DID THIS DINOSAUR BUTT HEADS??? | Paleontologists rank PACHYCEPHALOSAURUS in JW: Evolution 2!

[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

I find it very funny how 4 out of 5 Skeleton Crew members perfectly fit the stereotype of "white bearded male paleontologist" but they object to it.

[@mercuryatamolos3687]

“Your research should not be guided by correcting media that is supposed to just be fun and cool.” -Amelia Zietlow, from episode #71 of Paleontologists Rank the Dinosaur Designs of JWE 2

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

“See that distinctive dome skull? 9 inches of solid bone. Now careful, you see the Pachy’s neck attaches at the bottom of the skull unlike other reptiles, so when it lowers it’s head it lines up directly with its backbone, which is perfect for absorbing impact.” ~ Dr. Robert Burke

[@Dirtnap12]

The Dino D-day stunlock made me think of a Dracorex going into the machine they used to make Captain America and coming out as a star spangled Pachycephalosaurus. I'd watch the hell out of 'Captain Cretaceous' headbutting the shit out of nazis.

[@beedrillbot121]

Never ask Desmatosuchus what he was doing in the 1940's.

[@GhaniPulangDariSawah]

Because it probably can't even understand so you're wasting your time

[@XxTheCupidKidxX]

⁠I like the implication there's a nonzero chance it will be able to understand and elaborate

[@eliburry-schnepp6012]

Something I did yesterday at the summer camp I worked at was that I was telling kids about how young T. rex were super-fast, and then contrasted that with how dromaeosaurs were poor runners. But I didn't just leave it at that, I explained why the adaptations that made them poor runners also made them really good at other cool things like grappling prey.

[@eyebrowpunk171]

can't believe Alex fled to Greenwich to escape having to describe ornithischian phylogeny again

[@dinonerdboiowo2431]

I hope the next dlc has paranthodon, dacentrurus, yanbeilong, mongolostegos and adratiklit just so we get a purely stunlock episode and also because I want to watch james in particular suffer

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING WE NEED AN ASIAN STEGOSAUR DLC >:)

[@dinonerdboiowo2431]

@@areallyshortbrontothere Specifically the asian stegosaurs known from an astralagus and a broken coracoid

[@Jai_and_privacy]

Next DLC. Lol.

[@francisco.musica86]

I think there won't be another dlc...🙂‍↕️

[@TyranntX]

Park manager was likely the last one, no more until JWE3 (assuming that’s what Frontier is doing next year.)

[@PrimalGamer2656]

My favorite herbivorous dinosaur, whilst this design is not the most accurate the lost world is what made me fall in love with it. Just loved the spunk it had especially when it headbutted those guys through the truck

[@mr-pilkington]

it's my favourite herbi too 😊

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

2:21 this reminds me of a tweet I saw yesterday that was something like "what is your favorite jurassic park death?" With a picture of Spielberg staring directly at Arliss Howard lying on the floor with the Tyrannosaurus hatchling like he was a disappointed parent.

[@iguanaboi3921]

I remember when I was a kid, there was this weird show I watched about a girl at a summer camp who befriends a weird raptor looking creature, who was like a kid who was turned halfway into a raptor, so he was more raptor, but still human. I remember the villains were these two people who were like pachycephalosaur people, and I cannot remember for the life of me what it was called. edit: It was called Dinosapien

[@eliburry-schnepp6012]

Another great way I approach things is saying stuff like "hey, did you know that in real life Velociraptors actually had wings that they probably used to balance on top of their prey while they attacked it?" Kids ALWAYS get excited about that and arent too concerned about the fact that those wings are feathered and flightless because I introduce it by explaining how cool and interesting it is

[@bradenhoefert2109]

I remember being a kid in the 90’s and realizing what a stupid argument the whole “T. Rex was only a scavenger” argument was. Like it didn’t even pass the smell test to 10 year old me.

[@i.m.evilhomer5084]

Definitely a good 90s-era design for the animal. My only complaint is the kangaroo pose it does from time to time, which I think was its default stance in the first game.

[@Mrloophole]

Man I love this adult Dracorex

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

Funny, very funny.

[@kickerwhitelion7626]

Dino D Day is still playable, there are community servers which are mostly empty but if you played on stream people from the stream could join. It was such a fun stupid game, the gameplay was great.

[@evamariagarciagarrido6123]

One thing I don't like about the ingame Pachy is how "calm" it is. Like, they could have had them charging out of the hatchery but instead they just casually walk away. It's really disappointing taking into account how fucking good they were in the Lost world, where the first (and only)thing they do is ram a car, which really shows the audience that despite its small size it's still a powerful and dangerous animal

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

Next week is gonna be a big one, literally, one of the big 3 megatherapods, & probably the most extreme dichotomy in designs, one is S tier & the other is maybe F tier.

[@GhaniPulangDariSawah]

I haven't reached the end so just going to guess it's giga since it's the only one with multiple designs (other than different colors and a snazzy fur coat)

[@spitfirebird]

For those wondering what the common name of the duiker mentioned in this video is, it is called the White-Bellied Duiker (Cephalophus leucogaster)

[@Jurassiccanonking]

Giga episode will be an awesome 4 hours.

[@jamesgatehouse3318]

31:30 - As a South Australian, I feel a civic duty to mention the late Port Adelaide footballer Dave 'Grave Danger' Granger. Quite possibly the best nickname I've heard.

[@Brannington]

49:18 "these guys had just,,, very dome-" smash cuts to the tier list, wheel spin and then roll credits

[@J0J0Reference]

I can so vividly imagine that edit and it is killing me lmao

[@Brannington]

@@J0J0Reference >:D same braincell

[@Camphibia]

Scott's axles and Pachycephalosaurus's brain are similar in one way: they were holding on for dear life as they get beat to death

[@J0J0Reference]

1:53:25 “Inside you there are two giganotosaurus, there shouldn’t be, they’re very big.” That’s definitely somebody’s kink.

[@kellynbotha]

As someone who’s just joined the “3 in the 10s place” club, I’m horrified that my fav KZbinrs are so young and so accomplished. lol

[@omage3457]

1:21:35 Unnatural History Channel touched on that in their horn spec-evo video. Basically, bighorn sheep don’t use their horns in defense cause they can fall to their deaths. Even gave examples of bighorn sheep ramming predators and then flying off cliffs.

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

On this episode of the skeleton crew: Groundhog day but woth ornithopods Dino d day James leaves to work on people!? Saving private pachycephalosaurus

[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

Saving Private Cephalosaurus

[@GandalfTheTsaagan]

100% echo all the thoughts on this fella. It's very pleasantly retro. 10/10 would have as a 90's toy again. It also helps that in this game it's not constantly stuck in the kangaroo pose, which was rather glaring in the previous game. Specially when it walked and even more so when it ran which was a bizarre sight.

[@Verminator4]

DINO D-DAY MENTIONED

[@benschultz1784]

Best TF2 reskin

[@WildWorld81]

Also, the anti-predator strategy of the Ovis sheep is their environment. Their horns, especially of the rams, are essentially useless against their predators

[@i.m.evilhomer5084]

15:30 Hey Scott, the American versions of Walking with Dinosaurs & Walking with Beasts are on the Internet Archive. As far as I know, they're the full episodes, but they have been edited together as a 2 hour long compilation by the uploaders.

[@skeletoncrew8122]

Scott here: Well this is gonna take some investigation!

[@rgonzalezarce3815]

I believe those ducks were referenced on unnatural history channel astalos video from MONSTER HUNTER. Comparing how astalos use their wings to beat the crap out of everything.

[@azhdarchidae66]

"Epidermal ossifications in archosaurs tend to be bilaterally paired" is such a fun sounding sentence, completely ignoring the meaning

[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

Wait, but there was already a Stygimoloch episode.

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

Stygimoloch but OLD

[@Adude420]

Dude I’m really excited for them to review the Giga, I love the frontier model!

[@MinmiGamer]

4:27 I mean, at least it doesnt have a flaming robotic pterodaur that attaches to it and uses its feet as guns

[@thekingofdinos8518]

James, just know that watching your guy's videos has made me more educated about how dinosaur science works and made me more interested in learning more than just an animals etymology, and has helped me really consider what field of study I want to pursue. This channel is a gold mine of information and you guys make learning engaging and fun.

[@kevinprehm]

Damn, I'm not the only one that remembers dino D-day, and the throwing of Jewish goats by Dilophosaurus

[@GhaniPulangDariSawah]

That's literally the only thing I remember about that game

[@RETROID4500X]

I give Pachycephalodaurus an A as well. It’s a solid design that I like a lot. I remember them in the Lost World Jurassic park game as being difficult enemies and making funny noises when they were just running around.

[@Saiyanking72]

The group call “we’re the skeleton crew!!” Gets worse everytime and i am here for it😂 After watching the whole video. Ohhhh nooo speaking of not being overly critical of things meant to entertain i cant wait for the next upload

[@jakewalker7300]

The head butting conversation was fascinating. Nicely done.

[@Jurassiccanonking]

This is probably the least comments I’ve left on any Skeleton Crew Video.

[@aaronbrown3163]

Pachycephalosaurus and it's various kin have always been one of the classic Dinosaurs for me. Always got to fit in either them or Styigimolch to my parks just cool odd balls all around. Looking forward to the Giga. One design was pretty on point while the Dominion design was a very nice creature design on its own

[@Neriedar]

On your science communication points, I recommend Tilden’s principles of interpretation or his book Interpreting Our Heritage. It could be modified since transmission of information is a higher priority in science communication. That or finding an NAI certification course. Learning to give a good public talk as a Zoo Science student was highly illuminating

[@mr-pilkington]

Glad my favourite herbi got the ranking it did 😁 also glad the crew mentioned the scene where it headbutts a man through a car, made me appreciate how underplayed it was which gave it so much value, I feel it's the kind of action that's lost in the JW films where everything is heightened beyond plausibility. I hope we get more stuff of aggro herbis like Pachy in future paleo content.

[@richardnixonpog9925]

The Popeye the Sailor equivalent of the Hell Creek

[@anotherwesley7661]

*Emperor Joseph II von Österreich voice-* "Too many nodes."

[@BattlingBeasts]

14:07 I’m so glad someone else remembers Bonehead Detectives!

[@chriso0015]

You have no idea how long I have been waiting for you to get Giganotosaurus on the wheel. Next week can’t come soon enough

[@garrettnichols2719]

I wish it had more Lost World sounds. Especially the angry charging sound

[@drackool3544]

Bro Dino d-day mention had me dying. God I miss that crazy game

[@thek-tboundary6565]

I’m barely a quarter through the video and I keep hearing one of you bone heads playing Helldivers. I always have these vids playing in the background while I work and I keep jolting up when I hear “Throwing down a sentry” like a ‘Nam vet on July 4th.

[@thomasluke-wp8or]

I'm really glad that there is more discussion about the design in this one, not that I'd say your other videos were worse at all, you're still very entertaining and informative and encourage me to learn and study on my own but there are sometimes questions about the design that I feel would've been answered if the design had been the focus a little more. If I remember correctly the design started to be put slightly to the side during the suchomimus video and I'm glad that it's being brought back to the center. Amazing video as always ❤

[@trainertealvgc2267]

Hey James, thanks for the explanation for your career change. I was wondering about it because I lacked the common sense to see the anatomy connection

[@TRANSFORMERSMADMAN]

I thought they were carnivores when I was a kid because of Land before time and a toy one of them I had that had sharp teeth

[@GTSE2005]

This is probably the only species that will have at least two videos dedicated to it

[@evamariagarciagarrido6123]

There's not a single thought in that dude's head and I love that

[@TurboMooseBoi]

Dino d day is a wild concept. I need to play it immediately. Also, congratulations to james🎉🎉

[@phone_gal]

i used to be an avid Pachy hater but as of recent i've started to look at it in a fond way i still loath the skins but Pachy is a pretty neat dinosaur, shame that two other "species" are likely just its children, but i personally think thats a freakin awesome discovery, that we effectively found an entire age timeline of Pachycephalosaurus

[@austinames9340]

I love the Pachycephalosaurus. Yes, it’s a very 90s design but it’s a very GOOD 90s design and it feels like a real animal. I love the movie colors and its behaviors. Also noticed we forgot phylogeny so I’ll do the honors: Ornithischia> Neornithischia> Cerapoda> Marginocephalia> Pachycephalosauria> Pachycephalosauridae. Williamson and Carr 2002 put Pachy under Pachycephalosaurinae, but Longrich, Sankey & Tanke 2010 and Evans et al. 2013 put it just under Pachycephalosauridae.

[@drayreign0391]

1:15:30 is jumping spiders (peacock spiders to be more exact) do choreographed dance

[@GTSE2005]

This design has a sort of retro feel to it, I'm not sure whether I should like it or not

[@Brannington]

The way Scott actually got me off my ass to go grab water. Thank you Scott, i actually only had coffee this morning and my kidneys were starting to feel it

[@theBeasman333]

This series is the best thing ever.

[@thekingofdinos8518]

Dalton's spiel about how bad it is to just say how wrong older dinosaur depictions are instead of educating people on new science is a very good point that I'd never considered. Also it puts those "what Jurassic Park got wrong" videos into a different perspective.

[@wyattrippy5939]

I think Pachycephalosaurus butt heads as much as Scott and Alex butt heads... maybe a little less

[@thekingofdinos8518]

14:44 "I'm in my mom's basement." -James Napoli

[@RiverDoesTheThing]

How did they know I'm on vacation-

[@persianking44]

Actually I’m pretty sure Pachy was one on of the vials Nedry stole and sealed in the whip cream can. But yeah The Lost World is where Friar Tuck officially debuts.

[@FragulumFaustum]

You might be confusing it with Proceratosaurus. That, Gallimimus, Tyranosaurus [sic] rex, Velociraptor, Stegasaurus [sic], and Metriacanthosaurus are the ones legible in the scene. There's also some ceratopsian, but the angle makes it impossible to read the first part of the name (though it does look like it's probably just Triceratops).

[@persianking44]

@@FragulumFaustum Maybe, but I'm fairly certain it's there.

[@FragulumFaustum]

I don't know why it surprises me that Wikipedia's disambiguation page for the term "bonehead" includes a link to the Pachy page.

[@u1849ka]

Any time I hear someone say "Digitize" I flash back to the now ancient kids show, Captain Power... "Digitize them..." d:

[@christopherbj]

Is there a link to your recent talk James (or any talks that you’ve given)?

[@_draco_7300]

Oh neat. My favourite dinosaur is next week and it's movie design will be attacking our eyeballs for the duration of the video, wonder what rating it will get(I hope frontier one will be A, because I think it isn't that bad) Also, relating to frontier design of giga that crew will be discussing next week, I wonder if they will mention "Lady Giga" from Frankfurt, since both designs seem fairly similar

[@thekingofdinos8518]

Ah yes, Pachycephalosaurus... One of the animals in this game for sure.

[@josephdieppe]

Two things: 1. SPHAEROTHOLUS MENTION!!! 🥳 2. I have a sci-comm question: As someone who talks about prehistoric animals (mostly dinosaurs) with their friends and family, is it ok that I mostly introduce people to obscure animals or ones that have pretty good paleomedia depictions, or should I start to engage more with popular animals? Ex: I talk about how Proceratosaurids are related to T. Rex, and show people the Yutyrannus from this game, rather than talk about Tyrannosaurus itself

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

I wouldn't see why not

[@GhaniPulangDariSawah]

I don't see what the problem with doing that is as long as they're interested in what you're talking about

[@jurassicswine]

Also welcome back to Long Island James I will find you

[@jadedragon1174]

This is by far my favorite ornithischian dinosaur. I’m so glad you’re covering this animal.

[@OrdemDoGraveto]

Scott, not at launch, but at a later update the Pachys did fight each other on the previous game. And following James criteria for S, I do believe Pachy deserves it. I don't think it belongs in S, but JP design is the one I associate with Pachys the most. When I imagine the animal, this is how I imagine it, including the gray and blue colors. I think the fact that pratically everybody on the crew didn't put it on S proves that this cannot be the only criteria. Yeah, it's iconic and quintessencial in representing the animal, but it's also a little boring, lacking "posses" hehe

[@kevinnorwood8782]

When it comes to injuries sustained by these animals from headbutting, I have a couple of questions for you guys at the Skeleton Crew regarding another kind of head-related injury altogether, but one that is probably highly relevant when it comes to dealing with repeated blows to one's head: concussions. Is there any fossil/paleontological evidence to suggest Pachycephalosaurs may have suffered from concussions? Also, do you think its possible that the reduced size of Pachycephalosaur brains could have been a safety precaution against possible concussions? I remember several documentaries featuring Dr. Robert Bakker talking about Pachycephalosaurs, and he always seemed to heavily imply that one piece of strong evidence for headbutting in these animals is the fact that their brains are very small, because "a smaller brain is much harder to injure" (in one documentary, he even uses modern American football players as a comparison, citing that because we have such a huge brain in our skulls, concussions are still a very real danger, even with all the latest advancements in football helmet designs that are meant to minimize that danger). But what about you guys' stance(s) on this subject? Do you consider Dr. Bakker's theory a plausible one?

[@iamthedrumandbassfarmer8735]

cant wait for the jokersaurus review

[@jaredmc7982]

IF there’s anything positive to say about the Dominion variant, it does have some pretty nice patterns, and I wish the default/more paleo-accurate Giganotosaurus had those patterns available to it.

[@Adasaur250]

As someone who's trying to be a paleontologist, the _Jurassic_ series has always been weird to me because I don't have much of a relationship with it; I was that kid who was always watching "educational" stuff so I preferred the early 2000s docs over the films, most of which I still haven't watched. From my experience as a paleo sci-comm-er there is some value in deconstructing a movie depiction - especially if you actually have the fossils on hand - so it is fun to take a swing at the flaws from time to time with an audience, but at this point the animals I'll probably be studying for the next few years will likely not show up in any _Jurassic_ film or other big media, so I don't have a particularly big dog in that ring. As an aside, if someone is willing to fund me, I will happily make a birding venture down to South America to get video footage of steamer ducks.

[@azhdarchidae66]

His name is Walter, Walter Granger, it says so not on the English or German Wikipedia pages which i can read, but on the Dutch one for whatever reason

[@hokiesrex9599]

So glad to know this episode is dedicated to all the dome headed dads out there 👨‍🦲

[@RyanMc66]

Pachycephalosaurus had such better scenes in Michael Crichton's novel The Lost World. I really wish the '97 film was a closer adaptation- and was ~3 hours in length!

[@Adude420]

Is it weird I fall asleep to these videos? (In like a good way.) idk I just find it enjoyable to turn on something educational and fall asleep to it 🤷‍♂️

[@azhdarchidae66]

i like pairing them up with dracorex as juveniles

[@MichaelA.Myers2018]

When you do Giganotosaurus, could you maybe first release the JWD Design and then the Game skin?

[@-_The-Ordinary-Gachatuber-Retu]

Welp, the next dinosaur (Not gonna spoil it) won’t be a good one-

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

The Frontier design is Great, the movie design is an abomination.

[@Mrloophole]

​​@@SmashBrosAssemble Like most things in that movie.

[@SwampApeSci]

1:19:08 Pachycephalosaurus becoming an upland animal.

[@SwampApeSci]

1:33:57 Pachycephalosaurus descends from the uplands to give us exactly 1 fossil.

[@areallyshortbrontothere]

The dome headed duiker is the White-bellied duiker

[@dinoxels]

1:38:08 quote of the episode

[@WildWorld81]

You see a lot of ritualized behaviors in lizards and other non-bird reptiles too. A lot of the ritualization has to do with instinct as much as it does intelligence

[@dalevering]

Sooooo Steamer Ducks are the Viltrumites of birds is what I'm hearing.

[@trainertealvgc2267]

Can you guys go over Man After Man the speculative evolution book

[@Jurassiccanonking]

It’s still ugly but the model is a huge improvement from JWE1.

[@jurassicswine]

Friar Tuck

[@MrTroodon_Official]

Ds say the "tear down" approach is nowdays used more so by general "sci-com" and news outlets on general. The whole "Doesnt science suck?" and "Look, how they ruined this piece of media", dont really remember the last time I seen a scientist or a more specialized sci-com media really pull this recently. Nowdays is like, clickbaity articles keeping posting about the chicken res thing.

[@kingkosmoceratops1404]

A new character has entered the Skeleton Crew lore - Sargent Cephy!