Digging up Anne Boleyn: A Bone of Contention?!

[@HistoryRoadshow]

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[@booknerdlover3675]

Anne Boleyn has always fascinated me. Thank you for this!

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you watching 😊

[@yuriitoh7682]

Anne Boleyn was already doomed the moment Henry set his eyes 👀 on her. She live in a time where you cannot say no to the king even though she did resist his advances she still end up with no choice

[@HistoryRoadshow]

He chased her for 6 years only to remove her completely within 3! Thanks Yuri 😊

[@TheKingsofFrance]

What an amazing episode... there is so much to be said (and left unsaid) about the trial and execution of Anne Boleyn. Thank you for piecing together the events for us in such a beautiful way.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

It's quite a one sided story in terms of documentation, but I think we all know it was a set up! Thanks as always 😊

[@peachymeechie1844]

This is very well done. I got soooooo much more information that I'd never heard before about the burials at St. Peter Ad Vincula! I've only heard the stories of how they counted her bones and then they just assumed because the skeleton had a "lyttle" neck that it had to be Anne. But I never knew someone was buried there with her in the in the 1700's! Thank you for all the new information, and I hope one day they will get to study the area in the future. I'd love for them to definitively say they found her bones and do a facial reconstruction on her. She's one that so many would love to know what her true face looked like. I highly doubt that it will ever happen, but she'll still always be one of the world's favorite Queens. Thanks again for this. You did an awesome job!!

[@HistoryRoadshow]

I think a facial reconstruction of the skulls is the only way we'll have an idea as to who and what these people looked like. Unfortunately the present queen won't allow any disinterment. Thanks Michelle 😊

[@flipsy9187]

I think a facial reconstruction from her skull would be AMAZING. History says there's no true portraits of Anne in existence. I would love to know what she looked like.

[@janetpugliesi3203]

You did her a great homage with your video. It was a thoughtful look at the inner workings of the politics of that time that lead to her downfall..poor Ann in a no win situation.....

[@HistoryRoadshow]

A tragic tale, yet one that still holds many unanswered questions. Thanks Janet 😊

[@funnytime13]

Thanks again Jon! You've done it again, putting the glory back into history..Cheryl in Jacksonville

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Glad you enjoyed it Cheryl, thank you 😊

[@Anita-rq9ev]

Thank you for this in-depth video. Very tragic what happened to her and those men involved 😑. Take care

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Much appreciated Anita, thank you 😊

[@reniasva]

I really love the animation and the pace of the narration. It's so pleasant to watch this.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

I think the images help tell the story in a way that's different and quite unique. Thanks 😊

[@Shane-Flanagan]

@@HistoryRoadshow Agreed 💯

[@stacegageTWDfan]

Another great Tudor monarch video!! Thank you!!

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Glad you like them Stacey, thanks for watching 😊

[@Shane-Flanagan]

Thanks for this Jon 👍👏🙏 Appreciate all the work you put into this video to tell the story. Can never get enough of Anne Boleyn. The location of her final resting place is certainly a very interesting and thought provoking topic. I was impressed with how much you managed to cover in a short pace of time. It's doubtful Anne's body was removed without detection so I do hope it stayed where it was. For a long time I had hoped Anne's remains would be reburied at Westminster Abbey near her daughter Elizabeth but now I think it's probably best she remains at the Tower of London as she is part of it's history and also the fact that the chapel of St Peter ad Vincula is quite a peaceful place despite it's bloody past compared with the noisy Westminster Abbey. If it wasn't for Queen Victoria, we may not have a final resting place to visit it at all. It was good of her and Victorians for being so respectful of history and those who came before them. 👸⚔️🌹

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Just seen this Shane! It's a very sensitive subject and no one really knows who is who. I think assumption can be a bad thing. Maybe one day we'll find out. 😊

[@samanthafordyce5795]

Henry forced an annulment of his marriage to Anne before he executed her for adultery. No one ever seems to pick up on the fact that, if his marriage to Anne had been null from the beginning (which is what annulment means), then, by definition, she could not have been adulterous.

[@ShallowApple22]

I have been with your channel from the beginning and I honestly love the direction in which it has gone I throughly enjoy the added edits it gives a new interpretation and exciting look. So Thank you Jon smashed it as always

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thank you so much Miss, much appreciated and I'm thankful of your ongoing support. Have a lovely weekend 😊

[@winfredstacy5843]

I've said before, that Anne was a pawn in men's games. Did she fool around? No one can say definitively. In all of my reading I have noticed that many believe her crimes and others, not. I believe that given Henry's overall behavior/paranoia that is seen in his heirs as well. He believed the gossip and vitriol aimed at her. Had she given him a male, she would never had been killed.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

The problem I found when researching the video, is that it gives little in the way of answers to our most telling questions. It does however leave much open to interpretation. Thanks Winfred 😊

[@TheConman761]

She wasn’t a pawn. Her father and family didn’t pimp her out. It was actually the opposite. Her father didn’t want the match in the beginning as mistresses normally didn’t marry high once the king was done with them. Also the duke of Norfolk didn’t like Anne.

[@THINKincessantly]

That was very well done, really enjoyed listening....its sad and a shame that so many graves of remarkable people of our history are lost...

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Much appreciated, thank you 😊

[@snufkinhollow318]

It's amazing that you got so much of the really important points and information into just over 17 minutes but the video didn't seem rushed or lacking in any way. What I really appreciated is that you covered many of the possibilities but emphasised that whilst you tend to get very strong opinions now stated as fact in the pro-/anti-Anne and pro-/anti-Cromwell camps, the Tudors were notorious for rewriting history and we may well never know the full story here. My personal opinion is that Anne Boleyn was not guilty of the charges brought against her in court but that she inadvertently allowed Henry and his ministers the opportunity to make these charges stick by failing to moderate her intelligence, quick (often sharp) wit and, perhaps, her flirtatiousness once she became queen - especially after Katherine of Aragon's death when Henry no longer had 'something to prove' by continuing with the marriage. I do not believe that these characteristics are negative traits per se but they were not considered 'proper' for a woman, or a queen, at the time - despite being the very thing that seems to have attracted Henry to her in the first place. I think the strength of her commitment to religious reform is debatable but it is perhaps rather more clear that Henry VIII was never fully committed to the full-scale church reforms being demanded by radical Protestants at the time. Yes, he liked being head of the Church of England, and the revenue that came from dissolving the monastic houses, but he wasn't a radical by any means and I think that once his marriage to Anne began to go awry - and she failed to give him a son - his relatively lukewarm attitude to reform became a case of very cold feet. As regards Cromwell's involvement, I feel that whether or not his relationship with Anne and the wider Boleyn family had soured by the time that Henry began to actively seek to end the marriage, he was quite literally in a life or death situation and had to choose between discarding Anne or staying on the right side of the king. Of course, he had a choice and could have chosen to make a stand against the court machinations designed to bring down Anne but I think he saw himself as a survivor rather than a martyr. As it happened, he really only delayed his perhaps inevitable downfall and although I'm not excusing the choices he made, there is an argument that he may well have tempered some of the king's vindictiveness, albeit for reasons that were hardly altruistic. Indeed, having researched a great number of sources regarding the charges brought against Anne, there is some suggestion that the king variously wanted to level charges of witchcraft - i.e. that Anne had seduced him with spells - and that he also wanted to raise the issue of Anne's purported betrothal to Henry Percy and his own relationship with her sister Mary. But this became rather dangerous ground because if there was any suggestion that the marriage was invalid in the first place, then she couldn't have been guilty of adultery and there is still some argument about whether Thomas Cranmer declaring the marriage null and void a few days after Anne's execution was legitimate. Sadly, I think anyone who displeased Henry VIII would be at best discarded and at worst pay with their lives and whilst it is useful to look back on his behaviour through the lens of modern medicine and psychology to some degree - i.e. to consider that his personality may have changed due to a brain injury and/or other medical issues - he was essentially a tyrant in a time when tyrants - and sometimes those who facilitated and enabled them - prospered.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thank you Snufkin, I'm really pleased you enjoyed the content. Interesting interpretation of the events by the way! 😊

[@snufkinhollow318]

@@HistoryRoadshow Thank you for replying and for saying it was interesting. Anne Boleyn is someone from history that I find fascinating but it wasn't until I posted by comment and saw the length on the screen that I realised I had got a bit carried away! I've subscribed to your channel and am currently taking in more of your work - I will try not to write essays in the comments in the future but I can't always help myself when I'm so engaged with the subject matter. Possibly your fault then for making such engaging content! ;)

[@Shane-Flanagan]

@@snufkinhollow318 If you wish to write long thoughtful comments, go for it! Your passion, knowledge and enthusiam really shows.

[@snufkinhollow318]

@@Shane-Flanagan Thank you.

[@tracymcardle1236]

I have just found your videos they are great, Anne is my favourite person in history, she was murdered by Henry like so many people he was a monster😥😥

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thank you Tracy, much appreciated 😊

[@November_892]

Loved this! Thank you

[@HistoryRoadshow]

You're so welcome Rianna, thank you 😊

[@maryannbernal]

Thanks for another great informative segment. Keep them coming.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Mary Ann 😊

[@F4fanatic]

Jon, what a great video and appreciate the work you do in presenting this information. We may never know Anne’s full story but she is a character that has intrigued me for a while. It would seem from what I have read that she was a nice person and very witty but alas things just did not go in her favor. I have been to London before but alas only got to drive by the Tower of London and not visited it. I stayed in a flat not too far away from it actually and could see it at night. I hope to visit the Tower on my next visit and pay my respects at Anne’s grave. I would love to see a facial reconstruction from her skull one day, it may yet be possible that her remains could be conclusively identified. I like the theory that her remains are under Lady Rochfords’. Very well done sir as always!

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Much appreciated Jack, thanks for taking the time to comment, have a great week 😊

[@F4fanatic]

@@HistoryRoadshow you are very welcome . Have a great week as well. Keep up the good work. I hope to visit many Tudor sites next time I visit England. I am a Tudor history nerd. :)

[@videoz321able]

I wish DNA testing were approved. Queen Anne along with the others deserve their mysteries solved.

[@eawe]

I do believe, as you mentioned ' mob rule' and 'politics' played a large part of Anne's plight.

[@alisonridout]

Absolutely fantastic Jon ✳️

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Oh Alison you're just saying that! 😃 Thank you as always 😊

[@alisonridout]

@@HistoryRoadshow I'm just glad we visited The Tower in December and went into St Peter Ad Vincula

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Such a small building but full of some of the most famous characters from history!

[@alisonridout]

@@HistoryRoadshow yes hope to return soon

[@michellebruce5092]

Great video of Anne Boleyn of England. I enjoyed it hope to see more soon 😀

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Michelle 😊

[@chrisg.runion2608]

Thank you Jon. You did a good job portraying Queen Anne. She didn't deserve what happened to her but she did create w/Henry, one of the best Queens England ever had. My daughter was named after ElizabethI.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

To be fair Chris it's only half the story, it left me pondering so many questions! Appreciate your viewpoint 😊

[@robertdudley4017]

Superb as always Jon, queen Ann was Innocent of any so called crimes, in many ways she had the last laugh on Henry and cromwell, as for this lady's remains I suppose we will never know if they were found. 👍😊

[@HistoryRoadshow]

The remains are a real mystery, they had ideas as to where the bodies were, but then seemed to lose track. Only a modern day examination will prove once and for all, however it may be some way off! Thanks Robert 😊

[@robertdudley4017]

@@HistoryRoadshow yes I agree Jon 👍😊

[@janedee6488]

Your best video ever. Very moving. Clearly she was innocent.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

You are so kind Jane, thanks for watching 😊

[@alleynealisleem9777]

R.I.P Anne Boleyn!!!🙏🙏

[@chykim1]

Dancing!!! Yes, yes, thank you💞💕

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Kim 😊

[@jumaris28]

Perhaps Henry’s blood was poisoned by false rumors by men in power at the time , and the perfect motive to cowardly end Queen Anne life . Thanks for your videos , love the illustrations along the narrations , Greetings from California 😊😊

[@karenlittle7511]

Brilliant

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Karen 😊

[@onagaali2024]

Henry VIII ended up with the buyer's remorse mentality with Anne Boleyn once she didn't produce a male heir that he desperately longed for. What he liked about her personality while courting her is not what he liked about her as his Queen. Yet I still believe Anne Boleyn was framed and railroaded from the intrigue and gossip of Henry's court which she wasn't popular amongst on the contrary of her predecessor Catherine of Aragon.

[@c.s.7266]

I always wondered why Katherine didn't go back to Aragon after Henry divorced her. At least she would have not been alone. Such a sad and undeserved tragedy

[@HistoryRoadshow]

So many questions and yet sadly we'll never fully understand the why and why nots! Thank you C.S 😊

[@robert9495]

The Tudors tv series peaked my interest in the life Anne Boleyn may God rest her soul for she died a barbaric, brutal and gruesome death at the hands of a narcissistic king. That fall off the horse must've really screwed with his head big time, which reflected later in his behavior towards Ann Boleyn and his treatment of her.

[@raumaanking]

Imagine if Henry the 8 gave both Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard a divorce what do you think would have happened to them and if they were both alive when Edward reign do you think they would be fine and same with both Mary and Elizabeth reign do you they could have been killed later on in life if they were not killed by Henry the 8 love your videos by the way

[@HistoryRoadshow]

I think they could have both lived a full life. It's very difficult to judge as little info survives. Thanks 😊

[@joshlock4627]

Elizabeth’s / Ann’s fingers were long . They could have played quarterback . They would through a tight spiral with those long fingers

[@patriciafenwick5846]

Why was she executed? Because se failed to give him a son. However, a divorce/annulment would not have been acceptable since he had already "divorced". Some other means had to be found. I think I read somewhere a while back that adultery was not considered treason until Tudor times. Check out the French kings Louis X(1314-16) and his brother Philip V (1316-1322) when their wives were found guilty of adultery; they were shut up in nunneries. I don't think either was king at the time of the trials (which I think took place before their father Philip IV died), but both wives could have foisted a bastard in the line of succession, so I guess it was just as serious as Anne's alleged adultery. But thanks for a really interesting video, especially the part about who is buried in the chapel.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

So many unanswered questions regarding this it's impossible to know. Maybe one day a full examination may be allowed to take place. Thanks Patricia 😊

[@marcobagut]

They could reconstruct the face, from the skull…

[@susprime7018]

Very fine.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks SuS 😊

[@lissah68hall92]

Keep in mind NOTHING happened in King Henry VIII's court that he didn't consent to.Btw,enjoyed the speculative myths in the second part.RIP Anne Boleyn

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Lissa, appreciate you watching 😊

[@mariagallian8057]

Divorce a la Henry VIII! Speedy and final.