Did Unwin Peake Kill The Queen? House Of The Dragon History & Lore Dance Of The Dragons (Aegon iii)

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@WorldOfWesteros
@WorldOfWesteros Жыл бұрын
hope you all had a nice holiday, can't believe it's almost the new year. Anyhow just a quick note that the comment filtering KZbin sometimes does is very broken right now and it is false flagging a lot of comments as inappropriate even though 1) there not and 2) i turned filtering off. So a lot of random comments in longer comment threads might disappear. I saw some of you having some very high spirted debates about if someone had deleted and tried to hide comments when they were losing an argument so just wanted to let you all know the flagging system is being overzealous right now. I am keeping an eye on it. Anyway tomorrow im going catch up on comments and will check the filter then
@dippy8053
@dippy8053 Жыл бұрын
can you pin my long comment up top?
@smokingmirror8482
@smokingmirror8482 Жыл бұрын
Unwin Peak was such an opportunist and it is incredible he had the balls to make his daughter Queen without consulting anyone about it.
@dippy8053
@dippy8053 Жыл бұрын
It is very possible that he killed Jaehaera but if she killed herself than that would not be a surprise either. Her mother and her siblings are the only members of the Greens my heart truly breaks for. Even though Alicent and the Greens got what they deserved for their scheming by their bloodline dying out, it still sucks that Helaena and her children had to pay the unfair price of their family’s ambitions. Had the civil war never started the Greens would still be alive and be there powerful at court. If Alicent were not in captivity due to the war and the rest of her family were not conpletely decimated they undoubtedly would have been able to protect her from a scumbag like Unwin Peake murdering her. And she wouldn’t have gone through so much trauma to bring herself to commit suicide if she truly did.This is the last domino of the Green faction and I hope they keep Alicent alive a little bit longer to know that this is the price that her and Otto pay for the scheming they did -- the decimation of all the Greens in just a meager 4 years from 129AC-133AC. Even though this event is poetic justice for the Greens I absolutely HATE that it had be an innocent girl that was forced to pay for the cruelty of war. Alicent and the rest of them could’ve protected her from Unwin had they not been defeated and killed at war and she would have been spared all the trauma she witnessed and not killed herself. No matter which way it happened it all traces back to the start of war and the political scheming that took place and set these events in motion for people to be weaker, more vulnerable, and traumatized.
@hyo3884
@hyo3884 Жыл бұрын
iirc Alicent was removed from Jahaera because it was found that she was encouraging her granddaughter to kill Aegon.
@dippy8053
@dippy8053 Жыл бұрын
@@hyo3884 yes i know she was removed by Tyland Lannister because she could not accept the new regime of Aegon iii
@rexxdarealest1
@rexxdarealest1 Жыл бұрын
It always kills me when the children have to pay the price. I still lose it when I think of Shrireen Baratheon.
@adib3011
@adib3011 Жыл бұрын
Alicent dies of an epidemic. It also took thousands others, including tyland Lannister. Who was replaced by Unwin Peake.
@sandromnator
@sandromnator Жыл бұрын
Dumb. The Greens had a point to "rebel", Rhaenyra had no real claim to the throne because she was a woman. Also she was a whore that tried to pass off her bastards as real Velaryon and legitimate. I'm glad she was able to see her lies disappear one by one before she became dragon poop.
@gopalkrishnan3196
@gopalkrishnan3196 Жыл бұрын
Unwin Peake should send his daughter to king's chamber(like otto) before his open offer at the council. Atleast 12 y old boy Aegon lll has enough courage and stable mind to question unwin's intentions/offers, unlike Viserys l who already decides his heir still falls on Otto's trap, rejected council's advice to marry Leana, married his daughter's best friend, produced 3 more sons/heirs, man literally finished House targaryen and their Dragons.
@Paul_W_222
@Paul_W_222 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. She was definitely murdered. Great video.
@lyndsaybrown8471
@lyndsaybrown8471 Жыл бұрын
With all that happens in Aegon III's rule, I hope it does get at least a season. And with everyone crazed for White Lotus, maybe this medieval murder mystery could keep everyone's attention, even without war.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I'd ever see the Peakes as not villainous. They schemed to have the Manderlys kicked out of the rich. The gloating of putting five castles in the sigil also rub me the wrong way.
@TraciPeteyforlife
@TraciPeteyforlife Жыл бұрын
If Peake did kill the little Queen. He could have done it in a more gentler way. He was a monster in many ways. The fact he allowed his daughter at age 12 be married and try to bare a child is sick.
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 Жыл бұрын
Unwin was a man who given a lot pressure to prevent another civil war and considering that the Green and Black still remember one other slights and grievances, and no doubt that Unwin wanted to make sure that he was at the winning side of the legit king in Aegon iii and if that meant that the Little Queen had to die then she was will die.
@anitat9727
@anitat9727 Жыл бұрын
Peake was a green. So it was likely he was just a social climber
@imtired3861
@imtired3861 Жыл бұрын
Nah he was just a power hungry scum who wished to use the very traumatised young aegon for his own personal goals.
@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl
@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl Жыл бұрын
7 kids only 1 survive talk about a tough life but he brushes it off like it’s nothing what a cruel bastard..
@sockmonkeyjg
@sockmonkeyjg Жыл бұрын
I needed this as a good palette cleanser (other Fandoms had me down) so when breaking this down you need to go classic Sherlock on it Means, motive and opportunities The means seem simple, even assuming his brother didn't then he has other tools Motive is even simpler power! He wanted to marry his daughter to the king while checking baelars power Opportunity is the toughest one, did he have it sure but I can't help but wonder if it wasn't MADE to look this way that maybe an invisible hand was purposely putting the blame on him while simultaneously checking his check I don't think it was above suspect that one of the twins did the deed, if daemon was alive then we would all suspect it was him, while I dont think they hated her I do think the following Means I am willing to put out they have similar connections to their father as one of them was known to drink Motive the young queen was on borrowed time at best and anyone with eyes could see that the hand was making moves to puppet the king and they didn't need a stupider version of otto around Opportunity with access to secret tunnels it almost seems too perfect that the kings brother was outside at the time Look at it from the outside his desparate grab for power was noted and VERY quickly checked, a damaged queen was removed and peakes power disappeared soon after Honestly I think this is a very well played move by the twins and worthy of their father
@thegreatpage5912
@thegreatpage5912 Жыл бұрын
Since the show is not likely to make it this far, I think the tv universe of Jaehara will live and be composited with Daenara Velaryon's role in the book.
@renzobendrell2167
@renzobendrell2167 Жыл бұрын
I would like it too. It would symbolic of how futile the whole war was. But knowing how pro rhaenyra is the show, the will kill her
@frittatas8551
@frittatas8551 2 ай бұрын
I have been watching this whole series from the beginning, but the Peakes really do give me the most ick.
@pitakon
@pitakon Жыл бұрын
This deserves to be answered in hbo.
@MJC1891
@MJC1891 Жыл бұрын
Another good one bud. Lady turnips lol.
@506Edai
@506Edai Жыл бұрын
Any videos on peake's downfall?
@BaltimoreKid1996
@BaltimoreKid1996 Жыл бұрын
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she was murdered/suicide overall still tragic all around for the poor child her whole family dead and married at such a young age poor Jeaherea.
@SpottedHares
@SpottedHares Жыл бұрын
Personally I think he was scheming to get rid of the little queen, but got lucky and she offed her self first.
@0307scott
@0307scott Жыл бұрын
I do think that Unwin Peake had Queen Jaeheara killed, just so he could have his own daughter crowned Queen. Especially when you factor in the Kingsguard who was outside her door that night, as well as what Mervin Flowers & Amore Peake did later on in Aegon III's Regency. There is more evidence that Jaeheara was murdered than there was for the death of her own mother Helena, who I do believe threw herself to her own death in grief and madness. The chief suspect of killing Helena was Luther Largent commander of the city watch at the time but it was impossible for him to have killed Helena since he was in the East Watch Barracks drinking with his men. House Peake is a House of traitors who later fought for & supported the Blackfyres throughout all 5 Blackfyre Rebellions, King Maekar would also be killed during the siege of Starpike making them partly responsible for the death of the King. We know from evidence in the books that members of House Peake are against fabricating evidence to discredit or accuse someone of committing crimes, also House Peake resent how far their House has fallen since the death of their ancestor who died on the Field of Fire along with Mern IX Gardner (who was also an idiot for taking his entire male line with him to fight Aegon and his sisters with their 3 dragons).
@WorldOfWesteros
@WorldOfWesteros Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail of the head 100%. Given what we know of house peake, unwin himself and the circumstance of Jaeheara's death, i can't see another option really
@sankarkrishnan407
@sankarkrishnan407 Жыл бұрын
Unwin Peake used the opportunity but I think he didn't kill the Queen he hadn't that gutts mostly it was a suicide. Lady Cassandra Baratheon may have some hand in that plot. Her later actions were very suspicious.
@dmcboi
@dmcboi Жыл бұрын
If Aegon has half a brain cell he will execute Unwin during his majority in fire and blood 2
@tereza1959
@tereza1959 Жыл бұрын
I like that during Jaehaerys reign, he convinced the people of Westeros that Targaryens are superior and can't be killed like common humans, but during and after the Dance, we see the Targaryens being killed and manipulated by the people they considered inferior. I don't hate the Targaryens but man I love seeing how karma affects them 😆
@thetalesofelbek7042
@thetalesofelbek7042 Жыл бұрын
Jaehaerys never told that. The doctrin of exceptionalism is about Targaryens being another rave and gave their their own customs like incest (only between dragonlord families), it is to show that targs are different and not to be judged by andal traditions.
@anitat9727
@anitat9727 Жыл бұрын
The dance exposed the Targs. They went from being god like to just regular nobles - no dragons, the ability to get sick, etc.
@thetalesofelbek7042
@thetalesofelbek7042 Жыл бұрын
@@anitat9727 they never considered themselves as gods and they got sick even before the dance. But everyone has to kno that they are different , different race and their blood is magical.
@isaiahdaddys9379
@isaiahdaddys9379 Жыл бұрын
Great video, best of luck in 2023!
@isaiahdaddys9379
@isaiahdaddys9379 Жыл бұрын
Love the artwork for Tessario as well. Can’t wait until you get to the Lysene Spring.
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
Poor lady turnips
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, Jaehaera may have lived if Viserys had returned sooner.
@quantado9411
@quantado9411 Жыл бұрын
yeah how can she die easily like that when the kings guard always posted outside they knew
@anitat9727
@anitat9727 Жыл бұрын
"Lady Turnips"
@aaroncohen2700
@aaroncohen2700 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@katarzynaowczarek3297
@katarzynaowczarek3297 Жыл бұрын
I think it's quite possible
@chrisrubin6445
@chrisrubin6445 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@greenplumblossom8899
@greenplumblossom8899 Жыл бұрын
It was either Baela or Rhaena lol
@johlbenedict4960
@johlbenedict4960 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if tv HOTD ENDS WITH BLACKFYRES
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
Yep he killed her
@faisalkamal4319
@faisalkamal4319 Жыл бұрын
Lady turnips 😂
@svoba4af
@svoba4af Жыл бұрын
Frankly! I would never forgive Martin for Jaehaera. Her being the mother if Aegon's children would make things more interesting but no, he decided that only Rhaenyra's and Daemon's rancid genes would continue and gave Aegon perfect little wife (she served no other purpose). With that said, they probably have Jaehaera in the series only to have their War of the Roses sort if happy ending. You know, the ending Martin cancelledin the canon.
@svoba4af
@svoba4af Жыл бұрын
@@overthemotorway That's my friging point. Both Jaehaera and Daenera are unimportant now. Her only purpose after inventing Daenera was to die, a death nobody in-verse cared about, not even the Higtowers. All because George wanted to once again make again the "the world is too cruel for children, teehee" statement. Interesting how ALL of the children of his favorite Daemon survived then :D
@jkelsey555
@jkelsey555 Жыл бұрын
UnWIN Peak-performance did nothing wrong and this is all slander
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