Mortal Kombat 1 TIER LIST for SEASON 4 - Sub Zero RUINED THE COMMUNITY

SEASON 4 Mortal Kombat 1 TIER LIST - Sub Zero RUINED THE COMMUNITY
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[@Diff]

I don't really think i have a big opinion on the Sub Zero drama. You can go onto Twitter and give your takes to a lot of these big creators (:

[@nicholasross3854]

Like fr! I think most people fear that there is a higher chance of Khameleon getting nerf then Sub getting buff. If Khameleon is nerfed then Sub is fucked. Other characters r good without kameos but Sub seems to need one in order to b viable, plus y tf does Sub have to depend on khameleon. These mf don't know shit, everything sub do is unsafe, especially his klone. His damage is weak asf, he shouldn't have to depend on a kameo to be above average, that's fucked up. Not to mention is kombo starter is predictable asf.

[@darkicytundra]

All of that is so true

[@Radi0Racc00n]

@@nicholasross3854 he is like negative on every special move his vapors has like 31 frame recovery💀 lord buff sub🙏

[@snack_bar2474]

Sub-Zero is the weirdest character in this game because his players actually up-play him lmao I’m undefeated against Sub-Zero players online

[@coreypendergrass5355]

Yo Diff glad you're back! I saw the TrueUnderDawg video! What was up with your camera? Let's Go!!!!!!! 🎮👊🏻🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻

[@binkl2844]

Kung Lao being bottom tier is the biggest lie ever told

[@ITS2G]

I was thinking the same then I thought about it and I rarely see him played past Demi god

[@binkl2844]

@@ITS2Grarity doesn’t excuse viability. I barely ever see Kenshi but he’s obviously top tier

[@BuddyChy]

@@ITS2GI see him used a lot and winning in tournaments. Somewhat situational though, I don’t think anyone uses him almost exclusively though. But Lao is really freaking good. His armored launcher is simply terrifying and top level players know exactly when to use it.

[@marcelbieganski3789]

I despise kung lao, I have always thought he was really good but that's probably just because I'm a Shao main so I'm just gonna get low legged or projectiled all game and he has really good options for both of those

[@ITS2G]

@@binkl2844 yea but Kenshi being rare has a excuse, kung lao is just another character

[@kekchamp_lel6849]

the real sub zero tier list placement is the friends we made along the way

[@Diff]

🤝

[@GhostofBrita]

Its crazy how Sub zero makes averyone angry now 😂😂😂 back in the old mk11 days again lmao

[@ironyobwoc]

having Mileena that low is a wild take😱 a lot of the issues you addressed with her can be solved or worked around with Lao kameo. Not only that but the setups and hard to block things she gets with the hat is so good. I think her neutral is the weakest part of her game still but the hat makes it at least doable.

[@Tedforsure]

*I'm not gonna lie, legit everytime I watch Mk1 I always gotta see if you post fr*

[@Diff]

Appreciate that (:

[@Tedforsure]

@Diff *hey man just keep that Scorpion gameplay coming because it might just be me but I respect everyone who plays bottom tier characters because in reality they take WAY more skill then most characters*

[@emi-gtvofficial]

Finally yall seeing that Havik is STRUGGLING more than everyone else. Even sub & scorpion. Making it to Elder with Havik requires double or triple the work that other characters don't have to do because of the tools they have that Havik lacks.

[@ogdudu6872]

Glad you’re back man 🎉

[@Diff]

Thank you (:

[@DayyzCrazy]

Glad to see uu back bro!💜💯💪🏾

[@u.s.d4788]

Sub has slow unsafe overhead,gaps, shitty damage, poor combo conversion,his standing 21, jumping 12 scale his damage even further, he's a high risk character, has the most bad match ups,shitty slow projectile, his combos whiff easily especially in the corner The people that claim he's good don't even play him and those that do don't have the guts to choose him in a komp to bail them out when they are losing.

[@billyford4836]

Agreeeeed 😤🤝

[@Radi0Racc00n]

Ong I got 600 hours on sub zero alone and those hours make me wanna die

[@Primitive01]

@@Radi0Racc00nYou choose to play him.

[@HandsomeStepBro]

His overhead is safe with Kham, Dmg is good with Kham, combo conversion with Kham is amazing, He is low risk with Kham, he can ice clone and zone almost every character in the game and he has the longest down 1 in the game. If you think Sub is bad, play Kham with him. If you still think he is bad. That's a you problem

[@Radi0Racc00n]

@@HandsomeStepBro I have over 600 hours on the character alone I can confirm he is dogshit he has the worst matchups and don’t even say well “Oh he has khameel so that makes him good” because it is still high risk every special move is still unsafe you can make it safe with fan lift but you can hit someone right before fan life and stop them also you are acting like sub is good as a stand alone character when he is not and only having 1 kameo that makes him playable is not enough

[@Nullcoil]

As a Baraka main, it is so damn aggravating when I pop off and put someone in a corner, only for them to get out of that corner and spend the ENTIRE GAME holding Back and Up, just running away. But I'm a Baraka. All the moves that covers a lot of ground are unsafe, and the projectile can be ducked.

[@KindaHotSoup]

The legend returns!

[@Somedudee]

sub is decent but his weakness are very apparent when fighting kung lao, tanya and lui kang. People just don’t know their options.

[@Zimx02]

Tanya, yes. Kung Lao and Liu Kang, nah.

[@GeniusInventor-dj5zc]

Sub zero has a winning matchup against lao imo his dive kick is better than lao’s

[@fatbagofchips]

@@GeniusInventor-dj5zcLaos is more faster and it is plus when it misses and Laos usually miss on purpose

[@GeniusInventor-dj5zc]

@@fatbagofchips Lao’s is way more punishable and harder to hit confirm into full combo, sub zeros dive kick doesn’t need meter to full combo and it beats Laos on trade almost every time

[@fatbagofchips]

@@GeniusInventor-dj5zc Lao’s is way more harder to punish and up block because it’s so fast and the knock back it does, why would you wanna trade between dive kicks? I haven’t punished a lao dive kicked in a long time because it’s so hard to punish

[@azeplays3563]

Shao being that low is giving me mk11 ptsd. I mained him day 1 in that game and stuck with him all the way through to mk1 even though he was literally bottom 1 at mk11's launch. Honestly, my only two complaints I have is that his down 1 is too stubby and his stand 2 has a weird hitbox when it comes to anti-airs. I've clipped people's feet with stand 2 and they don't get hit which is pretty annoying. But honestly my biggest issue is that people can just mash on you. His fastest buttons are high, his fastest poke has abysmal range, and his other mids, lows, and overheads are too slow to beat people mashing. Not to mention his armor goes over people who are mashing pokes and gives them full combo punishes. I think a range buff on down 1 would go a very long way. Also just wanted to note that the highest his health can go is 1200, not 1250

[@TORREYTHESTARCITYWARRIOR]

Yay welcome back friend Diff😮

[@mahdihenchiri5624]

We re missing the ROAD TO RANK 1 broo , when we seeing more ?

[@trollwithabishai211]

Yeah I started playing nitara this season. There are certainly some matchups that are hard. Anyone that can restrict your movement makes the match up hard cause now to close the distance you got some slow and not too safe normals and it's hard to keep some pressure going

[@coreypendergrass5355]

Yo Diff glad you're back! I saw the TrueUnderDawg video! What was up with your camera? Let's Go!!!!!!! 🎮👊🏻🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻

[@Diff]

My computer has been GIVING ME A HEADACHE. Gotta get it repaired

[@coreypendergrass5355]

@@Diff Hell Yeah if it ain't one thing it's another! Lol

[@maxfoell6654]

I missed you I checked everyday and now your back 😅

[@Diff]

I appreciate that😁 WE BACK

[@trxpryan6149]

Someone outsmarted my ermac the other day just by walking backwards when I activated the soul shield thing

[@Cristerfer9000]

Hey Diff love the videos brother please post more 😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🏼 I wanna see scorpion cook people

[@hunterburdick9823]

I think the need to the ermac meter for health move is just once it activates it starts draining meter for example if you activate it with 1 bar it just won’t last that long and if ur willing to use 3 bars then that’s up to you but I think it’s dumb it only drains if your hit

[@WeWeWeRaI]

Hi @diff can you do a tier list "easy to hard" fighter? It would help a lot of players

[@user-vz4jm9yy6d]

7:22 Let's not forget that high, lows will break your fuzzy guard so it's scary to fuzzy her low/overhead as well....

[@KyroMadeIt]

DIFFFFF. Missed yah brother

[@CaptainProx]

What Rain really needs is for one of his projectiles to be faster and for his water bubble to be less garbage Those two things give him some extremely polarizing matchups against the likes of Reiko, Shang, Quan chi, and Peacemaker

[@NaveRellim34]

I love Sindel. She was main in mk11 and is my main in this game, and when she inevitably gets nerfed, she will still be my main. Baraka and Shang Tsung are the others I will stick with no matter what

[@harveysidhu7030]

For me, the main issue with Shang is that Young Form offers very little except decent projectiles and his overhead but you want remain in Old Form for the majority of the match. I think NRS wants people to switch between the two but honestly, he can't really do big combos/damaging in his Young version. The only time you want to be in Young is to chip them out at the end with the zoning. Maybe give his young form something idk.

[@ej1936]

If you can vapor cancel like a madman smoke is top 10 for sure

[@blueberrycracker6607]

In my opinion, Johnny and Ashrah are exactly where the game balance should be for all characters. They are extremely strong at what they do, and are fundamentally very good. Kenshi and Sindel should be Nerfed to their level slightly, and everyone else needs to be buffed up to their level

[@theoneandonly8-bitgamer27]

Diff, have you gotten the scorpion twitch skin?

[@Diff]

Yeah! I’ve just spent too much money on the paid skins to use it right now. In a couple months time I’m gonna rock it

[@theoneandonly8-bitgamer27]

@@Diff ok good to know and I just wanna let you know I’m a huge fan

[@NjMallRat]

Good take on Raiden ⚡ They didn't gut him at all. EX specials should be safe... But that's what the assist is for. Awesome video 🐀

[@nolanyoung9040]

Damn bro comes back to do a tier list while I’ve been waiting to weeks for diff to play Ermac and play some sets this is just sad

[@Diff]

LOL, tomorrow. Honestly, I’ve held off on grinding Ermac cause i think some other creators play him more smoothly at the moment

[@nolanyoung9040]

@@Diff I don’t care diff you explain the characters the best and you’re one of the most interesting mk creators I’d say one I could relate too the tier list was fire just need to see my boy play Ermac

[@Earth-realm]

Thank goddd Underdoggammer was going off of feelings and pride.. THANK YOU for delivering a proper professional Tier list from an actual mk player💜🇫🇯👨🏽‍💻

[@salooms5761]

I do low hat with teleport just to close my distance from the opponent

[@Arxotik]

Oh boy, it's diffin time!

[@QU141.]

video audio is kinda low, like its about 20% lower than the regular videos i watch, been saying this for a few months now, never has been fixed

[@MasonKeller-lv9dx]

Khameleon fixed Sub’s gameplay problem (I would still like to see a reduction in clones recovery)

[@syednaqvi105]

With the new mid ( Scorpion ), The spear does connect.... in practice and online. It will connect on the second hit

[@retrohybrid17]

No it won't and he's already made a video showing it not working

[@Pizzazaza]

When is the next road to rank one

[@lamboronald489]

Dude what does it matter that you use the entire kameo with cyrax kenshi? If you summon sento the bar depletes anyway. There are so many kenshi things you dont know and thats why you always put it in top 1

[@korbinlankford4091]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, scorpion NEEDS a standing overhead

[@yomrwhite607]

they need to buff sub zero ice ball start up it takes so long i don't think i've landed it once because of how easy it is to block also doesn't combo into strings i know thats what the down 4 back is for but still and the amount of gaps between his main strings are incredibly annoying

[@Radi0Racc00n]

I’ve hit it online hella you just have to mix them up with Lao or khameel but it fs needs a buff asap

[@yomrwhite607]

@@Radi0Racc00n but sub zero shouldn't have to play with one or two specific kameos to be viable and you could say the same for scorpion theres no room to experiment because once you go away from lao or khamleon you're fucked

[@ITS2G]

Kameo Tier list soon👀?

[@maccheese9480]

23:18 Reptiles launching string is NOT safe on block. You cannot duck it and its -14

[@omegahorizon82]

Shang needs individual inputs to morph into all characters. Just like MK2.

[@jalenciaga1589]

I main khameleon and all you have to do is stand block. There is no low, only an overhead. I love her but it’s not that hard to go against her.

[@JoaoVictor-jq2ip]

I believe the best buff for li mei is to her EX projectile. It should be mid and should destroy other projectiles (only when she uses meter, of course), like liu kang's projectile. Her zoning is basically useless since you can always duck. She always has to get in with those T-rex arms.

[@darellreyes6748]

Yo diff, i need my daily dose of your scorpion gameplays. Do something 😕

[@caidenhanson4440]

Smoke actually had no mid starters I looked and was surprised to find that out because I was getting somewhat irritated with the constant poking also with what I’m seeing with sub the only thing I find that would need a damage increase is his mystic vapors that is what kills the damage and without that you need to be a little bit more risky to get the high damage so I feel if mystic vapors scaling was a little less extreme then it would be good for sub

[@mkminor3398]

You could low crush pokes with the overhead and f4 is a good button

[@twirlycomet389]

I rly never will understand how kenshi is always in S realistically the only strong tool he has is sento and he’s hard to pull off most of the time if you use a rush down character or a zoner which is like half the cast

[@kieranowen5280]

Havik my have plud frames but with the right kameo hd can get 37-40 but this tier list is good

[@dawarmonger]

Lowkey I have no idea what you’re saying because I just play the game 2 hours a week and just watch you for “Ranked” vids. 💯 good shit tho

[@jaredjuanes5754]

This is the second video where you said "expect a lot of videos soon and I’ll be back with another video tomorrow"?????

[@jaredjuanes5754]

It’s been a week

[@gogoof1791]

I agree with most of this list but theres a few things I would change Scorpion is not a character that is needing buffs currently, he’s winning tournaments and has won and place better that characters such as geras and reptile. Scorpion mains have been wanting a mid mid string since release and now they got its now “we can’t combo off of it” the fact you got a mid mid string makes it safe to use your mid high string as people will just start trying to block the full string rather than ducking it Sub zero honestly just needs a damage buff as you said but the main issue with sub zero players is that they try to play aggressive when his kit is designed for a defensive style of play where you try to bait your opponent into poking when they shouldn’t, never mind that sub has vapors and a ice ball that can help keep distance plus an ice clone and all he really needs is a very slight damage buff Reptile I feel is still bottom 6 his buffs while nice did nothing to help him with his weaknesses, he has no mixups they should’ve given his back 3, 1 string a low overhead mixup so that you aren’t running just the same 3,4 kameos and his projectile has a incredibly slow start up Kung lao is top 12 ish maybe higher, he has a safe armor launcher that goes into an full combo which makes pressuring him frustrating, he has two different projectiles, and a dive kick that is plus on miss allowing him to have the advantage moving in, that’s not even considering too his low overhead mix up that’s fast and is safe on block. The only other changes I would have is moving reptile down to struggle, moving mileena, shoa, sub, and scorpion into average/struggle tier, and moving Shang down a tier

[@anarhia7777]

Finnaly Reiko claim his rightful place

[@kalebsmith4092]

I feel like diff has a vendetta against kenshi. I haven’t seen a single kenshi main win a big tournaments. They make top 8 but almost never win. I think sindel is tougher to deal with because at any point she can decide to just zone you out as well.

[@Diff]

It’s because he can be counter picked in tournament. You can’t counter pick in ranked which makes him so strong. Blind entry AND you can’t swap main character

[@nurbenji1]

When u gonna be in rips arena!?

[@rondadon351]

Idk if it’s me but I’m not satisfied with mk1 all characters feel incomplete because of kameo and how it’s a necessity

[@edricjordan7093]

What's Riekos' "good top two poke"?

[@Hagh12375]

I play him, I guess he means his d4.

[@rcPYROone]

Quan chi is overlooked

[@Freekell6]

Shao not struggling

[@jettdownes6125]

He’s so easy to neutral duck because he doesn’t have a mid

[@Freekell6]

Damn but him with lao 🫡

[@Gustavo_Gore]

As a Tanya main I’m glad she’s so high up 😈 💛but I think rain beats her. His new mix ups are INSANE. I’m literally like this the entire time cause idk what they’re gonna do 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@LavishEXCEL]

I don’t think ermac is CRAZY he can’t really poke out of pressure or have fast enough moves to compete with the top tiers

[@MatheusHenrique-dz4wt]

He have cancels, its all he needs to have the best pressure in the game.

[@user-vn2hk8nu8i]

1min 0 views he has made a comeback

[@yeetuspizza634]

47 seconds no views But it's diffin time! 🔥

[@Fromtfacingbabychick]

Diff you’ll be surprised how many people don’t expect to get destroyed by Baraka we brake about 80% of armors weather is spamming B or back A all of them get broken hard todo a nice combo but I made it to Demi god all season just using Baraka and Sektor 😅

[@James_Kosmo]

why is Shang on struggle?

[@iosefamanumaleuna6421]

nitara is op if played correctly

[@charlesthompson5645]

they are waiting to buff havik for the dlc campaign.

[@TheJoker-my2xz]

Bro, no way is Johnny that high even now. Man is super strong but he's been nerfed enough that he's fine. Mileena and Shao need to be higher too

[@blueberrycracker6607]

33:41 THANK YOU

[@homamdinpanah2891]

Bro said you can learn characters from where ?

[@Fromtfacingbabychick]

Yeah I mean that may and scorpion duo is deadly but nothing to my barka

[@doublelizard767]

Guess im a havik main now

[@Ru060Certified]

Sets?

[@dawsforfun6456]

When I fight Kung Lao...I know I'm going to win.

[@pickledpencil54]

Glad everyone can agree havik is trash (as a havik main)

[@maccheese9480]

The tierlist is ALMOST perfect, but the struggle/poop tier is totally off. Only characters struggling rn is scorpion, shang, and havik. All the others in these low categories should be in average or even great

[@turtleboss9848]

I’d have an easier time with Johnny players if I could anti air that j3 lol

[@HandsomeStepBro]

Mileena, Kung Lao, Nitara, Sub and Scorp being on bottom 6 is the most delusional shit fr

[@Diff]

I mean, top 100 ranked leaderboards and tournament entries prove it to be accurate so. Unless your bar is a different metric, it’s pretty accurate.

[@HandsomeStepBro]

@@Diff I mean listen to any pro player and they will say you're wrong. Every pro player puts kung lao in top 5 or top 10 rn but somehow he's your bottom 5. Makes no sense. Might be a skill issue tho, maybe you rate based on your inexperience with these characters being played at the highest level

[@HandsomeStepBro]

@@Diff And by that logic smoke shouldn't be in A tier because he shows up the least out of any character. And Ermac should be number 1 because he shows up far more than any other character on the roster.

[@dorienhamilton7883]

Shao does not struggle lmao maybe against a zoner but overall he’s great

[@skywalkerofficial4461]

This is the best breakdown of characters in a tier list I’ve ever seen

[@UKN222]

I had to quit this video when this guy did put Kung Lao down. The character is literally strong asf

[@iamb0nk3rs]

The bots got here first LMAOOO

[@tbgtabias]

no shit, they're bots

[@claystedman6923]

No matter what tier list you look at nowadays, we can all agree that Havik is at most bottom 2. He desperately needs buffs at this point.

[@abyss3125]

When are you gonna play the game again😭

[@DBearIt]

Wait what’s the sub drama???

[@icj1mg]

Why do they opress havik?

[@dkmc6434]

I like that people think havik is trash lol

[@BaJastro]

Is he not?

[@dkmc6434]

@@BaJastro absolutely not he has atleast 6 kameos that place him in A tier, his explanation was he's boring but the goal is to win once you learn what he does he's a solid character

[@tbgtabias]

@@dkmc6434Havik is trash.... if you have an anti projectile kameo. havik isn't doing nothing...

[@dkmc6434]

@@tbgtabias ok if you think so lol

[@BaJastro]

@@dkmc6434 as a havik main what he said is entirely true

[@Benom_plays]

This is a xbox tier list if ive ever seen one

[@dawsforfun6456]

Liu Kang isn't in destroy? Best damage, zoning, quickest hits. I hate fighting him so so much.

[@Diff]

I’m inbetween, cause he’s fairly honest. Strike throw will always be tough cause at the end of the day connection helps when rapidly tapping the block button

[@ikariajk6609]

Wait I thought this season was season 5 not 4

[@DorkLord69]

Oh my God I hate when ppl who don't know how to play Nitara try to tell other ppl how good she is. I guarantee you didn't "learn her". Slow buttons? I bet you've never even seen her literal 50/50 in the air

[@saudmubarak1542]

We need to start a protest until they nerf johhny to oblivion, its getting old already.

[@ironyobwoc]

this game really needs to buff most of the kameo roster, there are so many obviously great kameos that offer so much utility but then there is kameos like frost and sonya who dont see much play because they dont have very little use or other kameos just do what they do but better.

[@CerealLover8]

sub-zero my beloved

[@ZayTech91]

Ironically I feel like the game at its current state is more balanced than MK11 ever was. There is nothing in MK1 that is more frustrating to me than gas blast Kabal 🗿

[@curthastings2894]

Not even mk11 that's mk9 your thinking of where Kabal spam jumped gas blasts entire games. In mk11 custom moves he has a gas blast type move but nobody ever used it.

[@ZayTech91]

You right I meant air gas from MK11 if that game had unblock Kabal would not be broken

[@ricey3952]

Wow, look at how Raiden has fallen lmao. I take a break from this game and he has fallen off a bit. Tekken has just been too much fun.

[@LampRamp]

I personally disagree about Lao's placement, but it’s alright. Not gonna whine.