Did The Ref Save Fury?

Round 9 in Usyk vs Fury was filled with action and drama.
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[@samwarrilow2881]

Either stop the fight or let Usyk finish him off. Fury got the MAJOR benefit of the doubt

[@andyelliott8027]

Read the comments explaining the rules of boxing, you're just making up your own.

[@kosmique]

the video just explained it correctly.

[@samwarrilow2881]

@@kosmique It’s one interpretation yes. But frankly the ropes stopped Fury falling on a least three occasions before the ref decided it was now time to step in - just as Usyk had a big left hand cocked and was flying towards Fury.

[@Paul-q3m7k]

The ref waited until he collapsed and fell Into the ropes . Leaning on the ropes isn’t the same as falling down hanging up from the ropes . It’s not an interpretation …the ref followed the rules

[@samwarrilow2881]

@@Paul-q3m7k If I’m honest I’m conflicted about it. Because as much as I know that the ref probably did the right thing, at the same time I can’t help but think that if Usyk was taking this many headshots in a sustained attack and was falling around like a drunk that the ref would have waved it off. Fury always seems to get the benefit of the doubt time after time. He made it this far with an unbeaten record by the skin of teeth and through a series of very favourable ref decisions

[@oleksandrhrehul1595]

Fury : "I won the fight. Happy new year!" 😂😂😂

[@c-4839]

The barrage of punches must've made the chap feel like new year fireworks 🎇🎆🧨 Don't blame him😅

[@Will051]

I thought the same when he said it but after watching Usyk list the family occasions he missed while training I'm now given Fury the benefit of it been a reminder of how much they sacrificed for this fight, they couldn't celebrate the new year till now.

[@scroopynooperz9051]

​@@Will051lol nah that definitely wasnt it. He literally thought it was January

[@pavlos1048]

@@Will051Thought the same thing. Since he was dizzy from all the punches it’s possible he wanted to say something like that and it just came out weird-sounding

[@ollie3428]

Nah, that ref dont need defending. He tried to pull Usyks arm down as the fight was going on and gave him a way longer count. That ref should never ref again. I wonder how much money he lost that night

[@Paul-q3m7k]

Haha you guys are such babies . The ref did the right thing . Get over it

[@ollie3428]

@@Paul-q3m7k ok sure thing soldier

[@freedom4life123]

@@Paul-q3m7k cope

[@cherylcollette6736]

How was it a long count (serious question)?

[@Robert399]

When did he do that? If you mean at 3:14, that's normal: once you've decided to step in (to give a count or for a low blow or whatever), you're supposed to stop any further action.

[@dispater101]

I like that he didn't wave it off, but you could clearly see moments where he just straight up prevented Usyk from throwing more shots

[@generalkang1969]

referees do that all the time -- ALL THE TIME -- in fights, in situations where it was less legitimate than this

[@Robert399]

You mean at 3:14? That's normal: once you've decided to step in (to give a count or for a low blow or whatever), you're supposed to stop any further action.

[@KristoforusBagaskara]

@@Robert399 no, it's when Usyk was chasing the stumbling Fury. You could see Usyk pushed the ref lightly.

[@generalkang1969]

@@Robert399 that is exactly what I mean - the guy doing the video says that if the ropes were not there, the ref would've had to step in, but if the ropes were not there Fury would have been on the canvas.. Usyk also stopped at the command of the ref --- people say that the ref stopped him making it sound like he physically intervened, but that punch was not on its way anyway, because (hard as it is to imagine) Usyk was "obeying the ref's commands at all times"

[@HODthunderwolf]

@@Robert399NOOOOO NOT AT FKN 3:14. At 1:53. LOOK AT THAT TIME CODE AND STOP DICK RIDING THE REF. Usyk lands a big left. Rolls under Fury’s right, then the ref grabs Usyk’s left arm to stop him throwing another but does NOT stop the action. He interfered with the fight but didn’t stop it that is NOT normal. Honestly your performative ignorance is painful to read

[@billhoggy4461]

Ref kept grabbing usyk hand befor the knock down to stop him unloading on tyson

[@kosmique]

he didnt grab and he didnt keep doing so. he awkwardly grazed his arms. idk wtf that was either but people are doing too much over this lol... it had absolutely no effect.

[@K_j_M]

​@@kosmiquehe did it at least once

[@Scrooks1]

Fury WAS NOT intelligently defending himself. His gloves were completely down at his sides when the ref. Jumped in and stopped it. The fight got improperly stopped because it was Fury that was down and not Usyk.

[@jesusalfredo88]

he was rolling with the punches and moving all over the ring, how is that not protecting himself

[@Scrooks1]

@@jesusalfredo88 just before the stoppage, Fury’s gloves are hanging straight down. Watch the film fanboy. If it had been Usyk in trouble, that ref. Would not have stopped the fight. Why did the Ref. Wait until the bell ended the round, why did Fury get that extra 8-10 seconds of wait before the bell ending the 9th round? Was that a courtesy wait?, What was that? Where is that rule in the boxing rule book?

[@jesusalfredo88]

@@Scrooks1 it is actually a rule that if the ropes prevent you from falling it can be determined to be a standing count, did you not see this video where he explained it clearly?

[@Scrooks1]

@@jesusalfredo88 this guy is not a boxing expert and no, when a fighter is slumped against the lower ropes with his gloves down at his sides, the correct call is a stoppage by TKO, not a count then a wait until the bell ends the round. Completely violates the current rules.

[@maxwellsdemon10]

⁠did you actually read the rules? I am certainly not an expert when it comes to boxing rules, but from what I read if a fighter gets hit and the ropes prevent the fighter from falling to the ground, then it is considered a knockdown. A ref CAN call it off, just as he can call it off after any knockdown, but he is not required to do so. That does make sense doesn't it? Why should it be considered a TKO, just because a fighter falls into the ropes and not the canvas? The fighter couldn't hold his balance because of the effect of a punch, then that's a knockdown. That's what happened here.

[@redordead4491]

Ref jumped in to save Fury so did the scorecards.

[@redordead4491]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j you just explained Fury posture.

[@angele6733]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j You mean fell into the ropes..He'd of been on the floor otherwise.

[@sirjohnmandeville7488]

He lost I don't see how they saved him exactly.

[@andyelliott8027]

If that hadn't been called as a knockdown the scorecards would have been a draw.

[@redordead4491]

@@andyelliott8027 go score the fight again Fury won the 6th he didn't out land Usyk in any other round and held the centre of the ring.

[@ashleyhawkins8232]

I'm one of tysons biggest fans and he was near gone his eyes were rolling if the ref didn't jump in I think he would of being knocked threw the ropes very lucky

[@keysersoze8592]

His eyes rolled as soon as he got hit with the two piece that stunned him lol

[@ashleyhawkins8232]

@@keysersoze8592 yep that left made em roll alright

[@jesusalfredo88]

he was more hurt in the first wilder fight, he seemed out during that knockdown and recovered well, this time he was hurt but he was actively trying to recover, he ended up falling into the ropes, thus the kd

[@kargetina]

It was a terrible decision by the ref. The ropes were holding Fury three times before he stepped in, and he didn't react to the previous three times. He only reacted once Fury was on the verge of getting face planted. Then, he gave him 20 seconds to recover until the end of the round, basically giving him a second life/extra coin in arcade terms, in exchange for the loss of one point on the scorecards. Fury was out, and it either should have been a TKO, or Usyk should have been given the chance to knock him out in the final 20 seconds of the round. He was probably one good shot away from doing it.

[@topsuperseven7910]

He reacted the moment the ONLY thing holding Fury was that his upper body was tangled and held by the ropes. The Ref made a perfect decision. The Referee's 'ten count' is not 10 seconds but his 'count' which is for the Referee to be able to examine a fighter long enough (for the ref) to determine if its safe for him to continue.

[@topsuperseven7910]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j There was no 8-count. no, there is no rule about being 'must be knocked to the canvas' lol.. just stop

[@topsuperseven7910]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j no lol

[@maxwellsdemon10]

⁠look at Fury at the end of the sequence. He isn't standing on his feet anymore, he is literally in a 45 degree angle, knees bend, not able to stand on his own. To me, that's a man helplessly, only being held up by the ropes.

[@victoraire378]

A perfect decision to give Fury a life line, you mean

[@relevantbrother8964]

When the ropes initially saved him from going down, Fury was no longer able to defend him himself. When Usyk attacked again Fury's arms were down at his sides and his legs were gone.. That should have been the end of the fight and a tko win to Usyk,not a standing count.

[@jesusalfredo88]

how was he not defending? was rolling with the shots and he was moving all over the ring to defend himself lol. Usyk won fair n square but it was not the beatdown everyone is talking about

[@zizzybugatti8819]

I share the same view. Usyk should have been declared winner in that moment

[@JackTenrec-qk4zp]

@@jesusalfredo88 he was DONE in that corner, if Usyk was allowed to finish him, it would look like Morrison VS Mercer, he wasn't intelligently defending himself and was taking clean unanswered punches

[@robertmullan9308]

😂Usak won the fight by TKO

[@jesusalfredo88]

@@JackTenrec-qk4zp he was still defending, moving around and rolling with punches, if he was out in his feet he would not have finished rounds 10, 11 and 12 which he did. I wanted Usyk to win but rules are rules

[@benjamin_fdw]

I'm sorry but at 1:52 you can clearly see the ref pulling Usyk's left arm to force a disengagement while he could have/was about to throw a hook. IMO the ref was bias and helped Tyson Fury getting out of troubles. Either you call a TKO or you do not intervene, but the round was about to end and it was unecessary from him to do this

[@Jon-Callahan]

Exactly most have missed this obstruction from the ref on Uysk. A man with 40-pound weight and a 6-inch height disadvantage was fighting not only Fury but the ref was obstructing and distracting his movement and path at critical moments.

[@alexanderkappelhoff2819]

Yeh this is wild, how are there not more people picking up on this.

[@Jon-Callahan]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j it's more like 1:54 check it closely, there is an overhead shot on other channels as well. Additionally and critically, Usyk hadn't landed a damaging blow on Fury for approximately four to five seconds before Fury stumbled into the corner. This stumble was self-induced as Fury tried to evade Usyk and move towards the corner; it was not caused by the force of a punch. This is the first time in championship boxing that a boxer has been given 20 seconds to recover by a ref after stumbling over himself while trying to evade the opponent.

[@benjamin_fdw]

​@user-bq9ow1wj4j just watch what happens from 1:52 to 1:54 you can clearly see the ref obstructing Usyk by holding his left arm during the exchange. Usyk just landed a left hook, rolled under Fury's right hook while fury his holding his head with his left arm and the ref is not trying to break and reset them, he litteraly comes and pull on Usyk's arm and drag him away from Fury while Fury is walking backward.

[@YeahNoTellTheTruth]

Nope. You clowns.

[@АндрійКовальов-д7и]

The ref did not allow Usyk to finish Fury...

[@robmule4647]

Usyk finished him after Fury fell at 45 degree angle knocked out in to the corner of the ring ie a knockdown and the count

[@BulletProof_Viking]

It was a standing count which means Fury was koed on the ropes.

[@dominicviner6619]

@@robmule4647Conor wasn’t as rocked and got stop to Floyd in that regard

[@wujmt5154]

Seen so many fights stopped for less.Its a stoppage.Fury was not able to defend himself.He threw nothing back.

[@Robert399]

You don't have to throw back for intelligent defence. Would you have stopped Ali against Foreman?

[@KevinJDildonik]

Title fights have different rules. Refs try their best to let the fight go on.

[@wujmt5154]

@@Robert399 intelligent defence? You are trying to compare ali to what happened there? Shut up, Fury was absolutley all over the show.DONE.

[@Robert399]

@@wujmt5154 No, I’m saying “he threw nothing back” is a meaningless argument.

[@TeacherDoug7]

@@wujmt5154 Obviously Fury wasn't done, because he came back and won the last round. If he was done, he wouldn't have been able to make any comeback at all. Boxing TRIES to give fighters a chance to come back, especially in championship fights. This isn't mma where most fights end in a sudden flurry of punches.

[@ТодорСтаматов-ъ4я]

The problem is first, he get 20 seconds count, and second if he wanted to give Fury the 8 standing count, he should have done it the first time Fury went to the ropes after being hurt. This was Fury 5-6 time. At this time you either let the guy finish him off, or wave the fight OFF. The referee was paid to do a job, aka protect Fury at all cost, and his done his part.

[@Idkchangethislater]

Yeah I’m not trying to be a hater but for an undisputed fight Ref intervention should be limited or else you get the “such a close fight [insert loser] got robbed” like this fight. I’ve seen refs wave of significantly less damage should’ve just let it continue or smth.

[@panamaharp]

There was no standing 8 count, just a regular knockdown and count. I thought Gabriel did a good job of explaining the differences between laying on the ropes and still defending yourself vs being out and the ropes holding you up. The referee would have been justified to stop the fight, but the way he handle it was justified as well.

[@Jwt-kb3yx]

@@panamaharp Well said sir.

[@Leadfoot_P71]

@@panamaharp Yeah people here are confusing leaning on the ropes and falling into the ropes, especially when you fall into the lower ropes. That's a knockdown.

[@panamaharp]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j. I’m sure you know that a judge can score a round 10-8 without a knockdown right? Or maybe you don’t know, or don’t care or don’t understand what that means. Anyway, you asked for the knockdown rule, here it is: An official knockdown is ruled in boxing when a fighter is punched and: a) a part of his/her body other than the feet touch the canvas (such as his butt or glove) b) when a fighter is being held up by the ropes (i.e. the fighter would have fallen had the ropes not been there) c) when a fighter is hanging on, through or over the ropes and d) cannot protect himself and, for whatever reason, is lodged on a position where he can't fall Your Welcome!

[@DenolaJibodu]

Why did the referee prevent Usyk from delivering the killer punch

[@JackTenrec-qk4zp]

he was instructed to defend the fat man at all cost, there are no standing 8 counts in boxing unified rules

[@publichealth9470]

We should thank the referee for saving Fury’s life, considering he is a father and husband with a life beyond boxing. In the 9th round, Fury was in serious trouble-his hands were down, he staggered like a drunk, and he seemed completely disoriented and defenceless. A few more punches from Usyk could have killed Fury.

[@yaddle92]

Because after knockdown you aren't supposed to hit your opponent. Fury was knocked down and held upright like a marionette by the ropes. Knockdown and 17 seconds of ten count later the round ended

[@publichealth9470]

@@JackTenrec-qk4zp 😃

[@TheChattounet]

Even tho i'ma Usyk fan i don't think the referee did bad. But I wonder if the referee would have done the same for Usyk...?

[@matthew-jy5jp]

What are you talking about ? If those ropes were there he would have been out of the arena 😂 And any other fight that would have been stopped. Tyson Was taking each punch on the face and not able to defend himself. And I will even go one step further and say Tyson will never have a rematch with uysk. He will buy his way out of that rematch you watch.

[@a.k2156]

I agree with you on most part. There is a moment where ref grabs Usyk for some reason. That was weird and bad action from him. Otherwise just a standard standing 8 count...just a smidge too long

[@Keboomrang]

the ''lowblow'' of dubois?

[@zwoope]

When Usyk started backing off after the uppercut in the 7th he started using the ref to block off some of the ring. If you start moving too fast for them sometimes they make a wrong guess where you are going and get in the way. It is what it is.

[@ArranVid]

The referee sucked. He allowed Fury to keep leaning and holding on Usyk...that is not fair on Usyk.

[@dzonibravo7867]

Usyk: beating Tysons head off, Tyson hands are hanging like puppet... This guy: Tyson is defending inteligently, roling with the punches... 😁

[@robmule4647]

Didn't happen, if it had the fight would have been stopped.

[@dzonibravo7867]

@@robmule4647 yes, it would have been stopped...if referee wasn't corrupted.

[@robmule4647]

@@dzonibravo7867 no the video clearly shows that if it were stopped the referee would have been wrong, possibly even corrupt. It sounds like Fury lives rent free in your head.

[@tickletorture]

@@robmule4647 Fury lost get over it. 😂😂 Dude was all over the place like a rag doll. 🤣🤣

[@kosmique]

he is rolling with the punches. he does have his guard up at least twice. he shows you the footage as he says it. and i have noticed it all before seeing this here vid myself. its a long ass scene, sure his arms are hanging for some time too... but he weaved rolled a lot too...he has his arms forward and extended with 2 of usyk's gloves caught up in his forearms. thats actually right before he goes down too. i dont know whats not to get. its all on freakin video.

[@np494609]

The knockdown is simply because fury fell into the ropes which held him up. It’s the same as a fighter taking a knee or using their fist to post on the ground to hold themselves up.

[@topsuperseven7910]

THANK YOU! I've been trying to explain this to online fans today. Yes, you are correct. there is no '8 count' anymore nor did the the ref give an '8 count' AND most importantly you are correct that the rule is when a fighter is only upright by the ring post or ring ropes holding them up it counts as a 'Knockdown'. The moment Fury was no longer on his feet *by his own ability* but only held by ropes - THEN the Referee treats it the same as being held up by the flat canvas. In this case, you are also bang-on the Referee correctly noticed Fury was still able to intelligently defend himself (arm guards, rolling away, at least trying to bat away shots etc). IF IF IF Fury was stunned against the ropes but his arms were impaired, he was not able to try and avoid then YES you jump in and wave it off. Also worth mentioning the '10 count' is the referees count. It is NOT A MINI-GAME RACE inside a bout. It is FOR THE REFEREE, a rule made FOR THE REF so he is allowed a 'count of 10' (not a chronological 10 seconds, not 'seconds') but a his counting of 10 to examine the fighter so as to decide if the fighter can continue. It is a Safety Rule given to the REferee. but to your main observation and it is correct by all boxing orgs involved: When the fighter is only being supported by the ropes and not their own power that is a 'Knockdown'.

[@peezieforestem5078]

Thank you, Gabriel, for this analysis!

[@stevierico5934]

The ref was a cheat.

[@edwardburroughs1489]

I dont think so, he was just in two minds in the moment. Then issued a count when a it was needed. Plus since Usyk is a nice guy he never landed the finishthat he could've as the ref came in.

[@BobK5]

Didn’t you listen to the video?

[@Lektuerekurs]

Thanks Gabriel for bringing this into the public awareness with your video. If Usyk had followed up with a 1-2 or just a right, that would have really polished Fury off. especially with him being off-balance and against the ropes.

[@philiprose7942]

They gave him time to call his sister. In the third Wilder fight he got 27 seconds. The ref was within the rules, and Fury was a good sport. But if that next punch had landed.....

[@davidos3825]

27?!!?! Naaaa

[@roughedup]

He got like 3 minutes time if you are a wilder fan 😂

[@philiprose7942]

@@roughedup I just counted, it was exactly 20. Time to call his sister. The ref said, "Are you okay? Doea it hurt. You want me to rub it?" Then 5 seconds later, the bell." The ref talked until the bell. So adding the break, it was pushing 3 minutes. Search "Wider vs. Fury 3. Ref's slow count."

[@roughedup]

@@philiprose7942 its complete bullshit 🤣 we are lucky that there are people in charge who actually follow the rules

[@ArthArmani]

i don't think his brain was still working, he said happy new year after the fight lol

[@terrywho22]

Thank you for the much needed clarification. Spot on as usual.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

I'm kinda glad it wasn't stopped because I've never seen that before. Someone getting battered to the point they fall into the ropes, then stumble all the way over to the ropes on the other side, all while getting hit. Then he falls into the ropes 2 more times until falling into a slump in the corner.. That was such a rare occurrence & we almost didn't get to see it if the Ref jumped in early.. I am more impressed that Usyk got the decision win rather than a KO. I was more concerned that the judges would find SOME way to not give Usyk the win on the score cards and they almost did. I think that's why people made a big deal about this round because they don't trust the scoring especially for Fury's fights. They both fought well. I just feel Usyk did enough to get the win and I'm really glad the judges didn't take that away from him. It's well deserved

[@BulletProof_Viking]

No, the ref gave a standing count because Fury was out on his feet. Thats what he is supposed to do

[@FightSportTalk]

He clearly did. The Ref could have jumped in sooner he did, when Fury was held up by the ropes 4 times before he did start the count. He waited until the last second, when Usyk was about to finish him to give him a count so Fury would survive the round, and they could maybe give him a robbery win, as one judge did. Usyk made history, despite corrupt officials.

[@maxwellsdemon10]

It's just not what happened here. If the ref would have stopped it sooner, that would definitely be a reason to call the ref corrupt. Just imagine the shitstorm if he saved Fury with a count, not letting Usyk land a few more blows to finish him. If he would have stepped in after the first few shots, that would be HORRENDOUS and would have benefited Fury immensely, saving him from a lot of shots. He gave Usyk the chance to finish and Fury the chance to recover. When Fury fell in the corner literally unable to stand anymore, that is a legitimate knockdown and should be scored as such. This is actually perfect reffing.

[@ishcaby1231]

1000% yes that should have been a stoppage when the ref Intervene or should have allowed Usyk to finish him off just o e more shot

[@bunmeng007]

In One Championship, it's similar. No standing 8 count, but the ref can count when a fighter is sitting on the ring rope or saved by the rope

[@thesilentassassin1167]

Isn’t that the case with every Kickboxing in general? I am pretty sure there aren’t standing 8 counts in GLORY either

[@robmule4647]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j leaning was before, the count was after he fell at 45 degree angle knocked out in to the corner of the ring ie a knockdown

[@josemucarselsacoto5122]

Yes. He did. And fury still says he got robbed. Keep up the good work champ. 🎉

[@evasta9850]

You’re spot on champ, too many viewers don’t know the rules.

[@benbiber4135]

I love Usik and despite all the reasonable fear I had prior to the battle,I was desperate for him to beat Fury for number of reasons but… your explanation is the first since the fight , to make sense without being conspiracy or agenda driven ,but explained in detail by a proper eloquent ,intelligent and more importantly,unbiased pro - respect and subscription,of course 😊

[@gordonstewart6757]

I agree ,there is a solid argument that says Usyk is the Greatest Of All Time. Greatest Heavyweight ? Well most of the Boxers that people consider in the GOAT Heavyweights rankings were Cruiserweights or slightly larger . In Prime Ali @ 205 ,Marciano @195, Dempsey@ 185, Louis@200 ,Johnson@200 ...Foreman @220 ,the size of Usyk. Thx for the video,that explains a lot.

[@bjuganda7758]

Wait what? The great Big George Foreman was 220? It thought he was heavier than that😮

[@Nomad7656]

You forgot Evander Holyfield.

[@gordonstewart6757]

@@bjuganda7758 George Foreman was 220 when he fought ali. Personally I think that was the best version of Foreman.Later in his forties he was huge at about 260 or thereabouts but that George though great and inspiring was not equal to the George of his twenties

[@gordonstewart6757]

@@Nomad7656 You're right ,Holyfield was a dynamic Cruiserweight and a top heavyweight.

[@bjuganda7758]

@@gordonstewart6757 to think in his prime, he was at the same weight with both Wilder and Usyk. That part just blows my mind how heavyweights before weren't over 250lbs

[@chrismalcomson7640]

Usyk didn't land that show stopping blow and Fury seemed to recover enough to satisfy the ref he could continue. Also in world title fights like this refs do tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. It was definately borderline and Fury got lucky with the bell. If there'd been more time in the round Usyk would have finished the job and the ref would have stepped in.. The right result at the end of the fight so it makes no difference... If Fury had won it'd be a big issue...

[@karlobluesman]

usyk won by TKO! tyson couldn't defend himself! about 20 un answered shots. when the ref stepped in i thought he was waving it off, which he should of done

[@publichealth9470]

We should thank the referee for saving Fury’s life, considering he is a father and husband with a life beyond boxing. In the 9th round, Fury was in serious trouble-his hands were down, he staggered like a drunk, and he seemed completely disoriented and defenseless. A few more punches from Usyk could have been fatal.

[@jamesmurphy1389]

Great analysis. Cleared it up for me.

[@kosmique]

good vid you are like the only guy on the internet right now that actually got this whole thing right. spent all day tryn to convey the same info lol. i am amazed how many people watch this fight and have ... very little knowledge of boxing. i am casual myself but you should be able to pick this apart as it happened live, people.

[@CenkHoca]

So either is he knocked down and the ropes are stopping him from hitting the canvas or is he using the ropes to defend himself? Make up your mind bro. The ref should of either stooped it or let Usyk finish him off!

[@joshnoi1804]

Everyone saying it was a slow count, he started the count at 8sec left in the round. He may have gave him a few extra seconds to recover, but there was no way Fury wasn't making it to the next round. The ref did what all refs should do after a count, make sure he was able to defend himself and fight.

[@decker342]

Mike Tyson was able to finish the job despite the assertions that the ropes held Frank Bruno, but the referee allowed it. It is unclear why some people are claiming that the ropes were the reason tyson fury was kept up, but ultimately, he still had to complete the task.

[@dominicviner6619]

Fury is doing low blows all match long but as soon as he’s in trouble we gotta break it down by the most technical of rules lol dude gets so much preferential treatment it’s insane

[@lukeamato423]

The ref shouldnt have stepped in. It was either call or it let him finish

[@learnenglishwithblaine9604]

Fury was still in the fight. That would have been a HUGE disservice to both fighters.

[@in4mus85]

Basically the ref was right. At that point he had to either rule a knockdown or stoppage. Nothing he did was wrong, the ref was so good that his competence saved Fury. A ref's job is to protect the fighters from unnecessary damage. Thats what he did

[@Mantelar]

The standing 8 count rule is not for this. Fury’s knees never touched the ground and he didn’t have the sense to take a knee. He was out on his feet just accumulating brain damage. It was a TKO.

[@Jwt-kb3yx]

I had Fury up 5 rounds to 1 thru the first 6 and thought he was going to cruise to an easy win as he was battering Usyk in rounds 4-6 but then Usyk made an adjustment and well the rest is history. I scored it 114-113 Usyk... 6 rounds a piece with the knockdown giving Usyk the win. This fight was a lot closer than people want to admit because of how destructive Usyk was in that 9th round. I'm not even mad at the 1 judge giving it to Fury because his card was exactly like mine but he gave round 11 to Fury and I gave it to Usyk and that was an incredibly hard round to score.

[@Enlightenment246]

Fire that ref, he dragged his heels counting and saves Fury with the bell. That ref should never have stopped that fight and waited for Fury to hit the canvas, blackout.

[@moopius]

Thankyou for clarifying that. I thought the ref wasn't allowed to stop it like he did but I was unaware of the ring ropes holding a fighter up can lead to a standing count. I felt that the fight was a draw even though I wanted Usyk to win.

[@Jwt-kb3yx]

It was mathematically impossible for a draw due the knockdown and there was no round that you would give it a 10-10 round so i'm not sure how you had a draw. I thought both fighters won 6 rounds each which gave Usyk a win by 1 point.

[@Jwt-kb3yx]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j Your opinion is not fact. All you have to do is look up the rules as it pertains to ropes holding a fighter up. It's that simple. You won't and will stay ignorant and wrong. Good day.

[@clarencendille]

You tried explaining, but I am sorry to tell you that the ref is a disgrace . This fight was over in round 9. Full stop

[@kosmique]

no, he EXPLAINED. you TRIED to understand, but you obviously didnt.

[@JackTenrec-qk4zp]

if Usyk was allowed to finish him off it would look like Mercer VS Morrison, but we all know that the boxing overlords wanted Fury VS AJ next

[@elserpientethechamp2122]

I honestly thought Usyk got robbed of a TKO victory against Fury, Fury was literally wobbled and they even give him a 17 second count?! Still an amazing fight non the less Gabriel and that definetly should not have been a split decision because Usyk just dominated rounds 9, 10, 11 and 11 in my opinion! 🥊

[@caroltodd6691]

WHAT A DISGRACE THAT REF WAS HE WOULD OFF KNOCKED FURY OUT

[@andyelliott8027]

Do you not know the rules of boxing, LISTEN to the video. The ref called it as a knockdown ( the ropes held Fury up), the Ref gave him a mandatory 8 count during which he looks to see if he's fit to continue, he then motioned to Fury to walk towards him to see if he can understand and carry out that instruction. He allowed him to continue but then the bell rang. The ref followed the rules of boxing exactly. Having called a knockdown the fight is paused, had Usyk been allowed to continue punching he would, in effect be hitting a man that's down. The ref was correct, too many people on here don't know anything about boxing.

[@chickennugget3362]

It was treated like a knock down, what more do you want?

[@caroltodd6691]

@@chickennugget3362 a spark OUT

[@caroltodd6691]

@@andyelliott8027 what a load off Bollocks if that was a knock out then it would be up to Usyk to fight fury again

[@Alfred5555]

Referee stepped in literally as there was 10 seconds left on the clock. Just watch the fight. It wasn't a long count, the announcer started counting when he should and the ref picked it up from there.

[@nathr7375]

It was the correct decision by the ref and the correct result happened, why is anyone complaining?

[@kosmique]

because they do not understand the sport and its rules to the degree you do.

[@timbrown49]

The ref quite possibly saved Tyson's life.

[@MikeSmith-cl4ix]

How come you can't find the full fight on KZbin anywhere that hasn't been a problem in the past?

[@daverosemire1317]

No controvery here. When the ropes are obviously holding a fighter up, it does NOT end the fight. It is ruled a knock down. The referee then stops the action, sends the other fighter to a neutral corner, and picks up the count from the timekeeper. The referee handled this perfectly UNDER THE RULES! I'm so sick of manufactured controvery in all aspects of life.

[@cr0mag732]

Good call by the ref, the time he stepped in was when it looked most sensible

[@Rekaert]

I had no issue with the way it was refereed. With a title fight, Refs are always reluctant to stop early, but there's a safety component involved as well as a rule-set. He gave Usyk plenty of time to finish Fury decisively but it wasn't to be. Fury kept his weight on the ropes for support, moved with the punches, kept his hands up and tried to survive. When the ropes stopped Fury's fall, he had to deem it a knockdown, and I don't doubt Fury would have gone down had the ropes not been there. It's a shame for Usyk that he couldn't get the definitive KO, but I was personally never in doubt that he wont that fight. As far as I'm concerned, the ropes saved Fury, not the Ref. Usyk, bless him overcame a reach, height and weight advantage and brought home the win. Well done.

[@iamheful]

it's honestly amazing that it took this long for someone to finally beat this blob 😂

[@mikejohson]

Am I correct in seeing also at 1.24 in the Fourth Round that Fury head-butts Usyk’s eye brow with the side/back of his head, and that is what cuts Usyk’s eye brow?

[@jamesianv]

greatest ever, who invented, rope a dope, Ali shuffle, float like a butterfly sting like a bee, self declared "the greatest of all time" no one has copied alis dancing style yet.

[@teammcdoom]

3.32.1 In this Regulation 3.32, “down” shall mean one or more of the following:- (a) when a Boxer falls from the boxing ring beyond the ring apron as a result of a legitimate blow; or (b) when a Boxer is on one foot or both feet and at the same time any other part of their body is touching the floor of the boxing ring; or (c) when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend themself; or (d) when a Boxer is in the act of rising and in all of the above cases, a Boxer shall be considered to be down until they regained their feet within the boxing ring and is in a position and a condition to defend themself. Point C for reference. Great fight, I hope there is a rematch 🙏

[@greek1237]

The ref saved Fury. In the old days like Ike Williams vs Jack, or Marciano LarSarza, the ref stop the fight when they were pounded their man on the ropes.

[@HODthunderwolf]

The ref got in the way of Usyk twice during that exchange. He literally blocks him from throwing punches multiple times WITHOUT actually stopping the action. So fkn bias it’s unreal

[@johnmiddleweek7472]

Fury was KOed the ref saved FURY, end of story.

[@DecartesGreatStar]

Nah Fury was out on his feet, an 8 count was allowed, the biggest offense was the ref trying to block Usyk before that, the ref got in Usyk's way like 3 times which is utterly unacceptable

[@duaneogrant]

I thought if the ropes stop you from falling, it’s ruled a knockdown and you get the count. Am I missing something?

[@sysdevman]

Remember that the referee saved Usyk from Dubois by giving Usyk extra time, over and above the mandatory......

[@SOLE_II_SOUL]

Fury was saved by the ropes which is why ref intervened. I was cheering for Uysk, but the ref did his job. People were mad when the ref broke up Garcia on Haney but in that case Garcia was crowing Haney after he was knocked down which you can’t do also. You have to return to the neutral corner. So while fans can be blood thirsty and we want that sports moment, rules are in place for reason lol.

[@dion6635]

He fell on the ropes, and the ropes stopped him from falling over. That means it's a technical knockdown. That means a compulsory standing 8 count. End of story

[@BulletProof_Viking]

Exactly. Too many people commenting who know nothing about boxing and don't understand when ref should give standing count. Fury was out on his feet hence the count

[@generalkang1969]

The ref ruling that a knockdown is exactly what happened when Evander Holyfield fell into the ropes, without touching a hand or a knee or otherwise, to the canvas... the ref (rightly) ruled that he had fallen into the ropes and was held up by them and thus was a knockdown. Likewise, Michael Grant was blasted across the ring by Lennox Lewis and stumbled backward into the far corner, landing with his shoulders at about the middle rope level - didn't touch down a hand, knee, or otherwise, but was ruled a knockdown. So the ref stopping Usyk from hitting Fury as he lay on the ropes facing partly away was 100% legit, in my book, based on what two different refs in two different fights more than 20 years ago did... could one make a case that Usyk pounding Fury across the ring for 20 seconds ought to have resulted in a stoppage? Maybe, but then there is Evander Holyfield stumbling around and failing to hold on for nearly half a minute against Riddick Bowe in their first fight in 1992... only to come back and be the one knocking Bowe around by the end of that same round. People are arguing both sides -- that the ref ought to have let them fight (let Usyk hit him after he's ruled down) or that the ref ought to have stopped it (before that point). Had Usyk actually LOST this fight, or had it ended in a draw, then after-the-fact sour grapes might be legitimate --- but the guy whose hand was raised was the guy who won the fight, plain and simple.

[@un1vids]

if you drop to the gap of ropes. it's knockdown stop and count similar to Beterbiev vs Joe Smith Jr

[@GdyufBdhud]

Ref SEE, finish Fury, give him a chance, pull Usyk 1 side, Recovery count Start : count a bit slow..................................

[@andrewmthomson0191]

Its a standing 8 count if the fighter is held up by the ropes after a punch in that rule set. Which i pretty much what happened the ref seemed on point.

[@kosmique]

The standing eight count was instituted in 1982. The Association of Boxing Commissions later eliminated the standing eight count in 1998 and it is usually not invoked in professional bouts today. A standing eight count is different from a mandatory eight count, which is only assessed once a fighter is knocked down. Exactly that was the case with Fury. If people would understand/accept that Fury was knocked down, the ref jumping in for the count is a picture we all have seen 1000 times in boxing. a downed boxer getting the count. theres nothing really special to it at all. its just a shitstorm of people who do not get it.

[@kosmique]

my last line wasnt speaking of you btw. i just slightly corrected you with my reply... but the large majority of comments around youtube are definitely not gettin it.

[@maxwellsdemon10]

⁠it's not a TKO, it's a knockdown. The only reason he didn't go down was because of the ropes. That's a knockdown.

[@sales5280]

Yes and no in my opinion , just remember it was for the undisputed heavyweight title and the ref said before the fight if they was to get knocked down that he would give them every opportunity to get up and carry on plus there was less than 20 seconds left in the rd ..I am pleased he let it go on but yes absolutely Tyson was badly hurt and it could of been stopped

[@robmule4647]

@user-bq9ow1wj4j leaning was before, the count was after he fell at 45 degree angle knocked out in to the corner of the ring ie a knockdown

[@steinanderson9849]

dude go read the unified rules it has 2 qualifiers - supported ON the ropes AND unable to defend for it to be a knockdown. Fury was leaning AGAINST the ropes, and still trying to fend and evade. neither qualifier was met for a knockdown. it should have not been a knockdown according to the rules. was it a good call in terms of sportsmanship by the ref? well that is a different story and much more debatable

[@Antheratrix]

The concerning thing is I can assure you the ref would have stopped the fight if it was usyk being pummeled by fury like that... Also the judge that had fury for the win is a wbc official.. coincidentally the title fury held.. If usyk didnt knockdown fury in round 9 i'm pretty certain fury would have been announced winner and that just wouldnt sit right with me.

[@buckbreaker5185]

He absolutely did save Fury. They always do. I will not be gaslit into thinking he wasnt saved.

[@jamescooke7243]

Well, here is Gabriel, who's a world-class fighter, telling you that you are wrong.

[@buckbreaker5185]

@@jamescooke7243 Neat, tell me how many doses of the vax you took? C'mon dont be scared

[@The_Hater_AKA_Truth_Teller]

I don't agree that it should've been stopped like some people are saying (Benefit of the doubt should always be afforded in a fight of this magnitude) HOWEVER, I still say YES. The referee potentially saved or at least tried to save him. He should've called the knockdown when the ropes kept Fury up the first time but he didn't & let Fury crash into the ropes like 4-5 more times only jumping in when Fury was at his most vulnerable & Usyk was about to land a free left hand. The count was also laughably drawn out to like 20 seconds between the 8 count & resuming the fight on the bell.

[@dmitrykim3096]

the ref saved the rematch, if Fury was knocked out cold - the re-match wouldn't have make too much sense

[@Stu81]

Its a mandatory 8 count, the standing 8 count was different in that a standing 8 count could be given without there being a knockdown, mandatory 8 counts are only given on knockdowns and fury was clearly saved by the ropes. There are multiple angles of footage you can watch and if anything the ref could have step in a few moments earlier because fury was very clearly saved by the ropes before the final stoppage which is the moment everyone thinks the ref is trying to hamper usyk when in fact the ref is just hesitant and lets the fight continue until it was obvious fury would have gone fully down if it wasnt for the ropes, its amazing that so many people and even boxers themselves just dont know the rules, not only that but the fact that people need to understand the pressure a ref has to make the right calls in such a high stakes fight, people saying the ref should be banned and crap like "obviously got paid by fury" are absolute fools.

[@j.brendenstookey3437]

Despicable ref, he downright saved Fury. Any other viewpoint is wrong, period.

[@amgeneralbuilding]

8 counts are allowed in amateurs only

[@TeacherDoug7]

This issue is a litmus test. If you think the ref was wrong to rule a knockdown, you don't know s*** about boxing.

[@ikhanic48]

The Ref Robbed Usyk out of a knockout. That was messed up! You don't get a standing 8 count unless you're knocked down. The Ref interupted what would have been a knock out! A couple of more shots and Fury would have been done. Booooooooo. Shame on you Ref!

[@stevenboldt6489]

No, the ref didn't save Fury. There would have been outrage had the ref stopped the fight in the 9th. It was the deciding round and made Usyk the clear winner. Fury claimed there was bias in favor of Usyk because of what's happening in Ukraine. I think there was bias in favor of Fury. Doesn't matter now. Usyk is undisputed.

[@dora71803]

I've seen standing counts many times before.

[@fercules2]

Great breakdown!

[@AdamŚpiewak-y9b]

You are wrong!. He was all ready falling and full stars mode! In this moment refery should think about his safety!

[@shawnharris2580]

He didn’t defined himself. He wasn't punching back to defined himself. Tyson was out on his feet.

[@marcd1981]

*Defend

[@petergroverd6626]

What I saw in round 9 was that Fury's Brains and legs where jelly for a 20 second period when Usyk went for him and poor old Fury's eyes showed a what the hell is going o moment.. Usyk should have been given another 10 seconds to get his KO.

[@maxwellsdemon10]

Fury Was hanging in the ropes. He is literally just being held up by the ropes, hanging in there in almost 45 degrees. How is that not a knockdown? It obviously is. Giving Usyk time to finish of Tyson here would literally be the same as letting him finish off an opponent who hit the floor. Both are knocked down. Man I was hoping for Usyk to finish him as well, but he didn't. He "just" knocked him down bad.

[@markrichardson5442]

The ref classed the collapse on the ropes as a knockdown, the 8 count was legitimate. That is fact and the rules allow for that. So get over it.

[@Lord_Hillcrest03]

The ref froze i think . The biggest fight in his career and he froze .

[@Jj-ty7qh]

So now racists are complaining that the ref saved Fury but the same racists were defending the long counts in the Wilder fight. So it seems it’s ok to cheat a black guy but not another white guy.

[@A.Rostov]

If referee interfere in this situation he must stop the fight as there is 15 seconds left and Fury will be knocked out .

[@soldierbreed]

Skip the part where the ref intentionally got in his way

[@aliggoz]

The ref did exactly what the rules state, he was out on his feet as the ropes where holding him up. The ref did the correct thing, standing 8 count as the late Roger mayweater said most people dont know sh#£ about boxing.

[@bijaykumarmoharana7254]

I am great fan of Usky well done.