Different approach to simmering alcohol stove

Different approach to simmering alcohol stove - MYOG #4

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6 ай бұрын

I have tackled the issue of simmering with an alcohol stove by simply using a smaller burner after having tried trangia style simmer rings and such without much success.
There are many alcohol stove construction videos on KZbin but I have never seen one that relates the surface area of a burner to its burn time for a given volume of alcohol. I have found this to be true (almost) regardless of construction type. Maybe this relationship between volume of alcohol burnt in a given time is obvious but nonetheless its worth stating.
For boiling anything over half a liter of water my first choice is a trangia storm cooker but anything less and a trangia is massively over powered even with the simmer ring. I know quite a few people successfully use a trangia with small volumes but I'm not one of them so I build my own smaller stoves. I have experimented with adding simmer rings and similar devices to my homemade stoves but found them to be inconsistent in their results. Therefore I use burners of different surface area to obtain rapid boil and simmer.
I welcome your comments.

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@bobprince1472 5 ай бұрын

Seems a simple enough solution. I never liked the Trangia simmer ring because it seems an inelegant design. Because you are cutting up bits of aluminium, you might as well design an insert for the larger burner. It seems that boiling water requires higher energy input in order to do it in reasonable time so you need an efficient burner for that, but for cooking you don't need that much efficiency so almost anything that wicks the flame will do. Click on my picture to see some of my solutions to that problem (I'm not claiming they are any better).

@EpicureanHikers 5 ай бұрын

I've looked at your video and like it a lot. I once used foil pie dishes to cook my morning porridge when backpacking as it saved cleaning up a pot. Never thought to use the pie dishes as a storm cooker.

@thomasmusso1147 Ай бұрын

👍👍👍 .. nice, very nice 😊. I too, discovered some time ago, that using home-made burners with different surface areas is a simple way to control heat output. I like your idea of using Aluminium Sheeting to fabricate the Burner Holder .. must take a closer look at that. Will do so after I have managed to salvage some sheeting somewhere. Currently, besides my Esbit Folders, I use Tuna Cans, holes appropriately drilled for ventilation (the Can to put the Burner inside), accompanied by foldable Tripods made from reclaimed Stainless Steel Bicycle Spokes / Barbeque Skewers and 2mm Aluminium Ferrules. I bend the bottom Foot Pieces of the Tripod Assembly inwards and upwards. This makes for a larger load-bearing 'footprint' and also allows for the Tuna Can (which sits inside the Tripod) to be raised off the ground .. further reducing heat transfer down to 'sensitive' surfaces and protecting the burner from cold below. I also have Tripods that fit snugly inside the Tuna Cans .. just another 'variation on the theme' 😏. Soft Drink Burners. I have another variance thereof. Cut the top and bottom of one can to size. Remove the top of the Can Tab. 'Flute' the top Section. Fill it with Ceramic / Glass Wool or Carbon Cloth and gently press it into the bottom half until it 'seats' and Bob's your Uncle (I 'tap' the bottom of the can flat for extra fuel capacity). The centre 'Drinking Hole' puts out plenty heat (if required, one can always punch additional holes in the top with a Swiss Army Knife). 'Simmer Ring' .. the 'pull off' Lid of the Tuna Can works like a charm. Leave the Tab on (it can be swivelled in and out as required .. 'finger grip'), cut to size and 'hole' to suit. Thanks for the share .. it's always nice to see other ideas on a favourite subject and learn from them 😊. Take care ..

@EpicureanHikers Ай бұрын

There's a lot of fun to be had making your own gear. Alcohol stoves especially due to their simplicity and ease of construction. Best of all you can make one that meets your specific needs. I haven't found the ideal stove yet but trying out new ideas is half the fun. The stove stands I make from aluminium flashing or door kick plate which are quite thin. The slot is the hardest part to form. A dremel works well as does a junior hacksaw. The trick is to have a plate that holds the two "legs" as this firms up the assembly. Thank you for watching my videos and taking the time to comment.

@thomasmusso1147 Ай бұрын

@@EpicureanHikers 👍

@aparecidomiranda1191 3 ай бұрын

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@mygg15 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for this great idea!

@awatt 6 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching

@aparecidomiranda1191 3 ай бұрын

gostei muito Parabéns

@orraman5427 6 ай бұрын

Option #3 Seal the corners of the pan in the BCB stove with J-B Weld or equivalent and insert carbon felt pad or fibreglass rope and use a simmer plate which blocks off about half of the surface area.

@EpicureanHikers 6 ай бұрын

I tried something like that and it didn't work for me. I found that using a smaller burner to be reliable. Thanks for watching

@robertfreeman6082 8 күн бұрын

Option 4 which I have done (not my idea though) is to flatten the internal pan so that you can put in different size burners as needs be. And if you still want to use a Firedragon or Esbit it cube rather than using a liquid alcohol burner then just take something like a shoe polish tin or lid to sit the table in.

@eschneider8799 6 ай бұрын

Nice home made lid for that cup, l made one for my usgi cup. ✌🇨🇦

@EpicureanHikers 6 ай бұрын

I didn't make a tidy job of it because all I did was fold the edges of thin aluminium with a pair of pliers. It works well enough and I like the agricultural feel that it has. Thanks for watching

@aparecidomiranda1191 3 ай бұрын

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@EpicureanHikers 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@ciliciaann3504 24 күн бұрын

Thank you for sharing. I really like the burner holder. It would be great if you could post a scan/pattern or detentions of it. 😎👍

@EpicureanHikers 24 күн бұрын

drive.google.com/file/d/181LQwgnHmLGWmGIUej6kddmJP_kpvv-_/view?usp=drivesdk drive.google.com/file/d/1-9uPueinzidg4YkHLDUh3NKxPgML_yEM/view?usp=drivesdk Adjust size to suit. I'd recommend making from cardboard first. Assembly can be difficult so see how I put one together. I assemble one of the "legs" onto the plate first then the second leg. First time you try you will see what I mean.

@ciliciaann3504 23 күн бұрын

@@EpicureanHikers Thank you so much.

@QuantumPyrite_88.9 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for a most interesting video. From Apache Land - New Mexico USA . The place with plenty of rattlesnakes, but few people that know who Epicurus is.

@EpicureanHikers 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and I am glad you enjoyed it. One of my hiking friends is a keen student of the classics and introduced me to that branch of philosophy. Before that all I knew about Epicurus is that it was a brand of food.

@eschneider8799 6 ай бұрын

Just watched three of your vids 👍 Nice to see a different idea about alcohol stoves but do you not use a wind screen ? Cheers 🇨🇦

@EpicureanHikers 6 ай бұрын

I always use a wind shield even in still air conditions that completely enclosed the stove. It's opened up for filming but it's there.

@chriser9737 2 ай бұрын

Really good video, enjoying your cooking ideas... Given me a few of my own... New subscriber here!

@EpicureanHikers 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. I hope to get a few more videos up later in the year. I want to get away from dehydrated meals and as i tend to do a lot more day hikes these days I'm experimenting a lot.