Pioneer DJ DDJ-FLX10 Vs Rane Four - For Serato, Which Is Best?

[@digitaldjtips]

⚡ TIMESTAMPS ⚡ 00:00 Intro 00:46 FLX10 vs Rane Four - The basics 02:54 Software compatibility & suitability 04:13 External inputs and outputs 05:29 Jogwheels 06:29 Screens 07:25 Sampler controls 07:52 Adding extra decks 09:22 Serato Stems implementation 10:04 Approach to stems 11:14 Stems Instant Doubles 12:53 Switching the mixer to stems 14:16 Individual stems with effects 15:45 Channel effects 16:23 Main effects 17:17 Serato effects 17:43 Prices 18:30 Which is right for you?

[@teresaduque881]

Ki😎😎💿🎛🎛🎚💿📱👍

[@counter5th]

@Digital DJ Tips you can select the Mic input on the effects source dial and apply any effect to it just like any other channel on the FLX10

[@gigiby241]

Numark mix stream pro

[@BhanrajRamroop]

Thanks so much for sharing this! I've been waiting for this review for the past weeks now. Thank you sir!

[@digitaldjtips]

Glad it was helpful!

[@billscott6819]

Great job on these videos, much appreciated. I'm 50 and my first mixer was a Radio Shack with no EQs, equipment has come so so far! I still keep an analog setup with a 1620 and 1200s, but I LOVE desktop DJing with files on these new machines as well. Stems are crazy, been on those since they first appeared in VDJ. At least we have all this cool progress in gear considering all the other dark crap in the world. Get lost in the music! Peace

[@digitaldjtips]

Indeed, get lost in music!

[@djroyal414]

Just sold my Prime 4 and ordered the Rane 4! Can’t wait to practice on it 👍🏼

[@digitaldjtips]

Enjoy!

[@hectormorales416]

Great video as always, I think my next controller will be the Rane Four, and I'm coming from a Pioneer SX2. I prefer the layout.

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks for sharing

[@radientproductions9799]

exactly the review we needed!

[@digitaldjtips]

Glad to help!

[@GixrGuy]

Peace be with you😌 Thank you for this very comprehensive and educational video! Because of your videos, such as this one, they’ve convinced me to alter my DJ Controller purchasing decision. As I’m new to DJING, I thought to purchase a Stand Alone unit. However, I now feel that either of these would be way better. Thank you! GOD Bless you🙏

[@digitaldjtips]

Glad to help GixrGuy

[@dieterboullart4124]

Thank you very much for this detailed comparison!

[@digitaldjtips]

you're welcome!

[@djsnowpdx]

STEMS split: instantly changing from playing the whole track on deck 1 to having the instrumental on track 1 and the vocal on track 3, is exactly how I think would be ideal for STEMS, having not tried it. Algoriddim’s Neural Mix FX are difficult to use / unintuitive, so simply using deck FX instead on a 4-channel mixer would be my favorite.

[@digitaldjtips]

Yeah, it is pretty usable!

[@TomFooleryTheAustere]

Algoriddim fell off a little bit, given they’re only putting any effort into their paid subscriptions. Their Djay Pro hasn’t had any updates in I couldn’t tell you how long… I’m dumping the Beatpad 2 at the end of September and upgrading to the Rane 4 and finally entering the world of Serato. I’m stoked!

[@DJBennyswift]

I ordered the FLX10 and should be in soon so I can go through it. I was going with the Rane Four but since it’s a bit bigger I opted for the FLX10. Thanks for the video Phil!!!

[@digitaldjtips]

you're welcome Benny

[@wikkidselekta]

FX Paddles 💯 Also, Rane finally looking CLEAN

[@digitaldjtips]

Yeah, we do think it looks a bit less cluttered.

[@DJUnprotected]

Solid breakdown. If I was going to get another controller, I’d probably get the FLX10. Definitely gives me the CDJ2000s nostalgia!

[@digitaldjtips]

Yeah, it is not so different in look and feel.

[@bwalsh1105]

I had just purchased the flx6 gt and 2 weeks later pioneer released this and I had to sell the flx6 and get the flx10. Absolutely worth the upgrade and price.

[@digitaldjtips]

If you can afford the difference, yes - we totally agree.

[@CraigBuffington]

My prime 4 was 2 days from the trial period at Guitar Center… took it back and now have a flex10 that just arrived. Thanks for the heads up on the features! Can’t wait to get practicing on my stems!

[@digitaldjtips]

Have fun!

[@justinjackson7688]

i just sold my prime 4 for the FLX 10 as well. stoked

[@bjamnification]

I believe it is possible on the Rane Four to do a Stems Split and then use effects on the an individual channel. This effectively allows Individual Stems with Effects (15:20)

[@markspies7410]

absolutely - awesome feature!

[@thatchinaboi1]

Yes. He made a mistake and probably forgot.

[@machiventa858]

@@thatchinaboi1 yeah that threw me off when he said that in the video

[@miyagithedj]

You are correct. you can easily apply FX to Stems when using stem split, the Stems pad mode or the acapella and instrumental buttons.

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes, 100% (you can do that on the FLX10 too). Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

[@djhemirukahemisphere8893]

Awesome contrasting review. Cheers

[@digitaldjtips]

Glad to help Dj Hemi

[@johscholz97]

What I needed right now ❤

[@digitaldjtips]

Glad to help!

[@marktsmotivation]

This definitely helped me decide. I was about to dump Pioneer before the FLX10 came out. I'm already running stems on my X2 by midi mapping. I absolutely love it!

[@digitaldjtips]

Glad I could help!

[@JulioChavez-f7e]

This week I got my ddj flex 10 let me tell you this machine is awesome 👍😎

[@digitaldjtips]

Enjoy it

[@Barnsey87]

That instant double is handy going to another deck because I like to scratch on deck B 😅 thanks for review Phil, top bloke.

[@digitaldjtips]

No problem 👍

[@DJkingFar-i]

Influencers pay attention this is how u do a comparison …. Perfect 👍🏿

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes! Thank you!

[@Oceancityent]

Never thought I’d buy another Rane product until now. Rane Four is a beast

[@digitaldjtips]

It is!

[@jerrychisholm8565]

@@digitaldjtips I totally agree , I have one and love it too much

[@jerrychisholm8565]

yes it is man , i bought one and love it.. i tryed the stems on rekordbox and to me it sounds horrible , serato sounds better to me

[@jamessepulveda5202]

​@@jerrychisholm8565try virtual dj stems. They are above Seratos stems.

[@1spracket]

I Love My Rane 4🤞🏽🔥

[@bubbaschwartz]

Awesome review thanks for all the information.

[@digitaldjtips]

you're welcome

[@FlyCasual1]

Great comparison Phil. I’d like to see how the phono stage sounds through the flx10 as the pioneer phono preamps are notoriously poor. Great video as always!

[@digitaldjtips]

We've been told this has been fixed.

[@giuseppetonziello6933]

Nice feature on the flx10 to use knobs to control the stems!!! But without echo in the mic :-(

[@kingofqueens777]

Thank you for the great video review, I’ve always known that pioneer has been the king of DJ equipment in 1987 I bought a Roland DJ mixer for $1000 when I should’ve bought the Pioneer DJM 600 it was the same price.

[@digitaldjtips]

That was my first "pro" mixer, the DJM600

[@gregdubz3522]

I would love a video comparing the Pioneer Rev 7 vs the FLX10. What do you guys think?

[@digitaldjtips]

Maybe... one is a specialist scratch controller, one is a club-type controller so they are aimed at different audiences.

[@thahardman]

Great comparison. You should be able to eq the bass to get around that issue on the flx10. Looking forward to testing these out

[@digitaldjtips]

you mean the three stems issue?

[@thahardman]

@@digitaldjtips yeah. Since there's no bass button, just eq it out on the channel. Not as easy as a button, but I'm used to doing it with a transition

[@jerrychisholm8565]

rane 4 hands down is my choice

[@daspotjoel]

I truly don’t understand how these non all in one controllers are so expensive

[@digitaldjtips]

Build quality, audio quality, decent ins/outs, onboard FX.

[@takingafatdump]

is the exact same product but less than half the price than an all in one, you just have to plug a computer in. no biggie for most

[@themainman3900]

Both are also in the cheaper end (relatively speaking) when it comes to feature packed 4 channel mixers since they can be used that way too.

[@Judasz696]

Yup seems like toys compared to a&h mixers. Then again i would only buy smth like this for steams in real time. Everything is digital here

[@bwalsh1105]

The audio quality difference between the flx6 and flx10 shocked me. I’m not saying they couldn’t be a little cheaper because they certainly could. I turned my trim up to like 8 o clock and the master was around 11 o’clock (so not even at 0db) and I truly was blown away how great the sound was. The flx6 just has RCA connectivity which pales in comparison.

[@dulfaMB]

Good review! 👌 But i am still not able to decide. 😫 I have ddj 400 now, and would like to upgrade big. I like scratching so i go towards Rane, but i am not familiar with Serato. And Pioneer is Pioneer. If Rane had spinning jogs i would decide in a second, but now i am still lost. 😅

[@digitaldjtips]

It's harder to change software than hardware, if that helps

[@djtravieso07]

12:55 - so the EQ knobs can control the stems on the flx 10?

[@eddyc7500]

what a great guy and nice infos

[@digitaldjtips]

Glad to help

[@BarelyLegitBeats]

Hi Phil, can you say something on how they both actually sound? We know Rane gear always sounds amazing but would love to hear how the pioneer's soundcard compares please. Thanks!

[@digitaldjtips]

It sounds very good too.

[@miyagithedj]

Rane FOUR is 24 bit, 48k FLX is 24 bit, 44.1k Rane wins

[@thatchinaboi1]

Rane Four sounds good to my ears on my studio monitors.

[@MrFullyCharged]

Four will likely hit harder, par for the course.

[@jdsmart7530]

would that be any chance to start providing measurements and dimensions of the controllers in future videos please, so that we can take a decision on the size and performance, size always matters for DJs to be able to take it to gigs and to make sure that our bags and cases will fit the new controller, thank you for the nice reviews?

[@digitaldjtips]

We add them to the "Spec" panel in the linked written reviews.

[@dtwistrewind7361]

The Rane works with virtual DJ and can also be mapped for traktor now.

[@digitaldjtips]

thanks for the update on that!

[@MrFullyCharged]

I think the video seems to be a bit “they’re just about the same, but different” even in the instances where I think the Rane has superior elements. I bet the rane still lacks proper BPM sync for effects & I still prefer the feel of pioneer mixers. However, the rane seems Better in the way they implemented stem features… It’s not my favorite aesthetic, but I imagine the rane also SOUNDS BETTER with the 48k/24bit IO that likely HITs harder.

[@fabricator.cap.hill.seattle]

Why did the FLX10 decide to only go with 3 stem buttons (drums, vocals, inst) vs the possibility of 4 stem (drums, bass, instruments, vocals), like the Rane Four? Isn't more control just better?

[@digitaldjtips]

It’s Rekordbox not the FLX10, and we think they thought that would be enough for most DJs

[@deerealdjfrylock7370]

Every Time I’m looking at the pioneer DDJ FLX 10 Controller I can’t stop thinking about get it my head is really spinning looking at it it’s driving me nuts like hell 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Jesus Christ Lord, have mercy please Lord let me get this 🙏🏽 oh god 🥵 !

[@digitaldjtips]

You've got G.A.S.!

[@agreen9903]

Would love to hear how the flx10 comparison to ddj800

[@househeadspeakz]

If I was strictly a Senato user, I would go with the Rane Four. That is what the unit is for. Since I use Pioneer and Rekordbox only, I will get the FLX 10. You can't go wrong with either choice.

[@digitaldjtips]

No, they're both great units.

[@billclinton51]

Rane Products are designed to be very clean looking, with there various features. And nothing is wrong with that. 😎 Pioneer and there designers give there Products a Soul. They are, if anything, the GT/AMG Version of whatever product. (Example: Controllers). So I prefer by looks alone:Pioneer Products.

[@markspies7410]

Four does also have instant doubles, as well as the stem split mode

[@digitaldjtips]

It does, as stated in the video.

[@DJRomanCandles]

I'll take Rane, Roland, and Denon anyday over anything Pioneer!

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks for your feedback

[@LiKwaiLao]

Well done thank you

[@digitaldjtips]

Thank you too!

[@abraham_afaglo]

FLX uses pad mode for stems, it’s got all 4 melodies too bro.

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes, but it's a bit of a hack, ie you can't use all four stems on the FX etc. and it makes the three stems hardware buttons redundant.

[@abraham_afaglo]

@@digitaldjtipsYeah that’s because it’s not solely a Serato Hardware but they found a way to incorporate it in there.

[@lustforlow-end6022]

My DJM400 doesn’t have a split cue feature either but if you leave the master cue button on and choose a single channel cue then you can have split cue. I’d imagine it’s the same on most Pioneer units?

[@digitaldjtips]

Good point!

[@nomnom34]

I think rane four controller is still on top and easy use. The stem section is fantastic and more in more in precision.

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks for the reply, Nom Nom

[@jamessepulveda5202]

Rane warranty sucks ass. Trust me. I'm dealing with it now. Rane 4 also is stuck on Serato. With pioneer you can also use it with rekordbox

[@dtwistrewind7361]

​@@jamessepulveda5202works with vdj and mappable in traktor now.

[@dreamdaycharleston]

Honestly looks like a toy vs a tool. Rane being the better build 🔥

[@digitaldjtips]

Guess these things are subjective

[@DJNibz]

Thanks for the review! I’m looking to upgrade from my Pioneer DDJ-SX2. Which will of these controllers should I get?

[@digitaldjtips]

for Serato, the Rane Four

[@nicholasfischetti2885]

Great review! Can you change the displays on the screens for flx10 in serato or only recordbox? Not working for me, am I hitting the wrong button?

[@digitaldjtips]

No, Serato only has one screen display.

[@dejavuking]

From what I can see the flx10 doesn’t appear to have split cue which is utter madness!. I’m sure the 1000 did unless I’m completely wrong!. To me that’s absolutely invaluable because I can’t use speakers at home I have to use headphones only!. That’s a make or break feature for me if it doesn’t have it I won’t buy it!.

[@digitaldjtips]

Pretty sure neither do

[@dejavuking]

@@digitaldjtips ahh that’s such a shame. I say it’s a deal breaker but it’s still compelling because of the hardware FX. I mean I’m only still at the beginning of learning but I feel it’s more cost effective to go from a beginner controller to one more like this or the denon sc live 4. As then hopefully I won’t feel the need to upgrade again. I might still end up getting this but as you’ve said the ronin 707m is still compelling just it seems a bit old now. It’s an exciting time though it appears I’m getting into djing (hopefully getting into/getting good enough) at the perfect time. I’m going to purchase your course soon as you and your channel is sooo invaluable, your great great.

[@selectaguru]

Rane 4 has split cue, Flx10 don’t

[@jackburton7677]

You don't need split cue to mix just with headphones, your brain will adjust don't worry.

[@thecatalyst78]

Don't know if this a new feature that was added, but the FLX10 does have spit cue now at least. You need to turn it on and off in the software. Just adding this in case others see this.

[@dj.profesahero417]

Big ups

[@Dazzy3F]

I think im sold on the dmx plug sounds way more fun

[@digitaldjtips]

It is!

[@ooowatzthat]

Pioneer just looks better

[@digitaldjtips]

Guess these things are subjective

[@ooowatzthat]

@@digitaldjtips damn lol a way to say it's ugly

[@xouat]

From far enough way they both look pretty similar

[@jamesslaven4103]

Defo won’t sound better that’s for sure lol

[@ooowatzthat]

@@jamesslaven4103 I'm sure it average music lister would not know nor care to be honest

[@goldensounddj5606]

Im a mobile dj im happily still using denon mc6000 mk2 with serato pro since when ever it came out in order to catch up with this new technologys stems which would be the best option for me the reason i like my denon is of its compact size easy to transport and i di use the pitch bend before that i had denon hc4500 midi controller with connected rane sl3

[@digitaldjtips]

Maybe a small pad midi controller

[@kunad2294]

Where is the USB stick out, come on pioneer love the flexibility on flex 10,great job 💪.

[@VaughnGoy]

You can actually use effects on each stem on the rane.. just it has to be done in stem split..personally I went with the rane..unfortunate the one I received has a defective right jog suffering from touch outages ..currently waiting for the replacement process to play out, but when the rane works it’s an absolute joy to play on. One thing is while the rane is a hardware mixer it only allows input into Chan 3 and 4 instead of the flx10 that allows it on all channels.

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes of course, same in the Pioneer.

[@mikesterloc]

I feel your pain. I took delivery of a rane four on release day with a faulty left deck. Returned it and received my replacement yesterday. Hopefully the capacitive touch issue doesn’t become a regular occurrence

[@VaughnGoy]

Received my replacement this past weekend and it’s perfect!

[@SureYouRight]

It's hilarious that the company known for it's hands on approach to djing is now using jog wheels instead of platters. I can't believe they didn't use platters with all this tech, could've been a deadly weapon. I'm going to sit by and wait for more options.

[@digitaldjtips]

Jogwheels are fully accepted by the DJ world, Rane has both options available so DJs can choose the gear that works best for them.

[@roberttinsley551]

I don't know if you will comment on my comment but I watched the entire video I like the video and it made me very understanding but you missed one part that I am very interested in and that is connecting a set of vinyl turntables please if you can come up with another video if you have to to let me know about installing vinyl turntables on a Pioneer DDJ flx 10

[@digitaldjtips]

Plug them in at the back and select them as the source

[@djjamesfalk]

I've previously owned the Pioneer, SX, SX2, SX3, SZ & SZ2 and used them all religiously for the past decade. From a pure fidelity perspective I found the Pioneer series of mixers identical in audio quality from one model to the next, particularly when maximizing the gain stage on each unit. With that said the SX2 & SX3 are notoriously bad with regard to ones ability to trim the input level. On the SX, SZ & SZ2 models, a typical track (NOT using Serato's auto gain feature) was trimmed to 0db at approximately 11 o'clock on the trim knob, whereas on both the SX2 & SX3 a setting of only 7 o'clock was most often the setting. This complicates ones ability to maximize gain structure when even the slightest adjustment causes exponential jumps in db. We've all seen dj's red lining the mixer, compressors limiters and amps, but even in the hands of a veteran dj with solely fidelity in mind and playing lossless files, I always felt I was sacrificing quality, but unable to do an A-B test, I never realized how bad. Enter the Rane 4. A MASSIVE difference in audio quality! I can't speak for the FLX10, but past experience on the other 5 units all had microphone lines so bad they were unusable. For a decade a secondary analog mixer has always been present at gigs to run microphones. As mentioned by others in the comments section, Pioneers phono amps are notoriously poor as well. I've yet to ever see the sound cards within these machines listed, but my ear says they can't be good. What a difference in the Rane 4. Deep rich bass and clean crisp highs to my main rig, & as a dj who most often mixes in the headphones, the signal quality to my cans takes me back to the days of mixing on the Rane MP 24, the industry standard club mixer of the 80's & 90's before digital files had music become noise. For some of us, all the bells and whistles in the world (effects/stems) means little when all that was wanted was to pass a clean signal from source to the main PA. Rane has a long history of provided exceptional fidelity. I'd love to see a review of both these units with simply acoustics in mind. VERY pleased moving over to Rane. What is bothersome is my switch comes just as Pioneer's parent company Alpha Theta purchases Serato. Hopefully this doesn't interfere with Rane's product development moving forward.

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks for sharing. FYI the deal is not yet done re Alpha Theta / Serato…

[@No--0--Spin]

maybe I missed it, what about build quality? I have a Rane One and know what to expect from the four...I also have the flx6, is this like the flx6 build...ie plasticy?

[@digitaldjtips]

No, it is good build quality, nothing like the FLX6. It is similar to the DDJ-1000.

[@AMUNSAMY]

RANE are build to last. Pioneer seems to have long term jog wheel issues. I love both

[@digitaldjtips]

Both have issues sometimes to be fair

[@qr9180]

Anything against pioneer, I will take it .

[@MrTHARAZOR]

Using a microphone and recording which is better?

[@TheEsseners]

Flx10 is very nice

[@jasonlegister2277]

THX Phil

[@digitaldjtips]

You're welcome!

[@andiedwards368]

Great video....but my main interest is the phono pre amp. I put off buying a DDJ 1000 in January because i heard they were rubbish. So it would be nice if you do a test to confirm that there is an improvement from the DDJ 1000 in this area.

[@digitaldjtips]

We will crack out the turntables at some point soon if we get a second

[@djghettoblaster]

How are the fx of the rane four as compared to the pioneer fx. I have a denon mc 7000 but i'm missing the quality of the pioneer fx. Do you think it's possible to connect a mac from 2013 with simple usb not usb-C with the flx10 ?

[@digitaldjtips]

We think Pioneer FX are the best of the two, although some of the Rane's are very good.

[@franklinpleinstreetphotography]

The mic has effect thru the effect section rotaryswitch on the pioneer

[@digitaldjtips]

It does indeed, thanks for that.

[@ScantSquad]

Rane is so organic. No remapping, no learning different names for same functions. So much better than a butchered rekordbox controller patched for serato…pioneer have a cheek adding serato to the front of the unit😊

[@digitaldjtips]

They got ravaged for not making the original DDJ-1000 Serato compatible though…

[@marinarodrigues6470]

Help ! Unable to connect flx10 to serato . “Couldn’t connect to MIDI “is the error . ( updated the lates version ) Works fine with rekordbox Please help !!!!

[@ariel_monzon]

Does pioneer still have the 4 beat loop that needs to be midi mapped again? Cause I HATED that.

[@Barnsey87]

I heard that rane four is 4 channel, but can only play 2 at a time, Is this true?

[@digitaldjtips]

No, it is able to play all four channels just fine.

[@steliosliavas6499]

For VDJ use which one has the lead do you think?

[@luramen]

Excellent video! How does one unlock Serato Pro with the purchase of a FLX 10 controller. I bought one but still asks for a subscription or to buy the software.

[@digitaldjtips]

The software should still function without doing either of those things, although it will probably try to get you to sign up anyway. Are you saying it isn't working?

[@luramen]

@@digitaldjtips thanks for the prompt reply Phil! Software its working with full functionality but I see in my Serato account the options to buy or subscribe. So I was wondering if it was working on a trial basis. On Rekordbox however, it does ask for a plan to subscribe or buy before I can unlock full functionality.

[@stilo8505]

Both of these controllers will work with virtual DJ? because I prefer these controllers and virtual DJ

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes

[@JonV1234]

What is the sound quality between the two? Is one cleaner, louder, etc than the other?

[@digitaldjtips]

Comparable.

[@djshyproductions]

Pioneer jogs -> pressure capacitive Rane jogs -> touch capacitive

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes, thanks for adding that

[@soiceyboy33]

I haven’t really heard anyone call this out, but I think it’s weird how the Rane 4 has 22 built in FX, but if you reprogram one of the buttons to a different effect, it’s still labeled what it originally was. So for example, if you change the ‘Recycler’ effect to ‘echo out’ , the button you press is still labeled ‘Recycler’ . Maybe they should’ve put a screen above the FX so you’d know what it was reprogrammed to . Saying this as I look at my Rane 4….

[@miyagithedj]

When you press the FX button, the FX display shows what FX you have changed it to. Problem solved

[@fedscame]

even the s11 s9 and s7 is like this just like the 70 and 72

[@db9814]

I have a question about adding a turntable to Rane Four. I have Reloop RP8000 which have pads and loop ….i like to run 3 and 4 tracks at one time. I’m curious if I can hook them up and use the pads (cue points) and have full control of all 4 channels individually without having to switch from 1 to 3 and 2 to 4 for control ?

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes, I'd say you could.

[@thatchinaboi1]

I haven't scratched on vinyl in a while, but the feeling of the platters on the Rane Four is pretty close to actual heavy vinyl on regular slipmats. Not quite as light feeling as light vinyl on battle slipmats. I wish it was possible to adjust the tension and make the platter feel slightly lighter, but I guess I'll get used to it.

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks for sharing!

[@reggiecharleston2433]

I have the Rane Four so when ever the play on it channel 2 have an bad echo when I turn the volume up it sounds really bad...help please!

[@allandenola5968]

I have a Roland 707m on backorder but I’m afraid serato dj might not support it in future upgrades to the software ? What do you think- I’m a mobile dj -Wedding Dj and Serato Lover

[@digitaldjtips]

It will! It's still a current controller.

[@atypical_blk_guy]

Sorry to jump in your comment but I don't see a lot people talking about roland. I would like to replace my mixtrack platinum fx with a better 2 channel controller. I'm interested in the 505 but I hear there's a lot of issues with it. As a roland user, do you forsee any issues with getting a 505 or maybe going with a 707m? I'd never use all the features but I like the portability factor of it. Thanks for any feedback.

[@zvookaadmin3967]

@@atypical_blk_guy 505 is ancient, depends on the budget but Prime 2 can be a great option or even Prime 4 from Denon DJ, else the Rane 4 is a beast

[@atypical_blk_guy]

@@zvookaadmin3967 I had a Rane One but unfortunately had to sell it to cover a dental emergency. Will be getting the Rane 4 for my birthday in May!

[@ToreHogas]

I have the 707m and it's an excellent controller! 😊 I was disappointed when Serato 3.0 came out and replacing a pad mode with stems was not supported on it, but that was fixed in Serato 3.0.4. which dropped TODAY ❤. So yeah, seems like Serato will be supporting for some time

[@efi1728]

You can’t loop in and out on the rane without hitting shift, which needs 2 hands to do , the shift button is to far from loop in out so you can’t do it with one hand 😢

[@dieterboullart4124]

Still not clear to me: can the jogs on the FLX10 show parallel waveforms when used with Serato? In the general FLX10 review Phil told they couldn't. In that case it's no argument when comparing these two controllers for Serato use.

[@digitaldjtips]

No, not on either I don't think?

[@rodneylewis6104]

yes on the Flx10

[@No--0--Spin]

Thank you...is it too much to ask to have them side by side :) for size reference next to each other

[@No--0--Spin]

I guess I can use Phil's hand as point of reference as it changes view between the 2 lol

[@digitaldjtips]

FLY 10 is not quite as wide, a bit deeper, not as tall. They are pretty close though in size.

[@_BIGGASH]

Do we still have to put the tracks in the STEM library? Or does the controller eliminate that?

[@digitaldjtips]

No, the controller is simply a great way to control the laptop software, it doesn't offer any additional power.

[@rkivuti]

Man I wish the flx10 had the same pads modes like the s11. I love using the slicer and scratch bank. I still don’t know why they waste a pad mode with Pad FX when there is a whole effects section.

[@digitaldjtips]

Fair comment.

[@H-MonSteR]

I’m very confused I have Ddj 400 and I want to upgrade ‘ so should I buy flx 10 or rane four ? I hope everyone answer

[@digitaldjtips]

FLX10 is the obvious upgrade

[@rayhammertime]

You had a video up for mapping older smaller controllers for stems but I can't seem to find it now😢

[@rayhammertime]

@@djstuc Thanks, I've seen crossfader's but I'm almost certain Digital DJ Tips briefly also had one up with Phil and the DDJ Flx4. But maybe they took it down to correct something

[@digitaldjtips]

Yeah we jumped the gun on that one, Crossfader's is good though, it covers the basics 😀

[@sonidosoundwaves]

Rane, is way better at everything, compared with a recycled coke plastic-made controller! Can't wait to have my Rane 4 in June

[@IAMDJKOOLROD1200]

💯

[@Dannyfr33sh]

I need to buy one of these nows! I want the flx10 but its never in stock. The rane 4 is in stock :(

[@digitaldjtips]

Yeah lots of supply problems

[@Dannyfr33sh]

@@digitaldjtips should I just go with the rane 4 since it’s in stock or patiently wait for the flx10?

[@MrFullyCharged]

I also have no use for Mobius and some of the other newer Pioneer effects, so the FLX isn’t crushing Rane in that area IMHO.

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

[@djsnowpdx]

What is the most compact setup you know to get four identical decks, with jogwheels, play buttons, speed sliders, etc., controllable through software, and a 4-channel mixer in the center with volume sliders, EQ, filters and a crossfader? I love my Reloop Mixon 4 but, in the moment, in the mix, can't seem to wrap my head around switching with a button between controlling Deck 1 and Deck 3, or Deck 2 and Deck 4, and I forget I've changed it and play the wrong track. Does a single-deck product like the CDJ-3000 (from any company) exist scaled down to take as little space as possible? The decks don't need screens as I'll look at the software for that, but I would like 8 performance pads per deck.

[@digitaldjtips]

A common issue! No such thing as a compact set-up like this I'm afraid. Denon DJ used to have a scaled down deck, that's long gone though.

[@DJPeterLo]

Just two jogs and pitch faders (are you looking for four?) but the Roland 707m is a pretty compact 4 channel mixer.

[@jackburton7677]

Denon LC6000 is what you're looking for I think. Either 4+mixer (if identical decks is a must), or 2+controller for more flexibility.

[@brianwoelke2878]

Can you add beat roll onto the performance pads for the FLX10?

[@KenRick2010]

🕵️‍♀️

[@drewblanche]

I returned the flx10 am gonna try to get the xz ❤

[@moonraker_music]

What made you return it?

[@drewblanche]

@@moonraker_music I wanted to be able to record my mixes via usb and just upgrade to a mixer and cdjs later when I can, but practice on this for now cuz it’s the closest to the club setup that I can get my hands on. Plus I don’t want to use a laptop 💻

[@DJBrianHarris]

I’m a VDJ user. Does this still work well with the FLX10? I’m an SX2 user currently.

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes

[@gorrilaunit99]

*Which shade of black plastic is your favorite?* 😂

[@digitaldjtips]

It's a bit more than that, but yeah - most controllers do most things pretty well. 😀

[@thatchinaboi1]

I wish I can use Serato's Combo Filter instead of Rane Four's Combo Filter. Is there any way I can midi map it so that I can use it instead?

[@miyagithedj]

You don't need to map, just switch from Flex FX to Serato FX and choose the Combo Filter the you can use it with the FX paddles.