Did Luigi Mangione Have TRAUMA We Don’t Know About?

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@buzby303
@buzby303 Ай бұрын
He can’t elaborate We don’t need to know anything else Who cares He’s not blabbing his mouth off it’s as simple as that !
@buzby303
@buzby303 Ай бұрын
There’s some filth that work in the so called ‘healthcare system’ in the u.k & no doubt it’s the same out there There also is an agenda out there to dumb us down & degenerate society (NOT a conspiracy THEORY btw - it’s in full swing !)
@Novusod
@Novusod Ай бұрын
He had an emotional disturbance called "affluenceza."
@albertmarnell9976
@albertmarnell9976 Ай бұрын
Luigi Mangione makes The Mona Lisa look like a number painting. However, I believe that he has a serious personality disorder.
@hopesy12u4
@hopesy12u4 Ай бұрын
Kindly keep in mind the replication crisis, especially in psychology. The studies that back up some of the arguments that back up "Your Body Keeps the Score" could not be replicated.
@crashnova7601
@crashnova7601 Ай бұрын
We might not all go through the same situations but we all will inherit the trauma of our "healthcare" system if things don't change.
@leekestner1554
@leekestner1554 Ай бұрын
Amen!
@maygrantz4426
@maygrantz4426 Ай бұрын
correct..
@j.7701
@j.7701 Ай бұрын
Its been the same way for decades but some coward shoots a ceo in the back and now hes a hero and now we should pay attention? You had no idea who that ceo was before or luigi, that ceo was replaced by another ceo before he hit the pavement.
@crashnova7601
@crashnova7601 Ай бұрын
Solidarity
@UFOpilot.
@UFOpilot. 25 күн бұрын
@@crashnova7601 i blame voters and their elected leaders, law and justice for not having done anything about corrupt/malicious business strategies that inflict the "TRAUMA" on humanity. PEACE.
@BurroGirl
@BurroGirl Ай бұрын
The guy is way WAY smart and way WAY insightful. He also gives a sh!t about other people. I hope that in some way, some how his brilliant insights about society, tech, trauma, health care etc don't go to waste in a prison cell. It would be a horrible loss for ALL of us.
@freeluigi4444
@freeluigi4444 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, a great deal of empathy usually develops as a defensive mechanism in narcissistic families
@Clintsessentials
@Clintsessentials Ай бұрын
Fr!!!
@Czarina888777
@Czarina888777 Ай бұрын
This is my fear.
@BurroGirl
@BurroGirl Ай бұрын
@@freeluigi4444 can you explain that further? It is very interesting to me. I know what empathy and what narcissism is. Do you mean a family member who is not narcissistic develops intense empathy as a defensive mechanism against narcissistic family members?
@kathleenroberts6931
@kathleenroberts6931 Ай бұрын
​@@freeluigi4444Unfortunately? Fortunately, there are people who have empathy, no matter their childhood experiences. ✌
@samebranchmedia4523
@samebranchmedia4523 Ай бұрын
8:49 I'm a trauma therapist, and yes, the body does keep the score. No one wants to talk about generational trauma , it would mean we would have to change how we treat children. Read the ACE study done by Kaiser and the CDC released in 1998.
@BurroGirl
@BurroGirl Ай бұрын
I'm a veterinarian and even my field is researching and acknowledging what trauma - physical or mental - does to the fetus and to behavior. It is real!
@willowbeederouaux4750
@willowbeederouaux4750 Ай бұрын
I have CPTSD and imho the body def keeps the score. I am plagued by physical and mental health issues and most of these issues are caused by decades of stress and the effects of stress on my body. Ffs, we know that many people like me with autoimmune diseases have a history of trauma. It is very frustrating to hear people discount this theory as pseudoscience. It invalidates my experience of abuse/neglect and childhood trauma in general.
@alveolus2854
@alveolus2854 Ай бұрын
Sadly the gap between good research being published, and it being put to beneficial use, is in multiples of 20 years. The newspapers go crazy about the "amazing new findings", a couple of years later it gathers dust on the shelves, the researchers move on to other fields or retire, and then someone repeats the finding with little or no reference to the previous work (who wants to reference old stuff?) and the cycle repeats itself. This is inexcusable. We do have answers to so many health problems, but the current system doesn't want to hear them. I'm old enough to have watched some of these cycles taking place.
@savanahsmiles
@savanahsmiles Ай бұрын
Exactly, no one wants to look at the way we treat children so ignore the evidence of the cumulative effects of trauma passed down in families
@HeyLucyLou007
@HeyLucyLou007 Ай бұрын
@@samebranchmedia4523 If you can find my comment in this thread, please don’t be triggered, it’s my POV. IMO, this is a very thin line we need to be very careful crossing. I am not saying trauma doesn’t exist. I have been an advocate for addressing MANY things in public schools because I have worked in a state position and have SEEN THE NEED! I received IMMENSE pushback and wasn’t even listened to. No one wants to TOUCH trauma, racism, or, or, or… These things CAN be talked about appropriately without being TAUGHT/ingrained. Like almost *all* things, prevention, prevention, prevention. Recognizing and getting in front of it as much as possible WITHOUT tearing apart the family unit. But, for whatever reason, nobody wants to discuss PREVENTION! We seem to enjoy reacting instead of being pro-active. And here we are.
@rossqm369
@rossqm369 Ай бұрын
what they did to his spine is major trauma that s no secret
@possumofantikka8160
@possumofantikka8160 Ай бұрын
the medical system specifically targets pain patients or chronic injury patients deliberately right now. they ruin a lot of lives like they did his with messed up surgeries and probably lack of pain management. its about money not care even for someone with some amount of resources.. that just says everything. and all these systems act the same. more and more.
@j1407bmoon
@j1407bmoon Ай бұрын
That journalist said that Luigi didn't seem to have any spinal or mental issues. According to Luigi's own social media post his back is fine now.
@raptureready5004
@raptureready5004 Ай бұрын
@@j1407bmoon I really don't think so. He had a botched surgery. He had lots of pain.
@tonis8131
@tonis8131 Ай бұрын
@@j1407bmoon I read an older subreddit conversation among posters who have his condition. One of them had surgery. Although his back is better, he still has to be careful and avoid certain types of physical activity or it will still cause him a lot of pain. So, it sounded like the surgery restores your ability to have a normal enough life but you're still restricted in ways. So, anyway, what was interesting, too, about this conversation (which predates Luigi by years so it's not influenced by his case), was that they were discussing whether or not bike riding was ok, bad, or good for your back if you had this kind of condition. And what was striking especially for the person who had Luigi's type of surgery was that biking is good only if you're leaning forward with your weight on your arms. If you're on an upright bike, however, or leaning back with your weight on your spine, even though he had the surgery, he said it would cause him a lot of pain. This was very striking to me because the suspect rides away on an upright bike with a backpack, to boot, meaning the weight was on their spine. And it seems this would not be something Luigi could do safely even if he's very fit in general. And the suspect has to be biking very fast too in this upright position.
@lLushKitty
@lLushKitty Ай бұрын
I'd like to also add that because of his issues, according to his mates, Luigi has a difficult time with intimacy. I have great empathy for him. He should NOT feel inadequate or ashamed for a situation that he has zero control over.
@brittvaughn9447
@brittvaughn9447 Ай бұрын
Doctor of Physical Therapy here. It's not pseudoscience, it's actual science. There's a reason all of us healthcare professionals are on here correcting this misinformation.
@patnaidoo809
@patnaidoo809 Ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more.
@CharlieBoy360
@CharlieBoy360 Ай бұрын
For proof look no further than Native American tribes. You can see the pain and look in their eyes. Almost like their very soul has been splintered. By far the most brutalized people in N. America. Not saying all N.A. have this but I have met many more who have than have not.
@Sunny-fx1
@Sunny-fx1 Ай бұрын
Yes and no! It's necessary to seperate intergenerational trauma on an emotionel level from directly inherited trauma on an epigenetic level, since the latter has shown to only exist in "daughter cells",- meaning in the direct clones of the original cell induced during the clonal expansion aka cell divisions...
@MauraCole-c5l
@MauraCole-c5l Ай бұрын
@@brittvaughn9447 We need more ACADEMICS, DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS, RESEARCHERS, THERAPISTS, using SOCIAL MEDIA to help clarify and educate positively the disinformation and those who have not had access to experiences, information and language to help them better understand this very complex, fast changing world.
@kilvapkram4302
@kilvapkram4302 Ай бұрын
"Doctor of physical therapy"?????? My wife had stroke,...I can buy tennis ball for her to squeeze for $1.00 at flea market,...or pay you $1,200 for tennis ball therapy? Tell all of us your take home pay for year?????? Ceskoslovenska.
@Artsy1621
@Artsy1621 Ай бұрын
Intergenerational trauma is not bogus. There is considerable research on the subject. It’s very real.
@meribelgoldwin
@meribelgoldwin Ай бұрын
Yep. Intergenerational trauma is very real. Gurwinder seems to be someone who is highly biased and uses research to bolster his biases. Also, to publicly share details of a private session with a client is deplorable, whether he's a therapist or any consultant. That is just horrible business practice all around. Disgusting. He's just using this as a way to bolster his business awareness, not realizing that he's telling on himself and his poor business practices.
@ManubibiWalsh
@ManubibiWalsh Ай бұрын
Yeah. This is actually proven if you consider the neurological research done on Holocaust survivors. That trauma literally changed their DNA. And who knows how much 75 years of constant genocide have already changed Palestinians’ DNA.
@Olivetree00
@Olivetree00 Ай бұрын
🎯 Look at the descendants of enslaved families. Trauma IS absolutely passed down.
@hermesmcclintok
@hermesmcclintok Ай бұрын
@@Olivetree00 blks were successful prior to the civil rights movement contradicting your statement. They were up, and they brought themselves down. History
@hermesmcclintok
@hermesmcclintok Ай бұрын
@@Olivetree00 blks were successful prior to the civil rights movement contradicting your statement. There were entire decades and generations between those two things.
@1May1312
@1May1312 Ай бұрын
Gabor Maté once made a very compelling case for intergenerational trauma, speaking as someone who was born in Hungary during the Holocaust. And on the NPC subject, Luigi is spot-on because it's already happening here. Look at what happened just this week on the NYC subway. A woman was on fire, but 2 cops just passed by, one even looking at her as he passed, and everyone else opted to video the scene for social media engagement! Why didn't anyone at least call for help, let alone try to smother the flames with a coat or something? She could have survived if anyone in the vicinity had a shred of humanity.
@Shalalalala_666
@Shalalalala_666 Ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m ashamed to call myself a New Yorker. Luigi was completely on point when he was talking about NPCs. It’s like we’re living in some f’ed up video game.
@rolandnelson6722
@rolandnelson6722 Ай бұрын
Therein lies the paradox. KLiugi cares others, he now relies of a jury that cares about others. This is an anthropological bet, the stakes are his freedom. If the jury can't help him how, he would have lived in a box - a box of oth3r peoplemindiffern - for the rest of his life anyway.
@minttea1966
@minttea1966 Ай бұрын
It's the Penney effect. Go figure........
@s.d.9543
@s.d.9543 Ай бұрын
No. The two cops helped as soon as they saw what was happening. There was no one else around. No other passengers were on the train early in the morning on a Sunday.
@catherinesydney
@catherinesydney Ай бұрын
@@Shalalalala_666maybe humanity will always be a stupid game. Code is baked in.
@leav388
@leav388 Ай бұрын
Epigenetics is NOT "pseudo-scientific." DNA methylation is strongly impacted by environmental influences. (eg, See geneticist Nessa Crey). Actual genetic impacts from trauma can go on for generations. This has been understood for over a decade now by geneticists. Epigenetics is a system sitting on top of DNA which turns genes on and off depending on environment, trauma, etc. I don't know how this "journalist" can ignorantly opine about this. Luigi was right.
@user-gu9yq5sj7c
@user-gu9yq5sj7c Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Gurwinder and Jordan weren't saying epigenetics was pseudo science, but said that "Luigi believed in a twisted pseudo like version of it".
@vestasunfire
@vestasunfire Ай бұрын
Luigi is Sicilian. His grandparents are not just Italians, but Sicilians. If you look at him throught the lens of his family sicilian genes, family history, and sicilian cultural background. Sicilians are known to be very hot blooded, they don't tolerate disrespect or abuse, and more importantly they have centuries, if not millenia history of taking matters into their own hands when justice and authorities failed them. It is Called "Regalia" --- etymology means "Gift from a king", but also "Fit for a king". This is a case study in epigenetic and family culture.
@vestasunfire
@vestasunfire Ай бұрын
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c Honestly that irritated me when this know it all called it pseudo science. Also what the healthcare companies do to society is collective trauma. It is trauma to see people die and suffer and end up in financial ruin like this, but we numb ourselves to the pain.
@nerdybucky
@nerdybucky Ай бұрын
Luigi was interested in a wide range of topics (just check out his Goodreads lists). He also happened to have an interest in psychological and intergenerational trauma-go figure. But now they’re fixated on this one subject and are trying to paint him as a nutcase.
@RowenaSnow-px3jg
@RowenaSnow-px3jg Ай бұрын
Epigenetics is a relatively new field but definitely legit. It influences gene expression. It is more malleable than the "standard" genetics and therefore helps organisms adapt to and survive short-term changes in the environment.
@Eatone-om7kj
@Eatone-om7kj Ай бұрын
7:00 if that journalist is attempting to discredit both Luigi and The Body Keeps Score, i now believe The Body Keeps Score
@meribelgoldwin
@meribelgoldwin Ай бұрын
Lol. He's not a journalist. He's a self-serving fool.
@price3216
@price3216 Ай бұрын
What a way to tried and twist something. He compared it too generational wealth, when is generational wealth accumulation tied to epigenetics? You don’t accumulate money through genetics so what exactly did that journalist think he meant? It’s almost as if the comparison was intentional trying to discredit what Luigi is saying trying to frame him as crazy
@Cruznick06
@Cruznick06 Ай бұрын
​@@price3216generational wealth could definitely impact stress levels and health outcomes, which then impact epigenetics. Plain old guaranteed access to food/shelter and health treatment makes a difference. The wealthy also don't have the same risks to their safety/health that someone say working on a meatpacking line would experience. Mental problems due to abuse and refusal to stop repeating past generations mistakes also absolutely can compound and have negative epigenetic outcomes.
@dustinjones8887
@dustinjones8887 Ай бұрын
He went on CNN. nuff said
@RealRougarou
@RealRougarou Ай бұрын
​@@price3216I would venture to say he's trying to use an analogy. The money/trauma is passed down from generation to generation. It transfers from one to the next, and so on. He's saying they're similar in that one aspect. The author shows his incompetence. Epigenetics is not about trauma being located in the genes. It's that certain genes give people certain predispositions (not predeterminations outside of a handful of rare genetic disorders) that can be activated or suppressed from the external environment. It's about the symbiotic relationship between nature and nurture.
@deborahlukovich8006
@deborahlukovich8006 Ай бұрын
Our body does store our trauma. It’s pretty obvious the connection between body and mind and emotions. Capitalists don’t want you to know this.
@visceratrocar
@visceratrocar Ай бұрын
Not sure what capitalism has to do with it.
@barbie6695
@barbie6695 Ай бұрын
“The Body keeps the Score..”
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 Ай бұрын
​@@visceratrocarCapitalists don't want you to know that ducks are free
@dshesser
@dshesser Ай бұрын
@@visceratrocarwake up, profit… that’s all they think about not time for any other type of thought wake up get it done that’s what I’m “supposed to do”
@TheAwesomes2104
@TheAwesomes2104 Ай бұрын
​@@visceratrocarcapitalists want you to think your emotional issues are a personal moral failing, not the natural reaction to our abysmal state of life under the current system. If you have trauma, they want to sell you expensive drugs and therapy to make you numb and docile to what they are doing to you, so that you'll go back to work and accept any negative consequences from it as your own fault. They don't want you to know that all this BS is connected. They don't want us to put the dots together and see the bigger pictures.
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 Ай бұрын
Everyone experiences the trauma of the healthcare system and will continue if we don’t change
@Clintsessentials
@Clintsessentials Ай бұрын
Yep.
@visceratrocar
@visceratrocar Ай бұрын
It will never change. ESPECIALLY not under Trump.
@maygrantz4426
@maygrantz4426 Ай бұрын
@@Clintsessentials absolutely..
@Javas_Dream
@Javas_Dream Ай бұрын
Yes, our Healthcare system, and the Healthcare Insurance Industry needs many changes. It would need to be a bi-partisan decision that would need to work together to pass any legislation for changes.
@maygrantz4426
@maygrantz4426 Ай бұрын
exactly..
@The_Tiffster
@The_Tiffster Ай бұрын
The connection between physical trauma and emotional trauma is not "thin"; during brain scans, doctors cannot tell the difference between physical and emotional pain... the brain responds identically.
@MauraCole-c5l
@MauraCole-c5l Ай бұрын
At the CELLULAR LEVEL we are designed to be highly sensitive through every physiological system to our natural environment and predators to preserve our survival. Trauma of any kind, physical or psychological is probably transcribed the same because it still elevates a threat to our human systems.
@The_Tiffster
@The_Tiffster Ай бұрын
@MauraCole-c5l : While physical trauma can be directly inflicted by predators or the external environment, psychological trauma is inflicted by our own response to a perceived threat...so in that way, they are different.
@MauraCole-c5l
@MauraCole-c5l Ай бұрын
@ I don’t quite agree. If I am understanding you, you are trying to distinguish between VOLUNTARY and INVOLUNTARY physiological sensory responses. Humans have great difficulty cognitively distinguishing how our brains 🧠 “unconsciously” sense most input from our environment. People assume their behaviors are moreso controlled by their own choices. They don’t realize the complexity of interactional, on-going, multi-sensory input processing that influences their decisions and behaviors. For example: it is known that the majority of communication is NON-VERBAL. We read people’s body language and then compare the words/sounds/tone of voice with their physical actions. Our brains compare this to our historical experiences with others in our brains, without any conscious awareness of these neurological processes. Emotional Trauma/PTSD in its various forms, related situationally, also has complex involuntary, unconscious, neurological and physiological processes.
@jd88080
@jd88080 Ай бұрын
​@@barbie6695Beg to differ, don't think he's misunderstanding. "By our own response" is ambiguous. Is this vol or invol, and how much we think of as vol is actually invol, or invol based, etc Explanations don't harm
@jd88080
@jd88080 Ай бұрын
@@barbie6695 yeah, but he did qualify that "disagreement" with if I am understanding you, didnt he? He's clarifying, not misunderstanding, or he found (like me) "by our own response" unclear, and unclear statements could cause misunderstandings.
@geoffstockton
@geoffstockton Ай бұрын
Dude, there’s PLENTY of physical abuse in wealthy families. I didn’t grow up wealthy but I grew up in a wealthy town. In high school (once I had made friends with some of the rich kids) I saw some harrowing shit going on in extremely wealthy homes. As a young adult, a music teaching coworker of mine showed up everyday for some time with a face looking like bloody grown beef. We were all initially thinking that it was an abusive boyfriend situation but it eventually came out that it was her father (a very wealthy doctor) beating her down with the force you’d use to go at a full grown man. No charges were ever pressed.
@barbie6695
@barbie6695 Ай бұрын
@@geoffstockton Definitely 💯
@maygrantz4426
@maygrantz4426 Ай бұрын
What sadistic ?
@RowenaSnow-px3jg
@RowenaSnow-px3jg Ай бұрын
Yikes. I feel bad for her.
@cynthiajasso7210
@cynthiajasso7210 Ай бұрын
Omg so sad for that girl 😢
@RowenaSnow-px3jg
@RowenaSnow-px3jg Ай бұрын
@@geoffstockton yes fewer people would challenge anusive rich people... more dangerous than abusi w poors
@wasabiginger6993
@wasabiginger6993 Ай бұрын
Note ... parents whom have been abusive immediately forget that they were abusive, therefore, always in denial around how they ruined their children's lives.
@fleshytrash
@fleshytrash Ай бұрын
Ong
@gretaholmes783
@gretaholmes783 Ай бұрын
So even if she is/was a kind parent, Your interpretation says she’s guilty if she admits it and she’s guilty if she says she didn’t she denies it?? “SURE SIGN OF ABUSE. Stop🛑Adding to his parents’ current grief.
@incoherent-marbles
@incoherent-marbles Ай бұрын
​@@gretaholmes783they did not say that. What they're saying is that abusive parents always deny it. So if his parents ever say that they weren't abusive, that does not mean they're correct since they wouldn't admit it if they were. But good parents who don't abuse their kids will also say they they did not do so. Basically you just can't take the parents' word for it if they discuss that topic.
@charlottewilliams7866
@charlottewilliams7866 Ай бұрын
I don't know if your statement is always true but my daughter-in-law told me that I'm the only one of six grandparents who is actually welcome to visit anytime because I'm the only one of the six who has ever acknowledged and apologized for my less than stellar parenting. Bittersweet but I am glad I could and did make those acknowledgments and apologies and am welcome in my grandchildren's lives.❤ Walking a bumpy road to consciousness and love.
@mnemosynevermont5524
@mnemosynevermont5524 Ай бұрын
@@gretaholmes783 BELIEVE THE KIDS
@kathrynpassmore5425
@kathrynpassmore5425 Ай бұрын
Bingo. This is the very FIRST reference to what I have thought from the beginning. I believe that Luigi is NOT like his family and sees right through them. And therefore is a RISK to them. Luigi FEELS for others. His family’s success was/is built on NOT FEELING for others because that is where the power and money comes from. THEY are responsible for what happened. They set him up either by framing him, which even to me sounds a bit implausible due to the ‘preponderance of evidence’ (so neatly packaged) but still not out of the realm of possibility, or through mind control of some kind. His ‘so concerned’ mother waited over 4 months to report him missing (only a couple weeks prior to the murder?) which sounds fishy, as well as the other friends and family who reached out to him ‘at the end’. Also fishy. Not the first mafia family to ‘sacrifice’ one of their ‘own’ to protect themselves
@alexandrac9536
@alexandrac9536 Ай бұрын
Good points.. poor Luigi😢
@spacegirls16
@spacegirls16 Ай бұрын
Yeah his family never showed up so far, and from what I read he seems to distance himself with them and there are books in his goodreads that implied this as well, he was reading a book related to emotionally unavailaible parents
@Sofia-bd3ej
@Sofia-bd3ej Ай бұрын
That is so sad . You probably right! He needs family support now. Are they there to support this special brilliant joung man ?
@BurroGirl
@BurroGirl Ай бұрын
Intergenerational trauma via epigenetics as well as changes in brain development intrauterine is TRUE.
@Enderrock424
@Enderrock424 Ай бұрын
what is this journalist talking about, inter generational trauma is well researched and the ideas in the body keeps the score are well documented, PTSD is literally a part of this exact phenomenon
@GrandmaRose9000
@GrandmaRose9000 Ай бұрын
PTSD isn't inherited. It develops after experiencing trauma. It is literally in the name of the disorder.
@Enderrock424
@Enderrock424 Ай бұрын
@yes i was drawing a comparison to the theory included in Body Keeps the Score and how emotional trauma can cause physical reactions, i did not word it the best tho
@GrandmaRose9000
@GrandmaRose9000 Ай бұрын
Emotional trauma does cause physical reactions. However, trauma is experienced, not inherited. PTSD only develops after one experiences trauma. No one is born with PTSD.
@Enderrock424
@Enderrock424 Ай бұрын
@ but that’s not exactly what intergenerational trauma is, it’s the study of the ways that families and bloodlines, not by genetics but experience, can pass down trauma. that’s also what body keeps the score is about, and also what Luigi was talking about. The only person to mention genetics was the journalist who interviewed him.
@ShineOnBenevolentSun
@ShineOnBenevolentSun Ай бұрын
I am experiencing sleeplessness due to a pinched nerve bundle in my cervical spine. When it's worst, I am waking up every hour on the hour in screaming pain. The US military concluded that it was torture and could make a person literally crazy to wake them that often, regardless of the accompanying pain. If he was experiencing similar pain and sleeplessness, I would accept a defense of temporary insanity.
@user-gu9yq5sj7c
@user-gu9yq5sj7c Ай бұрын
I hope you heal and get help. I would say you're disabled and you shouldn't be forced to work. You should just focus on healing. Thank you for sharing because some people claimed Luigi was lying about pain because he rode a bike. That's ableist and ignorant. People should watch Adam Conover on technoableism. The disabled woman there said there are different times disabled people are more capable. It isn't always the same. But when some ignorant people saw that disabled people were more capable at different times they accused them of lying about having a disability. The woman also talked about other discrimination against disabled people. We need people to testify that even if they have back pain sometimes they can still ride a bike too.
@victoriao1828
@victoriao1828 Ай бұрын
Exactly it's torture. Healthcare for profit has to stop ‼️
@freeluigi4444
@freeluigi4444 Ай бұрын
I would give anything to be his therapist once he is released… He is very similar to so many of my clients… Although none of my current clients have ever killed somebody outside of the military… Yes I deal with military PTSD. But my specialty is recovery from narcissist abuse and I hope he gets a really good therapist to help him recover
@kateoneal4215
@kateoneal4215 Ай бұрын
Yet many of us don't feel he's unbalanced. He took a courageous step toward drawing attention to a systemic crime in the "healthcare" industry-- and it worked. Every noble cause has martyrs. Many are committed and very sane.
@visceratrocar
@visceratrocar Ай бұрын
Released?
@visceratrocar
@visceratrocar Ай бұрын
​@kateoneal4215 Everyone is presuming the motive. As of right now the public has no idea why he did it.
@marilynschmidt6400
@marilynschmidt6400 Ай бұрын
​@@visceratrocar How many others are released after doing time? He murdered 1 person. It's not like he took out a class room of children, his own family or innocent bystanders
@maygrantz4426
@maygrantz4426 Ай бұрын
Hi,Aiki Dragon and I'm sorry of what you went through and most lawyer are for money and they will not take your case because you could not pay. Did you try Morgan and Morgan? Don't hesitate to share your experience and ask them that you need a help and you can sent a personal letter to John Morgan and I believe you have a case.Please, don't give up!
@Kit-se3zs
@Kit-se3zs Ай бұрын
17:37 I rewatched Michael Moore's Sicko tonight after many years. In the scene where he's sitting at a table with fellow Americans in France, a woman says "In France, the government is afraid of the people. In the US the people are afraid of the government." That's an observation Americans urgently need to recognize and change. Children and adults have been brainwashed for decades to be helpless and afraid of our government pretty much exclusively by the Republican Party. Most notably by Reagan with his whole "be very afraid if someone says to you 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'" speech. Ever since, elected GOP politicians puff out their chests and exclaim they will protect us from the government. Meanwhile THEY make the laws that strip us of more money and more freedoms--because that's what their corporate bosses want.
@dosdeyamaguchi9675
@dosdeyamaguchi9675 Ай бұрын
there are some telltale signs there already, for an instance, the family has never came out publicly to support their son/brother/nephew/cousin/grandson etc
@JeniferDixon-f6g
@JeniferDixon-f6g Ай бұрын
And, that says so much!
@jamato8461
@jamato8461 Ай бұрын
His mother after hearing of the crime saud it sounds like something my son would do. What mother does this?
@MariePriss
@MariePriss Ай бұрын
@@jamato8461 Right ? Why would she say that ? Even if it’s true, like lady he’s still your son. Where’s the love and support ?
@JeniferDixon-f6g
@JeniferDixon-f6g Ай бұрын
@@jamato8461 Not a loving mother.
@ColoradoMntn1222
@ColoradoMntn1222 Ай бұрын
His mom said she could see him doing something “like this” that doesn’t seem like something a mother would say except if things were not great between them. He may have already been scapegoated by his family.
@fatnano
@fatnano Ай бұрын
She probably said that due to discussions that were brought up during dinner. His family are very close according to Luigi’s friends. They’re just keeping shut as to not jeopardize this case further.
@fatnano
@fatnano Ай бұрын
His family also retained the best lawyer in this country so…
@ColoradoMntn1222
@ColoradoMntn1222 Ай бұрын
I hope it was his immediate family, for his sake. I guess his hatred for the healthcare industry and profits at the expense of patients just seems like it could have gone against his parents’ way of life. Maybe it all went smoothly, but then again, it just seems unlikely.
@bastetowl3258
@bastetowl3258 Ай бұрын
he might not like his family business
@lisashapiro4714
@lisashapiro4714 Ай бұрын
Maybe they are bad moms. Like norma jean Shapiro. She'd done bad things to us kids brutal ,and tell everyone that we were liars. Never listen to them so yeah mothers lie and stain to cover up these betrayers
@SusanKing-v3k
@SusanKing-v3k Ай бұрын
Luigi really hits home about the brain washing ( I can't talk about the Japenese ,haven't had that experience) but people are getting less empathic and that is dangerous to humanity !
@maygrantz4426
@maygrantz4426 Ай бұрын
correct..
@katfayegarrett3872
@katfayegarrett3872 Ай бұрын
100% agree about generational trauma. It is literally killing mankind.
@chrysanthemumfan214
@chrysanthemumfan214 Ай бұрын
Thanks for a really interesting piece of input into this whole thing! VERY small note: an Italian-American created a TikTok video to correct us all on the pronunciation of Luigi’s surname. He says it’s “Man-JOH-nay”. Said slowly, it’s “Man-gee-OH-nay”. The “gio” can be said slowly, as in “Gee-oh-VAH-nee” (Giovanni), or “Jo-VAH-nee”. But, the not-optional part is the final syllable, which is pronounced as “nay”. “E” in Italian doesn’t sound like “e” in English, as in, “ee”. It’s kind of like the pasta, “penne”. We say “PEN-nay”, rather than “PEN-nee”. Most American newscasts have been mispronouncing it. It’s just a small thing. But, saying it correctly is part of respecting the different ethnicities that co-dwell together in our land!
@AnthonyMorris-e3c
@AnthonyMorris-e3c Ай бұрын
I prefer to say it the slow way, 😊 Italian in general has a pleasant rhythm to it.
@jillyrose
@jillyrose Ай бұрын
Beautiful!
@Agape.23
@Agape.23 Ай бұрын
Yes I did figure the penne as well.
@xfreja
@xfreja Ай бұрын
it’s more like man-joh-neh, all very soft and with stress on the second syllable
@xfreja
@xfreja Ай бұрын
mangiare in italian means to eat, and it’s pronounced as something like man-jah-reh (i can’t really spell out how the “gia” is pronounced tbh, it’s basically just “if you know then you know”), so mangione would never be “man-gee-o-neh
@Jerry-k4n
@Jerry-k4n Ай бұрын
GOD BLESS LUIGI
@JohnGay-l2z
@JohnGay-l2z Ай бұрын
You're obviously talking about the god of the world, Lucifer. The living and loving God, Jesus, would never bless Luigi for his callous murderous act.
@Rich-eg6qb
@Rich-eg6qb Ай бұрын
I don't think God looks favorably on a back shooter. He killed a man, wake up.
@everythingmatters6308
@everythingmatters6308 Ай бұрын
​@@JohnGay-l2zHe stopped a serial murderer. Don't be too sure.
@JohnGay-l2z
@JohnGay-l2z Ай бұрын
Serial murderer? You need help.
@Jerry-k4n
@Jerry-k4n Ай бұрын
@ He killed every day. You have a problem with fact.
@MauraCole-c5l
@MauraCole-c5l Ай бұрын
I wrote at length yesterday about Luigi’s possible TRAUMA/ PTSD on a KZbin post. I have extensive professional experience as a previous Mental Health professional and also a Disabled person who has experienced both sides of the TRAUMA SYSTEM life and medical, and mental health systems over 40 years, internationally. I basically wrote, a young healthy, high intellectual and physical man, raised in a privileged lifestyle, will “GO INTO SHOCK” at his young age, when he is faced with the loss of his physical abilities. It is a natural “SELF-PROTECTION” reaction at conscious and unconscious level. It can take YEARS to readjust psychologically your life views with professional therapy to adapt to how your life will be LIMITED by CHRONIC PAIN, needing medical interventions all your life, physical therapy and no longer “being able to SURF”, which he expressed was important to him. Military servicemen are conditioned to prepare for these kinds of physical losses before seeing combat, but CIVILIANS have no psychological preparation for these kinds of PTSD TRAUMAS which do change the brain and body chemistry.
@ShineOnBenevolentSun
@ShineOnBenevolentSun Ай бұрын
The military also prepares soldiers for the kind of crazy-making sleeplessness that chronic pain can cause.
@Salina-qd6es
@Salina-qd6es Ай бұрын
Wow would luv to read psych evals on him. More importantly who/what team is administering, what/which evals being used & hired by whom?
@marybranning8392
@marybranning8392 Ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@Shalalalala_666
@Shalalalala_666 Ай бұрын
I completely understand this. I don’t suffer from chronic pain but I’m a young adult and I’ve been seriously screwed over by big pharma. When I was a minor, I was forced onto really strong psych meds and it’s left me with permanent irreversible health issues. Because of this, I can never feel pleasure again or have a decent memory. I completely understand the vindictiveness. Nobody prepared me for this nightmare and I think it’s terribly dishonest how people profited off of my suffering by telling me that I’ll be helped. This traumatized me. I’m proud of Luigi and I’ll never be ashamed to say that.
@MauraCole-c5l
@MauraCole-c5l Ай бұрын
@ I have great empathy for youth and worked as a Counselor/ Case Manager in school, family visits, psychiatric hospitals and residential programs. Psychiatry has been “experimental” and I have been MISDIAGNOSED and ABUSED myself, being put in horrific situations of trauma and being given medication against my will. Now, medical advancement are NOT SEPARATING the BRAIN and THE BODY, as they did with Psychiatric( Mental Health) and the Medical Physiology of how our human systems MUST interact. Our FINANCIAL HOSPITAL and INSURANCE SYSTEMS, and UNIVERSITIES are STILL OBSTRUCTING the training of our population and media because they don’t want to SHIFT the PROFIT and POWER STRUCTURES of these massive systems. Children do need Mental Health and behavioral supports, more than they need to immediately be given MEDICATIONS, especially with overwhelmed, untrained parents. Family-Child Integrated therapy, is essential, with School collaboration. I worked as a WRAPAROUND STATE CASE MANAGER, which merges all community therapeutic support, while being medically supervised by a Psychiatrist or a Psychologist. They provided TSS Therapeutic Support Staff in the School, Home, for Severe Behavioral, Medical, Truancy, Psychiatric issues. Behavior Specialist would write BEHAVIOR PLANS with specific goals for the TSS to work-on. These types of services need to be EXPANDED AGAIN NATIONWIDE as RESPONSE to the MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS and EDUCATION CRISIS, in most COMMUNITIES.
@Dan_Selzle
@Dan_Selzle Ай бұрын
Someone needs to start a petition, or send Biden a message more directly to pardon Mangione on the federal level and leave it to the state only
@user-jpwiremans1575
@user-jpwiremans1575 Ай бұрын
You know mr. I only care about the Billonaire's trump never would. His clan are going to cut medicare and S. S. waumit tull he screws his clueless sheep...lol.
@barbie6695
@barbie6695 Ай бұрын
I’ll start it, just tell me where to start… who do I talk to?
@cassiemay9634
@cassiemay9634 Ай бұрын
I don’t live in the USA, but I hope you guys do all you can for Luigi. From Australia 🇦🇺
@barbie6695
@barbie6695 Ай бұрын
@@cassiemay9634 You guys can help from Australia too. The word can be spread from every corner of the world 🌍 to Free Luigi.
@Rich-eg6qb
@Rich-eg6qb Ай бұрын
Why, he shot a man in the back in a planned attack. I know thinking is it your strong suit, but you might want to try it before writing such a stupid remark.
@pooger7778
@pooger7778 Ай бұрын
One thing that stands out to me is him talking about being on another wavelength. Maybe he’s on the autism spectrum. I was diagnosed in my 30’s and I spent most of my life thinking I was an alien or lived on a slightly adjacent plane of existence. It’s pretty common in autistic people to feel this way. Also the fact he researched so diligently and the heightened sense of justice are other common autistic traits.
@englishrose5483
@englishrose5483 Ай бұрын
Or maybe he is just a highly intelligent, deep thinker who sees societies for what they are.
@economobserv
@economobserv Ай бұрын
His twitter had asperger related posts
@torreyls2408
@torreyls2408 Ай бұрын
​@englishrose5483 you just basically described Autism. I'm on the spectrum and Luigi definitely is, we can spot our kind a mile away.
@maricotodiz4475
@maricotodiz4475 Ай бұрын
Agree.
@AnthonyMorris-e3c
@AnthonyMorris-e3c Ай бұрын
I noticed that too, but as my friends say "you see autism in everyone." 😅 Wishful thinking on my part? 😅😅
@wayneroach6736
@wayneroach6736 Ай бұрын
The only jury I see voting guilty is one of 12 "healthcare" CEOs
@yamchayaku
@yamchayaku Ай бұрын
@TheChosenOne-l6c I'd also say that there would be a lot of potential stealth jurors trying to get themselves in to prevent those bootlickers from taking a seat.
@Lisa-r6u1w
@Lisa-r6u1w Ай бұрын
​@TheChosenOne-l6c it's disgusting just look at the mayor of NYC begging for campaign donations from the Healthcare insurance industry.
@macareuxmoine
@macareuxmoine Ай бұрын
@TheChosenOne-l6cBut are there 12 out of 12?
@jameswhite3415
@jameswhite3415 Ай бұрын
​@TheChosenOne-l6c They tried Jessie James, brother, the cop killer on tons on 3 separate cases. Found not guilty on all of them.
@macareuxmoine
@macareuxmoine Ай бұрын
@jameswhite3415 let’s keep our fingers crossed
@Aikidragon_Prime
@Aikidragon_Prime Ай бұрын
I know what the term "Post traumatic stress disorder" means. I had a cancer operation in 2023. It was large and left a very large wound. After the operation I was given a change of dressing and sent home with instructions to take care of it myself. The wound was on my lower back upper buttock so me taking care of it was impossible without causing damage, the wound was 7"W x 6"L x 3"D. I went to my surgeon's office two days later to ask if his nurse could change the dressing. The nurse looked at the wound and asked me "where is the wound-vac?" I didn't know what that was, so she explained it to me, I told her I didn't get one. She setup homecare. The first visit from the home care nurse she asked me the same question "where is the wound-vac" I told her I didn't get one, she changed the dressing and took a picture of the wound. Two days later her next visit didn't go well, the dressing stuck to the wound, and I ended up passing out from the pain, the nurse called an ambulance, and 7 days after the operation I went to the ER with an infection and a 109-temperature that caused brain damage all because I didn't get the wound-vac. I was in the hospital for 3 days before they gave me the equipment which cause me enough pain, I passed out again when it was installed. I spent a total of 10 days in the hospital because I wasn't given equipment to keep me out of the hospital. Every nurse and doctor that saw the picture and heard the story said I should get a lawyer. When I was able to do it, I only had 6 months before the statute of limitations hit. I spoke with over 20 lawyers, none would take the case because I couldn't pay. One even told me to just bring to small claims court. I'm still recovering 18 months after the operation, no work and no benefits, my food stamps were taken away because a friend paid my rent a couple months and I reported it to the government, they took them away because he gave me money. I'm on my last breaths here.
@c471
@c471 Ай бұрын
@Aikidragon_Prime I am so sorry you went through such horrible medical trauma! 🥺😭 I understand.
@MariePriss
@MariePriss Ай бұрын
I’m so sorry :( life is so not fair… 💔
@thegreypath1777
@thegreypath1777 20 күн бұрын
@Aikidragon_Prime : Contact your local (usually county) Legal-Aid Office, and see if someone there can help you. You need to talk to a Personal Injury Attorney.
@weirdsciencetv4999
@weirdsciencetv4999 Ай бұрын
I am a biologist and it’s totally plausible epigenetics can play a role in response to environmental stressors and it can be passed generationally even if not directly through genetic code.
@professorgil6845
@professorgil6845 Ай бұрын
If there were family trauma, then Luigi developed his keen sense of empathy and personal strength as a survival skill from his father’s (speculated) narcissistic abuse who is likely intensely jealous of Luigi. In psychology, Luigi would be a scapegoat subjected to targeted daily abuse. His mother would be an enabler aiding to let this abuse persist since Luigi was a little kid because she is too weak to draw boundaries. His two sisters would be spared by their father because they are girls and there is no direct competition. The mother said she could see her son ‘do something like that’ is a very odd voluntary statement given she could remain silent. But if her husband is a narcissist then he is not capable of loving anyone and may have used his wife as a mouthpiece. Additionally, no one in his family was at the court. Maybe the father prohibited them from helping. Children with narcissistic parents are not loved, so they often look outward for friends. In Luigi’s graduation speech, he is compassionate and empathetic because he says nothing about himself. It makes sense if his parents are narcissists and enablers. It also explains why he projects strength by keeping his head up because he has conditioned himself to be that way all his life as a survival skill in a lonely family with no love. For those who accuse Luigi of being narcissistic and egotistical, then something just doesn’t add up. I think it makes sense that his father is a narcissist.
@thesouluniversal
@thesouluniversal 26 күн бұрын
My Fathers a narcissist, my mothers a jekyll & hyde (but mostly hateful these days) enabler. Im bowled over by your perception and understanding - are you a therapist? Most people live in blissful ignorance. I came to the same conclusion that narcissists cant love, my parents dont even know me, they project, I have to maintain a distance for my mental health. And yes, what Luigis mother said is the kind of thing my own would say.
@snicky58
@snicky58 Ай бұрын
I hope his trial occurs before the government makes jury nullification illegal.
@thea1rachiel
@thea1rachiel Ай бұрын
you said it
@AmandaBloom-jd2po
@AmandaBloom-jd2po Ай бұрын
Yep
@laurenkendrick
@laurenkendrick Ай бұрын
I was only made aware of this youtube channel because of all this Luigi/healthcare news, and now it's one of my favorite channels. Thanks for all you do!
@barbie6695
@barbie6695 Ай бұрын
Luigi is a brave man.
@j.7701
@j.7701 Ай бұрын
If he is guilty for executing a man is he still brave or a murderer
@barbie6695
@barbie6695 Ай бұрын
@@j.7701 Both.
@DoktorJava
@DoktorJava Ай бұрын
@@j.7701 hey conserva-bot, keep licking really hard and maybe the human that programmed you will become a rich healthcare CEO someday and get to profit on denying care to millions of people!
@innconspicuous
@innconspicuous Ай бұрын
Imagine being so out of touch you say that people like this guy because of a meme 😊
@Mewill21
@Mewill21 Ай бұрын
Keep snooping. Loved your report. Watched Michael Moore’s documentary SICKO. Really made me mad and made me want to move to England. We are being exploited by our own government. When you profit from human suffering it’s exploitation.
@MauraCole-c5l
@MauraCole-c5l Ай бұрын
@@Mewill21 I’ve lived in Europe. Moving to England right now is not the wisest choice. They are having serious problems as well, with major protests, problems with billionaires, and an imperialistic government that doesn’t know how to reform or listen to the majority of it’s citizens just like the USA.
@Dan_Selzle
@Dan_Selzle 29 күн бұрын
​@@MauraCole-c5lruthless billionaires get whatever they want and couldn't care less about the less fortunate. Eat the rich !
@Mewill21
@Mewill21 28 күн бұрын
@ I have seen that this pestilence is swarming over Europe too, but didn’t know it was happening in England. Thank you for your help.
@economobserv
@economobserv Ай бұрын
13:28 Luigi is sooo right... What a brilliant man.
@reginakeller3038
@reginakeller3038 Ай бұрын
18:38 This is the best video I have seen on the subject. Makes total, reasonable sense. Thanks so much for your time and efforts to bring this to light.
@tracylynn6312
@tracylynn6312 Ай бұрын
Great perspective. I think he's an overly sensitive person who got overwhelmed by the constant and rampant injustices of this world. I can absolutely relate. My therapist strongly recommended limiting my news consumption years ago because if you've dealt with trauma in your past, you usually have an unbelievable desire to right the wrongs of the world. I wish both LM and the people who loved Brian Thompson peace.
@TheAwesomes2104
@TheAwesomes2104 Ай бұрын
Yes, I've been through years of therapy and been prescribed every drug a psychiatrist can think of, and none of it helped a bit, only made things much worse. Eventually, I met someone who told me "You aren't depressed because something is wrong with you. You are depressed because the world is depressing, people are even more depressing, and you can't just ignore it all like most do. You can't take a drug to fix you because you aren't the problem. You shouldn't want to numb your empathy because it's not the problem, it's just your ability to see the problem. Taking these drugs, that make you feel empty, to try to fix you is like holding your breath because something in your house stinks. It's completely unrealistic to think you can keep it up forever, or that doing so will solve the underlying problem." I think this is the reason why depression rates are so high, and the rates of drugs and therapy actually fixing it are so low. You'd have to be either dumb or a sociopath not to be depressed by our current reality.
@maygrantz4426
@maygrantz4426 Ай бұрын
@@TheAwesomes2104 correct but there is also a chemical imbalance in the brain. If you are over sensitive and you will be easily affected of the people who are depressed and your invironment.
@olympiaelda1121
@olympiaelda1121 Ай бұрын
Im a doctor, and chemical inbalance in depression as an underlying issues is a myth, now we know. Its way more complex than that, and it is not the main issue.
@sugahoney89
@sugahoney89 Ай бұрын
​@maygrantz4426 there is NO chemical imbalance. It has been debunked! I have been highly sensitive most of my life and never been on drugs and never believed in taking them. People have betrayed my trust so much that I am not as sensitive as I was before.
@IAMGiftbearer
@IAMGiftbearer Ай бұрын
More likely he is appropriately sensitive and most people are not sensitive enough. I've never believed avoiding the news is the answer ultimately. Just like with anything else it's more about how you react to it that is triggering, or not, and you only gain mastery over an obstacle if you climb over it. Stopping short of it gets you no further ahead. Being fully aware is empowering whereas avoidance is dangerous because if you're asleep you can't take steps to keep yourself safe (this philosophy is coming from having had some of the best trauma treatment in the country). We *should* and it is healthy to actively engage to right the wrongs of the world. It gives us a sense of purpose and somethin concrete we can do about it, and being proactive sure beats feeling powerless!
@Olivetree00
@Olivetree00 Ай бұрын
Love how you are always on the ground, talking to the people and not staying in your bubble.
@beng4647
@beng4647 Ай бұрын
My parents are narcissistic sociopaths. So I get it. The kind of abuse you experience is impossible to explain. Its so extremely manipulative that no one could ever understand.
@CharlieBoy360
@CharlieBoy360 Ай бұрын
Like them telling you they love you in private yet not publicly supporting you even though they did spend six, or possibly even seven figures on legal counsel but won't show their face or stand behind you in any emotionally relevant way? I think many families here in the US qualify in that regard. Money like it's free but openly showing real love or intimacy like they're poor beggars.
@thesouluniversal
@thesouluniversal 26 күн бұрын
Same here, I understand 💯
@kateoneal4215
@kateoneal4215 Ай бұрын
One need not experience trauma to take a courageous step toward doing what one feels to rectify a wrong- or call attention to that wrong.
@cormacbowman6595
@cormacbowman6595 Ай бұрын
I am grateful for the work of Status Coup
@glenlev
@glenlev Ай бұрын
It's not that jury nullification would mean they think the act is justified-- the jurors could have other reasons to give Luigi a break.
@FrancesWebb-z2c
@FrancesWebb-z2c Ай бұрын
Even IF narcissism WERE involved, he gave up EVERYTHING including his grams inheritance and he was soooo right peaceful protests have NEVER changed our overlords’ crockery and fuckery❤
@ladymary22
@ladymary22 Ай бұрын
Manguone sounds like he is lonely Not unusual in this day and age Isolation is traumatic
@tammyrobinson1613
@tammyrobinson1613 Ай бұрын
And trauma, as well as chronic pain creates loneliness
@sugahoney89
@sugahoney89 Ай бұрын
I wish I could have known him before. He seems like an amazing person. 😢
@elleanna5869
@elleanna5869 Ай бұрын
Ironically also the ceo looked like a lonely man, unliked and separated from his own wife and children since 2018. He consacrated himself to profit , to raise, to power, to privilege - at any cost, even offering to his shareholders screams tears and losses , of the company's "clients", stabbing them in the back. And they were his own class, the middle to low income he was from . His life was ended not that different, hit in the back,at the hands of another troubled lonely man young enough to be his son. Maybe mr. Ceo was proud to shower with any luxury his wife and his children (but gossip say otherwise)it didn't keep the family together but probably it felt good and fulfilling enough to forget that he wasn't the ceo of some company in neutral businness. Surely his peers live in this alternative reality. Your coscience stays clean if you never use it. More comfortable. He had some trauma stored too, likely. And who knows how his children will deal with his violent death and the violence hidden in their wealth. Who knows if they will face dilemma and darkness not too differently from Luigi the (alleged)class traitor. ....But, that said , I really think that people should not wait too much to march in the street for their rights. Internet alone isn't enough. The echo of a gunshot fades quickly.
@MauraCole-c5l
@MauraCole-c5l Ай бұрын
@@ladymary22 Loneliness is an EXCUSE for the complex pain/trauma shock dynamic. It is an internal, personal struggle to figure-out how to cope with the emotional attack the body and brain experiences. It isn’t “loneliness”, it is a “self-protection response” to try and understand how to manage the body that is breaking down, injured and how to find ways to heal or cope with saving the body. Luigi had plenty of friends and family. He chose to distance himself from them, possibly to manage his chronic pain injury journey in his own way, because a human is living the experience within their own body, and no one better understands that pain journey then they do.
@endgamefond
@endgamefond 29 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same too. Deep down I think he's a caring person, he just doesn't know how to cope with the real world.
@tuchehstone
@tuchehstone Ай бұрын
It sounds like Luigi is badly describing intergenerational trauma. It's real and it's certainly impactful!
@RS-hs5lq
@RS-hs5lq Ай бұрын
We don't know how Luigi is describing anything from this. It is this British "journalist's" interpretation of what he said. Given all we have seen thus far about Luigi's intelligence and academic achievements, I would be willing to bet he knows a great deal more about intergenerational trauma than this guy on CNN who is simply trying to get some publicity just because he had a couple of conversations with Mangione. I believe they never actually met, their chats were either via email or phone.
@jrtaylor2288
@jrtaylor2288 Ай бұрын
One of my favorite movies, Into the wild, I believe Luigi, had a similar spirt as thar guy. He also came from a wealthy family & wanted nothing more than to be free of what society created. That's just a sense I have. Combine that kind of free sprit, with a freedom fighter! He's a hero to me! :)
@susane1010
@susane1010 Ай бұрын
Your message today is very very enlightening, about Luigi and about our current culture in US. Thank you!!!
@Cruznick06
@Cruznick06 Ай бұрын
Trauma accumulating could also be referring to generations repeating past mistakes. A refusal to go to family therapy and be introspective, ontinuing toxic behaviors of their parents, "Its always been this way." Ect. These absolutely can compound and continue harm in each subsequent generation. And yes, epigenetics IS real. Extreme stress has the potential to change our gene expression and these changes absolutely can continue to offspring. We don't know how sigificant this is in humans yet, but we have clear proof in rats which are a surprisingly accurate analog to humans for biological research. This journalist needs to do some serious reading of scientific literature and the peer-reviewed studies.
@marilynnnewell8855
@marilynnnewell8855 Ай бұрын
Thank you ❤💙. Obviously there was something this young man had issues with. Hopefully he can get the correct emotional help he needs. This isn’t just about Luigi. This is an eye opening for our corrupt government , and heath care, and how this is dangerously being handled. Time for justice.
@espiritualidadc7365
@espiritualidadc7365 Ай бұрын
My brother-in-law was a gym teacher in a rich private high school, also but a mostly middle class one. I asked him in which school did the kids overall have more problems, he said the rich one.
@TinkletitsMcGee
@TinkletitsMcGee Ай бұрын
I would nullify if I was on the pool
@icytime1416
@icytime1416 Ай бұрын
Intergenerational trauma like that which is contained inside indigenous who remain connected to the earth and heavenly spiritual content is real. People with souls know and understand this fact.
@serenapope2715
@serenapope2715 Ай бұрын
Sin - something isn't natural I think there's something in the bible about the sins of the fathers being visited on the sons. So if things against nature were part of his family's experiences chosen or not isn't that intergenerational trauma?
@katnip6289
@katnip6289 Ай бұрын
Trama is never forgotten! Trust me!
@ello8116
@ello8116 Ай бұрын
Should I be worried about how much I resonate with Luigi's feelings about society, technology and generational trauma?! Luckily, I scare easily and live in Britain, so no chance of shooting anyone.
@catherinesydney
@catherinesydney Ай бұрын
Me exactly.
@jaquettajones
@jaquettajones 28 күн бұрын
No you should not be worried. It just makes you an Empath. Luigi is an Empath, Highly Intelligent and a Truth Teller. That makes him a threat.
@KevinBruce-l9m
@KevinBruce-l9m Ай бұрын
This interview reveals Luigi as a thinker.
@katarinadep
@katarinadep Ай бұрын
Everything is passed down, not just trauma.
@plappin
@plappin Ай бұрын
Something that I haven't seen addressed much is that there was mention of him not being able to be sexually intimate due to his injury. That alone would be traumatic in one so young. Also, it seems odd that there is no evidence, that I am aware of, of his ever having been in an intimate relationship: no one has come forward about this. I mean, a good-looking 26 yo male?
@j1407bmoon
@j1407bmoon Ай бұрын
So about there being no mention of his past romantic partner/s - Someone from his friend circle said that he never got into a serious relationship because he was shy with girls. He had a few short flings though. And about not being able to be intimate because of back issues - That was probably only until he got his spinal fusion surgery. According to his own social media post in February this year, he does not have any back issues now.
@GoodBaleadaMusic
@GoodBaleadaMusic Ай бұрын
epigenetic memory is crucial for all lifeforms.
@WhiteMagnoliaTree
@WhiteMagnoliaTree Ай бұрын
We know that trauma can be passed down from generations. Look at the native people and the trauma that's still very present, look at the ancestors of people who were enslav and the trauma that's still around. Not only is trauma passed down culturally it's also passed down through families. Broken people only begat broken people. All this is a result of of trauma on every level
@DaxtonKnight
@DaxtonKnight Ай бұрын
He's actually being the bigger one than his family. He wasn't missing either, he cut his damn family off . I know his mother and him didnt get along. He tried. She verbally abused him because he didnt want to be like them and she would force him to eat with the opposite hand just to fit in with them and nothing he did was good enough. I know because a journalists pulled up the quick back and forth interview that was written in a notebook. Real story. Trauma DOES travel through bloodline , he's telling the truth.
@blckshplwyr1601
@blckshplwyr1601 Ай бұрын
Join the club. I grew up in a physically and mentally abusive household. Think Amy Chua and Tiger mom. Now that I’m a family lawyer you’d have to give me a giant incentive to have children. My biggest fear is that I’ll inadvertently do to them what was done to me. No more.
@yokomortel6479
@yokomortel6479 Ай бұрын
Right? I was thinking to myself, try living in an Asian household… its like prison. I have 1 son and I think we will successfully break the generational cycle with this one. I am hopeful!
@blckshplwyr1601
@blckshplwyr1601 Ай бұрын
@@yokomortel6479 I hate to say it but I look at the Asian kids today with extremely overworked and/or permissive Millennial or Gen-X parents. The stuff that many of these American born ABCs (or other Asians) get away with today would have landed me in a grave. And all I was trying to do was communicate with my parents. Again, I’m a family lawyer. And a criminal defense attorney. I work to get paid, but I wonder if it’s all worth it. Many of us feel hollowed out inside. We Asian males of the early 80s generation either did well or got served the ass end of the life stick. You don’t know how many guys my age turn to me because they’re basically s*icidal. And they didn’t come from millionaire Anglo families. So again, as a lawyer, I’m all over this trauma theory as a defense theory. As an Asian? Again, join the club.
@minhgudjonnson-ngo9781
@minhgudjonnson-ngo9781 28 күн бұрын
@@yokomortel6479you can do it babes! -eldest Vietnamese sister 1st generation American mama ❤ and dont let this be why you dont expand your bloodline. You can make it stronger and you will do so when you feel initiated.
@lisashapiro4714
@lisashapiro4714 Ай бұрын
Luigi's not guilty
@JeniferDixon-f6g
@JeniferDixon-f6g Ай бұрын
Exactly, no one sees the face of the shooter.
@j.7701
@j.7701 Ай бұрын
Time will tell. Do you want him not to be the shooter ?
@Rich-eg6qb
@Rich-eg6qb Ай бұрын
Yes, like it or not, he is guilty. He planned and shot a man in the back. Luigi is a POS.
@JeniferDixon-f6g
@JeniferDixon-f6g Ай бұрын
@@j.7701How do we know he is the shooter? You never see the shooter's face.
@j.7701
@j.7701 Ай бұрын
@@JeniferDixon-f6g i guess my "time will tell" comment went over your head as well as "do you want him to be the shooter" .....if he guilty he will rot in jail for the rest of his life and everyone will forget about him in a few months
@Nopadope
@Nopadope Ай бұрын
I love how this case spans so many significant topics that we’ve only begun to discuss. This is a tipping point for so many unhad conversations. I love everything about this. Edit: spelling
@Shelly-o5j
@Shelly-o5j Ай бұрын
He’s just the scapegoat.
@missmg
@missmg Ай бұрын
Epigenetics is NOT a pseudoscience. I study psychology and we analyze research data that, while relatively recent, is gaining acknowledgment by reputable scientists.
@saffy565
@saffy565 Ай бұрын
Precisely! Scientists found out that Mitochondrial Eve was the most recent, traceable, human, female ancestor, going back between 100,000 and 200,000 years. The journalist needs to do some research.
@DrClassyBadAssy
@DrClassyBadAssy Ай бұрын
Yes, it is.
@eden_aumakua
@eden_aumakua Ай бұрын
FREE SAINT LUIGI
@zippagraphics
@zippagraphics Ай бұрын
Literally everyone has trauma that we don't know about. So yes.
@economobserv
@economobserv Ай бұрын
Thank you❤❤❤
@robertbarnier45
@robertbarnier45 23 күн бұрын
SAVE LUIGI. HERO OF THE PEOPLE. ❤❤❤
@suemehun
@suemehun Ай бұрын
Justice ⚖️ for Luigi ❤ My man, my ROBIN HOOD ❤️ HERO 💙 He sacrificed himself for the greater good of humanity.
@BallJoinedWing
@BallJoinedWing Ай бұрын
Free luigi
@youareawesomethankyouforge8803
@youareawesomethankyouforge8803 Ай бұрын
Luigi is spot on about Trauma. It's multigenerational and passed down unless someone breaks the cycle and gets help. Bessel Vanderkolt wrote the book the Body Keeps the Score and talks extensively about trauma. But, just as in all books, it can be misinterpreted
@Rich-eg6qb
@Rich-eg6qb Ай бұрын
So, it doesn't give him the right to shoot a man in the back.
@everythingmatters6308
@everythingmatters6308 Ай бұрын
​@@Rich-eg6qbYeah. It does.
@DannyReyes-y5f
@DannyReyes-y5f Ай бұрын
I've been saying that no one in any history says I acted alone before the question is asked. Unless someone is being protected. He was in NY for 11 days and no one wears the same clothes for 11 days. He didn't stay at the hostel and he is shown there 2 times. He stood somewhere. Amazing that the cctv picture of him holding a bike charger is gone. You can't remove charger from a city bike. I strongly believe that Luigi had an accomplice and he's protecting him or her. Don't forget about the phone call and why they're not talking about it anymore
@RosinaPasquale-pb7wy
@RosinaPasquale-pb7wy Ай бұрын
Thanks for your analysis today. Free Luigi. Medicalising a rational critique of the system is another way to control political discourse and maintaining hegemony. Luigi is a deep thinker. Bravissimo Luigi. Sei tutti noi. Ti vogliamo molto bene. ❤
@JessicaDainese
@JessicaDainese Ай бұрын
Sono d'accordo!!❤
@kathleenroberts6931
@kathleenroberts6931 Ай бұрын
Thank you, for covering this 😊
@jackieh3016
@jackieh3016 Ай бұрын
Keep these Luigi videos coming, please! I'm really enjoying your coverage. Also, MY SHAYLA 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 Freee him!!!!!!!
@worldadventuretravel
@worldadventuretravel 28 күн бұрын
I'm really effing pissed that it took almost a decade and a CEO whacking for people to find their conscience and wake up to the fact that healthcare is a human right. It's not like tens of millions of us and an extremely prominent political figure were shouting it from the rooftops through two entire election cycles or anything. So y'all can discuss what this means, but I'm out here reminding everyone that *WE COULD'VE HAD BERNIE SANDERS."
@pintex747
@pintex747 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@rollingsteady3107
@rollingsteady3107 Ай бұрын
When will the government go after Unitedhealthcare for causing the Unaliving of its customers?
@CharlieBoy360
@CharlieBoy360 Ай бұрын
When they go bankrupt. Then they will swoop in, freeze their assets and send a couple of middle managers or low level executives to prison. Then the next president will pardon them after 4-5 years. Rinse and repeat.
@jamaicaandrada5526
@jamaicaandrada5526 Ай бұрын
FREE LUIGI!!!
@Marley48
@Marley48 Ай бұрын
Very good reporting.
@graphiquejack
@graphiquejack Ай бұрын
I think we can assume he went through some sort of trauma that made him not only shoot Thompson (allegedly) but also abandon all of his circle of family and friends. Something happened or snapped in him to make him do that. Personally, I don’t think there’s any justifiable excuse for murder… unless the person killed is someone who has killed on a massive scale.
@saffy565
@saffy565 Ай бұрын
There might be no "excuse" for murder but there are many, many reasons, including the number of people who die at the hands of private healthcare companies.
@buttercxpdraws8101
@buttercxpdraws8101 29 күн бұрын
Brian did kill on a massive scale. He is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in his pursuit of profit.
@noeliaboscar6843
@noeliaboscar6843 Ай бұрын
Not “pseudo-scientífic” at all. Those are new visions on Psychology and even Psychiatry, for instance, Dr. Gabor Maté. The thing is how this information is presented. Thanks for this information.
@shawny57
@shawny57 Ай бұрын
I just found this channel sunce trying to learn more about LM and now support you guys ! Youre awesome!
@pinecone7241
@pinecone7241 Ай бұрын
I learned about trauma so I could learn how to fix my mental health issues. I could somewhat relate to Luigi's sudden drastic change in personality and his concerns about loss of agency. These effects are consistent with serious trauma, and it is indeed passed through the generations in families. Also agree with Luigi about certain activities like porn addiction causing mental damage.
@deborahlukovich8006
@deborahlukovich8006 Ай бұрын
I’m glad you’re sharing this. When a billionaire convinces you to put a chip in your body …
@Valerie-n5z
@Valerie-n5z Ай бұрын
I know right 😮😮😮😮
@FrancesWebb-z2c
@FrancesWebb-z2c Ай бұрын
Holy crap- thank you - which explains why Luigi knew he would be immediately captured by hidden cop cams❤ I LOVE the kid’s thinking more each day❤
@kitten7258-s3b
@kitten7258-s3b Ай бұрын
Your spot on with greed and corruption in our society. Corporate and Political. 😢
@shaunalem4810
@shaunalem4810 Ай бұрын
Free Luigi , Period !!
@SukhdevSingh-ge5rj
@SukhdevSingh-ge5rj Ай бұрын
Free Luigi Mangione superstar 😀😀😀😀😀 from Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
@peaceice8755
@peaceice8755 Ай бұрын
FREE LUIGI 🙏💖
@FrancesWebb-z2c
@FrancesWebb-z2c Ай бұрын
Thank you sooooooo much for sharing all Luigi was concerned about and boy is LUIGI SPOT ON❤
@EmilyKatherine-ks7vu
@EmilyKatherine-ks7vu Ай бұрын
Luigi is our 21st century Jesus. Free Luigi!!!
@paigefoster8396
@paigefoster8396 Ай бұрын
Aaron Bushnell is the closest I've come to understanding how people feel about Jesus
@vickyabramowitz2885
@vickyabramowitz2885 Ай бұрын
Jesus never murdered anyone. Jesus also had a dual nature of being both human and divine. Mangione is 100% human. Mangione is nothing like Jesus.
@paigefoster8396
@paigefoster8396 Ай бұрын
@@vickyabramowitz2885 Aaron Bushnell
@nancyperkins2277
@nancyperkins2277 Ай бұрын
​@@vickyabramowitz2885the dual nature of Jesus was a hot debate topic for theologians. It isn't a thing we can actually know. Whether he was human, divine, or both, well only god actually knows.
@SigMaQuint
@SigMaQuint Ай бұрын
How should a young person, understanding things the way he did, be able to move forward. What kind of path could he choose?
@TiaChench
@TiaChench Ай бұрын
Interesting they call The Body Keeps the Score as an activist effort. Activism toward… healing? It’s scientific and empirical.
@saffy565
@saffy565 Ай бұрын
Hopefully the journalist will get enough blowback on his dumb statement to go and do some research.
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