Let's Talk Vanguard Dear Days Pricing

[@ZombieHawkz]

I've said it before but if this is indeed FuRyu's fault for the high price tag for the base game and DLC then I want Bushiroad to reconsider their relationship with FuRyu. If DD doesn't sell well enough then I think one of two things might happen: 1. Bushi misinterprets it as people outside of Japan don't care about a proper Vanguard game and will never release another one outside of Japan again. 2. They realize the poor sales is FuRyu's fault and not because fans don't care about the game. If number 2 is the outcome then Bushiroad needs to reconsider their relationship with FuRyu after all these years if they wish to expand Vanguard into the West with video games and grow the community further. This means dropping FuRyu as the developers for Vanguard games and getting a new dev team for future projects.

[@roxas105ful]

I hope not for number 1, I didn’t realize that battle spirit was high as well

[@Gummeyy]

i mean wasn’t that the case with previous titles? bushi thinking international playerbase never care for vg and so we never got any english release of EX, if something bad happen with this game, bushi for sure gonna take number 1 option.

[@roxas105ful]

@@Gummeyy but most of us didn’t get the game over here like vanguard zero,me and my friends got EX cause we wanted a main line vanguard game, dear days was our opportunity to play against each other but bushiroad thinking we are interested but we are upset with the pricing, hell the dlc made me really upset

[@nethxing]

nah the 1 is more realistic

[@NeoKarByne]

It's harder to convince someone they've been fooled than it is to actually fool them. Ain't no way Bushi is going to admit they fucked up or made a bad call on another company fucking up their IP.

[@Dominoparis21]

Honestly it's very disappointing how they chose to go about this. For years I've always wanted a Cardfight Simulator like Master Duel and Shadowverse. I don't see why they could not offer the same and have it available on all platforms with cross play. Also the PC version of Dear Days plays horribly in my opinion. I would justify the high price point of entry if it was a Deluxe Edition with goodies like cards and products like other games do.

[@lobonunez7817]

yea they slowly killing there own game 😩

[@ashemabahumat4173]

They can't just do what konomi does, good or bad ideas alike

[@HyouVizer]

shit story and characters aside, Shadowverse switch was so damn good for quality of content handled **chef's kiss**

[@ashemabahumat4173]

@@HyouVizer its cheesy as fuck and I haven't beaten it yet, but it was fairly priced and actually got me interested in the game. I already play D and am looking to buy into V, but goddamn. This makes me like the game less somehow, lol

[@Ray5C0rn3r]

simple, the devs are lazy and greedy, its not just the price, they did a terrible job at translation too, like seriously?? they ask for 70$ and cant even translate!?!? not to mention terrible dlc pricing, in every way it looks like a scummy quick cash grab game then dead in 6months

[@TELECHUBBIE]

As an argentinean, I was looking forward to the game. Getting the physical cards ain't easy and for most of us building a full deck gets even harder without reprints due to low stock, taxes and shipping fees. Was really hoping for the game to be an alternative to all of that. But they did us dirty with those prices 😅.

[@kwoloon13]

Bushiroad really looked at WoTC and MTG 30th anniversary pack and said "you want us to disappoint our player base? Challenge accepted"

[@DavidGoodin-d3f]

i think cardfight vanguard dear should get all card sets from all series

[@Dragon_Ryder]

I was hoping you’d make a video on this! Always love your videos. I got Dear Days from the Brazilian eShop, so I’d consider getting some DLC sets, but if it costs too much I might not get it out of principle. Depends on how much I care about the new cards. It just sucks that they took a great way to attract new players and flushed it down the toilet. Hopefully it gets a discount at some point.

[@symphonixblades]

Bushiroad is greedy , they could make Vanguard more popular but their greediness screws that up

[@TrueAce2146]

If you got it from there it's the same cost as you paid to get the game which I assume it's how it is everywhere just like the usa

[@Dragon_Ryder]

@@TrueAce2146 I got the game a few days before the DLC price was revealed. Since I had Brazilian currency left over, I had to use the rest of it before I could switch my account back to America. I lucked out and found a few games that added up to the exact amount I needed to spend. I’d consider going through all that trouble again, but I’m a little worried I wouldn’t be able to get rid of the rest of the currency, and my account would be locked to Brazil. I guess I could buy the pass and use some leftover currency for other DLC like sleeves or fighters, and that would be a lot of money saved. And I could plan out the currency in advance to make sure I can spend every cent. I’m heavily considering it, but I might wait. I don’t know.

[@TrueAce2146]

@@Dragon_Ryder oh you was able to switch your account I just made s new account from that country so everything is separated already and it doesn't seem to be any problem rn

[@Dragon_Ryder]

@@TrueAce2146 I just wanted the purchase to be associated with my main account, in case I need to redownload it from the eShop or transfer to a new Switch or something. I already have a Japanese account from when I bought EX, so I don’t really want to keep track of another regional account. I might use the Brazilian eShop to get the DLC and sleeve set 1, but it’s kinda a tough decision. Not because I can’t afford it, I just don’t know if I want the DLC and I don’t know if I want to support overpriced content. Though I am excited for the game, and buying DLC from Brazil would mean I got everything I wanted for around $60. It sure is tempting.

[@utkarshsh]

It's still bonkers to me that master duel is free to play and soo much f2p friendly And that's Konami

[@Puffle573]

They got the funding for the Silent Hill thing from that

[@Jrpg-Gamer1]

I am happy this is not f2p 💩 I take a full priced game+paid dlc every time over a f2p with lootboxes and microtransactions

[@asphyxia_sadness]

@@Jrpg-Gamer1 imagine pay a dlc in an 70$ games xd

[@DrakenguardShiroyuki]

U do know tht the first old yugioh games cost money .. and only the recent yugioh game was the the only f2p

[@pablomadrid6962]

@@DrakenguardShiroyuki none of the old Yu-Gi-Oh games was 70 dollars + 70 of DLC.

[@tassasing2565]

I've been waiting for this video since I saw the dlc prices. Honestly, they could have done this a 100 times better. I believe one of the fears they have is that they lose tcg players to Dear Days. In my opinion they could have taken advantage of this like they did with Zero, just making tournaments with Dear Days since it'll have a ranked system and they said it'd be updated (at least until chronojet set). The pricing for the game was expected on 60 dollars since EX was around that price in JP and 70 dollars was a surprise. Then the dlc prices were crazy because of how expensive they were having to pay 15 dollars for set separately and 70 for all of them together along with sleeves. But the release dates... they are expecting people to wait until February to play set 6 which already has about 5 months in JP and almost 1 month in EN. By the time it comes out EN would be playing set 8 and JP would be playing set 9. It was crazy. A lot of people wanted to try this game as maybe a simulator before buying the cards after trying them in DD since (at least me) it was expected to be a month difference between tcg and DD like it was said in the video. Also we don't get to know if set 8 and above would be updated to the game after. Honestly, I believe they took one of the worst decisions ever with the marketing strategy with the game. But hopefully they'll take a look at all the emails and maybe do something about it.

[@rolandsantos1816]

At this point, they should have included set 8 in the pass.

[@nekoluxuria7721]

right now looking at other options, and it seems like getting it off play asia is better than getting it locally if you are mainly playing it in single player, there doesn't seem to be many cons to getting it via play asia from what I can scour, checking if it affects your ability to play online or local multiplayer.

[@KevinXmusic]

The first Rush Duel game actually had 3 or 4 FREE card updates in Japan (english didn't get any), adding in about 4-5 sets I believe, which included the new Fusion mechanic which wasn't in the base game. The final update also gave every character in the game new decks, which means a lot of content was added, and you could fight AI with their fully updated decks (nevermind the amount of new summoning animations and voice lines added). The DLC was pretty much just buying complete decks, so you could skip it. I'm genuinely surprised how generous Konami was and that makes this whole Vanguard thing even more shocking. Nevermind the fact that EX released up to date on the week. I'm just upset because the way this is going, we'll likely NOT get Set 8 too which really sucks, because that set looks so much fun. I would have been perfectly fine with this DLC being $30 while we pay another $30 for Set 8, 9 and Messiah

[@thatanonwholurksmoar7386]

I'm still livid about the missing updates on rush duel here in the west

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

They’ll probably add them in when Yu-gi-oh sevens English dub gets to its second season.

[@thatanonwholurksmoar7386]

@@bearerofbadnews1375 is that even gonna happen? The wait has been little over a year now

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 it might Sevens in English is currently in the Goha 6 arc after it is the tournament arc that ends the 1st season.

[@woodlanddox]

I used Matt's Brazil trick you mentioned. My wife and I both play so the 70 dollar price tag would have been WAY too much as we both have our own switch. She's new to the franchise (she just entered BCS with me!) and this is a HUGE learning opportunity. And that's my main concern: helping new players learn or even experienced players expand. The standard price in one of the biggest markets is just a block to that.

[@luisgonzalez3595]

Brazil trick gets you game, DLC, and then some for a little under $60

[@gEEKLEEKs]

Is there a link to a tutorial?

[@tikilinde407]

is this for switch or steam?

[@rushiuppu4180]

@@tikilinde407both can work but this method is mainly switch as steam doesn't allow the cross region stuff anymore

[@ultradmann2367]

I've always wanted to get into Vanguard digitally due to the fact I know nobody near me that plays it physically. I started by just randomly watching the show on KZbin up to Link Joker, thought the rules were kinda cool, loved the card art and the vibe of the game itself. Figured a video game would come out eventually....oh....only in Japan you say. Okay they'll get ported....(Nope). Oh one heard about this one coming out earlier this year got hype, then kinda forgot about it until I randomly looked on the eShop and saw this game that is the exact same price as God Of War: Raganarok and more than Pokemon. I simply will never play this game.

[@paradoxtheruler7596]

if you want another way to look at it, you could buy a box of Vanguard (or 2) or buy the game. Paid it and haven't regretted no matter what i say when the ai gets 2 critial triggers and kills me when im at 3 damage

[@creeds968]

Play the game at Cardfight Vanguard Arena

[@lxMattAranxl]

Played the demo... and was shocked with all the typos I saw. I really hope it's fixed, given it's high price.

[@SpartanTrigger]

The demo used auto translation I heard

[@deltaed3517]

@@SpartanTrigger not really inspiring hope rn if this is true, imagine paying 70 dollars for a VN experience that cannot even do that

[@thatanonwholurksmoar7386]

They probably won't. Seeing how they don't even care for proper pricing

[@Hyac1nth]

I mean, the typos mostly seem to be in the tutorial.. which is still unfortunate for new players

[@necrobach4854]

@@SpartanTrigger “no lose intended” yeah… sounds like it was auto translated

[@thefiretrainer4858]

As a potential new player who has been trying to get into Vanguard for around a year due to friends not being interested (and you can only battle with yourself and the same 2 decks for so long before you lose your mind lol), this pricing is going to be a huge kill factor as like most people probably ive just preordered Scarlet and Violet so I am really hoping that with the Steam winter sale this game will drop to around 40 or even 50 which would be great for the community as a whole to get the newer players into the game. Besides the point, been really enjoying your videos and can't wait to see the dear days content!!

[@jamesblue41]

THANK YOU! You addressed all my problems with these damn prices that the company has just 💩 out. I want this game to succeed and grow with all of standard and this is such a wall and pretty greedy of them to just charge so much for cards you won't get to play off the bat.

[@afonrouge]

I fear this is furyu making it fail to be able to say“ see we ported out to the west and didn’t get support. Never ask us to port again”

[@TheUndefinedGhost]

That's exactly what's going to happen. If it doesn't succeed then we're shafted once again.

[@ghostglitch5355]

@@TheUndefinedGhost they better reconsider Furyuu as a developer cause this isn't our fault.

[@lildjxfactor]

So years ago when Vanguard first came out. I was interested in the TCG, I even got Dragonic Overload/Toshiki Kai's starter deck. At that point in time my friends and I were already playing Yu-Gi-Oh, I was interested in trying out the new card game but none of my other friends were committed to trying it out. Now years later, a few months ago (around May/June) some of my online friends mentioned they were interested in getting back into Vanguard, and I was down and willing to pick up, learn, and actually play the game for once. Convenient enough at that point in time Dear Days was revealed and announced. Which got me excited since as a Yu-Gi-Oh player who has played the TCG competitively, I played YGOPRO, I enjoyed Legacy of the Duelist, and when Master Duel came out I was happy and excited for them to release a F2P game that has cards across all of the series itself, of course there is micro-transactions but it is also cross-platform and cross-play. I played Vanguard with said friends that I mention on Tabletop, we went with Premium and V-Premium format. I also played and tried out Vanguard Zero and I had fun with both, but I wanted a Vanguard game that is similar to the actual TCG equivalent to Yu-Gi-Oh and Legacy of the Duelist or Master Duel along with mechanics being automated for convenience and being able to play with friends or other players online. I was still excited for Dear Days even after learning it was going to be in Standard format, which I don't mind learning, picking up, and playing even though it wont be as vast or as dynamic as Premium format, I was just excited to play the actual TCG virtually. then I played the demo of Dear Days, which wasn't bad though there were things I was surprised with them not having or including, like being able to change Key Bindings for convenience and compared to the Yu-Gi-Oh games that I mentioned or even Vanguard Zero, there was no unique presentation to give that impact when you bring out that Grade 3 Vanguard, which was a bit underwhelming but I was still satisfied knowing at least I can play Vanguard genuinely with official rule set and mechanics, and it would be in a format that is easy to digest for new players to the game as a whole or the format. But then a couple of days ago, seeing how the price hasn't been revealed on Steam yet for Dear Days. I decided to open the Nintendo website, find Dear Days, and then I saw that price. I am now less likely to get the game since I am also getting Pokemon, I might try to buy the game still whether is waiting to see if they eventually drop the price/it goes on sale, or getting the game in a different country/region just so it is easier to obtain without it costing soo much, not to mention I wasn't aware that the DLC for the games will cost just as much as the game itself. It really lowers the encouragement for me to get the game and try it out, along with my friends who play Vanguard, they aren't willing to spend 70 dollars, plus they are competing with other online TCG games. From ones you can buy and play like Legacy of the Duelist, or F2P like Master Duel, or Legends of Runeterra, Hearthstone, etc. If the issue is the Dev's/FuRyu and it isn't Bushiroad that placed the game in such a high price, I do hope things change not only so that I can get the game and play it, but if they want to compete with the other digital TCGs and have more people interested and get invested in to Vanguard entirely, They need make changes for the better for the community and the potential for the franchise as a whole.

[@cytonicflame]

With this being the first English game, and seeing how anything local has been canceled here it is pretty upsetting seeing how much it cost. Due to this it is the only way I can ever really try to get into D. Hopefully it will be a great game when it comes out and I can try to get some people into to get some locals going again

[@ArgivePrincess]

I loved the regional pricing, in Brazil Dear Days has almost the same price as those overdress start decks. Here those "3 or 4 dollars" cost around R$110 while DD is R$127. I hope so much that steam will have regional pricing too cuz Nintendo left Brazil in 2015 so they consoles are so expensive as Vanguard physical stuff. A Switch in Brazil is around R$2300 wich is entire 2 mounths of work if you earn minimum wage

[@felizpanda]

Nintendo actually came back to Brazil in 2020. Still no regional pricing though, which sucks. DD feels so cheap in comparison to most of the games I want on Switch...

[@-ZRG-]

The shoutout is much appreciated, mate. I'm extremely glad that big names in the CFV community are willing to address this whole situation, even with it so close to release. My relationship with modern Vanguard in *general* has been extremely shaky, and I give it a LOT of hell. I won't pretend like I don't. But above all of that, it's just frustrating to see CFDD turn out like this when I was *hoping* for it to be my way to play the game again after Covid(and a lack of Health Insurance) have made attending locals where I live far too risky and unnerving.

[@topdanielunlimited5342]

I was hella hyped for this game. Yeah, I can't afford buying boxes for each set, plus, I don't have friends that want to play with me anyway, so the game was amazing news when I first heard it. The announcement was made exactly at the time I took interest in it. But man, the prices tho.

[@Samurai-no4wu]

Exactly this game was supposed to finally be a way for me to play this game at all since I have no one to play it with and all the other games of it are in Japanese. But sadly the price does not much the product at all

[@bryanmerel]

Just a reminder that because of how Diamond Economy works in the game, you can build all the Competitive Yu-Gi-Oh deck you want in Master Duel, FOR FREE. And THE GAME ITSELF is *FREE.*

[@CloudYasami2]

Honestly, I was waiting ever since I started playing Vanguard all those years ago for a game like this. Where I live I only have like 1 or 2 People to play with and I really wished for something like ygopro for cardfight. The price does seem a bit high (I live in germany so it's probably gonna be a little high but still kind of standard game pice) but honestly I am willing to play for it. I also pre ordered Pokémon and I honestly have to say it really doesn't bother me at all. I can play pokémon with my son and then when he goes to sleep I can play a bit of Vanguard, or vice versa. But of course that is just my opinion. I will buy it on steam because my friends buy it for steam too. The pricing for the dlc is pretty insane though, I did not expect that. I will most likely only buy the base game and just play for fun.

[@dred_dreamr]

The scariest thing about this game for me is that they may just stop updating it. With EX it released with the cards it had and that was it, so it quickly became outdated. With Master duel we were told beforehand that the game would keep up (relatively speaking) with the tcg - however we have had no such confirmation with DearDays…

[@CloudYasami2]

@@dred_dreamr Yes that is my concern as well. If you think about it Set 7 comes 31st of May 2023, until then we will probably have 1 or 2 more sets, and what if they never update it? Then we have to wait so long to play a set that will be old already by that time. Thinking about it I would probably only purchase Set 6 and 7. I do not like lyrical anyway, and I do not need to play the chrono deck. And if you think about it, you get the set in germany for 16,99 Euros, a full display often costs around 60-70 Euros irl, so you basicly get all the cards for 16,99 (since you can buy the packs ingame for the VP that you farm) so from that perspective it actually does not seem too bad. But still, paying for 2 games for something that in my opinion should be in the game from the start (or at least set 6) is just so...frustrating you know? But knowing me, I will most likely still buy it because I am a whale and I love Vanguard

[@Jrpg-Gamer1]

Here in the netherlands its €58.99 on switch so it should be the same price in germany (still hope the steam version is cheaper) but i will be a day 1 buy anyway

[@CloudYasami2]

@@Jrpg-Gamer1 same, as soon as i get the steam notification I will purchase it xD

[@SoraDestiny471]

because of the pricing, it makes my decision to buy drop from 100% to like 40%-50%. I want to buy the game because of online but if the price especially the dlc is too expensive for me just to play online, I would rather don't buy it for online and switch back to cfa. And also there are ways to play the game just for the story without buying which will tempt most people. Just like you said, they are really losing opportunity to open up the franchise

[@bullrext]

Yeah the pricing really does feel crazy Not to mention the weird release date, really hope FuRyu listens to the community about this

[@sayo4944]

I am not a cardfighter player, but I've been interested in playing for a while. I was looking forward to this as a chance to jump into this game. The price though has really put me off, I doubt i will buy it on release now.

[@luangnacooper2527]

You're much better off starting on Vanguard Zero if you're new to the game.

[@Kakorott]

As someone who has 0 local presence, Dear Days was going to finally be my chance at a regulated way to play Vanguard with other people and maybe even convince a buddy or two to try the game out for themselves. That's just not realistic anymore at $70, and as someone who has been on the sidelines for so long it is a massive bummer.

[@reignis9937]

I was waiting for the shadowverse mention because i recall getting it for 30 euros, and this is not to mention is a game with 3D models and scenarios, which is a lot of work. Also special mention to Rush Duel which got supported in the long run.

[@kbydance]

I also feel like it's Furyu... I kind of hope Bushiroad moves forward with a different company instead cause the prices are ridiculous...

[@thatanonwholurksmoar7386]

Bushi knew what they were doing. Is not like they went fully ignorant into Furyu

[@kbydance]

@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 I assume Furyu sets the price and Bushiroad is working with them because they've already got an engine for the game developed. I also don't know if they expected such a ridiculous price for release in the US.

[@phoenixw4699]

I'm only sticking to switch for now since my laptop only hits recommended graphics but not the intel core, and going for recording/streaming it after getting a capture card for the console. Rather not risk having a decent amount of issues with my laptop for now. Will get the steam version to replay it after getting my brother in law's old pc build, minus the case and hard drive whichever comes 1st capture card or this.

[@alandubois159]

Never considered that FuRyu could have been the one to set the price, not Bushiroad. Still, I sent my email to Bushiroad and they said they forwarded it to the appropriate department. Which kinda seems like a blow-off but I'll take what I can get. More than likely I'll still by the game. Perhaps after Cyber Monday here the US. BUT. I'm going to transfer my account to my friends own consoles so they can download the game. If I'm not mistaken once the game is downloaded onto the system anyone can play it. It's kinda reassuring that FuRyu could have been the one that set the price and not Bushiroad. Means that Bushiroad wouldn't have done this deliberately which would be shooting themselves in the foot. Used to think that they maybe did it on purpose so they would have an excuse not to release video games internationally.

[@Jehriko]

My locals are non-existent. My options are 1)spend $70 on DD, or 2) moving on from Vanguard.

[@lynxace1602]

Cardfight Area or Untap. it's free, and you can find opponents from across the world. in case of Untap, you can even play cards the same day Bushi reveals them on live stream. a friend of mine already fought against Luquier in Standard

[@sammydray5919]

Just play on Area if you are that desparate

[@shmarfle47]

Compared to the quality of Master Duel which is FREE, this huge starting price for DD is simply extreme. I’d gladly pay up to $50~ for this but $70 is a whole fucking lot.

[@skylernguyen8600]

I mean you can't really compare the two games despite both being TCG, since one is buy once and you'll get everything and the other is a essentially Gacha game.

[@shmarfle47]

@@skylernguyen8600 Given how card game video games usually go, DD will definitely have a pack system as well making it a gacha as well

[@skylernguyen8600]

@@shmarfle47 a gacha system and a gacha game arent the same Xenoblade 2 had a Gacha system(kinda for that whole blade summon thing), but is not a Gacha game Gacha games is just you pay more to get what you want

[@tweetugwe1270]

@@skylernguyen8600 So, DD do have a gacha system and most of the eay to get cards is just to pull packs or craft them, literally like the other free-to-play card games on the market. Dear Days already charging for future cards as DLC while other free-to-play only make it as a free update.

[@lupunthe69th60]

@@tweetugwe1270 The packs are bought by in-game point currency you get from playing the game. There is no spending money to get cards from packs on top of this steep price

[@imblizxard8554]

What sucks about this is that for someone like me that lives in the US and has nobody to play the physical game with, this is the only way I can play the game that I love so it just feels so wrong that these pricings are this expensive and I just have to either pay it or just not play the game.

[@lynxace1602]

there's are F2P alternatives for Vanguard, mostly Cardfight Area or Untap. I've been using Untap for years and honestly it's great! their discord server is a chill place, too

[@newlegend2402]

You could join the vanguard discord. That's what I did

[@imblizxard8554]

@@newlegend2402 that’s how I normally play it’s great everyone is so friendly

[@imblizxard8554]

@@lynxace1602 thank you for the suggestion I will definitely have to check those out

[@lowelltan2711]

Just checked the price on steam, in my country it's roughly 34 USD. I'm not sure if it's regional pricing it steam.

[@LittIeClank]

Just a heads up for people thinking of doing the different region eshop method, if you move your profile to another switch you could lose access to the game on that account and are only able to play it on the account that bought it. That's how I lost access to my EX DLC and access to certain games.

[@Shadow298]

In Australia on the Switch the base game is $88.50 plus that much for the DLC, so that prices it right out for most players here.

[@traviscarter3432]

The pricing is nuts but I am getting it anyways just like I got vanguard ex. I agree they are missing out on new players with the pricing. I have been telling all my friends at my local shop about the game but once they see the cost moat of them probably won't buy it

[@rescuerex7031]

I feel like you should actively avoid buying it, hopefully if it at 70 dollars flops they'll reduce the price

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

It’s sucks for me the most the closest shop that I can buy cases and play with people is a hour long drive. On a stroad a terrible fusion of a highway and road. This games online would have saved me long trips and gas.

[@ZaxFSO8083]

The game is $43 on Play-Asia for switch right now, I just bought it there for that price.

[@AmberMetallicScorpion]

it seems that the DLC problem has only gotten worse. i recently checked on steam cause i was interested in it and wanted to see how much i'd have to save up to get the game and DLC's. then i saw that combined, it costs £223, £170 of it being just the DLC's. i could just get 4 or 5 standard priced games for that price. i don't really understand why bushi would put such a high barrier to entry on a game with a fanbase that's already very small compared to its competitors edit: turns out the reason it was showing as £170 to me is because it was showing the additional card pass, aswell as all the things seperately, so it would have been me paying for the same things twice

[@tzera_rhuon]

The pricing for me on the eshop comes to 90$ base game, 107$ dlc (after taxes). Playasia comes to 76$ + shipping

[@GuardianCircleCFV]

Unless the price goes down (which I doubt), I'll most likely have to wait until next month to afford it. Even then I still may hold off on it until a later date since there are some other games that I would much rather spend that amount of money on at this current moment in time. I'll tune into the stream every now and then to check it out 👍

[@RvBnerd618]

So is the game supposed to be released on the Switch today or tomorrow? The eShop states it's on the 16th, while the Bushiroad site says the 17th. I'm confused

[@miguellecaperal7402]

Probably later, because as DF said. The game is going to be released 24 hours from now as the release time is most likely following the JP schedule which is why countries like the US are getting it on the 16th since it'll be 17 after 5 or 4 more hours for JP. Just a hunch though, I don't know the exact time of these releases

[@RvBnerd618]

@@miguellecaperal7402 Most likely. Appreciate the input.

[@DieselJT]

I'm in the US and I'm not thrilled about the price here for a digital game. So I just ordered the japanese physical release for Switch that is coming with the promo cards. With shipping it was about 80 bucks, so more expensive but worth it to me to own the game physically. But a 70 dollar digital Switch game is unheard of, unless its a deluxe edition or something like that! So crazy pricing for this game! But I need to have this in my life.....

[@BakaFighterGaming]

Thank you for clearing the DLCs, pricing and release dates. Kinda thinking that it's the same with SRW 30th and their DLCs

[@zoesequeira5388]

Still waiting for the first steam sale of this game. If it had been like $40 I would have a hundred hours in it by now easy

[@mundy1193]

Did it get any discounts?

[@zoesequeira5388]

@@mundy1193 It's gone as low as $63. Which like yes is a sale but still more than BG3 at full price

[@mundy1193]

@@zoesequeira5388 Yeah it's still not worth it lmfao💀

[@ROBLESADAM]

Is ranked going to be against anyone across the world or are there different servers?

[@DifferentFight]

Yep anyone that’s on the same platform

[@zerogeassuseralt]

Question: What exactly does the dlc give you? Is it just immediate access to the cards + sleeves? Or is it essentially a full paywall to certain booster sets? Is there no in-game way to earn these cards aside from paying for the dlc?

[@Enshin1006]

I'm planning to get the steam version but I think I'm gonna wait and get it closer to Christmas. Won't get sales most likely but it works better for me especially coz pokemon. The DLC I ain't touching till they release. And even then get the ones I specifically care for, mainly set 6 and 7 and chronojet. Not sure about lyrical

[@Butterdogdogwiththabutter]

Ok but what are the KZbinr name to get the game cheaper? He said it @ 8:14

[@kataajaib7104]

What time exactly they open the server?

[@Strider0167]

The price isn’t as issue for me. I already spend a lot of money in the physical. And I know as someone who likes high rarity or likes having the newest decks the price is something I have to pay or I’ll miss my chance of getting the cards due to scarcity or possible high price. So I always save for them ahead of time. But with this digital I feel in comparison to other video game card games is like missing those release day prices on cards. It sucks not much for me but my friends who aren’t as plentiful economically.

[@buckwright2583]

i got the game for the switch and im goin to be playing it when it comes out too but fix feelings bc of the price im happy we finally get a vanguard game in english just hope it will update with new sets as they come out with reasonable prices

[@dinodusty2522]

ik it fwxking dumb they should not be working with the company fu what ever you spell it

[@BlazingLeoV]

Down here in Australia, the game is retailing on the eshop for a whopping $88.50 AUD - with the DLC being about the same - you can get AAA Switch games here for about $69 AUD - it's just disheartening to see them overcharging for this game when it had such a great opportunity to grow communities and their game. I'm hoping that they'll put the game and DLC on like 50% off sale because I'd be willing to pay 90ish bucks if it was the game and DLC

[@woomod2445]

I'm disabled, and I kept wanting a Vanguard video game for years so I could actually play vanguard. I was so hype when i just randomly finding out that a vanguard video game was actually going to be english...but, now I'm dissapointed.

[@miguellecaperal7402]

I'm pretty sure they are also planning on releasing a digital deluxe edition for dear days as if you check info on the Additional Card Pass, you'll see there's mentions of it there. At least I can be happy about one thing, we'll still be getting relatively an average amount of players to be on rank to play with.

[@luigiRobs14]

On the UK eShop the game is £52 which is the average of some new games

[@dontrush4144]

The Switch price in the U.K is £53 which I can discount further by using saved up G.P. I just hope the game is well supported unlike Ygo7 Rush Duels which flopped. Still waiting to see a U.K steam price.

[@awesomewott5137]

Keep in mind there were two legacy of the duelist versions. One with a base price of 20 ( pretty fair price) then...it had 80 dollars of dlc. Coming from someone who bought a lot of it. The link evolution ones were the best versions since it was 60 dollars for everything the one prior had + more. Though it was definitely a let down for how link series was handled. Honestly I'm really happy I found your video though. I've been watching the series and been wanting to play so much. The game just looks so much fun!

[@awesomewott5137]

I'm definitely hoping they never ever go with the same developers they did for the legacy games. It definitely was pretty low tier graphics but I guess that makes sense for the pricing.

[@musty4203]

How does it work with playing online with a Japanese physical copy of the game on the American switch? Do you have to make a Japanese account for it or does it auto locks into the region you are at?

[@DifferentFight]

There's no region lock, so you can use your American account too!

[@musty4203]

@@DifferentFight alright that's good to know thanks for the answer

[@Manaseeker]

Vanguard never really got popular in my local cardshops so I gave up on it pretty quickly even tho it was quite enjoyable and I was hoping I get the chance to play it again with Dear Days like Master Duel did for YGO for me after my local cardshop closed down years ago. But honestly with that price point even for the base game while you have to get the season pass to keep up there wont be any new players and even players of the physical game wont pick it up and the split of the community without cross platform makes it even worse...Im really sad about it but ranked might be pretty dead on arrival

[@NightSterling]

The way i see it its still ALOT cheaper than getting trying to get a physical copy of the cards and not to mention getting a hold of said physical cards aint that easy. If people still think its too expensive then just wait for it to go on sale or you could always just go to table top sim.

[@SageTigerStar]

for a while now it has felt like Bushi is on the verge of doing to Vanguard what they did to Buddyfight. They're making things harder to get into and eventually we might see things just collapse entirely. Secondary market for the physical TCG and FuRyu charging so much isn't helping anything either. We also have more DLC revealed for DearDays but it hasn't been added to the $70 DLC pack, so it's likely going to be a separate transaction on its own (or put into another $70 bundle with other future DLC as well). I've loved Vanguard since 2012, but it feels like the companies and even players themselves are trying to choke the game out til it dies. Not sure it'll survive another reboot if they ever try that again. I say this knowing that they had plans for Overdress to last into like 2025 or something, but that's just what they are hoping for, and if it crashes, it crashes.

[@Greendragonranger671]

I already pre order for switch. i might be getting it for steam

[@mieguistas99]

I personally don't like playing online that much nor do I play standard that much recently, so from the beginning I wasn't that invested in to DD, BUT I do care for it to attract new players and give more availability to play the game for people who don't have locals and etc. However I've already been messaged by friends from other cardgame communities being interested in Dear Days and pretty much instantly get turned away by the price, which is a huge shame. And if DD sells poorly who knows if we are getting another western port for Vanguard games any time soon, so overall just seems like a lose lose situation.

[@Wazu.]

Can anybody explained to me what is dlc and dlc prices? I really don't understand it.

[@denman2991]

long story short you pay to get extra stuff added to the game

[@Wazu.]

@@denman2991 so you’re saying, not only we need to pay for the games, but we also need to pay to get cards and booster packs? How is that even fair 🥲

[@DifferentFight]

DLC is Downloadable Content, which most games have these days. For Dear Days, the base game goes up to Festival Collection 2022, and the DLC let’s you unlock the next 2 main sets, Lyrical set 3 and Chronojet Stride deck set, which you then pull packs for in game (free) to gather the cards.

[@LeviathanCove]

I started seeing videos for DD and it got me interested to play Vanguard for the first time. But that price point in the US is just ridiculous. I’m trying out Zero f2p instead lol

[@MrNathnash]

I thought that dear days being 70 in the usa was bad the steam pricing for Australia is nearly 89 dollars like wtaf are they thinking I paid less for a copy of the new pokemon game like the hell

[@lexsellsmerch3512]

I’m still buying the game and I’m still excited to play it! But I’m just gonna pick and dlc to add as they come out. I know I can skip the lyrical set 3 pack because I don’t play any those decks so I guess that’s one thing I’ll be saving on lol

[@cardnacn6704]

DLC prices and how long the DLC released are seal of the deal to me that I don't want to buy it unless, the price on Steam is a lot cheaper bc there're a lot of games I also want to buy that aren't as expensive as DD. Also, I tried the Demo and it doesn't feel worth the prices that is more expensive than some games like Pokemon S&V.

[@AnglishSligna]

Isn't there a lot of time between December 16 and June first wth... is more time than October to February, just why? (set 6 released on October, and the game version in February, while set 7 comes in December but releases on June first on the game) just why?

[@EmmanuelKai25]

You will be streaming/playing it on steam DF? or on Switch because Japan?

[@carterromanofsky3579]

Wait I can buy a physical switch cart for Nintendo switch from Japan and play it in english?? It said that it was Japanese only but since switch is region free so you could play it but it would just be in Japanese?

[@arkanamaster4961]

No you choose the language before playing the game. The only thing that’s Japanese is the game box and promos

[@eggychu5563]

For me Its been quite a while since I've actually sat down and played Vanguard(2 years actually since I don't have a competent camera for my laptop and its quite hard to adjust) And I want to play dear days since its been a long time ive played the tcg and want a refresher on how the game works Hopefully, the PH Steam price of it wouldn't be that bad Id be actually grateful if the game is just the same price as like, smt nocturne hd(47.12 without the dante pack, the exp/money dungeon pack(separate dlc btw) and around 57.60 usd if you bought the deluxe edition of it) or tales of arise(less than 48.87 usd if base and 61 usd for ultimate edition, with most of the dlc packs, the sao one is actually post-release dlc which is less than 15usd) My only gripe for it right now is that some of my friends actually played it and said it was really clunky and the dialogue is apparently machine translation And hopefully the pricing here should not be that much compared to DJ Max Respect V, where if you want to buy the whole dlc set, you are spending around 7.25x of the base game from the music alone without any auxilliary stuff like gear packs and ost dlc and that is without sale taken into account

[@NeroVingian40]

Lol, I’m from Malaysia and it’s also $70 for us here. Last time I checked, Malaysia was a developing country.

[@blacklightjohn]

As someone in Canada, it's $80 CAD for the Switch version. Unless the Steam version is cheaper, I'm just going to keep it on my wishlist for a while and wait for a sale.

[@LuceFollea]

C’est pourquoi je n’ai pas encore pris le jeu alors que je débute sur vanguard ! C’est en effet dommage ces prix sur ce jeu En tout cas bravo pour ta chaîne !

[@CommandThrow]

If the game was a free gacha like Master Duel you'd easily have to spend WAY more than $70 to build a deck, and you'd be spending forever. Even accounting for paid DLC in the future for Dear Days the spend value is going to be way less.

[@NightShade701]

i just got back into vanguard after having a hiatus since 2017. Was really confused going into the overdress era of the game. The product is super weird where i live, going from no packs to no starter decks or even the recent constructed decks. The store i went to closed permanently during the pandemic, which sucked. now im exclusively buying on tcg hoping im not getting price gouged on packs and singles. this game gave me a lot of hope. but the price tag genuinely scares me, ive already spent so much money on product just getting back into vanguard but 70 for nothing outside of online play and tcg set updates. i just hope this game gets some help.

[@chiyul7576]

They didn’t even care enough to release the demo on switch!!! How I’m supposed to pay $70 without a damn demo to try!

[@byte6205]

Here in Brazil I might get it, cuz I don't have an way to collect the physical card game so dear days is an way for me to play the card game

[@63872276]

If i create a brazil eshop does that mean it can buy it at that price

[@thatanonwholurksmoar7386]

>machine translated >$70 base game >$70 for the card pass >Not even physical release >The card sets date release being from February to June of 2023 >Releasing a day before Pokemon Yeah, they want this to die. This whole thing is unjustifiable. Anyone defending this is out of their fanboy minds.

[@zerored6491]

I tried to let my friend try vanguard because they like urara and want to try her deck.I honesty will buy him the game if he want but a 70$ game+dlc is to much for a new player

[@miguellecaperal7402]

I was gonna do the same for my girlfriend. But I just don't have the sufficient savings right now to even get the 70 dollars for her🥲

[@FilmsGamer]

I'm still hyped for the game but the whole pricing situation has certainly brought the overall mood down on it as a whole.

[@rafaeljulio3465]

I'm brazilian and the 25 usd price tag isn't really cheap for us after conversion (wich is probably a fine price tag for someone who already like vanguard, but for people wanting to start at the game is a big turn off). And for some reason the price has gone up to 35 usd or something like that

[@ericgropuis]

I think it’s just crazy how pricey the DLC is to have a card game video game to have that pricey dlc?? The base game is already asking a lot for it being 69.99 (nice) the other games on the market are slightly cheaper than it and a bigger sale like Pokémon. While I can understand dlc to add in more cards in the future I don’t get why it has to cost as much as the base game to add these cards and when those cards will be available most likely no one will be playing the game anymore with how they have done. With Vanguard EX they just put that game out there and never gave it card updates so the game was already outdated by the time it came out with its last in game set being Raging Tactics. Idk how the base game would go it does seem like it would have a decent amount of packs in it but it will also be outdated unless you buy the DLC and you won’t even have the DLC available until later. This is a game that won’t be giving anymore work after it’s out, it’s not like a service like MTG Arena, Pokémon Online, Yugioh Master Duel which are all free games with transactions but will free to play. This is a 69.99 game in my area with DLC that cost the same for a game that I won’t be playing in the future and might pick up here and there got a few matches. I do mostly play Furyuu I don’t have it confirmed but I have heard that they don’t like to bring games outside of Japan and it could be them trying to force Bushiroad to make the game more expensive than other games in the market. I will still hold blame for Bushiroad for thinking it’s a good idea to release a game right before Pokémon is going to come out and asking for more money than the Pokémon game. They should have just made an online service game imo. Pokémon has been having an online service for the longest time, Magic has had a few in the past but recently has stuck with it and Yugioh finally just made their online service game and all of these aren’t asking people to spend lots of money just to start playing, they are all free to play and you choose if you want to spend more money on it or not. The big 3 have online services and if Vanguard doesn’t want to die off they should get with the times. We should have just gotten an online service that is cross-platform so we can just play some vanguard, we don’t need a story based card game cause most people aren’t going to be paying attention to that and just going through the story mode so they can make their deck. It’s like they are trying to kill this game so they don’t have to have any globe releases. As much as I enjoy the system that Furyuu has made they should consider partnering with someone else to develop games in the future

[@castanha6226]

so furyu also did the crazy prices for batosupi connected battlers... like kris said, best thing to do is sending bushinroad emails, politely btw don't go tell them to "fuck themselfs" you know, and hope for the best, the dream would be a change in price, but my guts say that it might have been some contractual obligation with furyu to have this absolute asinine prices, which would be the worst type of scenario... yeah, we can only send the emails and hope for the best, I already sent mine because I remembered matt's post about it, and I recommend y'all doing it too

[@ryanborelli827]

damn I am buying that Battle Spirits game now too, Im glad you showed it off. IDC if its only Japanese either, I suffered through EX ill make it work! now if only they release a Duel Masters switch game, I would die and go to heaven

[@koyoyoyo1170]

I play the pokemon and ygo online tcg clients(PTCG Live and Master duel respectively). Both are very f2p friendly. A new account can have 1-3 decks easily built with the dust and initial dump of in-game currency. If you cant build anymore decks in the account you can always make a new account for free. I was very excited to play Dear Days but the price point is turning me off. Might pick it up when it goes on a massive sale. 70bucks+DLC just isnt worth it to me

[@celestial8189]

How will the rank system work if the switch and steam player base is different. Will it be combined

[@Auramaster22]

The Game Costing $79.99 in Canada is expensive but ill still playing it but now that i know the DLC is worth the same price to just add 3-4 sets is just not worth to get the DLC for me. Im hoping the DLC pass ends up going on sale from 50% or more off and then ill consider buying it

[@LichLordFortissimo]

I'm probably still going to buy it, since I'm really in a situation where I can't go to locals AT ALL due to work, and if I have enough money to irresponsibly spend on V Decks then I can buy this and have several D Decks to play around with. But if it turns out Sets 6 and 7 are not tied to the pass and will turn up as DLC in any event, hell NO I'm getting that, at any rate

[@miguellecaperal7402]

Just buy the DLC individually, considering that the sets are so far apart from releasing I think our wallets can handle a monthly payment for each set. But yea not a lot of people are going to be paying for the additional card pass, it's just not worth the money.

[@adorkablemikey]

Time to wait for it to go sale then. Just wanted my Vanguard fix that wasnt VZero lol

[@cord5355]

Welp. There goes me getting back into the game.

[@Gunokun]

Someone had to say it. thanks for clarifying that the Developer is the problem and not Bushiroad.

[@LetCallMeSoul]

Would be great to get a downloadedable code from a physical expansion box for the digital game. Steam might be this games saviour. Huge "might".

[@ID_Kevin]

How can I buy this game through a Brazil server?

[@wendelgrant7332]

Honestly i might just hold off on this game till next year. At the current price point you could buy PS+ premium ( provided you own a playstation 4 or 5 ) and get so much more out of it for the same price ( or less if black friday has discounts to it ) I wanted to buy this game but there are too many red flags atm price , dlc price , card sets coming out 3+ months after , potentially no banlist ( so have fun with elder inlet for 5 months ) , etc.

[@kyoryukevin5347]

I am really looking to the game as it has PC version for once (not having a switch when ex is out). However, it just the pricing man. I mean, many of the current players probably can afford it but is it worth buying at this price and play those cards that we have played in physical games again? Moreover, this game will be a bridge where I can finally introduce to my friends from oversea to play who are both OG and new players but I just cant ask them to drop $70 for a game just to play online with me. they might even dislike the game after playing for a week or so.

[@blackrabbit9635]

From the demo it felt story based so I knew it may cost like $30-35. The fact it $70 Based without DLC is crazy. Thankfully it's on steam so in like 3 years it will cost $5

[@tzetfen]

let's hope this would off sale on winter