I'm definitely gonna need more high voltage testing :D
@pasikavecpruhovany77773 жыл бұрын
16:07 self-extinguishing design!
@ianhosier40423 жыл бұрын
The worse phone charger I ever had contained one rectifier diode, one resistor, a capacitor, a 5v zener and an LED. Needless to say there was no isolation and no fuse and the sleeve of the USB was live!
@deanagoes27913 жыл бұрын
More dangerous than electric chair 😂
@Flopster1012 жыл бұрын
Literally the bare minimum
@schaltnetzteil49511 ай бұрын
That's a real death trap.
@ianhosier404211 ай бұрын
@@schaltnetzteil495big clive did a rechargeable camping lantern where the metal case was live when it was plugged in to charge!
@Electronichub_058 ай бұрын
Capacitive dropper? That's dodgy lol
@stefflus083 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic sequence of failures, fully as expected. So rarely caught on film, happening slowly, and also narrated to top it off. Beautifully done!
@ohanneskamerkoseyan31573 жыл бұрын
16:02 The electrolytic capacitor doubles as a fire extinguisher :D
@Motoralbi3 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same hahaha!
@mernok20013 жыл бұрын
Some capacitor electrolytes are actually flammable,especially the old ones that contain probably boric acid and have a green flame.
@cheekibreeki9043 жыл бұрын
EVEN MORE VOLTAGE has a bit of the same energy as EVEN MORE SÄLT. A bit.
@pojcharapoltosukowong3 жыл бұрын
The reason that cube shaped chargers seems to be popular is that, these are a clone of Apple's US 5W charger. Of course the genuine 5w Apple cubes are much safer. :)
@raspberryjo3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure?
@pojcharapoltosukowong3 жыл бұрын
Well, atleast from what I saw in several teardowns, it seems to be much better engineered with lots of safety in mind. I also had a few of those cubes since the day of iPhone 6, and it still works to this day.
@Goodmanperson552 жыл бұрын
@@raspberryjo It's safe and outputs one of the lowest ripple DC. It's not necessarily the best of the best but it's up there in terms of quality. It still has that tell-tale voltage drop as you near the maximum rated current much like most other chargers. There are a lot of tests on the internet comparing popular chargers and the 5v Apple cube is a common mainstay in the comparisons. It's been proven.
@lukabread40992 жыл бұрын
I had one apple cube and it just let smoke out and stopped working
@dunderdee2 жыл бұрын
i have had 3 apple charger 1 5watt it exploded overnight another 5w it was a chinses fake also exploded a ipad 10w it also exploded I opened them up they were pain to open inside i got exploded capacitors now using a Samsung charger for years
@JamesBrown-ux9ds3 жыл бұрын
This HV-test only showed one thing: This board was quite safe. Being able to take about 1700 volts (short term) instead of 230 is an achievement actualy. 7x the net tension is quite good. And it was not an airgap between too close circuits on the board, but a piece of equipment, that failed, a piece with was probably rated for 500 or 600 volts only. Surprisingly good!
@sergepetrov85982 жыл бұрын
But still you don't want to entrust life of somebody unexperienced to this gadget.
@TheSpotify95 Жыл бұрын
But a decent Class Y1 capacitor, which is the correct one for that application, should be rated for several kV, so for it to fail at just 1.6kV proves that (a) it wasn't a safety Class Y1 capacitor, and (b) it wasn;t safe anyway, it was super dodgy.
@BDYT14222 жыл бұрын
19:12 "I can't even remove it in 1 piece!" *_somehow removes it in 1 piece_*
@perhansson67183 жыл бұрын
The cuts with the cat where great, it looks like he is hiding from the microwave oven transformer tests in fear! :D Thanks for doing these tests, it makes it allot more interesting with an isolation test, especially when the "safety capacitors" fail shorted, really great engineering!
@Zeldon5673 жыл бұрын
Didn't look at the channel name and thought this was one of Clive's or Electroboom's videos, so I was not prepared for this dude's accent lol.
@Ale.K73 жыл бұрын
I like how they don't trim the excess wire, potentially reducing the separation even more (or risking direct ccontact),
@fabriziobrutti12053 жыл бұрын
2:08 I don't even want to imagine how high mus be the ESL introduced from the capacitors legs
@versedbridge40073 жыл бұрын
Those are what you call fry back power supplies :)
@BobT363 жыл бұрын
Your editing is getting super niiice. Also wow these vids are really eye opening for those dodgy charges that you plug into the wall and often touch with your fingers..
@BobT363 жыл бұрын
It always makes me laugh when he breaks out the Microwave bits and all the dodgy electronics, especially with all the warning stickers everywhere. XD At least we all know you know what you're doing! (you wouldn't still be here if you weren't).
@sidewinderam9m3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining why a short isolation disance is dangerous! I always wondered because I have never seen 120-240V jump across even a 1mm gap, but moisture, poor QC on solder joints, dirt, etc. were things I had not considered.
@mernok20013 жыл бұрын
It doesnt even need to arc over.Just 18mA of leakage current could cause injury to some people who are sensitive to electricity.
@MattSimmonsSysAdmin3 жыл бұрын
Not a fuse in site, just living its best life. Thanks for the video!
@schaltnetzteil49511 ай бұрын
3:14 That's quite common with those cheap crappy capacitors. I've also seen such poorly pressed safety vents quite often. I also love the high voltage testing and how you show your cat in the videos. Great job!
@WagTsX3 жыл бұрын
did you notice at 13:07 that the secondary rectifying diode solder and the board seem to be overheating too much? they got brownish. Also, super interesting the new high voltage test, can't wait to see it on a proper safe USB charger, I wonder what did you use to limit the current from the microwave oven transformer, to prevent saturation of the MOT during the short-circuits.
@DiodeGoneWild3 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice, but yes, the secondary diode is often the hottest component in these chargers. Well, I didn't limit the current :). MOT's are somewhat current limited, but not for a continuous short circuit. The secondary short current during the second test was about 1A with 200V on the primary.
@ACoTam23 жыл бұрын
i think brownish soler might mean that the flux/rosin started liquidifying and going outside
@perhansson67183 жыл бұрын
Not only that: if you forward around 5 seconds you can see that the solder on the secondary side seems to have reflowed, probably it gets hot enough to cook the secondary side capacitor in only this short test!
@mernok20013 жыл бұрын
A 2 kV MOT wont be enough for a proper charger,it will fail above 5 kV.
@flatspin53823 жыл бұрын
@@DiodeGoneWild can i use varistor as class y safety capacitor?
@ronniepirtlejr26063 жыл бұрын
She let out the Magic Smoke! 👏👏👏👍
@Tigrou77773 жыл бұрын
That new stress test is great. It would be great to see temperature of components with an infrared cameras during that time (I don't know if you have one)
@Shmbler3 жыл бұрын
I like how your USB tester survived 84Ah of "living on the edge" ;-)
@TheLPfunnTV2 жыл бұрын
The first video i ever saw from u was " a little more salt" you madman are still puting out awesomr content!
@R1BNC3 жыл бұрын
Testing USB cables might sound fun too
@kapegede3 жыл бұрын
The test of the disruptive strength was very interesting! Please put it always to your transformer tests.
@Zebra_Paw3 жыл бұрын
The second cube... I had one and it the secondary capacitor chose to explode because of an open loop (dead feedback zener). Oh, and not to mention, IT WAS SAYING DESIGNED BY APPLE IN CALIFORNIA, written correctly and everything, but the internals looked definitely fake, very similar to yours! It had a proper 13003 transistor though. For those who didn't know, Apple makes this kind of chargers for the US.
@LutzSchafer3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and analysis. It would be cool to also do the HV test just on the transformer before unwinding. Then you could indeed show where it starts failing. ..
@Barracuda480822 жыл бұрын
Excellent safety check..keep these educational videos coming..thank you.
@TheSpotify953 жыл бұрын
Yay, thank you for the review and teardown of these house-burning electrocution chargers! That second one failed its high voltage test with spectacular results, may I add. :) So the conclusion is: SUPER DODGY!
@Γιωργος-ι3ξ3 жыл бұрын
You have not made the video public yet so many have not seen it yet. I found it from the playlist
@vaclavtrpisovsky3 жыл бұрын
The early access is supposed to be a Patreon reward but apparently people can find it anyway. You can also sign up for a short time and exit before you are billed on the first of every month. (I am a legit $5.50 patron though)
@Tsiikki3 жыл бұрын
16:03 frame before cap blowing you can see blue light next to flex connector pin. Pause and use , and . to go frame by frame
@GlynWilliams19503 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown and use of a Microwave transformer. I am considering making a portable 500v DC USB adapter leakage tester. I think it should also add a test at 1,000v, to be more critical. I think the standards only require 240V adaptors to be tested at 500v I think it will have a green and red LED output indication.
@longrunner2583 жыл бұрын
500V DC is just for routine portable appliance tests, to avoid stressing the insulation too much when performed repeatedly. Factory and approval tests use much higher voltages than that (3kV AC for Class II with 230V/full range input, to my knowledge).
@mernok20013 жыл бұрын
@@longrunner258 I just use my 7kV neon transformer for that :) I didnt try a charger yet,but a classic iron core transformer will withstnd a few minutes without failing.
@tylern64203 жыл бұрын
His accent is the accent of all accents
@Prash1c Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I wanted to add one thing: You mentioned insulation distance as a problem in the video. So, though with your skills, experience, and expertise, it is fair to raise the small distance. That said, I believe the PCBs are finished with a conformal spray. This coating, once cured, adds protection from moisture and insulates the soldered leads. That explains why the cap blew at a whopping 2 kV, and that there was no arcing seen between those areas of the board where the isolated leads seemed pretty tight. Keeping in mind that for 200 AC V mains, 2kV implies a 10x margin for safety for failure with low arcing/shorting risks up to that voltage (probably close to its "failure rating" spec), the insulation distance may not be a major problem here. Thank you for sharing your content on YT.
@TheSpotify95 Жыл бұрын
Most good chargers (such as genuine Samsung or Apple) have an isolation distance on the board of several millimeters (normally 5mm+), as well as extra insulation materials if the sheer distance cannot be made possible. Chargers with an isolation distance of just a fraction of a millimeter are not good.
@Prash1c Жыл бұрын
@@TheSpotify95 From an exsperienced technician perspective, I understand. However, from the engineering perspective, if there is a consistent average 10x margin of safety for arcing, you're golden regardless of the insulation-distance on paper.
@p_o_3 жыл бұрын
22:05 interesting thing about this power supply is thing, that every fat Xbox 360 had same plug for power supply but also every next model had smaller power rating. I'm wondering how would first fat Xbox 360 work with last 360 fat power supply (jasper). It probably would turn on but when gaming it would shut down. Xbox 360 slim had different plug, but there was adapter to plug fat power supply to slim console (e.g. when your power supply failed and you wanted to buy used one).
@MissFoxification3 жыл бұрын
If you are after some ideas perhaps try and one of the dodgy "hoverboards" that set fire to houses.
@CathySiegert3 жыл бұрын
we need a new category: super deadly dogdy
@schaltnetzteil49511 ай бұрын
Or ultra dodgy.
@zhornz3 жыл бұрын
ahhh my favorite series
@tristanhameleers75063 жыл бұрын
Nice with the high voltage test
@windward28183 жыл бұрын
Cubes of Death. I reversed engineered the Apple 5W "american version" of the off-line charger also known as the white 5W USB charging cube. In the user guide Apple states: "Don’t use the power adapter in wet locations, such as near a sink, bathtub, or shower stall, and don’t connect or disconnect the power adapter with wet hands. Do not use any power adapter other than the Apple USB Power Adapter to charge Apple Watch, iPhone, or iPod." So Apple gives the user fair warning as to personal safety. If you use an off-line charger in a wet location you could electrocute yourself. The death part describes how given a certain amount of AC leakage and touching a phone while in the tube when connected to the charger could kill you. In the US we have GFCIs in most new construction in wet locations, so your odds of being electrocuted are lower with a GFCI. The focus of the overall investigation, as with the content in the video, revolves around AC leakage and its sources in an off-line charger. Specifically, hipot testing to understand insulation breakdown. As the charger ages the insulation resistance will at some point breakdown where it could pose a hazard depending on the weakness in the design and how it contributes to AC leakage. The apple design that I looked at had a Fusible resistor to protect the bridge. There where no X or Y capacitors used. 1 mm PCB slots where used to address voltage creepage. The transformer had a rather thick varnish on the windings, so level 3 varnish (thickest available) and was doubled full wrapped between windings. With the following turns: Inside winding Auxilary 152 Turns, Middle winding Primary 24 turns, Outside winding Secondary 11 turns. The control IC was an LP3773 in a special S08 package. The assembly used two boards. The USB protocol charging resistors where not populated which I think is the default, meaning 5W charger.
@parapotamus3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to try to set fire to those plastic casings of the chargers, just to check how that Chinese "strong durable fire-retardant ABS" actually performs in terms of fire safety.
@wurgervomlichtenmoor50732 жыл бұрын
Very good channel with good explanations.
@whitesapphire58653 жыл бұрын
I often wondered what was meant "FireWire" connectivity. I guess now, I know!
@MPETE19763 жыл бұрын
"Let's use a questionable travel adapter". You sure do splurge out on some fancy test equipment.
@johnvlahidis_google2 жыл бұрын
all videos on this youtube channel is excelent !
@iamdarkyoshi3 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to see HV tests, but never thought to use a microwave transformer. But the destruction from it is definitely welcome. Also, the voltage drifting outside of spec on the first one would probably be beneficial with the garbage USB cables that come with these things, it'd help compensate for the loss on the cable lol
@PCIeTeam3 жыл бұрын
I guess you doubled your comment.
@diyordie74313 жыл бұрын
16:30 The cat is satisfied :)
@artursmihelsons4153 жыл бұрын
High voltage test failing was excellent! 😂👍
@Broken_Yugo3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting that the not Y cap let go first on both. I wonder if these dodgy transformers aren't as sloppy as they appear, carefully made just good enough to pass a 1.5kVAC hipot test.
@electronic79793 жыл бұрын
Very good video
@wbutlers3 жыл бұрын
You should show a charger with better design and parts dissected
@yeahbucka30053 жыл бұрын
Probably Big Clive secretly watches your films about dodgy chargers with great amusement.
@sergepetrov85982 жыл бұрын
Big Clive's videos are sometimes boring to watch.
@fehlerstromalex3 жыл бұрын
You need to short the output! Wonders what would happen to those cheap chargers.
3 жыл бұрын
2:36 Wrong, in China wires are fuses.
@MrJozza653 жыл бұрын
It's shocking (pun intended!) how many of these badly made chargers are readily available, and it's difficult to tell without this sort of detailed teardown and testing. I will refer friends to this video when I need to explain to them that that cheap charger they are looking at, isn't the same as the more expensive and better quality branded and certified items.
@skyem52509 ай бұрын
another possibility for the USB ports is that the manufacturer chooses improperly stored old stock parts because they are cheaper
@jp0407593 жыл бұрын
I am not a cat lover but I must say that your kitty is very pretty. Great tests and evaluation as always. Happy New Year.
@valdisvesers34203 жыл бұрын
at 1:44 your fingers almost touches both pins of charger still under mains voltage..
@TheLukasz0323 жыл бұрын
"The mains go straight into the..." F U L L B R I D G E R E C T I F I E R ! ! !
@BRUXXUS3 жыл бұрын
This was an exciting one!
@jek__3 жыл бұрын
Would be neat to see you combine some of those pulled apart components into a decent charger, or maybe just laying out the components such that we might get the idea of how one might construct a decent charger
@TheSpotify953 жыл бұрын
11:05 This looks like the type of construction as seen in the "dangerous USB phone chargers 2" video where there was a cube! And look at that tiny transformer, that can't be safe!
@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap8 ай бұрын
next we need the DGW Charger, made by you Diode, that be sick ^^ even tho if u send Anker a speck and they make a DGW charger, you would still make a video bout it and dismantle it :D ^^
@iceberg7893 жыл бұрын
but, wild-diode sir, we not really have any statistics of exactly how many people died on these cubes !
@dino66273 жыл бұрын
Very horrible. I wouldn't have thought EMC was a concern for the manufacturer, it would be safer if they didn't put capacitor, and even cheaper for them.
@shajebkhalid78533 жыл бұрын
@diodegonewild I came up with stupid idea about a local service company where you will take your electronics for safety test.
@gelecopter3 жыл бұрын
xbox psu is really well-made. Thanks for interesting video, as always. Also is there next stage afte "Super Dodgy", like "Extremely Dodgy"?
@rkan23 жыл бұрын
Usually name-brand electronics PSUs are top quality because it isn't worth shipping the part that is most likely to fail for warranty replacement... No warranty replacement on Aliexpress-stuff..
@Broken_Yugo3 жыл бұрын
Extremely dodgy would be a capacitive dropper supply or something else that wasn't even designed to be mains isolated.
@shayhsopwagqehghggtfyggty26353 жыл бұрын
I love these vids good job.
@1pcfred3 жыл бұрын
The second one at least had the right voltage output. So that's something.
@mernok20013 жыл бұрын
If it doesnt have the correct output its probably safer because the user throws it in garbage and buys a proper charger.
@1pcfred3 жыл бұрын
@@mernok2001 how will they know? Most cannot measure voltage. Heck they probably don't even quite know what voltage is.
@mernok20013 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred Their phone will not charge in time or probably wont charge at all.
@1pcfred3 жыл бұрын
@@mernok2001 why won't it?
@mernok20013 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred Are you expecting a voltage like 4V to charge your phone?Unfortunately it wont.And if the USB cable is a shitty chinese one with copper clad steel or aluminum it will have a large voltage drop and probably less than 3V will go to your phone.
@Mark1024MAK3 жыл бұрын
Diode, just out of curiosity, do any of these cheap units work at 100V?
@elyeryan88383 жыл бұрын
Yes, they do. Some of them can light up a tiny usb light from 18 volts input)
@samuelfielder3 жыл бұрын
Applying 1600 volts makes it explode and that's fun. But 1KV is already 3 times the 240 volt mains peak voltage, and you are going 60 percent above that, so it's not really fair on the poor charger.
@BartTestuje3 жыл бұрын
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@d465123 жыл бұрын
Next can you show a transformer with failed isolation after meeting your HV test rig?
@nicholassemmens78653 жыл бұрын
I believe the robot from Finch stole your voice
@hichamnaffaa80218 ай бұрын
Good channel, thank you
@TomStorey963 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Xbox power supply tear down. That should be a masterclass in power supply design!
@churblefurbles2 жыл бұрын
Apple no longer including real ones just increases the population of dodgy chargers out there lol
@Morpheus666666663 жыл бұрын
its like a popcorn :D nice video
@mobilephone87283 жыл бұрын
1:44 I worried about you for a moment
@MANDINGOBlackPanther-lo1gm2 ай бұрын
5:53 Bean patlayacak diye kedi🐱 aklını kullanıp bir yerin altına girdi Öncelikle Can güvenliği🦺
@koochakjanghali45363 жыл бұрын
The "super dudgy" device manufacturer must send a hot air blower to you as an apology and penalty...😊😊
@1marcelfilms3 жыл бұрын
EVEN MORE VOLTS!
@My_Gaming_Mind3 жыл бұрын
XD I love the hair dryer
@ShowXTech3 жыл бұрын
Self-disassembling, specially designed for DGW
@TheLightningStalker3 жыл бұрын
The ecsbocs and Wii power supplies are very good 12V power supplies.
@RixtronixLAB3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up, nice video clip, thank you for sharing it :)
@АлександърКолчев-х7п3 жыл бұрын
how did the input capacitor not explode
@mobilephone87283 жыл бұрын
I wish you did not break the last charger that Optocoupler had and in the next video you increased the Duty Cycle to see how much power it gives.
@user-dw6fj1py1o3 жыл бұрын
6:02 cute cat!
@yamiomo73923 жыл бұрын
the thicc esl is amazing.
@inseries54943 жыл бұрын
Syooper Dodgeeeee
@markiangooley3 жыл бұрын
They’re little near-cubes because they’re trying to look like an Apple iPhone charger. They shouldn’t bother.
@PeterMilanovski3 жыл бұрын
Some people might say that it's pointless to test these things at 2kv but we tend to forget that 2kv doesn't even come close to what a lightning strike can achieve... You might not notice that the USB charger has failed until you plug in your phone to charge.. That will put some unexpected and unwanted hair on your chest LoL 🤣
@pirelli773 жыл бұрын
6:01 I agree. that's sad but, it gets better16:28 😂😂 Another great vid! Thank you! 😊
@cotto8873 жыл бұрын
why was"nt the isolation capacitor noticed. that capacitor was shorted
@davey2k12 Жыл бұрын
Hey where the link for xbox psu😅
@pvc9883 жыл бұрын
Multilayer ceramic capacitor between primary and secondary. What could possibly go wrong?
@tullgutten3 жыл бұрын
Im impressed they both held over 1500 volts 😅😳👍
@tobiassommer28212 жыл бұрын
Nice Video :) Could you test known chargers like from Anker or Samsung/OnePlus/Huawai/Apple ? That would be awesome to see, how it should be done(or not? :D).