and scope of Trazyn's collection, I would wager that he has his metal mits on some DAOT ships.

[@40KTheories]

I'm fairly sure he does, as per the Fall of Cadia novel (if I recall correctly).

[@runnre]

That's why the Tyranids are running. Orks. Makes perfect sense and unluckily for the nids they are landing in the home galaxy of Orks and much worse.

[@TheWarmachine375]

It would have been great if the Aeldari Empire had spent their time and energy on exploring galaxies outside the Milky Way Galaxy than being bored of being on their highest peak and decided to do some super over-maximum fun times that made Slaanesh.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

The harlequins codex say the webway used to extend to the void

[@Subject_Keter]

Then all the nids would be eldar fusions... ya nah

[@zirtd9256]

does the warp exist outside the milky way galaxy? if not - can the Aeldar survive without the Warp? maybe all Aeldar are simply Stuck inside the Milky Way because thats the only place where the Warp exist?

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

​​@Subject_Keter nids are weak as they travel between the galaxies, so they would not be anle to just steam roll a sufficiently strong DAoT ship. They rely on stored energy in the very long time it takes them to travel that distance. And their hive ships don't instantaneously wake up upon encountering things in the outer dark. All this is implied by much of the nids lore that deals with them entering from the outer dark into the Milky Way.

[@Turkoktonos1]

How about magellan's clouds? Imagine some of the humans from dark age of tech hiding there and neglect to come into contact with their degenerate decendents in the milky way or are already preparing to take over the milky way.

[@danielseelye6005]

Basically like the Clans from Battletech.

[@Turkoktonos1]

@@danielseelye6005 Really? no idea.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

The Magellan clouds got incursions by the Imperium, as said in Horus Heresy Tempest

[@syos1979]

Voice Quills got uploaded to the Dark Age of technology voidship, holy crap Lois!

[@mistercmartin]

Hear me out. DAOT humans made it to another galaxy only to be eaten by Tyranids. The hive mind wasn't able to determine the location of the Milky Way (the human AI plotted the course, so the humans didn't actually know the way back), but learned that there was still an uneaten galaxy. That's what started the nids' journey, but the destruction of the Pharos Beacon is what gave them the exact location.

[@eagleofceaser6140]

I'd say if the Dark Age of Technology Humans had the ability to travel to another galaxy someone would have done so.

[@davidjames1068]

The AI implied it could reach another galaxy without passengers. It did not say how long it would take and if any humans would survive the voyage. However it's plan to do so would imply that it knew it would be possible to do so because previous voyages had actually done so and reported back.

[@brandonaughtman9091]

Maybe they were more focused on using the warp to get around and thought that the warp did not really exist outside of the galaxy? Maybe they just wanted to sink their roots deeply into the Milky Way before shipping off?

[@TKUltra971]

Its very possible, something that they hinted at but never fully explored was if the warp was unique to the Milky Way or did it expand the universe. Is it something that sentient races carry with them or not? There was the one short story where a dark age of tech with AI came out of the warp only to have the human crew boarded by a ship patrol and confronted the AI. Its funny, even in that story the AI seemed a bit.. Sus. "I can't do that Dave..." type of vibes. So TLDR: if that is possible, then yeah going to Andromeda is very possible.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

The warp Is parallel to reality, and the codex makes clear the chaos gods' gaze extends through all of time and space

[@TKUltra971]

@@marrvynswillames4975 sort of, it contradicts itself several times over. the chaos gods aren't all knowing or even all seeing. there's parts of the warp that they can't even go to without fear of being destroyed. so old fluff to new fluff, it's not answered. I doubt they even could (see into other galaxies), that would derail Old One's lore. Its deeper than Wiki or Lex, that thing is beyond incomplete.

[@SnipeandWib]

Well you see, it is a long way to other galaxies, but if you just paint your ship red then you'll get there much faster. Humans just lack the logical thinking of Orks so don't think to try this obvious solution.

[@scrooge6975]

Now we can be 100% percent sure. Somewhere outside of galaxy. There are purple orks. Purple makes orks sneaky. And no one ever seen an purple ork.

[@chainsawsubtlety9828]

Humans explored, then conquered, another galaxy. They managed to, somehow avoid the AI rebellion. They never had an Age of Strife. They continued to advance, for the last ten thousand odd years. Somewhere in that period of time, the Nids invaded this new Human Homeland. As a result, and given the Human's godlike tech, Humans are what the Tyranids are running from.

[@maddlarkin]

They beat that Hive Fleet so hard it jumped universe and changed its name to Prethoryns to escape

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

Nothing can conquer the Indomitable Human Spirit! The Shadow in the Warp is nothing more than endless loops of Human Chad memes blasting through the Hive Minds Psyche!!!

[@michaelhowell2326]

Malcador had one of the Voyager probes, but perhaps the other one made it out of the Milky-Way.

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

9:13 Orks would never leave the Galaxy simply because they don't want to wait so long between fights. They always prefer going where they sense the best fights are to be had.

[@UrbanTheFox]

Give the Eldars use of the Webway and Warp Vessels only, would they be tied to the Milky Way? Also, does the warp exist beyond our galaxy? The Nids method of FTL seams to confirm this and of so, is it much calmer (perhaps too calm for navigating)?

[@40KTheories]

The way the Tyranids travel through space is... inconsistent. Some sources say they lack FTL travel entirely, others say they have limited capabilities, and others say they have full FTL capabilities. It seems to depend on both the edition and author. As for the warp expanding beyond the milky way, given that the warp is an entire plane of reality (and is known to affect other universes, such as WHFB/AoS, Dark Future, Talisman etc) I don't see why it can't also expand to other galaxies. And in regards to the Aeldari, seeing as how the Webway was constructed by the Old Ones (who originated from within the Milky Way), then unless the Old Ones built the Webway to expand beyond the galactic rim I can't imagine the Aeldari spreading into, say, Andromeda for example.

[@UrbanTheFox]

@40KTheories Thank you for the informative reply.

[@Matt-md5yt]

awesome.

[@viewernewest]

What about the necrons? Szarekh did venture beyond the borders of the Milky Way galaxy during his self imposed exile. Maybe he left a Necron contingent in the Andromeda galaxy when he saw the scope and scale of the Tyranid threat?

[@40KTheories]

Possibly. Though I was always under the impression that Szarekh went out on his own while the rest of Necron race entered the Great Sleep. Plus while he did go beyond the galactic rim, this doesn't necessarily mean he actually reached another galaxy per say (though that doesn't mean that he didn't either, in fairness).

[@marrvynswillames4975]

Admiral Ursus rolls worst policy ever Asked to leave the galaxy

[@ak318]

Love the video as a whole but something about the AI reffeering to the Milky way as a warp poisoned galaxy is making me have so many questions and thoughts

[@Historyfrek4ever]

The problem with colonising another galaxy is that while ships like “spirit of eternity” will eventually reach a new galaxy, same with necrons since they don’t care how long it takes. For humanity the issue is time. Warp travel might actually be impossible for humanity, because while I think warp exist through whole universe, there are no minds to effect it between galaxies. This is an issue because then it is effectively calmed and human war ships can’t travel there similarly to what happens in the pariah nexus. We can even consider the fact that tyranids are intrinsically psychic species but don’t use warp travel as an evidence for this theory.

[@dstubby82]

Could we leave our galaxy without becoming tyranids snacks?

[@40KTheories]

The Zoats managed to leave their home galaxy and escape the Tyranids, so I'd say it's possible. It depends on which way you go.

[@maddlarkin]

Well if you go into a really old story with the 'Nids the defeats of Behemoth and Kraken were described as 'rare reversal' which implies other galaxies have resisted the Tyranids and it anything could resist the Hive swarms a Dark Age Human empire in another galaxy would certianly be one

[@damo6794]

Yes, they're is a great but short excerpt in one of the heresy blackbooks about the emperor going outside the galaxy to fight the Khrave, never managed to find it again 😂 and the Big E had a scope that could see other galaxies, magnus sees it in fury of magnus.

[@40KTheories]

Remember that there's a difference between simply going outside the galaxy (as the newest Blackstone Fortress for instance is technically beyond the galactic rim) and actually going to another one altogether :)

[@damo6794]

Fair point! ​@@40KTheories

[@matrixtrollmarine]

Well given how op dark age tech is (which isn't a lot to go on) it's certainty

[@MrTurbowhitey]

Anyone with brains and working starships left this shit hole galaxy in the 30th millennium, or earlier. Say, pre Eldar oopsie. But then Games work would just sta they got *Eaten by The Swarm* or some other convoluted nonsense

[@Matt-md5yt]

Squats where like that

[@tba113]

So, that DAoT ship's AI was powerful enough to stop a Mechanicus retrieval team exploring the ship dead in its tracks, even hacking the living brains of the servitors - but was powerless to stop the Imperium from boarding, capturing, and executing the crew as heretics, and that's all it took for it to hold Mankind in general in complete contempt? I mean, what, it's never heard of pirates before? Yeah, I think that AI had more Warp-fueled nonsense than just a bit of temporal displacement going on.

[@watcherzero5256]

It was my understanding that it was impossible to travel to another galaxy using Warp travel because the Warp itself didnt extend beyond our own galaxy. You would need an alternate method of FTL like that employed by the Necron leader when he fled the galaxy.

[@40KTheories]

Seeing as how the Warp is able to spread throughout entire universes, I personally see no reason why it can't expand beyond the Milky Way itself.

[@maddlarkin]

Given the warp is a sea of psychic energies and the entities in it psychic manifestations of various strengths, I would imagine that the warp continues as far as the universe but is only active and churning around inhabited galaxies, in the voids between it is probably still so a ship could become becalmed unless it had some artifical means to push it rather than surfing warp currents, probably something beyond the contemporary Imperium but not I imagine beyond the techo-sorcery of the age of technology

[@poodlescone9700]

There are smaller satellite galaxies orbiting the Milky Way. There should absolutely be human colonies in these galaxies.

[@WanderingVictorious]

A comment for the comment gods

[@vladimirmihnev9702]

It will be hilarious when it comes out that non only we did but the nids are running from the humans that made it to their Galaxy and decided those xenos must die!

[@michaelhowell2326]

The Spirit of Eternity was kind of a jerk for allowing the Imperium to try and execute its crew.