Digital ICE: The High-Tech Dust Removal Found in Film Scanners

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Technology Connections

Technology Connections

6 жыл бұрын

In this video we explore Digital ICE, an image processing technique involving infrared light, photographic film, and a dash of algorithmic magic.
A particularly good example of Kodachrome and Digital ICE:
www.scanmyphotos.com/blog/wp-c...
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@TheFreaxTux
@TheFreaxTux 4 жыл бұрын
"There are some artifacts here that it didn't completely remove" I see a few other artifacts pretty obvious but unmarked *few seconds later* wait, nvm. that was dust on my screen
@briancox2721
@briancox2721 6 жыл бұрын
Kodak: a company that invented the digital camera TWICE and still went bankrupt. Some companies just aren't meant to survive.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 6 жыл бұрын
I tried two Kodak digital cameras in late 90ies and they were both horrible, much worse than Japanese devices. Fujifilm, Olympus, Yashica and SONY all were orders of magnitude better. Now of course these were very early devices and all had their flaws, but at least they were somewhat usable - both Kodak ones weren't.
@villipend
@villipend 6 жыл бұрын
Kodak exec =>How will selling digital cameras help us sell more film? ;-).
@_BangDroid_
@_BangDroid_ 6 жыл бұрын
Now the Kodak brand is selling cheap USB power banks and really crappy LCD TV's
@martinum4
@martinum4 5 жыл бұрын
The "good" remains of Kodak have transformed into Alaris, the document scanners they offer are pretty nice...
@arvizturotukorfurogep6235
@arvizturotukorfurogep6235 5 жыл бұрын
But Kodak is still around, even if in a hollow existence.
@_BangDroid_
@_BangDroid_ 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! A KZbinr who actually puts the link in the description after saying so. I tip my hat to you, sir. It's the little things.
@WilsonMackle101
@WilsonMackle101 5 жыл бұрын
m'uploader
@gerardcowan155
@gerardcowan155 4 жыл бұрын
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@edensgenesis4171
@edensgenesis4171 4 жыл бұрын
@@gerardcowan155 Too many clickbait copy-pasters who talk about all sorts of things and not a single useful link just bunch of crap links to leech money off you or just a empty box. If you are talking about something, link it so people who want to experience it don't have to dig the internet and find out what the hell this person was talking about.
@Mordecrox
@Mordecrox Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile shorts have "check the description below" when shorts don't have a description by design
@benm8503
@benm8503 6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the level of quality content you produce
@samson5erb312
@samson5erb312 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it
@Peter-pu7bo
@Peter-pu7bo 3 жыл бұрын
And he evolved a lot since than :)
@carlosdelamora4917
@carlosdelamora4917 3 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe it's not butter.
@cavedwellingbear
@cavedwellingbear 2 жыл бұрын
Belieb it
@digl_live
@digl_live 4 жыл бұрын
Almost magic Dust removal Blue Ridge Mountains Shenandoah River
@chikkiboo
@chikkiboo 4 жыл бұрын
every time the algorithm shows me this video i get this song stuck in my head
@Tresquall
@Tresquall 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this. Immediately thought of this.
@erikjohnson9256
@erikjohnson9256 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this wanted to see if anyone else had haha!
@reddcube
@reddcube 6 жыл бұрын
also thanks to Goodwill for the "$6.99" photoscanner.
@blew1t
@blew1t 4 жыл бұрын
nicece
@raydunakin
@raydunakin 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with selling quality equipment at a thrift store is that most of the people who would use such equipment don't shop at thrift stores. Then there's risk factor too -- does it work, and does it have any hidden issues that won't shop up until you're really using it? So the thrift store ends up having to mark things way down just to get rid of it.
@DJ-Sellout
@DJ-Sellout 5 жыл бұрын
As he was showing the before-afters I was like: hey it missed a spot! annd then realized my screen was dirty.
@tf2engineer106
@tf2engineer106 5 жыл бұрын
This is the video that made me realize that my screen was full of fingerprints and that I could barely even see anything dark.
@digitalmagick
@digitalmagick 5 жыл бұрын
"Don't go down the rabbit hole of chasing technical perfection at the expense of exploring your own creativity. If it looks good to you, that's all that matters" - You. I want this on a t-shirt.
@marktubeie07
@marktubeie07 6 жыл бұрын
Your presentation and scripting skills on these videos are just fantastic - _Oh and your dry humor as well!_ A+
@danthewolf1997
@danthewolf1997 6 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. I'm from Rochester, so our Kodak moment of silence has been going for years. My grandfather had a friend who worked at Kodak, so he got free film and free developing. My mom and I have been sorting through THOUSANDS of slides, decades worth. Many of them were ruined by water damage when they were in the care of my aunt. He died when I was very young, so it is really cool to be able to reconstruct his life as he photographed it. We've been viewing them with this crazy slide projector that also has a rear projection screen built in. It uses that same type of carousel tray that you have there. It's the Telex Caramate 4000, I think. I had to figure out how to fix it because the mirrors inside fell off. The mechanism that moves the slides is really interesting, and so is the series of mirrors that put the image on the screen. It would definitely be an interesting video if you can get your hands on one. It's big and fragile, so I'm not sure if it would ship well. Anyway, I love your channel, and it's been a pleasure watching it grow from 15K subscribers to where it is today.
@TheMasonX23
@TheMasonX23 6 жыл бұрын
So I was planning on giving this a thumbs up anyways, but the real talk on not chasing "technical perfection" made me wish I could do more. As a graphics programmer, I've dealt with similar issues, but ultimately settled on a similar approach. Great video as always, I love having you explain somewhat obscure/arcane technical topics like this that give me a better understanding for and deeper appreciation of the technical world around us.
@technopoptart
@technopoptart 6 жыл бұрын
i gave it another thumbs up for ya'
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 5 жыл бұрын
@@technopoptart I wanna help!
@allanrichardson1468
@allanrichardson1468 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the criticism of “tech snobs,” and I’ve seen the same snobbery with audiophiles, videophiles (loved the video “You don’t see in 4K”), wine, cheese, etc. It seems to be human nature that for any product that’s good when you pay one price, better if you pay more, and just a TINY bit better if you pay a LOT more, there will be someone who puts down anyone who cannot or will not pay the difference to get what THEY consider the absolute best.
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 5 жыл бұрын
@@allanrichardson1468 Have you seen the new Payless Shoes spots where they trick fashion bloggers into thinking Payless brands are high end fashion and the bloggers fall for it?
@allanrichardson1468
@allanrichardson1468 5 жыл бұрын
Dargonhuman I probably have but didn’t pay attention to them, being 70 years old with a wife who is already sensible about fashion. But it’s make the point. At some point the only reason for spending more for something is to make others believe we can afford it. And to me, that’s a stupid reason.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect presentation, and perfect "Manual" hoodie to wear for it !!!
@LifeOnHoth
@LifeOnHoth 6 жыл бұрын
"If it looks good to you, that's all that matters." - AMEN to that! :). As a semi-pro musician, I tell people this all the time. Same stuff. People are afraid to express and explore their creativity, becuase they think that their way of doing things are somehow inferior, or will make people think stuff about them. I was in that same hole myself, until one day, I decided to do some stuff a completely new way - I did so, some people thought it was just stupid, not the way to do it etc. That made me happy at that point, because it verified my own thoughts on the matter - that people do things way too many times just because the mass tells them that's the way. I am not very much into photography - I enjoy taking pictures hehe - but that's another thing :P - but I have done some great stuff and had great fun in the process when making music exactly the way I wanted to. Many photography enthusiasts will say that this is cheating, this is this, this is that. don't do that. Same in music. People say exactly the same as musicians, effectively putting a lid on their own and other's creativity :). I enjoy your videos, and you appear to be a likeable person that I would enjoy hanging out with :)
@joaodasilva8008
@joaodasilva8008 6 жыл бұрын
i am a musician too and i agree with you 100%,sometimes as a musician we are playing music that we enjoy playing it and the audience is like ???????, we musicians are always looking for new sounds
@howtoavenge1016
@howtoavenge1016 2 жыл бұрын
if it sounds good, who cares, ya know?
@photolabguy
@photolabguy 6 жыл бұрын
As a former Noritsu field technician (A manufacturer of minilab equipment), the Noritsu film scanners had built in Digital Ice capability. You could ask the lab to process a roll of film, and could burn it to a CD. Fast scanners, and great quality. You still might be able to find a lab with a Noritsu scanner.
@zagaberoo
@zagaberoo 6 жыл бұрын
thedarkroom.com scans their film with a Noritsu device. They don't strip the metadata of the scans, so it's right there in the EXIF metadata!
@erkintek
@erkintek 6 жыл бұрын
hey you should make some videos
@TwoWholeWorms
@TwoWholeWorms 6 жыл бұрын
Snappy Snaps on Wardour Street in London use at least one Noritsu film scanner as well. :) Works really well with Ilford HP5, best of all the analogues.
@DhavalMomaya
@DhavalMomaya 5 жыл бұрын
From southern India here and much of my 35mm scans from the early to mid 2000s were made on noritsus and only a select few would get the Coolpix or DiMage rescan. PS I would love it if Technology Connections could feature drum scanners too.
@arielwollinger
@arielwollinger 6 жыл бұрын
I remember I used Digital ICE on a ArriScan Scanner. The scanner itself cost several hundred thousand dollars back in 2007, and the license to enable realtime Digital ICE cost several thousand dollars ( I think it was around 40K ). This was a scanner used in the motion picture industry. Super high tech at the time and still impressive today.
@arielwollinger
@arielwollinger 6 жыл бұрын
www.nacinc.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/arriscan_catalog_EN.pdf
@jamiekawabata7101
@jamiekawabata7101 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for Applied Science Fiction starting in 1998. It was later bought by Kodak, well after Digital ICE had been on the market several years. Great video!
@StuD44
@StuD44 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, you explain so good, and show everything that you explain. My original language isn't english, so my hearing in english isn't that good, but by repeating your videos, I slowly understand them more and more, due to your explanations being water-clear. Thank you.
@Stjaernljus
@Stjaernljus 6 жыл бұрын
Zoom! Enhance!
@cruxmind
@cruxmind 6 жыл бұрын
SandyStarchild great choice of pfp to compliment the comment
@mrkitty777
@mrkitty777 4 жыл бұрын
On TV they make 1 spot a zoomable image, people really think those TV show technology is real.
@lordofthecats6397
@lordofthecats6397 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrkitty777 Well it's getting slightly closer to reality with AI upscaling. Check out Waifu2x. Some phones also use non-AI upscaling by taking multiple pictures at once and combining them. But yeah, like most forms of technology in movies, it's very inaccurate (hacking for instance.)
@audioguitarman
@audioguitarman 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a sound guy, and while I do tend to recommend avoiding certain things (really not a fan of USB mics), we had a saying where I learned: if it sounds good, it is good. I can totally appreciate your stance on over the top tech heads!
@WalnutSpice
@WalnutSpice 4 жыл бұрын
I found an Atari ST 1040 FM at Goodwill for $10, they thought it was just an old keyboard
@marcandreservant8824
@marcandreservant8824 5 жыл бұрын
I have an OLED phone, and those dust particles look absolutely real on my screen. If you switched between the two images any slower, I would have been wiping my screen constantly.
@The_Blog
@The_Blog 6 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this technology. There is basicly no loss in image quality at all. I am really amazed!
@yarloo
@yarloo 6 жыл бұрын
I have a Epson V330 Photo. Really reliable and also works really fucking well-when scanning drawings, that's what i use it for nowadays anyways. Waiting times, like he said, are a bitch but it's a small thing. It still works with film too.
@cruxmind
@cruxmind 6 жыл бұрын
Image repair would be counter intuitive if it lost quality when repairing said quality.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 6 жыл бұрын
There is a slight overall blurriness introduced by the correction algorithm, which is barely noticeable though present, and as he said works best on simple photos with lots of uniform areas. When there are just a few imperfections, I usually do it manually with the "dodge" tool, basically clone the surrounding area with healthy dose of blurring ;)
@Dargonhuman
@Dargonhuman 5 жыл бұрын
@@yarloo Oh, thank you for that! I was just sitting here wondering if this would work for scanning hand drawn images or if it only works for film. I do amateur comics as a hobby but when I scan the drawings, it's a bitch of a time cleaning up the random dirt and hair artifacts, especially with intricately detailed illustrations, but knowing this works, it's something I can look at a little closer to see if it works for me.
@yarloo
@yarloo 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to be of help my friend. Try washing your hands often when working too, and go over it with a eraser from time to time. just remember to keep the eraser clean too, a little grease can ruin everything. H pencils are good to start with since they smudge less. Good fuckin luck.
@grandetaco4416
@grandetaco4416 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your thrift store scanner find! I one time asked my wife to pick me up an old keyboard so that I could take it apart for a project. She doesn't know much about computer hardware and she came back with two $200 gaming keyboards that she picked up for about $5 a piece. Needless to say neither of them ended up in pieces and both are now sitting on my table, one of which I am typing this message. We both have looked since and haven't be able to replicate her luck.
@JakeTheBear1
@JakeTheBear1 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, just want you to know. I started dabbling film photography because of you, it was so much fun. I hope you do more film photography related stuff on the future, I hope you read this. Cheers.
@ChrisMorry
@ChrisMorry 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic lesson for an old feller like me to understand perfectly. Very impressed with the professional quality of this lesson.
@sicklebrick
@sicklebrick 6 жыл бұрын
I love how you sit down and take the time to explain things in detail. Really appreciated, thanks!
@KanalFrump
@KanalFrump 6 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation. And clever technology. In retrospect it would have been very forward-looking if the scanner software permitted export in a digital negative 4-channel format with the IR dust mask and original un-corrected color channels provided separately from the automatically enhanced 3-channel image. That would facilitate very high fidelity manual photoshop cleanup work in post.
@AlessioSangalli
@AlessioSangalli 6 жыл бұрын
Kanal Frump I believe third party software like vuescan allowed to do that.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 5 жыл бұрын
I suppose technically you can do that by doing a scan with Digital ICE and one without, and then combining them with "difference" in Photoshop. That should give you just the dust/scratches pass. But that adds even more scan time.
@ionstorm66
@ionstorm66 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on how the scanner works, it should be possible to add a switch to change the white leds for the IR one on a normal scan. Then take a BW scan and you could get the IR scan. Though I wonder if the "click" is it moving an ir filter off the sensor.
@Waccoon
@Waccoon 6 жыл бұрын
I spent a few years working in a photography store. My boss told me he was going to buy some new flatbed scanners with ICE built-in. It took me a while to convince him otherwise, since ICE only works with film, not prints (and we already had our Noritsu minilab for scanning film). The marketing material for ICE didn't always make it clear that it only worked on film, not... everything. ICE was neat, but looking back, it's remarkable how badly a lot of our photography equipment worked and how incredibly poor it was also marketed. I hated our Kodak DLS minilab software with a passion, and as dumb as it sounds, there was once a product being marketed under the name, "Profitmaker". No wonder all these companies went out of business! 8)
@TeagueChrystie
@TeagueChrystie 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're the best. These are great, fascinating stuff, thanks for makin' it.
@lourias
@lourias 4 жыл бұрын
I love you videos. I am not a photographer, other than "pointing and shooting" with my cellphone. Your videos are always informative, with enough video for "visual learners", and always enough auditory queues for the auditory learners. Your voice is pleasant, with appropriate enunciation and fixations in tone. Thank you for being AWESOME at what you do.
@nocusr
@nocusr 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the same scanner, new, for many hundreds of dollars about 6 years ago, primarily to scan my old negatives. Yes, ICE works wonders, and your explanation is 100% better than what's presented in the instruction manual. Great job!
@aa664_
@aa664_ 5 жыл бұрын
Love your intro. And attitude towards getting involved with photography; you’re right, just have fun!
@procactus9109
@procactus9109 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, 2 videos in a row where you answer a long time curiosity of mine. You are going to be a full on Guru in 20 years.
@TheWutangclan1995
@TheWutangclan1995 4 жыл бұрын
The most realistic photographer. I’ve ever encountered on KZbin. It’s easy to get caught up on what’s the best equipment without thinking about personal needs.
@AbeDillon
@AbeDillon 6 жыл бұрын
You put a ton of love into your videos and it shows! They are so good! Thank you!
@FarginBastiges
@FarginBastiges 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining Digital ICE. I also have a V600 and it worked wonders restoring my grandfather's slides.
@gamophyte
@gamophyte 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so very good man. Lots of information and it doesn't get tired when you throw your personality in there. Interesting subjects that most overlook.
@soulofjacobeh
@soulofjacobeh 4 жыл бұрын
Oh holy crap. The picture of the Disney marching band, I think I see my step-dad on Trombone there. I joked to myself "I wonder if he's in there" and went back and looked. Man he's worked with them forever.
@richwood2741
@richwood2741 4 жыл бұрын
I did learn a lot but the thing i learned the most is that i really cant tell the difference in most of those pictures until you pointed them out. I had to look really hard multiple times at the last pic to even see one thing change. Great video.
@RobertVolmer
@RobertVolmer 6 жыл бұрын
"If it looks good to you, that's all that matters."
@analogbug16
@analogbug16 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who shoots a lot of film I’ve never quite understood how it works but that’s a great explanation. I definitely agree with you on slides there’s something magical about holding that little direct representation of what was in front of my camera.
@michaelcoll433
@michaelcoll433 3 жыл бұрын
While an older video and I just came across it, it's still relevant today. I've been going through the experimentation process my myself to scan in my older stuff. Things to consider .. thanks!
@mantaskatilauskas1122
@mantaskatilauskas1122 3 жыл бұрын
2021 anyone? He brings such good quality!! I like that you shot the video by the table! Keep it up!
6 жыл бұрын
Why this channel doesn't have a million subscribers already?! I've started playing this video with some preconceptions that I would not like it, because i don't really care about analog photography, and I was entertained through the whole thing. Hats off, really.
@OlivierSuire
@OlivierSuire 4 жыл бұрын
You make the Tech + Nostalgia cocktail to perfection !
@Mega4ort
@Mega4ort 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the effort, detail and content clarity in your videos. I've learned so much since subscribing!
@maggie1711
@maggie1711 3 жыл бұрын
I have worked in photo labs/photo studios for years and have always been lucky to be able to use these scanners. They make scanning and editing not just film, but also prints soooo much easier. We sometimes still have to pull the images up on Photoshop and manually remove the dust but it does save a lot of time and it does get rid of quite a bit of the pesky little dusts that just take forever to remove.
@bucyrus5000
@bucyrus5000 5 жыл бұрын
I've been thoroughly enjoying this channel. I really can't recommend it enough.
@johnnyjames7139
@johnnyjames7139 6 жыл бұрын
I find all of your posts to be fascinating as well as a major boost to my jaded memory.
@pftyea
@pftyea 6 жыл бұрын
Where have you been all my life?
@ParticularCoconut
@ParticularCoconut 5 жыл бұрын
I have eaten in that train at Mt Ranier on my 2 day trip to Seattle a long while ago. They had the best milkshake I've ever had made from wild blackberries from the area. Thanks for reminding me of the memory randomly, and for the explainer video as well.
@shangyien
@shangyien 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very clear explanation of how ICE works. You've convinced me there is a reason to upgrade from my Illumitran and digital camera.
@gianlusc
@gianlusc 6 жыл бұрын
I also love slides for the reasons you mentioned and I still shoot them. Very interesting video.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 5 жыл бұрын
Best advice on photography and experts ever!!! That F1 really, really, really, reminds me of my old Pentax Program-A.
@SuperCookieGaming_
@SuperCookieGaming_ 5 жыл бұрын
this is the kind of stuff i love. finding a away around a problem by using a accidental feature of the source material.
@oldvideopro
@oldvideopro 6 жыл бұрын
I never knew I was interested in that until I watched this! :-) Another well made, interesting video - well done.
@FoolAhead
@FoolAhead 6 жыл бұрын
That's amazing. Infrared light in general, at the moment I experiment with IR photography, having the lowpass filter of a compact camera replaced by the end part of a developed negative. The results look...interesting
@muskiet8687
@muskiet8687 2 жыл бұрын
The bit about amateurs and photography is so true. "Professionals" love to bombard people with details that matter to them while people new to photography are better off just playing around in their own pace and discovering what they want on their own. When someone looks at his/her pictures and then asks "how can I make this look better", THAT's when suggesting things like manual settings, RAW file format, lighting techniques etc is helpful. Instead of losing interest because of the overwhelming information, people learn one step at a time and enjoy mastering those steps a lot more.
@Quesbe
@Quesbe 10 ай бұрын
I think it was the very first Technology Connection video I ever watched. Back then, I was far from being fluent in English, I was not familiar at all with film photography, and so nothing stayed in my brain... Except for that part about phone camera being able to detect near-infrared! Anyway, it's been great rewatching this video!
@n5sdm
@n5sdm 4 жыл бұрын
As a photographer, thank you. This was great.
@benandchrisdivers8512
@benandchrisdivers8512 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it and learnt about yet another technology I never knew existed! All the best.
@VicTheVicar
@VicTheVicar 5 жыл бұрын
No way! I was starting to look at your LaserDisc videos while starting to scan my negatives, and I've always wondered how the ICE-function on my V600 works. I've never used it, mostly because it takes time and I'm a purist. I only scan black and white film, so it's good to know that it doesn't matter. Keep up the good work, Alex!
Жыл бұрын
It´s the first time I see one of your older videos. Great content, as always.
@MarioVerkerk
@MarioVerkerk 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, didn't know about the IR pass. I have the same scanner and I never even thought of using that feature. Thanks man.
@VyvienneEaux
@VyvienneEaux 4 жыл бұрын
Your channel makes me excited to wake up each day!
@OleVanDole
@OleVanDole 6 жыл бұрын
i have the great pleasure of digitizing the family archives, so many goodies! Kodachrome from the 50s, 60s and lots of 35mm strips from then to now. It will take years. ICE is the best thing ever in my opinion, absolutely love it to bits.
@RosePhoto1
@RosePhoto1 6 жыл бұрын
Just to give you some feedback... you rock at making these videos! Well researched and interesting from start to finish. I'm hooked.
@ringoklassen
@ringoklassen 3 жыл бұрын
I am into photography AND I have an Epson film scanner with Digital ICE but I had no idea how it actually worked. I thought it was all software based. Thanks for this video. I learned something here.
@davidtipton514
@davidtipton514 4 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating! I had never run across this process before!
@LordCarpenter
@LordCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I purchased my V600 for $170 from Amazon 4 months after this video was produced. I absolutely love it! But I'll have to admit.... I've never used the ICE feature. Back to the lab for some tests...
@Astlaus
@Astlaus 6 жыл бұрын
I scanned a quite massive amount of film (E-6, C-41, B&W) with an Nikon Coolscan LS40 and for the first two the dust removal was a godsend. Manual touch up in Photoshop is absolutely impossible to do in bulk, so Digital ICE's dust removal was simply a must. What I totally didn't like was grain removal. Anyway, thanks for brining all those fond memories back to me. BTW, what brought me into a film photography was, remarkably, an early DSLR: Olympus C-2500L. I had it borrowed for a weekend and it reignited my interest in photography. After some deliberation I decided that going with a old german Praktica SLR with Zeiss lenses and a film scanner was much better way (at the time) than going digital.
@hazonku
@hazonku 5 жыл бұрын
When I was in the Army I found our unit's dinosaur Xerox machines to be too unreliable for important documents (it's the government, EVERYTHING has to be in triplicate). so I finally broke down & bought the fanciest printer I could find. Both solving my problem and giving myself an excuse to disappear to my barracks sometimes. It just so happened that ICE was a nifty extra feature on that printer. I can just scan my film negatives, do some basic editing, & just e-mail photos? I'm living in the future! This nifty little feature ultimately started my entire journey into digital photography and art. I went from from the "art guy" infantry grunt who did everything traditionally to graphic designer and motion graphics artist all because of a printer that happened to have ICE. Also I just have to say I REALLY enjoyed and appreciated that real talk moment about not chasing technical perfection. So many people get their dreams stomped early by those comments & ultimately it's just exclusionary gatekeeping BS by insecure morons. Need proof? Look at all the movies & other video content recently that now jump through loads of hoops to give pretty digital video & images that old timey analogue look. If I can say one thing about VFX from high end to low, this last two years have been the year of the glitch & VHS effects. So if you're new and worried that you're not on the "bleeding edge" of technology just remember there are literally people that are spending hundreds of hours to make good video & images look bad. Something to think about the next time some pretentious clown starts preaching about how important it is to strive for technical perfection.
@HotRodHippie
@HotRodHippie 5 жыл бұрын
I just got home from shooting a roll of 35mm on my Canon AE-1 and the first video KZbin recommended to me was this one! I'm even planning on buying a film scanner soon.
@nooranik21
@nooranik21 5 жыл бұрын
I had an F1. Got it around the same time as you. I loved it.
@karenmackstewart
@karenmackstewart 5 жыл бұрын
I could listen to your voice all day. I hope you do lectures, and record childrens' story books.
@danielpitterly6466
@danielpitterly6466 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and very nice the digital ice but I don't know why I like the dusty look. I've been taking film photos for two years now, but I guess I'm not into perfection. I really like the dusty look when seeing film photos, for me the imperfections of the film photography are one of the main reasons why I think it's so amazing. Cool tool though
@chavakano54
@chavakano54 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well presented (like your subtle sense of humor too)
@Rossturnerphoto
@Rossturnerphoto 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a photographer and I found this video interesting. I use digital now but used to film in the 90s for the mid-2000s. I have a box of hundreds of photo print but very few negatives. Now I wish I'd kept more of them. I haven't used a scanner in years but a few years ago I took out the best of my photos and took pictures of them using my phone. It's far from the best image quality, but at least I have a digital record of them. Your video gives me an idea of something else I can do to try to get better quality the next time I decide to digitize them again.
@hcfornwalt
@hcfornwalt 2 ай бұрын
I just spent 7 months scanning in every photo, negative and slide my family had accumulated for generations going back to the 1870's. I bought a bunch of scanners, including a high-end epson. I was befuddled by the digital ICE setting, and because I was figuring so many other things out, I didn't bother to look into it. I wish I'd watched this video. Bummer, because I've been subscribed to this channel for years... just never saw this video. On the other hand, I bought a cheap Kodak brand film/negative scanner and a can of canned air... It's just a backlight, format-specific film holders, and an integrated 22MP digital camera with some rudimentary real-time brightness/contrast/color adjustments that you have to do manually at the time of scanning. I was pretty happy with the results actually... For all those faded old 110 prints that I also had negatives for, I was pretty amazed by the negative scans... it's about as good as you're gonna get them, and it happens at the speed of just shooting a digital photo. The project would have taken me 5 years instead of 7 months if I were using the slow epson scanner for everything. But I did use that epson scanner for old Tin types... Even though they are degraded over time, the actual photo is much higher resolution than more modern, printed photos, and having the option to go higher than 600 dpi matters.
@31173x
@31173x 6 жыл бұрын
I've been scared to use Digital ICE for a long time, but you've convinced me to give it a try. Not looking forward to rescanning 30+ rolls though...
@stevemakepeace666
@stevemakepeace666 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I purchased a V700 after watching this video and it is money well spent. The difference between the Perfection V700 and my original Perfection 3490 is night and day. I like the style of your video usually I find a lot of American accents jarring and too enthusiastic, but you are great. ALso your common sense knowledge of "what is right?" follows my philosophy, don't get bogged down into the detail, if you like it, it must be good.
@Braeden123698745
@Braeden123698745 6 жыл бұрын
This is so cool, I love this channel already.
@akeeperofoddknowledge4956
@akeeperofoddknowledge4956 5 жыл бұрын
Former 35mm amateur photographer, here. Loved this video! Thanks for sharing! PS: I just can't bring myself to parting with my venerable Nikon FM2 w/ motor drive!
@JamesPetts
@JamesPetts 6 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how this worked - how splendid! I also started in photography (give or take some short lived early stuff and a childhood 110 camera - those negatives do not stand the test of time well) with Canon FD.
@matthewpollock9685
@matthewpollock9685 3 жыл бұрын
Upon pondering the latter years of my public education and it's apparent focus on figurative fecal material, I find myself marveling at my neural synapses' ability to transmit and receive electromagnetic signals to even the most rudimentary degree. Something something kodachroooooooom.
@ClassicalRips
@ClassicalRips 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do more videos on film; both photography and cinema!
@karelpipa
@karelpipa 6 жыл бұрын
this video was nothing short of awesome. Thanks!
@electronman32k
@electronman32k 5 жыл бұрын
got into black and white film a few years ago and even did my owning processing at home :). there's just something so therapeutic about it and the quality is pretty good :)
@DavidLindes
@DavidLindes 4 жыл бұрын
7:27 - hear hear! If you haven't, I highly recommend shooting medium or even large-format slide film sometime... the artifact is just so friggin' cool. Also, love the sweatshirt!
@SpacemonkeySTI
@SpacemonkeySTI 4 жыл бұрын
Video was extremely informative. Mostly every video on KZbin just say “don’t use it. It sucks” appreciate the info!
@SkyraHope
@SkyraHope 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what digital ice was. Thank you! Great video!♥️👍
@johnhagen31
@johnhagen31 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you! Clear explanation and very informative.
@PipBoykin
@PipBoykin 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Lots of information well presented with good examples. Thank you.
@shitpostistan
@shitpostistan 5 жыл бұрын
No idea what I was hearing, but your voice is on point.
@LaskyLabs
@LaskyLabs 2 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this video a few years on, it reminds me of the tools offered to me in iZotope RX 9 The crackle and click removal work miracles on old record recordings. Of course, those aren't fully automatic systems, I've got to give it some input.
@allissondiego1989
@allissondiego1989 6 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of that. Very interesting stuff. Your videos are really well made by the way
@pricelesshistory
@pricelesshistory 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE how your shirt setting is set to M - manual. Those who love to take controls of topics.
@OperationBlueprint
@OperationBlueprint 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, exactly what I was after. Thank you
@Coylee91
@Coylee91 2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that when working on the DVD release of the 1981 Montreal Forum concerts by Queen they used technology like this to remove any film imperfections. They tried it with the DVD remaster of Singing In The Rain and it took out every drop of rain because they weren't present in the same pixel of the frames either side of the one they were cleaning up
@RapiBurrito
@RapiBurrito 6 жыл бұрын
Man this was a very enjoyable video, like your style!
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