Did You Get the Bagel Memo? | The West Wing

"The Pollyanna act is not wearing well."
Season 5 Episode 4: Han
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[@sarahbingham1921]

I've just realised - they don't know the price of milk... but what drew Toby into his campaign was when, as Governor, Jed straight up said he had hosed the dairy farmers in order to not make it harder for poor people to buy milk...

[@ashwinoashwin]

Nice catch! I think Toby was already onboard. That remark made Josh come on board!

[@sarahbingham1921]

@@ashwinoashwin yes, you're right - long time since I watched that clip. I remember the man eating jelly and ice cream!

[@christopherofarrell8665]

Josh really never learned that the other branches of the US Government were *equal* to the executive through the show. It blew up badly in his face several times in the way he essentially looked to dictate to Congressional Democrats how things were going to be and expected to be obeyed, that they are a supporting act who should be grateful to serve at the pleasure of the President. It bit him in the ass on a few occasions just like here. Once so much so he almost got fired and did get sidelined for a while, but he never really learned the humility and that he had to sit at the tables with them as if they were equals to the President at this moment in time. He always shoved his foot into his mouth and then had to be dragged back by Leo, he could have been so much more effective if he had just matured a little...

[@moose2577]

Hope they show the clip of Bartlett giving the speech where they put the shit-talking version in the teleprompter. 😂

[@timweaver7826]

That was hilarious.

[@pibbitybibbity]

I miss this show. I’d love to see something this good and this well written on television again. It was lightning in a bottle.

[@paulbryan6716]

Agree 100%. Everything on tv these days is that woke DEI trash.

[@pibbitybibbity]

@@paulbryan6716 This show had all the elements of DEI in it over time. That’s one of the things that made it a great show because it was inclusive and all kinds of different people were represented.

[@vickenator]

I appreciate the subtle touches on this show, like the bottle of antacid prominently on Amy's desk.

[@FlameKoRn]

They cut the best part where they make fun of Russell

[@Truckergregg]

The best part was Amy !!!

[@AlexTurpin]

This channel is really good at that

[@onlopine]

That’s how they get you. 😅

[@tzzzzzb6129]

This is funny and significant that Bartlett doesnt know the price of milk, because as governor, he passed some laws to make milk cheaper.

[@hanscombe72]

The New England Dairy Farming Compact! “You guys got rogered but good.” The moment that Josh Lyman realised that Bartlett was the real deal.

[@chuckoneill2023]

I don't know the price of milk. Cause I'm lactose intolerant.

[@heddalee]

No, you're not.

[@belloutdoors5217]

​@@heddaleeyour mother

[@supernukey419]

@@belloutdoors5217 Gottem

[@MrDanlancelot]

I've never understood the whole "price of milk" or knowing "how much does a loaf of bread cost" thing. I understand very poor families who are really having to scrape by and save every penny they can, they will have been going over their costs with a magnifying glass and weighing up every choice. but for everyone else, they're necessities. you need them. at some point long in the past, you found one you liked at a good price and you've bought it ever since. you don't look at the price label or notice it on the receipt. it costs what it costs

[@Ellifiknow]

Did they have a limited electricity budget on this show? It's always dark.

[@TK-ge2gh]

Go back a few decades when televisions still has significant glare and not LED screens.

[@iluvsakuraandsyaoran]

i think it's more just the age of the technology? im not sure i've seen any show from the 80s/90s that looks "bright" indoors

[@heddalee]

@@iluvsakuraandsyaoran Friends. Also, Mad About You always surprised me by how bright the lighting seemed.

[@chuckoneill2023]

The White House is a very old building.

[@atocp]

Ever see X-Files? Could barely make out the faces of anyone

[@potterpotty01]

so hock a big lugey for bob russell! not the best choice, just what we're stuck with.

[@joshgeorge]

I’d take him right now 😂

[@heddalee]

@@joshgeorge You don't even know what a VPs job is, little one. Keep quiet.

[@joshgeorge]

@@heddalee *looks behind* are you talking to me? I’m not sure why. Or what you’re talking about. Cool.

[@heddalee]

@@joshgeorge Stay a flop, flop.

[@overly7997]

TED BENEKE

[@heddalee]

Please don't ever say that again.

[@dogkungfu8510]

Could this be more timely...

[@cranapple3367]

If we get a brokered convention out of this I'm pretty sure we'll be able to hear Aaron Sorkin's pleasured moans nationwide.

[@ashwinoashwin]

Does anyone know what Ryan did that made him vote Aye in the final vote? I remember him making a call and the scene cut from there!

[@shmakin5208]

And IFT 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@karenritcheydamon8009]

Too bad the whole series isnt on one of the streaming services im subscribed to

[@storyofcory]

I. ❤❤❤. Josh. And. Amy. 😍😎 What's next? 😏

[@PaperbackWizard]

I can understand the president not knowing, even Leo, but how can *none* of them know how much milk costs? Do they all pour champagne on their breakfast cereal? Do they all have assistants doing all their shopping for them?

[@fatman123526]

Even if they do their own shopping, all of them in a wealth tier that they just put what they want in the cart and don't have to overly pay attention to what it costs.

[@Kasparovwannabe]

It's less that they don't buy milk, it's just that none of them really have to pay attention to the price because it's never relevant to them. If they want milk they can all comfortably buy milk, they don't have to read the price tag. I don't know the price of all the stuff I buy. It's not gonna change what I'm getting, so I just pay whatever my total comes to. It's people on a much tighter budget who don't have that luxury.

[@HighMansx]

At some point you no longer care how much things cost and just grab whatever's there.

[@ohpurpled]

@@Kasparovwannabe I'd suggest that most people, even those on stricter budgets, don't particularly recall the specific prices of individual items like that, especially when put on the spot

[@ianboyle1026]

To affluent middle-class purchasers, even ones who do their own shopping, milk and other staples are just small items in the trolley. I have a vague idea of the price RANGE of a carton of milk, but knowing exactly isn't relevant to me, because I can always afford it. On a low income, the exact price of goods like that is vital knowledge.

[@keranschexnayder-bohne5127]

I watched The West Wing and not the debate last Thursday. It’s what we have with Biden. Trumpy should watch as an instruction video. 🇺🇸.

[@TK-ge2gh]

No irony that all of a sudden there is an official KZbin channel for this timeless series.

[@ruthmeb]

He wouldn't understand it. It contains difficult concepts for him like morality, principles and public service.

[@bmyattuk]

What the fuck is Wills keyboard made of, bubble wrap?

[@Cynthiatomaski-s4b]

It's about 20+ years old. That's how they were then.

[@KristineMaitland]

I don't know when this episode was aired but I am reminded that George H W Bush did not know what the price of milk was in 1992.

[@jackthezombiekiller]

at least a decade later

[@scotts.3089]

This scene is absolutely a reference to Bush. Truth be told, the economy wasn't terrible in 1992. But people were worried and Bush seemed to be out of touch, and both Clinton and Perot capitalized on the public anxiety.

[@macdonaldukah1680]

How could they cut out "The Triumph of the Middling"?

[@samsonitis1]

1st

[@antonbruce1241]

"You;'ve out someone second-rate next in line to a president with a serious health problem". Wow - I never knew West Wing was so prophetic about Kamala Harris and Joe Biden!!!

[@chemicalhap]

Didn't you get the cat lady memo?

[@DavZell]

You accidently put next in line, instead of the currently more likely, next.

[@jamesbarnesii4124]

The first really important decision that a president makes is who will be his vice president. Obama pick Biden. Biden became president and guided the US through the worst health crisis since 1913. Biden picked Kamilla Harris. Harris took over a campaign halfway through. She changed the focus reverse the polls and has thrown the Republican party into complete disarray. Donald Trump picked Mike Pence. Trump said pence was disloyal, low IQ and too honest. THEN he picked JD Vance if that still his name. Of the four names that he's had this is the least popular so he might change it again. Vance is rumored to have had intimate relationships with a couch, and is considered the worst vice presidential pick in the history of the United States.

[@BrianMeegan-k3e]

Trump, the paragon of youth, vitality and healthy eating 🤣🤣🤣

[@antonbruce1241]

@@BrianMeegan-k3e Tell us...did you support Joe Biden????