Did Tag Der Toten FAIL The Zombies Community?!

Tag Der Toten wrapped up the Aether Storyline in Black Ops 4 nearly half a decade ago... What was going on at the time of the maps release? What was Treyarch up against in terms of satisfying the community? And how has the map faired all of these years later?
This is a Tag Der Toten Retrospective
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Timestamps:
Intro 00:00
Map History 03:02
Map Retrospective 07:52
Gameplay 35:53
Side Modes 55:25
Conclusion 56:53
Chapter Contents:
Intro
Map History (Operation Dark Divide)
Map Retrospective (Art Design, Narrative, & Main Quest)
Gameplay (Wonder Weapons, High Rounds, & Side Quests)
Side Modes (Rush & Gauntlet)
Conclusion
[Subcategories: Call of the Dead, Zombies Comics, Spawn Locations, Nikolai's Grand Scheme, Gameplay Movement, Golden Pack-a-Punch, Enemy Types, & Hermit Challenge Totems]
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@GregFPS
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Artwork: @Hybs
#CallofDuty #Zombies #blackops4 #aetherstoryline

[@Zephy3602]

This guy could make the worst zombies map in history sound like a top 10 map with his commentary and I love it Also I’m not saying Tag der toten is the worst zombies map I’m just saying how good his commentary is

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

I keep reading this comment over and over bc it's so inspiring to me. Thank you so much man... I can't even tell you how much this means to me.

[@Zephy3602]

@@AfterlifeAnalysis glad I could make you happy dude! Honestly it makes me happy that someone likes to dig deep into details about how cod zombies makes people feel in terms of like lore and aesthetic like I do, same thing goes with backstory and lore for cod zombies bc there’s so much of it and it’s hard too keep up, but I’ve learnt so much about it aswell and surprisingly some KZbinrs like you talk about cod zombies adding niche parts about ww2 like der rise being a actual secret enemy base on the German side where they tried to make high tech weaponry, etc

[@TheDarkYoshi64]

Not a bad map but an incredibly disappointing “finale”. Can easily tell it was rushed out the door.

[@PR1ME98]

That was my issue! Its so blatantly obvious they designed this map with a… “ugh let’s just get this over with 😒” type of attitude.

[@nashzahm]

Thats what budget cuts will do sadly. They clearly wanted a big battle when Alpha Omega was being written but when the team was sent to make Cold War, they had to make do with a small team.

[@KadenHartley]

Actually the opposite for me. Good ending but lackluster map building and not just tag but the others as well just because all of them are re imagining maps, which we should of had new maps especially being the last chapter

[@gabeshaffer5444]

the video where the voices of the crew got together for the last time had me crying back in 2018 loved this story so much

[@krownwave]

these vids are insanely well made for such a small channel, mad props man

[@a_boynamed_sir]

doing the "every EE ever" thing and getting all challenges/calling cards and just got back to BlOps4 man this map is so hot and cold for me

[@TheBuster0926]

Do you plan on doing WW2's The Tortured Path on PC? I want that MFin Sword.

[@a_boynamed_sir]

@@TheBuster0926 yea doing them all but on PS5 for all that i have and then probably hopping on my buddies PC for the older ones

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Sorry for calling you an idiot, bruv. Idk if you saw my message on the other thread.

[@gingie365]

I keep looking at the channel page, expecting a second channel or something like that. These videos are done like so professionally, and they highlight a lot of good that some zombies tubers, at least in my experience, would not talk about. Keep it up my dude, can't wait for the rest 🤘

[@devacookiekun]

I LOVE THESE VIDS IVE BEEN BINGE WATCHING ALL THESE AND THEYRE SO AMAZINGLY MADE THEN I SAW THE SUB COUND AND IM LIKE WHAAA?? HOWW? THESE VIDEOS ARE SOOO BRILLIANTLY MADE I LOVE THESEE

[@jaredmedina6124]

Your commentary is genuinely amazing. Maybe you should do a full timeline video.

[@segaboy16]

Honestly i really wish the story just had some more breathing room bc i love how they decided to end the story but it just felt like it happened way too quickly

[@shrekdonkeyfiona2246]

I disagree that the starting room is uninspired. I think its very symbolic, "tag der toten" or day of the dead is meant to show a new beginning or a close to that 10-year story that started with "nacht der Untoten" night of the living dead. And, like you previously mentioned in your video, there is something special about staring off into the distance of the sun setting/rising. I think this was done purposefully to make the player feel a little nostalgia and emotion towards it being the end or a new begining

[@olliegreen9320]

dude your videos are insanely good! keep it up! any chance you’d be doing any other maps after black ops 4?

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Yeah definitely!

[@simonalamillo8683]

Man your speech at the end almost had me in tears😢

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

I'm glad you felt the emotion I felt. Pretty powerful huh? I was ending this retro and I felt that same feeling. It's nice to know someone else out there feels it too.

[@AiRsTrIkExXzZ]

I personally really like this map. For me it has a somber tone, like we know it’s the end but we have 1 final journey to go on. I like the EE too since there are those campfire bits which just add to the already somber tone and the ending is pretty good, for me atleast, since it does what it should’ve done. It made us want them to come back and/or have a heroes ending instead of being killed off with no one watching even though that was the point in the story. It’s what nikolai says. Even if there was no one there to witness it and tell stories of it, it still happened somewhere out theres

[@hoked2194]

Tag der Toten is like reverse Dead Money. While Dead Money's theme of "letting go" is completely subverted by players being smart, people still agree that it was a cool ending with a cool message. Tag, on the other hand, has an inevitable bitter ending that bascally forces players to let go by sticking all their cool memories into the garbage disposal, and a lot of people hate it. Even though Dead Money is basically a meme ending, it's infinitely better at telling players to "let go", because it doesn't force anything.

[@WalcolmX]

THE BEST ZOMBIES KZbinR FR I HAVE BEEN REALLY ENJOYING YOUR CONTENT SO UNDERRATED KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK KING ❤

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Appreciate you brother. Thank you!

[@dipsterjr]

do you have a second channel or something or maybe deleted previous videos? cause I've never seen top quality like this instantly. Genius!

[@angeltoshirox7328]

I can’t believe I watched that cut scene again 😭😭😭 this shit hits so hard it’s really sad. I hate how it ended but it is wut it is man at least we got 1 last ride of nostalgia.

[@Mooki66]

W video keep it up😪maybe make a video on why ZC2 can’t happen or why ZC was a phenomenon that can’t be replicated

[@armando_the_pianist3026]

Get this man more subs he deserves it

[@mrmikron]

Love these retrospectves.

[@nashzahm]

Tag's gameplay and Easter Egg steps are great. My only gripe is the ending

[@hannanah8036]

i agree the sombre slow quiet end was the perfect way to end everything. No matter what a great war map would've been disappointing

[@SaLaJim1010]

U havent watched cj santas video on tag he explain why its so perfect

[@N8B98]

It’s crazy that no one has mentioned the fact that George Romero passed away before this map released. I do agree with you that story wise and gameplay wise, George wouldn’t have fit, but even if treyarch wanted to, they couldn’t include him so having the characters say a line about how influential he was hits harder

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

There is always a give and take in terms of what I decide to talk about. I want to talk about everything, but at the end of the day, each topic adds up. I had initially written a whole section about COTD and George, but I ultimately decided to remove it because it was just too unrelated. But I agree George's passing was super important to this map's debut.

[@bloodenigma5779]

hey ive been looking for proof of the activision shanghai completing tag der toten do you have any sources for this as i would like to see that its not that i disbelieve it its just good to have that

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

I see your comment and I’m going out of town atm but I will show my evidence later. I also have a “source” so there is a bit of ‘trust me bro’ here but I will show some other evidence and explain a bit further. Feel free to bug me in a couple days if I forget.

[@cole.1]

You forget?

[@spook6473]

​@@cole.1forgor☠️

[@makutakretta7516]

Hey I’m interested 😅

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

@cole.1 yes I did forget.

[@juanestebanrodriguez9057]

Great video, sincerely I was so dissapointed with the ending I only played the map twice and uninstalled black ops 4, zombies was a really special mode that has morphed into something I really dislike, they really fumbled the bag releasing this and making it seem so rushed, a true shame

[@marloncarpio8311]

I really wanted the Great War map...

[@PiousPuddle]

The sad part is not only did actvision practically destroy what the original plans of black ops 4 wanted. But the ending and sacrifices the characters made and meaning behind it, has been destroyed as well Due to the forceful existence of Cold War, vanguard and mw3 zombies.

[@ComaAlpha]

I wanted the chaos story to last longer

[@grimnewt89]

Underrated

[@ThatsEvenBetterBrad]

Got recommended to me 🎉

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Thank you for watching!

[@eggeggs0]

nice video

[@milosbrkanovic948]

Day 3000 of sending presidents choice skeptix my condolences and hoping he’s back soon.

[@RealRaZoR]

To this day i think its criminal how bo4 turned out and that we didnt get a great war map before the story ended. The premise was realy special and i apreciate that. But i feel like it ended to early and not "bombastic" enough.

[@sockendieb88hh36]

Is this a new channel?

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Was just testing some videos from skeptix seeing how they would do on a channel with 0 subscribers.

[@sockendieb88hh36]

@@AfterlifeAnalysis do u have permission for that?

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Sorry, I didn't clarify well, it is me (Alex owner of Skeptix). I am experimenting here.

[@sockendieb88hh36]

Oh okay good to hear thought someone was stealing your content

[@Mattyp789]

Keep making videos bro you’re making me want to reinstall bo4

[@ComaAlpha]

What if Nik was wrong? He just killed himself (had Sam kill her whatever) and the zombie thing is still going.

[@InsertNameHere.1719]

Tag is a solid 7.7 outta 10

[@biz117]

yeah

[@carlitos5061]

How many “der toten” maps are there? Could they not come up with anymore german names?

[@Civility1]

in this case it means "day of the dead" which is an homage to the George Romero film so it gets a pass from me

[@warv6552]

It means “of the Dead” which is commonly used in many English named maps aswell

[@scribblenaughttv]

Commenting for the algorithm. Your lack of subs is criminal

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Would love to get to 50k one day. 100k is my ultimate goal. But we shall see. One video at a time.

[@anshulmeshram1871]

"The Aether is banished where it belongs" meaning it still exists. I don't know if Cold War Zombies or MWZ are continuation to that exact Aether since I don't follow it's story but if they aren't Treyarch can create a different story with the Primis characters, not a spin off or a soft reboot. It can be something to do with some kind of fracture in the timeline that caused that storyline.

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Yeah I suppose this is true. I often wonder if they will bring back a reboot of the old characters. I can definitely see Richtofen coming back. But I think it would be such a disservice to the story. Although the Dark Aether nonsense is garbage but that's a conversation for another day.

[@DanielBech97]

@@AfterlifeAnalysis At least we know that there is a version of Richtofen in the new storyline, as Eddie grown up. But considering that everything before CW was banished to the Dark Aether, there may be some of Primis and Ultimis inside of it in some shape or another.

[@jackjackson3125]

They should just say F it and apologise for making CW, VG and MW2023 and just say they're reverting the story back to pre revelations. I think the entire gaming community would have respect if they prioritised player demand over what makes a logical story.

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

@@jackjackson3125 honestly. I'd be fine with that. Haha

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

@@DanielBech97 I don't disagree with any of that. I just don't think it will happen. But it would be awesome.

[@Ohdj-rt2dx]

i don’t remember this map all the way down to the name, failure

[@raoul.__.r3363]

Yes. It’s not bad Just nothing short from disappointing

[@5rhg]

yes...yes it did

[@bryanbanshoman301]

lol remember when we thought margwas would be in this map

[@AfterlifeAnalysis]

Hahah me too actually - I forgot about it until you just brought it up!

[@MrOperatorGamer]

Bo4 zombies was terrible sad to say but true

[@Kyledoggs]

I love bo4, I would put it as the best zombies game but nothing can beat bo3

[@raoul.__.r3363]

For me it’s my second favorite zombies game after bo3 It got great maps The only bad thing is the disappointment of not getting a season 2

[@kameronkueck7935]

I hated it at the time. I never played most of the maps but I’m trying to go back and give it another chance. The storyline is just so weird

[@TrollographyStudios]

When did the devs and story writers start smoking crack pipes? and why does BO4 zombies feel like a ADHD fever dream?

[@Kyledoggs]

Tag der toten is easily a top 10 map of all time, and it also by far has the best graphics for a map, just beautiful, say what you want about the cutscenes but you gotta admit that it’s an awesome map, the round change music is awesome

[@CERRYGREENBAY]

I like the map. It’s fine. But it’s inoffensive. It played it too safe.

[@waterhose8467]

Chaos is that you? No but seriously though I mean the map is fine but honestly the graphics doesn't seem that much different than BO3 I like BO3 better due to it having a better HUD. And better lighting.

[@yagirljasmine7882]

While yes this map/finale was a rushed one, I personally see it as a good outcome with how everything happened behind the scenes and I actually enjoyed the ending, but damn it still hurts seeing the old crews story end after so long...

[@StraighOutaJerz]

tag is a better call of the dead

[@mrcrowthebird9836]

True

[@armando_the_pianist3026]

Nope not a chance man but its still pretty good

[@StraighOutaJerz]

@@armando_the_pianist3026 in what way is call of the dead better? The only thing call of the dead has on tag are characters and George being a boss but other then that tag did everything else way better

[@gaskinforeman303]

No it isn't.

[@gaskinforeman303]

​@StraighOutaJerz Better guns, better perk system, better story, better easter egg, better spawn room, better atmosphere, better ee song, and don't act like George A. Romero isn't the best boss in all of cod zombies.