Dies To Removal Episode 24 - The Rising Cost Of Magic: The Gathering

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Tolarian Community College

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The Professor and Vince discuss the rising cost of Magic: The Gathering. Is this game getting more expensive? Why can't Wizards of the Coast just reprint the most needed cards and do we have any hope that they will one day do so? Why is Modern actually cheaper than Standard, and just how much does this game really cost?
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@DeeJaysWord
@DeeJaysWord 4 жыл бұрын
One of my friends was telling me how fishing was expensive because poles were 200$ and I’m like “yea hahah that’s so overpriced” 😬
@peterbruno657
@peterbruno657 4 жыл бұрын
Your fishing pole is banned in lake but it still legal in ocean.
@silentk59
@silentk59 4 жыл бұрын
And you need 60 poles right? Because if not he can go fuck himself. lol
@Backstabmacro
@Backstabmacro 4 жыл бұрын
Friend: Fishing is so expensive Me: *Hold my expensive curling cardboard.*
@edtesorero115
@edtesorero115 4 жыл бұрын
Fishing is not a sociable hobby. Omg can u invite 26 people to go fishing : ) can u resell ur fish gears back to it’s market price?
@deckertech-aaron
@deckertech-aaron 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterbruno657 i needed that laugh today. Head on the nail for sure.
@TherapyForNarhwals
@TherapyForNarhwals 4 жыл бұрын
“You need them to play the game and they’re a hundred dollars.” Prof is getting personal with this skit 😂
@TheFirstTriplefife
@TheFirstTriplefife 4 жыл бұрын
I only have a couple of them and they're the cheep ones.
@TheFirstTriplefife
@TheFirstTriplefife 4 жыл бұрын
@Norman Bergmaier ahhhhhh sheeeeit.
@zachariahwright9732
@zachariahwright9732 4 жыл бұрын
When this video was made, not a single fetchland was above $75. Not saying they shouldn't be reprinted, but prices have been going down. Specifically, Khans fetches are decently affordable now.
@TheFirstTriplefife
@TheFirstTriplefife 4 жыл бұрын
@@zachariahwright9732 I get that but they still have a pretty valid argument about basically everything in this video. It's really sad that they aren't listen to. But, hey what you going to do.
@Jahsart23
@Jahsart23 4 жыл бұрын
@@zachariahwright9732 "decently affordable" 75$ for a single card !
@bluj1143
@bluj1143 4 жыл бұрын
Wizards: "We can't acknowledge the secondary market!" Also Wizards: Sells 5 pieces of cardboard direct to consumer at maximum scarcity to justify a mildly discounted set of enemy fetchlands to line their pockets, promising an actual reprint which will likely come in highly premium priced Legends draft boosters later in the year.
@redstonepro5412
@redstonepro5412 4 жыл бұрын
They mean that they dont talk about the secondary market If they would tell you "you can open a 40$ card", they would fall under the gambling laws
@belisariuscawl3786
@belisariuscawl3786 4 жыл бұрын
They said more stylized fetches I thought, no specifics on which fetches so i assumed he meant secret lair:allied fetches was later this year and that's it.
@DanknDerpyGamer
@DanknDerpyGamer 4 жыл бұрын
@@redstonepro5412 ? I mean, I hear this a lot, but hardly ever with ANY sources.
@redstonepro5412
@redstonepro5412 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanknDerpyGamer i hear this a lot too, and it just makes much more sense I never heard wizzards saying We treat secondary market like it would not exist They just said that they can not talk about secondary market
@WayoftheFerret
@WayoftheFerret 3 жыл бұрын
Future Ferret here, no fetch lands in Commander Legends. Sorry mate.
@ruaridhusher4373
@ruaridhusher4373 4 жыл бұрын
"That's going to decrease the cost of playing magic while also increasing sales. Yes. YES. *YES.* " I am in fits
@williamgreen6814
@williamgreen6814 4 жыл бұрын
Y E S !
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@RaunienTheFirst
@RaunienTheFirst 4 жыл бұрын
*YES*
@Joescotterpuss
@Joescotterpuss 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@haftiabi1966
@haftiabi1966 4 жыл бұрын
YES!
@johnphipps4960
@johnphipps4960 4 жыл бұрын
"the video is not out of date" WotC uses you to announce that fetchlands are coming to a limited volume product and the problem of the cost of fetch lands is still not addressed.
@Khronogi
@Khronogi 4 жыл бұрын
I know these things get set up way before hand but it totally looks like wizards totally shit on the prof by doing that lol.
@Insane_Kane
@Insane_Kane 4 жыл бұрын
@@Khronogi the points stand, the reprint is laughable
@DoomGuyDestructotron
@DoomGuyDestructotron 4 жыл бұрын
Best intro yet!
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@JankTank
@JankTank 4 жыл бұрын
I felt like they ripped an ironic stream of consciousness regarding from my brain and made a beautiful skit out of it
@trollman0168
@trollman0168 3 жыл бұрын
Ya it was really good
@bentimmer295
@bentimmer295 3 жыл бұрын
Literally tho
@mudrahel.philosophovich
@mudrahel.philosophovich 4 жыл бұрын
"Three decks vs 1 fetchland" - Pleasant Kenobi is a prophet: Secret Liar 1/2 Fetchlands vs 4 commander precons....
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 4 жыл бұрын
they are not zendikar fetchlands.
@GamerdevilPro
@GamerdevilPro 4 жыл бұрын
@@finalfrontier001 They actually are the fetchlands that appeared in the original Zendikar.
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamerdevilPro congratulations hope you enjoy your $200 cash grab limited addition that re not even foiled.
@GamerdevilPro
@GamerdevilPro 4 жыл бұрын
@@finalfrontier001 Oh I think the secret lair drop should have costed 50$/€ and overall I hate this whole secret lair thing in general because how poorly managed it is (if you are not in the US you are fucked). Also not reprinting them in Zendikar despite seemingly good synergy without breaking them in standard is a mistake and a bad decision. Them not being foil is a plus for many players tho as they'll never have any issues at any event because of curled cards or anything like that. I just think you missed the point of OP that this secret lair is as expensive as commander anthology so it isn't even actually 1v3 fetchland vs deck as Vince joked but 1v4 which is even worse :D
@pnyhmsmx
@pnyhmsmx 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamerdevilPro can't blame wizards for standard, power level wise. Zen lands broke Zendikar and worldwake draft due to wizards underestimating landfall and red black cards. While Khan standard had onslaught lands fetching bfz dual lands in an environment with no wasteland or blood moon (delve spells didnt help). The real problem is that wizards is too attached to secondary prices while knowing they won't print these for standard and screwing over anyone not interested in Standard
@lolimmune
@lolimmune 4 жыл бұрын
5 fetch lands cost more than a booster box, cuz it has a fancy case apparently
@bayouboyentertainment2106
@bayouboyentertainment2106 4 жыл бұрын
You'd think putting them in a fancy case and making it a secret lair would have spelled out playset of lands noooooope.
@anxez
@anxez 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna buy those fancy boxes for pennies on the dollar and make a killing! /s
@kevinsaltz7849
@kevinsaltz7849 3 жыл бұрын
Well a booster box isn't a promise to make that much money back either
@markt43
@markt43 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, the intro was very cathartic.
@elliottreadings8029
@elliottreadings8029 4 жыл бұрын
The shouting of "Yes!" Gave me Toast of London vibes.
@PleasantKenobi
@PleasantKenobi 4 жыл бұрын
@benmeaige4306
@benmeaige4306 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows toast is French.
@chummer2060
@chummer2060 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hear you Clem Fandango
@Aguila1138
@Aguila1138 4 жыл бұрын
I love how much they argue with each other about something they both agree on.
@FoxyNews89
@FoxyNews89 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Yu-Gi-Oh! Player and the same is happening here too, Meta Relevant cards are all printed in the highest rarety and Short printed to oblivion, and we end up paying 100$+/ per card that we need a playset of, now competitive yugioh "Standard" Decks are 600$ minimum if you want to see any kind of tournament success
@ThirdRateDuelist
@ThirdRateDuelist 4 жыл бұрын
Konami atleast does a better job of printing stuff. For example, Ash Blossom.
@RobertoGiovannini
@RobertoGiovannini 4 жыл бұрын
I think the company with the best damage control measures is Bushiroad with Vanguard. They basically did a "Pioneer" (called V-Standard format) scism only a couple years later prices went out of control and then they laid out a complete price control strategy with "modern-alike" (called Premium format) only product with a small pool of new cards once a year and timely functional reprints to sway people away from old and/or overpriced cards. This make Premium more of a V-Standard+ format, with new cards slowly but surely replacing old ones. The real problem Bushi has is its Japanese identity which is rooted deep, which makes Japan the favourite kid, so everything has to be implemented there first and only then transfered to global sets (maybe).
@connorhall4295
@connorhall4295 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on Vince, finally getting his own youtube channel
@Onion176
@Onion176 4 жыл бұрын
Even the prof didn't reprint Oubliette when he was working at WotC.
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 4 жыл бұрын
Mystery Booster boxes already seeing a price increase. I should have stocked up while they were normal price toilet paper Apocalypse style
@bobdole8830
@bobdole8830 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, they'll drop once the reprints are out. Every store will order TONS after the initial wave. It's a great product that will sell for years
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 4 жыл бұрын
How much of this price increase is because of a the high demand and stores not getting enough boxes? Where I lived, I paid my box for 207$ Canadian and there was only 1 store that had plenty of boxes on Saturday. Everywhere else was completely wiped out. If this set is truly unlimited printing and the store clerks told me they were coming pretty confidant about the supply, maybe the prices will calm down after a few weeks. Gotta just add, I’m not an expert, just saying what I experienced this weekend
@dandykang1833
@dandykang1833 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobdole8830 From the LGS's at my area, they're all getting one last shipment and that's it.
@plazstic
@plazstic 4 жыл бұрын
I bought 13 For $80 USD a piece with no tax. My LGS is basically a charity at this point, recipients being me.
@MayorofAvabruck
@MayorofAvabruck 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the mystery booster supply is almost gone already. Distributors say only a small restock wave is coming. It will probably go up to 200 dollars before the year is over.
@douglima8344
@douglima8344 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this video was recorded before the announcement of the Secret Lair Ultimate Platinum Give Money Edition. But even so Vince had the foresight to say that those kinds of reprints wouldn't solve the problem 21:40. When you know a game, you know a game.
@douglima8344
@douglima8344 4 жыл бұрын
The professor just confirmed one minute later lol
@joecooper8527
@joecooper8527 4 жыл бұрын
JUST MAKE THE PRICE OF ENTRY CHEAPER, MORE MONEY FROM THE INCREASE OF PLAYERS.
@seankuhn6633
@seankuhn6633 4 жыл бұрын
Imo this means 10$ or less per shock land. affordable Lands For entrys sake !!
@coolzog
@coolzog 4 жыл бұрын
Devaluing your product is not a great long term strategy.
@xChikyx
@xChikyx 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolzog it's a game, not an investment
@joecooper8527
@joecooper8527 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolzog AS LONG AS YOU KEEP UP THE QUALITY PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO BUY.
@wargh12
@wargh12 4 жыл бұрын
how cheaper though? to make it mainstream it probably should be like $40-50 per deck For any reasonable person (read: not an enfranchised magic player) paying $10-15 for a single piece of cardboard is as much inconceivable as paying $70-80
@captainkarnage9874
@captainkarnage9874 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine it someone out there has spent enough on standard to have bought into vintage
@pierreolivierlepage664
@pierreolivierlepage664 4 жыл бұрын
Honest question: If fetch lands are a "required tool" that's too expensive. Is that an economics flaw or a flaw in the design of the game?
@luispolanco5966
@luispolanco5966 4 жыл бұрын
Game design. Look at some other TCG games. They use better infinitely "energy" systems than MTG does.
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi 4 жыл бұрын
@@luispolanco5966 I wouldn't say better. Easier certainly.
@GM-rs2fv
@GM-rs2fv 4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot of hand sanitizer every time Vince touches his face.
@supranova7594
@supranova7594 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously!! it was bugging me sooo much like OMG Vince, stop, get yourself some help.
@blank9735
@blank9735 4 жыл бұрын
Im sure this was filmed before covid19...
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 4 жыл бұрын
@@blank9735 ? how so this was filmed in February and Covid-19 was late december.
@williamsimkulet7832
@williamsimkulet7832 4 жыл бұрын
46:00 - I actually kind of want to see JumpStart do well. Mind you, it's apparently just "heavily 2020 core set" and not standard legal, so it's already needlessly confusing. I genuinely hope WOTC has given this it's own expansion symbol and wises up and makes them all standard legal.
@jacksonvanhyning8339
@jacksonvanhyning8339 4 жыл бұрын
"I hear there's a problem with lawsuits if we do this" *NO*
@UltimatePokemonFan75
@UltimatePokemonFan75 4 жыл бұрын
The intro sketch cemented my love for the both of you. I've never had so much faith in our Mtg idols.
@TheFirstTriplefife
@TheFirstTriplefife 4 жыл бұрын
There is so much about MTG I wish would change. The price is possibly my top priority. I like owning the cards. To this extent I like to play the cards. Sure enough I even like to have a ever growing collection. Yet, I can't because the price is to high for a lot of the "must have" cards, even in case of me just buying one for one specific commander deck. So until things change I will just be Owwwing and Ahhhing at all the cards I can never own. Let alone play. Remind me again, is this a card game or collectable cards or both? Where is the balance?
@rakghoul6393
@rakghoul6393 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit these skits were amazing. When it comes to other hobbies, I used to play the X-Wing mini game and for the cost of my legacy D&T deck I could buy 35-40 individual ships to play with and build nearly any list I want to instead of just one.
@unraveki
@unraveki 4 жыл бұрын
46:46 there is another difference, the die is see through glitter purple, also technically vince was right when he guessed that the number of boosters were different, so Brian you were wrong two times in a row lol!
@evanmagness7346
@evanmagness7346 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the play mat yesterday! So excited to support my favorite podcast!
@xanaxkamikaze
@xanaxkamikaze 4 жыл бұрын
Holy moly! That intro is just pure gold!
@th5174
@th5174 4 жыл бұрын
haha in the episode they talked about bernie i got a bernie ad
@duncanmorrow255
@duncanmorrow255 4 жыл бұрын
"I aM oNcE aGaIn AsKiNg FoR yOuR fInAnCiAl SuPpOrT"
@desolatevenom8151
@desolatevenom8151 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone in our playgroup has converted to using almost exclusively proxy lands at this point due to the ridiculous price point. We play a lot of edh, and building and playing new decks is a frequent occurrence in our group. But having to buy new lands for every new deck would make that impossible with the current prices. So until those prices become reasonable again; *SPOILER* - they won't! - we will continue to purchase and use proxy lands to continue to enjoy the game at a much fairer price.
@half-assedcraftswithbigmik4301
@half-assedcraftswithbigmik4301 4 жыл бұрын
Literally the BEST skit on this channel. Well done, folks.
@serder910630
@serder910630 4 жыл бұрын
In arena, while playing around 10 hours per week, All I was doing was dropping money on the pre order during dominaria standard and I could get 2 Tier 1 decks (esper control and sultai). The problem were the rare wild cards since the shocks and checks were so important. However, it was doable for around 70 CAD per magic set.
@jongibson4766
@jongibson4766 4 жыл бұрын
"If Flash wasn't OK it wouldn't be legal, Brian." AHAHAHAHAHA I haven't even got to the podcast yet and I'm dead
@thefrozengoat
@thefrozengoat 4 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this video for the intro alone. Dying over here!
@danbarto8876
@danbarto8876 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, hoping that you and pk are doing well. I'm not sure if the virus will be altering your release schedules, but the content is great and I'm hoping we will continue seeing you.
@TheOmegaBear09
@TheOmegaBear09 4 жыл бұрын
"Reprint the fetchlands! It will make them more affordable!" WotC- Hold my beer, I've got money to make
@NewRetroGaming
@NewRetroGaming 4 жыл бұрын
He said “I’m not yucking your yam” and that is going to be my new favorite thing to say the next couple weeks!
@michaelroywright9975
@michaelroywright9975 4 жыл бұрын
Professor here looks like he could beat anyone at WotC in a game of bowling.
@jek__
@jek__ 4 жыл бұрын
That opening screen, my brain really tried hard to read it as "the gang sells out"
@ItsDangerousGoAlone
@ItsDangerousGoAlone 4 жыл бұрын
This episode literally explains why my friends and i play cube. Like why would we spend hundreds?
@starperro4441
@starperro4441 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to play paper Magic, but oh boy, it's expensive as hell! It's a luxury when you live in Mexico. :(
@ginzomelo
@ginzomelo 4 жыл бұрын
In Brazil too. We paid something like 20~25 bucks of our money for a single booster pack :( Wizards don't care about us. It's like we are merely intruders and they just want rich and obnoxious people playing...
@starperro4441
@starperro4441 4 жыл бұрын
@@ginzomelo It's a sad thing considering the current Mythic Champion is a brazilian.
@Str8upWizardCJ
@Str8upWizardCJ 4 жыл бұрын
Side note the Holiday bundle has a large d20 spindown that is transparent and looks more pink. (definite value)
@boltblackjoker
@boltblackjoker 4 жыл бұрын
That opening skit needs to be its own video, it's so good.
@cheezybred
@cheezybred 4 жыл бұрын
I bet wizards think the fetchland reprint problem is solved with the secret lair nonsense.
@elizabethhicks4181
@elizabethhicks4181 4 жыл бұрын
Probably. Let's not talk about the fact that it still will cost 800 bucks to get a playset of each of the five fetches there... The worst part is that that's simply not how the fetches are played. It'd have been much better if they made five separate lairs with each having a playset of one fetch but that's just too much to hecking ask for now isn't it.
@insomnia7337
@insomnia7337 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt that. They aren't stupid, they're greedy.
@milolink6993
@milolink6993 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Terry Brooks books in your book shelf
@jamiekidd5471
@jamiekidd5471 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice at the start Vince was just playing a Sliver deck and just had harmonic, gemhide and Winged? Maybe I've got an eye for Slivers then...
@Averymon00
@Averymon00 4 жыл бұрын
I was crying because I was laughing so hard at the intro. Beautiful.
@bisharp2176
@bisharp2176 4 жыл бұрын
The bombardment of product info is insane I had no idea when mystery booster was coming out Till Friday day of release
@Caabooose
@Caabooose 4 жыл бұрын
2nd note. I haven't put money into standard in years now. I do draft though (preferably draft days/weekends where going 3-0 wins a free draft ;) ), I sometimes will get a random box for cheap (from judges looking to flip boxes to pay for trips) and draft it with friends which adds to my traders. I also haven't had arena on my computer in months, prior to deleting it i would get "codes" to redeem in my email to bring me back, but everyone of them failed to redeem lol so i never bothered to give them anymore of my time if they couldn't even get the codes working to try to bring me back. Either way I stay away from standard for the most part making cheap decks if i have the cards already from drafts / easily able to trade for stuff with my huge trade binder.
@tylerashcroft847
@tylerashcroft847 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Prof! That mug on your table looks like it might be hand made - do you use hand-made ceramics?
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 жыл бұрын
I do!
@tylerashcroft847
@tylerashcroft847 4 жыл бұрын
@@TolarianCommunityCollege It's the good stuff! As a potter myself, I always enjoy seeing hand made ceramics. Thanks for the great content!
@evthemage97
@evthemage97 4 жыл бұрын
Is there gonna be more dies to removal post corona? Cause I gotta say you are by far one of the best mtg podcasts and it’s getting me through this nonsense. Would hate to see you go.
@sstankfish
@sstankfish 4 жыл бұрын
"At least you get a fetch land." WotC has heard, and now they are mocking you.
@Magiccircle100
@Magiccircle100 4 жыл бұрын
What the heck was that device he talked on at the beginning?
@LemorasCards
@LemorasCards 4 жыл бұрын
My theory has always been that people who get to decide what gets reprinted have a giant conflict of interests by having some massive investment in expensive singles. That's the only thing I can think of that keeps them killing the game.
@DavetheLeg
@DavetheLeg 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like casual Commander decks in the 6-8 (no dual lands and almost no power 9 or reserve list necessary) power level range have been the best value out of all formats & metas considering how long they remain relevant and bang for the buck related to card costs.
@killer998
@killer998 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing that makes standard so expensive is WoTC printing awful Rares and Mythics Rares. The more Rares/Mythics that they print that will never see any format because theyre just bad cards make the good Rares/Mythics that much harder to obtain, making a single card worth $40+. And they know this, they absolutely make the best cards so rare solely to help out the secondary market. Make them more common and people would flock to standard more.
@rockardist
@rockardist 4 жыл бұрын
I have an idea. Make a reprint set. Don't make the rarity too high, but change the set-symbol/color. Then there are more playable card, but the OG cards don't drop too drastically in price. Just make it painfully obvious that you have the reprinted "cheap" version. That way people can still collect and boast about their expensive fetches
@derrinashley6807
@derrinashley6807 4 жыл бұрын
Pokemon company releases collector boxes and tins that contain staples for standard format at prices that essentially neuter the secondary market for them. Making top tier decks more accessible without crushing their customers. It's a shame Wizards can't see how this makes that game such a better experience for their players. Secret Lair does seem like a step in that direction though, yet people complain because it takes money away from the LGS
@seankuhn6633
@seankuhn6633 4 жыл бұрын
Lands!! (shocks are #1 need imo) Thank you for discussing this fundamental topic! :D 545 +/- 63 boosters rely on wildcard =×4 playsets on arena (* )(**) 7%of set* = not designed for draft 2% of that* makes it to modern Pioneer Really helps with that
@bradleykyonizuka2558
@bradleykyonizuka2558 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't died to removal in awhile... Rewatching my favorite intro
@kiranm8569
@kiranm8569 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing that can be said is that at least they aren't putting new cards in Secret Lairs, or ones that will ONLY be available in Secret Lairs...yet.
@FirstNameOnReapersWishList
@FirstNameOnReapersWishList 3 жыл бұрын
The good thing for standard for me as a returning players is that i know all the cards and mechanics in the few expansions. For long term buying a modern deck might be cheaper but I cant relate to it very well, since I got the feeling I constantly have to learn "new" old cards...
@alcouture
@alcouture 4 жыл бұрын
That skit was your best one yet. Very funny!
@PleasantKenobi
@PleasantKenobi 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't read one fucking comment about my wonderful Sushi socks! Oh cmon you lot! I love those socks!
@benjaminramsey1822
@benjaminramsey1822 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as they did the IASIP intro, I knew it would be the best intro ever
@georgem7502
@georgem7502 3 жыл бұрын
Fwiw, I loved the Amonkhet frames for the masterpieces
@brningpyre
@brningpyre 4 жыл бұрын
When he says, "Don't say the video's outta date, that's stoopid," at 22:08 did the prof grow a Boston accent for a second, there?
@ZionandStryfe
@ZionandStryfe 4 жыл бұрын
I truly think that having frequent Secret Lair drops isn't great for players. Yes players can elect to not buy it, but I quickly get drained from my budget for cards in a short amount of time with no time in between to build up a buffer before the next one goes by. I'd love to have gotten Women's Day Secret Lair but I can't afford to do that constantly so I just miss out.
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi 4 жыл бұрын
Another problem is with the limited availability. This is my hobby, not my job. I missed the women's day one because work kept me really busy for awhile, and missed the time to order it.
@sanaru02
@sanaru02 4 жыл бұрын
That intro was fucking gold :D
@instiva8760
@instiva8760 4 жыл бұрын
The intro nailed it
@cmlogan7094
@cmlogan7094 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best opening sketch so far. So true and funny/sad.
@BluesbreakerWyatt
@BluesbreakerWyatt 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, price of current standard decks are driven by cards being multiformat staple. Temur Reclamation is expensive because of shocklands, fabled passage, Uro and Brazen Borrower. Other cards are pretty cheap, the same is for Fires.
@GoblinTherapy
@GoblinTherapy 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, price discrimination in action. Thanks WoTC, giving real life examples to economic concepts.
@henzomascarenhas5071
@henzomascarenhas5071 4 жыл бұрын
Fetch Lands, the reason Pauper is so popular here in Brazil...
@garmatey3816
@garmatey3816 4 жыл бұрын
It appears that for the first time we’ve moved into an era where mtgs oldest players are starting to have more and more lots of disposable income.
@MoarCheeseBirb
@MoarCheeseBirb 4 жыл бұрын
I just flat out don't recommend Magic to my friends.
@neil2451
@neil2451 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone recommending magic to a friend in 2020 is a horrible friend lol!
@zacklothamer9533
@zacklothamer9533 4 жыл бұрын
What I don't like about the lairs is the limited print to demand aspect I would have loved to have the explosion sounds lair for my wort boggart Auntie commander deck but now I will have to hunt and pay a premium for those printings if I really want them because I didn't have the excess money available to order the lair
@alaricpaley6865
@alaricpaley6865 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when you could buy modern decks for $400 and that was middle of the road. Those where the days... On the Draft thing though, you usually get to keep them cards. So if you're a Draft player and are selling off cards, you can go positive.
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 4 жыл бұрын
3:45 DAMMIT WE WERE SO CLOSE!!!
@yairgomez9090
@yairgomez9090 4 жыл бұрын
I feel that we missed such an epic rant about the fetchlands secret lair on this episode xD
@noahhoffenberg6971
@noahhoffenberg6971 4 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the moment people want TP over shock lands
@orufoin9005
@orufoin9005 4 жыл бұрын
The intros keep getting better
@Brooks0511
@Brooks0511 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the it’s always sunny in philly intro
@donnydaytona5816
@donnydaytona5816 4 жыл бұрын
Okay I'm back I just had to check what "yucking your yarm" meant and well yeah. It's yum. It's yucking your yum. Cheers Vince. Back to the video.
@sephyrias883
@sephyrias883 4 жыл бұрын
So this was from before the Fetchland secret lair (see: 22:20, 31:40). Not that this one product changes the cost of fetchlands much if at all, but it would've been good to have that covered here. 12:05 I'm pretty sure we had competitive Standard decks for less than $100 just before the previous rotation, like the mono blue deck that won the Mythic Championship. $150 for a single colored Standard deck is already pretty high. 19:10 Ehh, what about Tron and Amulet Titan? Those decks have 0 fetches and still costs well over $600 (due to Walking Ballista, Cavern of Souls, Chalice of the Void, Amulet and Azusa). Not to mention decks with Stoneforge Mystic and Aether Vial. 56:40 But muh REPR I N T E Q U I T Y !
@cloroxbleach6673
@cloroxbleach6673 4 жыл бұрын
Magic is getting expensive- Laughs in 40k
@jessicalepins1433
@jessicalepins1433 4 жыл бұрын
I play warhammer classic (v8) just because it's affordable and I've friends that do the same. This licence is ridiculousely expansive !
@Cinomod6066
@Cinomod6066 4 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair wotc have doem their damndest to catch up to that level of unafordability. Hell for 1 fetch land you could build yourself a full kill team these days or damn near close to one and play all the games you want and the minis will always be good to play with lol
@JaysonPrime
@JaysonPrime 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the main reason the game get's more expensive is because of people like Rudy, who treats the game like an investment and the people who pay for the overpriced items the investors buy out.
@CharlieDebts
@CharlieDebts 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is better than beating a $600 deck with your $80 deck.
@grasshopper1153
@grasshopper1153 4 жыл бұрын
The prices for blue cards like Force of Negation, Teferi Time Raveler, and Brazen Borrow are outrageous on MTGO. We need MTGO Modern and Legacy bundles to help out players.
@matthewsalisbury4045
@matthewsalisbury4045 4 жыл бұрын
Do you count the SDCC 2019 God-Eternal promo's as a WOTC product in 2019?
@nantukoprime
@nantukoprime 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to absolutely love it if they reprint the fetchlands in some of the Jumpstart decks rather than Commander Legends. I'll also hate it, but a part of me will love it. It depends on whether the 'unique' cards are standard legal with the product's association with the Core Set or not.
@redheadkid2554
@redheadkid2554 4 жыл бұрын
Fetchlands can be in standard, but not until shock lands are rotated out, mana bases will be too good.
@thedarklight247
@thedarklight247 4 жыл бұрын
so with the other card games part, as a yugioh player (as well as mtg of course), certain cards which are key to optimising certain decks cost almost equivalent to fetch lands, like Pot of Extravagance (£80 each at peak), Lightning Storm (£90ish each at peak) and Fantastical Dragon Phantazmay (£80ish each at peak) just as 3 examples of "staple" cards. I don't think competitive viability and budget are 2 words that will ever be connected when it comes to card games
@salrusso8768
@salrusso8768 4 жыл бұрын
I got a playset of p-deltas for 18/per delta. Granted they are not foils but they serve the same purpose.
@netopian
@netopian 4 жыл бұрын
47:30 Eldraine did not have a Deck Builder's Toolkit as it skips a set
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize that selling surplus fish is a qualification for a job at Wizards. It kind of explains everything.
@thomasvanacker3722
@thomasvanacker3722 4 жыл бұрын
Ravnica Allegiance Collector Boosters, I think you forgot those.
@kaatheserpent1199
@kaatheserpent1199 4 жыл бұрын
You two are a great duo, the opening skit was great
@tiagochoairy9755
@tiagochoairy9755 4 жыл бұрын
Now, that you are WOTC insider, could you tell me of oubliette is gonna be reprinted on jumpstart ?
@jonharv3y869
@jonharv3y869 4 жыл бұрын
Epic prank makeup tutorial indeed. sleeping kitten cute rescue platypus, no less. I'd love to brew in Modern, but those fetches KILL me. At the prospect of saving up for a netdeck, I'm not able to tell if a deck is good enough to be fun OR if it's too good and will be banned. 🤷‍♂️
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