Dirt Bikes for Prepared Citizens

[@idrayas2]

I can't stress how much you need to have dirt bike and compatible implements in a disaster struck area. I was in charge of preparing to send medication for a landslide isolated area where it was going to take 24-48 hours to open the access for ambulances and sar team with heavy equipments, and having 4 people with dirtbikes ready for this saves a lot of people by sending first aid and survival gear to prolong the wounded survival time

[@casualwoodchuck]

Good idea I remember the book and TV show that was actually in so things that never happened to you for 5:00

[@dilligaf8349]

Dog sleds in some regions are superior. Are you familiar with Balto?

[@arc2426]

Never clicked on a video so fast

[@narrode]

Fucking same

[@PNW_Phillip]

Me too

[@Carlos1010o]

😂👍👍

[@theeverymanracer]

Yep. Said it.

[@bigrod0069]

Shit yea. looks kool

[@vorteco7692]

Pro tip: keep your stock exhaust/muffler. You may need to be discreet one day. I love my FMF powercore on my KLR, but i keep me stock exhaust if i needed it. It is amazing how much attention these dual sports get going through town with loud exhausts. Put your stock pipe on and go through a small town. No one bats an eye.

[@xnihilo1044]

This is good advice. I have a '23 KLR Traveler, and of course considering an aftermarket exhaust (probably LeoVince). But just as you said, I don't like drawing attention to myself whether it be citizens or police. The weight-loss advantage is negligible. De-snorkle the intake to make the Pig breath better and that will be enough.

[@franciscomorales210]

I was wondering if a Storm Bee or an Ultra Bee might be better, especially if already into solar energy.....

[@TheMajictech]

Or even an add on muffler, silence is golden.

[@RiflemanLEONE]

We had KLR250s at my unit in the Marines in the mid 90s, the stock exhaust allowed them to snoop and poop at low speed on certain operations.The visibility you get from standing on the bike allowed you to see more across tall reeds and grass and down into things.

[@knuckles-3386]

To me this is the only advantage of a electric bike silence. Weather your hunting or being hunted silence is golden!

[@Montuckymadness406]

It’s so nice to see the Prep community finally catching up and intermingling with the biker community 🤘

[@prestonrobert2625]

Spot on.

[@Chretze]

I'm also glad that the tactical community finally embraced the airsoft community, now the biker community is joining the brotherhood, the 3d printing / maker community is also part of it now... I wonder when the rock climber community will join? Imagine the possibilities; Maybe abseiling has some tactical applications, or generally going places and traversing routes that are impossible to follow without proper equipment...

[@tb504david]

they all made it out the bunkers an from the basements playin fallout lol

[@chambo9212]

It’s always dope when people who are enthusiastic about different shit find something in common they can geek out about together. Love to see it.

[@erwin643]

Survivalists have always used motorcycles, ever since the thought-meme began in the 70's. In the famous old Jerry Ahern early 80's dime novel series The Survivalist, John Thomas Rourke traveled around on a Harley Low Rider, even going off-road with it, if you can believe that (OK, Jerry Ahern didn't know much about motorcycles. Traditionally, many famous professional Survivalists - writers, trainers, consultants, etc. - haven't specialized in motorcycles). - KLR 650, customized with tube steel engine guard w/highway foot pegs, wheels blacked-out with Rustoleum Textured Black, mil-spec MOLLE tank vest (in coyote color).

[@scottwood1953]

I will tell you after surviving the biggest city wildfire ever that motorcycles were the only means of motorized transportation that stayed forward in an SHTF situation. Nothing other than bikes fit in areas and went where nothing else could. You are right on track here good content.

[@harnishc]

What fire are you refering to?

[@deadtreebark]

Gosh darnit I need me a bike

[@scottwood1953]

@@harnishc Camp fire in Paradise Ca.

[@sloppyoppie]

@@scottwood1953 For Woolsey I got my fam out on a '81 Honda. I had a blast too.

[@ComfyDadShoes]

I would highly suggest the dr550, drz400, klx300, tw200, trail 125 as alternatives. The dr bikes have insanely easy maintenance. Don’t fear the carbs!

[@OathForged]

The Film crew and editors are absolutely killing it, great job.

[@dankingjr.2088]

We've actually discussed this. As a 40 year desert racer, I like the idea of fast, nimble transport that doesn't need roads. Have to be careful, because you aren't particularly stealthy, but at times there is probably no better option.

[@lionsofcornwall8475]

Do they make mufflers that will quiet them down?

[@comeandtakeit5183]

I remember seeing some footage of Ukrainian AT teams using electric dirt bikes to shoot and scoot early in the war.

[@dankingjr.2088]

@@lionsofcornwall8475 Yes. You can quiet them down, but you lose performance. It's a trade off.

[@JimmySilverFoot]

@@dankingjr.2088 you lose performance, but is it harder on the bike?

[@justincase3108]

I’ll stick with my stock KLX muffler. Quiet, and great performance. The after market sounds cool, but when stealth is required, nothing beats the stock muffler.

[@rizzo3689]

I'm a retired military recon pilot and I think you're doing a disservice to you and your family if your not prepping these days. That being said, this is a video I've been waiting to see someone do. You guys knocked it out of the park. Thanks!

[@Fireball-ky3sr]

Exactly right, my friend,. Failing to plan = Planning to fail.

[@pushtostart1377]

Paranoia is a bitch ain’t it

[@newFaction64]

How come? Especially if the upper class is more focused on wealth building.

[@thefacelessone74]

let me get started prepping, o wait no one has money

[@FerventReminder]

​@@thefacelessone74 If you want to do it, you'll find a way.

[@practicallypro1634]

It's absolutely worth adding a SteelStik to your tool kit. I've patched a quarter sized hole in a crank case with it, waited an hour, refilled my oil and rode out of the woods.

[@johngifford7725]

Excellent advice. That and mechanic's wire.

[@The_ZenTex]

works on a radiator in a pinch as well lol

[@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644]

The biggest plus to me in a bug out bike is simplicity, a dual sport that is air cooled and still uses a carburetor has half the things that could go wrong as a water cooled and fuel injected bike. The DR650 or TW200 are two wheel tanks and have been around forever and have tons of aftermarket accessories for them.

[@joshspooney7127]

DRZ 400 is the perfect combination of the two. Enough power to run when you need to yet small enough for the single tracks. I love mine!

[@tbrowniscool]

I don't much about dirt bikes but are most water cooled fuel injected now? I remember seeing someone on a 2 stroke on a farm when I was a kid and the speed/sound and smell was amazing!

[@tonyrichengod9280]

I agree on the air-cooled stuff. I'd just add a Lectron or SmartCarb for ultimate reliability regardless of elevation

[@LAdeThatFeel]

XR 650 would be the best all-rounder if you can find one

[@Bertibab]

Totally agree. Less is more. Relying on tech is a bad move.

[@64samsky]

I've been riding for at least 45 years, this has always been in my thoughts. A nimble street/dirt bike is invaluable.

[@mitchthewonderboy]

I bought a DR650 a few years ago and it was completely unrelated at the time to my “gun life” if you will. And I really only bought it because it was a good deal. But the more I got into it I realized the connections that could be made between the two. I’m glad to see you guys pushing this for others

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

"Gun life" should really mean "militia life". The core of 2A is American citizens being armed, trained, equipped and ready for war. The American people (not government) is supposed to be the core of are military power.

[@boopy123]

​@@skydivingcomrade1648 Amen!

[@doc650adventures]

Very true Mitch! The mobility aspect of a dual sport motorcycle is excellent.

[@punyaslokmohapatra7528]

Are Dr650s still sold in USA?

[@doc650adventures]

@@punyaslokmohapatra7528 They are. The price is about the same also. Great bike!

[@denirobarnett4231]

Going moto camping is a great way to gain survival skills when you can't have everything too. You pack in and out small and find out what you need and what is excess. Can't wait to get out there this motorcycle season to film, camp, and learn new skills to share with my group and others.

[@Zankaroo]

If you really want to figure out what you need hike in a long way or spend two nights out hiking each day. That way you are willing to carry. Having the bike after that as a "beast" of burden is a luxury and you can either keep it real light as if you were hiking or load the bike up with extras on like more tools, parts or sustenance items.

[@jonathanhorne4677]

Agreed.. welcome to motor camping.

[@TheMotorman116]

Agree. I’ve camped many times in the UP Michigan on my VFR750. Great way to learn minimalist camping and enjoy the experience of it all.

[@IrishSpyHD60]

Handy tip to those receptive, put trials bike wheels+tires on your bugout dirt bike. They can run as low as 4 psi for insane grip on anything (yes, anything) and conveniently almost never get punctured or go flat. Also general advice, if you want to go next level with your diet bike... buy a trials bike to train on. Best learning tool money can buy, old ones can go for very little money too

[@TexMexTraveler]

I'm an engineer and prepper myself and I love how you explain speed vs reliability. In engineering, everything is a compromise, you can have a perfect race bike that has poor distance reliability or the opposite, but not both. Thanks for the video, keep making them please. Also, I'm a HAM radio operator and wonder what you guys do for off-grid communications other than CB radios or GMRS radios.

[@lithium1770]

Ham radios without a license I bet lol

[@PaddleSquatch]

As you are probably well aware, ham signals are easily tuned into. As far as I am aware, ham is very low security. I do believe you can get secure frequency communication devices. However, they are probably expensive.

[@TexMexTraveler]

@@PaddleSquatch I do not believe there will be an everyday need for "secure" comms during an event which would require the use of ham radios for emergency purposes. 99.99% of the population do not own a ham radio and are not licensed to use ham radios (according to the FCC, there are a little over 500,000 ham operators in the US), which means they never studied to passed the test for ham radio usage. Additionally, by working with you rlocal prep group, you can have pre-arranged words and signals that only your local prep group will know what they mean, and so the very few people who will also have a ham radio and know how to use it won't understand what you're saying. Of the little over 500,000 licensed ham operators, only about half are active and have a radio according to the FCC. I do believe that having comms is one of the most overlooked important items when planning for survival gear packs, or disasters.

[@youtubeistrash2347]

​@@TexMexTravelerwhere do u need a license for hams

[@TexMexTraveler]

@@youtubeistrash2347 Yes, most countries, including the United States, require prospective ham radio operators to pass a test to be granted a license. This is mainly due to safety as antenna radiation can harm someone if they are handled incorrectly, and for the different types of legal usage. In the U.S., it is the Federal Communications Commission, or FCC. that regulates ham radio usage and testing.

[@steveturansky9031]

I used to race MX and dirt ride on a budget. One thing I learned was not to fully tighten levers, mirrors (on the dual sport) especially on the bars. If you dump the bike, they can roll around the bars rather than break. Obviously they have to be tight enough to not move under normal riding conditions. Not breaking stuff you can't replace would be vital if SHTF.

[@twocrazyhens]

One method was to drill a small hole through the levers just beyond what you absolutely need for your fingers. In a crash the outer part can break away leaving a usable part.

[@coltonschuchert3270]

Wrap thread seal tape underneath the clamps on the bars and tighten it down. It will be secure enough under normal riding use but under some added pressure or if you lay the bike down they will move and avoid breaking.

[@dylanh9281]

I’ve heard of people wrapping Teflon tape on the bars were the mirrors and levers clip on and it helps them spin on the bars when impacted

[@HorizonsleatherBlogspot2012]

You don't need mirrors in SHTF, but the rest of your statement is important to keep from breaking.

[@timbumgarner1207]

As a retired Marine and a retired LEO as well as a former government contractor. A properly outfitted dual sport or adventure bike is the only way to go. Fast enough, nimble, great fuel mileage, ability to carry a moderate load.

[@bultacowally]

John???............... John Rambo???........ is that you???

[@timbumgarner1207]

Don't be jealous

[@TheTAEclub]

​@@timbumgarner1207what about 2 strokes and dirt bikes I'm generak they aren't that efficient like the dual sport

[@timbumgarner1207]

@@TheTAEclubI don't think there is a thing is wrong with a 2 stroke. Just gotta put fit it the way you want. Just a bit noisy maybe

[@alecmurray2360]

I’ve been trying to get my friends to get dirt bikes the last 4 years for this exact purpose! This is gonna yet another reason for them to finally get one! Thank you!

[@j-elly.]

Your production value is ridiculous. Absolutely spectacular job laying out and presenting your information in an easy to digest way. Liked and subbed.

[@atf5813]

FR, these guys don’t even have 50k subs and I can almost guarantee they’ll hit at least 500k within the next 2-3 years with production value like this.

[@freedomranchchannel]

Bang on. My channel is basic(different format) but this is epic.

[@fintonmainz7845]

I agree. No waffle or stupid jokes. Informative but entertaining

[@mountainmarshmemories7012]

Some very good points on the Urban areas, another great benefit to the bike is that you can squeeze it through a normal door so you can hide it inside/out of sight if needed. Less chance of it being discovered, stolen, or fuel syphoned.

[@JTThayer]

If you can brace it you might also be able to setup a lean-to tarp on the bike to keep close to it. I haven’t tested it myself, but when I get my bike I definitely plan to.

[@chrissavage8107]

As a multiple times over Combat Veteran … You boys are doing it Very Very Right and in a lot of ways at that. Also, if “they” are making fun of you about anything that’s how you know you’re doing it Right!! Fantastic stuff keep it coming!! 💪

[@SnoopDougieDoug]

Concur. Just watched this one as my first example of their shizzle-dizzle, and the compliment is an earned one. I've ben retired 3 years as of last month but y last unit was a Pararescue Wing (Born Infantry, but retired wit y own Chair (Force) up on the flight deck of an MC-130P Combat Shadow (I was the very last Flight Engineer to retire the very last Shadow out of the System...retiring 'cuz it's not "OK to be -J") with some time wrenching and spark chasing on sand infested flying egg-beaters in between. Active Duty flying for the Silicon Valley Guard (Combat Search And Rescue), when CONUS we hit up every natural disaster area within striking distance of a fat and gassy gal and a pair of PaveHawks that had a hankerin' for tuckin' down low and fighting between themselves over my glorious wet hose (don't hate the Player...hate the Game), and I got to see a lot of what did and what didn't work out for the folks down on the deck in Hurricane Alley...not to mention playing with the PJ' spoiled Big Boy's Toys. Been riding God knows how many legacy Gen One KLRs over enough years to make the old blind and deaf dog in the corner would get up and offer me his spot to sit out of deference to his elders. I've toyed around with most other stuff out on the market at one point or another as I have been riding whatever I could lay my hands on and burn off someone else's gas in the tank. EXCEPT, ... not the Diesel flavor (among other fuels) of overlander KLR scoot scoots that airdrop quite nicely, but never manage to make it onto the gub'ment DRMO auction circuit. At least... Not yet. Concur as well on the comment that if they are making fun of you, you are probably doing it right. I'm 47 and Silicon Valley has kicked out a few Unicorns from startup ideations that began life as a snickering joke that somebody later on in local life really wished they'd STFU about and taken the investor's plunge (my High School class kicked out more than a few Founders and Founder's core Teammates, all of whom hit figure #7 in their 20s before they ever changed diaper #1 (I was not so wise and sage...my boy is now 26 and I didn't move that same decimal point over until well into year 44 and divorce numero two-o - got the notification RIGHT after I retired that old 1Jody was back to his plumbing trades again, and had been hitting up my AO once more. :-/ ) These youngsters with this channel are trackin' proper and earned a subscribed follow. When it's time for the video on bugout ragwing taildraggers with no engine driven electrical system (slant X-Ray) to get made, come holler (I'm easy to find on here, and fly/hangared out of KLVK, live on 18 ranch acres nearly between KCPU and KJAQ) Keep it up, fellerz (uh...I meant the work on the CHANNEL...no, I did NOT mean to snitch one of my little blue pills, yo.) TSgt "Farva" (RET) West Coast Rescue; (12oz curl undefeated champion) (Can still bench 240...with duct tape and 2 Edward FortyHands full o' Mickey's)

[@CainnechK]

I rode a dirt bike for the first time last year at 38 years old. I immediately thought how great they could be for prepping,bug out and recon

[@Boomy2nicce]

Oh yes they are SF gets these little bastards and get to look high speed asf with them

[@TheCaboose36]

As a rider myself, in woods and hare-scramble type riding/racing, don't give up on that CRF230. I own one, they are bulletproof and perform well if modded right. The perfect bike for this. Air-cooled so drop it as much as you like, no radiators to puncture, only a couple inches shorter than a full sized bike. So many mods to be found to make them awesome bikes without having to spend 6-10k for something orange. I have to agree with @vorteco7692, ditch that aftermarket exhaust and get a factory one installed, remove the airbox snorkel, and re-jet the carb. Starting with a 120main, and a 45-48 pilot jet really helps wake the bike up. If you're still searching for more power, get an aftermarket header and install it with the factory exhaust to keep things quiet, but increase flow as the 230 shares the same header pipe as the 150F. Awesome video

[@WyitAlan]

I've been racing and riding Enduro for nearly 20 years and using my bike as a form of "bug out" rig has never crossed my mind until now so thank you for bringing that to light. I can see a million and one uses for a bike now that I think about it.

[@alexbarnes3912]

I am new to your channel, I just wanted to say great job, the camera work, editing, and info given was first rate.

[@donnyking5635]

everyone is new this channel man

[@leojoseph6385]

Great run down on adding this option to the Prepared kit bag. Which dual sport is arguable, I value reliability and ease of maintenance more. For me it’s comforting that I know how to ride, in case the situation required it. It’s tough and expensive to have all the resources and skills to be 100% prepared, which is why it actually takes a trusted and mutually supportive community.

[@duck_rifle5879]

I’ve been advocating for these skills amongst the dirty civs for years. Glad to see y’all talking about it.

[@matthewravo125]

Been doing this for years, glad to see y'all are on board 🙂 Now if I can make a suggestion; 230/250cc will not cut it if you are evading a threat in a straight line, 450r/650cc are gonna be quick in a straight and still nimble enough in the single tracks while not sacrificing anything towards maintenance intervals. Also a packed out bike is much less nimble than a slick side bike, therefore in my experience a "lighter" backpack is the way to go with only extra fuel and tools on bike. When I say lighter backpack I mean think backpacking, ounces are pounds, take only bare essentials, no comforts. You don't need a tent, you don't need a sleeping pad. You need water purification, food, fire starting and a way to stay warm and dry. I love the idea of having a way to camouflage the bike in case you need to push on without it for a bit but you're not ditching it and this is really not a primary solution as you've said it's something to use for recce/forward observation or a quick push out ahead of your crew. Keep up the good work and I'm really digging the content 👍 solid stuff.

[@matthewravo125]

@MEOW MEOW N- Honda 650L I had a 400sm they are drastically under powered and you'll be searching for a nonexistent 6th gear 🤣 you can do a stroker kit and big bore out to 450ish and put on a mikuni carb slightly larger than stock and it will give it ok power but you're into the 1,000's on that upgrade.

[@Weltbummler23]

@@shockadellick sure but there’s no way im taking a dr200 on the freeway in the meantime

[@shockadellick]

@@Weltbummler23 On doom's day the freeway will be locked tight from coast to coast. That said, you'll need to make your own roads and like I said, 150cc to 400cc air cooled will give you the best chance at it🤨

[@Weltbummler23]

@@shockadellick talking bout meantime before doom

[@three33three33]

I agree with you, but imo 650's chug a lot of gas compared to smaller displacement bikes, so it somehow defeats the purpose. Eitherway, it depends on the owner's preference...

[@Toastification]

Well done guys! I’ve been on 2 wheels for almost my entire life. Dirt bikes are the mountain goat of vehicles! Best lesson I ever got was “learn how to fall off properly!” Looking forward to more!

[@AzimuthSolutions]

I’ve recently developed the habit of dropping everything when Dirty Civilian uploads.

[@Macharassi]

It seems to me like a niche, but really useful setup would be to have an electric dirt bike to minimize sound signature and increase fuel availability in SHTF. You could install infrared headlights on it to work with NOD's for stealthy riding at night. There are definitely disadvantages to this setup (mainly charge time and electric infrastructure requirements), but I do think it would fill a certain role quite nicely.

[@DZ4295DBW]

Electric dirt bikes have horrible range especially in winter

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

Getting an electric generator like a Jackery or BluEti would be good for this kind of setup. Camp out somewhere for an hour while it is juicing up. I would argue an E-Bike is better, though. When it is low on battery, you can still pedal like a normal bike. Also, I'm pretty sure some E bikes can recharge from pedaling, kind of like those crank radios.

[@Necromorph72]

@@DZ4295DBW Hopefully they'll catch up with electric car development and be a genuine option in the next few years. Companies like Solar, SurRon, and Zero are doing some cool things and pushing the envelope.

[@schadowization]

​@@Necromorph72i don't think they will ever. Physics just work aginst them. The two main reasons why electric cars have decent to good range these days is because a) weight doesn't matter so you can have a big battery. b) electric cars can be engineered to be very aerodynamical, with a motorcycle you'll never reach that since the rider is the main thing resisting the wind

[@Anxiou5Panda]

@@schadowization Ohh well, we can't really have it all, sigh.

[@dere_k_1]

This video inspired me to reach out to a friend who rides trails and have him help me learn. Boy is this harder than it looks. Definitely bruised and bleeding but the capability is an important one. I’ll keep working towards it 💪

[@aarononymous2685]

If you're going to use this as a bug out bike I'd HIGHLY recommend running a mousse instead of a tube, completely puncture proof and will practically never run flat. They last me usually 3-4 tire changes and I've grown to prefer them over tubes in feel and traction. Virtually every team races them in the Baja 1000 and that should tell you all you need to know.

[@Shootmoresuckless]

It would be pretty cool to add blackout lights for riding with nvgs. And kill switches for the break/ running lights.

[@christian_guzman]

Oh it’s on the list haha

[@Shootmoresuckless]

@@christian_guzman you’ve inspired me to take the 450 and rig her out haha did you get the bike wrapped or did you get a plastic kit?

[@christian_guzman]

@@Shootmoresuckless nice! I wash had a 450! I just wrapped my factory red plastics with a heavy duty vinyl made by imagecraft. Easy enough to do!

[@Shootmoresuckless]

@@christian_guzman sweet, I’ll have to start looking for some. I’m rocking a ktm 450 she’s good enough to get the job done but I’ve been wanting to get into a Honda again. I think the next big bike purchase will be a Honda Africa twin tho haha Like you said in the vid, maintenance on Hondas is pretty much full proof and cheap haha

[@SHOGUNTHEIMPERIAL]

There’s going to be a learning curve for riding under nods. Even driving under nods take alot of practice. Your depth perception under nods is a little different than without. It is very minute, but just a few inches could result in a nice spill.

[@ericsloan616]

You are so right! I have the Crf250L and it got me threw the high gas prices in the pandemic and its way more capable than a 4x4 truck and even an ATV. Something everyone should have in a national emergency. Two thumbs up for this video

[@ninja5672]

Depends what capability you need. Yes, a bike can handle more technical, narrow trails. But if you need to haul 4 people and a bunch of supplies in one trip, and no off-roading, you need the 4x4 with a trailer.

[@m.k.nielsen5822]

👍

[@l337l0gan]

Rode all thru high school and a few years after. Haven't rode in almost 15 years now. Just got an xr150L to get used to everything again. Feels great. Really compliments the lifestyle of preparedness

[@AerialAcesRC13]

The military has utilized the KLR 650 with a dual wheel drive and a diesel engine. I've been told this can also be set up to utilize multiple fuel sources. I found this while researching for a "custom" bike base to start a project to meet the needs for an Infantry man and family member. I personally chose to build an elec. Sport bike, full black out controls, FLIR Nav, GPS, and charges from PURE low grade solar at home, and can also utilize up to level 2 charging.

[@reidcrosby6241]

I am not aware of the dual powered wheels...are you sure about that?...Rokon is one of the only i jnow of.

[@AerialAcesRC13]

@@reidcrosby6241 not the trailbreaker, though spectacular. I believe kawi, but don't quote here. Yes, thinking 650 single, carb, left side chain drive with cover, to universal shaft drive to comp for steering. Don't recall the '"final" drive from u joint down forks to wheel. Very, very, very limited. Maybe proto? Maybe it wasn't Kawasaki at all, but I really remember it that way lol. Idk I'll look when free tho.

[@Grognarthebarb]

How long does charging take on low grade solar to 100% How long know level 2 charging And what's the max range

[@AerialAcesRC13]

@@Grognarthebarb not GREAT TBO, lol. Roughly 12-14hrs(still tinkering) on solar, less than maybe 45mins lvl 2/240v, and range varies A LOT. In reg. Usually around 45mph commute city can see 70-100 miles very conservative, and 45-60 miles if you are hard on the take offs, speeds, and don't use Regen brakes often. Regen does also recharge well. I'm VERY new and learning as I go so nothing is solid. Hope this helps. I take a hit on the solar charge as a trade-off to completely renewable energy for my battery vs. Coal or natural gas. I'm also pretty bad at KZbin but I should probably make a video about this lol.

[@Grognarthebarb]

@@AerialAcesRC13 it'd be cool if you could get a foldable portable panel set up. It's simple enough to bring 2 extra gallons and double range on a gas bike. If you could you can make your range "infinite" albeit slow. It would be Worth it

[@theoffspringrox77]

My DR 650 stays in my stable because it's so versatile. It wouldn't care about an EMP, doesn't require an electric fuel pump, and can maintain 70 mph loaded with luggage or walk down rough trails easily due to being so torquey and a low seat height makes it easy. Great video! Dual sports are a tool.

[@Sherwood-TN]

Man, you boys are doing the lords work here. Like GI Joe used to say, Knowing is half the battle. Between yall and garand thumb, lives are going to be saved directly by yalls info sharing efforts. And it is really nice to see someone in my neck of the woods doing this stuff. All the others seem to be out west. Greetings from Hickman, TN. Keep it up fellas.

[@mackenzieclancy959]

I have a triumph scrambler that I've turned into a camping/ overlanding vehicle. It's not as light or nimble as a dirt bike but it's quieter, over 150 mile range, and the maintenance interval is 10,000 miles

[@MaxFuryan]

Where has this channel been my entire life? 😂 You guys are crushing it!

[@bondvagabond42]

I was a motorcycle mechanic before i got MS, so ive been thinking about this for a long time. Ive had just about every 250cc-650cc dual sport, and none of them have as good a range as i wanted. Think the best i got was around 45mpg, my harley sportster gets 68mpg, so im building myself a "dirtster" to haul a bit more gear/fuel, and have way more range. Get really good at bump starting your bike if it has no kickstart, huge percent of bike start problems are battery related, they are pretty reliable otherwise. I think looking less tacticool is probably safer in an emergency, i also think it is good to have your gear pre sorted, so stuff youd take if you ran out of gas and had to ditch your bike, if you can just cash your saddle bags, and walk off with your backpacking bag. If your bike got taken out by a bullet, you want to get away fast, not dig for spare ammo you put in bottom of saddle bags to have the weight lower for better handling.

[@TroyHomenchuk]

This was the video I needed. I decided last week I need to go this direction with a dual sport. I have never ridden and thought I was the only one who was seeing how useful they could be. Thanks for sharing this. So good.

[@renviluan2842]

I've been in a few SHTF scenarios. killer quakes, seasurges, civil unrest, war and stuff(I'm in the Philippines so it's normal sometimes). A bike is the only thing that worked most times. Except for civil unrest or war, travel during the first day is what id advise. And a bigger engine is not ideal. I have a 125scrambler that saved me a lot of times and allowed me to go places other vehicles can't. As for gear and stuff. Most cases things happened all I had access to realistically was a knife. And I can't tell you how important rubber strips are. I've used them for hunting fish into a spearpole, animal traps, bird traps, homemade slingshot with a small pointed projectile. Also small bikes don't need a lot of maintenance. One earthquake couldn't get gas due to long lines. Had to work with a quarter tank that gave me sixty kilometers. Couldn't pass roads. So I followed the train tracks all the while saying my bike can take it. Found my wife and her family. Stayed with them till things were safe. It was also real quiet. Can even climb stairwells and light enough to be carried over a wall by a couple guys if needed(during the lockdown we did this to avoid checkpoints). Only thing I'd add is some electrolytes as riding in an emergency it's enough to keep you going along with some water.

[@valenzuela_762]

Very independent 👍👍

[@curtisboynton]

Avoiding lockdown checkpoints by hopping walls? We need more people like you

[@DadCanFixAnything]

Props to my Pinoy brothers that resisted and continue to resist the tyranny there. My plans to go back in 2021 were thwarted by jab checkpoints at airports and mask requirements on flights (I refused to mask from day one, which ultimately led to having to find a new job). Here in the states, I avoided lockdown checkpoints by ... wait, I didn't avoid them, I intentionally and blatantly defied them. I don't live in Colorado, but It's nearby and when they announced total lockdown, my anti-tyranny mentality hit overdrive and I decided to drive through the entire state and a few others in defiance. I expected at minimum to be harrassed, if not arrested for my defiance, but even the police in Commierado bought into the fear narrative and weren't out enforcing anything. It was very eerily like an old twilight zone episode while driving through Denver with absolutely no traffic during what would normally be morning rush hour. What really blew my mind and continues to blow my mind is the fact that so many people refused to think independently, or do a lick of independent research, before buying into all the fear-mongering and jab coercion.

[@NikosAnimals]

better with a pushbike in a real SHT

[@renviluan2842]

@@j_rainsgoat3929 it oral rehydration salts. Contains sugars, potassium and other stuff needed for metabolism. Combined with water, it's equivalent to a meals worth of energy and will keep you alive. It's light and easy to carry than food, though you'd still be hungry but your body won't give out. It's available in pharmacies.

[@claytonnoble568]

Ex-Leo here and i can say with utmost certainty we had a stolen dirt bike that we spent a lot of time hunting and every pursuit initiated on it resulted in him escaping to this day to my knowledge. The guy really knew how to get around that dense urban area so employeed it absolutely has a place in the prepper margin.

[@WMDTVIDS]

dirtbikes have been a cornerstone of rural life and survival for decades. The KLR and DR have been the go to bikes for years. It will be interesting to see how you progress with this. Dirt bikes would be a great way to leave an urban environment.

[@TonyMontana-lh5bp]

I've owned a DR350 for going on 20 years. It's been great.

[@Warpoet1]

This looks like a Christopher Nolan film and I’m here for it! Such sick content !

[@gshkvr3578]

Awesome video, built up a XR400R bout 12 years ago with 23L tank, saddle bags, 200 watt stator, added a lithium battery, tricked up the suspension and engine a little, its great for getting out bush for riding camping hunting etc, keep up the good work men

[@sunvalleyorganics]

I'm turning my SXS into an overland vehicle but a ton of my buddies have bikes and I'm definitely getting more interested in having one or 2. We're in the desert so having any vehicle that can smash thru rough terrain is a must in my opinion. Keep up the solid work guys, love the content so far. 👌

[@guardiansfitness]

I'm a South African who focuses on emergency preparedness, my main channel is a preparedness channel, I currently own a Honda Transalp xl 700 for its reliability. This was an excellent video, ''Be prepared'' - Scouts Global.

[@professorronin9648]

This is excellent material and timely for me.I recently rescued a 2012 CBR250 where it had been stored unmothballed in a garage for 7+ years. After some cleaning and wrenching to get it running I've started the process of turning it into a combination naked street fighter and dual sport. We have UTV trails connecting where I am with where I want to go and I want the option to go off road faster than with my mountain pedal bike.. Limited cargo capacity requires a lot of thought and I'm enjoying the process.

[@mattf2666]

I really like this idea. I'm less than 100 miles from several public land hunting spots. Loading up, riding there, and filling up in town before going off grid sounds like such a good way to get deep into the woods very quickly.

[@kamn8r]

You guys are raising the bar on content. Keep up the good work.

[@RatEmpire]

My choice was the Suzuki DR450 for the same reasons stated in your video. I also like that they've changed so little since the 80s, which means aftermarket parts are cheap. Love the video.

[@reallifehardtruth4465]

DDrz400sis what you mean im thinking

[@ACRONS047]

Did you mean the DR650?

[@RatEmpire]

@@ACRONS047 typo. Yes.. We call them bush pigs here.

[@lowxpectations]

And the production quality of the video is just absolutely incredible

[@ShockAnAwe]

Great Video. One suggestion would be to add a small bottle of fuel stabilizer just in case you have to leave your bike somewhere for more than 90 days. Gas goes bad and typically doesn't work after 3-6 months. The fuel stabilizer will delay degradation. Twenty ounces will keep about 25 gallons of gas stable for two years or more depending upon storage conditions i.e. location, condition, container type, etc.

[@sinistergates6630]

Id love to see a part 2 talking about "tactical" riding gear, a gun mount, a helmet that could be used with said gun, helmets with built in radios, and way to mount a loaded bike onto an existing overlanding rig/ main camp.

[@Jhardy64]

Rugged radios makes a moto kit for their “v3” radio… which is just a re branded baofeng uv5r. Has a push to talk to go on the bars, speakers and a mic for the helmet. Radio can be put in a backpack or on a rig.

[@kurtismeinhardt68]

Drew guzzling the raw milk is a mood. Love the content, got my KLR just for the reason of preparedness.

[@jbird2801]

I haven't had to use mine for anything too hardcore yet, but it's gotten me to work and back during a few floods in waters that were a little too deep for my car to make it through!

[@Spessforce]

I have a Lectric Ebike. They are pretty inexpensive and give me 25 ish mile range to visit and return from local sites quietly. It’s also legally a bicycle, so I can take it on trails and sidewalks and in parks.

[@jeffreyhanshawsr4884]

YES BUT YOU CAN'T BUG OUT ON IT. TRY LOADING IT UP WITH YOUR GEAR AND PLATE CARRIER AND YOU WILL BE AT A HUGE DISADVANTAGE TRYING TO CHARGE IT,VERSES GETTING A COUPLE OF GALLONS HERE AND THERE FROM BROKEN DOWN AUTOMOBILES...

[@PracticalTacticalSheepDog]

​@@jeffreyhanshawsr4884 I personally have a DR650 with an oversized 6.6 gallon tank and an auxiliary 1 gallon tank mounted to the side..... But there's something to be said for a completely silent electric bike that can be solar charged in a few hours

[@brass2grass]

@@jeffreyhanshawsr4884 bro chill, he was stating what he has and how he uses, he didn’t suggest it. Besides an e-bike can be recharge solar

[@kj3n569]

E-bikes are perfect scout vehicles, and with a trailer and solar panels you have virtually unlimited range. I found a solar panel "blanket" that produces 100w and could charge batteries while running, as a cover for a trailer. No one thing is perfect for every environment or situation. Ideally, having a side x side with the e-bike on the back would cover a lot of situations if you are traveling with others. Use the bike to scout, then contact the person(s) in the 4-wheeler. The important thing is to share ideas, not knock anyone's choices. We're all Dirty Civilians, and all we have is each other. While it would be great to call in air support to move us, we don't get that luxury. Unless one of you guys have a chopper. If you do, can we be friends? Stay strong.

[@TheDudeAbides1776]

We have QuietKat eBikes for hunting and its a big part of our bug-out plan. I bring an extra battery and a solar charger so I always have a battery getting charged while we're at camp. Sure it's limited on range and take a while to charge on solar, but it's dead quiet which is a huge advantage over a traditional dirt bikes. Best part is if the battery dies it's still a bicycle that you can pedal.

[@micahpage3725]

I've been riding off-road in Colorado and Arizona for many years. On a properly setup dirtbike, setup for singletrack riding, my friends and I have covered well over a hundred miles of high altitude riding in a day (with gas staged or gas station on the road). These dirtbikes are increadibly capable. We ride above tree-line, cross streams and rivers, cross scree fields, and more. Nothing can cross mountainous terrain like a dirtbike. Hiking takes too much time. Mountain bikes take too much energy. Ebikes don't have the range. And quads and overlanders can't ride on single track trails and get into small spaces. We carry food, water, tools, select replacement parts, etc.

[@MaxwellBenson80]

I like your thought process on this. One of the main reasons I bought a dualsport bike , is the wide range of Terrain that it can take on. Regardless of brand or style a motorcycle is a great bugout vehicle. Nice job on this video!

[@bconley007]

The ending lmao 😂you guys are killing it! Thank you for this education. Keep em coming!

[@DocShred-u4d]

In my younger days in Austin, Texas, I rolled a KLR650 for years; put over 75,000 miles on it... daily commuter and just cruising. Now I'm looking at a 400 or 250cc bike; way lighter and...faster if necessary. Will jock it up like you guys are doing. Been looking at some of the new electric bikes; way more quiet and can be modded out with a solar panel...just thinking out loud. Great video.

[@deepbludude4697]

yep 63 bones dont take the abuse like when I was 30-40 or even 50.

[@OrdoCorvus]

I am so impressed with this channel already! You guys have your sh!t together! Production quality is ON POINT, and the information given is invaluable. Looking forward to more excellent videos and content.

[@LordHolley]

I absolutely loved my cr250f. I put a 280 kit in it, Rekluse clutch, and exhaust. I regularly chose it over my 450. It really was the perfect dirt bike imho

[@T30-z5w]

I’ve been deep into this for years. In addition to weapons, I have off road trucks, one adventure, two dual sport and two dirt bikes of the Toyota, KTM, Beta and Yamaha flavors. Oh, and don’t forget the fat tire eBike for situations where you want to get to a hunting spot quietly.

[@6699noa]

Yes.... These boys are just now realizing what some of us have been on for a while. 2001 Chevy S10 Zr2 and a 2020 KTM 390 ADV are my vehicles of choice for these situations.

[@percussivemaintenance7222]

I am BLOWN at how many of my interests and hobbies are being discussed by y'all. Jokes aside, it is incredibly validating to see the homies out there doing real stuff.

[@klxcountry]

Fail

[@percussivemaintenance7222]

@@klxcountry ?

[@Andrew-iq5ud]

Agreed. Seems like the Western subconscious is preparing for something. Most males i know are on the same page. Carl Jung wrote about this pretty extensively.

[@klxcountry]

@@percussivemaintenance7222 not sure any of this qualifies as "real stuff".

[@percussivemaintenance7222]

@@klxcountry compared to the overwhelming trend of disengaged youth devoid of tangible real life skills, I believe this qualifies.

[@adambagwell40]

Brilliant! I'd use an XR250 though. Less moving parts and less problems. Way more reliable, but that's just my opinion, from owning a XR's my whole life. My 1999 250 started on the 3rd kick for the 1st time riding it in 6 years. Can't beat that engine.

[@TheMotorman116]

I agree! Rode a ‘95 for years. Got a new XR650L now and it’s a hell of a bike for ANYTHING! Ride safe, stay safe, stay vigilant!

[@codealtf4logn779]

@@TheMotorman116is an xr150l good?

[@TheMotorman116]

@@codealtf4logn779 honestly I haven’t researched those much, but I would suspect it’d be very reliable. I think that engine is based on the old XR100 , or possibly XR200. Both of which are great motors. Being only 150cc it will lack a bit on power for heavy loads, but it’ll be great on fuel!

[@50shadesofcerakote]

That ending clip was great. I get the thought process of a 2 wheeled bike, but Ive been toying with the idea of a UTV quad for a couple years now... We have a Honda rancher and a Brute Force. They have the racks on the front and back. You can get get the hard cases that mount on them, gun racks, a winch and other similar mods as Christian put on his bike. They sometimes even have little tailgates/trunks on them so you can store stuff. You can pull heavy loads with a quad, like a trailer or downed tree.

[@richmcmanus528]

I'm going with the quad. I have a trail bike also but will be easier to load all my gear and a lot more fuel on my my quads. My Ole lady and I are going to start rigging them up once we get moved

[@millerbrosmediaoffgridflyf7767]

Man, every one of these videos on the Dirty Civ channel is Dope!! Makes me wanna expand my capabilities as a man, a citizen, and a father.

[@dirty-civilian]

We try to make content that inspires us when we rewatch it. Glad you like it!

[@AB-nb2ic]

This could be SO fun and chill but you guys make it so anxious, severe and technical. Don't forget to enjoy yourselves 😁😁😁 Great production btw! Cinematography and editing are top notch 👍

[@allenjohnson4938]

that's the selling point for most of these "Prepper" turned Turned "Doomer Tubers" and they have plenty of good info but its all predicated on a mythological state of affairs for Most People

[@CenterMassContent]

Seemed like they were laughing & having fun the whole time🎉

[@knuckles-3386]

@@allenjohnson4938just ask the Israeli people about the mythical stuff they’re going through right now!

[@googletropcurieux8670]

I didn’t feel an ounce of fear here. It’s a serious topic discussed seriously. Nothing wrong with that. If you felt fear it’s already in your head so work on that asap

[@aspringer9876]

Its slower but bike packing community could add to this conversation too. Mtn bikes are a quieter and even smaller footprint. It also adds to ones fitness level as a sport

[@kerbalairforce8802]

France had bicycle calvary in WW2.

[@ThatDudeCobz]

Bikes and technicals are the backbone of any SOF transportation. Learning to use what you have to fit your needs and limitations is what makes a prepared citizen prepared. Great video guys.

[@collectiveleak]

Bought a klx300 for sort of this reason. I'm 19, I see the climate our country is in, and if things were to go south it would serve me well, being cheap on gas, can basically go anywhere, and is very modular. For now though, I am going to use it for commuting and just as a daily driver.

[@pedrofelipe685]

You guys remind me when I rode through Asia, I had a very similar setup, and many guys were riding gs and stuff like that, and they were always having a ton of trouble with luggage and weight, while mine was extremely light and comfortable.

[@trevorvictory1944]

Just got inspired to start back building out my klr. This channel is awesome. Makes me feel normal. Lol

[@czthor1]

You nailed it get the Moskco Moto reckless 40L small enough for maneuverability & storage or Tusk saddle then a fork scabbard to carry a long/short firearm or fishing rod for you outdoor activity's. Leaving your body able to maneuver / navigate the terrain in a safer stance.

[@Jason1087870]

My god, this production level is on par with TREX. Congrats on such a solid formula. You guys will definitely keep growing.

[@itsjustbrye]

well, i mean, Drew Hopkins...

[@Jason1087870]

@@itsjustbrye Ah, I was trying to remember where I saw him. He doesn't pop up that much on the TREX videos, so I didn't make the connection. Thanks.

[@Tarburz]

@@itsjustbrye Josh, Christian, and Nick also haha

[@jonvenusti]

discount lucath is catching up

[@fastbanshee1999]

The Yamaha TW200 is a perfect bike for this. Built extremely rugged, comfy, and with some suspension upgrades you can carry alot of gear. New they are priced pretty low. It doesnt have the power like anything (its low) bit its a damned mountain goat and will go anywhere.

[@nunya9555]

Just remember to keep that air cooled engine from overheating. I prefer them that way, but they have their limits. There was a video on YT where a guy was riding his TW on the highway and burned it up. It had plenty of air, just too many rpms for too long. The same thing could have happened on a hot day going slowly over rocks on a rough trail.

[@skipdegraff6547]

It can also be written off as farm equipment

[@HappyHermitt]

​@@nunya9555 I've kept mine at 7/8 throttle for 2 hours with no problem

[@CMc-cq8wl]

During Hurricane Hugo the day after the storm there were so many trees down along with debris that the only way to get around was with a motorcycle, me and my Freind were able to survey the damage and go to supply sites for water and food and didn’t have to worry about gas for awhile, it made a bad event more enjoyable.

[@banesbox]

I feel like your bike fit out would be mission dependent kind of like your tactical gear. It’s more personal taste than right or wrong. The key takeaway is the dirt bike is extremely versatile and a fantastic tool for a doomsday scenario.

[@prots]

Yes but dirt bikes are not street legal until they are street legal

[@klxcountry]

Not

[@tomkeehn]

@@prots Dual sport solves that problem.

[@c-note4146]

Have you guys considered the Christini? He was (at one point) getting some funding from gov to design hybrid on his AWD system. But sadly gov pulled funding and he never finished the project of his rotary/electric hybrid that doubled as a field expedient electrical generator. I really wanted to see that come to be, I hope that he can finish that project some day

[@ChrisDavis-tt1dj]

I agree on Honda reliability. We have a pair. 1985 250XR and 1986 200XR. All we have done to them is change the oil and rebuild the carbs one or twice since 1991.

[@danwillis328]

Definitely need a whole series filmed around Dual Sports. Camping, Mods, etc

[@janhbhugo5085]

I’ll tell you something, in the 70’’s in Africa the Kawasaki KLR was a popular vehicle used by the military with gun mounts FYI . There was platoon of them and they would normally scout in groups of around 4 ! The KLR as you would know it’s like a tractor ! Wire and pliers and tire repair kits was carried ! Enjoy !

[@connorblair6438]

The hdtm103m1, I almost got my hands on one my unit was tossing in the trash but I was pcsing at the time :'( a few months ago I got a 2023 klr 650 and I don't regret it at all as a commuter and trail bike

[@getoffmybeach]

Bro that’s a pure lie the first KLR was made in 87 😂

[@GnoticPasta]

Good stuff. nice to see the tactical community moving into this. recommend ADV forums, specifically RTW riders (round the world) currently have a DR200 and DR650, with the 650 setup for long distance/overlanding type rides

[@PracticalTacticalSheepDog]

I did a cross country trip on my DR 650 about 2 years ago. My only singular regret is the retardedly loud performance exhaust. The thrill of listening to the bike Rev louder than the dump truck next to you starts to wear off after about 50 hours of riding at 75 mph 😂

[@ReeferRob115]

@@PracticalTacticalSheepDog i feel that lmaoo got a drz400s with an MRD exhaust no inserts or baffle (not my doing) and although its no 650 it is LOUD

[@GnoticPasta]

@@PracticalTacticalSheepDog sorry for late reply, didn't get a notification. My dr exhaust is stock right now, which is pretty quiet. Going to a performance aftermarket Leno-Vince which is pretty quiet as well. one of my other DRs had a DG exhaust.. won't go that route again. My brain was buzzing all night after a day of riding.

[@Lewapolis]

Honda XR650L. 30 years of parts supply. Essentially bulletproof. Enough grunt to move two adults through the thick shit.

[@TrustworthyExpert]

I just picked up a crf300 yesterday. Now I need to camo wrap it now that I have seen yours. I am in texas so it's the law I must have an AR holster attached to the bike. My whole life is prepping. bug out camper, bunker at the city house, two tons of packaged wheat to support my squad. just waiting for the lights to go out, then the hardest part; trying not to act too excited that it's finally happening.

[@nathanpieper4634]

I like essentials / preparedness packs that can easily be reduced to foot travel when necessary. A good compromise between your two systems might be a rack on the back that can easily accept and retain backpacking pack. My get-home/adventure pack is actually a heli-ski bag. Not only very gray man, but thin yet tall and with legitimate waist strap support, and great organization, including external straps for securing skis and snowboards which can retain other similarly shaped items as well. Also don't overlook handlebar racks like often use that ATVs for easy rifle cary. I k ow very little about motorcycles, hope there would be ways to quiet those things down?

[@joesieg4444]

I just moved to rural Tennessee from a major city in NY and your channel pretty much sums up all the reasons I chose TN

[@TonyMontana-lh5bp]

Jealous

[@tp322]

All the comments on the DR, XR, XT, and the little Billy goat TW are spot on! I would go air cooled 4 stroke for a bug out bike. Upgrade your skid plate, tank, levers(break away ones), hand guards, pegs ( beefy ones). Upgrade your electric system as well. Kick start is a must. Practice changing inner tubes. Just my opinion.

[@thewarnerCHANNEL]

You guys go above and beyond with tactical SHTF for civilians. It's like a more serious and detailed t.rex arms channel. Why didn't I see you guys before? You guys are badasses. Keep up the good work man. One of my new favorite channels.

[@BattleKing2Delta]

They always try to hide the real stuff that you can learn a lot from. Check Out The Shawn Ryan Show and Gerald Celente!

[@bigredwolf6]

Because their channels brand new right?

[@BattleKing2Delta]

I like how you stole my original profile image @the Warner Not really they've been around for a tiny bit other fella.

[@PracticalTacticalSheepDog]

I'm a big fan of the DR 650 and the DRZ 400. Dramatically more get up and go than any of the 200/250/300 bikes. There's something to be said for being able to outrun the vast majority of sedans and SUVs.

[@quikscopez102]

DRZ400 is best 50/50 bike on the market. I own a KLR and I’ll admit it, the DRZ does it better. Killer mileage, fun in the dirt. Would be hard to give up my KLR in a SHTF scenario due to its ability to carry a shitload of gear, but a DRZ is definitely a solid choice.

[@PracticalTacticalSheepDog]

@@quikscopez102 DR650/KLR has a place as well in my opinion. The KLR obviously being the least adept for off road but it's still capable, DR650 being a good compromise between the DRZ and the KLR. DR650 can haul around much more gear than the DRZ without getting fussy but it's still dramatically lighter than a KLR650

[@nunya9555]

In what world could any of the bikes you listed "outrun" a sedan or SUV? Only off road. Period. Full stop. My slow 4cylinder Tacoma can easily run 100 mph all day. Now contrast that with a basic Impala that can run 150, or any V8 SUV that can easily run 100 mph, and you aren't getting away from these vehicles on those bikes. My KLR 650 struggled to run 85 mph at sea level with no luggage, with favorable wind. My Honda XR650L was even slower. The only advantage some of these bikes "may" have is being quicker off the line. But that is doubtful. These single cylinder large bore dual sports are essentially 1980's motorcycles. My Goldwing is faster than 90% of dual sport motorcycles (except big KTMs, Honda AT, BMW GS) and 99% of Harleys, but is slow at top speed (around 130) compared to many cars! Back to dual sports, they can go faster off road. Use your advantage. If you have to run from a car, hit the ditch, cut between the trees, and disappear. Get off that pavement.

[@quikscopez102]

@@nunya9555 I mean, clearly your KLR had some problems. Mine has done 108 MPH (GPS verified). granted, it has some carb work done and an FMF muffler. to your point though, you're right; it won't beat anything in a flat-out drag race in a straight line, but with any kind of rider with something between his legs, it will outdo most cars on a back road, idk about you, but highways will likely be something to avoid. not to mention that most cars aren't going where a klr is going off-road.

[@justinmccoy7167]

I've been running a DRZ400 for 20 years. Everytime I have ridden with 650s they frustrated the hell out of me. They are so heavy I would have to stop and wait for them on anything more aggressive than a gravel road.

[@Hudson4426]

Never ridden a motorcycle but you guys have me convinced… I think I need one

[@BadNewsYouNeedToKnow]

I’ve wanted to setup a dirt bike for these same reasons for years…I just couldn’t fit it into my budget. However a dirt bike would be fantastic for everything covered and more. Think of how easy it would be to have a kickstart bike with extra CDI in an EMP protected container. 👍

[@sloppyoppie]

YUP.

[@nathanlafionatis5156]

If you guys held and 3 day weekend class going over the skills and kit out you have been working on, I would definitely sign up. I have done quite a bit of adventure motorcycling, but this seems a bit different and worth my time to learn the subtleties

[@chrisfoxworth3228]

After watching a ton of videos like this I got my barely used 2014 250L first motorcycle. Using it to save a ton of gas and found some nice sections of woods to get away in. Practical and reliable. Not sure when I will go for the cargo bags but Im thankful ive got a good hiling backpack i can stow camping gear in.

[@foamysking]

This is cool I hope you do more on this recently I’ve been thinking about trying to incorporate something like this into a shooting match as it would drive innovation on all aspects

[@wunderlust9823]

Nice vid. I was an avid motorcyclist for a great many years but as my riding partner pool dwindled over time, it kind of fell away. The last bikes I had were CRF205Ls, and mostly because they were low-powered bikes meant for crawling along trails without doing extreme stuff since I wanted to teach my boys to ride on them (which I did). One was nearly new with less than 200 miles on it where the other had 63k. There was a marked difference in performance between the two. It's a weird sort of machine at the end of the day because while it's competent offroad, to keep the cost down they equip it with really cheap (and heavy) stuff. You can replace most of it but then you have to ask yourself if it was worth it instead of going with a more expensive bike. One point on the CRF250L: It has a fatal flaw, particularly for this application, and that's that the shifter lever is located in such a way that if you drop the bike, even at very low speeds, such that the shift lever strikes the ground it'll punch a hole right through the engine cover, and that lets all the slippery juice out. You can buy levers with articulating tip, but it isn't guaranteed that it'll fold when needed, but ABSOLUTELY buy one. For the loadout, in addition to extra levers, a little fix-a-flat (or something like Stan's sealant if you have a means to get air into the tire again) goes a long way. I'm not sure tire spoons are useful; it isn't like you'll be changing a tire (with what?), and if you do get to a place where you have a tire to swap, chances are there will be spoons or you'll just cut the old tire off (it's already toast, presumably). I'd look into some external patches like I carry in my overland rig; you can just slap them on the outside of the tire and it'll seal. Light, and packs small. Plugs may also be useful and would take up little space and be lighter than a spoon. If you're dedicated to carry a spoon, I'd opt instead for something like a breeching tool so it's multi-use. Helmets should have comms inside. Get your UV-5R or whatever and a Bluetooth adaptor or just run the wire up your sleeve and you can chat with your crew more reliably. "Nuff said on that. Hammocks are good, and I typically prefer them, however a tent is probably more versatile. A tarp is most versatile, but between those two lays the trekking pole tents. There are a couple of options which are a hybrid free-standing/trekking pole tent but they're crazy expensive. IMO one of the most versatile and crazy light systems is a Six Moon Designs Gatewood Cape and Serenity Net Tent (add a carbon 49" pole) and you've got a full double wall shelter (available in green which is alarmingly easy to lose as soon as it gets dim) for 1.6lb total and it packs crazy small; it's also your rain gear if you need to be. Something like a Lunar Solo is roomier though a single-wall system but ultimately a great option which is also about the same weight. I've got some videos on this theory with more coming. Also consider that you can use the bike as an anchor point for a shelter as well, and when it is cold, it'll also provide some warmth that you can capitalize on. This is a rabbit hole that is really easy to get down and would take too much to address here, but maybe I've given you some ideas to start mulling over. Oil, etc. on a motorcycle: I'll admit I never quite got to the point of executing this, but I'd had plans to build before I just kind of got out of motorcycles (though I'll probably get another one now... thanks...). Use fuel hose and get fittings for it so you can cap one end and unscrew the other. This will allow you to carry extra in a very flexible container that you can mount under the seat, along the subframe, on the swingarm, etc. You could also do this as extra fuel and it'd look pretty sweet too. Packing a motorcycle. Wearing the weight keeps the suspension articulating well and the bike light for moving it around, it also transfers the weight to the seat or, if standing, to the pegs to lower the COG, but, as you've discovered, that can sap extra energy. IMO you make up for it if you have to manipulate the bike that's now much heavier. A pack lets you put it down on the ground when you right the bike or get it out of its sticky situation, then put the pack back on. Load heavy stuff on the subframe as close to the front of the bike as possible; the load ratings for subframes is surprisingly light, and reducing the distance between where it mounts reduces the moment, which reduces leverage. A 10 pound load gets a LOT heavier when measured dynamic load vs static load. Keeping the 'sprung' parts of the suspension unloaded is a good idea because it'll allow the system to react quicker due to lower mass, but sometimes that does wind up being a good option for very light things. Consider scabbards for arms that mount on the tank, or the head tube area, or even the upper fork/triple-trees. As far as the GPS, I'd opt to keep that on the bike. The likelihood it'll fall off of your person (especially on a bike) is greater than falling out of a mount on the bike (behind the headlight on the 'deflector' is a good area; you can attach mounts there, or just do the handlebar mount). If you've been thrown so far from the bike in a wreck that the delta between the bike's location and yours requires a secondary GPS point, you're likely un-alive anyway. A quick search would reveal your location pretty quickly. Noise. This is the biggest issue for dirt bikes. The CRF250L is actually really quiet in stock form and the stock exhaust is fine. EMP: The CRF250L is a fuel injected bike for better or worse (usually better). It is susceptible to an EMP as such. It's a lot easier to harden a bike's shelter than a car but it might be something to consider. A nuclear associated EMP will leave you in a position where you're not going anywhere anyway though so... Utilize the little spaces. The handlebars are hollow and there's a lot of similarly useful nooks and crannies to keep survival type gear, matches, a little food, water, etc. My son has started looking at e-bikes for nipping around town from work to home. Not a bad idea. A recent trip to Scheels revealed several designed for getting you into hunting locations. While range won't be as great, you could potentially solar charge them, and they're a lot quieter and make no unusual smells. Loadout becomes much more critical, but I've got a fully loaded (stocked with food and water loadout that will see me through 4 days) that's only 15.6.b in backpack mode or 17.5lb in GHB mode which would be perfectly suited for such a bike. I think knowing where you're going and how you're using it would be important. If you're bugging-in and have things you can hunt, the e-bike option might be superior since it'll let you drag game back to your base and allow you to sneak into your hunting zones with out scaring off the animals. Just food for thought.

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Good advice! The backpack is always a bad idea, on or off road. Get the weight directly on the bike. Your back will thank you. Do not forget that these lightweight dirt bikes were not built to take on a lot of weight out back. The subframe is usually very weak. Maneuverability and fuel consumption are the big advantages of light dirt bikes.