Did Steve Nash Deserve To Win His MVPs?

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Andy Hoops

Andy Hoops

3 жыл бұрын

Steve Nash was unquestionably a phenomenal player, one of the greatest point guards ever and turned around a struggling franchise, the Phoenix Suns. However...people don't give him the credit he deserves. In this video, I talk about how Nash almost won three MVPs.
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@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 3 жыл бұрын
Shaq is so damn petty, man. "Does this name mean anything? 2 time MVP Steve Na-" "No." Let it go, dude. It was over a decade ago lmao
@keymochi_
@keymochi_ 3 жыл бұрын
he seems salty as always
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 3 жыл бұрын
@@keymochi_ it never ends with that guy 🙄
@belfastbelchan4039
@belfastbelchan4039 3 жыл бұрын
And Shaq wasnt even in Top 10 when he said he was robbed by Nash lmao what a joke. He's arguably the best center but that statement he said about Nash is an absolute wack
@tyreefreeman7450
@tyreefreeman7450 3 жыл бұрын
He’s mad cause javale mcgee better
@aarnejaroma
@aarnejaroma 3 жыл бұрын
hes gotten kinda annoying imo
@aznpikachu215
@aznpikachu215 3 жыл бұрын
0:01 - 0:22 - Shaq has a big ego issue. Jeez, from Dwight to McGee to Nash. It's like he enjoys having this bully personality despite being one of the best players, and accomplishing a lot of the court.
@kygu
@kygu 3 жыл бұрын
*fragile ego*
@Jenin2003
@Jenin2003 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😭
@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t
@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t 3 жыл бұрын
Shaq wasn't even the best player on his team in 06
@enzozanon4
@enzozanon4 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention him trying to discredit everything Tim Duncan acheived. But it's not like Timmy gives a fuck about it.
@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t
@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t 3 жыл бұрын
@Vante no Shaq wasn't. It's moreso he was better the year prior, but even that's arguable. Wade came out the year before in the playoffs not 06. 06 is just when he won the finals, but in the playoffs the year before he averaged 27, 6, and 7 on 48% and would've went to the finals if he didn't miss game 7 against the Pistons in 05. Shaq was not better than Wade in 06 man
@snapcrackleshazam
@snapcrackleshazam 3 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the most underrated MVP/ All-stars of that 2000's era. He was effective on every part of the floor, especially in those unseen stats. His ability to floor general and basically up the caliber of his team through his own I.Q. and ability to react and push the offense extremely fast. His supporting Cast in Phoenix at times were very lackluster. Barbosa, Diaw, Stoudemire and etc... were all interesting (Stoudemire being a force back then) pieces but didn't fit together in many ways without a top tier point guard pulling them together and getting them to places that they can score. Steve Nash was a great player and is going to be a great coach due to his extreme I.Q., one of the most fun players to watch (phoenix suns team was extremely enjoyable to watch during his reign)
@LS-ml5pr
@LS-ml5pr 3 жыл бұрын
He literally averagerd 16 points thats why he was effektive . Also he could not play defence to save his life and his assists were bumped by the pick n roll offence they used like stockton with the jazz. That is the reason they could not win a championship and failed to do deep playoff runs
@RS_0422
@RS_0422 3 жыл бұрын
@@LS-ml5pr Nash couldn't win because of Mike D'Antoni and his problems not making the adjustments when a player is struggling btw I'm not a Steve Nash fan but I'm just saying
@devilson14321
@devilson14321 3 жыл бұрын
You failed to mention shawn marion. But its totally mike dantoni who made that team more so than nash.
@Mindofchange.1
@Mindofchange.1 3 жыл бұрын
So by ur logic Chris Paul should be winnning mvp’s
@Mindofchange.1
@Mindofchange.1 3 жыл бұрын
@bojo perez I think steve Nash was a great player but winning mvp’s over shaq? Nah
@kawaiiunicorn8992
@kawaiiunicorn8992 3 жыл бұрын
How good was Corey Maggette a soild scorer in his prime in the 2000s.
@KingDayDayDay00
@KingDayDayDay00 3 жыл бұрын
He'd be a good third option on any team
@lekobejordan9766
@lekobejordan9766 3 жыл бұрын
He was the James harden but without 3pt step back
@jamesalcantara4217
@jamesalcantara4217 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@IWockySlushl
@IWockySlushl 3 жыл бұрын
i got a ad an while i read corey the add mentioned sumone named corey lmaooo
@pddimez8485
@pddimez8485 3 жыл бұрын
he kinda made a video about him, it was one of the players in the unorthodox play style videos
@FawaArtt
@FawaArtt 3 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you mentioned: 1. Best Player and MVP are different. Because definitely MJ and LBJ would conquer everything. 2. Dirk could've won the 2006 if not for the division rules. Keep it up Andy Hoopaa 👍
@cezaryadamski8786
@cezaryadamski8786 3 жыл бұрын
This division and conference thing is so stupid. I mean team with 44 wind ahead of 60 + wins team 🤣
@jaypeesalazar9029
@jaypeesalazar9029 3 жыл бұрын
Im still wondering how voters got swayed by playoff seed when its very clear that mavs were 2nd best west team in regular season.
@manijones4997
@manijones4997 3 жыл бұрын
I’m probably wrong but didn’t the mavs make the finals in 06 idk 🤷🏾‍♂️
@maan7259
@maan7259 3 жыл бұрын
@@manijones4997 yeah the mavs reached the finals in 06
@Epupify
@Epupify 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Mavs's seeding had anything to do...or maybe if they were a second seed they'd still not give Dirk the MVP because the team didn't win their division?
@davidli8694
@davidli8694 3 жыл бұрын
People also sometimes under-estimate Nash's leadership and toughness.
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't he lose a tooth in a game and kept playing? Then in the post game interview he pretended to have a lisp lmao
@lekobejordan9766
@lekobejordan9766 3 жыл бұрын
@@slackerofhell didn’t he get trucked by Robert horry and finished the game also
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 3 жыл бұрын
@@lekobejordan9766 I can't remember if that was the game he lost a tooth or if it was somebody else that popped him. Pretty sure they played the Spurs that game, though.
@lekobejordan9766
@lekobejordan9766 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me neither
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 3 жыл бұрын
@Rick Davis what does that have to do with him being able to take a hit?
@jonathancastillo7625
@jonathancastillo7625 3 жыл бұрын
People who says Nash doesn’t deserve it, clearly didn’t watch games before and just looked at the stats.
@MalechiShelton
@MalechiShelton 3 жыл бұрын
Dirk should've won those.
@yvans.
@yvans. 3 жыл бұрын
@@MalechiShelton euh did you watched the video ?
@ZionCHarper2k23
@ZionCHarper2k23 3 жыл бұрын
on soul
@scizorbullet8185
@scizorbullet8185 3 жыл бұрын
@@MalechiShelton maybe but for nash to put up career high stats and win 54 games being a #2 seed with no amare is pretty great.
@KingstonHawke
@KingstonHawke 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. We watched the games. The difference is that we think defense matters.
@CommonSenseless1993
@CommonSenseless1993 3 жыл бұрын
I was in high school during Nash’s prime in the mid-2000s. Anyone who watched him at the time would agree that he deserved at least one of those MVPs without question. Hell, even at the time he won those MVPs I rarely heard anyone question it. Nash and the Suns ushered in a revolutionary system that took the league by storm. Give the man his respect.
@rupertgordonii6623
@rupertgordonii6623 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mamatheregoesthatman3361
@mamatheregoesthatman3361 3 жыл бұрын
Facts phoenix was great, if he dont deserve his mvp then Neither does derrick rose , they both was going super hard
@mystrorawlings8014
@mystrorawlings8014 2 жыл бұрын
@@mamatheregoesthatman3361 whatever drugs u on, u need to get off!!!
@JuanHenny
@JuanHenny Жыл бұрын
Nobody questioned it?! Everybody did, you gotta be a kid
@CommonSenseless1993
@CommonSenseless1993 Жыл бұрын
@@JuanHenny I’m 30. The second MVP was contentious but people are acting like we had our pitch forks out. It was like any other MVP race.
@wondermcthunder8835
@wondermcthunder8835 3 жыл бұрын
How good was Pau Gasol actually. A player who only gets remembered for his days with the Lakers but not what he has done before and after
@alexescutia4805
@alexescutia4805 3 жыл бұрын
Him and Marc crazy they probably the two best players from the same franchise lol
@liamnelson6573
@liamnelson6573 3 жыл бұрын
After?? Aint done shit after the lakers f u talkin bout
@zyontomtania9760
@zyontomtania9760 3 жыл бұрын
@@liamnelson6573 what are you talking about, he helped the bulls reach the conference finals and at on point was the spurs starting center when they went to the conference finals against the warriors
@zyontomtania9760
@zyontomtania9760 3 жыл бұрын
@@liamnelson6573 looks like you don’t know much basketball
@mamatheregoesthatman3361
@mamatheregoesthatman3361 3 жыл бұрын
I use to watch all his Memphis games, he was like a tim duncan light in a deep west, gasol been nice he just didnt have a big market until he went to LA
@chalkzone0
@chalkzone0 3 жыл бұрын
Steve nash is one of the greatest point guards ever
@trexcheung4777
@trexcheung4777 3 жыл бұрын
word
@kabagemayannick5097
@kabagemayannick5097 3 жыл бұрын
Top 5 all time
@spaghetticupcake9879
@spaghetticupcake9879 3 жыл бұрын
@@kabagemayannick5097 maybe top three? Idk
@kabagemayannick5097
@kabagemayannick5097 3 жыл бұрын
@@spaghetticupcake9879 Nah Steph Magic Isiah Stockton
@rafdizon8416
@rafdizon8416 3 жыл бұрын
@@kabagemayannick5097 Nash > Stockton for me...
@Washanuga
@Washanuga 3 жыл бұрын
You can actually argue that he deserved to 3peat and win MVP in 07 too. Guy will always be my fav player, I won't tolerate any Nash hate lol. As a kid in Phx during those years, it was magical. Just a kid from some small school in Canada who had a plethora of back problems but soldiered through it and won 2 MVPs in his 30s. Guy was a warrior.
@Coldskin1
@Coldskin1 2 жыл бұрын
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@JuanHenny
@JuanHenny Жыл бұрын
3peat? Should’ve never even been 2 and he got lucky with 1. He didn’t do shit in 07
@destinyshaw3337
@destinyshaw3337 6 ай бұрын
​@@JuanHennyright bro a 🤡
@scizorbullet8185
@scizorbullet8185 3 жыл бұрын
Nash deserved his mvps his impact to that suns team was unlike anything we've seen in a long time
@kroomgaming8627
@kroomgaming8627 3 жыл бұрын
Kobe was literally the team 18 pts and 10 ast there is no way he's an mvp
@scizorbullet8185
@scizorbullet8185 3 жыл бұрын
@@kroomgaming8627 his impact was more then just stats
@kroomgaming8627
@kroomgaming8627 3 жыл бұрын
@@scizorbullet8185 and I am telling you kobe was the team if kobe and nash switched teams do you think the leakers would be in the playoffs
@scizorbullet8185
@scizorbullet8185 3 жыл бұрын
@@kroomgaming8627 yes
@kroomgaming8627
@kroomgaming8627 3 жыл бұрын
@@scizorbullet8185by your logic cp3 should be an mvp
@AmiriHipHop
@AmiriHipHop 3 жыл бұрын
I just came here for the "Steve Nash robbed Kobe of an MVP award" comments.
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad 3 жыл бұрын
LeBron had a better argument for 2006 IMO
@DJLeroy3
@DJLeroy3 3 жыл бұрын
7th seeds doesn’t win you Mvps
@jalen3876
@jalen3876 3 жыл бұрын
@Rick Davis and cuz of his rape allegations
@patrickferguson8775
@patrickferguson8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisuncleahmad no he didnt lmao
@patrickferguson8775
@patrickferguson8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@DJLeroy3 then why did westbrooke win in 2017???? Kobe averaged more impressive numbers than him and played in a tougher era. Westbrooke still had some decent role players like steven adams, enes kanter, taj gibson, victor oladipo and domantis sabonis. Kobe had players like kwame brown and smush parker. The lakers also pushed the suns to 7 games in the first round when the shouldve gotten swept but kobe played incredible.
@Gravijahz
@Gravijahz 3 жыл бұрын
Basketball fans put too little value in assists. One of my favorite stats. Knowing when to make the right pass is an enormously important skill.
@kawaiiafangirl
@kawaiiafangirl 3 жыл бұрын
I always think of it this way- in 2009, Chris Paul had a 31 point and 17 assist game. If we were to only assume that all of his assists were 2s and there were no 3s or and-1s, then CP3 produced 65 points. Kobe on the other hand, had a few games of 50 points w/ only 1 assist. Using the same reference, Kobe would only produce 52 points, meaning Chris Paul created more points. Of course, I'd rather watch a 50 point game than someone who has a ton of assists any day but it goes to show how undervalued PGs can be.
@VonGOMD
@VonGOMD 2 жыл бұрын
Assist are the most overrated stat
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD 2 жыл бұрын
@@VonGOMD Assists are literally what makes plays, people who don't give assists don't make plays, they just ball-hog and take easy shots from the players that ACTUALLY set up the play. Assists are so insanely underrated and if anything rebounds are the most overrated stat as that's just based off your damn height, a team with a great assisting player completely collapse when they're out, and that's for a reason, they don't know what the hell to do since they rely on the playmaker so much.
@agvga5510
@agvga5510 2 жыл бұрын
Jokic getting all the hate this year bc hes averaging less points than embiid but mor assists. Long story short assists>points
@Coldskin1
@Coldskin1 2 жыл бұрын
@@VonGOMD nash plays no defense and was the 4th option on that 05 suns team
@madprogamer4076
@madprogamer4076 3 жыл бұрын
Shaq isn’t wrong at the beginning about deserving at least one of those MVPs but the way he says it gahh lee this manz ego is so easily bruised
@marcosmartinez8088
@marcosmartinez8088 3 жыл бұрын
He is a hater.
@romansheoships2716
@romansheoships2716 3 жыл бұрын
Idk he might not have been the best player on the heat in 05 and certainly not in 06
@replicantona
@replicantona 3 жыл бұрын
Shaq wasn't even the one to be mad, it was Kobe. Shaq not even the best player on his team when he was on the Heat.
@jhdivina
@jhdivina 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. Nash was able to lift the suns to new heights after he came in with d'antoni. In 2003-04, the suns won only 29 games. After nash joined, they won 62 games with almost the same roster as the previous year. If that's not value, I don't know what is. The heat, on the other hand, didn't get to win 60 games, despite being in the weaker conference.
@marcosmartinez8088
@marcosmartinez8088 3 жыл бұрын
@@replicantona facts. Shaq is mad because he is a 7 ft insecure man, who just wants to gain attention.
@richardhenry5858
@richardhenry5858 3 жыл бұрын
Man, ANDY always showing the 2004/05 - 2010 SUNS love. Thanks, dude. They didn't make the FINALS, but they were a fun team to watch. Being from PHX, we hadn't really seen that kind of success since BARKLEY from 93-95, so it was cool. Thanks for the shine, ANDYHOOPS.
@Steven_Bo1
@Steven_Bo1 Жыл бұрын
I remember being in the 3rd grade hiding my suns jersey in my backpack so I could wear it every single day over my outfit. Green shirt? Who cares. Throw that bright orange suns jersey over it and call it a day 😂
@ItsTheMunz
@ItsTheMunz 3 жыл бұрын
Nash’s first MVP is undebatable. He improved a losing team to a competitive playoff team and started the foundations for today’s brand of basketball. Nobody questioned it when he got it. And yes he deserved his second as well.
@mattmacarthur520
@mattmacarthur520 Жыл бұрын
No way dirk should have claimed it in 2006 no question , he absolutely torched the league that year with insane efficiency , 60 wins and came within 2 games of winning a ring .
@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@JohnSmith-oe5kx Жыл бұрын
@@mattmacarthur520 Fair comments except that the MVP is a regular season award only
@mattmacarthur520
@mattmacarthur520 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx and ? Obviously. Dirk had a WAY better season than Nash , guy was literally the most lethal and EFFICIENT scorer in the entire nba especially during that time . Nash did amazing stuff in phoenix though , have to take my hat off to him especially after Dallas basically gave up on him like that , he definitely proved alot of people wrong
@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@JohnSmith-oe5kx Жыл бұрын
@@mattmacarthur520 And nothing. I said they were fair comments, you just cannot factor in the playoff performance. I would have been fine with Dirk being the MVP in 2006
@mattmacarthur520
@mattmacarthur520 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx definitely man. I was always wanted Nash to win a ring , felt like he was deserving but his phoenix suns just couldn’t get past San Antonio, LA or Dallas . Man the west was absolutely stacked at that time , the East was a joke during the early and mid 2000s
@dispater101
@dispater101 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite player ever, definitely deserved those 2 MVP's..dont know why Shaq said he got robbed twice when he didnt even crack the top 10 in '06 😅
@yeetverse1
@yeetverse1 3 жыл бұрын
How good was David Thompson, underrated 70s scorer
@seanszalai3977
@seanszalai3977 3 жыл бұрын
This is a Steve Nash video not a David Thompson video.
@yeetverse1
@yeetverse1 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanszalai3977 So? The topic is basketball related. David Thompson is an NBA player so that checks out
@miguelgregorio3796
@miguelgregorio3796 3 жыл бұрын
He already did that
@lik7953
@lik7953 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeetverse1 he already made a video on David Thompson I’m pretty sure
@yansonfilpo1818
@yansonfilpo1818 3 жыл бұрын
Steve Nash definitely deserved MVP both times he won. He historically turned around the suns team in 2005 to over 60 wins and took a suns team in 2006 to the western conference finals.
@andrewbarnes5745
@andrewbarnes5745 3 жыл бұрын
Nash also turned it up and activated playoff mode and proved he could drop 30 on your head if he wanted. He was a legit star in the regular season and could turn it up a notch in the playoffs. His toughness and selfless, revolutionary playstyle really separated him from his peers, IMO. I am a Suns fan due to watching Nash growing up in AZ, and he made basketball so exciting to watch. I just wish the 2007 series against the Spurs didn't happen the way it did. I will forever resent Robert Horry for his cheap shot on Nash and ultimately leading us to lose the series due to the suspensions from that fight.
@sarc4sm68
@sarc4sm68 3 жыл бұрын
Imma Laker fan and Steve Nash deserves that MVP. Sure Kobe's number are great but his team never past the 1st round and just below 45 wins that time while nash team won 50-60 games.
@SethKasso
@SethKasso 3 жыл бұрын
And everyone forgets Amar'e missed all of 06.
@tragicmontana202
@tragicmontana202 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how valuable Steve Nash is if u swap him and Kobe. Don’t think he’ll be as valuable as u say. Imo Kobe was very easily robbed of these 2 MVPs.
@hmoobmeeka
@hmoobmeeka 3 жыл бұрын
@@tragicmontana202 the suns didnt even win 30 games the year before they signed nash. After they signed nash, they won over 60 games
@alexescutia4805
@alexescutia4805 3 жыл бұрын
@@tragicmontana202 that’s not how the league works lol “swap them teams”
@waynewilson1068
@waynewilson1068 3 жыл бұрын
Its a regular season MVP doesn't matter if kobe was bounced in first round and Nash won a ring, doesn't make a difference
@PeidaproBasketball
@PeidaproBasketball 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much Andy! Keep up the exceptional work
@BernardMarx95
@BernardMarx95 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, Andy. Keep up the great work, bro.🔥
@neilbryanbucsit197
@neilbryanbucsit197 3 жыл бұрын
How good is Luis Scola or How good is Wally Szczerbiak? Love it how Scola operates down low and Wally is one of the few all stars that played with KG in Minnesota
@lauda7116
@lauda7116 3 жыл бұрын
People who says Nash doesn’t deserve it, clearly didn’t watch games before and just looked at the stats.
@mamatheregoesthatman3361
@mamatheregoesthatman3361 3 жыл бұрын
@@lauda7116 true
@hitmanx2175
@hitmanx2175 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the context placed on nash's mvps. Too many people look at surface level things like stats to discredit him
@polimost6570
@polimost6570 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video Broh! I know i am little biased because I am one of the biggest Steve Nash fans. (then and now.) You mention it in the video. The reason he won the MVPs was because of the revolutionary style of play. Those Suns teams at that time revolved around Nash. He possessed the ball an obscene amount of the time. It was so much fun watching him. I went out of my way to watch Suns games. It was what kind of crazy mind blowing assist am i going to see next.
@lanagorgeous9485
@lanagorgeous9485 8 ай бұрын
I was a huge Steve Nash fan and watched those teams very closely back then. I remember one Sunday headline game Phoenix vs LeBron and the Cavaliers. LeBron talked crap before the game but backed his words up with a 50 point performance, but Phoenix won by 20 and Nash had like 18 or 20 assists. That's all you need to know about those peak Nash years.
@newtonianromance
@newtonianromance 3 жыл бұрын
People dont understand and its most "valuable" player. Not the highest scorer. Its what they bring to your team, which incudes more than just PPG or stats. Maybe they make everyone in their team better like Nash did.
@northernlight1000
@northernlight1000 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! BTW that was also the best episode open court has ever had in the beginning of the video, it was insanely entertaining
@beast1160
@beast1160 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great video!!! He deserved it!!! 2006 was good one!!!
@yvans.
@yvans. 3 жыл бұрын
Andy you missed an important point at the beginning of the 04-05 season the NBA changed a lot of defensive rules such hand checking because the league wanted a faster pace and less defense. Most likely this changement of rules are one of the reason of Nash dominance
@greatest515
@greatest515 8 ай бұрын
He purposely missed that part. along with a lot of other narratives around that time.
@shadstyle
@shadstyle 3 жыл бұрын
Shaq can’t say KD or Steph shouldn’t win an MVP because they were on a stacked team when he himself was playing with the 2nd and 3rd best SG in history
@mamatheregoesthatman3361
@mamatheregoesthatman3361 3 жыл бұрын
Kobe wasn't really kobe then either tho. Couldnt get you 81 in a game back then, always missed threes in the clutch, look at his playoff debut, look what he did vs the pistons he didng become the kobe we know today until shaa left, it was flashes but he didnt take off till after shaq left as a real solo star threatening for face of the league
@JayJayww31
@JayJayww31 2 жыл бұрын
@@mamatheregoesthatman3361 kobe was averaging 30,25,28 etc in those seasons and was all nba 1st and 2nd team. He was still a top 1-2 SG in the league back then
@arthurfhackingshelby9631
@arthurfhackingshelby9631 3 жыл бұрын
I just finish watching “how good was steve nash” and by odds you upload this like my small brain explode 😂😂
@ApolloSol
@ApolloSol 2 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with Shaq. That 05 MVP also was Shaq's first year in Miami and he propelled that team to the East Finals, just a win away from the NBA Finals had D Wade not gotten injured. But as a Heat fan, I recognize we wouldn't have played so well that year without Shaq. So in the same sense that Nash was winning those trophies cus he meant a lot to the Suns, so did Shaq to the Heat that year. Wade was breaking out but still a year away from absolutely blossoming in his championship year. Im okay with Steve winning in 06 but I think Shaq deserved it in 05.
@dannychamberlain6244
@dannychamberlain6244 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with Shaq
@FutureisBrightForUs
@FutureisBrightForUs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid Andy. I honestly thought Nash didn't deserve his 06 MVP because of Kobe's insane 06 campaign. But after watching this video with the added context, he definitely earned the MVP (though I still would've chosen Kobe if that makes sense lol)
@mamatheregoesthatman3361
@mamatheregoesthatman3361 3 жыл бұрын
Because u kobe fan duh
@CRMdrifter
@CRMdrifter 2 жыл бұрын
Westbrooks MVP should be the controversial one. He got an MVP off of stat padding and having his team purposely let him get rebounds so he can get his precious triple doubles that seem to mean more to him than wins. Anyone that thinks Nash didn't deserve his MVP's clearly does not understand the difference between the most valuable player and the best player. And chooses to blend them together as if they are the same thing.
@dannychamberlain6244
@dannychamberlain6244 2 жыл бұрын
They’re mostly casuals.
@BigBird1182
@BigBird1182 3 жыл бұрын
He’s the reason I’m a Suns fan and he’s my favorite player of all time
@slickrgl
@slickrgl 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a spurs fan, but Steve Nash is still my favorite non-spurs players ever. Our rivalry was fun.
@jthomashair
@jthomashair 3 жыл бұрын
Those Suns teams were so much fun. I’m a Mavs fan, but I miss our battles with them.
@anthonysnbatalk9154
@anthonysnbatalk9154 3 жыл бұрын
The main reason behind Nash becoming an MVP caliber player was Jerry Colangelo, who was the Suns chairman and at the same time (in 2001) headed a committee that called for the elimination of the illegal defense and the introduction of the Zone Defense. And considering that Colangelo was involved in the rule changing, the Suns planned to adjust their roster to the way they expected the game to be played in the near future. As a result, their offense would become ahead of their time.
@KingKlose82
@KingKlose82 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andy for this Video. NASH deserved both mvp Trophys 100% 👍🏼
@djacnotdc
@djacnotdc 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely deserves his MVPs. Why is this even being debated?
@dannychamberlain6244
@dannychamberlain6244 2 жыл бұрын
Kobe fans and casuals are mad
@espeman2020
@espeman2020 3 жыл бұрын
The MVP award should always be considered with the team record and what they achieved during the season. This is why, in my opinion, J.Harden had never been robbed with only one MVP in his personal trophy cabinet. Stats are one thing, but context should never be not considered so Nash deserved it even if Shaq was very close in 2005. Thanks for the video and for letting kids know who S.Nash was and how he lead an average team to achieve great stuff in his slow era.
@jasongibbs3713
@jasongibbs3713 Жыл бұрын
2005 - 2006 regular season: Steve Nash - 18.8 ppg 10.5 apg 0.8 spg Allen Iverson - 33.0 ppg 7.4 apg 1.7 spg Iverson also led the league in minutes per game
@nathanlawson313
@nathanlawson313 3 жыл бұрын
He was the definition of CARRYING. You know how hard it is to average 11.5 ast and have your efficiency be off the charts... while playing with trash? The fact that they were a 23 win team just the year before is proof it was all him. Well deserved mvp.. Good video.
@TV-ob1if
@TV-ob1if 3 жыл бұрын
He was the true MVP. Sorry Shaq. Make a goddamn free throw. 😂
@bigdave9188
@bigdave9188 3 жыл бұрын
My fav pg all time love his game
@ata0069
@ata0069 18 күн бұрын
*Knicks fan here* That Suns Team was exciting AF to watch. Think of when Curry/Thompson and the Warriors came in cooking everyone from outside. That’s how the Suns were. Nash/Richardson were like the splash brothers. Everyone was killing it. That offense took the League by storm. That’s why Nash won those MVPs.
@jaypeesalazar9029
@jaypeesalazar9029 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Shaq is so petty! Always questioning nash's 2 mvps when nash definitely deserved them. He may have had a case in 05 but not in 06! Only Dirk (and to a lesser extent, lebron) had an argument in 06.
@JSWang-ii8kd
@JSWang-ii8kd 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remembered that after Jordan's retirement, there were several years NBA became very boring. I just can't bear to watch Spurs vs Pistons. Then things gradually became exciting. Nash was sensational.
@Misilli
@Misilli 2 жыл бұрын
Kobe/Shaq Lakers….
@florinpieleanu130
@florinpieleanu130 2 жыл бұрын
I am gonna comment 'totally' even without seeing your video. Nash was a magician on the court
@byronlim9528
@byronlim9528 3 жыл бұрын
Yes more Andy hoops to cure my boredom and goated nba content
@therandomguy8160
@therandomguy8160 3 жыл бұрын
Nash was a far greater leader than those you've mention, especially shq
@davidelsea1296
@davidelsea1296 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah hes taken alot of L's in his life and no rings.
@therandomguy8160
@therandomguy8160 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidelsea1296 i'm talking about leadership. Lol. Rings arent everything. If seeding doesnt exist, nash would have atleast 1 championship.
@ElephanteInTheRoom
@ElephanteInTheRoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@therandomguy8160 “rings aren’t everything” lol you made two of the dumbest arguments I’ve ever heard lmao
@holyarchangelmichael
@holyarchangelmichael 3 жыл бұрын
Nash absolutely deserved both MVPs. He improved the Suns so much even when other key players like Stoudemire were out with injuries. His impact was ridiculous. The Suns are my second team since I was born in Arizona and Nash certainly deserved to win MVP in 2005 and 2006.
@RyanSheeran
@RyanSheeran Жыл бұрын
Kobe deserved 2006 MVP. He got 45 wins with the worst supporting roster possible and probably added 35 wins himself.
@greatest515
@greatest515 8 ай бұрын
Hell No
@s_ame1135
@s_ame1135 2 жыл бұрын
Having watched NBA since the 90s, 2000 to 2010 is probably the best decade in the NBA I have seen. 1. Balanced offensive and defensive playstyle (where a plethora of two-way HOFers played in this era). 2. Balanced inside and outside game (The time were post players were still respected while other players are transitioning to three-pointers). 3. One of the best if not the best draft class of all time (2003). 4. Boston vs Lakers, arguably the best rivalry in the NBA, were back in the Finals. 5. Olympics Redeem team are formed in this era (arguably in the same spot as the Dream Team). 6. An underrated team shocked the world and won a championship (Pistons). 7. MJ, Kobe, and Bron played in this era (arguably top 3 all-time). 8. Top 4 all-time SGs played in this era (MJ, Kobe, Wade, AI). 9. Top PF of all time played in this era (Duncan). 10. Most dominant player of all time played in this era (Shaq). 11. Best dunker of all time played in this era (Vince Carter). 12. Coaches with the most wins all-time are still coaching (Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, Pat Riley, Larry Brown, Jerry Sloan, and Don Nelson).
@northerniggy8261
@northerniggy8261 3 жыл бұрын
Nash's best skill was his ability to make all 5 players on the court play at or near their best.. something other NBA 'stars' don't quite achieve, and almost none at Nash's level with a few rare exceptions. Nash on the court.. for the coach.. was like having instant play-making in the fly without the lag-delay. Nash knew how to create, react and lead by example. Rare bird in any sport.. NBA was a better organization because of him. Looking forward to seeing what Nash can do as a coach.
@Xx_Jason_yY
@Xx_Jason_yY 3 жыл бұрын
I never doubted Nash's mvps because he is the definition of anti-statsketball (what we do today , looking only at stats ) the impact he had was sth else...
@trcs3079
@trcs3079 3 жыл бұрын
Steven Nash was my idol back in the 2000's. I mimicked his play style, albeit my shooting was like 0.7% 😂
@wobbafett2464
@wobbafett2464 3 жыл бұрын
andy you should've mentioned that prior to the rule changes, jerry colangelo was consulted by the NBA on how to fasten the game and his suggestions were approved by the NBA by all accts isn't that odd that the phx suns were the most prepared and equipped to handle these changes going into the season? that's kind of like knowing the questions beforehand during a big important exam?
@marcelocunha3894
@marcelocunha3894 3 жыл бұрын
I loved to watch that Suns team playing.
@foocw
@foocw 3 жыл бұрын
of course nash deserved his mvps. because he brought two different kinds of value to his team. he wasn't just a one-man army like the other superstars of his time winning games on their own (which, given his shiftiness and shooting, he was definitely capable of if he wanted), he made everyone around him better. he wasn't making the team better by simply winning more for his team, his team won more because he made his team-mates better. he was the brain and heartbeat of his team. he turned a bunch of misfits into contenders. he made his team's system work. because he was the system. so yeah, best player in the league? definitely no. but most valuable to a team? absolutely.
@SethKasso
@SethKasso 3 жыл бұрын
Won 2, deserved both. But people see big scoring numbers and turn braindead like "Ooo Shiny".
@yvans.
@yvans. 3 жыл бұрын
@Ayuub Nur no he shouldn’t have necessary won that was debatable between Nash and Dirk go rewatch again the video
@SethKasso
@SethKasso 3 жыл бұрын
@Ayuub Nur I feel the lack of Stoudemire explains the wins difference.
@terrymorgan5304
@terrymorgan5304 3 жыл бұрын
@Ayuub Nur And Dirk's team wasn't just as great during the time either? Don't get me wrong, I agree that Dirk deserved it more in 06, but isn't basketball supposed to be a TEAM sport?
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 3 жыл бұрын
@Ayuub Nur Joe Johnson wasn’t on the suns in 2006. And Nash made Boris Diaw.
@johnlindsay7301
@johnlindsay7301 Жыл бұрын
Nash is so underrated. He was the Wayne Gretzky of the NBA. A true basketball genius.
@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@JohnSmith-oe5kx Жыл бұрын
I agree that he is now underrated, considering all of the attacks on him in recent years.
@JoEs_Do9
@JoEs_Do9 6 ай бұрын
Steve Nash is highly underrated if someone were to play like him today. They would be goated
@yvans.
@yvans. 3 жыл бұрын
Shaq gotta be careful more and more people who did like his personality begin to be turn-off by his pettiness.
@adrianbalajadia8865
@adrianbalajadia8865 3 жыл бұрын
People don't appreciate players like him who make others good but they appreciate him when he's not playing anymore.
@jingqi9106
@jingqi9106 9 ай бұрын
Was turned the Suns around, he changed the game of NBA basketball for the better, and Nash played like an all-time great point guard, which he was. Did Nash deserve the MVP? ABSOLUTELY
@bruceli5726
@bruceli5726 3 жыл бұрын
Nash is the man he got hacked in the playoffs and still come up big. Not to mention he is one of the best shooter in the league
@lawrenceestabillo1754
@lawrenceestabillo1754 3 жыл бұрын
"He won 2 MVPs because of white privilege" - SAS
@terrymorgan5304
@terrymorgan5304 3 жыл бұрын
lol Seriously though, that was just petty of him to bring up race in the conversation.
@wiiiz3
@wiiiz3 3 жыл бұрын
SAS? as in San Antonio Spurs?
@terrymorgan5304
@terrymorgan5304 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiiiz3 *Stephen A. Smith
@wiiiz3
@wiiiz3 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrymorgan5304 thank you
@b.w.8909
@b.w.8909 3 жыл бұрын
If you think Nash didn‘t deserve his MVPs you have no basketball knowledge
@Simon-nv5zj
@Simon-nv5zj 3 ай бұрын
Steve Nash is the name I give when I want to illustrate to someone that stats dont always give you a clear insight as to how good a player someone is. Nash is just that. Yes, he deserved both (It was close)
@ozzyjimenez9017
@ozzyjimenez9017 17 күн бұрын
Great video! I was also curious about his MVP wins when you hear all the time that he stole them from Kobe or Shaq. I always thought that the MVP was given to the player with the best record so I was confused when I saw that there were teams with better records in 2006 and no one on those teams got the award. Thanks for explaining.
@geopadilla4312
@geopadilla4312 3 жыл бұрын
Early gang wya
@lindenmcdiarmid2009
@lindenmcdiarmid2009 3 жыл бұрын
Shaq has such a fragile ego. Between this and his beef with dwight the dude is a baby.
@TheJanvicgwaps
@TheJanvicgwaps 3 жыл бұрын
7:53 Imagine winning 60 games and you get the 4th seed 😂😂😭😭
@-legacy-378
@-legacy-378 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Chambers, forgotten Superstar for the suns in the early 90s. I don’t know much about his career and I’d love to see a video on him
@Leo-jk9vt
@Leo-jk9vt 3 жыл бұрын
Guys repent from your sins Jesus Christ is coming back soon you don’t want to be left behind.
@stephenkimble-chrildess1767
@stephenkimble-chrildess1767 3 жыл бұрын
@@chad_b facts
@austinsloane903
@austinsloane903 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid Andy. I honestly thought Nash didn't deserve his 06 MVP because of Kobe's insane 06 campaign. But after watching this video with the added context, he definitely earned the MVP (though I still would've chosen Kobe if that makes sense lol)
@JuanTonSoupXP
@JuanTonSoupXP 3 жыл бұрын
Robbed Kobe and the league just let it happen 🥱
@muhammedadnan9393
@muhammedadnan9393 3 жыл бұрын
Nop
@alexescutia4805
@alexescutia4805 3 жыл бұрын
How you gonna win mvp as a 7 seed
@blablablabla2572
@blablablabla2572 3 жыл бұрын
Kobe wasn't robbed look at his team record stats are not everything you definitly don't know anything about ball just because he's Kobe don't mean he has to be the mvp
@eljeffe6475
@eljeffe6475 3 жыл бұрын
Nash 100% deserved his first MVP. I also he Dirk deserved his 2nd MVP but it is close. The ultimate NBA IQ test is to ask someone about Steve Nash's MVPs if they say he deserved niether and they should have gone to Shaq and Kobe then you know they are a casual
@123FUG33
@123FUG33 Жыл бұрын
“I have one, Kobe has one, Nash has two? Something about that math is not right.” -Shaq
@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@JohnSmith-oe5kx Жыл бұрын
Math is not Shaq's strong suit... I think it is crazy that Shaq came so close in 2005, considering that the Suns improved more under Nash than the Heat improved under Shaq, and the Suns were more reliant on Nash than the Heat were on Shaq.
@PATRIOTTTT
@PATRIOTTTT Жыл бұрын
Steve Nash was not an MVP over shah and Kobe....dude has no rings...aka Great white hope unfortunately. Unlike Jokic who actually deserved it.
@waters228_91
@waters228_91 Жыл бұрын
And what do rings have to do with an MVP award?
@Juugrichkory
@Juugrichkory 10 ай бұрын
What do rings have to do with being an mvp
@findingcuh5129
@findingcuh5129 3 жыл бұрын
Kobe snubbed
@brucelau2023
@brucelau2023 3 жыл бұрын
FOR sure
@VictorFernandezBigdestroyer
@VictorFernandezBigdestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll get you banned from KZbin for saying that when LA didn’t win that many games
@findingcuh5129
@findingcuh5129 3 жыл бұрын
@@VictorFernandezBigdestroyer lmao
@findingcuh5129
@findingcuh5129 3 жыл бұрын
Kids weird
@VictorFernandezBigdestroyer
@VictorFernandezBigdestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@findingcuh5129 I’ll get you banned from KZbin for laughing at me for what I said.
@pandepokemon123
@pandepokemon123 3 жыл бұрын
You should cover the story of the Hall of Famer Nikos Galis one (if not the best) player who never played in the NBA due to a bad agent
@munir9527
@munir9527 2 жыл бұрын
If robert horry didnt hipcheck Nash in 2007 he might have a ring
@zKMotion
@zKMotion 3 жыл бұрын
Bye Trump
@wondermcthunder8835
@wondermcthunder8835 3 жыл бұрын
Final request make a video on Sam Cassel role player with the championship rockets and Celtics and formed 2 “big 3s” in Minnesota with Spreewell and Garnett. And in Milwaukee with Big dog Robinson and Ray Allen
@VictorRivera-eb4md
@VictorRivera-eb4md 3 жыл бұрын
Hello friend, Im a big fan of your videos, but I have a lot of questions about teams drafting a lot of over seas players high in the lottery that now this days make no sense, like mouhamed sene in 2006 or fran vazquez in 2005, It'll be a great topic for a video.
@danusmc3
@danusmc3 3 жыл бұрын
his stats were arguably even better on the 3rd MVP run.
@davidebaso6994
@davidebaso6994 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that voters and people should rethink all the "seed is important" question. The team record isn't inportant alone on his own, it wouldn't make any sense, it plays a part beacause if you're a great player your team wins beacause of you. For example this year the Bucks would be very much worse without Giannis but he is so good he makes his team win the games. Team record is a stat that has to be contextualized. The situation Kobe had in '06 was completely different that the one Nash had, you gotta look at how that team record was set not just look at it and make assumption, it would be looking at FG% and saying Deandre Jordan is the most efficient scorer ever beacause he had a season with 70%. Or maybe you prefer not giving MVP to Dirk who lead a worse team to 60 wins just beacause some horrible rules made them the 4th seed. It doesn't make any sense
@bencarlson4300
@bencarlson4300 2 жыл бұрын
If you told voters now that Steve Nash would win more MVP’s than Kobe, Shaq, Dirk, D Wade, Garnett, etc… they would probably change their minds and give one or both to somebody else. That’s not how it works, though.
@ShniitSchneyder
@ShniitSchneyder 3 жыл бұрын
love your videos bra, always a celebration when you post! ...yes I'm a little ashamed I just said "bra".
@matthewbyrd8174
@matthewbyrd8174 3 жыл бұрын
So happy someone paying respect to nash man
@wondermcthunder8835
@wondermcthunder8835 3 жыл бұрын
Make a video on Eddie Jones the lakers “shooting guard of the future” before he wasn’t the shooting guard of the future😬 RIP KOBE!!
@johnnyfelipe8260
@johnnyfelipe8260 2 жыл бұрын
Well now seeing the stats top in assists, 51% field goal, 43% 3 points, 90% fts and improved Suns to perennial conternders in the West I think he deserved it
@allstar965
@allstar965 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think many people realize what an incredible scorer Nash was.. In my honest opinion he can be a 30 PPG scorer when he wants to but chooses to draw defensive attention and kick it out to open teammates instead. People said he was lucky to play alongside Stoudamire but stoudamire was the worst defender in the league during those years and constantly scored off of incredible assists by Nash.. Perfect mix of offensive load and a high IQ.. just what could've happened if he had a good team..
@alexescutia4805
@alexescutia4805 3 жыл бұрын
Lebrons definitely opened my eyes to valuing floor generals and dudes who can run your whole offense like no one else can few players coulda elevated the suns to the level their offense hit
@alvinnangcas5321
@alvinnangcas5321 Жыл бұрын
Straight yes! Well deserved! Made a 29-53 win team the previous year turn into a 62-20 team when he arrived with only him as the new player added to the same roster and he did even better the next year with amare stoudemire injured. Plus he made the game more fun to watch! Plus its called Most Valuable player award. He was the most valuable player for his team making them so successful for those 2 years. MVP is not a Best Individual Stat and efficiency for the season award 😅 they can maybe make that award someday but if it did exist yes of course steve nash wouldn’t win it
@vandellmosley7820
@vandellmosley7820 2 жыл бұрын
Epic. Elite.
@ndl6827
@ndl6827 3 жыл бұрын
To put this in perspective for those who never got to see Steve play, he made everyone around him better. It didn’t matter what team you put him on or where, he had an instant and amazing impact.
@RealNewsMMA
@RealNewsMMA Жыл бұрын
Heard people saying a few weeks back that they thought it was mostly because he was white and/or the people voting were white. I did not follow basketball then, never really have. But I’m Canadian and remember Steve Nash on sportscentre throughout my youth, watching I’m make unbelievable passes time after time.
@peytonlong5573
@peytonlong5573 2 жыл бұрын
Deserve?? He earned that shit he literally made that team and he did it in his 30’s, people who say he didn’t deserve it just go off of what Shaq has said about it and look just solely at the stats I swear
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