Did this Sigma deserve to get FLAMED? | Overwatch 2 Spectating

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[@HmongHeroo]

"Tank diff" and it's a game of OW where you end up winning OW players can never be happy

[@dragonlordd1447]

I've been told tank diff after we won in quick play

[@fus3n]

I had a simiilar situation of toxicity from other team then right after the potg shows up of me absolutely demolishing their entire team with blade.

[@TamWam_]

​@@dragonlordd1447whenever I see someone sat diff in qp I say "why be toxic in qp" or smth calling them out

[@lumenox8541]

As a tank player, damn near every game is a "tank diff" regardless of how you play. It's honestly the most frustrating thing about the role imo. The worst is when it comes from your Mercy / Lucio or Mercy / Lifeweaver backline

[@HmongHeroo]

scoreboard sallys always ruin the vibe of the game

[@wswann34]

Players don't understand that most tank diff happens because of bad DPS. If u don't have good DPS it's ggs

[@rhaemir]

I stopped playing tank regularly cause of this. It's so much more relaxing playing support or dps. Tank is fucking stressful for playing a game

[@garchomp8273]

As a fellow tank main I to have been blamed for things that were out of my control. One was had team flaming me don't get me wrong I was playing really badly but at the end of the game they said report me and the enemy team were standing up for me you know it's bad when the enemy team is on your side

[@Alex_Aramayo]

I hate bad support comps saying Tank diff like a Zen/Moira & ur Winston instead of like Ana/LW or Ana/Kiriko

[@T1Dnvlg]

this sigma played incredibly well for a gold 4 player, they will climb tremendously, probably into mid to high plat

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

So that junk/sombra/ pharah just sucked ass and tried to blame the tank for all their deaths by being out of position. Happens every time

[@Alex_Aramayo]

Then they blame the tank for not protecting them 🤦‍♂️

[@diogosousa7698]

+ they playing a hero that can scape ez i play junkrat to relax and actually have fun and it's easy to escape a bad position. sombra you just tp out of there and pharah you just need to learn to fly

[@dylanmortimer5815]

'erm akshually, the tanks job is to take all the damage for me, so I'm not sure why my positioning (which is impeccable btw) matters' - That junk/sombra/pharah probably, 2024

[@twsarahh]

Imagine coming back to this game after SEVEN YEARS; holy shit it's changed

[@azseal2669]

And yet it's still the same; bad dps, wacky balance and people typing "tank diff" lmao

[@twsarahh]

@@Vinney337 That's really interesting you mention the lack of communication, because that's something even I noticed being a new player who never played the original game. I'm always surprised how little people communicate all the way through higher ranks. That being said, I'm glad I don't have to shoot through two shields every game so I definitely agree the game has had a mixed bag of changes through the years.

[@MxChloeB42]

Hell even coming back after 4 years has been wild, I can't imagine coming back from before even Orisa released or before the 5 man rez of Mercy got deleted.

[@frankvoss3813]

i get "tank diff" and "support diff" in 90% of my games and honestly i swear most of the time the real issue is the dps

[@wisepi8806]

The tank blame is crazy, i would say he is the best player in that team.

[@AD_Nelson]

Damn, that "Alright so!" was _aggressive!_

[@edoyuki1030]

Yeah!!! I got hyped

[@ryanwoods9608]

I went 39-1 while doing 50% of the teams damage with the entire enemy team swapping hard counters on me. We lost and I got the "Tank Diff" with my endorsement dropping after the game (reported for throwing) I just can't with this game...

[@Alex_Aramayo]

I love it when ur getting countered & still blamed by ur teammates like there's a reason why they're trying to hard counter

[@azseal2669]

"Remember kids; counterswapping is only for the tank" - Average ow2 player mentality.

[@mikesyr]

This poor Sigma and Mercy, they are doing what they can, but sometimes it's just so reliant on your dps not int'ing. Brutal to watch.

[@TamWam_]

That mercy rez off the ledge was smart

[@palutarium8197]

I was the soldier. I’m like 90% sure this game happened before I unlocked comms. As you can probably tell I am a big noob. I’m in plat now so I think I’m starting to figure things out, but ow is so chaotic I definitely get lost sometimes and don’t know what to do.

[@freshbud6113]

Watch a lot of unranked to gm/top 500 from the better players. It can help a lot in establishing what you should be thinking about and how to adapt to different situations.

[@talissucks7182]

soldier has sprint so getting to places is mostly what you should do, take advantage of being able to take a good flank and then rotating to a new one, when alone is when you heal pad, trust supps

[@moonyeast]

try turning on the setting that plays a sound for ally/enemy elims-- helps me know when we have an advantage. ow is definitely really overstimulating sometimes lol

[@TamWam_]

Damn never seen a spectating vid where someone else on the team saw the vid too LMAO

[@jennalove6755]

huh? how are you ranked if you dont have comms

[@AlphaGamma297]

As a support main that's picking up and really liking Sigma, this guy was cookin'. Sure, he wasn't playing PERFECT, but considering they're shakin' off SEVEN YEARS worth of rust with how much has changed and still doin' this well, that Junkrat was on some pretty good stuff if he thought this Sigma was a problem.

[@fettbub92]

Tank diff is the new support diff, its usually from a player with a negative K/D who fed the whole game.

[@YAXZDND]

The "tank diff" from people who have barely even touched the role is so real. The amount of times i've heard that, only to check their profile and see i've got more hours in a single tank hero than they have in the entire game astounds me.

[@Guntages]

Honestly the tank and his supports carried the sorry DPS players

[@Iscoileachme]

That's actually crazy. I paid attention to the kill notifications at a random point where they got like 4 or 5 elims in a row, and they're all Sigma-Mercy-Ana icons lol. It was a literal 3 v 5, the dps were nonexistent.

[@TamWam_]

​@@IscoileachmeFR, apparently the soldier commented and said they were new during this game and are in plat now. Or smth idk

[@CyrilOfTheWind]

I actually appreciate you saying that about junk traps. I feel like in game if you get caught in one or two junk traps, especially as tank because you're on the frontline and are thus much more likely to encounter those corner traps that kinda clip into the environment for natural cover, the team just starts tippy typin away about how you're trash and not paying any attention.

[@DJBaphomet]

The sigma here did really well! I could easily see them being plat or even diamond with play like this, especially if they listen to the feedback One thing I wanna mention (since Emongg mentioned all the important things) is that you could be a little more aware of Junkrat's trap. As a junkrat player it can be an *extremely* easy kill, even on a tank, if I'm sitting in the right spot when someone gets trapped, so just making sure that you see the little teeth sticking out of the ground is a great way to lower Junkrat's value a ton

[@PokeNAUT97]

I dropped 50 on reinhardt with like 4 or 5 deaths, best game ever. Literally the next game, I got "tank diff" and a playstation message asking how many brain cells I have. The duality of tank

[@liammbiscwit]

Because stats arent everything, going 50-4 could still mean youre playing bad. and going 19-9 could mean you played great. stat mentality is the issue with overwatch, no one actually knows how to play, just buzzzwords

[@sonomi2417]

I feel like the "Tank Diff" was probably towards the enemy tank

[@deployed246]

I want to agree, but having seen how many times DPS go off on people, it was most likely happening because they took longer to win the first and second points, and because the opposing team's push up the street in round 1 has a lot of momentum that some players hate so much.

[@majin2405]

If the Sigma player see's this dont listen to people who did not que your role or just outright be insulting. Focus on your game brother from one tank main to another. (Also I had a game where we gor rolled and I had the most elims/dmg and the Solider player who constantly ran in a straight line and went 2/10 calls me a bad a tank 🥹)

[@notsosaltygator]

he did great fr

[@poisonedduchess6211]

i would say probably 4/5 times the problem on a team is usually the dps. but man they dont wanna hear it and blame literally anyone else

[@isaiahf-d846]

I feel like they're also the ones who think tank and support are so busted they can't be killed failing to realize they just don't know how to kill

[@stephen6503]

would love to see you go back and do a recap of the junkrat's gameplay throughout that match.

[@jennanuh6781]

As dps I want this tank lol

[@azurewing1284]

6:28 Funny that this happened to me. I was playing on Havana and I figured out that I have a strange issue with lag where it only happens at the start of a round, but usually ends before the game actually starts. Not this game. I had 1 frame/second for 30 seconds at the start of the game (0 damage the whole time) and my lucio started flaming me and saying they hated me. I appologized, they just said "No." I was losing it. The last round, I got like 5 DVA Bombs in the span of like, 4 minutes (each with a Double Kill), without dying and holding the point at the first spawn for that long. They were flaming me during that. We ended up losing. Not to say I didn't deserve SOME anger towards me, but it was ridiculous. (Wow, I ended up on a rant, didn't I? My bad.)

[@dylanmortimer5815]

My least favourite thing about calling diffs in general is that many people will call it based off of stats. The obvious problem with this is that 9 times out of 10, the winning team will have better stats, and they don't necessarily reflect the individuals performance.

[@ObsidianQuasar]

Maybe after being gone so long they may not have remembered that most teammates in lower ranks are toxic.

[@pinoyjona]

Recently watched a video from Flats where we spectate a dmg hero and they accuse the tank is the problem yet the tank is the GOAT. Now seeing where the another dps blaming the tank but from what we see, it’s more the dps is diff and tank is the GOAT

[@ForgetfulUser]

I love how Ana consistently gave him nano

[@isaiahf-d846]

also the fact they supported the tank so they didn't feel bad when your supports compliment on tank you you know you're doing fine or well enough

[@Kaltsit-]

Dude that one part where he ulted the Kiri and got nanoed and got the Junkrat, the only reason he lost that fight was because his team died and wasn’t with him or made their own bad decisions or positions. This is why I focus on my gameplay in reference to others. How could I position myself better. What could I have done.

[@deployed246]

Humorously, a lot of the strength of the opposing tank came from getting charged up so often, which I would wager mostly came from the Junk/Phar splash damage. Yes, Sig charged it a lot too, its expected from his primary fire, but at least they interrupted a ton of Doom's blocks to compensate.

[@Kaltsit-]

This new mid season patch is now gonna mean that tank diff is the only way to win.

[@TheDragonKiller90]

that aim was really good and i didnt saw a tank diff there

[@darkseeker102]

Even when my team gets stomped and clearly someone did bad but tried I wont say anything people have bad games seeing tank, dps, sup diff is always annoying.

[@growingtogether35]

if someone is typing telling you that you're bad you can say similar about them you cant really type an shoot at the same time.

[@TheShapingSickness]

How is this guy gold, if he plays often like this he'll make it to diamond sooner than later.

[@JoseMendoza-dl4hg]

This Sigma was great! He was the cornerstone of the team and lead them to success! I pray sewer rat / pigeon rat didn't dishearten this guy too much because the game needs more tank players like this one.

[@stevegelec]

If anything the tank you’re reviewing of the play of was the better tank 🤷‍♂️ made other tank swap on both attack and defend and made some huge plays at important times. WP GG

[@serenajones7073]

That's crazy He's really dood. What's missing is follow up from his team.

[@Sevse-nh3fi]

Man you have to make a vid on how to use Sigma’s ult I struggle with it so bad

[@georgejohny4800]

So, from seeing this Sig play I realized that 1. I also play like him but right now I am trying to take up space as a tank but can't survive much because my teammates are all bunched up at the point 2. Sig is really good against almost all of the tanks, dps and supports as well. I mean I have found that many times I would go against supports as Sig and kill them off and probably not die (Yes probably. Many times I will die instantly). The only characters that can do something against him are, probably sombra, pharah (the way she is right now) and Junker Queen (Yeah I can't play against a good junker queen for some reason) and Winston too now

[@azseal2669]

This submitter's ingame name is amazing.

[@TheKillerman3333]

I would check the stats of the players for this game as well as future games as it does give more insight even if said stats don't normally matter😊

[@SplatastictheRealOne]

it's funny that either a dps or support would say it's a "Tank diff" despite the fact like what was said, that they don't play Tank and "somehow know". Yet Getting into position as a Tank is harder(varying) compared to either a support or some dps roles getting into position to help create pressure on the other team and in turn alieviate pressure on your side. sig played pretty decently, the Junkrat getting picked off it happens ik, but they could've been in a better position to spam the choke on the off angle from defense to be a nuiscence. generally i play rein on eichenwalde, cause it makes me curious with the match ups.

[@emmylee5093]

This makes me so sad cause this tank is GOOD for metal ranks and for not having played for seven years??? I'd love to heal for this Sig any day

[@metallikalm4336]

I have no idea what his team needed

[@tevinstrachan1421]

Even a Moira can go for the flank and try to take out atleast one healer or dps then dip. Stir up some chaos and draw their attention

[@isaiahf-d846]

as a moira main preach "a time to heal and a time to kill"

[@russellwilliams3659]

YES more YUPROCKS

[@grave.5254]

ALRIGHT SO ! 🗣️

[@duvvly]

I think this guy should work on hitting yep rocks more regularly

[@christianmaxwell2147]

It’s always the negative K/D attackers that start the trash talk. They are playing poorly, having a bad time, and really need someone to blame their poor performances on.

[@HereComesCats]

Sigma did great, we all saw that but gotta say the supports were great too. Mercy was clutch at times.

[@RealDragoth]

I think they did amazing for sigma ❤

[@arielkagamine3782]

The only time i ever tell my tank to do is, "play cover", " Your health is low" or if he play ramatra and low health, "block and play cover", because i just want them to get away from dps debuff and allow me and other supp to heal them at least half before they going in back again, Because most of the tank i meet always on dps debuff the whole time and not able to heal properly and then fall down, and scream HEALLL!???, when i literally spam all my resources on the tank Thats the only time i said something to tank, other than that, just usual comm

[@colbydorsey9418]

What does diff mean? New to overwatch but I see it a lot

[@thisngaq]

it means theirs a difference in tank skill which has become the default message for when you lose smh just blame the tank as if thats the only reason you lose lol

[@DJBaphomet]

Diff is just short for Difference/Differential, basically saying that "what won/lost us this was difference in "

[@pud469]

I love the people that get so mad. Like their SR is going to be the key factor in getting that big promotion. 95% of players are not playing OW2 to support their life. Video games are recreational. Enjoy the good moments, and take the bad, as they wont have any impact on your life.

[@ezbgambler]

bros mechanics are really good for gold

[@russellwilliams3659]

Also as someone who admittedly allows the tilt to overcome me when I shouldn’t I have no issue flaming when appropriate but in this instance I genuinely don’t get what this player did wrong

[@TheRoseReaper]

Nah that's some plat plays right there. All that takes is a little fine tuning and he'd be up in probably diamond by next week.

[@fahmigul1]

I love ur vid

[@theprometheu5]

I think dps players should be chatbanned until they go above 2.0 K/D

[@slashercat]

This Sigma is nasty, wtf?

[@Kaggles-ih3pu]

This is gold? No way

[@diogosousa7698]

oh so another game that the tank can't even play so do speak because the dps cannot kill a thing i have seen that happend way to much

[@HYDROMANY98]

I have a BIG FEELING HES WATCHING THE GAMEPLAY FROM THE ENEMY PROSPECTIVE AND ITS ACTUALLY THE DOOMFIST WHO SENT IN THE GAMEPLAY BUT HE LIKED THE SIGMA BETTER AND FOR ALL WE KNOW THATS HOW IT WORKS WITH EVERY VIDEO

[@talissucks7182]

wish i had this guy as my tank, most plat tanks think they’re good at the game now so they 1v5 their back line never come back to the team and die, so wp sig