A conversation with Yanis Varoufakis on post-capitalism and the future of democracy | DiEM25

[@Sky-hz1cc]

A Greek in Turkey...how appreciative we are of you all to speak in English. Such paradigm changing ideas. Thank you.

[@MrRabnick]

Yea

[@josephyoung6749]

I was think the same hehe...

[@satyajitsheth4705]

yes 40:47 😅😅😅😅

[@49fiori]

Had other plans for the evening, but I guess I will watch Yanis now

[@4040tee]

@Berg Djelderian lol

[@chioma3100]

He is very informative. I needed to broaden my worldview.

[@buggerall]

This man has really been speaking to the people. When he explains something you can see him reconsider his explanation and expand on it. Very informative.

[@kemmmm2637]

College professor for 30 years

[@ljube01]

Great man with great heart, who help us understand and see. Appreciation and respect!

[@greenleaf1635]

This is such an excellent video. Capitalism for the poor, Socialism for the rich.

[@RockMacDonald23]

I am also very appreciative that these talks are given in English.

[@thomassimmons1950]

Yanis is the Last of the Spartans! Atheist or no, God bless this Noble soul!!!

[@thomassimmons1950]

@@georgegiannakouras9181 George, I meant that in a kind of metaphorical sense; like Last of the Mohicans. Don't agree with Yanis on everything for sure. But he seems like a solid bloke. Cheers, Sir!

[@thomassimmons1950]

@Berg Djelderian NOTHING...nothing but GOD...

[@thomassimmons1950]

@serendipidus1 What's the point mate?

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@serendipidus1 No.

[@veronicasanacion]

I was an atheist for over 40 years..until I saw things that changed my perception of life..If there are good god(esses) they surely love atheist, religious, and agnostic people

[@thegowerboy]

Brilliant mind.

[@michaeljoseph3528]

BRILLIANT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS HONEST.

[@thegowerboy]

@@michaeljoseph3528 And correct.

[@phildemetriou440]

@@thegowerboy Yea right, remind me what position in government he held in Greece when they went to rack and ruin ?

[@brianwheeldon4643]

A great talk. Very interesting relationships working between cooperatives, ownership shares, citizens' assemblies, and transnational parties. Thanks Yanis Varoufakis

[@josephinestabel9647]

Mr Varoufakis , high IQ and EQ 👈 Thanks for sharing this. 🌍

[@igotbeans2332]

3:02 lads

[@tarnopol]

@rusterpus111 That's where the actual interview (and English) starts. :)

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

Cheers.

[@RenaissanceShe]

Fantastic video - just the analysis I needed to listen to post election. Thank you. Would like to add Yanis, that at approx 1.14 in, your definition of universal basic income assumes that universal basic income will cause jealousy between the person getting up at 6am to go to work and the person not working. Universal means just that - every person gets a basic income, say, £1k per month. Earnings from work are on top of that, so the person who chooses to stay at home, perhaps painting because that is their talent, has income of £1k per month. However, the person who chooses to get up at 6am retains their basic income of £1k per month PLUS whatever they earn on top of that. A system like this would allow women to raise their own children instead of paying someone else to do it, allow people to consider career changes, allow people to care for sick relataives. A whole host of reasons why UBI could be better for society and arguably help to push up productivity?...

[@theskankingpigeon965]

Yeah you're right. I'm not sure why he was pitching the two ideas as in competition with one another. UBI would be a really good short-term tool when the Universal Dividend is in its infancy. I imagine his argument would be that UBI wouldn't lead to the structural democratic changes he thinks are necessary. UBI is just spreading money around a bit but retaining the same capitalist structure of our economy - people selling their labor to the capitalists and being exploited as wage laborers. The dividend would fundamentally change the ownership structure of corporations - it would gradually put the means of production into social ownership.

[@theicyridge]

Amazing talk.

[@MateoBlumer]

Yanis you're a legend!

[@MrLouladakis]

A Great Teacher!!!.

[@colaturkalures]

Legendary talk. Tesekkur ederim dostlar.

[@dulynoted2427]

"When the very few make profits, it's their profits. When they have losses, society has to give them money." 👈🏼☝🏼THAT. That, is it in a nutshell. And it has to change.

[@reggiebald2830]

Yanis speaks from a lot of learning and knowledge; truth bombs!

[@kelvinhbo]

Yanis looks more like a professional UFC fighter than an economist.

[@thesilencer4638]

In the featherweight division

[@michaeljoseph3528]

I SWEAR THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT! THANK GOD HE FIGHTS FOR HUMAN SURVIVAL. MAY GOD BLESS HIM.

[@adrianfundescu5407]

@@thesilencer4638Brain puts him in ultra heavy.Anyway, he is who he is.

[@KleineJoop]

Healthy body healthy mind

[@tormunnvii3317]

Best Contemporary Leftist

[@phildemetriou440]

He's a closet capitalist. Millionaire, who charges a fortune to tell the rest of us capitalism doesn't work. Hypocrite.

[@vincesiciliano6363]

Brilliant... we need more people like Yanis. All over the world.

[@lorrainewest7408]

This man imparting his knowledge informs and empowers those who are not exposed and wholely dependent on economy such as me. The ordinary person, the masses he mentions being duped and dependent by events totally out of my hands and theirs..

[@HigoWapsico]

How do we get DiEM 25 chapter in the US?

[@Brusselsniels]

There is a DSC in NYC as far as I know

[@HigoWapsico]

Brusselse thanks, I’ll try to find out more

[@DiEM25official]

@@HigoWapsico Hello! Indeed, we have a local group in New York. You can find our their contact details here at the bottom of the page: internal.diem25.org/en/dscs/view Are you a member of DiEM25? if not you can sign up here: internal.diem25.org/?locale=en and easily contact members in your are and organise a meeting to set up a local group of your own! :)

[@michaeljoseph3528]

PROF. VAROUFAKIS PROVES THAT TO BE DEEMED A GENIUS, AS HE CERTAINLY IS, REQUIRES BUT A SINGLE TRAIT. HONESTY.

[@ginatorres4434]

Eres el mejor analista que tenemos.. thank you!

[@chazzcannon3614]

This is the genius who was once Greece's finance minister...

[@MrAnperm]

He became that after the crisis

[@johannesbekker1970]

"We need economic ties with all but allegiance with none" (Thomas Jefferson) Why were there widely different nations right from the start ? To keep the spirit of competition alive ?

[@nightoftheworld]

1:52:50 “How do we do it? Not by means of nation state based parties, they are finished. They are inward looking, they have a tendency toward nationalism, they play the game of one working class against another working class” [...] 1:55:06 “Transnationalism genuine internationalism in other words, in action, which while respecting totally the primacy of class (because this is what we are trying to do: to create class solidarity in action, not only in spirit) while preserving that accommodates national pride, national cultures. You know I am Greek I‘m not going to lose my affinity with Greek culture, Greek language, Greek literature because I am transnational and an internationalist. Similarly with our Turkish friends, our British friends and so on-how to combine all this in a movement for change? It’s very early days yet... It’s either this or going back to nation state based political parties that we’ve tried and with which we have failed.”

[@nightoftheworld]

ihategoogle I worry about this as well. But do you have no hope for third ways? Today we have universal crises (climate/refugees/financialization of capital/precarity/poverty/disease..) Is human nature condemned to the narrowness of the past? What about getting collectively better at processing the failures/traumas of the past? I don’t think the world’s ever been this connected historically which means exotic variables at play.

[@EclecticSceptic]

@ihategoogle Those statements are confused. Firstly, you don't need to be a nationalist to have nation states. Secondly, not sure why you are talking about destroying nation states. Thirdly, if by 'be a nationalist and a transnationalist at the same time' you mean you can't take a serious interest in the nation where you live and also take a serious interest in other nations, then this is like saying you can't be an individual and be part of a family. Fourthly, nation states have only existed for the past few hundred years, and how workable they are is highly debatable. For interest, it is impossible to address climate change without strong transnational co-operation.

[@danthemansmail]

Good stuff.

[@stonedzebra420]

some extremely high level ideas being talked about here

[@robertstan298]

Yanis, please come to Romania!

[@jochannan7379]

Yanis is a truly brilliant mind, but he might indeed be more of an academic that a politician. His plan for a European Green New deal is awesome, but I don't see the strategy yet how to get there in the short time that we have to avert catastrophic climate change. It is great that Mera25 made it into the Greek parliament, but during the last European elections, outside Greece DIEM25 remained totally marginal. I live near Berlin where there is the strongest DIEM25 chapter in Germany, and I attended one campaign event (with Yanis, incidentally), but then, until election day, I never saw any posters, no canvassing, no presence of DIEM25 in the streets of the capital, where their chances would have been best. I am afraid, that the Greek success may remain an exception, due to exceptional circumstances. Maybe also because there is no one else in the movement who is even close to Yanis in terms of communication and analytic skills. Despite its goals, DIEM25 still feels a bit like a one man show. I hope this changes.

[@TheControlBlue]

The Climate Catastrophe is a lie to whip you into a Revolutionary frenzy. Ask yourself how Carbon a gaz that has always existed in the atmosphere and climate system and had way higher concentrations in previous eras before the Industrial Revolution is only now considered a destabilizing agent. Simple, it's because it's emitted by cars. It is the perfect angle to attack a modern, motorized civilization.

[@jochannan7379]

@@TheControlBlue Not only ask but actually look for the answer. Do you seriously suggest that no scientist ever thought of this? The answer is very simple: Because the sun was much weaker in the past. The sun's luminosity increases over its lifetime. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_luminosity Therefore it was only due to the high CO2 concentration that the earth could turn in to a hothouse in the late Ordovician 440 million years ago, even though the sun was 4% weaker than today.

[@EclecticSceptic]

Excellent discussion.

[@georginabravo4508]

Thank you for this clear explanations of poverty.

[@mariettestabel275]

Greeks-the Light of the World. Y.V. very strong Mind. 💫

[@f4614n]

A suggestion to the answer given to the question at 1:16:06 - Instead of non-voting shares the voting rights could be transferred (in equal parts or by workhours) to the employees of the given company.

[@MegaPapa8888]

Very interesting. Save it.

[@diogotxx]

Summary 5:30 current state of liberalism; every regime has it legitimizing myth 8:30 in capitalism regime, the myth is that selfish makes it work better, and market is the tool 10:10 market no more as a tool or instrument, but as an objective in the 1970's; market became a god, not a path to it 13:00 neoliberalism is for today's world what Marx was to Solviet Union, i.e., nothing 15:00 mega companies, mega banks and 1929; capitalism saved by capitalists 17:00 EUA as the machine that kept everything on march 17:50 age of neoliberalism after 1971 and end of Bretton Woods 19:00 world as the financer of EUA public debt 19:40 financialization and market as an object 20:30 neoliberalism died after 2008; neoliberalism means austeriry for the many, and socialism for the bankers 21:30 Trump won because, for the first time, more than half of american families could nor afford the cheapest car of the market 22:20 eighteen trillion dollars with negative interest rates; banks take this money and, e.g., (re)buy their shares 25:30 wages stagnation since the end of Bretton Woods; the only way for keep comsuption was financialization 27:15 Obama, representing the hope ofthe opressed, chooses Tim Geithner and Larry Summers, Wall Street paladins, for roles in public treasure 30:30 the colapse of capitalism in 1929 did not make socialism emerge, but fascism; the colapse of capitalism does not means something best will arise e.g. the xenofobia and alt right 32:00 the job is stabilize capitalism, not destroy it, and build something new from it 35:25 the twin paradox: today, the biggest ammount of money saved in history of humanity is not being invested on what humanity needs 38:00 costs of society, collective stupidity and new green deal 39:30 what will post-capitalism looks like? 40:15 corporations will die not in the hand of the leftist, but by it's own technology

[@MrLouladakis]

Despite difficulties he will become prime minister!.

[@yongy2000]

How is this Not getting more VIEWS??!!! But a cat video gets millions of views. :(

[@buickadelaide1283]

Yanis ...is an intellectual giant!!!

[@mariettestabel275]

Absolutely 💯 💫

[@imavileone7360]

Starts at 5:33

[@inaciotasse6706]

The problem is the world relies on philosophers/politicians/bankers doing economics. The world needs engineers/scientists to do economics.

[@totaltotalmonkey]

I would say both are required for economics

[@inaciotasse6706]

@skutch Blobaum Good point. I don't know what I was trying to say. Everyone is just stuck in this money and debt paradigm and behaving like madmen. A gift giving/patronage paradigm might be better. Value is subjective that's how arbitrage works. I mean how can a painting be worth millions of dollars? To most people it's completely worthless.

[@babyl-on9761]

Yanis, your analysis is great, your conclusion that the utter and contemptible failure of Western liberal democracy can be fixed with more democracy I fear is quite mistaken. It is not just the EU or the US, Western civilization is being undermined by its own internal flaws and simply will not survive unless serious reforms are made, CHANGE does not include more of the same, more failed democracy.

[@KilgoreTroutAsf]

I am all in favor of DIEM25, but I wonder how come it couldnt gather support from Nordic Left parties and the like. If you want it to be a movement it should build bridges with fellow travelers.

[@billjohnson2081]

The Greek Oracle

[@thomasjamison2050]

When I started to listen to this, I never in my wildest imagination expected to hear Yanis endorse trickle-down economics.

[@Maynard0504]

his answer around 30:00 is one my favorites of his. I have many hard left leaning friends who seem to think too lightly of the idea of "replacing capitalism". It would be an administrative, organizational, and most importantly a humane nightmare if capitalism were to completely collapse in our lifetime. And all this would be a gamble since we don't know what kinds of systems will aggregate from the pieces that are left after the collapse.

[@lullala9589]

communism without communists? NO, this is called feudal corporatism or NEW FEUDALISM

[@mondon656]

Love your thoughts Yanis, but I don't agree that Jeremy Corbyn campaigned against Brexit at all. He was very absent as an opposer of it.

[@heathcliffearnshaw1403]

1:10:33 “Brexit means Brexit” = Brexit means breaks it = Brexit means break them = Brexit means we break us

[@AudioPervert1]

'Societies of Control' by Gilles Deleuze (1925-1995) - 'Societies of Control' explains in great detail the structure (imagine a farm with some sheep) - the space inside which we we live, think and create. Basically how and why we may think and behave as 'particular' pre-determined models. The forces and barriers, mostly invisible (and indivisible) which maintain inequality, bias and control = Overall Hegemony. Over who? You, me, that guy across the road, the woman on T.V reading the (bad) news, the politician harping on bad ideas, the rocker gyrating on stage, the diva on a world tour, the celebrities on the billboards, models on the cover of magazines, the girls eating bananas on instagram, the seething masses clicking away inside facebook, the refugees floating in the middle of the sea, the online trolls, the anonymous, the cops, the gangs, the outsiders and the insiders ... pretty much everyone. DiEM included. Thanks for reading.

[@AudioPervert1]

@Tānzill Q essay and follow up essays too ... Ciao

[@hehwhwh727]

Word salad

[@AudioPervert1]

@@hehwhwh727 Like so many S's.

[@hehwhwh727]

@@AudioPervert1 abandon postmodern hocus pocus if you actually want to change anything

[@AudioPervert1]

@@hehwhwh727 You can abandon what you want. Yet facts remain as is. Now that old dutch story and painting comes to mind, The Ship Of Fools. Get it ? No ... Then, by all means Get Lost...

[@berkehan4808]

Yanis in my home country? Why didn't i heard of this damn

[@artistdogboy]

great stuff

[@MostafaAhmed2024]

38:10 let's not be stupid!

[@fabiopilnik827]

Electromagnetic motors predate the (internal) combustion engine so engineers can't possibly be this stupid, it is a case of there aren't enough minerals in the World for the batteries (not if you want to have 8 billion people with comparable living standards on batteries.). Lets not be ignorant.

[@cutebelly1337]

I agree with Yanis. Those in power who cheered at the humiliation of their enemies, is no better than their 'enemies'. I was shocked to watch the 'humiliation of Saddam' splashed all over the newspapers and to think that Iraq was destroyed based on fake news. And as Yanis said, not that I have anything to do with Iraq from humanity standpoint. Someone who calls someone animal but acts like an animal is no better than the called animal.

[@Bluuplanet]

Yanis says there is lots of money. It's just not going into the right places. Yanis thinks money has something like a static value. As a Greek, he should have learned something when Greece went bankrupt.. But money has NO INTRINSIC VALUE. It's intrinsic value is the value of the paper it is printed on. When it is not being spent or distributed, that is because those holding it understand that doing so will only reveal its lack of value. Withholding money makes it temporarily non-existent. It only has value to the economy when it is circulating in the market. When wood exists in fine furniture in a furniture store, it has value, but not when it is a log laying in the forest.

[@klausgartenstiel4586]

negative interest rates are the only thing that makes sense. money ought to have an expiry date. and if you create more of it than there is value in the system, it ought to decompose even faster.

[@allenbeever7934]

I love Yannis and I am a member of DIEM25, but can't agree with his analysis of Labour's election defeat here in the UK. Mistakes were made and they must be faced so the left can rebuild and win power.

[@Mutineer9]

Actually, Yanis, Just prohibiting the sale of shares could stabilize Capital.

[@yurona5155]

Why would that be a problem when only people currently working at a company/co-op were allowed to own any shares? Or did you miss the first part of Yanis' answer?

[@Mutineer9]

@@yurona5155 Please, read my statement again. You comment has nothing relative to my statement.

[@yurona5155]

@@Mutineer9 It does, but in case I need to clarify: Any notion of "stabilizing capital" is meaningless in the context of what he describes.

[@Mutineer9]

@@yurona5155Not meaningless. Yanis promoted green new deal and European investment fund to stabilise capital. As a dream, he propose workers cooperative like system, with common ownership of means of production by giving workers and/or other social stakeholders vote on big companies/corporations. He has idealistic believe that Capital will agree on his first propose. My point is, that many of current problem with Capital strike can be solved by simple prohibit of sale/transfer shares in any form. One's you own them, you own them for life and they disappear when you die. That is first step to him Utopia and It is my believe it is as realistic as his first propose, in term of Capital agree on it.

[@diarmuidconsidine2225]

is it true that on the banks of the river rhein there are 500 castles who can afford full orchestas to play and stay. all germams

[@AtlantaBill]

If the working class follows Yanis Varoufakis, it's doomed to suffer capitalist dictatorship forever. But he says enough that's right that he should be listened to.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

People mention "Gender Studies," a very rare major (Business is the most common major by far), as the example of a pernicious course of study. Maybe. But did you know? "Financial Engineering" is a major now. I wonder what those people are studying. /s

[@niederungenwiederungen]

In my opinion its a gross overstatement to compare greece with a concentration camp, Mr. Varoufakis

[@joanofarc33]

When Yanis says the iphone was produced by the state he fails to say it was made by the military. Those technologies (wifi, bluetooth, siri etc.) were all produced by the military for some military purpose (yes even the internet) and then they free the technology to industry so that someone like Jobs comes along and repurposes the technology.

[@akhalif68]

The researchers (the humans) who work on researching technologies are paid by tax payers NOT private businesses or oligarchs like "George Soros"...Agree?

[@yurona5155]

That's only true of the internet (DARPAnet) and GPS (and satellite technology more broadly) though. Wifi (ALOHAnet, WaveLAN, CSIRO), Bluetooth and Siri are pretty much exclusively civilian in their origins.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

all taxpayer funded and privatized.

[@hzelg5684]

state / military 🍅/🍅

[@jakobsmith4046]

Yanis is great lets hope he gets elected and doesn't make the same mistakes as Syriza

[@valueengines2184]

The top 500 firms only account for 37% of world economy

[@valueengines2184]

My father owned a small ad agency for most of his adult life, I have just started a small business. There are 4.5 million SMEs in the UK.

[@green2stayecoswdmarketingn339]

Does there always have to a conspiracy theorist in the audience who introduces unrelated material?

[@End-Result]

Which question are you referring to?

[@totaltotalmonkey]

​@@End-Result Gaddafi? thefreethoughtproject.com/declassified-emails-reveal-natos-true-motive-topple-gaddafi-stop-creation-gold-backed-african-currency/

[@hrvojemikulcic7074]

Why not only Germany in eurozone with euro money and others country not into a eurozone?

[@AW-iw6kt]

6:48 is Ghent really that horrible, Yanis?

[@dan_ugcfactory]

7:01 - every regime has its myth. It's legitimizing story. Soviet Union had Marx. Capitalism had Adam Smith. The Spanish Inquisition had Christ. ISIS has the prophet Muhammed. The current Western regimes have neoliberist philosophy 7:43 - the theory which is utilized by a regime in order to legitimize what it does usually is utterly disconnected from what the regime actually does 8:22 - the capitalist story? Nobody likes capitalists but if you have the market and the market is competitive " the butcher the baker and the brewer ", and each one looks after themselves, they will deliver the best goods to the public 9:12 - the public interest is best served when nobody is trying to serve it. (Those that claim to work for the public never do -- they're all liars) Since the 1970s, the market hasn't served as a useful instrument. It became the objective. Hammer / carpenter example. You must know what you're using it for. Margaret Thatcher quote "there's no such thing as society...there's just individuals" 13:36 - the notion of competitive capitalism that Adam Smith was referring to died around 1870 1880 with The birth of telephony and later with electricity (aka monopolies)...first general electric and standard oil....now Amazon, Facebook, google. This was the birth of both mega companies and in turn, megabanks 16:40 - bretton woods conference. They realized that in order to save capitalism from itself you have to restrict it and constrain it. These were not anti-capitalists, they were smart capitalists.

[@musahmohammed6128]

yanis varoufakis kindly come to South Africa through economic freedom fighters, we will organise your visit

[@borutjurciczlobec9302]

The church would burn Christ on the bush

[@alphonsineaguillon7]

Borut Jurcic Zlobec I FULLY AGREE!

[@tamaracruz8065]

Please subtitles in English!!!

[@abrambadal8997]

Yanis , why not call it, this new phase ofcapitalist-imperialism as ''Fictitious Kapital Domination of Imperialism'' , instead of real capital dominated Leninist Imperialism , as I suggested in 2002 ??? Noam Chomsky is correctly saying it is neither NEW , neither LIBERALISM , but imperialism !!!

[@juligrlee556]

Should there be a difference between someone with a PhD and someone who has many stages of lesser amounts of education? How can this dilemma be solved between those who contribute more or are smarter... from those who do not have that talent or desire to succeed? From each according to his need or from each according to his contribution? What are the minimums? What ar the maximums allowed for those who have more money, talent, desire, parental gifting, privilege based on race, skin color, religious background of the dominate culture etc.?

[@theskankingpigeon965]

1. No 2. There is no dilemma because answer to previous Q was 'No'. 3. To each according to his need, obv. To have it the other way, about contribution, you would need to define 'contribution' in a way that isn't gross and Darwinian. It's such a big concept with so many subtleties that it seems silly to try and measure contribution. Also, see answer to 1. 4. + 5. It sounds like you want to maintain the oppressive power structures and class dynamics that Yanis spent to entire video arguing against. We're all born not of our own free will - we don't choose how, when, where or to whom. We don't all have the same access to opportunities or choices. These things are totally out of our control, and so should not be a basis for reward or punishment. Let's just make sure everyone's needs are met and no one is dying because they're hungry or have to live on the streets, then offer everyone access to the same education, and then we can all decide together what step to take next.

[@juligrlee556]

@@theskankingpigeon965 Your point is well taken. But you fail to define the meaning of need. I need a million to feel good about myself. Others need a roof over their head. If you haven't studied Mazlow's heirarchy or other hierarchies of needs, it should be at the root of our discussion. I love Yanis. I am thankful for his exposition. I am a socialist and a democrat as well as a fan of worker ownership of all corporations. But, we also have to determine who pay should be made. If we have computers and AI doing all of our work, shall we first meet the needs of our computers or of those who are starving? No matter where we land on these issues we have to think about how we rank, who we rank, criteria for rank, the potential of eliminating rank, and so much more.

[@End-Result]

A fascinating discussion as ever, although it was odd that A} there was no discussion of the elephant in the room, Turkish politics and B} that Yanis seemed uninterested in the question about the toppling of Qaddafi and his intention to create an African Monetary Union.

[@kevinguyclifton]

Just started watching, was hoping to see both of these things discussed. That's a shame it was not. Thanks for the heads up.

[@saayagain65]

Sorry but around 30:00 Yanis talks about how instability in capitalism is a bad thing which is a poor way to assess it. In those situations, people become more open to other ideas. They lose faith in the maintstream ideology. In those moments, real change can happen. It's unfortunate that other parties who we dislike and ideas we dislike can grasp the opportunity too but that's the risk associated with radical change. what motivation is there for people to go towards a new path if the current system provides them with what they need? This is illogical and part of the reason why Yanis will not be able to actually make a change. He talk a good game but his desire to be a 'humanist' as he describes prevents him from pursuing the radical change he continuously mentions. Yanis, you're a great thinker and economist but your inability to square the circle, to follow through with what you want to happen, will mean that you will forever be consigned to the sidelines of politcal and economic history. Your time to rise above and become a revolutionary leader was during the Syriza uprising. You should have overthrown Tsipras and taken Greece in the correct direction but because you didn't want to cause any more pain and suffering (in the short term), you let him crush Greece. You moved onto DiEM25 to try and make a change in the EU which is idealistic and unrealistic. You may introduce your well thoughtout arguments but none the less, this movement will be shrugged off and the EU will continue doing what it is doing. Accept your destiny, Yanis. You have the vision but you need to adopt the appropriate mentality to carry them out. This is the biggest problem of the left. Too concerned with not hurting people. Pursue your vision to the end without equivocation and hesitation.

[@florentin4061]

So he had to hurt people in order to succeed?

[@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493]

Let's be patient and learn from the mistakes of the Soviet disaster and let capitalism make the mistakes before we have concrete scientific ideas.

[@83Shivan]

These are clrear words %clrear words

[@vincentcausey4273]

Interesting discussion. The universal dividend scheme, where he gave an example of Google gives 10% of its shares to Turkey doesn't add up. If Google, or any company gave 10% (or even 1%) of their shares to every country they operated in, they would have to give up more than 100% of their shares. Even the rationale for doing so is a bit fishy. The example for Google (always Google, I wonder why), is that everyone has contributed to the capital base of Google by using smart phones with Google apps. But what reasoning can be applied to other companies? How are the capital bases of car companies or supermarkets added to by the general public in order to justify taking some of their shares? It all seems a bit ad hoc to me.

[@thefourofapocalypse7955]

Take Amazon, for example: It can work as It does, because we built roads and infrastructure with our Money. The internet that makes It so powerful was built via research investment from the government. Before that, the computer was created the same way. So, what allows Amazon greatness are things that were invented and built by us as a society.

[@MarsyYO]

When is He talking aboutb Obama?

[@lorrainewest7408]

he has near beginning here. He obliged the call of Wall Street 2008.

[@Camcolito]

Yanis is great but I'm not as convinced as he is that capitalism will produce technologies that will dismantle itself.

[@Bluuplanet]

"The notion of competitive capitalism died around 1870-1880" -- Yanis Varoufakis I suppose he thinks space exploration is the culmination of the end of competitive capitalism. Enter Elon Musk. Musk competes with government and wins.

[@robstewart4702]

Really respect Yanis, but the notion of replacing capitalism AFTER stabilising it is unrealistic.

[@tadagunter8537]

It may seem unrealistic to some, but what is the alternative? And many things that have seemed unrealistic have happened.

[@TNToncourt]

Property rights? Great Reset???

[@johannesbekker1970]

The next step after capitalism is money based on agricultural grains meaning it has a use-by-date, a shelf life like all other real commodities. In other words money that wears out and then gets renewed by those working on nature's products.

[@johannesbekker1970]

@Ben Dover But you agree that seeds do degrade over time (unlike gold) which will have the effect of stimulating economic activity knowing that ; use it or lose it. If you plant a new crop it'd be better to use fresh seed for better germination obviously. Check Revelations 6:6 for grain based money. The time aspect is one year for all crops but obviously some crops are harder to cultivate than others. It's correct to evaluate commodities to time spent on production meaning the living costs of the worker during the time it took him/her to complete a commodity from start to finish. What else can one evaluate it to ? Bringing automation into manufacturing has a cheapening effect on commodities ; eschewing reality and making labor obsolete causing unemployment ; a redoubtable practice. As for man-hours if I understand you correctly, you support wages/flat rate = seeing labor as goods like other commodities ? This is one of the major reasons for social unrest because people are not commodities ; but the things they produce ARE, which makes labor a legal issue not an economical one. Only the products of labor are to be treated as an economical issue but not labor as such. All man made things deteriorate in time, but obviously some things have a longer shelf life than others depending on the materials & methods used etc. which again refers back to the time spent on manufacturing even the building materials ; everything depends on this principal.

[@anti-emo4721]

Embracing eco- fascism! Finally!

[@johannesbekker1970]

@@anti-emo4721 lol

[@johannesbekker1970]

@@anti-emo4721 Well then you consider the Bible as fascist or you don't understand the meaning of the word

[@suziegreer7975]

We may feel we have a strong feeling to fight but the only answer I can give to that is an army full of soldiers against an army full of pens and paper the pens and paper will carry on writing a life time but the soldiers will be limited some solders will fall some solders will be hurt the rest will be painted for the rest of their lives getting used to the people who they are fighting feeling upset toward their government's but there is never winners in war we ALLWAYS feel the pain . The people's we are fighting against are ALLWAYS like minded by this I mean they still are people we are all humans together we all breath the same air although in some parts it may be tainted with gunfire or smoke my mum ALLWAYS taught me don't mix work with smoke. Fighting never gets you anywhere. If you need to fight then fight a philosophical fight study Buddhism or Hinduism because believe me religions like these have something to be gained. Sorry I don't want to talk I'll but Margaret Thatcher believed in giving monies vast monies to the rich taking away jobs from the poor taking money from the poor and not allowing the disabled to feel able to work. Now in the conservative government they have organised a way that keeping all the questions we no way want to answer would keep the benefits from us well now I feel totally burnt out so this is my disagreement to you I know what all the or what seemed like all the conservative party was saying but people like myself should be working for ourselves but instead I've burnt out I'm in a world that doesn't seem to offer me anything for the torture us autistic people feel. I like or should I say would like to think I'm earning money because it's well earned but I'm like the buildings that have broken down or should I say have been closed.

[@suziegreer7975]

Margaret was a conservative that's what she called herself at the time

[@lisica8745]

liberal conservative

[@paca8188]

The world economic forum has a plan for the world to 'save' us. Is that the same plan Varoufakis is talking about I wonder.

[@smallscreentv1204]

33% huh?

[@evdaribarovski5698]

Extremely interesting lecture. But I want to say I hope the EU collapses. I have not seen any improvement in the standard of living, which includes employment, good wages affordable properties to buy, etc. etc. While I was being driven to the Airport when I was in Thessaloniki(my favourite greek city) I asked the Taxi Driver "how do you like the euro" His reply was simple he said "bring back the dracma". I want the same, let europe go back to the way things were, every country to return to their original currency. Nor do I believe in the European arrogant parliamentarians. I know what I am talking about. I believe in socialism, equality so that our children have the best future they deserve, not to destroy their hopes. There is not much I disagree with Yannis agenda, its a great agenda, an agenda of hope and reality. He is an absolute genius. He explains things in a way that even though I am not an elite universitry student I can absolutely comprehend.

[@thebishop1301]

as of 17 Jan this has 35,000 views..... that's not much really. Save your breath Yanis. love yer.

[@laurencevanhelsuwe3052]

I have tremendous respect for Varoufakis but.. he clearly does not even begin to grasp the nature (not even the urgency, but the nature) of what we're going through as far as climate change is concerned. There will be no post-capitalism the way Varoufakis imagines it, because there will not be the kind of civilisation we modern humans can imagine following the collapse of the biosphere we're living through. The world's population is going to crash as a result of biological/chemical/physical processes that barely fit any economical/political models, however progressive they may be. The world's agricultural productivity is going to collapse, and this will trigger chaos, mass migrations, mass hunger, mass disease outbreaks, revolutions, civil wars, conventional wars.. Whether we're on the loony right or the loony left of the political spectrum, we all need food to survive, and to support stable societies. Our food security will crumble as a result of climate change, and whomever buys the pathetic "green" new deals being sold and marketed by the hopium peddlers should first grab a calculator and do the math on all the proposed solutions. They simply cannot work, and they are mostly capitalist money-making ideas camouflaged by an overdose of greenwashing and political smoke and mirrors.

[@anti-emo4721]

lol have you squeezed your head somewhere!? "Overpopulation" In where tho!? In Europe if not for the immigrants' population is rapidly decreasing! Most people are moving to the big cities while outside of them are plenty of green spaces! Look how many ghost towns there are!

[@jeebusk]

I do not like the mis-use of the term capitalism, it's just the value of time so post capitalism would be post-human.

[@EclecticSceptic]

' They simply cannot work, and they are mostly capitalist money-making ideas camouflaged by an overdose of greenwashing and political smoke and mirrors.' Do you have any kind of practical solution to put forward? Pointing out the problem is not enough. A social climate of panic does not encourage people to take action and consider reasonable progressive politics. It encourages people to withdraw into themselves, become fearful and suspicious, and be more open to reactionary politics. This is most likely why Varoufakis doesn't lead with a doomsday tale on climate change. If your solution is to have system change within the next few years, that is impossible. Ideologically, people do not want it. That also means it is impossible because for a functioning democratic socialist society, people need to willingly participate and reproduce it. Most people have accepted neoliberal sensibilities as common sense. That is our starting point. A Green New Deal is something which can be achieved now, which will make a significant difference, and which will open the way materially and ideologically for more radical proposals. Also do you have any evidence that DiEM25's Green New Deal proposal is 'capitalist money-making', 'greenwashing', or 'political smoke and mirrors'? Maybe you are referring to something else?

[@rwess]

Choosing the correct politics is important, but taking the banksters out of the game is equally as important. How? Bitcoin. Don't worry about the bankers - they can still print their fiat currencies. But you will, for the first time, have control of your own money.

[@poockoo]

Bitcoin is a corporate fiat.

[@rwess]

@@poockoo No, that would be XRP, or Libra, or any number of centralized blockchain tokens. Bitcoin is decentralized anti-bankster "crypto-gold". Gold for the digital age. Study it. Soon the banksters and the nation-states will "emit" their own centralised "blockchain tokens". Don't fall for those. That's just captured fiat - worse than the present stuff.

[@Mutineer9]

But not Russia Yanis? You are not going to Russia.

[@joanofarc33]

Mutineer9 LOL! Yes “if they feel European.” That’s all it takes! All of Africa should apply because they all feel ‘European’. Its like gender swapping, if you feel like that then you are that.

[@Mutineer9]

@@joanofarc33 My point is, Russia for all it existence wanted to be part of Europe. Even now It is Putin Dream.

[@akhalif68]

Rest assured the dream of "Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok" is well & truelly dead - mainly because of the mishandling of the relationship with Russia by so called elites in Washington & London - These idiots imposed harsh sanctions of Russia after the annexation of Crimea & Russian support for "Russian Speaking Ukrainians" in the Donbass. This gave Putin & his associates good reason to form closer relations with China & Iran. The sanctions only impacted on "working class" Russians who couldnt by food products & important medication from Europe...

[@kapoioskanenas2337]

@@akhalif68 Thats how capitalism works. deal with it

[@anti-emo4721]

​@@akhalif68 I like how Russians are always the victims! Why should the world bend over your Russian rules!? You need us, we don't need you! You have the same president for 20 years now, no functioning Democracy!

[@imavileone7360]

1:23:53 Jesus Christ... There's always one...

[@chrisgrigor4919]

..went to Turkey to talk about Democracy.. Lol🤣🤣🤣

[@ianwatson194]

Vanis gave in when he was a Greek MP. His idea of working with in Capitalism will fail. Corporations will fight tooth and nail to survive. They have the money and the power and they will use that to stay in a position of power

[@vasilykatuma5689]

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