Oldest Vs Newest Tube Line - Which is better and are they accessible? [CC]

[@DisabledEliza]

I’m aware some people are having audio issues! It sounded fine our side but we will change it up next time! We’ve also just got new mics! You can support my work via my patreon where you get LOADSS of cool perks including a free blog on how I make money as a disabled content creator: patreon.com/DisabledEliza

[@robertbutlin3708]

PS. Herefordshire is indeed North West of London, but it’s next to Wales not London. I think you meant Hertfordshire.

[@FlowerChild65]

This is the type of content we need! Reviews of accessibility, done by actual disabled people! I'm Canadian, but I hope to be able to visit the UK one day and information like this is super helpful. I'm pleased to hear that the new line is fully accessible at all the stops.

[@Zara_Beth]

this is an incredible video eliza! 🙌🏻 i've never navigated the tube in my chair (yet!) but this is a really helpful video!!

[@DisabledEliza]

Thank you so much! ❤️❤️

[@Roblilley999]

Just been recommended your videos, my wife is a wheelchair user and is always anxious when we use the trains, this will help her greatly

[@DisabledEliza]

Amazing! ❤️❤️

[@WalesRails]

An unfortunate flaw with the Elizabeth line is that platform level boarding is only available in the "Core" underground section which was achieved by using a different platform height. This means wheelchair users have to make use of a ramp for the vast majority of the stations on the line and this is an infrastructure flaw that is now baked in to the system for decades to come 😮‍💨

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

Elizabeth Line has level boarding at Heathrow as well.

[@DisabledEliza]

Yeah really annoying I just found this out! I have heard that the staff are pretty good although I haven’t done it so can’t say for sure!!

[@johnm8224]

It is true that level-access from street to train is not available on all platforms of the Elizabeth Line, specifically many of those that are "legacy" platforms on the existing / wider rail network, which they were not able to address at the time, for a variety of (mostly valid) reasons, but I believe there are plans to address this at some point in the not to distant future. For up-to-date info, and journey planning, I advise you check the TfL route maps, which clearly identify "Step free to Platform" and "Step free to Train" for all Tube, Overground and ELizabeth Line routes.

[@The_Georgi0]

It gets worse as greater anglia/TFW have bought new trains from stadler which have the doors at the old platform height (low) and are thus incompatible for level boarding with both the core section of crossrail and the heathrow link (even though it is quite unlikely). The most annoying thing however is that both rail franchises have also bought other rolling stock from other manufacturers (alstom and CAF) which have the old (high) door height so their infrastructure can never be at the same height as all of the trains. Very short sighted of both companies and an issue which I don't think has been reported on enough

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

@@The_Georgi0 Greater Anglia and TfW level boarding rolling stock doesn't follow the national standards of 1,115mm platform and train floor height. The Stadler units aren't even level boarding on the majority of their network. So the future plan is to force all trains to use the standard of 1,115mm which should help solve this issue.

[@LemoncloudGT]

and the elizabeth line (like the overground) is part of the National rail network too

[@ericrabinowitz6390]

A wonderful, informative video. I'm AB, but have worked for a quad rugby team and revised the campus map of my university to accurately show wheelchair accessibility, so I appreciate the service this video provides and the authority your point of view gives it. Bravo for a fine job! ... And as your friendly neighborhood pedant, points to you for acknowledging that The Elizabeth Line is not technically a Tube line. Keep up the good work.

[@frenchhufflepuffie83]

Oh my god, never try to go to the Paris metro... Although it's a bit more recent than London's underground, basically only line 14 (the automated one) is entirely wheelchair accessible, and wayfinding in stations with a lot of lines coming through is horrible even for non-disabled people

[@ligu8079]

As a transit fan, I really like this video!

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

Elizabeth Line is nice and fast with a top speed of 90mph, which is reached on the Great Western Mainline, which opened in 1838. Elizabeth Line uses the Great Western Mainline Relief lines. The Metropolitan line has a top speed of 62mph. The Elizabeth only has level boarding at stations owned by Rail for London and Heathrow Airpoet Holdings, the rest of the stations are owned by Network Rail however there is a plan to raise the platform's to the stabdard of 1,115mm for level boarding with the Elizabeth Line and Great Western Railways services. Kings Cross St Pancras station on the Metropolitan dates from a 2007 rebuild.

[@DisabledEliza]

Amazing info!❤️❤️❤️

[@annabelholland]

I do think that all new (and maybe renovated?) infrastructure has to be accessible which is why they made every single Crossrail station (including outside the new stations) step free, at least from street to platform. TfL are slowly increasing the number of step free stations. The trains also have doors a different colour to the rest (in other words, the doors have to use a contrasting colour. Idk how to explain it well so hope you understand) which benefits me.

[@wizzyozzy]

this is the content we need for everyone to be welcomed and introduced on TfL services.

[@dminalba]

Hi Eliza, Scottish islander here with limited mobility I think you’ve inspired me to make a video of using Caledonian MacBrayne ferries with limited mobility, I’m a user of 2 crutches, maybe I’ll do a video of travelling on a smaller ferry used on short crossings and a main ferry on a longer journey

[@janoschwecker1415]

Cool video, can you do this with other underground lines? For example the Bakerloo line. Greetings from Germany I can have a say, I am also disabled and there are similar problems in Germany too

[@PurpleNoir]

Watch the ENTIRETY of the video before commenting that “it’s not a tube line” she’s knows what she is talking about people

[@Paula_Limberg]

Great video, loved seeing the flow through each experience and how your criteria are relevant to a range of disabilities! If there’s interest, would you consider doing a similar review and rating for each of the other lines? Could be cool to have as a reference/resource…? Either way, this video certainly stands on its own very well and will be so helpful for lots of people, so thank you!

[@Andrewjg_89]

I have been on the Elizabeth Line and some stations on the Elizabeth Line are step-free accessible which makes it easier for people with wheelchairs to access the station.

[@Fire711_SpeedMcQueenHelper]

Tbh you should have done Elizabeth vs Bakerloo,because the oldest lines can have the newest trains,do the Bakerloo before it gets replaced by 2024 stock!

[@DisabledEliza]

A few people suggested this! Might do a video about the most accessible vs least accessible! Xx

[@The_Georgi0]

I don't think you will be under time pressure any time soon, as TFL are having funding issues and have only ordered the 2024 stock for the Picadilly line (whose trains are 1 year older than that of the Bakerloo). I don't think new trains will be introduced until at least 2028...

[@The_Georgi0]

Great video! I don't have any specific comments so here's my like and comment for the algorithm

[@NicoNeoX]

I got my first wheelchair today so I'm officially a wheelchair user, I had to pass through London to pick it up and took the circle line from paddington to kings cross with it earlier, it was pretty good, hoping to try out more tube lines when I'm there again next month

[@DisabledEliza]

Ahhh so proud of you!!! I hope the wheelchair gives you all the freedom you deserve!

[@MrBobSter82]

I’ve never come across you and your channel ever until now so what makes you disabled? I’m gonna subscribe because you are cool. Edit: Honestly, I wish that I was in a wheelchair too because my legs are weirdly weak and I get very tired very quickly. Not kicking though, I’m fine with kicking. Edit 2: Now I wish I want them more because on Thursday Night (Night of 6/6/24) I was shaking a lot and I didn’t know why

[@donnamcdonald-g8n]

Thank you for this. I have a mobility scooter and worry about trains, that was a hefty gap on the first train!!! I will end up in a wheel chair though so this is still relevant information. Would be great if you could do a 'full map' for accessibility (especially Liverpool, as that is my overground-train towards Stansted).

[@oxfamshop]

When you said bit of a strange video . Not at all it is a very good informative video.

[@DisabledEliza]

😊❤️❤️

[@oxfamshop]

I have a friend who is a wheelchair user . A few years ago She asked If I could go with her to a place near Hounslow east because i remember correctly there used to be a specialist wheelchair supplier near there . Finding an accessible Route to get from Edgware on the northern line to Hounslow East on the Piccadilly line was a hell of a job. there were a few platforms with humps to make the wheelchair level with the train but not all Stations had them then. At least being a bit of a big lump I could lift her chair and of course her from the train

[@mudchute4dlr]

great video, but id argue it would make sense for a complicated lift map for a major interchange, 6 tube lines (subsurface counts as 3) (highest number of tube lines in any actual tube station (only 11 lines are tube, not the cable car or IKEA)), mixed with 2 london terminals, has trains all across london as well as services as far as edinburgh and even paris, for a total of 16 lines (thameslink ciunted twice). my point is that kings cross st pancras is a massive station, being the single largest interchange on the underground, and there will be a decent amount of people with luggage that just came from edinburgh or paris or something that will need lifts, and the only short routes (which do exist still but poorly signed for a reason), are not capable of handling modern day passanger numbers. a wise man once said, 'the needs of many outweigh the needs of few'

[@chronically.artist8733]

One main flaw of the Elizabeth line is that although it was delayed, it was still rushed! This means trains are often delayed or cancelled and the Elizabeth line only stations outside of London often have malfunctioning lifts

[@jos4669]

the delays and cancellations are more issues with the existing national network (especially the western section between paddington and reading) as opposed to the liz being “rushed”.

[@mudchute4dlr]

look closely and youll notice a lot of tube trains are late, but its unclear. the thing with the elizabeth line is that its a complicated mix of both a metro-style service and a regular infrequent mainline train. also there would be extra delays on the elizabeth line compared to the tube due to the extra bits that ot shares with both greateranglia and GWR (we all know first group is bad at keeping trains on time which can affect the elizabeth line too)

[@aldo4319]

The newest tube line is the Kennington - Battersea extension

[@CLBT7437]

That's an extension of the Northern Line, which dates back to 1890.

[@aldo4319]

@@CLBT7437 I know that, It's still the newest part of the tube

[@beknight9399]

Hi Eliza, this is very interesting (even if I'm not in the UK)! I have a desperate question: Could you do a video how to do wheelies with Alber Emotion? I saw, you are able to. I have Alber Emotion M25, too. I can do wheelies with my "normal" tyres, but not with the Emotion 🧐. This makes life so hard because I need the electric support. If I do a wheelie, my chair speeds fast forwards and I tip backwards (lucky anti-tippers 🙈). I seems to me you initiate the wheelie more shifting your wight backwards than via action on the pushrims?!? I watched your wheelies in this vid several times 😂. My Alber settings are good, that's not the point. Eventually you could explain or show, how you do the wheelie? Curbs with Alber are evil for me. Thanks 🥰

[@DisabledEliza]

Ooo okay interesting! I can definitely try and do a video on it for sure or maybe mention how I do it in a future video! I’ll have to think of a way to talk it through as I’ve had them for 3 years now so I sort of just do it without thinking ahhaa xx

[@beknight9399]

​@@DisabledElizaOh, that would be so great. I understand that it could be tricky to explain something, what's now like a "natural movement" for you. Eventually is your community interested in a whole Alber Emotion vid? You are an experienced user and there are not too much vids adressing daily use /daily pitfalls pro and cons. I love my Alber Emotion, but I hate the heavyness and this thing with the wheelies. 🥰 your content, your educational approach and your attitude 🙋🏻‍♀️

[@brianbrwa]

The Liz line does NOT comply with the ADA, they need NYCMTA bridge plates, City Hall style.

[@brianbrwa]

Yo Liza, do you know Yelm WA? Okay, I would love to travel with you so you can go back to the UK with some witticisms. I'm the Bradford from Seattle :D

[@heyimapl]

so envious of good transit infrastructure as an american

[@CaptainCreeply-gv7iy]

Was “we’re rolling with it.” a train or wheelchair joke? You missed your chance to say “All aboard!”

[@Bigal3031]

A lot of people who are not actually disabled look at something and go hey we got a lift and you can roll on the train it must be accessible. But we don't see as you do. It might be usable but not grate.

[@brianbrwa]

Oh, (majesty's passed Liz) is a grimm

[@jasonhaven7170]

They really should strive to make all trains and train stations accessible.

[@DisabledEliza]

Yes for sure!

[@v52gc]

Elizabeth Line isn’t a Tube Line, it isn’t part of London Underground, it’s mainline partly built in tube tunnel.

[@DisabledEliza]

PLEASE watch the video these comments are exhausting

[@v52gc]

@@DisabledEliza I have, my comment was regarding the Title of the video where “Tube Line” is capitalised referring to London Underground (and comments are good for the algorithm and views). It’s an important distinction as it’s like a complaint to Gatwick about bad service at Stansted. I hope I’m understood.

[@ecologist_to_be]

I daren't get the tube haha If I were to go to London I'd go on bus. 😅

[@artursdobrecovs]

1:37 the coaches, river boats, and cable car are all also on the Tube map, are they also Tube lines now? 😩😩😩

[@DisabledEliza]

Yes 😊

[@mudchute4dlr]

i assume IKEA is also a tube line? (IKEA sponsored TfL (i dont know if its the other way around lol) and the tube map showed stations with nearby IKEA stores, and this lasted a year)

[@RohanEllis-hallett]

Do Elizebeth line compared to every tube line

[@goatgamer001]

People unfamiliar with transport: Elizabeth Line is a tube line. Transport geeks: Elizabeth Line is not a tube line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Average transport enjoyers: Elizabeth Line is a tube line. *you get what i mean with transport

[@pbworld7858]

As long as it gets me from A to B!

[@Jsone260]

Unfortunately, the Elizabeth line is not a tube line. But if you had to ride the newest line, that would be the jubilee line.

[@DisabledEliza]

Please please PLEASE watch the video these comments are exhausting

[@CLBT7437]

​@DisabledEliza I suggest renaming the video. Perhaps it can be called "Oldest vs Newest TFL service." The Elizabeth Line is a railway, not a London Underground line.

[@DisabledEliza]

Once again- PLEASE watch the video lol

[@CLBT7437]

@DisabledEliza Don't worry. I'll watch it later today and I'll edit this comment after I do so Edit: It was a nicely done video. Thanks for stating that it's not a London Underground Line.

[@starcasita]

I thought this was so interesting! Even though I don't live in the UK, I think it's really important to look out for which infrastructures are more accessible and how they can be improved ^^ Even just like small gaps can be a bit tough for us with wheels ;;

[@DisabledEliza]

😂❤️😂

[@sussextrainspotter328]

The Elizabeth line is my favourite

[@DisabledEliza]

It is the best! Xx

[@timdaugherty5921]

What happened to Jenn??

[@evanterry]

the Elizabeth line is infract not a tube line

[@DisabledEliza]

Please watch the video 😊

[@AlanNobleNE]

The AI audio clean up you've used isn't all that great. Maybe next time use a lower setting if it has one :)

[@coastliner7009]

technically the elizabeth line isnt a tube line, its just on the tube map

[@OlanKenny]

Did you miss where they said this IN the video?

[@gaiar1020]

​@@OlanKenny *they :)

[@OlanKenny]

@@gaiar1020 Apologies, corrected :)

[@fastertrackcreative]

I'm having a bit of a hard time hearing your narration at times. Maybe boost the volume a bit at points? It's the parts where you're narrating over travel portions (vs overview). I wonder how wheelchair users/equivalent in Victorian times got about? I get the impression there was minimal interest in accessibility historically from TLF and others.

[@DisabledEliza]

Oh weird!! A few people have said this but it sounds find my side so might be something to do with the compression! I’ll have a look into it next time. There are subtitles which should be correct! Will definitely edit next time! Xx

[@francescathomas3502]

Your speech volume is quite low but the subtitles certainly do help. Thanks.

[@brokensigmarizz]

The Elizabeth line is not a tube line

[@DisabledEliza]

Pleaseeee watch the video 😭

[@aidanphillips9337]

If you include the word Beth in your name you will be called Elizabeth.

[@gbprm]

lizzy aint a tube line btw

[@DisabledEliza]

I know ❤️

[@timdaugherty5921]

Is there still a mask man date?

[@ecologist_to_be]

No people can still choose to wear one.

[@ThamesNorth]

who's gonna tell them the elizabeth line is NOT tube 🤭

[@DisabledEliza]

As mentioned in the video ❤️

[@nivi8550]

Does anyone have any advice on finding the wheelchair boarding area at stations where the signage isn't so clear?

[@DisabledEliza]

Ooo yes! So they have signed above on the platform and they are also on the train doors. I recently did a video with Love in London about accessible London and I chat about it there! Xx

[@GreenGocco]

Can't hear it that well :( I do like the subject though

[@DisabledEliza]

We’ve just got some mics so audio will be fixed next time! Xx

[@SandeepAppu-qi4nz]

Are you in single now

[@sussextrainspotter328]

Good video

[@DisabledEliza]

Thank you!

[@sussextrainspotter328]

@@DisabledEliza yw I really like ur videos

[@christopherlloyd-roberts2205]

Erm, the Elizabeth line isn't a tube line is it!

[@haisheauspforte1632]

Wow, the low amount of accessible stations on the tube is shocking. Other countries/cities seem to be far more active upgrading their train systems

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

There were plans to do more stations for the Olympics, but that didn't happen, like Baker Street.

[@haisheauspforte1632]

@@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire the Olympics are 12 years back now, I'm surprised they couldn't upgrade it in the meantime. Baker Street is a major interchange, they should give it priority

[@uuu1-t2s]

why are u wearing a mask?

[@DisabledEliza]

I’m clinically vulnerable & frankly just hate being sick lol

[@Harrison-hg2vs]

@@DisabledElizasame but not vunrble

[@abtransport0]

The Elizabeth Line isn't part of the tube

[@DisabledEliza]

Tell me you didn’t watch the video without telling me you didn’t watch the video

[@abtransport0]

well you mentioned it in your title...

[@KHYIPHOTOS]

The Elizabeth line is not a tube line.