DID JAY-Z MAKE BITING COOL??? LETS ADDRESS THIS FOR THE LAST TIME!!!

[@kl4875]

One thing about Esso he gonna tell it like it is he ain’t gonna water down for nobody he gonna speak his mind and I respect that

[@kernulkilem]

Straight up, I look forward to his comments cause he keep real.

[@ashleyc434]

I love when Esso on. Just for that reason

[@daltontyson]

Facts

[@jojothewhale6545]

FACTS!!!

[@bruceleeds7988]

📠

[@mrrehab84]

When Camron can make a 7 minute compilation track of all the stuff you bit, yeeaa its alot

[@andilegxelesha-maqashu7348]

How ironic, Cam has more than 7 minutes of Jay-z lines in his own shit.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@andilegxelesha-maqashu7348 exactly 😂

[@boomboombaby9140]

@@andilegxelesha-maqashu7348 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

[@StromLxrd6]

lol yo I'm glad you brought that up great point

[@fespn4734]

But the hypocrisy is cam did it too....

[@kevthepoet]

STOP IT. Hov didn't just pay homage to Biggie. Me and My Girlfriend was straight stealing from 2Pac. 99 Problems was straight stealing from Ice T. Jay Z is a biting thief.

[@djCALIKIDTV]

YOP

[@JoeSmith-bk4nr]

Both y’all reaching

[@djCALIKIDTV]

@@JoeSmith-bk4nr FUCC JAY-Z, NOW REACH THAT

[@kevthepoet]

@@JoeSmith-bk4nr how? Facts is facts, get off his nuts.

[@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570]

Sampling happen all the time so what nigga? Ya’ll hate hard lol.

[@jojothewhale6545]

Math’s “please don’t ruin a future potential check for me Esso” face was PRICELESS!!!

[@esseen100]

🤣

[@fsmast1]

😂

[@andim.8788]

that was it for real

[@Joe-oj4rh]

That's how you know he's fake af he only say what you wanna hear not the truth.

[@solarciti5105]

Folks afraid to talk bad about JAY-Z scard to lose any type of relationship

[@BingeworthyContent]

Naw. Just a Brooklyn thing with Math. Lol. Just defending his borough. Also, how many of Jay's lines have been bit... ALOT. I've heard the "Who's the best MCs, Biggie, Jay-Z and Nas" bit a thousand times. "It's a secret society all we ask is trust" also. Those are just two off the top of my head but Jay's shit has been "bit" also

[@Imeanwellshit]

They don’t have no relationship w/ that man to the point of fearing losing it. It’s facts. He literally been feeding this man’s family off of that nd been doing that since he was alive. Besides homage like that been going on forever nyway

[@flyfit5611]

Facts they scared of this nigga jay

[@user-mb6nf9wt3k]

Dead ass lmao cuz biggie wasn’t the only lines jay was using , they really caping

[@user-mb6nf9wt3k]

@@Imeanwellshit so maybe they not protecting jay. But then that mean they don’t kno what they talkin bout , cuz he used other rappers lines other than bigie !!

[@TripSe7en_77]

“How many Biggie rhymes is gon’ come out yo fat lips?” - NaS Some folks did look at it as biting and Jay did catch heat for it. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t create his own ish, but the borrowed lines did get frowned upon in some hip hop circles.

[@fah232]

Right...

[@gwm30329]

When did niggas started worshipping Jay Z??? Who this nigga battle since he lost to Nas and not to mentioned Eminem mopped him on his own song. Holla @ us when this nigga ready to get in the ring. Notice how often KRS1 and LL COOL J is mentioned. Jay-Z amongst a few others Jay-z definitely is part of the G.O.A.T family but he ain't beaten Eminem, KRS-1, LL Cool J, or NAS.

[@naturesown1807]

@@gwm30329 Or DMX or PAC

[@ricardomigu-elcerroali4779]

​​@@gwm30329 When Biggie died, he told the world he was Heir to the Throne. Niggaz said he was biting, he said he was paying homage, go to 0:33 - 0:40 minutes. Watch the Blue Magic work. Math look tight. The Power of Suggestion,ain'tjust some New Age shit. "Just one minute after it's heard You all'll recite it, you all'll repeat it You'll call me a genius, if you didn't Now that I said it I forced you to think it" - Nas

[@MikeBlaze718]

Hov bit from everyone big, pac, big l, mobb deep, nas, rakim, jaz-o, krs, he jacked young chis whole flow!!

[@VitaminVisionTV]

It always surprises me in hip-hop how the "rules" apply to some but don't apply for others.

[@michaelyantakadatruth2925]

He never mentioned his man name when he was biting and it wasn't just his man he was biting off of Nas

[@jasonwilliams9307]

💯💯💯

[@ejnytryta5466]

And Snoop!

[@Havoc-g7v]

FACTS. How dude said jay immediately responded to niggas saying he bites biggies rhymes too much. Nas addressed it first on ether. Jay responded 3 years later

[@ricardomigu-elcerroali4779]

​@@Havoc-g7v They act like Jay Z didn't want to name his album, Heir to Throne, the same year B.I.G. Died. That's when the criticism of him using B.I.G. memory to serve his name and career started. But none of these, "We was there ass niggaz don't remember shit, just the two hits, her hitting the floor and me hitting the clits." lol😅😂

[@franciscolopez2782]

He bit more artists then big , stole songs , concepts, slang ,cadences . Smart man who aligned himself with waves . Philly , Kanye , young Chris .

[@durterebelz]

💯

[@STAYBOMBINFLACKO]

ETC!!!

[@reesebonez]

TALLKKKK

[@odeity7029]

Wasn't a Artist, was a hustler.

[@dayoungchief]

Facts

[@trapcapital2408]

Jayz BIT CAPPADONNA LINES! REMEMBER WHEN JAYZ SAID, ''I CAME TO THE FORK IN THE ROAD AND WENT STRAIGHT''

[@kheo]

Yeah but that's just a slicc hood saying Like "if you see me in a fight with a bear help the bear" (which ironically Jay said that in a freestyle

[@imperialstats]

Facts keep it 💯 Jay wasn't always paying homage he doing some Brooklyn style take yo shit .. he was biting artist like ra the rugged man somebody most ppl ain't even heard of plus he bit Nas who he didn't like at the time as while as other artists I'ma Jay Z fan but keep it real don't Stan out so much you deny when they do something And act Like he Only bit Biggie Lines 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@EverybodyHatesChrisNow]

Bro that’s literally just a common phrase

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

That’s a saying from wayyy back probably over 50 years.

[@twall2836]

@@ArtisanWindchimes Google I'm not a writer I'm a biter

[@KeizeShow]

I performed on a *circular stage* multiple times in Phoenix, AZ @ Celebrity Theatre. (Footage on my channel) The stage actually revolves while you're performing and the crowd is all around you in theatre style seating. Very dope experience.

[@solarciti5105]

Math got so uncomfortable when ESCO started talking about bitting he wanted to say "man are u serious right now"

[@Massacre2k11]

Who’s the battle rapper that copied the funk flex freestyle?

[@kirbyaugustine761]

LL gave rappers the hip hop blueprint although he doesn’t get enough credit overall. Every rapper has taken from. Living Legend Cool James is the goat 🐐

[@mostmost1]

Melle Mel did that. He invented the term Emcee.

[@kirbyaugustine761]

@@mostmost1 LL with Walking with A Panther was spitting about money, cars, and jewelry before Puffy and the “shiny suit” era. He also had every rapper spitting to the ladies with “I Need Love” and had every dude in the gym when he dropped that “Luv U Better” joint.

[@mostmost1]

@@kirbyaugustine761 Melle Mel was spitting about that in the 70s! Him Grand Master Caz and Kool moe Dee. They did it on all the samples LL used to make hits. LL was in the audience at the parks jamming to them. LL says this out his own mouth. Melle Mel a multi Grammy winner, first to do collabs with r&b artist. Chaka Kahns I feel for you. White lines about cocaine etc etc. LL did bring women with I need love and a young crowd. However he was using Mel flow mixed with Tla rock.

[@dmoney668]

Well said

[@donneysimpson8536]

Thank you ES$O. These podcast cats never want to say ANYTHING! Except Jay Z is the man, the best, the goat etc. Like they don't want to blow a chance of him doing their podcast first. Go listen to "I'm a biter, not a writer" Jay paid homage to a lot of other rappers lines. C'mon son!

[@imperialstats]

Yea the think they get him to interview so they don't wanna call out his biting history which includes way more then biggie lines lol

[@jamalevans1574]

FACT

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

You can make that up for almost all the 90s legends. Even look up one on KZbin called “I Don’t Write Sh!t” where someone compiled all the times Cam bit rapper’s bars. And Cam one of my favorite rappers just calling a spade a spade. Even Nas took Rakim’s line “I’m the N.. the A.. to the S.. I.. R, if I wasn’t I’m must’ve been Escobar”. Rakim originally said “I’m the R.. the A.. to the K.. I.. M, if I wasn’t then why would I say I am”

[@FatherAndTeacherTV]

​@@imperialstats Who else did Jay-Z bite off of, besides Biggie?

[@imperialstats]

@@FatherAndTeacherTV go on KZbin look up ,"I'm not a writer I'ma biter" and a compilation song will come up and you can hear lines he took

[@theeobserverseye1052]

It’s sad how scary dudes are. Just admit that it was what it was. Dudes act like they gon get banned for speaking the truth or something. This game is full of mushy yogurt type dudes now

[@thefreakyrobber0]

Exactly, thank you for saying this!!! Tell the truth, the nigga was biting like ESSO said. They just fans or stans who probably want him in the show🤷🏿‍♂️

[@HeatKingsMusic]

ALL FACTS

[@naturesown1807]

I completely agree but what is mushy yogurt? 😂

[@theeobserverseye1052]

@@naturesown1807 soft, ice cream or frappé type of guys. The opposite of SOLID

[@curtis75black]

So everyone is “Paying Homage” though ? If you not outside when BIG was poppin’, or never listened to him, you wouldn’t know those bars from “Give It To Me” was from BIG. Y’all love Jay so much you’re giving him the benefit of the doubt. It is what it is y’all.

[@rodrigobarba930]

Benefit of the "reasonable" doubt??? Lol jk, yea biting is biting. No one wants to admit it. And just cause Jay admits it and call it paying homage doesn't mean it's not biting.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Read the credits on the song “Give It To Me”… tell me what you see.

[@curtis75black]

@@ArtisanWindchimes If it doesn’t say co-written by Christopher Wallace, I don’t want to hear it.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@curtis75black look at the publishing credits

[@curtis75black]

@@ArtisanWindchimes 2 hours ago I was on Wikipedia. I seen his name on it. Which is the right thing to do.

[@Del_116]

Hov did change his flow when nas showed up . 😅 I remember that shit

[@Mic-100]

Facts

[@davidmcclain8851]

💯💯💯

[@dayoungchief]

Jay Has a career of biting lines, He took it overboard and yes he made it cool.

[@leftmytimbsatyourgirlsplace]

You know biting means you take lines and try to pass them off as your own right??? So what jay line did he take and try to pass off as his own???? Now before you answer that….make sure whatever line you’re about to say is not a line THAT YOU PERSONALLY just didn’t know was a line from somebody else.

[@kaydee1485]

@@leftmytimbsatyourgirlsplace huh? Why are u giving conditions to finding bitten lines lol?

[@leftmytimbsatyourgirlsplace]

@@kaydee1485 i was making a point. A lot of people don’t know what hov was doing is called an “Allusion”. Its a literary term meaning when an author references another author’s body of work, that the author assumes the reader already knows. I see a lot people who say Hov was biting usually don’t know that these lines are already well known rap lines from other artists. Biting is only biting if a rapper is trying to pass off other’s artists lines as their own. Its hard to bite well known rappers rap lines due to everyone (except for cats who are casual hiphop heads) already know who those lines come from. Its like when cassidy said the line “I lost 92 bricks, had to fall back, knocked a nigga off his feet but I crawled back”. Now if you as the listener didn’t know thats a FAMOUS ass hov line from jump. Once someone tell yous its a hov line. You’re gonna assume cassidy was trying to bite hov. But he wasn’t….its an Allusion. Cassidy expected the listener to already know that was a hov line.

[@DeeMaxum]

Jay is a chameleon/shape shifter .. which is why he was able to stay relevant for so long... He rides waves and capitalizes off of it...hip hop, corporate, and social movements...he's an opportunist that's all.... Can he rap? Yes. Has he put out one of the best catalogs in Hip-Hop history? Yes... But overall he's an opportunist...

[@mwoo252]

Jay was biting Biggie’s bars and paying Biggie’s kids the royalties

[@kingp109]

Oh boy 🤦🏿‍♂️. It must feel good to have all that power to the point where no one in the industry can talk bad about you. Rap is just entertainment let it be.

[@Imeanwellshit]

Has nothing to do w/ power. You just don’t understand nything or don’t want to believe what they are saying for whatever personal reason u may have

[@bkborn4256]

It's not just power Hov got all this respect from being a top tier lyricist people act the same way about Pac and he's dead

[@naturesown1807]

@@bkborn4256 Pac also had power. I get your point but that wasn't the best example

[@ricardomigu-elcerroali4779]

​@@bkborn4256 2pac is an industry in himself. Death has not stopped that. 2pac the Man does not have the power because he is deceased. 2pac the Idea,spirit,entity, corporation,brand, energy etc.(whatever term can float a boat) has a great deal of power when it comes to the Business of Hip Hop. There's money to be gained from it. That's why there is no end to 2pac Conspiracies, Docuseries, film and TV shows, books, KZbin channels. And a host of every person he might have been within 7ft of, all sharing their "true" 2pac stories. Yet he's been dead over 25 years. Eminem is alive, he has certain power over shit based on his level of notoriety, success and achievement. But the arguments for and about him are beyond his power, they've taken on a life and "industry" of their own. Just like Jay Z.

[@francmittelo6731]

"There is a difference between biting and paying homage." Really! So, there must be a difference between snitching and telling the truth. Correct? LOL

[@LordJesusClay]

😂😂😂

[@anthonybaker5199]

Wow. Good 1 😂

[@curtis75black]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@eastwood_ib2126]

Real shit 🤣🔥

[@MrTee12]

The latter part of your comment reminded me of Charleston White

[@EliteBlackSash]

Oh word? The. That is probably the greatest business play in HipHop history. Every time the biggest name in the culture says his homie’s line - his man’s children get publishing off of that song? That. Is GENIUS

[@BishopZoneTV]

Jay bit a lot of lines no matter how they slice it and dice it. Not just Big but a lot of artist from east, west and the south. And Jay is a top 5 emcee of mine but he bit so many bars that a lot of ppl thought he came up with those lyrics on his own. That to me is where the problem’s at.

[@williamfoxii2511]

I agree with you but if ppl thought he came up with those lyrics then they don't know hip hop. Homage and biting is different in my opinion sayin a line (Jay-Z) is paying homage. Saying 16 Bars, cadence or whole song (Drake) is biting

[@BishopZoneTV]

@@williamfoxii2511 Jay has borrowed cadence and several bars tho.

[@jeanmichele3843]

@@BishopZoneTV every rapper has done that, including Biggie. It’s apart of hip hop.

[@BishopZoneTV]

@@jeanmichele3843 we’re talking about rappers that are considered one of the greatest of all-time. And Jay is one of my favorite artist but he bit more lines way more than any other artist considered a goat. I’m a Hiphop head. Biting was always considered a no/no. Ppl just gave Jay a pass cause he was Ill on his own accord. Bigging up is a cop out especially when he was bitten Nas lines before they got into their beef.

[@jeanmichele3843]

@@BishopZoneTV all of the all time greats have either quoted famous lines from popular rap songs and/or had their style influenced by someone else. That’s not unique to Jay. Y’all just don’t have a broad understanding of hip hop’s history, therefore y’all think Jay is the only one who does this.

[@t.c.o.g.773]

I gotta side with ESSO on this one ☝🏿 🎯🎯🎯

[@354allday]

Exactly...them other dude wanna get invited to the brunch

[@michaelyantakadatruth2925]

Why brothers act like they can't disagree with Jay?

[@sheltonyoung3091]

Because they try to portray Jay as the Carlos Gambino of the industry lol

[@UniVS427]

Ppl scared of being black balled if they speak ill of jay lol

[@adnanojd]

Opportunity

[@curtis75black]

Niggas are shook, that’s why !!!

[@nvm7191]

@@adnanojd all of the above lol

[@dxavier3787]

Shout out to DJ Pooh and the LA Posse for delivering Bigger and Deffer. The West Coast produced that classic album.

[@curtis75black]

Hell Yeah !!!!

[@dantousuo1302]

That album was whatever. Ice cube first album was produced by the bomb squad from public enemy

[@curtis75black]

@@dantousuo1302 Bigger And Deffer was whatever ? Are you serious ? Was you even around when that album dropped ?!!!

[@dxavier3787]

@@dantousuo1302 1. Whatever? Haaaaaaaaa. 2. No fucking shit. Irrelevant to my point. Niggas look for any opportunity to be negative.

[@dxavier3787]

@@curtis75black He’s obviously a troll.

[@kingprimes7468]

Y'all be ridin Jay z like a mountain bike

[@apex305THC]

"Criminal Minded", as the KRS One album Roc was referring to.

[@FatherAndTeacherTV]

I'm going to have to go back and check it out.

[@leekleek1971]

Exactly Math!!! There is a long tradition of emcees telling other emcees they are listening by quoting them... yall gotta be students

[@CROOKS326]

The lines was Jay paying homage in my opinion but, the flow he adopted later on in his career was blatantly biting Young Chris from Young Gunz (State Property).

[@jizzledamayor334]

Jay stole everything includin da Roc

[@bigdshawn]

Straight facts

[@EverybodyHatesChrisNow]

I’m the biggest Jay Z fan and he is the GOAT IMO. But he did jack Young Chris “whisper flow”. I definitely agree with that timeframe.

[@imperialstats]

keep it 💯 Jay wasn't always paying homage he doing some Brooklyn style take yo shit .. he was biting artist like ra the rugged man somebody most ppl ain't even heard of plus he bit Nas who he didn't like at the time as while as other artists I'ma Jay Z fan but keep it real don't Stan out so much you deny when they do something And act Like he Only bit Biggie Lines 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@adove2a]

Okay now THATS biting!

[@k.montana7341]

Like Nas said "How much of Biggies rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips" y'all can defend Jay all you want but he's definitely a bitter from lines to flows. Ask Young Chris from State Property how he feels 😀😀. I know Math want that Hov interview but call it spade of spade sometimes when it comes to that man

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Young Chris literally called Jay the greatest rapper of all time recently on Big Face Gary’s podcast

[@imperialstats]

Facts Bit way more then Chris

[@joeljoseph2028]

Exactly dude bit too much biggie lines

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Jay-Z in 2001 on Lyrical Exercise: “Trinidad of the game, know my way around your ring” Nas in 2021 on Meet Joe Black: “Sugar Ray Robinson of the game, know my way around the ring”

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

@@ArtisanWindchimes Lmao

[@hiphopwildonyoutube]

Damn, Dat Was Funny When You Got All This Hip Hop Knowledge Sitting in One Room And Could Not Name KRS 1 Criminal Minded Album. LoL Heineken Face At 1:02 Was Priceless. #hiphopwild

[@Mathhoffa]

I knew it was criminal minded… 👍🏾

[@durterebelz]

This comment 😂😂😂 #facts

[@KBHfinanceguy]

I was sad when that happened... :(

[@jaefew1553]

Never watched this clip and today, i did...and i just watched a whole clip of goal posts being moved back and forth...Esso was speaking that gospel on this episode.

[@farooqolajubu3370]

Jay Z bit Outkast, Cash Money, Snoop, Nas, & a bunch of other brothers. These dudes d riding

[@xrayeblaquediamonds4440]

Not to mention he blackballed Joe Budden for a long time just because he didn't want to give him the beat to Pump It Up

[@JoeSmith-bk4nr]

Jay wrote Still!!! The Song, hook, and Both Dr Dre and Snoop versus don’t forget that

[@xrayeblaquediamonds4440]

@@JoeSmith-bk4nr I saw the interview you're talking about he didn't write both verses he wrote Dre's verse especially because Snoop just recently stopped writing his verses. And as previously stated he's bit off of people. Writing for a couple people when you steal from a few is still not equivalent. Besides when it comes to writing Jay hasn't legitimately wrote for someone in over a decade

[@mansatuk7615]

“There’s a sign on the door saying no biting allowed.” Master Ace (Symphony)

[@shes_carrybeyond6161]

This just takes me back to that Cam'ron mix tape!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@keithlawrence11]

Ppl must have forgotten about that joint! Alf Z!!!

[@jasonwilliams9307]

That shit was hardddd on mp3 player

[@durterebelz]

#Getemdaddy still slaps!

[@ogthugga6211]

Ya forgot when someone did the same thing to cam taking ppl lines?

[@MrRiq29]

@@ogthugga6211 lol facts the nerve of cam

[@shon41]

Im from this era and I remember when I think DJ Dirty Harry put out a mixtape with all Jay-Z raps he bit from other rappers, from Big Daddy Kane to Rakim, dope asf. It wasn't just Biggie he took lines from but Jay studied the art of it and its truly hard to be that consistent with hits without biting other rappers. Few were able to do it but few could spit bars like Jay💯

[@sciencemathematics7288]

yeah Jay didn't bite anybody's rhymes all he did was pay homage to all the artists and a lot of artists use Jay lines and pay homage

[@ricardomigu-elcerroali4779]

Terrible argument. Biting is a taboo in Hip Hop, Paying Homage is positive aspect of life and creative inspiration. But you saying every rapper a biter. What? That sounds like 70s to early 90s, rap isn't an art, it's derivative and unoriginal. Now you wearing a 👕 that's says Hip Hop ain't Art, it's derivative copying. You doing that for the Culture or because you really like Jay Z.(Who ain't into liking dudes no way) Is it all paying homage, because the Biggie is my boy shit don't add up with other artist. Jay Z is a strategic kind of person, but you think it was all showing love to hip hop. Not painting himself in a certain light(overcharging niggas for what they did to cold crush brothers.) Let's not always mix the two up because you love the artist or can see how talented they are. Mixing them breeds confusion, and allows less talented, manipulative and opportunistic people to come in under false pretense. And that makes the music Wacker. Why else we have to always give it up for Hov, no matter how it look. He's dope asf, but look all the artist that came after him. With questionable objections and loopholes they got from him. Did they elevate to his level of doneness as emcees and business people. Hell Nah...

[@ScottBurnhard]

you meann "Surf" (exciting lighting fighting) 🤣🤣🤣

[@esseen100]

It's crazy how none of them knew the title of BDP's first album. Dang I'm getting old.😄 BDP wasn't crashin' no Juice Crew shows. They would actually do shows together. In and out of state.🗣🎤🎶

[@glove6147]

Right that’s what I said. Criminal minded all day without struggling to remember

[@reeceetank]

Exactly!

[@esseen100]

@@glove6147 and you know how it is, sometimes when people ask you a question it'll strike you dumbfounded you'll just forget. But in this situation they just plain didn't know.🤣🤦🏿‍♂️

[@ricardomigu-elcerroali4779]

And they was like 88, 89. Like 86 was the year my guys...LL, BDP, Eric B and Rakim...c'mon son. Even funnier, all they're favorite rappers are Criminal Minded. 😅 That's the thing about people in the music business. They be very busy and very much in the paradigm of their OWN success and movements. Not enough space for the entire "Culture"Too Busy to pay attention to a lot of things, the average fan has a bit more time to think on. Then they get on camera, and have to front because they "Gatekeepers" lmfao 😂😂😂 Yall niggaz bugging, sounding like Melle Mell explaining why he thought Run DMC clothes was wack lol. Melle Mel the G.O.A.T. though...

[@keitho2479]

Jay whole flow changed after those boys from Philly started signing to ROC.

[@aundrellbrown1793]

So my question is when Jay z used Pacs rhymes the same way was that paying homage cause we all know Pac didn't like dude at all.... 🤔

[@gilbertbrown4183]

I've said something almost alike. Yet jay-z claimed 2Pac wasn't lyrical but he only had heart.

[@JIGSAMA45TH]

Raekwon and Ghostface skit on only Built for Cuban links album

[@svpcharls]

That one line: "You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song" ppl took it n ran with it. Yall got a point

[@Imichaelperry]

That was a sample in the beat not a line

[@svpcharls]

@@Imichaelperry im not talking about the actual sample, im talking about the actual line i just quoted. The world took it and ran with it. THIS quote, not the Nas sample.

[@viaromabandit5051]

Hilarious no one could name "Criminal Minded" even Rockwilder. But dopest podcast going. Big up Math.

[@mkilla230]

Even Nas called Jay out on Ether. That’s one of the reasons Ether hit hard. “How much of Biggies rhymes is gonna come out your gat lips?

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Jay-Z in 2001 on Lyrical Exercise: “Trinidad of the game, know my way around your ring” Nas in 2021 on Meet Joe Black: “Rap Sugar Ray Robinson, know my way around the ring”

[@daggerrrrrr]

@@ArtisanWindchimes "Rap sugar Ray Robinson but nothing sweet yall to outta shape to even box with me heavyweight I know my way around the ring.: Very different but nice try.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@daggerrrrrr basically exactly the same sh!t. Are you attempting to make an excuse?

[@daggerrrrrr]

@@ArtisanWindchimes nah no excuses. Nas always used boxing in his rhymes(your arms to short to box with god), he wasn't copying nobody.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@daggerrrrrr there goes that bias

[@HeatKingsMusic]

This is why i fuck with Esso, He keeps it a stack. People including myself were looking at Jay crazy back then because he was using Big bars way too much. Nobody ever said JAY doesn't have bars but that was some sucka shit.

[@seeitoldu1]

I listened to Jay more than Big. So a lot of the times he used Big lines i didn’t know he got them from Big. I only caught like two of them. So i get exactly what they sayin about people not knowing he was paying homage.

[@354allday]

The fact he wasn't acknowledging Big after the lines means he wasn't paying homage. Dude took Biggie opening line from juicy was the only time he paid homage

[@realniga3012]

Bro u definitely didn’t grow up on jay z or maybe u just don’t know biggie lines he made a lot of hooks and bars frm biggie

[@seeitoldu1]

@@realniga3012 you’re missing the point of what I’m saying.

[@seeitoldu1]

@@realniga3012 I’m agreeing with what they were saying. If you’re a younger person who didn’t know bigs stuff off the top of your head and you grew up hearing Jay more or first you’d think those were Jays bars so it’s not homage to most people. We’re kinda sayin the same thing

[@CadillacRhone]

Oh I got it he was paying homage to Big L, Slick Rick, 2pac, Snoop Dog, Ice T, Rakim, and Big Daddy Kane too.

[@brothacurbstomp]

He took Drunk in love from Future.

[@XODUS7]

I love Jay Z but this man literally stole 2Pac‘s entire song, “me and my girlfriend”. The only thing he changed were the two verses, and copied the entire beat and the hook. So it was not all paying homage, we gotta call a spade a spade sometimes that man was straight up biting 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@rogermontford1241]

I agree facts I like jay but he not the Goat

[@tfromcali89]

Pac got the concept from Nas so is that biting too?

[@hugh_jasso]

@@tfromcali89 a concept isnt the whole ass song though

[@RicoPointer]

Nigga 2Pac stole Me and My Girlfriend from Nas "I Gave You Power"

[@davidmartinez9804]

@@RicoPointer and now we know who the Goat is Nas!

[@ericbrooks939]

This was a great convo!

[@houndawg]

Camp Lo said Jay took their style on the feelin it track which was theirs originally

[@eib3137]

It was and if jay had got that luchini beat like he wanted that would've been one of the best songs of his career

[@AlexisGarcia-sp4st]

And “cant knock the hustle” was camp lo’s…he been biting

[@Ilovechicago100]

“You better pay big mama for using his lyrics…..you better pay big mama for using his lyrics”…….this was said on ghostface album 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mrjohnson2455]

One of Eminem coldest lines " what do I think of Success it sucks to much stress" Another dope line Jay took

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Eminem: “I am whatever you say I am, if I wasn’t then why would I say I am” Rakim: “I’m the R.. the A.. to the K.. I.. M, if I wasn’t then why would I say I am”

[@killablackmambakbm7593]

@@ArtisanWindchimes that meaning is competely different. Even the structure

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@killablackmambakbm7593 exact cadence and clearly reusing it

[@1FanofTHEECOSYSTEM]

@@ArtisanWindchimes That rhyme is so archaic I think I Rakim took it from another OLDER rapper but I can't remember whom right off top.

[@djCALIKIDTV]

Kuz when you KNOW RAP's HISTORY and grew up wit the 1st wave, you KNOW THE LYRICS!!!! FOH....

[@mistahmst]

Was it also considered biting when Ghostface was reciting lines from Rakim, Method Man, and even more obscure acts like Divine Force on Supreme Clientele?

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Nobody will answer you

[@mistahmst]

@@ArtisanWindchimes probably lol some of these people already got their minds made up and just don’t like Jay-Z

[@BingeworthyContent]

@@ArtisanWindchimes Because paying homage is a part of hip hop. Always has. Erick Sermon, Redman and Keith Murray literally took a WHOLE SONG basically and made a hit out of it. Lol. The hypocrisy is hilarious

[@BingeworthyContent]

@@mistahmst They just don't like Jay. Simple as that

[@Imeanwellshit]

@@BingeworthyContent I agree. Kids nowadays don’t understand. Nd it’s not like he was using it as his own competitively. It’s weird how he can be considered “doing it too much” what’s the issue

[@luddman77]

The issue with jay was, he wasn't just biting biggie during that time, he was biting all sorts of other rappers!!!

[@megabkny]

Like who? I heard everything 🤔 put me on maybe I missed it

[@luddman77]

@@megabkny nas, suede timbs on my feet make my cypher complete s dots on my feet big daddy king - come get some you little bums, i take the cake right out of the baker's thumb. juve - rocafella is a army better yet a navy slick rick- the rulers back, so off we go let the trumpets blow because the driver off this mission is a pro.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@luddman77 Jay-Z in 2001 on Lyrical Exercise: “Trinidad of the game, know my way around your ring” Nas in 2021 on Meet Joe Black: “Sugar Ray Robinson of the game, know my way around the ring” I can also quote Nas biting Rakim if you’d like

[@luddman77]

@@ArtisanWindchimes nas bites here & there but jay was going hard on a 3 album run.... 🤣😂😅

[@luddman77]

@@ArtisanWindchimes His actual lyric goes like this; Rap Sugar Ray Robinson nothin' sweet Y'all too out of shape to even box with me Heavyweight I know my way around the ring you tried that!!!

[@jameswilliams1180]

"I'm not a biter I'm a writer for myself and others I say a Big verse I'm only biging up my brother biging up my borough I'm big enough to do it I'm that thorough plus I know my own flow is foolish" Jay - what more can I say

[@ricardomigu-elcerroali4779]

'Cause None got more flows than Young Plus More flows to come AND IF I AIN'T BETTER THAN B.I.G. I'm the CLOSEST ONE" - Jay Z(Hola Hovita) off his BLUEPRINT. Hola hovita translates to HI, Little God. All Jay Z lyrics can be found in red in your Rap Biblios

[@brianlarkins4250]

What's pathetic about that is was Nas his brother at the time he made this cuz he bite on that song too S. Dots on my feet make the cipher complete. Yall let jay say anything to yall lmaoooooooooooooooooo. Not only he bite biggie after that the beat is bitin too. Shark Niggas 🦈

[@_The_King_1]

I remember when The Source had that section called Borrower and Lender

[@jenniferwilliam1332]

Hello My dear

[@_The_King_1]

@@jenniferwilliam1332 👋🏾

[@jenniferwilliam1332]

How is your day going over there??

[@jumentu9385]

0:35 Relax Hoffa! Jay-Z isn't gonna flag your show 😂

[@donaldharrison554]

Jay was definitely paying homage to Big and Pac even though Pac didn't like him . He's talked about honoring MCs who are no longer here putting the beef to rest

[@ray1411]

Jay didn’t only do it with Bigs lyrics.

[@massdagod]

Jay-Z was biting everybody’s lines.

[@VanitasTV]

I’ll never forget when he stole Gucci Mane’s flow and Rhyme pattern from Gorgeous on Forever Young. I was in high school when that drop and was like “damn Jay not you”

[@LI-Kai-74]

Rakim "you put my tape on pause & add some more to yours, & now you fig. your ready for the neighborhood chores"

[@TheEdub1]

Jay-Z was bitin. Even the pioneers like Melle Mel, Caz & Kool Moe Dee will tell u its bitin. U use another Mc's lyrics its bitin period!. Jay wasn't just using Biggie's lyrics. He was bitin off of Rakim, Kane, Slick Rick, Snoop and many others. Niggas on this platform are making excuses for Jay.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Nas bit Rakim too… I can quote it for you. And… Jay-Z in 2001 on Lyrical Exercise: “Trinidad of the game, know my way around your ring” Nas in 2021 on Meet Joe Black: “Rap Sugar Ray Robinson, know my way around the ring”

[@TheEdub1]

@@ArtisanWindchimes Nas is a biter too. He's bit Rakim many times. As well as Epmd, Kane, Krs, Slick Rick, Mc Shan, LL, Tragedy etc.

[@jman1562001]

​@@TheEdub1 Damn near everyone in the 90s has at least a line that can be considered BITING if we going to keep it 100

[@TheEdub1]

@@jman1562001 I agree

[@cb4gusto744]

You addressed biting very well 😭 rock is funny 😂

[@jenniferwilliam1332]

Hello My dear

[@Aluvsloans]

Jay Held it down for BIG 🐐 What the deal playboy, just rest your soul I be holding it down, yo, still love the dough Got these ladies on the cock now, you know how we go Got the whole world on lock down, you know how we flow Don't worry about Brooklyn, I continue to flame Therefore a world with amnesia won't forget your name You held it down long enough, let me take those reigns And just like your spirit the commission remains Niggas can cross the T's and, dots the I's Now that I got too popular to cop them pies I'm taking this rap shit serious, to my demise Jay shit's like cake mix, watch me rise Basics in the basement, wasted Asking my dog for advice and when he can't say shit My hatred is fueled just give me a sign And I let the world know that the city is mine, what?

[@kadafireed970]

Dope Asfc 💯

[@ricardomigu-elcerroali4779]

"And If I AIN'T BETTER THAN B.I.G., I'M THE CLOSEST ONE"- jay-z

[@penero1983]

Buddy wit the hoodie on speaking the real.

[@DStew-tc9zz]

Jay be bitting. And he took young chris flow

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Only song I hear Jay have a similar flow to Young Chris was in Excuse Me Miss, La La La and Nigga Please which features Young Chris.

[@hamzaheaven941]

Biting is biting and Hova is the biggest biter

[@cjd9978]

Jay been on top for so long he been waking up over 30 years hearing his name in random conversations.

[@jman1562001]

We know cause that "Ether" touched his and his supporters SOULS 20+ years to the day.

[@cjd9978]

@@jman1562001 Ether was cool but it’s overhyped people love to say Nas washed Jay overblown reaction. Nas with Eminem murder your on your own track, overblown. Jay been hated on since he scored Ain’t No N**** on the Nutty Professor soundtrack.

[@jman1562001]

@@cjd9978 I don't think it's hate, more like confused admiration. Plus when you the top dog everyone gunning for your spot.

[@cjd9978]

@@jman1562001 very good point. It’s like with Lebron everyone want to tear you down.

[@marcmoise3242]

So everyone going talk shit about him bitting, but no one is going say anything about the fact that he give royalties to biggies kids. That's a good look.

[@michaelyantakadatruth2925]

I wish I could be on this show on some of these episodes

[@GabbGames-Watch]

Tuff call to use a line verse bite a flow is two different things like sampling a song vs building one around a hook

[@JeromeGigante]

JAY Z IS A BITERRR!!!! , FACTS ARE FACTS , ALOT OF US REEAAL HIP HOP HEADS BEEN KNEW THIS!

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

If Jay Z was a biter then he would take someone’s whole and said the exact same way the other artist said. Im talking about taking a whole verse and not changing anything. That’s what biting is. Taking a line and flipping it is a lot different than taking someone’s whole verse and not changing anything. Jay will take a line and flip it and add his own lyrics to it.

[@jamalvines2133]

@@SoulOfTheSouth GROUPIE EVERYONE KNOW HE'S STOLE

[@JeromeGigante]

@@jamalvines2133 THANK YOU!! lol

[@postmastersgt1670]

@@SoulOfTheSouth dude stop cappin Jay z is a major biter he was exposed years ago for this.

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

@@postmastersgt1670 How im cappin and i just said that every legendary rapper has done it. He ain’t the only one. People just love him being guilty of everything. People will blame Jay Z on a lot of shit just because he’s the biggest artist.

[@imsofocused4678]

A lot of people say that Jay stole the whisper flow Young Chris but Nas did it first on the song "One Mic" which he took from Jungle.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

That was barely a flow. That was a song concept.

[@imsofocused4678]

@@ArtisanWindchimes Wrong that was a flow and song concept that Jay bit on Bleeks "Murda Murda" song. Nobody did that before Nas. Jay been stealing his whole career. He stole Camp Lo's "Feelin It", Ice T's "99 Problems" and the "All I Need" song from dudes in Philly.

[@MusicJunkiePlus]

If Jay-Z was really “paying homage”, why didn’t he tell a cool story about the rapper he looked up to in one of his songs instead of stealing their bars with no reference like he wrote it

[@malakhishabazz9886]

Actually...He Did...On The Blueprint 2 Album....On A Song Called "It Was All A Dream"

[@esseen100]

Why didn't he pay homage to other fallen rappers who looked out for him, like Big L??🤔

[@AlSmithCleanUpENT]

​@@malakhishabazz9886 they don't know. and they just explained Jay was helping biggi8family by getting paid off the publishing Also with the Tupac me and my girlfriend.

[@maroon_child.5344]

"Shout out to Big Poppa, Daddy Kane 👉🏾Heroes👈🏾"

[@Cslicksmusic91]

Listen to city is mine

[@ShaqTown]

This convo with all this Dusse around the room hilarious

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

🤣🤣🤣 Hov don't even bite Rhymes. He has paid homage to Biggie. He even said it himself in ironically the song What More Can I Say "I'm not a biter, I'm a writer for myself and others I say a B.I.G. verse, I'm only biggin' up my brother Biggin' up my borough, I'm big enough to do it I'm that thorough, plus I know my own flow is foolish"

[@xrayeblaquediamonds4440]

His "original flow" he's known for isn't his he bit off biggie multiple time not to mention some of his biggest songs, flows, and lyrics, he got from Sunny Cheeba from Camp Lo I got mad love and respect for Jay but he's done that too. He pays homage more than he takes but he still bites or takes from certain people

[@bigdshawn]

So is he paying homage to Jadakiss, Nas, Young Chris, Ect,,,

[@imperialstats]

keep it 💯 Jay wasn't always paying homage he doing some Brooklyn style take yo shit .. he was biting artist like ra the rugged man somebody most ppl ain't even heard of plus he bit Nas who he didn't like at the time as while as other artists I'ma Jay Z fan but keep it real don't Stan out so much you deny when they do something And act Like he Only bit Biggie Lines 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@xrayeblaquediamonds4440]

@@bigdshawn yup and the list as you said goes on. Pun, L, Sunny Cheeba (Camp Lo), AZ... And there's still more. 💯

[@MarlonMuzic]

lol he still biting

[@tonayamoQFS]

Turbo booster Motivation of LL COOL J 9:46

[@curtis75black]

Jadakiss on his solo debut “Uh Huuh” ft. DMX, his bars going at Beanie, the last line was from LL 14 years prior off THE BREAKTHROUGH on BIGGER AND DEFFER album. Was that Biting or Homage ?

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

No one will answer you about that

[@drayrose]

@@ArtisanWindchimes 🤣

[@ChrisNajdek]

Probably homage 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@clarkkent52]

that was biting but jada hardly ever does this..jay took whole flows and candace

[@IAmBrixx]

It’s not just the BIG lines,Jay was doing that with EVERYBODY’S lines Nas,Pac etc

[@sauditate4562]

Biteing Rhymes/Style got you fucked up in a cypher back in the day ...skraight up..😐🏎️🏁👀

[@jenniferwilliam1332]

Hello My dear

[@clc8435]

Man I can't way for this full podcast to drop!!!

[@49erNell]

I'm not Jay Z fan at all. Refuse to rock that black & white paper plane hat. I could be wrong, but I don't see Jay rocking other artist shit? We heard what LL & DMX (R.I.P.) said about Jay back in the day. That's the past & people can grow, but on some emcee shit, I've never considered Jay Z the best. On some Hip Hop emcee rules, how can you be the best & you're a biter? I also heard Wise Intelligent from Poor Righteous Teachers burned Jay in a battle in jersey yrs ago. Wise is a humble dude. Wise suggested it was in his favor because they were in his projects or his hood. That shit does happen. This is a dope ass channel too. Word. 💯

[@sugarsholivetrue6321]

Exactly, the GOAT don’t bite ANYONES lyrics regardless of the fake friendship they claim

[@Obi-UnoKenobi]

Snoop made biting cool when he did The Vapors. 2Pac use to bite Spice 1 lines too. He made a whole song around Spice 1's I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto line.

[@miggidymark]

jay z's biting is so intricate i remember looking into a source magazine and the theme was dirtiest sexual lyrics// and i kid you not there was a line i read made by a female rapper and WORD FOR WORD jay z said it on one of his biggest hits now its debateable on who said it first, but all anyone needs to do is check the dates

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

So check the dates then

[@miggidymark]

@@ArtisanWindchimes its hard to find passages from magazines in this digital era.....but its not even that big a deal to me, its just something i always remembered

[@micheleadamson9867]

LL is one of the greatest rappers, and I know that his new joint is going to be 🔥

[@irvgodey8795]

I guess everyone missed the part where Mr.Mecc said that the publishing went to Biggie's family every time Jaz-z recited one of Biggie's lines which is why he did it so much. SMH people hear what they want to though lol....

[@boomboombaby9140]

Facts, clearly he way paying homage

[@clarkkent52]

he still biting tho..

[@boomboombaby9140]

@@clarkkent52 not really , bitting is stealing someones bars and act as if it was your own . If that was the case when we say quotes we are bitting .

[@clarkkent52]

@@boomboombaby9140 jay been biting whole cadences and flows..def took his last popular cadence from chris and neef (young guns)..gtfoh j is a biter

[@sc239]

@@boomboombaby9140 Nah Jay Z attached himself to BIG to take the vacant spot left when Biggie died. he painted himself as BIGs successor and it worked. He "paid homage" and bought up Biggies name way to much, more than Puff, Lil Kim, Cease, Jadakiss and Mase COMBINED.

[@MoSHus]

You punched people in the face for them lines🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@griff9333]

Jay told y’all ....” I say a BIG verse I’m only big n up my Brother, Big n up my Borough, I’m that Thorough plus I know my own flow is FOOLISH “....Stop playin wit DA GOAT!!! 💪🏽💯

[@curtis75black]

After he was called out and crucified for the Bullshit though. That’s when he said it.

[@mayankingrevisited8815]

Nah

[@j2323j]

Cuz stop it Dude even bites from BG Cash money is a army better yet the navy

[@STAYBOMBINFLACKO]

2pac all I need in this life of sin is me and my gf … y’all need to respect the real 🐐

[@clarkkent52]

lol j bit from young guns, and philly

[@TallShawnNetwork]

Fam jay-z lyrics is off the chain regardless is the reason It aint biting,everybody knows its big rhymes thats not biting.Biting is when you steal something and pretend like its yours ,we all know its BIG lyrics.

[@MrWelchsTV]

He Said Big & Pac Lines Did He Sned Money To Pac Fam Too?? Son Eastcoast Ninjas Know He Was Biting way to much & DMX Rip Was The King Of NY Before Jay Got Where He Is Now. First 3 X Albums Those Was His Years His Summers🤷🏾‍♂️

[@antarticp7477]

i didnt even know math had a frank stand he pulled his jayz graffitii frank stand out with record timing lmao !

[@KobaniacMinded]

Bruh I was 2 when biggie died I swore jay invented the "take your pick tyson, jackson, Jordan game 6" line it was so mind blowing... just to see big said it first when I started digging in the crates.

[@curtis75black]

Exactly !!! And that’s what I was saying earlier !! If you was not there, you would not know !!!

[@KobaniacMinded]

@@curtis75black bro then he took pac song the "Bonnie and Clyde" with Beyonce again I was 2 when big died I was in the womb when pac died, I thought that was his song too

[@curtis75black]

@@KobaniacMinded I feel you. I knew where he got that from but he was coming into his own. One of the biggest emcees out of New York, got with Beyoncé, no one was gonna call him out unless they didn’t give a fuck (Prodigy or NAS)

[@KobaniacMinded]

@@curtis75black facts

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

CamRon used that line as well

[@TheVashCross]

Math finna hit a million subs by the end of the year

[@Axiohm000]

Jay made a whole career off biting flows etc.

[@MIXPRO68]

AND IT WASNT 5 YEARS AFTER BIG DIED WHEN JAY-Z DID THE I JUST WANNA LOVE YOU SONG WHEN HE QUOTED THE BIGGIE LINE.THAT SONG DROPPED IN 2000.BIG DIED IN 1997 SO 3 YEARS WAS STILL FRESH IN ALOT OF PEOPLE'S MIND AFTER BIG PASSED.THE ERA OF RAP I GREW UP IN(MELLE MEL AND ON),THEY DIDNT RECITE OTHERS PEOPLE'S RHYMES OR LINES IN THEIR SONGS AS "HOMAGE".IT WASNT DONE BECAUSE THE COMPETITION WAS HIGH BETWEEN RAPPERS/MCS AND IF U DID RECITE A PEROSN'S LINE,IT IS WHAT IT IS(BITING).

[@keembo08]

Jay paying homage to BIG is cool, but that also gave him an excuse to do it over and over again. Once is cool, maybe twice, but he did it so often and that wasn’t necessary imo.

[@KobaniacMinded]

Bruh I was 2 when biggie died I swore jay invented the "take your pick tyson, jackson, Jordan game 6" line it was so mind blowing... just to see big said it first when I started digging in the crates.

[@PTO_Finesse]

@@KobaniacMinded wtffff 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ BIG was way ahead wtf

[@Drillah]

@@KobaniacMinded others have used that phrase / rhyme scheme

[@KobaniacMinded]

@@PTO_Finesse I was 2 when he died I didn't know until I got older and went back to listen to classics

[@KobaniacMinded]

@@Drillah not before biggie

[@livingproof78]

how no one sitting in that room knows what the first boogie down production album is

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in The Building !!!

[@adnanojd]

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