Ding Dong & Julian Discuss Being Exploited by Game Grumps (reupload)

[@gamerfly101]

Just to let everyone know, out of Ding Dong and Julian's wishes. Please don't go out and harass anyone mentioned in this video. Since Ding Dong obviously shows contextually in the video through his tone. This was obviously more of a rant/stress relieving stream where he wanted to get a lot of feelings off his chest. He obviously doesn't want anyone contacted, harassed, or made a huge deal from this stream. He also doesn't want to start anything or create drama. So please dont think of this much more than him blowing off steam and releasing emotions.

[@ItsJustAGuy]

Pretty sure Dingdong made a comment on Bowblax's video telling him to "fuck off for removing the context only to use as clickbait, this was resolved years ago just let it go"

[@EdgieAlias]

You say, giving the stream an incredibly misleading title and contradicting the story being told by doing so. You're the type that pushes Ding Dong and Julian to stop interacting with people online.

[@gamerfly101]

@@EdgieAlias 🤠

[@The_real_Gorgo]

​​@@gamerfly101you are not following their wishes by explicitly posting this video with a clickbait title and no context which dingdong SPECIFICALLY asked everyone to not do. You are not solving the problem, you ARE the problem.

[@gamerfly101]

@@The_real_Gorgo 🕺

[@darrenthetuber743]

"i cant be friends as a character" is the haunting realization, once a brand becomes too powerful, everyone eventually becomes an actor in reality

[@juicenozzle2575]

"fakes fights so people can't tell the difference" hurts my heart so bad

[@Spoomis]

I used to love Ding Dong and Julian for being funny men, but now I not only love them, but respect them for standing up for themselves and managing to endure all that.

[@notveryniceatall]

Ding Dong and Julian literally hate their fans lol you don't have to keep defending them

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Blud, go home, you're 3 months late.

[@roysifus2119]

​@TeamBelmont91 what do you mean? Did something happen?

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@roysifus2119 Get a load of the goober's comments that he spammed about 24-ish times all over the comments section here.

[@borbleborb4586]

DD&J: having a serious conversation Game: *O N D A G W E E N ! !* *B I G T O U R N A M E N T G O L F*

[@MegaDchamp]

Wow. That genuinely hurt to listen to, especially the ending. Jesus man, Ding Dong, Julian, wherever you boys are, whatever youre up to, i really hope you're in a better state than you were back then.

[@peternatorrr]

Thier streams are awesome

[@kelpocereal5077]

I think I heard dingus dongus on oneys instagram story a couple months ago where they were fishing together but idk if it was really him, I hope they're doing well

[@bendavis7169]

Well at least Chris and dingdong and Julian are on good terms cus in 2021 they played YIIK on Oneyplays.... This is so sad though poor dingdong.

[@michaelbullen3104]

DD&J are still friends with the bois but I’m pretty sure they haven’t seen each other since oneystays

[@thenerdwonder5327]

​@@michaelbullen3104 the distance will cause that. But as I recall, Oney and the crew are going to help them do like music for their game

[@michaelbullen3104]

@@thenerdwonder5327 damn it’s good to know that they’re all still helping on contributing to each other’s work, that’s a sick friend group

[@societalanchor]

They’re still cool, but they’ve totally left Oneyplays behind them.

[@michaelbullen3104]

@@societalanchor Yes but not the PEOPLE who run oneyplays, they haven’t totally left them behind if they’re still friends with them, they aren’t even the ones who caused any trouble

[@WillDaBeard]

My blood ran cold when Julian said “I’m not as nice as DingDong is”

[@highdefinition450]

i thought it was the opposite lol

[@francisconikotian2326]

cuts to Julians eyes glowing red

[@pyrotechnick420]

Imagine Julian wheezing with rage instead of laughter. It shakes me to my core

[@pastaroni8683]

@@francisconikotian2326*eye

[@WokeDEMOCRATShaveASPD]

It’s high emotion. Capable of great love but also great hate and disgust. Also I can confirm it’s real. I was told I had buttburgers and went through that system my school life. The problem is people these days don’t have much emotion and or don’t know what to do with it.

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

This is the first time I've heard that either of them worked for Game Grumps.

[@JorbyTinky]

The OneyPlays crew operated out of the GG office for a very very brief time, around 2015-2016

[@bendavis7169]

Me too 😢

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

Really? You don't remember gg & oney crew collabing pretty often for a brief period?

[@SRLovesPandas1]

yeah even into early mid 2017

[@someguy7819]

​@@hisaceinthehole3426a lot of oney fans came after ding dong stopped going on oneyplays

[@nahman3836]

i wish them the absolute best of luck, LA is fucking terrible man

[@JomasterTheSecond]

Yeah, just look at what the air did to Cory

[@2crazy738]

@@JomasterTheSecondAREMNIAN CORY WOOOOO

[@luci-dude]

Yeah, I lived in LA once for 6 years and it's basically sociopath central.

[@thegreatgonzales6813]

@@2crazy738🎵THEY CALL ME CORY. ARMENIAN CORY.🎵

[@TheWyman55_]

​@@thegreatgonzales6813 I *Gorilla Noises* *Gorilla Noises* *Gorilla Noises* *DK Sound Effect* hanging around

[@b1nary_f1nary]

We can take some solace in the fact that all evidence points to Chris being a good guy throughout this. Thank god

[@jonathan-si8xd]

How so? 😳

[@ronniewhitedx]

I think it was less of him being a good guy and more of him riding the fence. Getting involved in serious shit legitimately makes Chris uncomfortable no matter who it is. I could definitely see Chris joking about the whole suicide situation without understanding the serious implications of it

[@heeheehiii]

@@ronniewhitedxno he really wouldnt, atleast from what ive seen in a newer episode zach made a joke about dd and julian dying and he just shut it down but also i dont know these people in real life so idfk

[@squiddy1132]

@@heeheehiii which episode are you referring to?

[@DitzyBear]

@@heeheehiiiid like to know what episode this is if its real.

[@Glob-x7x]

This is the saddest shit I learned about. DD and Julian were hands down my favorite Oneyplays members. Always wondered why they left but I never knew it was this dark. Also, what did Chris do?

[@NoOne-vy1jr]

Wait did Chris do something? I haven’t seen any mention of him from what I’m looking up at the moment

[@dudecool7915]

Chris didn't do anything lol, he just respects his friends enough to not stir the pot, especially publically, about events from 6 years ago. he made a reddit post a few months ago talking about the yiik finale saying he wanted dingdong and julian to help approve it, and one of dingdongs last tweets was about the yiik finale so they're obviously not on bad terms

[@garybritt1483]

Yeah Chris didn't do anything, in that final episode of Kingdom Hearts 2 of the oneyplays channel, Julian and dingdong mentioned on that final let's play together saying that they were going to be going off to do other things. They left the channel because they wanted to pursue their creativity by making a new video game at that time. It was really sad to hear Julian tell Chris on that game saying, well it was fun I'm glad we got to play this game together one last time. Unfortunately them wanting to create something new and something everybody would love how to turn out so nasty and toxic. Even though ding dong and Julian are no longer on the internet, I wish them the best of luck and I hope for their mental health to improve after all this

[@jreedzz3737]

@@garybritt1483 Bro. Dingdong and Julian stream semi regularly on Dingdong's youtube channel @DingDongVGStreams They have a halloween stream scheduled for the 28th of this month

[@The_real_Gorgo]

Fuck oneyplays, dingdong and julian are my favorite people

[@Charmanderfan2002]

“They’re mad at you because you are acknowledging how they’re hurting you”

[@Hoerse]

Man Ding Dong talking about Matt's priorities really hits harder after the whole Magnum Opus thing I hope DD and Julian are doing okay wherever they are

[@patrickblakethesaint]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Matt has sort of proved his lack of caring about anyone but himself. Im glad I decided to look into all this today. I'm questioning a lot right now and I feel so bad for ding dong...

[@patrickblakethesaint]

​@@mrojo2761sounds like Arin might have been part of that as well...

[@maninthemask6275]

Wasn’t the whole super mega thing proven false?

[@johndudeman]

​@@maninthemask6275I think it's more about him refusing to take responsibility so to protect his own skin

[@MrFoxInc]

@@mrojo2761 Was this ever even confirmed? I don't remember DD ever mentioning who it was that made the "joke suggestion" and only ever saw bros on Twitter claiming it's the truth. Did DD ever say it was Matt and/or Ryan? Or is this just more misinformation being spread?

[@miah2400]

This sucks to hear, especially since I'm a big fan of all three: Game Grumps, OneyPlays, and Supermega. I knew there was some controversy behind Dream Daddy for a while now but never looked into it, I just chalked it up to being typical LGBT community drama nitpicking something small rather than this huge matter. It's so unbelievably unfair that DD and Julian couldn't speak up about this and when they did the people around them betrayed them like this. Pretty ridiculous that Matt cut him off like that too and acts like he's the "bad guy" in this situation. I know you commented saying you don't want anyone to harass anybody and trust me I won't, I do however wish Game Grumps and Supermega could step forward and acknowledge this instead of not bringing it up and just sweeping it under the rug as if it never happened. This ordeal almost cost DD his life, and ruined it in many areas. It's not something you just pretend to forget and go about your life like it never happened.

[@pyrotechnick420]

Wait what did Chris do?

[@connor48880]

Nothing lol He’s a good boi

[@The_real_Gorgo]

Game grumps was funny for a bit but now it's just dry and bland.

[@twilightsparkle75]

​@@The_real_Gorgointerestingly, the writing was on the wall with arin from the very beginning, in the nick guts episode, where arin gets actually mad and jon just thinks its a bit for a moment until asking "wait are you ACTIALLY mad right now?"

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

​@@The_real_Gorgo GG literally burned every bridge to people that kept them funny & entertaining.

[@darthyvardyreal]

Don't die Ding Dong

[@tStevester83]

OKAY I WON'T DIE!

[@GrizZ12xmiLUL]

@@tStevester83ima eat some pie

[@normanred9212]

Won't be a big loss, they had about 2+ish years of entertainment from them and they couldn't stand the fact that no one like dem bruces

[@TeamBelmont91]

​@@normanred9212Yeah, nobody's been wanting Arin and Dan around anymore, I agree that nobody's gonna miss them when they're gone.

[@milesholiman5597]

God. That ending part about the suicide attempt where Ding Ding started yelling. Despite the fact that back then I supported them and still do now, I can't help but feel like I was personally being yelled at. There is genuine hurt and emotion in those words and in a way, I'm glad he was able to get this out there. That these events genuinely had an effect on their lives. I've been there with trying to keep someone as a friend, or keeping my head down because I've been guilted into doing so. It sucks and you never know what it feels like until it happens.

[@feedathapa5420]

This dude was the editor for THEBESTGAMERS. Makes better comedy than everyone in that office combined

[@michaelbullen3104]

The dumbest people think they’re the smartest and that’s the sad reality of Ding Dong is he is surrounded by way too many morons half the time

[@Purin95]

Omg… I didnt know anyone remembered THEBESTGAMERS

[@notveryniceatall]

Ding Dong and Julian literally hate their fans lol you don't have to keep defending them

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Arin and Dan are using you for money, bro. They're not gonna read a single thing you've written here.

[@L3giT_Hax]

It sucks to know money twisted all those people to be essentially sociopaths. I cant imagine being actively gaslit for so long.

[@stellviahohenheim]

Money didn't twist anyone it just attracted them to come

[@normanred9212]

Lol you didn't listen to his hour long rant, money fame and power do NOT corrupt people it exposes their true nature. The whole "money and power is evil" is a cultural marxist communist social political attack by talmudists onto Whites and the West.

[@notveryniceatall]

Yet you support blatant narcissists and scam artists like DD and Julian, how incredibly not surprising

[@TeamBelmont91]

​@@notveryniceatallB o t .

[@ultrainstinctbroly4333]

I'm glad dingdong is still here, I loved the old trio of Oney plays, I laughed so much at many bits and enjoyed the idea that they were really laughing and joking about said bits, I am deeply ashamed in arin and Dan, the fact that arin isn't even real cuts me to my core, I laughed at arins bits, I enjoyed his rage moments, fake and real, but after this I might write a very solid argument to arin somewhere,

[@beefykeith48]

i completely feel you, man. it's so unfair that we were packaged and sold these nice personas while they were allowed to act like monsters behind the scenes. more than anything else i admire DD and Julian's strength and the ethical responsibility they chose to prioritise. yes, our image of people we used to love has been tarnished, but i suppose in turn we gain truth, and also the knowledge that DD and Julian are REAL people, rather than just caricatures.

[@ncsvv1754]

Cringe

[@RipScissor]

Ding Dong and Julian are just the most sane members of the GG/Oneyplays sphere.

[@charlesplante]

My 2 cool gay dads ruined by greedy L.A. bullshit.

[@seamantsunamii]

Idkkkk dingdong had a whole conspiracy theory about their pizza delivery guy trying to poison them..

[@anotherjuanbitesthedust9443]

@@seamantsunamii i mean the pizza guy did put the pizza on the floor and say “open it look nothing wrong here” after they complained that it was dropped, sus af

[@TummySausage]

​@@seamantsunamiihe blocked me on Twitter a while back when he publicly asked for a camera recommendation to film his Halloween stuff with. I guess he didn't like my idea of old compressed cell phone footage or my smiling friends profile pic at the time and decided to block me

[@fartquaviasdingle7876]

​@@seamantsunamiithe pizza made everyone sick that doesn't just happen on accident lmfao, it's def never happened to me

[@NoOne-vy1jr]

Thank you for posting this. I was truly wondering what the hell happened.

[@dogshake]

Maxx his mirth

[@truenorth4324]

I had no idea.... these two were treated so horribly. That sucks

[@Bro_duck3]

All of this just because they criticize a game.

[@TheQuaadFather]

Arin has the skin durability of month old chocolate pudding when it comes to even the most surface level criticisms.

[@Bergmanmalton]

It was? I'm so fucking confused

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

​@@TheQuaadFather i dont think arin cared. Im pretty sure he only did anything cuz his wife spazzed out. Doesn't make it better, but...

[@stellviahohenheim]

Nah the game was a red herring they saw how popular DD and Julian were getting from oneyplays so they wanted to sabotage it so that Dd won't quit

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

@@stellviahohenheim yeah maybe

[@Meaniepanini305]

Remember when this came out a year ago and nobody cared about the game grumps being homophobic and kept supporting them like nothing happened

[@Sonny377]

The sad part is, I know people in the LGBTQIA+ love and respect them... I told someone, "hey you realize what they did, right? Him: oh you know them it's not a big deal. Its sad.

[@Mrwizard-ck7oe]

How are they homophobic

[@Meaniepanini305]

@@Mrwizard-ck7oe dude did you watch the fucking video this comment is on

[@Koalalover70]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Sonny377As someone who’s part of the community, saying that it’s “not a big deal” makes my blood boil

[@haveagoodday7021]

Game Grumps continues to be performative. Preaches about being against racism, homophobia, etc. but the moment they're criticized, they gladly throw the morals they go on about.

[@jnerdsblog]

The GameGrumps had such a good thing going. And they just could not keep themselves from doing everything they could to ruin it. This makes me so sad. Thank you for this.

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

Absolutely true

[@notveryniceatall]

DD and Julian literally hate their fans lol you don't have to keep defending them

[@TeamBelmont91]

​@@notveryniceatallFor Christ's sake, go outside.

[@tastydoomtime8890]

​@notveryniceatall they can hate me all they want they're still funny

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Get dunked on, bot.

[@jeremypayne5078]

This should be obvious, but any respectable boss I've ever had always assured me that even though my work was needed, they would help facilitate my growth if I needed to move on to something that was better for me. Needless to say, it's hard to be in the opposite scenario, and I wish the boys all the best in life.

[@ProWalter2]

It honestly pains me to hear all the shit that happened to DD&J. Hearing Ding Dong's voice and how angry and sad he is downright depressing to hear. I hope everything works out for the both of them, truly.

[@notveryniceatall]

Ding Dong and Julian literally hate their fans lol you don't have to keep defending them

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Nice spam y'got there, bot.

[@Lou-hw7dd]

I can't wait for DingDong to return and take over the streaming and game developing market. I know he could if he wanted to, maybe he doesn't want to, but it would be a gift to me and all his fans, and I know we would support him, more than enough.

[@notveryniceatall]

Wow you sound almost as delusional as Ding Dong, you've even started making up embarrassing power fantasies for him.

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Oh gee, looky here, an apologist who ran astray from Reddit. Whoodathunkit, eh?

[@wiichannel0118]

I love how everyone in the comments agrees Los Angeles is a horrible horrible place. I'm glad the internet can come together on one thing.

[@StankTank-pe8fv]

Everyday I wonder how beautiful the world would be if the internet was never a concept.

[@stellviahohenheim]

People who backstabs have always existed even before internet. Actually if it wasn't for the Internet nobody would hear what happened to Dd and Julian

[@Angst-traum]

Greed and narcissism have always hurt people in the entertainment industry. There's a lot of people who have had similar or worse experiences. Like the guy above said, we would rarely hear about stuff like this without the internet.

[@thefreelancequeen]

Revisiting this after the Selen/Dokibird situation from the beginning of the year, and while it’s not all the exact same, there are definitely a lot of shared signs of danger in both of their situations with who they worked for

[@Looneyboy]

Who are those people lol

[@thefreelancequeen]

@@Looneyboy Selen Tatsuki was a vtuber employed by the company Nijisanji There was a lot of shit behind the scenes that led to an attempt on her own life irl, and that shit behind the scenes had her contract terminated Nijisanji has a lot of shady dealings behind the scenes and I wouldn’t be surprised if management talked in that weird way the anonymous people DD talked about did Hell, even fans of Selen said the “if she actually died it would ruin the company bullshit

[@Moowe291]

Ding Dong & Julian:Kings of the Let's Players. Kings. I miss you guys, but I'm happy I miss you guys. Because it means you're free. I truly wish I had powers to make you both feel better. But I'll always remember how you made me feel. Like I'm gonna die laughing. Haha I love you guys!

[@notveryniceatall]

Ding Dong and Julian literally hate their fans lol you don't have to keep defending them

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall That's all y'got to say, eh?

[@brreakfastYT]

I'm not to privy with all the inner workings of LA youtube drama, is the "Matt" they're referring to Matt Watson?

[@rrrondleman]

yeah lol

[@Visigoths]

Yeah he's a snake and isn't a true friend

[@shademan6070]

Wow.... never thought it was that bad behind the show.... respect for ding dong and julian for leaving

[@michaelbullen3104]

It’s not Chris who did anything or any of the rest of the boys it’s Matt Ryan Arin Suzy and a bunch of others who basically fucked up his life

[@steve_harvey1639]

is the matt he is referring to matt watson

[@uniroses]

Yeah

[@dariuszupan8145]

I always disliked matt from supermega, he has big rat energy

[@BIacklce]

just dont trust any media company that gets it start in LA

[@WC_553]

he hasn’t done anything shitty so you look absolutely stupid

[@zacksguitarhacks6390]

​@@BIacklcethat sounds antisemitic

[@BIacklce]

@@zacksguitarhacks6390 if only it was this time.

[@kronosdorma]

@@zacksguitarhacks6390How?

[@ChipIzumi]

Remember that Ding Dong also said the public narrative is almost completely wrong and "bizarro". If it were as easy as blaming the grumps he wouldn't have said that. Chris O'Neil could be a contributing factor in his harassment, I know it's a tough pill to swallow but that's the impression I got when listening to the full unedited stream that got taken down. Also (and even more damning of Chris) Julian out right said that he would "Never forgive the people that defended Shadman." It's possible Ding Dong made up with Chris years later, hence why they made videos in 2021.

[@chelronin7843]

chris has always said really shitty things so i wouldnt be surprised, he seems like that type of guy who is completely emotionally stunted and unable to empathize with people. But i really do hope they made up

[@octangula7914]

ding dong has said that chris had been homophobic or i guess just ignorant about him being gay in the past

[@ChocolateBar999]

Chris has never said anything bad about Ding Dong or Julian and they've never said shit about Chris either. As far as I can tell they still get on, Chris has even mentioned visitations where they never aired an Oneyplays episode and just hung out. Pretty sure they still play vidya off screen all the time too. Even before last year when they did the YIIK playthrough Ding Dong was on one of Chris streams. This is exactly what DD was talking about on twitter and the reason why he didn't want any of this to be reuploaded because people will make up all sorts of speculations based on nothing.

[@ChocolateBar999]

@@chelronin7843 DD said he was on call with Chris in this stream and Chris has gone out of his way to publicly call out Arin in front of millions as well as take digs at him on the show like the Dragons Dogma episodes. I do not believe for a second DD and Julian have any beef with Chris himself.

[@ChipIzumi]

@@ChocolateBar999 Thank you. I was hoping they were still cool with each other. Those old Oneyplays episodes are very funny and it'd be tragic to relisten to them if Chris were also being scummy to DD and Julian. I wish the 3 hour version of the stream were still available, though. It got real heavy(he talked about his mother being physically and emotionally abusive his whole life), and DD emphasized over and over that no one had their back in 2017, and that there was a false narrative that someone stood up for them. I hadn't seen the full stream but It's a relief to know he spoke with Chris before and after his tirade.

[@francisconikotian2326]

anyone have the original streams link? the full stream, DD said he would keep them up but I cant find them

[@thirstycrow6393]

I really hope this clip never blows up again, they’ve already been through so much

[@Twelve_G_Shogun]

I really hope that it wasn't Matt that made the suicide "joke" considering that him and Ryan both lost someone dear to them to suicide.

[@BlackIce4777]

Debunked

[@Yaksoup98]

​@@BlackIce4777doubtful

[@zhitchcresttail3387]

​@@BlackIce4777bunked

[@WC_553]

@@zhitchcresttail3387 proof, or are you just a tard?

[@dynamite3414]

I wonder if this is why Chris doesn’t talk to supermega or game grumps anymore

[@thecooldoge6343]

Most likely, oney cares about his friends

[@EsteemedReptile]

Does he not?

[@Reoko77]

All i know is at one point oney got escorted off the gg office and was banned.

[@whatcouldbeupdog]

Chris/Oney had a pretty publicized disagreement with Arin/Egoraptor regarding something with SirPelo, I believe? Essentially, and don’t quote me on specifics because it’s been a minute and the details are foggy, SirPelo made a joke in an animation that was kind of just, lowbrow, little controversial but not overly damaging or scathing. Arin blew up about it and made some comments about how the Newgrounds community are all just like edgy or something, and Chris responded by calling Arin a hypocrite and shit, because Arin pretty much got his fame from Newgrounds and that community. As far as I know, they haven’t interacted since then. Edit: I’d google it, I’m sure you’d find it if you want an ACCURATE retelling of what happened, but thats from what I remember.

[@EsteemedReptile]

@@whatcouldbeupdog So what you're saying is...Tomar is to blame?

[@StygianTheCandleMan]

Honestly just sounds like a bunch of spineless people.

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

Heartless, more like.

[@stellviahohenheim]

The tech world is full of these people, they have to play mind games because their skills is lacking and that's the only way they'll get ahead. Yeah u just need one per office to make the whole workplace feels like hell

[@blakebrown115]

goddammit I'm so f*cking glad i left the game grumps community like not all the time now i do watch older videos but that's just my ADHD but regardless and after learning what Arin and Lucy had done in the past can confidently say one day this will backfire in a meaning that will ruin his career i do not condone harassment as well please be respectful to those involved this is just my opinion at the end of the day

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

I cant watch them at all, not even the jon era. I mean, it's a de ad horse at this point, but Jon leavjng was the beginning of the end, cuz he was one of the few of the team that had an actual heart.

[@ghostwarriorcats]

what did arin and lucy do?

[@michaelbullen3104]

^typical example of game grumps fan, so clueless they don’t know suzy’s name, goes to show you what audience they target lmfao

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

@@ghostwarriorcats just read the description

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

@@michaelbullen3104 give them SOME credit. The fact that they came here with an open mind is miracle enough!

[@Mezzy..]

this broke my heart to hear, please take care of yourselves

[@satellizard346]

I wish people would stop uploading this clip out of context to make it seem like game grumps are solely the problem when DD has made very clear game grumps was not the main issue. People using these clips with super attention grabby thumbnails (not this one necessarily) while this dude is venting about past trauma is just gross honestly.

[@boblangford5514]

It is weird for the title of the video to include game grumps, and the video doesn’t mention them at all.

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

I'm still so confused as to what happened.

[@boblangford5514]

@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 Me too. Unless you follow these guys closely, it’s not easy to understand this. I don’t understand any of it.

[@stellviahohenheim]

Seems to me DD is ranting about how almost everyone he works with is a snake. They act like friends but the moment something bad happens everyone covers their own asses. These toxic conditions are usually caused by the boss because the culture of a company is determined by the boss.

[@kekula69]

i completely understand, but at the same time, dingdong wasn't getting paid for his fucking work until he brought up his pay. how the fuck is that not on gamegrumps?

[@joelburg8196]

I really hate hearing all of that, especially near the end him talking about how they were trying to convince him that suicide would be a “powerful tool” and being serious about that. What a fucking absolute degenerate and exploitive way to weasel in such a thought. Being so callous about telling someone that is pure evil. I really hope karma gets to a fuckton of those people who treated them this way.

[@Issen_Mode]

Not surprised considering all the dumb drama stories over the years about GG and SuperMega. When your whole schtick is that everything is a comedy bit including your personal life/relationships because that's your job now it's bound to get really fucking psychotic and worthless at some point. At least with Oneyplays there's a lot of just sarcasm and self awareness. Not fake enthusiasm for fans they would never interact with irl lol. Not to mention they all have other jobs they did or do outside of the silly let's play shit.

[@GarusPKMNchannel]

"On the green"

[@shoosh_kaboosh776]

does anyone know when this was initially streamed?

[@kermitthesis7474]

Jan 15th 2023

[@gamerfly101]

Had to be either January 1st 2023 or sometime a tiny before that. January 15th was the later "final" stream.

[@peterl3909]

Wait so who was telling Ding Dong to come forward and complain about Dream Daddy? Who wanted him to implicate Arin and Suzy; what the hell was happening?

[@nathh1998]

for what i understood some gg employes working on dream daddyt werent happy with the game creation as well (maybe by being overworked or just finded the game problematic as well) n used dd as the face of those complains and it went to shit bc he n julian were in the public eye (the doxxing incident), matt was the one who told him to write arin n suzy names in a possible suicide note if he ever gets to do it, matt told him he was ¨joking¨ but rlly how can u joke with something like that with someone who is suicidal??

[@MrSqueamishJam]

​its actually really easy to joke about and speaking as someone who has attempted it is a wild and humorous idea. Just because ding dong got hurt doesn't mean its fair to say "matt was dead serious and wants me to die" go outside

[@nathh1998]

@@MrSqueamishJam i had attempted before too so yeah i think matt was rlly out of pocket, u comfort ur friends u dont do shit like this specially when it was so soon

[@Agentshadling]

​@@MrSqueamishJamyou're actually an idiot

[@waterking74]

⁠​⁠@@nathh1998I watched some walkthroughs of dream daddy and the game did feels like a mess

[@TheWyman55_]

Earned the name "Brat Watson"

[@spiffiK]

I know dd didn't want this uploaded/posted because he doesn't want anymore drama, and I understand and respect that, but I think he needs to also understand that people NEED to hear this, because even if it can't prevent what happened to them, it can help others to know what to look for if they are ever in the same situation. It really is such a specific and surreal thing to experience I would have to imagine and most people wouldn't know what to do or how to react, and would probably get stuck just like they did. It's awful and honestly terrifying, like a twilight zone episode.

[@GrayD_Fox]

I just don't understand how people can be so evil, over a video game.

[@warhammerguy]

First time I am hearing about this and it is honestly heartbreaking to hear but unfortunately not surprising at all considering how they treated JonTron.

[@notveryniceatall]

Do you ever stop and think of all the things you could have done in the 11 years that you've spent freaking out because a guy left a webshow?

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Do you ever stop to think that you're not being productive with your life, my guy?

[@IsaacAutumn]

When they talk about Matt are they talking about SuperMega Matt?

[@ghostwarriorcats]

yes

[@DANBAN119]

Sooooo, was Arin involved at all with this? Because I see a lot of people blaming him for all that happened to them and it all sounds like a lot of behind the seens stuff that never made it to his ears? He refers to "they" a lot but he rants a lot for me to follow everything on a single watch.

[@notveryniceatall]

The 15-year-olds on reddit will always look for more reasons to portray Arin as history's greatest monster. Worse yet, they'll do it while vehemently defending blatant narcissists and scam artists like DD and Julian.

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Boo hoo, copypasta.

[@SS-op9wt]

Dingdong's own words, Arin had pretty minimal involvement and wasn't doing anything malicious. Don't think he was directly apart of Dingdong getting blacklisted or anything. Seems more like he could've done something or should've been more aware of what was happening, considering he's sort of the CEO/boss of his own space. It was ignorance for sure but for some reason people wanna point to him because he's the figurehead of his company.

[@Z3R0NU11]

@@notveryniceatallas a fan, Arin is pretty objectively a bad person and a racist

[@xbmpr]

Matt at this point has had so many people say so many bad things about him that I do believe he is a pretty bad person. Self-centered, two-face, manipulative, and that’s just from like one dude. DingDong, TwoMad, And all the Lex stuff even if it isn’t as bad as it was reported, he has a track record now. “SuperMega is my Magnus Opus” probably was true. Who knows about Ryan, he seems like the quiet follower sometimes.

[@J0Mamaa]

What happened with him and TwoMad?

[@saystarz]

Sorry to hear that DingDong and Julian but that's a part of life. People that are meant to be there will stay in your life, and people that aren't are just there for the journey. AND like Dingdong stated its in the past and he HAS moved on from it then. Suicide is no joke and if a person told me the "Wouldn't it be funny.." while I'm in that state of depression is a BULLY you can't so no to that because your invalidating someone's feelings and their thoughts with your own words. Hope DingDong and Julian get work now since this is out on the interwebs.

[@Colonel_Mustsard]

Honestly I'm rather surprised that people are shocked about GameGrumps. Yes they seem happy together and have fun but the whole Danny being a creep thing was swept under the rug so it's no shock this BTS conflict isn't known. Seriously though, Grumps are a company - not just some friends recording video games on a couch. For a second just try view this objectively and see that from Arin's standpoint he needs to be successful so all the people working for him get paid. It is unpleasant and unprofessional but I would expect no less from a media company in LA..

[@Blackenedwhiplash]

glad someone else mentioned about Dan being a creep. I remember when all that came out and I was expecting Dan to get cancelled but then nothing happened. I never really got into Dan-era Grumps so I was out of the fanbase by then but I asked friends of mine that were still obsessed with Game Grumps about it and they blew it off, they were just like "no that was fake" and when I asked about the videos and stuff that had been leaked at the time they changed the subject

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

Actually, im gonna have to defend Dan on this one, despite absolutely despising everything about GG. It turned out the girl that gave the accusation was 19 at the time, and wasn't what it was made to be. I forget what channels reported on it. Maybe it was hero hei? Gg maybe bad, but just not for "that" reason, dan included.

[@Colonel_Mustsard]

@@hisaceinthehole3426 the point I was making is about how it was barely addressed & swiftly erased. It’s validity is irrelevant to my point.

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

@@Colonel_Mustsard really? Cuz I remember it being big news around youtube at the time. And I attribute the swift dealing of it, being that false accusations are so commonplace now, that the folks that made up their mind that he was innocent/guilty didnt care. GG is smallfry now. My friends ran with the anti dan story, then forgot about the whole thing soon after.

[@Colonel_Mustsard]

@@hisaceinthehole3426 it’s a little weird how in the loop you are for someone who despises everything about Game Grumps. This happened years ago, swift dealings now should have no bearing on something that happened nearly a decade ago. If they made statements about the accusations then where are they? There’s nothing on the KZbin channel pertaining to any of the list of accusations against Dan & Arin

[@hmmm.74]

it doesn't matter what industry you are in, LA will fuck you over big time

[@karnagekarnival5127]

I think its wild that this "drama" is just this weird Shadow that alot of people and also no one knows about. I guess GG and Supermega just managed to attract the exact perfect storm of an audience. The majority are reactive but performative so the hypocrisy of ignoring this kind of crticism or defending them is totally plausible. I do think Digdong is a bit extra at times, just like i believe that of Lex. But its interesting that the concept of Matt being more interested in a career than in human connection appears in both issues even though otherwise theyre quite different. People talking about "well more would complain if GG or Supermega were really that bad" dont seem to grasp that what DD and Lex described are subtle actions or lack of actions that cause the problems. These subtle things likely go over many people's heads, or they dont amount to much for most people to have an issue. People dont understand what the problem even is, much less the little tidbits that paved the path. I dont think anyone in Supermega or GG is EVIL, but they do seem to be a bit callous or fake in a way that would make people who are very genuine uncomfortable (not talking about Lex because shes sus, i mean like DD) but many hollywood clout chasers see as the norm. Thats why no one else has an issue, its just like four people that had the closeness and emotional intelligence to notice there even was an issue.

[@MochaRitz]

Perfect comment in a sea of hyperbole

[@MachkaMan]

Man i can relate heavily. Sounds exhausting as fuck. Had no idea. People really are very unaware and uncaring of whats around them. Feeling like your words never existed amd youre on a neverending carride amd the doors are locked. I hope they are okay

[@stellviahohenheim]

Crazy people exists and their goal is to create nonsense and make everybody's work 100x harder for no reason

[@hinadori5491]

Explain it to me like I'm five

[@user-jd9wb3gx1z]

Gamegrumps bad oneyplays good

[@beefykeith48]

@@user-jd9wb3gx1zgame grumps bad ding dong and julian good ***

[@user-jd9wb3gx1z]

@@beefykeith48 thats what i ment :p

[@GriffithFromBerk]

Ding dong and Matt used to play toys together but Matt moved schools and didn’t wanna play toys anymore. Game grumps are the mean kids who sometimes do nice things but then knock your sandcastle down and tell you it would be better if you didn’t make more sand castles

[@boblangford5514]

@@GriffithFromBerkWho is Matt?

[@franken_punk]

Really goes to show you can't trust anyone nowadays. I wish DingDong and Julian the best

[@notveryniceatall]

Ding Dong and Julian literally hate their fans lol you don't have to keep defending them

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Arin and Dan are using you for a quick buck and you are too wrapped up in your fandom to realize it. Shame.

[@car_autist_9000]

Dingdong should listen to some Charls Carroll fr

[@Cajaquarius]

As much as I like Ding Dong and Julien, it sounds like neither was ready for Los Angeles culture and corporate life. That is fine. No shade on either - it is hard, high pressure, and not for everybody. I am glad they have found a nice base of medium energy fan success on Twitch. The thing with Game Grumps is that they likely aren't all that bad to work for. If they were we would be hearing multiple stories like this coming out of the business. Former employees having a huge Twitlonger about it. Compare to Channel Awesome which, Doug seems nice, sure, but he had no idea how to run production and was ill prepared for running a company. No catering for shooting in the Mohave for their little movie, no understanding in how to run sexual harassment complaints, and so on. Thus almost every producer from the late 00s has horror stories about how bad everything was when working under the banner.

[@cyceans]

Just bc a thousand ppl arent running out of the company doesn't necessarily mean the company is "not that bad" or isn't shady at least. And it doesn't negate their OWN experiences with the company either. but sure please give them fake support while blindly praising their former employment

[@haveagoodday7021]

Harassment isn't "part of corporate life" its a violation of basic worker's rights. Why do you think HR exists?

[@Praecosmile]

I never knew about any of this, deeply regretting buying DD years ago and glad GG fell off for me. Wtf.

[@charlesplante]

I...had no idea. Im sorry this shit happened.

[@EsteemedReptile]

Funni boys. Good boys. Hope they're thriving.

[@notveryniceatall]

They openly hate their fans and y'all still support them, what a shock. Delusional people stick together.

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall And yet your delusions have made you stray so far that you decided to whine to multiple comment reply chains because you were too bored to actually do something productive with your life. Seek help.

[@EsteemedReptile]

@@notveryniceatall Baby gonna cry?

[@ricebix]

I don't really understand, I need some context. What was actually stopping them from leaving with what DD was saying at the start? Were they under contract or like on the lease at the place they're saying or something? I don't know the whole story but from where the clip starts it sounds like the only thing stopping them was just other people telling them to stop?

[@TheQuaadFather]

They were under contract with game grumps doing their editing as well as collaborating with Chris for OneyPlays, the inability to leave seems to suggest Arin is a giant baby dick when it comes to deadlines and doesn't take humanity into consideration, so consider that they were not only doing long hours recording things with Chris, but then they immediately had to go edit whatever other BS game grumps was pumping out at the time and had to pay for an apartment in LA so if they needed to do other things besides edit or had other obligations Arin would threaten to cut them off because I'm sure Arin just thinks it's "all about business" Its actually why I've come to despise game grumps, they have become a serialized money grubbing faction of elitist snobs and I'd wager dollars to donuts their managerial practice of keeping their editors in financial shackles hasn't stopped just because DD and Julian left to form their own company

[@Altaku84]

​@TheQuaadFather wait what? Did either of you watch the video? DD expressly said it was because everyone in the company was putting pressure on them that their actions affected everyone else and that people were worried they were going to leave, but not talking about it with them. Why did you suddenly go off on arin like he was the problem, when he isnt even referred to directly once? I'm not even saying you arent correct, I just don't know where in the world you got this take.

[@lilc1229]

Matt from super mega? Or a different Matt?

[@rogue5407]

Matt watson from supermega

[@NeVerKnowFFS]

​@@rogue5407Matt what? My son?

[@Dayglodaydreams]

Big Tournament Golf in the background is really distracting.

[@M30W3R]

Neo Turf Master is the perfect background noise for emotional talks, you gotta admit it

[@WintedTindows-x7p]

No hate to either of them, but imo Oneyplays has been way funnier without these guys.

[@Z3R0NU11]

Lmfao

[@Bacxaber]

Am I the only one who hears the fnaf scream when the golfball gets hit?

[@thesupernintendophile7404]

Sir, please take this video down ASAP. DD and Julian demanded several times throughout the stream that they didn't want this to be kept up by anyone since it would result in people using it as ammunition for causing harm. Show some respect for their wishes; they just want to live their lives and make their games in peace.

[@opticfloyyyd]

they streamed it, theyre not babies. Pepole have a right to know.

[@thesupernintendophile7404]

@@opticfloyyyd The whole point of the stream was that it was a vent. It was never supposed to be shared around by people in this way. Leave them alone.

[@SkelNeldory]

​@thesupernintendophile7404 Liar. Streaming is public, and nobody does it because they want information to remain secret. Liar.

[@thesupernintendophile7404]

@@SkelNeldory Like I said before, the stream was done as a vent; exclusively for people tuning in at the time to the whole thing so that they understood how people using them as weapons in a petty controversy was hurting them and that spreading it around to the general public is pointless, doesn't help and only makes things worse for them. They specifically said to make sure to convince anyone doing these reuploads to take them down, and that's what I'm doing here. Quit name-calling, kid.

[@kingstarscream3807]

@@thesupernintendophile7404 So then you will know the information and others won't? How is that fair to others who haven't seen it? You think you're more deserving of the gossip?

[@Mountainplsdo]

What is this even about? It can’t be that they criticized the big gay guy video game. Is it?

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

That is literally what it all stems from.

[@normalguycap]

I knew that Game Grumps were always trash and had been saying it for years but no one listened to me. Ding Dong describing human drones. Soulless corpos. I commiserate with him.

[@KrodaStagg]

It was interesting to see Arin suddenly getting mainstream attention and minor voice work in cartoons right after he dropped Jontron and didn't defend him when the Cancel Club was trying to ruin his career.

[@cyceans]

​@@KrodaStagg "cancel culture" and it's a literal self revealing racist we're talking about

[@Purin95]

@@KrodaStaggwhat are you even on about

[@ggggg77273]

@@Purin95 he's on about jontron stating the irrefutable fact that black people cause more violent, especially gang related crime than white people and apparently saying obvious things makes you a racist!

[@notveryniceatall]

"I've always held fashionable beliefs since recently"

[@Dayglodaydreams]

Oh my god, Aaron and Suzy did that? What assholes?

[@notveryniceatall]

The 15-year-olds from reddit will always look for more reasons to portray Arin as history's greatest monster. Worse yet, they'll do it while vehemently defending blatant narcissists and scam artists like DD and Julian.

[@TeamBelmont91]

@@notveryniceatall Anything's possible if you lie like you do, my guy.

[@master-dukecuthbert5061]

Kingdom hearts has been the death knell for the only 2 lets players ive ever liked 🤣 Oney plays Two best friends play. RIP homies 😔

[@javkiller]

It's the fucking curse man. Sure fire way to kill your channel.

[@ghostwarriorcats]

what drama was matt , julian and ding dong going through ? with dream daddy? i dont get it

[@theotherjared9824]

This is the most concise way I can put it. DD and Julian had some harsh criticisms about Dream Daddy being insincere pandering. Certain individuals with influence within the company made their lives hell for essentially stepping out of line while others did nothing to intervene. It culminated with a suicide attempt, and some people DD thought he could trust told him that him being dead would make some people they hate look really bad. The two realized the entire organization was rotten to the core and just cut ties completely.

[@Mrwizard-ck7oe]

So basically they were being whiney bitches and got bullied for it?

[@Looneyboy]

@@Mrwizard-ck7oeno

[@chazaiya]

when was this stream from? this year?

[@gamerfly101]

Had to be either January 1st 2023 or sometime a tiny before that.

[@giantturd5157]

​@@gamerfly101wasn't this like 5 years ago

[@zhang6754]

Sauce?

[@Loop48654]

Which Matt are they referring to?

[@gamerfly101]

Matt Watson from Super Mega

[@kailiciousthumbsup]

@@gamerfly101 noway

[@kailiciousthumbsup]

@@gamerfly101 i doubt that

[@kailiciousthumbsup]

@@gamerfly101 its matt mercer

[@gamerfly101]

@kailiciousthumbsup Really? Im not saying you're wrong, but I didn't even know they knew Matt Mercer. But im sure it's Matt Watson since they talked about the subs incident, which was donated from Matt Watson. And they refer it as the same Matt throughout the video.

[@etasjo]

8 years

[@oakwoodboys1]

There talking about Matt Watson right?

[@michaelbullen3104]

Yes Matt is a truly disgusting human being

[@saret4647]

​@@michaelbullen3104 how do you know, I don't like Matt so I'm not trying to defend him but I wanna know why you think it's him

[@michaelbullen3104]

@@saret4647 Well it’s obviously not HIM who caused all the issues but he sure as hell didn’t help at all and if anything I’m just kinda more pissed at Matt than anything because I could always tell he was this actual douchebag by the way he talked that he was gonna do something awful one day

[@helpfulplaylists3933]

Look at the description.

[@TeamBelmont91]

I wish nothing but the best for DD and J, and I hope maybe someday they and Chris can get together for a good laugh, or just to reconnect in some manner. ...Arin and Dan, however, while I could say the utmost worst and wish the worst unto them, all I can say is that karma's an unforgiving, vengeful force that is only taking their time and building everything up to crash unto them at the right, yet most unexpected moment, and when it does? The only fame that GG will ever be remembered for in the records of history is infamy at the moment of their disastrously unceremonious and destructive end.

[@Oisin14]

Are Dan and Arin the perpetrator of this whole ordeal? Apologies I haven't quite understood whom started this.

[@bjcantrell1990]

@@Oisin14Technically arin and suzy started this crap, and the rest of gg and supermega followed suit.

[@Oisin14]

@bjcantrell1990 thanks for clearing it up, very unfortunate, I'm an avid game grumps fan

[@Croter8ment]

There's no such thing as karma.

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

​@@bjcantrell1990really? I heard it was Suzy & ninja Brian that started it.

[@daguy5000]

damn. i can only imagine what other dirt they have

[@Leonitys_]

one thing I am curious about is how/what Oney and the other guys thought about all this?

[@spimpsmacker6422]

I'm imagining none of the members of Oneyplays or Sleepycast are making direct public comments about it simply out of respect for DD and Julian's privacy.

[@Dan-ih6ns]

I’m guessing they agree with DD&J. when they left that was kind of the end of seeing matt and such. but dd&j returned for a little and super mega hasnt

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

​@@Dan-ih6ns apparently Chris has lambasted arin online multiple times. Thats what people in comments are saying at least.

[@raging100]

I literally hated Matt for no reason when he is in others videos. He just seems so fcking fake as a person and now I know i was right thanks to this video lol

[@jonathan-si8xd]

supermega’s thriving more than ever before now, cope lil bro

[@kazumpet720]

@@jonathan-si8xdMatt’s alt account

[@WC_553]

@@kazumpet720 god you sound insufferable and obnoxious 💀

[@jonathan-si8xd]

@@kazumpet720 Yeah i’m matt 😈

[@notveryniceatall]

"I've always known this person was bad, I just chose not to announce it until I found out I'd be congratulated for doing so." I've seen this comment a million times. If you really cared about DD and Julian then you wouldn't be doing this blatant posturing. Get lost.

[@JC-jm9wy]

I don't like how this is being spun. DD & Julian are angry about how the office treated them for bringing up a professional concern about the Dream Daddy project and how the joke will land with actual gay people, as it likely did with them. And they're right, the office shouldn't have treated them like that. I'm sure in that time, nobody in the office even had a clue how this could be an issue, so it probably came off to them like people trying to be melodramatic and starting shit. But in typical twitter fashion the narrative being crafted out of this is "Game Grumps are anti-LGBT!" People, these are comedians. All of this is about is a barely-risque joke in a time where FAR WORSE was all the rage, and the office misinterpreted the concern as them trying to tear down all the work they did on the project, all because they couldn't take a joke. And that's where the office misinterpreted them, because they clearly can take a joke. It was supposed to be just a professional concern raised based on the slights they probably felt. But in typical comedy sphere fashion, when you stand in the way of a comedian and his joke, there's gonna be problems. That's not an excuse, that's just the reality of the comedy sphere. But don't spin DD & Julian's message either, it's not about large-scale LGBT or communities or any of that, all they were talking about is how they were misinterpreted and mistreated once they brought up a concern, nothing more. Basically, this is yet another nothingburger. Stay classy twitter.

[@keebard5655]

after the most recent SuperMega controversy, im getting the vibes it was definitely matt that said that shit to DingDong at the end about the note, lol..

[@WC_553]

literally how so?

[@theldapperapple2382]

None of that controversy was true. It was proven to be an attack on Matt and Ryan. I'd watch a video on it. It's wild.

[@thefreelancequeen]

@@theldapperapple2382Don assaulted Lex and Matt didn’t handle it as professionally as he should have, that much is true.

[@rollingfinn2044]

​@thefreelancequeen even that is he said she said at this point and both parties have admitted to lying.

[@WC_553]

@@thefreelancequeen you make it seem like it was all matt’s fault and his career should be ruined

[@wuvumgywgy]

7:48

[@sgtstr3am785]

I always knew Suzy was a snake.

[@gamefan6219]

No she wasn't.

[@Nilruin]

@@gamefan6219 Gotta love people hearing someone say something completely outrageous about someone else and immediately jumping onto the cognitive bias. Bet this dude is an incel and just hates women because he's terrible with them. Bet.

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

​@@gamefan6219she was literally one of 2 people that started the witch hunt against dd&j.

[@VelvetAura]

​@@gamefan6219suzy is probably the fakest individual in that whole camp lmao

[@ekahnoman7331]

Sometimes you can just tell by looking at them And Suzy screams that 😂 Arin isn't much better

[@MoonShire]

Good lord, the entertainment industry is just a bunch of phony’s

[@seamantsunamii]

Rewatching everything.. ding dong definitely seems beyond paranoid

[@hisaceinthehole3426]

What has he said that wasn't believable?

[@JayTohab]

I'm glad I finally know.

[@Nilruin]

I'm not saying they're full of shit, but it's kind of weird how pretty much every single person to work for the Game Grumps has left the office amicably and these guys are the only sources of drama I've seen out of ex-employees. If anyone has a source from one of the "group of people" mentioned in the story or from any of the employees that were asked to keep quiet about the whole situation, I'd love to hear some corroborated stories on this matter. If there really were multiple people involved in this issue, I'm sure one of them has broken the silence by now, right? Else this seems like complete nonsense and just the ramblings of an ex-employee, unfortunately.

[@JayTohab]

The only concrete example I can think of is ProJared, but even then I think it says less about specific people and more about GG's policy of cutting ties with all controversial figures. Which kind of makes sense, as interpersonal drama exposed online will basically always be "he said she said" stuff, and Forum Politics would never reach an acceptable consensus. Some reconciliation would be nice for catharsis, but basically everyone's got some kind of dirt. It's why I don't really care to boycott, with one exception.

[@AggressiveBugFan]

i think thats fucking stupid

[@AggressiveBugFan]

@@sunalime and that they all know not to speak about it because they don’t see any reason too. especially since they don’t want drama on their part to deal with especially since they would be absolutely proven wrong with any rebuttal they provide.

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

@@sunalime I get that, but then why even talk about it. I'm sure he was frustrated and just wanted to get it out there for chat I guess? But then people just start speculating

[@RNAnimations-gt8tf]

you did not understand what dd was saying if all you got out of it was "hurr durr game grumps bad"

[@oui2611]

DD sounds exactly like the unabomber

[@RurouniKalainGaming]

This is why we love Dan and not Arin. Dan I bet doesn't know about this shit.

[@NathanSylbreon]

I'm pretty sure Dan sees what Arin does but he's probably scared Arin brought him onto the show and could remove him so Dan sits there quietly while Arin does what he wants

[@anotherjuanbitesthedust9443]

doesn’t dan keep getting caught texting newly 18 year old fans

[@earlykyler2165]

@@anotherjuanbitesthedust9443maybe weird, but not illegal so 🤷‍♂️

[@DoomKid]

@@earlykyler2165 pft what? Who cares if it's legal if it's creepy and seems predatory

[@earlykyler2165]

@@DoomKid the law, unfortunately