DF Direct! Is PlayStation 4 Pro Worth Buying For 1080p Gaming?

[@greatdelusion7654]

Actual video starts at 5:28

[@lunaumbra5179]

THANK YOU

[@youngodonkor6595]

Yooo i was so confused i thought i clicked the wrong video.

[@emmprodigy]

I’ve been waiting for this , thank you

[@viggowhite760]

👍

[@nitharshanvasanthakumaran4984]

I really appreciate the people that do this. Thank you

[@jericoba]

I’ve always thought performance goes before resolution. Too bad everyone and everything is so set on taking it to 4K. Without performance, the gaming experience is out the window.

[@jericoba]

@@PanzerVII-df8hg I don’t have the data to disagree or concur with your statement if consumers wanted 4K consoles or not. Progress is ever ongoing, in all areas. 4K is better resolution, it’s a fact, but regardless if it's 4K, 8K or 28K, the performance, and experience should always be prioritized.

[@sugarhieroglyph]

@@jericoba exactly.

[@fullauto86]

I couldn’t agree more, they should’ve prioritized framerate and frame time even before worrying about moving anywhere past 1080p, maybe 1440 at very most (which in my opinion is usually fine for resolution, 1440 is a perfect sweet spot.

[@alegotronnortogela7695]

@@fullauto86 1440p is totally fine. 4k is luxury and maybe even overkill for most games. The cost of 4k monitors alone is outrageous, let alone a graphics card that can actually run native 4k without DLSS and FSR at 120fps. 60 fps is the bare MINIMUM but 100-120 fps is the sweet spot for smooth gameplay. Why does everyone NEED the graphics to be better, they've been more than good enough for the past ten years and now all the new games run like crap and have more bugs than we've seen since New Vegas.

[@TampaStPete]

I have my PS4pro running on an internal 500G Samsung 860 SSD

[@myairspace121]

That's pretty awesome, but how is 500G treating you? I can't imagine you'd be able to put more than 5AAA games . . .

[@myairspace121]

@@jheref lol what?

[@myairspace121]

@Transistor Jump more recent ones are around 60-70 though no?

[@myairspace121]

I was just asking a question and now people are making fun of me 🤷🏽‍♂️ so much for open conversation

[@matheuskiskissian]

I'm using a 2Tb Firecuda SSHD. Just as good, but cheaper.

[@JoPeTuYaTroJoueY]

Love the little chat at the beginning and the postman guest + unboxing !! New DF style of content, loving the low key vibe of it !

[@DJBV]

The ps4pro is what the og ps4 was supposed to be

[@HostileWaffle]

True 👍

[@Ledgepls]

the original ps4 is a great machine, and still the leader of the un-enhanced consoles. I think that phrase works better for Xbox since the x1 was subpar, and the X is such a competent improvement. But I never felt a generation behind on og PS4 like I did on my Xbone early to mid gen.

[@tymo8708]

In 2013 a 4.2 tf gpu with a 2.8 tf cpu and 9gb of gddr5 wouldve costed a arm and a leg.

[@viniciuscoxoba3842]

@@tymo8708 ps4 pro has 8GB of GDDR5, and a 2,1Ghz Cpu, and would cost an arm a leg and a eye 🤣

[@tymo8708]

@@viniciuscoxoba3842 the ps4 pro has an extra gb of ddr3 hs but its cpu caps out at 2.8 tflops of computing power in 64 bit. And the cpus from 2013 that had such power often costed more than 400 bucks

[@retractingblinds]

You know, i subbed to you guys for DFR. The series was so good and there was a point where a new video was out every week. John clearly has an incredible passion for this stuff and as nice as his perspective is on newer games he provides an essential, high quality documentation and historical preservation. I'd love to see him give more forgotten ambitious classics and landmark games the attention they deserve

[@PatrasPhantom]

The first 5:25 minutes had nothing to do with the title of the video... Come on guys.

[@bluesync1]

Fully agree, it's a bit annoying.

[@gregoryberrycone]

most the games i have on pro run at 1080p 60fps, for me thats how the generation should have been all along.

[@postscriptum8142]

Almost no PS4 game runs with 60fps.

[@postscriptum8142]

@Transistor Jump no, fact. This very same KZbin channel here has videos here that prove that.

[@postscriptum8142]

@Transistor Jump wow, you destroyed me, if I would care about that. The kid here, seems to be you, defending a plastic box, like it's important. Get a life, go outside, might help, might.

[@postscriptum8142]

@Cat Man yeah, this channel shows it, and yet these idiots lie. Not understanding the internet in a nutshell.

[@vandammage1747]

@Cat Man actually most games are 60fps. But almost every openworld game is 30fps. Almost every indie game is 60fps, every fighter, most racers, sports and shooters are 60fps. The majority is 60fps by far. Still too many 30fps games though.

[@mtoad]

Richard's laugh at around 2:20 is the best part of the video.

[@IndividualEleven3ABV]

Love the PS3 music visuals behind John!

[@e2rqey]

Wow! Richard actually found a use for the Radeon VII!

[@Lazo00100001]

Shots fired :)

[@RichardWebster85]

Loving these regular chat episodes.

[@JuelzBandana84]

Day 1 adopter to the Ps4 pro, this system has been a godsend for 1080p gaming on a plasma. Nioh, Nier, FFXV, RE:2, Battlefield 1, KH3, just to name a few

[@nikitos3558]

Oh yes, playing the pro on a plasma tv is the best way.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

plasma ew. even the best ones are bad today, because of gas leaving (huge issue with plasma). oled for me. hdr gaming is amazing.

[@SamTFLOH]

John, take care of your health please. You just went to open the door for the postman and you got out of breath. An improved diet + 2-3 days of exercise will help you a lot!

[@OseanBigshot444]

I know you guys could have edited out the post-man bit, but I am glad you guys kept it haha. :)

[@ngu0061]

Been sitting on the idea of getting a Pro since release and never went for it. The next generation is too close to make a purchase now.

[@SwordSaint27]

ngu0061 agreed

[@CaveyMoth]

I'm just hoping that PS5 has PS4 backwards compatibility.

[@michaeljohn5130]

@@CaveyMoth It does, it's already been confirmed.

[@InputArchive]

I'd love to see a similar topic, but revisiting the base Xbox One (not the S model) and see how it handles some of the most demanding titles that have come out recently.

[@rahulshankar2228]

what was the reason to reupload?

[@2drealms196]

Alfred Chicken backlash.

[@rahulshankar2228]

@@pandasdreamlygon Lol!!! I had to recheck my internet connection.

[@goofed86]

Copyright

[@MuscledRMH]

The PS4 Pro is marketed as a 4K machine eventhough it is not. Yes it is an upgrade, but it does not nearly match the quality of the Xbox One X. If Microsoft did a Pro upgrade, they would have been slaughtered by the media. I'm glad DF provides facts on the lack of the Pro eing a 4K machine. Still not a bad machine!

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

it supports native 4k/uhd so yeah it's a 4k machine. it had native 4k games running at 60 fps many months before xbox one x even launched and one x is too weak for proper 4k anyway which is why all games are 30 fps or upscaling. the first true 4k console will be the ps5 in a year.

[@stolenname94]

@@Dr.WhetFarts actually it is you who is mis Informed. Plenty of games run native 4k 60fps on the x plus the x is capable of using 4k assest which is usually only found on pc the pro gets 4k artifacts and jaggies edges with up scaling. If you really think about it the x would smoke alot of high end pc had it just had a proper cpu because it's gpu is pretty insane for a lil console. At best the pro is a 1080p up scale to 1440p very rare does it hit 4k and even more rare native 4k. Take shadow of war as an example the x is using assest the ps4 don't even get which you find on pc trust me the gap is much bigger between the x and pro not so such between Base to pro so I would just get a Base ps4 it's what I did.

[@bigjus3751]

@@stolenname94 I agree with most of that apart from the X beating a lot of high end machines even with a decent CPU. The X would being a decent Mid-range PC if it had a capable CPU.

[@yeahhbuddy3932]

Ps4 pro is so bad lol

[@salihunver47]

Waited for about 5,5 minutes for you to get to the main subject. Thank you...

[@Adreesuploads]

The xbox one x is a better option for cross platform games

[@Nedemis]

Don't use facts here. 😁 I was just going to say the same thing. It's nice switching the display option to 1080p 120hz sometimes. Especially with online shooters. 🤪

[@ccloak]

I think it all comes down to price. PS4 Pro has very good discounts depending on where you live. Microsoft is just not doing justice with their marketing to compete, I really want to try Xbox one X, but there is no deals like 300 dollar brand new PS4 Pro from Sony I am having right now. And it seems like Xbox is NA and EU thing. I would be like playing single player in online games if I play Xbox one in Japan.

[@ShionShinigami]

The PS4 Pro is a better option for Death Stranding!!! 👌👌👌

[@IronsWorks1990]

Not everyone can and want multiple consoles hooked up, if they have to pick one it has to be the Pro surely as you can play all them cross platform games anyway plus much more.

[@Adreesuploads]

@@IronsWorks1990 but if your someone like me who prefers better graphics and better performance xbox one x is where my money is

[@Paresistance1]

Do you still get the performance upgrades on the ps4 pro in 1080 with boost mode and super sampling on?

[@cookieface80]

Not with supersampling. But with everything else yes.

[@rockbrayn978]

Do ps4 pro have low fps on 1080p than ps4 slim?

[@Sweatedsiren895]

@@rockbrayn978 no, it always has higher fps than PS4 Slim when it output Regular 1080P without Supersampling, PS4 Slim barely even hit 1080P

[@ssabykoops]

I cant get used to Bloodstained running animation ,, still looks like she is running wearing rollerblades

[@dannonyogurt98]

Hey John, couldn't help but notice the panzer dragoon titles missing from that backlog of games.... If you think I'll forget you're mistaken, and if you think I'll forgive you give me far too much credit.

[@hawkmasters11]

One of the main benefits from the pro is the vr, and as they stated better 1080p . I have a pro since launch and love it. The upscale is not bad and I've enjoyed better looking vr titles but if I was to buy a pro now would not be worth it with the 5 looming around the corner.

[@bowi1332]

PS3: 720P PS4 Pro: 1080p That's how I see it. 🤷‍♂️

[@itwsntme]

The PRO also helps a lot in many PSVR games.

[@HiCZoK]

I don't want to sound like an asshole but: had 1080p 240hz gsync monitor and to say the truth, framerate is something I quickly forget about. The fact that I am running a game almost 240fps is something You get used to and stop noticing. Few hours with 60 or even 30 fps and I am used to those again. Ofcourse 30fps only with gamepad and 60 with mouse or gamepad. 30 is unplayable with mouse. Good motion blur does a lot of work to make 30 or 60fps look great. 24fps video looks smooth because each frame is a capture of time frame and posed static frame. And since Ive got 4k 27" freesync ips monitor... I am always in awe of 4k detail and antialiasing. Freesync with rtss locked to 58fps is doing amazing work too. No tearing, low input lag, no microstutter...Going back to 1080p ps4 games is ok but its more jarring than going back to 30 or 60fps from high refresh rate. Tldr: I quickly get used to framerates as long as they are stable but 4k is always nice.

[@RolfWrenWalsh]

The segment of John talking about his Twin Famicom is once again reminding me of passing up a JVC X'Eye back in 2002. I was on a mission to own every Sega console variant ever, and I desperately wanted an X'Eye not just for its two in one aspect, but mainly for its S-Video output. I had a chance to get one for $20, and it worked and ran PERFECTLY!!! But it was absolutely destroyed cosmetically. I turned it down due to the cosmetics, and I still hate myself to this day for not buying it. Ugh.....

[@donlee_ohhh]

Time to start the box opener knife or pair of scissors fund for DF unboxing videos?

[@bodybuildingbooks]

I got a ps4 pro 5 days ago.

[@Psydrre]

Congratulations. Take care of your PS4 Pro and it will take care of you!

[@kevv95]

Richard doesn't like messing around

[@ninj47]

I bought a ps4 pro second hand from my local electronics shop cex. It was like a hair dryer, so noisy. I got it replaced for another unit to only find out that it was the same in noise levels. Are all ps4 pro's like this? I know theres a newer model, but after 2 units already, I don't trust playstation and their fan speeds.

[@ucejuicegaming518]

My PS4 Pro is quiet I don't hear anything coming out of it. now my PS4 that thing is loud🙉

[@littlegloom]

It has a been problem with all ps4's since day one

[@bodybuildingbooks]

I got a ps4 pro 5 days ago and it runs quieter than my base PS4, which was the revision of the original model. Maybe you were just unlucky.

[@somnia3423]

yes it is fucking loud

[@kresimirmandic3807]

I got a PS4 PRO two years ago, initially it worked fine (silent) but got louder and louder over time to the point it has become unbearable. Did some research and it turned out I didn't take care of it properly dust & heat disperse wise (it was placed in a bad spot). I got it sent a couple of months ago for dust cleanup and thermal paste change and now it runs like a charm. The fans are slightly louder on demanding titles (which is understandable) but it is well within reasonable limits. Now when I play I keep it in an open space and cover it while I'm not using it.

[@VulturePilot]

With the PS5 coming in a little over a year and it having backwards compatibility with PS4, there’s no reason for a base PS4 owner to upgrade to the Pro model.

[@RobNomad]

VulturePilot but the pro has been available since late 2016

[@Gavin-Leo--uk]

That's a good point. I brought a base PS4 when it came out. The thing just doesn't work now. I'm hanging on for the PS5 now.

[@VulturePilot]

Rob Nomad yeah but it’s 2019 now, my point is that it’s not worth it now with the PS5 so close.

[@RobNomad]

VulturePilot it all depends on how much does the upgrade cost to you. i upgraded my base ps4 to a pro on day one and i’ve used it with a 1080p screen until last week, when i switched to 4k.

[@VulturePilot]

Rob Nomad that’s exactly what I just said. In 2016 it was worth it but not anymore.

[@userk2876]

Wait why the upload again, was is because of the postman :D

[@careca6547]

User K what happened????

[@EVPointMaster]

nope, the postman ist still in there

[@Immaustine]

Nice ending there👌

[@nikanddylan13]

As always, another great video. Thanks guys.

[@TheWolvesCurse]

all i want is to play Gran Turismo Sport in 1080p with a constant framerate that never drops below 30fps. i ordered a ps4 pro today, and i hope my demands will be met.

[@murtazataha343]

So should we keep super sampling on or off for 1080p monitors ?

[@GilerReview]

Off..also boost mode off

[@Deltax5]

Kinda sucks that anologue nt mini is sold out and going for overpriced on ebay.Looks like you got the gold one that had a cost of 5k hope you enjoy it, atleast it will last a lifetime. I just play on MiSTer and AVS with everdrive. Im happy. I grabed a ps4 pro but kinda regret it after hearing about ps5 will play ps4 games and will be like playing a remasted version with better loading times. Meh I grabed it with a good trade deal anyways.

[@augamr]

lol .... PS gamers got conned this gen

[@eznosnopes5276]

I sure feel conned playing all of these exclusives 🧐

[@ekopermana7150]

Wow, another desperated XBOX fanboy

[@billygunn7713]

@@ekopermana7150 you should see him on twitter, he loves taking L's

[@Jahranimo_]

The sudden mail delivery was hilarious.

[@cormano.]

Blazing Chrome is a awesome game. I'm Very interested in the next DF...retro?

[@peite7878]

Super PS4 Pro commercial. I prefer Dark Souls 3 on Base PS4 because of more consistent 30 fps compared to 30-60 roller coaster fps. But aside from DS3, most games provide a better experience on Pro. And you can play 60 fps DS3 on a budget PC. After selling my Pro before travelling abroad I will probably keep playing Base PS4 until we can get locked 60 fps in BC PS4 games on PS5

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

pretty much all games runs better on pro and pro have sata 600 interface and benefits much more from ssd. only pro does 60 fps in god of war and the game runs terribly in 30 fps mode. i would take 45-60 fps ANY DAY over 30 (with drops) because all models use vsync anyway and you won't see tearing.

[@hahaha4419]

why didn't you make it a 4k video if you're compraing image quality between 1080P and 4K?

[@symphony137]

I think because visual comparison is not really the main focus of this video. The game footage was most likely from videos they've already done and I'm sure they are in 4K.

[@hahaha4419]

@@symphony137 The thing is I don't see much difference between 1080P and 4K in this video apart from the huge FPS gap, 1080P/60FPS is good for shooting games, other types of games don't have to maintain 60FPS.

[@zlatkomiskovic7715]

Famicon this Famicon that...what about Ps4 Pro?

[@DJVEGAS1000]

Ps4 pro sounds like jet engine

[@MicPrime]

From my testing on several games like BF5, MGS5, Hunt Showdown i must agreed they just looks soft with SS option enabled.

[@jp-hiro7690]

Yes if only do 60 fps on 1080p on all of games !!

[@86RSJag]

Re-uploaded because the original title was too strongly worded and Sony were not happy.

[@kickstartavalanche]

Like DF Direct as a weekly video, if that's the idea!

[@JoeChip]

I’d ring the bell but John might think I have a package for him 😉

[@brokengames9020]

30 FPS master race.

[@Modiggidy790]

So if you are using a pro model on a 4K display use the 1080p when the resolution scales?

[@pizzagateisreal]

The ps4 pro isn't worth buying full stop.

[@postscriptum8142]

No console is worth buying.

[@coffee115]

No games, lol

[@goofed86]

PlayStation has the best games though

[@vandammage1747]

@@postscriptum8142 you have no games that's why you swarm console channels lol.

[@twistedoracle4555]

Worth is a subjective term

[@nessentialsunlimited]

So what TV would be better for a PS4 Pro owner looking for the best experience when playing a wide variety of games? Should I be looking for a 1080p screen or are there 4k screens that offer user good option to downscale to 1080p for the titles that benefit from that? Also, is there a list of games that play better in 1080p over 4k?

[@lemmy154]

Yeah

[@fer1356]

Are you going to make a video on RISE Race the Future on switch?

[@PartStupid]

Oh good... I have the Red Dead newer model that you suggest (though my hard drive died the other day so upgraded to a 1TB Samsung SSD... but I have been told the HDD they use are not the best so this is fairly common, plus I wanted an SSD eventually so it worked out). I still have a 1080p TV and I personally like the game to look good over super high frame rates so the Pro right now is perfect for me (especially since PS5 has no native forced supersampling like Pro does and lacks a native media player).

[@Wesmoen]

5:30 for the main topic

[@SalveMonesvol]

A 1440p output mode would be perfect.

[@MyVidMix]

I’m buying a future Tri-Console player their first PlayStation. (They’ve always been with Xbox & just got a Switch) I will eventually get them the PS5 & Series X. So not waiting for the PS5. Getting the PS4 now for them while they’re stuck in a city in hard lock down. There are so many great value “PlayStation Hits” games I’m sending them now before the console is bought plus I’ll throw in Last of Us 2 & Ghost of Tsushima. They only have a 1080p TV. Happy to buy Pro or Slim. I was all ready to go with the Pro, but the fan noise issue has got me really worried. Maybe it’s just best to get them the Slim and then when they get the PS5, that will kinda be their Pro, but hopefully nice and quiet. I’ve just got an image in my head of them chilling in their room getting deep into the story of Last of Us 1 for example on a Slim without all that Pro fan noise. With budget not a consideration (I’m not rich lol, but just putting a lot of resources into a family member stuck in lockdown) , am I crazy to choose the Slim over the Pro for them until getting the PS5 early next year?

[@jpesicka492]

Yeah I have a 4k TV and I only play The Last of Us REMASTERED (for the most part). I play on 60 fps locked instead of higher resolution.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

it's 1800p at 60 fps so almost 4k/uhd anyway...

[@jpesicka492]

@@Dr.WhetFarts it's not locked. It dips trust me. Keyword is "locked". 1080p upscale fine on my Sony TV since it's half the pixels. I should add this is for multiplayer. Story mode yeah I'll play higher res.

[@Buzz_1991]

RESIDENT EVIL 2 is also a game where Pro is a lot better than the Base PS4. Higher Resolution and stable framerate.

[@3_kids_one_shot726]

Would you guys recommend 1080p for FPS games like warzone on the pro

[@Ample17]

Does john live in Germany too ? :) Because i heard a "Dankeschön". What's the story to that i wonder, since he seems to be an english native speaker. Does anybody know ? :)

[@drummer7557]

I had a PS4 Pro because my Slim finally burned up and I have a very nice Sony 1080p TV that looks stunning with down scaled games. But I took the PS4 Pro back because I really didn't see a significant difference. Games like God of War Uncharted 4 and the lot all look fantastic anyway. Even on the base system. And on the pro some games like shadow of the Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider Definitive Edition, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, and some other third-party titles just didn't look that great. Some actually looked worse than the base system. I do love PlayStation but if you want to see a real difference get an Xbox One X. Even though the library may be shity, you still get your old 360 games, and even the third party titles that aren't enhanced get 16 X antiosropic. filtering. So some of the games I mentioned before look absolutely stunning even on a 1080p TV on the X. If I brought somebody in the room and told them I was playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey in full 4K they would believe me :-). Yes it looks that good and clear . The only thing I can say about PlayStation is there exclusives look better hands down than any enhanced game on the X. But I still wouldn't justify buying a pro.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

you must be blind. god of war runs 60 fps on pro and 30 fps on regular. day and night difference in smoothness and gameplay. tons of ps4 pro enhanced games lets you choose between performance and resolution. regular ps4 gets nothing, bare minimum graphics and 30 fps with dips.

[@drummer7557]

@@Dr.WhetFarts Yeah I know but I'm 44 dude. Doesn't really matter to me, as long as the game looks and plays great. Which every PS4 exclusives i've played has. ;o)

[@slckb0y65]

let's be honest, the PS4 Pro doesn't run any games in true 4K but maybz a couple vita conversion like wipeout, so you might aswell lower the resolution to 1080p with a better frame rate.

[@supergamer1870]

You done a video about this last year saying the Pro is a 1080p console

[@ItsAkile]

GOW Unlocked settings on PS5 with boost mode on Kreygasm

[@Suuhls]

Calling this bug infested mess Dangerous Driving a brilliant game is quite a stretch to behold, you can literally crash the game in every map, you can fall through map in next to every level and the AI is a mess. Also yes, the PS4 Pro is best served at 1080p

[@billclay2701]

most folks I know just plug it into the their tv and play. its a great system. look forward to getting one this holiday. pc gaming is only as good as its xbox exclusives it seems......unless you love strategy games and sims a ton.

[@fcukugimmeausername]

Richards hands actually control what his face and brain do, not the other way around.

[@roblayton3190]

Agreed. Looks awkward as hell. Like Edgar the Bug from Men In Black.

[@venomsnake6412]

he has 2 core per hands

[@batmangovno]

Richard is the type of man who would prefer a hand-crank Maxim over an M60.

[@WDeranged]

I only ever wanted my ps4 pro for 1080p gaming with a stable framerate.

[@Charles-hy6gp]

what if they stop selling 1080p TVs? its not ideal to use a 1080p machine on a 4k TV

[@Charles-hy6gp]

@MEanME who the hell gonna use a monitor for the PS4? Plus there are 4K monitors 1080p TVs wont be in the market in the future dude and thats why you gonna have to focus in resolution than 60fps

[@l3ugglebub]

Exactly! I finally chipped into the Pro because it was on black friday sale for $299 US. DREAMS for PS4 runs better on it and as far as I understand, so does VR (also a black friday acquisition). And I believe exceptional quality 1080P TV's plasma, LCD, OLED, QLED QDOT...will be around long after we're all dead. Just like you can find endless supplies of flatscreen CRT picture tube TV's for 1st and second gen gaming, for free damn near anywhere. Those TV's were several thousand new. Like the Sony and Advents. I won't be heading into 4k gaming any time soon unless it's on a PC. And that's only because of future upgradeability which consoles inherently lack. Just my .02

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

Graphics in 4K is what they selling these consoles on - but 1080p in 60fps is perfect on FullHD sets.

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

@Marko L Good idea 😀 Especially if they are still selling for sub £280 😝

[@jenesuispasbavard]

Remember when PS4 was the "1080p" console, not PS4 Pro? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[@kadermami3284]

DF 2017-2018: Glorious 4K With This PS4 Pro (mostly Upscaled):)) DF 2019: Is PlayStation 4 Pro Worth Buying For 1080p Gaming? DF 2020: Is PlayStation 4 Pro Worth Buying For 720p Gaming? No no no, when you advert. as a 4K console. Do not try so hard to sell PS4 pro. People are waiting for PS5 to come out. By the way, I have a ps4 pro. I bought it when it was first released (CUH7000) and I like it very much.

[@Charles-hy6gp]

it was mostly so the PS3 wasn't neither a 720p console because most of the multiplats run at 640p?

[@Charles-hy6gp]

@bejais well that what happen for being a cheap ass gamer Remember when people complained about the price of PS3?: -If PS4 wasnt underpowered, it would held back Sony´s profits like the PS3 but way better -Now that the PS4 is underpowered, it had to held back gaming its a hard decision to make, specially after the miskates they did with the PS3

[@arfanbashir1759]

kader mami DF 2017: Nintendo NX uses Tegra!!!!! DF 2018: The switch manages to pull good enough graphics though many games drop below 1080p DF 2018: While the Switch is vastly Underpowered it manages 720P hopefully DF 2020: Why the switch is gooood at 480P DF 2021: To run the switch at 360P is optimal

[@Sweatedsiren895]

If Regular PS4 Have No problem stay in 1080P, PS4 Pro won’t exits, Regular PS4 Is just a 720P Machine

[@IronsWorks1990]

To be honest I've benefited most from the Pro with a 4K TV despite it not being native 4K, 1440p checkerboard rendering still looks really good.

[@theclever3963]

Ironworks1990 yeah and if you google ps4 pro games resolution you'll see most fall between 1620p and 1800p with some checkerboarded to 2160p

[@vexthegreat9453]

Not really 1080p with better framerates is all i care about i use a 1080p monitor and i like it better then what i seen on a 4ktv console aint ment for it they shouldv worried about framerates not checkerboarding wannabe 4k

[@sugarhieroglyph]

@@vexthegreat9453 i agree. Performance is king.

[@IcyRhythmsthereal]

Why doesn't Sony allow an option to select 1440p on monitors?!?!

[@JerryFlowersIII]

Because they're mean. But seriously I know the pain. The unfortunate truth is that monitors are a smaller market share for ps4 users and 1440p is even smaller. It doesn't seem hard to do, most games already run at 1440p on Pro anyway. The only solution really is to a newer monitor; most modern 1440p monitors will accept and downsample a 4k signal.

[@terryyee4271]

Same reason Nintendo doesn't. These are meant for TVs in a living room.

[@hkoizumi3134]

Because they are closed platform. Options are for open platform like PC.

[@mbsfaridi]

Microsoft allows it, don't know why Sony still doesn't allow it.

[@carbonsuicidemtb1583]

@@terryyee4271 the Xbox supports 1440p and VRR, Sony are anti consumer

[@2drealms196]

Reuploaded because Alfred Chicken put a copyright claim on the video.

[@userk2876]

haha it was alfreds fault

[@celcius_87]

Oof, the Alfred Chicken jokes were awesome haha

[@__G___]

It was also getting a bunch of dislikes 🤔

[@CaveyMoth]

Alfred and the Fettuc?

[@peopleschampion922]

Digital Foundry showed their true colors of being Sony's fanbots

[@DigitalFoundry]

Sorry about that! Weird glitch on our side - it's the same video!

[@toastdtech3597]

Im telling your mom

[@simbin.]

If you already have base PS4 - better off saving $$ for PS5. Slim is also quieter than Pro, if that matters to you.

[@Darkstar18773]

A lot of people are not poor and can buy one right now and not need to save for anything. You have broke logic my friend

[@Imadeyourun]

@Hallison Michel Exactly. Played on base PS4 and PS4 Pro, and I really don't see a difference. At least not enough to justify getting a pro over the OG PS4.

[@SteelSkin667]

That's the best approach, even when it was new Pro was already a more attractive offering for people who didn't own a PS4.

[@thebossman80s]

SteelSkin667 does anyone know if the pro is just as quite as the slim when running in 1080p instead of 4k. Surely if the pro is not pushing 4k it’s working less so there’s less stress on the hardware therefore it should be cooler and quieter than if it was attached to a 4k tv. I really don’t want a noisy machine at the foot of my bed!

[@SteelSkin667]

@@thebossman80s In theory that should be the case, although in practice it probably depends a lot on the game.

[@TechGamesAU]

Why do you guys always laugh awkwardly when you say hi to each other at the start of a video?

[@HSPTheShow]

they're still a lil awkward since they made out at the company christmas party

[@NyneIX9]

Kind of awkward to begin with, so for some people it's funny and make the other person laugh. These aren't the kind of guys that are used to being on TV or camera, but that's just the kind of age we live in right now where these types of people who has expertise in this area can actually find an audience and following.

[@phant0mdummy]

lmao, for real.

[@goharderthanyesterday3935]

DylValentine LOL

[@Natan0393]

Xbox One X and PS4 Pro are the first consoles in history trully optimized for 1080p

[@TyJosh]

Xbox one X optimized for 4K...what are u talking about?????

[@mohamadnasmeer6311]

@@TyJosh Xbox one x and ps4 pro are a fake k consoles

[@oi118]

@@mohamadnasmeer6311 Red Dead Redemption 2, Forza Horizon 4 and other games are in native 4k on Xbox One X

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

I'm getting one just for the higher and stable framerate. Especially for the fact dark souls 3 got a patch for it.

[@xeraliZe]

Did the same today. No fucks given. PS5 can wait until next year.

[@edimarrodrigrove3377]

@Aputsiaq Lennert YEAH, BUT FOR HIM IT CAN WAIT FOR MORE ONE YEAR.

[@jsr6579]

@@xeraliZe that's so true, I'm saving for a ps4 pro rn. I'll enjoy as much as I can the ps4 until i played every single game that i like with an stable performance. The ps5 doesn't let you play every game you had on the ps4 and there's not that much games in there so I'll be waiting a couple years I think.

[@xeraliZe]

@@jsr6579 Preach. Exactly what I'm talking about. There's so many good games or hidden gems on the PS4. Plus, you'll have a smoother experience too. Don't regret getting a PS4 Pro one bit.

[@antzpantz]

MORE OF THIS NONSENSE PLEASE!

[@dkropelnicki9819]

I play my pro on a 720p display, haha.

[@Bcap222]

: (

[@gohanpcgamer]

We need a PS4 Pro Slim.

[@fredcrewneck]

Every paycheck take about $50 out and put away until you got about $600 saved for PS5

[@TheBrightjay]

fredcrewneck that’s what I do , be ready for it also I need to save for a 4K tv

[@michaelmyersplays4992]

@@TheBrightjay 4k TVs are cheap now too

[@teach9023]

@@TheBrightjay TCL

[@ThaBEN_NL]

Interesting. So PSVR is 1080P. Does this also mean that setting your PS4 Pro to 720P while using VR will improve your VR performance?

[@marksapollo]

So Sony still heavily advertise it as a 4K gaming console, yet it can only really manage 1080P.. says it all really.

[@michaelmayers3622]

It.csn do 4k depend on game. Same.with PC.

[@marksapollo]

Michael Mayers Their are only 10 that can manage it... at 60FPS and even then I do believe the performance isn’t smooth.

[@nhfyftytfstryfyrt399]

@@marksapollo there are more than 10

[@Handsomeartist]

got a pro on 1080p, play all the game a can in performance and I love it! God of war on performance mode was a game changer for me.

[@LucasSaturn]

@ 7:03, so, changing your resolution changes the rendering mode. Right, so what happens to performance if you select 720p? Does that just render at 1080p and downscale to 720p? Or is there additional performance increases to be had with lowering the resolution even more? Or, is it a separate option to the resolution option, and instead the supersampling option?

[@iMagic16]

game is rendered at 1080p still and scaled down. this has been tested before but don't have the link to hand. basically nothing happens

[@LucasSaturn]

Ah, thank you for that! That's what I thought would happen, but I don't have a PS4 to try it on. It's kind of a bummer, to be completely honest.... being able to run it on a tiny screen, at the best framerate would be a pretty neat novelty.

[@Ouail98]

Richard leadworse

[@Sabuuchi]

Remember when the PS3 and Xbox 360 were announced with Sony and Microsoft toting the possibility of 1080p gaming? It only took until 2018 for the XboneX and PS4 Pro to let people do it reliably on console. Wew lads.

[@Stoppskylten]

PS3 did have 1080p games though. No one ever said everything would be that.

[@aschraub9897]

"You know Alfred Chicken?.....Yeah I know Alfred Chicken" XD best part of the video

[@jaymzx2587]

The Surge was also a great 1080p60 game on pro. Loved it, also because of the fluidity compared to the Souls games.

[@jesseslack2089]

That and Surge 2 are fun to play!

[@thenightspydercollector8066]

I’d love to see more of what John gets delivered and added to his collection 😆👍

[@careca6547]

Play God of War on Pro in Performance Mode is an amazing experience! 🎮

[@someonesomewhere8658]

Is it 60?

[@retrosimon9843]

@@someonesomewhere8658 Most of the time yes with a dip around the bifrost temple area

[@careca6547]

@@someonesomewhere8658 It's unlocked, much smoother. And the Supersampling make the visuals polished.

[@im415again]

It'll play better on the ps5 I'd wait.

[@kevinstyle1107]

I prefer locked 30fps to unstable 45fps.

[@ClellBiggs]

What happened?

[@Kyoku_Ryuu]

Consoles could have 32 cores 64 threads CPU at 12GHz , 128 Tflops GPU , 2TB GDDR8 ram , SSD 50000 MB/s read/write speeds and developers will still be like "naah man , not enough horsepower , we make our games 30fps with drops at 20s"

[@michaelmayers3622]

Devs makeing their games on pcs to run on consoles basically. So not optimizing lol

[@cocobango2145]

I switched up and paid the difference. Totally worth it if you want good FPS on heavier games. I actually enjoy the games now.

[@nykraftlemagnifique]

The Pro brings nothing ! If you want the best on 1080P on console : XBOX ONE X with super sampling ! And if you just want to play some of the exclusive only solo games from sony, a PS4 made the job ! When you finish this games, they take the dust ! No interest to buy a Pro today ... only X can present an interest to be buy today ...

[@ekopermana7150]

Yeah2, i trust you XBOTS. LoL corporate slave 😆

[@vaidasspu]

what games xbox have gears of dogshit?