Disco Elysium - Fascist Political Vision Quest

[@diabirde]

1:21:08 I'm so disappointed that there was no godly encyclopedia chime in that Harry, at one point in his life, was aware of the existence of the Semen Retention Society.

[@Feningor]

1:15:06 I'm going to share a secret with you. Here is the secret: there is no love in the past. Only the present. The past is made of static images, distorted memories, demented nostalgia. This, the present - with all its possibilities, innumerable hits and misses - is far superior. It is a **living** organism

[@svolozhanin7627]

Man, Kim looks so dissapoitned with what Harry becomes. Why one of the better portraits have to be locked behind such a hard quest line?

[@dubois41]

your sole reward for enduring everything is new face. logical, no?

[@morisan42]

it's one of the funniest things in the game to me, he just looks so pathetically fake-stoic with zero self awareness about it

[@meanmanturbo]

58:15 Rene shares his thoughts on svae-scumming

[@НиколайЛамберт]

Rene is gay for his buddy and only hooked up with his girl to keep him single?

[@chandra_creator]

18:08 poor kim

[@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736]

It’s time to get sad fellas

[@partialbullet2215]

Wömen

[@constipatedwonka8061]

The most shocking thing about this vision quest for me is that if you select "I am the last kingsman" when Kim questions you over having a new stoic face, you'll actually get +1 in morale. He takes an odd pity or.... even sympathy on you? A completely different attitude if you were to pick "icebreaker". I felt so much like shit, because this occurred nearly right after purposely failing an authority check within the rave church, to see if something major changes. I guess when you pick "last kingsman", you're taken pity on similar to Renes, as somebody longing for restoration of the monarchy, but conceding that it is not possible and the war was lost a long time ago. That you are a living relic, have nobody to relate to, but you accept reality as it is, even if in your view it is very deplorable. But picking "icebreaker" should technically further the fascist questline, as unlike "last kingsman" it is something that implies desire for radical change, but Kim effectively soft-blocks you from ever furthering the idea anywhere as he seemingly overrules your brain mechanism to view the entire idea as lame. Most likely because no matter what racist beliefs Harrier adopts, he still views Kim in high regard. Which means that if you try to make Harrier respect nothing but fascist hierarchy and authority, the moment Kim gets a little 'fascist' and exerts authority over you to stop discussing your ideology and focus on the case, Harrier can't do anything else but respect it.

[@mhquiroga1917]

if you dont use the payphone the end dialogue with the mirror is completely different

[@The41stPrecinct]

Ohhhh is that right? I guess because she wouldn’t be on the made up blimp thing?

[@emmanuelbustos2693]

@@The41stPrecinct yup. i consider it better honestly

[@Nilon241]

Is it just me or did the lorry driver change accents mid conversation?

[@BIacklce]

hes performative, most racists are.

[@lan_real]

He becomes sad when you mention turning back time, because he thinks hes a loser for not making better choices in his youth

[@BIacklce]

idk i just believe that people of different classes can get along if they apply the proper level of equivalent punishment when they fail to do their job

[@charlesmieth2467]

Why is Measurehead so endearing?

[@purpleisthesneakiest]

Because he is very suddenly and unexpectedly humanized. He is not just a funny charicature - he is a person. A person with nonsensical and vile ideals, but a person nonetheless, with a small kernel of actual, real, helpful advice to give you.

[@Rzepik]

Because he speaks the hard truths, bröther.

[@cia4u401]

Gotta admire someone who remains on nofap even while having an active sexual life.

[@beatman2359]

I just love his voice tbh

[@followingtheroe1952]

Because hes so absurd. He believes lifes a game of reproductive competition, but retains his semen? Wtf?

[@user-iw1nw4du8x8]

Finally a suitable role model for this week

[@nihil4361]

goood bröther, goood, welcome to the club

[@CleaningCaptain]

1:56:23 What happens if you choose the second option here?

[@The41stPrecinct]

Not sure actually, I’ll see if I can find out

[@IDONTKNOW1072]

I remember doing it, you get dubbed "HMS Last Kingsman" instead

[@claytonvitor1687]

OMG Measurehead is Half-Brazzilian!

[@Vorground]

1:35:12

[@burgertime6372]

Can you do this quest without being racist?

[@The41stPrecinct]

Possibly but I’d guess almost certainly not, you have to say enough fascist things to trigger it but I guess if there’s enough nationalist stuff maybe.

[@HellishSpoon]

​@@The41stPrecinct that has been my recent goal actually, do facist quest without saying anything racist or lose kims trust the best description of this harry would be "Contradiction Cop" and it's really fun saying insane things

[@pentigraph]

​@@HellishSpoon how is this going? Is it doable?

[@murakyo79]

​@@pentigraph I did the fascist route while also being Kim's friend and not being racist. The game basically keeps treating you as if you're actually racist, since Harry will say stuff about immigrants and white people off-screen (The player can't control it). It's actually pretty funny since at one point Titus will call you out and you can say "I'm not racist, I have Kim!". At the end of the game, if you manage to solve the case (Which I did), Kim will call you out but will also say you're a great detective and so he'll defend you.

[@asmodeus235]

⁠@@murakyo79Yeah I can second this. I wasn’t racist at all and had maximum trust with Kim throughout my play-through but the game still treats you as one if you’re a nationalist. Depending on how you view this it either feels like: 1. The game creators unironically think that there is zero merit to nationalist ideas and believe all nationalists are secretly racist and sexist. 2. The game is parodying and making fun of socialists that believe all nationalists are like this. It works both ways. It can be read as a simple and childish insult that right=bad, or could be making fun of leftists that think right=bad.

[@GambinoTheGoat]

1:13:28