Did We Go There? Vicki Butler-Henderson's Worst Classic Cars of All Time Revealed

[@boronsniify]

Re. The cost of the cars mentioned: you don’t need to spend hugely to have fun. My $2,500 daily driver Karmann Ghia is 53 years old and doesn’t handle very well, or go very fast, but is just so charming and fun. Gets better reactions than the expensive stuff in my experience…It’s a 356 on the cheap (at least that’s what I tell myself).It’s nice, but not pristine, so I don’t worry about parking it and bits are readily available for same prices. Wish I’d known years ago that you don’t need an expensive vehicle to get such enjoyment!

[@danmayberry1185]

The "Austin" Marina was massively popular in Canada

[@MorningNapalm]

The problems with classic Porsches are mostly that they went through a cheap phase, and people have neglected them. They are normally quite reliable and affordable to run.

[@stringer-ik1pc]

And they slag British cars of the 70s off. Never driven or owned a french or talian car from the 70s ???? Clichéd shit this

[@sdry1688]

Ouch! Motoring Faux Pas - It was a Reliant Regal in OFAH .

[@numberstation]

It believe it was specifically a Reliant Supervan.

[@soundhub2852]

Entertaining. Love Vicki and a simple amusing quiz to round off.

[@jeremyfdavies]

The problem with you all is that you’re fixated at Histoirics in a snobbish way by such a few bijoux marks, such as Porsche/Aston/Mercedes etc. It’s maybe a result of you only thinking what will sell? There’s no real consideration of the merits or otherwise of classic cars. And that jokey approach to the subject “really” grates. Sorry guys,.

[@HistoricsAuctions]

Please give us some Marks to discuss as we'll include them where possible!

[@simonpark7026]

@@HistoricsAuctions Dear God, they're a boring bunch. Next...

[@jeremyfdavies]

@@HistoricsAuctions OK… if we take then Farnborough auction, for a start there was that Beacham Jaguar. Then the Mustang Mach 1 wasn’t that bad, it had potential, the Facel Vega was gorgeous, the VW bus was stunning, and that sweetheart Caravelle (got to declare an interest, it was mine) is just so iconic and of its time. Rant over.

[@HistoricsAuctions]

​@@jeremyfdavies This is brilliant feedback Jeremy, thank you ever so much! We did feature the Facel Vega on the Historics Instagram account if it's of interest to you. All the best!

[@roobarb8463]

@@HistoricsAuctions It would also be quite nice to see some of the cars they are talking about. Its visually a little dull just watching the three of them chatting away.

[@davidmwood560]

In the 61 years of my clean licence driving experience; I've had an awful lot of 'classic' cars. From Rolls Royces to MG Midgets. My daily driver is an 18 year old Lexus GS300 SE-L which is a truly amazing car; but to be honest, I'd be hard pressed to name the best classic. 3litre Vauxhall Senators have to be in the list. Along with Rover P5b, the saloon, not the coupe. My budget won't run to a Ferrari, but show me a Ferrari that can catch a Nissan R32 GTR Skyline anyway. my last R32 would do in excess of 200mph! I don't think there is such a thing as a 'worst' classic car; simply because owners bring their cars up to the very best they can be. It's just a matter of personal choice. For instance; I'm about to buy a '94 Lincoln Town Car; it's in fabulous condition and with its 4·6 litre Mustang engine it should go rather well too. I doubt any of you would entertain such a car, but it's my choice, and for me, nothing else matters.

[@ralph007silver]

The original price, or status, of a car from over 30 years ago is completely irrelevant. THEY ALL RUSTED AWAY no matter whom the manufacturer was.

[@ianmontgomery7534]

I am glad I am in Australia -rust is less of a problem. My daily driver is a 1999 Ford with no rust except for a couple of bubbles around the windscreen which I have just touched up.

[@fredheffernan5422]

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[@ianmontgomery7534]

I once drove a BMW520 home from work with little or no foot brake. I used the gears and the handbrake to stop.

[@johnmadden2421]

Motoring "professionals" of all stripes regularly trash cars for not handling. Surely part of the fun of driving in a willing manner is overcoming a vehicles cornering abilities. Part of my driving education was hurrying a 1958 Morris Oxford Estate. Its virtue was that it would slide in such a lumbering fashion that there was plenty of time for a tyro to rescue it. Most cars are not intended to go fast round corners and off a race track it is probably reckless to try. It is worth looking at standard production racing in the 1970s to see which cars were successful in their (usual capacity) class. New Zealand in particular throws up winners like Vauxhall Victors (2 litre or better, 3.3 litre) and Chrysler Valiants.

[@gileshalliwell3591]

Only Fools’ Van was a Regal not a Robin! Had enough of experts.

[@boronsniify]

I noticed that, too! Regal Supervan III ….

[@rogerking7258]

Quite correct - and a couple of years ago I took my Frogeye to a "classic car show" at Duxford during a flying day. To say I was surprised to find there were only four of us there (Frogeye, 1960s Cadillac Eldorado, Morris 10 and Reliant Regal saloon) is an understatement. We had a good day though, but guess which vehicle got far and away the most attention - Yup, the Reliant.

[@davidgibbings6085]

These guys .? They are supposed to know about cars ? Trotters had a regal like you say , and not a later robin , both were shit these guy should know this 😡

[@mandst5466]

VBH has the best smile and laugh, didn’t really listen to the chaps 🤣

[@brianoreilly2911]

Bit of a posh love in for me

[@totallyclips]

I saw a reliant robin go round a corner once, and seconds later the driver came running back, we went to see what had happened and there was a moldering mess on the floor and all was left was a chassis engine and three wheels looked like it had been vaporized by a laser gun

[@boronsniify]

It’s the overall enjoyment of the vehicle and balance of it’s qualities- handling is important in my newer vehicles - Maserati and Porsche, but I equally enjoy pootling about in my old Karman Ghia or ‘63 Corvette these days and would love an SM for its combination of comfort and design…

[@The-Sea-Dragon-1977]

The point is that classic cars are not rational. One of my favourite sights at the NEC Classic show was the Austin Maxi owners club celebrating it’s 55th birthday. Hard not to smile at people celebrating a car’s birthday. 😊

[@TP-3000]

Seem to remember Vicki borrowed a Suzuki vitara off me in Barbados once!

[@TP-3000]

@@oscarwilde5473 no, she was dating a family friend at the time

[@aggie3344]

Great show as always 😃

[@davidclarke7728]

Astons are overpriced for the name and a Mercedes with an Aston body, Mk2 3.8 the best Jag of that era

[@andygtv]

Retirement cars

[@ianmontgomery7534]

Is the UK like Australia - traffic reports are constantly saying that a vehicle has turned over. Is it an SUV disease.

[@FABWaldorf]

Fergus Dublin Ireland Brilliant show. Looking forward to next one!

[@workman122]

Well that was a load of pointless waffle.

[@r6ymy]

VBH is gold. Agree on Vauxhalls being mostly joyless. Tom, please stop pronouncing coupe as "coop", especially in the context of a Ferrari, you're not American!

[@keystonedriving8180]

Not just joyless, poorly built, too. Every new version they promised better build quality but it never happened.

[@andygtv]

More interesting if you talked about cars under £100,000

[@lordleonusa]

Telling me what I must and mustn't do? Who on earth do they think they are?

[@martynpriddy1006]

Good analysis of some questionable vehicle's, agree Vauxhall range never felt like a 'drivers car' Corsa SRI, Astra GTE, Cavalier SRI etc unless passed to Lotus. The Carlton/Senator ranges were their best. Back in 60s/70s there was a heavy American influence (Cresta etc) perhaps there was an American approach to handling!

[@jeremywentworth1833]

Nothing wrong with a 16V GTE Astra & another red top the Cavalier GSi 2000 which I owned both in my 20s , I loved them both particularly the GSi 2000.

[@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67]

I loved my Vauxhall Calibrate,I loved it until it rained and I tried to turn either way above 17mph. Frustrating for a 19 yo who need to travel at 98mph at all times!!

[@ashb8508]

Worse classic exotics - every Maserati / Ferrari / Lambo to 2012. Especially GranTurismo & 360.

[@SimonParkes-ud4jn]

They sold a lot of Marinas (including one to my parents) because pretty much everything else was terrible too. There was a reason gold was a popular colour in the 1970s - it hid the rust. All my friends dads (and my own) were experts at using chicken wire and filler to deal with holes in wings, doors and just about everything else. A dreadful period for “normal” cars.

[@ColinGarner-h1t]

VBH luvvy , it’s an age thing but I don’t want to go sideways round a corner it want to waft in sheer comfort I.e. Citroen DS 23 efi .

[@gileshalliwell3591]

Yes! And in France when their roads were bad they could fly too and they were supremely comfortable…

[@marcbrasse747]

Would my Verte Vega colored, well kept, patina’d ‘96 XM turbo CT be allowed to join?

[@ColinGarner-h1t]

@@marcbrasse747 yes .

[@marcbrasse747]

@@ColinGarner-h1t Thank you! 😁

[@AdamMcCool-01]

This is a club I’d rather not join if you don’t mind 🤔 Citroen??? 🙄🤣

[@marcbrasse747]

Some things never change. I drove a 23 Corsa during a holiday in Northern Spain about a month ago. Never again! Talking about lack of feedback. Its software actually resists certain inputs that could be important for your safety!

[@WolfiePeters]

Possibly the worst, certainly the most disappointing for me was the Mercedes 300SL Gullwing.

[@manofweed1]

Think the Daytona we had once would rival it for awfulness. Despite its reputation, the thing drove like a cumbersome bus !

[@johnnyboy1586]

When Vicky said one of the worst cars was the rover 100 I was thinking of the p4 modles and thought surely not! Then found out she meant the metro 100😅😅

[@ericdunn555]

The classic Austin Allegro was NEVER "beige" - it was HARVEST GOLD❗

[@jb3222]

The Mk3 incarnation of the Allegro definitely did come in beige - we had one, and although the BL brochure called it champagne it was resolutely beige! Coincidentally, at the same time we had a harvest gold Maxi, which was a relatively rich shade of mustard!

[@elemar5]

5:25 It's a Reliant Regal Vicki. :)

[@thomasheuer1916]

Don't know what happened to any Alfa Sud. Haven't seen one since coming back to Aus in the late 90's.

[@billmago7991]

if these cars are duds, then they're not "classics" ,they're old bombs

[@ericerven5456]

Great show - California resident here coming to Ascot for the March 1st auction based on your KZbin presentations!

[@HistoricsAuctions]

Thank you all for your comments!

[@AndreaPriddy]

Great vid 👏🏼

[@leebridge9187]

I loved my Nova but have to agree with Vicki. The rubbish geometry to supposedly make them safe was awful. Astras were so underwhelming. They put powerful engines in them but they were wooden feeling. I also think that the Civic Type R EP3 is very overrated. Collectable now but nothing nothing, nothing, cam, quick change, nothing, nothing, nothing. They also rust like buggery and dent if you look at them.

[@ianmontgomery7534]

Vicki - Just get a VXR8!

[@Phuc_Yhou]

Another 3 boring presenters give a bias view in a podcast style video 💩

[@user-jal99]

Each to their own. We all have different tastes and desires. Clearly the presenters opinions will never match with everyone’s, but I’m not sure it’s worth putting these presenters opinions out there at all.

[@bebobism]

"You must follow us " , "KZbin sensation " . . . Mnnaaa I'm done.

[@robertwalker1742]

Italian electrics, its lump of pasta.

[@terryjacob8169]

Joseph Lucas weren't much better.

[@chrisparsons7043]

Porsche Caymman is a rare car??? 😂😅😊

[@andysaunders3708]

Please add the Triumph Toledo to the "worst list".

[@artistglyn]

I think you have the wrong title. there are 'classic' cars and there are cars that are 'collectable'. Classic cars ar things like XK120's, Alvis TD, MGTFs, Triumph TRs etc. Alegros and Marinas are mass produced cars for the family man and were built for that purpose. They may be 'collectable', but never a classic.

[@amazulu3401]

Got to agree, Defenders are appalling. Prototype number one had a centralized steering wheel because it was designed to replace a tractor. Trouble is when they moved the steering wheel to the left or right they didnt widen the body, so no arm room….. ever. You have to drive with the window open so not designed to be driven in the rain. Also never designed to be driven on tarmac. Just awful. Built for probably 40 years too long. Get some common sense and buy a Discovery 1 or 2. Just as capable and far more pleasant to drive. And not so ridiculously over priced !

[@MorningNapalm]

I wanted to give a like, but the count is currently at 911, my favourite car, so I can't.

[@BarryRudge]

Another Vauxhall that was a nice car in its day was a 1960's FA model VX/490 .

[@chrisparsons7043]

No such car mate, FB 4/90 onwards

[@BarryRudge]

@@chrisparsons7043 you're right I meant the FB model

[@thomasheuer1916]

Old doesn't mean "classic "

[@beelancaster8115]

The " Only Fools " Van was a Regal NOT a Robin , Worst classic and worst car of all time is the German widow maker Porsche 911 , if i wanted a vehicle with an engine behind me i would buy a Bob Cat ,

[@ianmontgomery7534]

fancy Poms not coming up with Zephyr or Zodiac!!!

[@colinpiper4386]

Rover 3.5 PB5 coupe. Fabulous classic

[@delmilligan4584]

Vick is better qualified than any of these guys tbh zzz. Sorry

[@Dave5843-d9m]

Hydraulic Citroens got a bad name but we’re no worse than anything else for rust and the hydraulics were great. Just fix the rust and treat the internal cavities.

[@djefferson02]

Vicki's dirty shoes??

[@Bobd1979]

Lotus Lada, one of one

[@getinthevantim]

Z? Easy....The Daimler Golden Zebra by Hooper!

[@jimpie231]

This is about European cars…….hmmm? As a USA driver since 1965, I’m surprised that this video made it to the USA. My opinion of these cars was not much. The early Saabs (1950’s) were cute but not for the USA. The Porches of the 50’s were ok. The rest were at best poor, except the Sunbeam Tigers. The Alpha Romeo’s good for 3 years and then rust heaps. The others that made it here were about as good as the Jugo’s. Need I say more? PS: The XKE’s in the 60’s, were cute, but only for the rich, too costly to maintain. PPS: Most Europeans do not use their cars on a daily basis, here in the USA cars are used daily. We drive them, not look at them.

[@borderlands6606]

Nearly bought a Sunbeam Tiger back in the 80s. Great price. Still kicking myself.

[@billmago7991]

so true in the US you dont have much choice, non existant public transport, rail infrustructure falling apart, cities and towns built only for cars combined with the tyranny of distance,smaller cars are off the menu

[@Elektoos]

What a beautiful way to show how little one knows of what happens outside ones own bellybutton. Spoken like a true American.

[@richardb7209]

The version of this video for American cars is 147 hours long

[@mathewpriddy3555]

Great pod shame about our knowledge of the alphabet 😂

[@worldofrandometry6912]

A classic from 2021?

[@stephenboitoult8774]

Vauxhall build great engines but can't make a handling chassis for toffee. I solve this by using Vauxhall engines in my Triumph bodies, thus annoying 2 sets of enthusiasts at once!

[@mynewbrain]

Can’t you just post a list instead of making us listen to a bunch of drivel for nearly an hour?

[@1946FordDeluxe]

Opel Monza 3L 24v GSE

[@kristallpalats]

Morris Marina was a good car, or at least decent. It´s purely a british thing this constant mocking of the Marina. Outside Britain it doesn´t have a worse reputation than other british cars. But as Britain was a superpower in cars they have anxiety for their car industry that disappeared so they blame the cheap supposed best sellers for the fall. Of course Marina & Allegro had difficulties replacing the 1100/1300 which was the most sold car in 60s Britain, but they weren't even close to as bad as some brits nowadays say.

[@MENSA.lady2]

Take the engine from a Maserati 3300 asnd stuff it the back of a VW Beetle. Job done.

[@chrisparsons7043]

Same old bollocks from people with money and no real knowledge. Marina - rubbish, Vauxhall - rust blah blah blah.

[@iancullington6765]

You've lost me, not just because I'm a Maserati fan, but what was said about the 'modern' Maserati's like 4200s is so far off the truth, I can't take anything else you say seriously... gave up after that

[@Toby_the_Glen]

What exactly is Tom Exton a KZbin 'expert' on?

[@TGE]

Winding you up :)

[@settertwo]

Snobs ........

[@marcbrasse747]

She ages well!

[@neilgordon6450]

VBH….legend

[@ishz3260]

All early vws were shite. Breaking down all the time. Yet today they worth big money.

[@keithvers569]

Viva HC

[@CarsandCakes]

This was of no benefit to anyone. It was waffle. Firstly she contradicts her self with the MG and Rover as it was badge engineering. Is this supposed to be about classics? I have owned over 270 cars since I was 16, now 61. These range from Austin's, Morris's, 3 Porsches, 924, 928 and 356, 17 Mercedes-Benz's, Fiat's, Alfa's and 3 Skoda's. Would be interesting to know what you are basing you information on. There are a lot of car snobs around who think there car is the best. People who don't have a lot of funds still can enjoy cars without being looked down on. I wouldn't own a Ferrari as I don't want one. Waste of time this episode, and yes get the models right.

[@seinsmeld13]

What is this KIT you speak of????????/

[@garychilds1130]

TVR is the worst car

[@JSDesign.Hongkong]

Ffs the two guys sit with their legs spread apart, and the one of the left of the screen cannot even sit up straight. 🤮

[@TGE]

I have a back issue. Find that more comfortable. But thank you so much for your cheery input!

[@jamesspeytebroodt7237]

marina allagro metro reliant robin ford pinto

[@malcolmnicholls2893]

Had a Marina. Not rusty! Would've been a good car if they had copied Ford's mechanical ideas. Nuts.

[@martinreed5964]

experts ...lol

[@ab6026]

🥱

[@robertdennis9075]

boring

[@graemekeenan]

Not an original thought here classic cars are personal slagging off marinas and allegros yawn

[@guydavies3035]

This is NOT American, therefore the e is pronounced in coupé, a coop is a house for hens.

[@cheharrison7107]

Thought this would be a good replacement for Car and classics much missed videos with Chris Pollett and the Project Binky bloke discussing auction cars....but no, not even close, you just come across as car snob, Yawn 🥱

[@isolationstation5157]

What a waste of 28 minutes! Yawn...