Digital Scale Shootout

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

These are the scales I recommend right now: ►Truweigh RELOADR Marksman - amzn.to/2YrWWQY ►Truweigh LUX Mini - amzn.to/2qtKrb4 ►Brifit 50g Portable Mini - amzn.to/34ZHApy ►Homgeek Pocket Mini - amzn.to/2qwkpUD BUY A SET OF LYMAN CHECK WEIGHTS! ►Set like mine amzn.to/36c0x8D ►Larger set that comes in a plastic box amzn.to/2Rw4VLu Need a powder pan? This is the best option I can find on Amazon: ►amzn.to/38hK2JP

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

These are some of the ones I plan to buy next. If you've tried any of them I'd love to hear your opinion. If you've got any other recommendations, let me know! Smart Weigh Premium 50g - amzn.to/2YvikEU Newacalox 100g rechargeable - amzn.to/36jIugz Newacalox 50g & 100g USB powered - amzn.to/3427szI

[@poptart4YALL]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench can we get the link to the bench mat as well, please and thank you.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

@@poptart4YALL Unfortunately I can't like to MidwayUSA on KZbin because they sell firearms. Just head over there and search for "cleaning mat". The one I use will be the first result and it's called "MidwayUSA Gun Cleaning and Maintenance Mat". They are actually on sale right now! You can get the gigantic one I use, that covers nearly my entire bench, for $22.49. Even at the regular price they are an amazing value, in my opinion.

[@jordanbeavers2441]

Found another LUX Mini on Amazon for $19.99... Part Number LUX-1000-1-BK... Looks more like the RELOADR Marksman

[@maxchalice5625]

@@jordanbeavers2441 not enough resolution brother. It measures to a tenth of a gram. You needed to measure to a 100th of a gram for it to be useful for a tenth of a grain.

[@Thorsaxe777]

Okay, If you can stand a little praise for your research. Many people don't know where to begin when looking for a quality small affordable electronic scale, you gave a great informational video, also, you included explanation on the capabilities, functions and limitations. there was personal experience from a insider's view and recommendations of what to buy and what isn't worth what you are paying for. this was all done in a "Top Best Buy" elimination step by step. I bought two of the scales, the LUX Mini and the Brifit 50g portable mini. Btw, I have old faithful too, that is a awesome scale. Keep up the good work Johnny, you have no idea how useful you are to our community, Sincerely-Dave

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Thanks, brother. I'll be really interested to hear your feedback on those scales. I feel pretty good about the Lux, but I'm less sure about the Brifit. The early signs are promising, but I hope I don't regret making this video after only testing it for 2 weeks.

[@frankkalisz7455]

I use that plastic Lyman “powder pal” pan that you showed with the Lyman scale. I like it a lot after I epoxy glued a dime to the bottom of the pan. The extra weight of the dime makes it easier for me to handle and less likely to flip. I like the built-in powder funnel because that’s one less thing I need to deal with when I am weighing charges.

[@johnchausow4857]

How do you not have more subs.... it’s mind boggling

[@Ocdoutdoors]

Agreed..

[@freedomfirst5420]

Yeah, it baffles me!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Reloading is a small, niche community in the gun world. My channel is already 10X bigger than I ever thought it would be!

[@Ocdoutdoors]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench Yes that is a fact.. I've posted up a couple videos while at the bench, they don't get as many views as the videos I've uploaded of testing the loads.

[@pf8610]

This channel is probably one of the best reloading channels on here 🇺🇸🤘

[@colinrankin220]

I just bought a Frankford Arsenal ds-750 for $30 (this is Sept 2023) Very pleased. It is very quick and responsive. Comes with a 50gram cal wt. and a pan.

[@alanb76]

I picked up one of the small Frankford Arsenal DS-750 reloading scales. I just checked it with the RCBS deluxe check weights at 0.5, 1, 5, 10, 20 and 50 grains. It was either right on, or within 0.1 grain on all tests, and it had no trouble seeing the 0.5 grain weight from a zero reading. It automatically turns off in 2 minutes, and I don't see a way to defeat that. It has a folding protective cover that doesn't get in the way of trickling. It comes with a usable powder pan, 50 gram check/cal weight and a soft cover. It fits nicely in a Die size plastic box. It comes with and uses 2xAAA batteries. Rated to 50 grams / 750 grains max. It is quite small so good for situations that need a compact reloading scale.

[@frankkalisz7455]

Thanks for the thorough review. My experience with the old WAOAW scale (similar to the “homgeek” on your video) is that I suddenly start to get wonky readings when my batteries get low. So I never trust my electronic scale 100% when I trickle powder. My solution is to have my old balance beam mechanical scale preset to my target load so that I can use it to verify my trickled electronic scale readings. This doublecheck method saved me a couple times.

[@BBouncer]

I've had numerous scales over the years (actual reloading scales and NOT the cheap Amazon trash) and the absolute, hands down, best scale I've owned was/is the RCBS Rangemaster 750 which isn't made anymore, but I believe was manufactured by PACT. I 've read lots of complaints about electronic scales, but I believe in most cases, the issues can be attributed to user error. Three of the biggest culprits of erratic readings and "drifting" are fluorescent lighting, cell phones and Blu Tooth. If you have fluorescent lighting, change rooms or install LED lighting. If you have a computer on or anywhere near your bench, make sure the Blu Tooth is turned off, and finally, keep your cell phone completely out of the room. It's also beneficial to allow your scale to warm up for an hour or so before you start loading. Blu Tooth caused me major issues with all of my dispensers and scales until I finally figured it out and it actually caused me to buy a new dispenser when the original one worked just fine with Blu Tooth removed from the equation.

[@DistinctEditz555]

Thanks for taking one for the team and buying all known reloading scales. :)

[@axelec]

To off set the cost of checks weights I use small caliber bullets and paper clips of different weights and size, recorded them and placed in a safe place and use them when I want to calibrate. Make your own !

[@possumpopper89]

My 20 year old RCBS scale takes a full 10 seconds to register a small increase to a powder drop. It takes forever. I am glad I found this video, even though most of these scales aren’t offered on Amazon here in 2023.

[@Dwayne7834]

I purchased one of the ones that show .01. After seeing your last video on scales. A year or two ago. Been well pleased with it. I see several reloading videos that others do use the same little scale. Thanks for the information and great video .

[@z50com]

The glare on the echo can be removed by putting a piece of Matte Finish Scotch tape over it.

[@delta_4209]

I know this video was from 3 years ago but thanks for this My lux digital mini died and this helped me decide on a cheap alternative found the brifit for 16.95 it seems to be pretty accurate so far

[@cristianespinal9917]

7:38 I know exactly what you mean by that hundredths place really bringing out obsessiveness. My brother got me that one to get my reloading setup started. I love its accuracy, but man, I like my charges to be within ±0.02 grains of my target. I recently got a good deal on a Hornady Lock-n-Load automatic powder dispenser, and I love this scale to spot check its measurements and correct any loads the Hornady over-shoots. Also lets me know that the Hornady seems to throw charges within ±0.06 grains of my target, so I tend to use the charge thrower for my "sloppy" loads and still hand-measure each load individually for my "tight" loads. I'm not good enough to notice any accuracy difference between the two, but just knowing that such a "wide" spread is there bugs me when I'm trying to go for perfection.

[@dylancrow7919]

Until I watched this video, I never considered any of these potential problems. I really appreciate you saving me some time and money. I picked up the "four button on front" generic type. Does great for what I need.

[@dylancrow7919]

Fusion PL 50

[@AvocaSingleTrack]

I have a RCBS 505, a Texan, a Brifit, a Homgeek and Gempro . I got this TruWeigh Lux mini after watching this video. DO NOT BUY IT ! I used a set of F1 1mg calibrated weights from the hospital. I put on a pan, tared and then put on 280mg (a 200, a 50, a 20 and a 10mg) . All three of the digitals read 280mg as 4.3gr or 4.32gr or 4.33gr. The Truweigh Lux always reads 4.4 . I calibrated it twice. What a POS , and it was the most expensive digital i've bought ! Anyway , love the videos and love the channel Johnny !

[@lanceschul]

I have the Marksman and like it. I’ll throw charges in the uniflow then put it in my beam scale. Very seldom is it perfectly weighed or consistent but it’s close. Beam scale provides the final word for me.

[@odinKoS]

Glad to see this one back. It was gone for a while.

[@dougaustin2927]

I got the Truweigh reloadr and it varied by .6 grains. Sent it back to Truweigh and they sent a new one. Second scale did the same thing. I cannot rely on this scale. Thanks

[@bigracer3867]

you are definitely the scale guru!! I just bought the rcbs pan / funnel thingie. Yes i reload sitting down, should be relaxing.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Do you like the pan/funnel combo? I haven't used the one I've got enough to really have a strong opinion.

[@bigracer3867]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench Yes, works fine. I reload small batches a lot, 5 or less, trickle powder, seat bullet, so great for one loading at a time. I don't have to move the funnel anymore. I has its niche.

[@DanielBoone337]

"It was a waste of $30 but it had to be done" LOL Thanks for doing all the heavy lifting for us brother. I've been looking for a couple of good scales I got a feeling I'll be going the little expensive rout with the Truweight reloader... UPDATE... the new truweigh reloader I got (6-4-21) is freaking horrible it floats nonstop (+or-0.5) and wont read the same weight twice. I bought 2 so I could verify them the first 1 I got works perfect this new 1 sucks!!!

[@PulverizerA]

This is great info. But, as you stated, I'm afraid that it won't be current in 10 months time, as something or another will change from the manufacturer. Thanks as always for taking the time to do the impartial reviews. At least you don't LOVE everything that comes across your bench, like some others.

[@stevenclement3508]

During the pandemic I decided to start reloading so I started hunting for and purchasing equipment and components. I purchased the Marksman ReLoader off Amazon after watching this video. It was $49.99 when I bought it. Unfortunately I didn't have all the components I needed to start reloading until 3 months later so I could not return it. I should have read and believed the negative comments on Amazon. This scale drifts horribly. I can pick up a pan of powder and set it right back onto the scale and get a different reading every time. It varies up to .5 grains which is a lot since I'm loading handgun rounds. Occasionally when it does seem to have some repeatability, it can take a full 6 or 7 seconds to settle on a weight. The tare button doesn't always work. I'm in a evenly temperatured room with no air currents. I've turned off the fluorescent lights, tried anti static sheets, recalibrated it, tried using the tare button before weighing every charge. Perhaps some of these scales are ok, but even the 4 star reviews on Amazon complain about the drifting, lack of repeatability, . I enjoy your videos Johnny, but I think you must have gotten lucky with this Marksman receiving the rare good one. So If anybody is considering wasting $50 the Marksman, read the 1,2,3 and even 4 star Amazon reviews and believe them! I'm now considering the Hornady G3 1500, but I'm so gun shy about digitals now that I think I'll get a beam scale instead.

[@zinfendal0]

Great video... having 25 + years calibrating electric equipment. Any scale for reloading that Lyman weight set is a must. Sometimes those 50g cal weights are not accurate and can throw the scale off.

[@RanchoFiascoMike]

I bought one of the Truweight Reloader scales. It’s pretty slow like you had mentioned. Going to have to exchange it for a different one because when I check the weight of a powder charge or even the calibration weight it displays a different weight every time I set it on the scale. If a powder charge weighs 43 gr and I trickle a bit of powder into the pan, the next weight will display 42.6 gr. Find that I am smacking my OCD head in frustration multiple times. Might just have a lemon. Best price I could find on Amazon was $49.95

[@bigal4334]

I'm using a National Metallic scale from Midway. You can catch them on sale for $24 every couple months. It's not really fast but adequate and seems to be pretty accurate based on my Lyman check weights.

[@tonygslc801]

@Big Al43 how do you like that national metallic scale? I'm thinking about purchasing one from Midway but want to know if it's worth it or if it's even accurate. Also does it seem to drift or does it stay consistent? Thanks

[@bigal4334]

@@tonygslc801 Overall I like it. For rifle loads, 300 BLK, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 Creedmoor it's been pretty consistent. I recently tried it with some .380 loads and it wasn't as good. I was getting .2-.3 differences every few charges when compared to my RCBS beam scale. Not good when your charge is supposed to be 2.8 grains of TiteGroup. I think they're on sale for $25 this week.

[@josephhomen]

The anticipation of this video has been killing me 👻

[@stevemartin1111]

Good info Johnny I always pay attention to all your videos always

[@TexasTrained]

I have the Black and Gold of the 3 you picned.Its pretty good once warmed up.I love the auto off.

[@tacosandfrenchfries4561]

Perfect timing. I am new to reloading ordered a couple Frankford Arsenal and Lyman if they don't work out will check out your recommendations. As always you make the best videos man. Have a Merry Christmas.. Thanks

[@DimaProk]

Frankford Arsenal small scale is garbage, started with that thing and quickly found out how unreliable it is. Test it yourself, throws 20 charges and go back to 1st one and notice it's measuring different now.

[@daleswanson1784]

Spot on. My first scale was small battery operated scale that shut off so soon I couldn't load with it. And the pan, and dipper that came with it were useless. The second is a Hornady bench type for AC plug in or battery use. Big enough to be easy to use, accurate for a while, but then drifts and you have to re-zero it too often. Looking for another bench top that works with a trickier well, is accurate of course and stable zero.

[@z50com]

I hate that my scale shuts off all the time! It's my biggest gripe about the little Hornady Scale. . . .Great video!

[@brianneedham6060]

I've ordered and returned at least 3 or 4. Thankfully amazon has easy returns! Looking forward to this video!

[@andik859]

I am not a reloader but my brother do it. Thanks for show your scales.

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

Rock On Johnny has done the scale shootout. At least now I I know what not to buy. :)

[@TexasTrained]

I've been using a MTM DS-750. It comes with a dust cover and a goid plastic case and a 50g test weight. I've had it 3 years and gas worked flawlessly.I see it about 40.00 on Amazon now.I gave $26.00 for it.Ithink I will try one of yours after I get another MTM before I can't find another one for a spare .Great video .Thanks

[@Kim-if1qh]

I have that old homegeek or something that read .1 grain. Bought it after ur last scale video to replace my Lee scale, i hope i never have to replace it!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Those .1 scales are magical! Take good care of it!

[@danvaca199]

That little Hornady scale is a tank- Ive dropped my multiple times keeps on going

[@nuhlon]

Thanks for the video! I have a chemistry scale, powered via a cable so no voltage drops on batteries and can warm up and stay online for a long time. For the biggest precision when trickling powder, i found that the small amounts do not affect the reading because its filtered by the temperature shift, but its quite easily solvable by lifting the pan a little and butting it back so the change on the scale is large enough to change the numbers displayed. Its a painstaking process, but you can achieve great precision with this if you do not use to more expensive EM force restoration type.

[@Jeff_Seely]

You are a brave soul😁. Ways of measuring out powder do enter into that highly opinionated "my way is THE way"! I do have a few scales and I have a chargemaster and I don't use any of the digitals or that chargemaster anymore (although every one of them is accurate enough for me). I use a triple beam agate lab-scale because I like how it is always calibrated and does not turn off. I trust it. and then I use my Harrell's precision powder measure. And my crony speeds are just as good as with that chargemaster. My SD and ES are just as tight. There are several guys and gals that I know that can outshoot the hell out of me and none of them work up loads as I do it. So I'd look silly telling them to change anything at all. Awesome video Johnny!

[@donaldweber7636]

I payed ~$150 for my digital scale over ten years ago. Plugs into a wall outlet, so no auto off "feature".

[@rich1958]

What make and model? I assume you are happy with it if using for 10 years! Thanks!

[@mikeingeorgia1]

I started out with the tried and true Frankford Arsenal, and it worked well for years. Then one day, it started acting up, and would never settle down. The numbers would never steady up. So I watched one of your previous videos about scales and got that Woawa (?) version and so far I’m liking it. I believe it was around $15 on Amazon. It never shuts off on it’s own, which I appreciate. I don’t want to feel rushed when I’m weighing the powder.

[@R1j0hn]

@ 1:10 ---> use it as a tray on top of the scale...

[@alouiciousjackson5812]

I got the Topweigh March Milligram Scale(50/.001) for $18.99 and have been pretty impressed with it. It comes with a case. But the Neoweigh milligram scale for $17.95 is even better, comes with 2 metal pans, a mat, and no auto shut off!

[@singleshot2218]

Thanks for your efforts Johnny..much appreciated!

[@Serenityindailylife]

The lid is to weigh items that are bigger than the powder tray. The marksman is $50 now The cases for the sharpshooter is made for multimeters. The faceplate is the change. Brigitte has another thats a copy of the old hornady scale.

[@Jerry-dk8se]

I don't have any battery powered scales. My Lyman 1500 does have a battery backup, but primarily runs from the AC adapter. Plus my old RCBS 5-0-5 beam scale and my Hornady auto powder dispenser. But interesting video, nonetheless. Thanks Johnny

[@trumpie5399]

I started out reloading in 1973 with a RCBS 10-10 scale . In 2010 I went to the new RCBS 1500 chargemaster I replaced the digital scale once and today it won’t even turn on ….maybe the plug cord went bad. I still have my 10-10 scale as back up.

[@cbroz7492]

My gold standard scale is the one that came with the RCBS Ammo Crafters Kit that I bought in 1972...it's a micrometer adjustable balance beam...made by Ohaus for RCBS...almost 50 years old..Inuse a cheap scale that I bought at a head shop...Inusevit as a "neighborhood" scale. It gets me. In the neighborhood of the weight of an unknown object...bullet etc

[@DimaProk]

Scale pan with integrated funnel is best thing ever! Why would you want to mess with a separate funnel that requires a good case tray too. I use 9mm plastic ammo trays (like from Fiocchi) that fit perfectly 223, 300 BLK, 221FB and 7.62x40WT, they are free, compact and I got couple dozen of them. I have my hornady tray that takes up way too much space, can't get under powder measure so it's been collecting dust for years.

[@SteveM0732]

My Hornady press kit came with the now discontinued GS-1500 which is a 100g clam shell style. It has a 60 second auto off that can't be disabled and only seems to be accurate for a minute after calibration and zeroing before deciding that a 2gn check weight is 2.2gn. I don't mind cheap scales that aren't well suited to reloading as long as a reloading manufacture doesn't put their name on it and try to pretend like it has a use on the reloading bench.

[@andygrew4832]

The MK262 series is how I discovered your channel. Stuff like this kept me around. Thank you.

[@ryanokeefe12]

I'm hoping you've realised by now that the cover in the first two is designed so it can be used as a pan when flipped upside down and put on the scale.

[@brianmoore1820]

Very helpful . I was hoping for your comment on the Frankford DS-750 but I believe I know what you'd say about it with the 60 second switch off. However I will get rid of my lighting and replace with LED. So very helpful were I to change scales. I also have acquired much helpful info on the .223 round which I shoot in a Steyr Pro Hunter and a Ruger 77 varmint. Thanks.

[@marclarose4512]

I love my old faithful,still use it to this day. I noticed mine does the same thing when the battery starts to get low it gets a little walkie. Love this channel, keep it up Johnny!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

WHY DIDN'T THEY KEEP MAKING THOSE? I could have sold thousands for them!

[@marclarose4512]

That’s very true, us as reloaders look for something that works time and time again. I never once had a problem with mine!

[@mattm3562]

I have an old fateful I bought a while ago after Johnny originally mentioned it. Works great.

[@silentbob267]

I also bought one after Johnny's original review on them and I am really glad I did. I use it a lot for checking powder charges and weight sorting bullets. If I had known they were going to quit making them I would have bought a couple extra.

[@coltonkay9000]

Did you ever post a cross section of our old Hornady 300 Win Mag brass to look at the possible case head failure? I think this would be an extremely cool look 'be hide the curtain' of a case head failure.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Not yet. That video's coming soon.

[@THutch556]

JRB, love your videos. This is a good test and I’m sure will help lots of new folks in reloading. Thumbs up. However I would love to see more of a higher end set up such as a fx120i with some form of auto trickler. Or at least just the scale. They can be had from time to time on sale in the $500 range, lots of money yes but definitely would be a great addition for you. I think you have plenty of seasoned or higher end reloading folks watching your channel that would love to see you use products like the fx120i, I know I would as I’ve been in the fence for that set up for a long time. Anyways keep up the great vids.

[@rupertmcnaughtdavis3649]

Thanks,answered my questions. From South Africa.

[@kassilewis5511]

I bought the Lux Mini and the Frankford Arsenal 750 at the same time to pit them against each other then pit the winner against my tuned Lyman M5. The Lux surprisingly couldn't repeat better than +/- .2 when checking with the same weight. The 750 could keep it within +/-.1. In reality though I'm only using it to do a course powder charge then it goes to the M5 for trickling to the single kernel. Doesn't take as long as it sounds. Edit: I also bought the Lyman check weights and tested them on the M5 and all the cylindrical weights showed heavier than their expressed weight. The two 20s were even showing they didn't weigh the same as each other. Go RCBS DELUXE for check weights.

[@JinkxSoldga]

This video justifies my choice to stick with my rcbs beam scale. Rock solid, no batteries, and never suffers from CCP syndrom. Thanks for the vid Johnny!!!!

[@silentbob267]

I've caught my RCBS beam scale wandering by several grains 2 or 3 times loading a 50 shot string in a loading block. I only noticed it when doing a visual inspection of the cases with a flashlight before seating bullets.

[@kelvynfurniel7272]

Very good video liked it loved it... Thank you Johnny...

[@basketcas3717]

I swear it doesn’t matter if the scale is a cheap 20 dollar scale or the expensive RCBS charge master. Every scale I’ve looked at has had some bad reviews about it. Very confusing on what to trust.

[@youngwong2583]

do you need a new small scale? can send you for free.

[@davecollins2097]

I've still got an old Lyman 1000gr scale that I bought whenever they first came out, maybe 25 yrs or more ago, I'm thinking it could be 30 yrs. Pulled it off the bench by the cord that got caught by a rifle falling over. Out of warranty period. Sent it to them after talking to them about repairing, they sent me a new one, still have it. Cost me the postage. I've checked it against my beam scale, it is perfect 98% of the time, you can see when it is drifting, by the pan weight. I've likely done 30,000 cast bullets on it, and a lot of arrows, and whatever else needed doing from time to time, it;s been good. Think it was about 300.00 then, more than a beam scale. I also have a Chargemaster, splurged on it about 7 yrs ago, but, still find myself using the beam scale w/Lee spoons, and quite often the powder thrower, more than the electronic ones. May be the 1/100th gr scales will get looked at now that the Autotrickler is out there, and hopefully come down in price, it will take a while yet though.

[@Sleepykek]

Saw you had the tare weight written on the top of that Homgeek scale, and for a brief second, I wondered how you got ahold of my scale!

[@roul3688]

The Lyman is pretty good. When trickling, you do have to nudge the pan to pick up 1/10 increments.

[@youngwong2583]

do you need a new small scale? can send you for free.

[@alexallen5633]

Cool, been waiting for this video, thank you!!

[@tonygslc801]

I run the Dillon precision beam scale and I absolutely love it! Very accurate. Thanks for the review Johnny 👊😎🇺🇸

[@harveygussow7913]

I like the fact that you started with the least dependable scales. You only can get better ones if you get the money out. You get what yo pay for. None of which are showed except one the LYMAN. This is staging its bit but others will show up as being amazing as to what they can do.

[@youngwong2583]

do you need a new small scale? can send you for free.

[@Ocdoutdoors]

Started with that Lyman scale.. was ok when I was new.. then I learned.. the floating about sent it floating in the toilet.. bought the wawa scale after watching your other scale video.. it will float once and a while.. so I keep an eye on it before dumping powder.. Thanks Johnny !

[@russhayes4882]

Thanks for the heads up !

[@vitallimits5090]

Just getting into reloading, Great video,, I just ordered the Brifit model..

[@bajadrifter]

I purchased a Truweigh Reloader Marksman scale (on Amazon) and it failed to return to zero most every time. I was disappointed since Johny found it to be pretty good. If you like having to push the zero "tare" key each time you weigh a charge, this is the scale for you! I returned it.

[@RanchoFiascoMike]

I also have problems with this scale. Thought maybe I had a lemon. I have till Friday to return it and I will probably send it back. Use my balance beam scale until I figure out a better digital model

[@alouiciousjackson5812]

On the Truweigh it looks like the glare was caused from not removing the plastic protective film.

[@MikeMcCasland27]

As many scales as you've got on that bench, you could just get an FX120i, and there would be no question. Seriously Johnny, get you a 120i, and you'll never want/need another scale again. Love the channel. Needs more FX120i. Bonus if you go auto throw/auto trickler.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I am not going to use a $750 scale when I'm trying to make videos attracting new reloaders. If I didn't have a KZbin channel I would have owned one long ago.

[@s10v8dude]

My first digital scale was a cheap Frankfurt Arsenal...it was better than the lee beam scale I started with, but still was horrible. Then I upgraded to a chargemaster combo which worked great once you figured out its quirks. I wanted more precision, so I ordered a Gempro 250. It works great and is extremely accurate when it's not drifting which can be random. I've decided my CM and GP250 setup will serve me fine for now, but next purchased will be to a high end setup like the fx120i and autotrickler.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I had two GemPro 250s and managed to break both of them. Take care of the one you've got! I loved those scales.

[@glockparaastra]

I’ve been using an RCBS RangeMaster 750 for years with excellent results in all my firearms. It’s a good idea to invest in a quality scale if you’re a serious reloader.

[@dgunnut6550]

Thanks for doing this video! I’ve been looking to get a new scale and may go ahead and go with one of your recommendations.

[@hmoobshow2482]

This an old video and this scale is discontinued but I have gotten great results with a Grizzly Bald eagle unit which reads .02 grns so basically it can detect change down to a kernel of powder.

[@youngwong2583]

do you need a new small scale? can send you for free.

[@crossan008]

I have a lyman and its worked great for me!

[@hewasadragonman7797]

I was ok with permanent "auto off", when reloading on the turret press, for .223Rem and pistol calibers. Now I'm gearing up for "precision" reloading .243 Win and 7mm WSM, on a single stage press. It's time consuming. That digital scale better be f**king on, when I go to the trickle charger, after I get the "rough draft" charge, from the powder thrower. That "permanent auto-off" feature, on 99% of digital scales, is a deal breaker for me. That grain decimal also HAS to read on the second decimal now. So your favorite pick is a no-go, too. I'm looking for a cheap scale with "disable auto-off" and second decimal on GRAINS. Absolutely critical. I'm not paying $100+ for Chinese made analytical balances or $400+ for American "assembled" balances, either. I'm still hunting.

[@Mr79dream]

at 28:30 that is perfect, a scale has a minimum load, before it switches the auto compensation off, otherwise the 0 would constantly drift. Unfortunately many scales, never switch the compensation off, this is when we get problems with trickling up :-( Also with the grain measurement, I'm thinking of changing over to gramm measurements, because, most scales, if not all, but for sure those that use gramm calibration weights measure their load cell in metric and the grain is just a conversion, hence i.e. only 0.02 gn increments as 0.001 gramm don't convert even.

[@TheOutdoorGeneralist]

Mr79dream but any measurement we use, be it grams, grains, etc, are all conversions from binary messages sent by the load cell. Shouldn’t make much of a difference what unit you choose to display it in.

[@Mr79dream]

@@TheOutdoorGeneralist depends on what the initial A/D conversion is. If the scale would actually change directly at that level and you'd calibrate it with a grain weight, than it woul dbe fine. But afaik, if they need a gramm calibration, then they convert the analog signal to gramm and all other units are converted and rounded. The manual of my scale actually gives the conversion factor, I think for grain it actually uses 8 digits behind the decimal point, (15.43235835) but still it will give grain only to 0.02

[@strohausii]

My brifit stays on when nothing is on the load cell (stayed on over night), If I forget a load, shuts off after 3 minutes. Very sensitive if the table is jostled (lifting your arm, exhaling).

[@subjectofgov]

With scales especially, you get what you pay for. With any scale, treat it like an expensive instrument. Many high quality scales will weigh in grams, grains etc. I doubt Hornady builds scales.

[@frankkalisz7455]

I just couldn’t make myself spend all that money just to get check weights. I use a dime, a penny, a nickel and a quarter as my check weights. But I have to mark each specific coin with its specific weight - I was very surprised to find that different coins actually vary a lot by weight.

[@Hazzbro1964]

JRB, have the Newacalox 100g rechargeable on the way. Have some Mk262 mod1 loads to work on. Will compare to my Ohaus 10 10, RCBS Chargemaster Lite, and my WAOAW W-01-50 Digital Milligram Scale 50 X 0.001Gram . We'll see. Tks for all your hard work and great information!

[@Hazzbro1964]

So far so good with the Newacalox 100g scale. While it says it's accurate to .001g it doesn't hold it well. When switching to grains it's .1gr instead of .02g of the WAOAW scale. Once warmed up it does seem to measure accurately and repeatably. Didn't run a Gauge R&R but it would pass at .1gr for sure :) It is a little sensitive to weight vs position on the platter but, when using a powder pan I had no issues. Looking forward to your Part 2! Great work again!

[@djinfreemind1966]

That Lyman is great but no oz measurements. Used it for a long time until i started doing shot shells.

[@Dougarrowhead]

I use certified produce scales.

[@jcnikoley]

I picked up the truweigh based on this video. I would not recommended it to others, it's very inconsistent +/- 0.4gn weighing the same charge. I have an AND EJ123 now. Buy once, cry once. It's cheaper than buying a bunch of junk in the end.

[@dermotrooney9584]

Lovely. My scale was $8 (ish) and as consistent as a bipolar coke addict. The pan is a foil yoghurt lid.

[@dermotrooney9584]

Rubbish but cheap. Same scale with a pan is 3 times the price. Digital Scale, LED Backlight... www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y1Z2BS7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[@BG-ww5lg]

Yeah, that thing looks like garbage

[@DimaProk]

@@dermotrooney9584 Exactly like Frankford Arsenal, piece of junk.

[@dermotrooney9584]

@@DimaProk I think it's the same piece of junk but at 1/8th the price because it has no pan, weights or logo.

[@desertfox2020]

I've been looking for a replacement for my Hornady scale because I get a lot of zero drift with it. Basically every time I weigh something I have to rezero it because it will lose a tenth or two. For example my pan is 145.6 grains and I'll weigh a charge (even with no trickling) and when I pick the pan up, it says -145.5 or -145.4 almost every single time. I'll rezero it and measure the charge again and it will be a tenth over so I know it's affecting my measurements if left uncorrected. I think I'm going to get one of the Truweigh scales you recommended. BTW I trickle with my left hand!

[@TMS5100]

The biggest issue with the cheap scales is many of them don't handle trickling and accumulate error quickly. A&D FX-120i for me. autotrickler is awesome.

[@seantierney3]

great work. looking for a new beam scale myself. The lee pan is a little small for weighing out 100+ gain charges of black powder. probably will get a rcbs or redding. I would still really like you to test how much of a difference in accuracy each decimal point on the scales matter. ten shot groups from the 6ppc with a charge thrown from a measure, scaled to .1 grain, and to .02 grains. glad you found some more scales you liked.

[@TheOutdoorGeneralist]

Sean Tierney I’ve never heard someone explain the reason, but black powder should be measured by volume, not weight. IV8888 talks about it a little bit in some of his older videos about loading black powder cartridges. Sounds like another research project to add to my list.

[@seantierney3]

@@TheOutdoorGeneralist so real black powder can be measured by either. the trouble lies in the fact volume measures are not always calibrated correctly for the specific powder you are using, but is normally close enough. Substitute powders were designed to take up the same amount of space as bp but is less dense so those have to be measured by volume unless you want to do some math. and their are those who believe that you can only measure it my weight since grains is a weight measurement. truth is most people just find how much by volume works for them and call it good. I make my own bp and depending on the process I get a density that is either 65% or 90% what a volume measure says. So I need to figure out on my own how much a lee scoop is giving me and how much I am actually poring down the barrel of my rifle.

[@TheOutdoorGeneralist]

Gotcha, that makes a lot of sense! Thank you!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

@@seantierney3 I'll throw into this conversation that I've never measured my black powder by weight. I've always used the little generic volume measure! I'll have to test that at some point here on my KZbin channel. I switch between 3F and 2F black powder and I've never really considered the fact that the measure might give me different weights depending on the black powder I'm using. So many video ideas and so little time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@seantierney3]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench Like I said most of the time it is close enough. I normally use a little brass measure when I am at the range. A finer grain is always going to weigh a little more than a coarser powder. also brand can make a difference goex and swiss FFg probably don't weigh the same. plus lot variation and humidity come into play. I didn't know you shot black powder. What kind of guns do you use it in?

[@DannyShumaker-b9r]

Thanks for the very informative video, to check my electronic scale, I use an American nickle(5 cent piece) which weighs 5 grams by government standards, simple and cheap. Best wishes to all.

[@WilliamCChapin]

“Ya basically need to trickle with your left hand” - JRB

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

:) Hey, dude...have you watched the ShotMarker Update video? I'm curious whether it will crash your Apple TV again. I changed some settings when I was capturing video from the computer.

[@WilliamCChapin]

Johnny's Reloading Bench I did watch it - and no crashes! But I couldn’t access the folders in your ShotMarker directory... 🤪

[@rustybayonetcom]

Hornady pocket scale works fine

[@stacks4943]

Hello Sir... Thank you for doing this video..! You have certainly opened my eyes to the many low cost options these days... Do you have a favorite one you are using these days..? Thanks for your guidance..! Cheers..! 👍🍻🇺🇸

[@markt5450]

Soooooooo many scales so little time!

[@Aimsport-video]

A man with one scale always knows the weight. A man with two is never certain.

[@phazei]

On the GEM-20, after you hit on, hit and hold on again while the screen is still initializing where it's all lit up. That should let you turn the auto-off off

[@youngwong2583]

do you need a new small scale? can send you for free.

[@phazei]

@@youngwong2583 sure, I could use one

[@youngwong2583]

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