Discomfort Zone: TF2 [Live Commentary] Scout Popper & Winger (old)

[@dannydisco5538]

God it's strange seeing comments from 4 years ago talk about the "old days"

[@sychosethburnz625]

I know, crazy to think that I had watched so many of these videos when they were first coming out (back when I actually had a computer that was able to play games too). It's surreal

[@CraftedEmpires]

I miss when the servers werent full of bots

[@didsomeoneaskforanegg2168]

@@CraftedEmpires we got an update lad! should just be playing community servers anyways. anyone sensible has been doing that for months.

[@CraftedEmpires]

@@didsomeoneaskforanegg2168 me and my bf stopped playing tf2 like 5 years ago but i kinda wanna reinstall now lol

[@SonofTiamat]

This video is almost ten years old 😐

[@Henrix1998]

I really miss those days when weapons gave ammo

[@MechaMike]

Now I don't want to be that guy but way back when I was new it took me forever to figure that out so at least now it's completely obvious

[@santiagomonserrat9198]

Henrix99

[@dlxoajanelckckkskwocockdkd5354]

I miss the days when hype gave you crits instead of jumps.

[@unitdroid5158]

Yeah now they just do the same thing but retextured as ammo boxes. What a drastic change.

[@Se7enRemain]

I miss the days where I could pub on pl_upward without playing on an Australian server.

[@zuliavideos]

Going through Star's old vids make me smile when I've had a bad day.

[@mayauppstad9883]

feel you, even 4 years later

[@rahulgomes6488]

thought I'd bring you back to star_

[@John_Doe27]

@@mayauppstad9883 wait until the dude 10 years from now comments saying he feels you too

[@NuclearNuke41]

They should at least make the winger a bit more accurate then a normal pistol...

[@chief_953]

I agree

[@erikjensen952]

Yes, but they never will 😶

[@Shakochu]

Once, I used the new soda popper, deployed it's hype, and equipped the winger (which now makes you jump 30% higher while active) I hit the skybox...

[@spacehitler4537]

Imagine a x10 server.

[@peytonquillin5022]

dear god...

[@ajking1017]

...no

[@spacehitler4537]

Jewish Bacon I tried it... Each jump hit the slavic.

[@kaisergaming7241]

There is a strange winger now.

[@chazza8157]

I like how he says he hates these weapons and then goes ham with them

[@texanterror2559]

When you're giving someone a high five, but memories from back in 'Nam kick in.

[@keaton5101]

i guess in the tf2 continuity france could very well have been at war with vietnam at some point

[@ThinkKritz]

Keaton They were in this reality. The Vietnamese fought the French before the USA.

[@moritamikamikara3879]

Yes, and given that TF2 takes place in I think the late 60s early 70s, Spy could very well have participated in the fighting (which took place in the early 50s)

[@irish14sean]

And after all these years, Heavy still doesn't have sausages instead of bullets.

[@SuperAwesomeYoshi77]

I know this is an old series but... Discomfort Zone Sniper. Sydney Sleeper Razorback is calling.

[@eclipse_4066]

Ster predicted the hookshot

[@possummindmurder7532]

*Grappling Hook

[@calebnale304]

Or he says a hundred bajallion things in every tf2 video, a few of which are doomed to coincide with updates three years later.

[@MannFace51]

Or more accurately, Roadhog from Overwatch

[@chaotixspark7934]

There needs to be a scorpion weapon - Ster 2012 Ster confirmed for Overwatch seer.

[@Metallian2112]

+Alexander DeGuzman I mean they also added the item in TF2

[@samuelarthur5051]

+orhanc1 what item?

[@Metallian2112]

+Aluxsem I'm sorry I misspoke. I mean they added mannpower which has the grappling hook

[@HazyMazy]

"Get over here" He even predicted the voice line.

[@somethingwhatever6359]

That, and he confirmed the Grappling Hook in Mannpower mode (that game mode nobody ever plays).

[@adamlong5295]

God it’s strange seeing comments from 3 years ago talking about the comments talking about the good old days from 7 years ago

[@notinzane6993]

God it’s strange seeing comments from 3 days ago talking about the comments talking about it being strange that the comments from 7 years ago are talking about the good old days from 3 years ago.

[@Адоман]

God it's strange seeing replies to comments from 3 weeks ago talking about the comment talking about it being strange that the comments from 7 years ago are talking about the good old days from 3 years ago.

[@aaronyoung6732]

this is all so strange

[@danisullivan118]

@@aaronyoung6732true

[@matthewzakrzewski1797]

When Star talked about a scorpion weapon, I sorta imagined a weird sort of long range spy knife that pulls people back for an easy backstab. Kinda like pudge's hook.

[@devong1838]

Ha, pyro does NOT need something that makes it even easier to get kills.

[@zachpakmak]

i was thinking a pyro melee that is ike the sandman only it is like a chain connected to like idk but you get it..

[@_danetti_]

Scorpion : Get over here !!!

[@jamiemaster101]

he inspired todays update of batarangs

[@abagofflour2904]

Gassy Goddess you mean the grappling hooks?

[@nobuenozone3629]

I wish they would make the soda popper do mini crits again

[@donny1363]

What do u mean does the sofa popper do Ceuta now or something

[@paulreeves8594]

HehEHEH GO to tRuthCOnTEStCoM, reAD THe PreSent

[@isaacargesmith8217]

BonziBUDDY JOEL! Have you been downloading BonziBuddies again!

[@nicaccadia3932]

I wish too but people would be dominating you so hard

[@nobuenozone3629]

***** EXACTLY!

[@nmdsy]

Custom HUD: KN+Garm3n; Download off channel main page, right hand side

[@yougotthecrowbar]

"I use the Sun On A Stick." -Star 2012

[@irish14sean]

"There needs to be like a Scorpion weapon to hook someone to you and clothesline em." ...Oh STAR_... Little did you know, your wish would come true. Smissmess 2014.

[@creme8338]

smissmess? thats actually pretty good

[@bladewolf3451]

Sean Libby not really, what he meant was for him to throw out a chain and pull the enemy towards you, like Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.

[@bluemagmamoon3811]

Sean Libby aw yeah the grappling hook

[@irish14sean]

Ah a mere year later.

[@ZaBuKra]

Sean Libby The grappling hook is more of a "I'M COMING OVER HERE!!" kind of thing, but sure why not XD

[@XiaoAndyPugMan]

After the patches and updates, this is one now probably the most entertaining load out for Scout. Flying through the air with 6 jumps that go 25% higher.... Good times.

[@DarkPurpleDude]

My reaction first clicking this video: How can he not like the Soda Popper? That weapon's freaking awesome! Getting that Hype and jumping all over the freaking place, how can anyone hate that? After seeing what the Soda Popper did at this time: ...That... isn't even the same weapon as it is now...

[@whoami133]

and i liked it more back then.. :/

[@ButteryVengeance]

see, i've never really experienced this stuff cause i got into tf2 about 3 months ago

[@DarkPurpleDude]

BewareTheGoop Yeah. To tell you the truth, I never got the Soda Popper before they changed it up, so I never knew that it wasn't always the Hype for jumps thing until I saw this video.

[@ButteryVengeance]

same, same!

[@aledburns3005]

in this video it builds up hype and unleashes mini-crits... basically the crit-a-cola gun which i can see why he hates it sucks. BUT now it lets u jump evrywhere if u saw the title it says old so it did mini-crits then now it's all about jump, same with the winger it didn't have the jump height back then

[@twosticks9]

In my opinion the soda popper is SO MUCH fun to play especially in saxton mode!

[@ziammartoreehaz178]

Can't I believe I still come to watch this video

[@BenDover-cv5qm]

right here with you brother

[@Ch0zen-i7x]

This is the video that got me into playing tf2

[@doubliestchin4143]

The new Soda Popper is my favorite weapon for Scout. If you made a new discomfort zone I could imagine you switching the Soda Popper for the BFB

[@yallmotherfuckersneedsatan4993]

The new Soda-Popper is not a very good weapon, but like a lot of scout weapons, it is something that you use because it is very fun, as opposed to being effective.

[@doubliestchin4143]

+The Land Owner ok, let me tell you this. What would you rather use, the Soda Popper or BFB? Yeah, that's what I thought. Also, if you said BFB you must be insane. The BFB got a horrible nerf (or great nerf. Wait, I'm confused) and now it's crap.

[@yallmotherfuckersneedsatan4993]

+IMemeALot A: Being better than another weapon doesn't make something a good weapon. B: The whole point of the BFB is to not get hit, so being punished for being hit makes sense, and isn't that big of a deal. C: You can pair the BFB with any weapon that causes bleed damage to almost completely negate the downside.

[@doubliestchin4143]

The Land Owner It IS a good weapon, you just have to be good at it. You probably don't like it because you suck at using it. You just have to be smart.

[@yallmotherfuckersneedsatan4993]

IMemeALot I didn't say I dislike it, it is quite a fun weapon to use, it is just more focused around being fun than effective.

[@kasstion496]

Star: I just wanna be good at this game *Wearing a platinum 1st place badge*

[@rahulgomes6488]

THE NOSTALGIAAAAAAAA

[@josef167]

I feel so old watching this in 2020.

[@ScottyP_OG]

In the new update the soda popper gives you tons of jumps not mini crits and winger increases your jump height

[@DJMatze1993]

this version of the sodapopper was much better. i dont want to jump more i want crits

[@dustytaylor289]

DJMatze1993 Same Its ruined ;-;

[@StaunchWheat87]

Use crit o cola

[@epicbanana6342]

i prefer 7 jumps to useless crits

[@deaddreamdance]

+Epic Banana say two scouts have aimbot, one with the old one, and the new one.....

[@DJMatze1993]

well that is no argument for what is more usefull. A hacker destroyes you with both and doesnt care what it can.

[@nelsonfitz3282]

Has it really been 10 years??? Damn.

[@Tdogredman]

its ridiculous how he hated the old soda popper look at this thing

[@BiscuitHead22]

I like using the winger and atomizer together with the stock scattergun. I know star says you never need that kind of height, but with the winger and atomizer together you can make really high jumps you couldn't do with only the basic triple jumps to nearly rocket jump heights. For instance, on harvest you can get to the top of the house from spawn by triple jumping with the winger and you can do a bunch of other cool things with it. I used to hate the winger but the extra height it gives your jumps is pretty damn nice just on its own, however you do need to compensate for its lack of firepower, so I don't think you should pair it with anything other than the stock scattergun. It is however, totally retarded that you actually need the winger out to take advantage of the jump buff, I mean if it applied some kind of debuff in addition to its effects that would make sense but c'mon just give me the extra air without having to worry about having this otherwise crappy pistol equipped.

[@empire2469]

but remember, this is from before the Winger gave jump boost

[@calebgoodrich750]

that was a long comment xD

[@chamucompaololado]

Dat Tolkein avatar.

[@KameronFinnthegreatness]

Of course it's a Tolkien avatar, that comment was a book!

[@MrBump2]

13:09 I told you not to go Full Force dude!

[@dotapazappy]

I can't believe this 2012 star video has this 2019 meme on it

[@APSynthesis]

Hey, that's "me" (the Heavy he yells at for standing still when getting killed). Now, as much as I know no one will believe me, I feel I need to defend myself. That wasn't me playing. I had a friend over (who also plays TF2), and he decided to play when I wasn't there. I myself would never play Heavy, he's too slow and bulky. If that were me, I'd be Pyro, it's my favorite class. I mean, a backpack with only Pyro hats and miscs speaks for itself.

[@zachlikespizza7200]

My TF2 Weapon ideas: The Mexican Standoff: A Revolver for Spy + Shots do minicrits + 20% faster weapon switch - Marked for death when weapon is active - 25% slower weapon firing rate. Tracker: A Rocket Launcher for Soldier + Rockets arc at most 15 degrees to nearest enemy (within line of sight) - 75% primary ammo - Cannot Crit. The Big Hit: A sword for Demoman (Knight) When Weapon is Active: + 0.5% damage gained per second (capped at 50%) + 0.25% move speed gained per second(capped at 25%) - Minus 5% damage per swing (capped at -100%) - Minus 2.5% move speed per swing (capped at -50%) - Weapon is honor-bound (cannot be sheathed until it has killed) Weapon has a large melee range

[@jlm_95]

I have one too: Class: medic Weapon name: "crossheal" Able to heal up to 3 people at once 25% Slower ubercharge rate

[@DannyB1111]

+Epic J So it has stock uber AND can uber 3 people at once? Crazy op.

[@jlm_95]

+DanPlaysGames no, it has quickfix esqe über

[@samuelarthur5051]

first gun skilless, second is way bad,and 3rd is 2confusing4new playors

[@nandanthony]

To me, the soda popper "nerf"/"buff" is amazing. I use it for 2fort and turbine and i capture the flag extremely fast while using it. Getting the flag but the bridge entrance is sentry guarded? Go to the sniping point and jump to the other base. Nearly dead and being chased in turbine? jump on the crates, onto the ledge and into the vents!The bridge thing is good for it too! jump from bridge to the sniping point!

[@nandanthony]

But the crits thing is OP. 3 shots for a heavy?

[@KameronFinnthegreatness]

Anthony Nanda you can kill a heavy with 3 meatshots no problem

[@nandanthony]

Kameron Finn Doesn't it take 5?

[@KameronFinnthegreatness]

Well if we're going by base scattergun damage with no damage spread on it'll take 5 to kill a heavy but if you get right into the heavy's meat (meatshot) a scattergun shot can do a little more than 100 damage

[@nandanthony]

Kameron Finn We're doing the soda popper, not the stock, just saying. I believe you also forgot to take in account of the fire rate and reload.

[@Dani.335]

View your videos means learning and having fun xD I can't stop laughing while I learn how to move around the map with scout and doing ambushes. Thank you so much bro ;)

[@XiaoAndyPugMan]

The Scottish Summoner: Engineer Melee. A wrench with the Scottish flag painted on it. Instead of placing sentries, you build a robotic Demoman. You can control it with the Wrangler (with limited mobility) or let it walk around. It starts out with the AI of a robot in MvM, but when you upgrade it, it's AI becomes more advanced.

[@maxhoward2543]

Xiao Andy that is so dumb it's amazing

[@Blanchables]

Eventually it’s so advanced it becomes self aware and takes over your life.

[@OptimisticSeal]

SODA POPPER GOT NERFED

[@EefraDoesTF2]

i think it's better

[@Lil_Brimstone]

You mean buffed?

[@Lil_Brimstone]

***** "The change is not good nor bad, it's just... different" ~Cheshire Cat

[@BigMacDaddyISBEAST]

the new popper sucks. when will I ever fucking need 5 jumps..

[@sockysol9599]

BigMacDaddyISBEAST whit the winger can pretty much jump entire maps, pretty sure can jump all of bad water

[@hamishjenkins2841]

Wow, a decade old video

[@Projo75]

I really loved the soda popper until it changed for jumps

[@beep-beep]

They should buff the short circuit to temporarily disable enemy buildings for like 5-10 seconds or so.

[@creme8338]

5-10 secs? lol

[@creme8338]

***** pfff, it should be about 3-4 seconds

[@drake2638]

***** Lol, short circuit destroys projectiles, no rockets? all there is is bullets, and a vaccinator medic can uber you, and you just run at em', how about no?

[@suitablerobot9333]

I was in high school and star videos always made my day and now I’m 24 😢

[@captainmorgan4041]

That spy at 6:27. Mm whatcha say?

[@eadgamig465]

SLAP MY HAND

[@oghagz9078]

Damn good old days anyone 2019/2020?

[@mrfluffe1175]

Man I remember the days of running around with this loadout but with the mackerel on a 24/7 turbine pub and just destroying people, I then remember being devastated when the nerf was released, then I went to the baby faces blaster until it was finally nerfed and the pub died and closed.

[@sebastianrichards6053]

you should try the winger on tf20 it is literally superman simulator

[@melonchilisauce4219]

8:03 Star wishes for roadhog's hook, and now he plays overwatch. Is the future telling itself?

[@memeconnoisseur4377]

You actually did really well with this loadout, further giving credit to my personal TF2 philosophy: All weapons are good weapons, as long as you know how to use them.

[@butter3329]

The new soda popper is better

[@pow2278]

Who out here in 2023. ❤❤❤

[@gibustheinfamous]

God you can TELL how much Fatmagic was inspired by STAR_, right down to the INTRO LINE

[@ashlynx1]

Anyone else main with the sodapopper like me?

[@4udiophile]

Prefer my Botkiller.

[@aeonthehedgehog1000]

i see why people hate it (so do i),but that doesn't mean i can't see why you would use it... to be cheap and kill heavies

[@SuperCameronMan]

And how's that going now?

[@EefraDoesTF2]

you mean the booty popper?

[@TheMayorOfWaffletown]

I use the Baby Face's Blaster.

[@AlipheeseFateburn]

Soda Popper is so bad now.

[@batminecrafter13]

Nuh uh

[@KLIXORthe]

still not as bad as the back scatter

[@imthemistermaster]

I've gotten so used to how it fired that I can't use the scattergun because it fires too slow

[@AFrozenKitten]

its better actually

[@AFrozenKitten]

SpasticLobster back scatter is probably the second best scatter, cause stock is best

[@tylerryan713]

That spy in slow-mo "Oh my god!" *DEAD*

[@Yan_Alkovic]

19:08 Love how the Scout started laughing at the right time

[@deablo8982]

Star backwards is Rats. YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!!!

[@360180ify]

haha that sausage heavy belt was literally the first thing i thought of when began playing tf2

[@NationalDevin]

Little did Star know that 2.5 years later a beta including Grappling hooks were added in a beta

[@cheesecakeman88]

I haven't watched the video yet so I've no idea what you're on about, but I couldn't agree more.

[@mindsetmatters601]

10 years... Man...

[@captainmantine3388]

I thought I was bad at using soda popper until now....now I feel like the best soda popper player in the WORLD THANKS STAR

[@keaton5101]

8:07 roadhog. also. grappling hook. except in reverse.

[@Jgpgames]

Ah the old soda popper. New one is useful in certain scenarios only. Let's say you grab the briefcase and are about to die when all of a sudden your soaring past the enemies and right into spawn. I've won whole games by myself in like a minute with it.

[@CaRtOoNFInalBLAde]

How the hell did star just do good with the old Winger? Man, you're too beast, star.

[@JasonPootis]

This dude got depressed that he missed a shot and here I am happy that I dealt 5 damage to a heavy at close range

[@Nutyzz806]

Hey man really enjoy the videos! You've earned a Sub!

[@fourteenants]

hi

[@Lulu-hp1re]

Crazy how Soda popper and winger are still a perfect combo

[@Lulu-hp1re]

Just w jump height instead of crits

[@DaneWorms]

8:09 Star predicted Roadhog

[@jambob3486]

Discomfort zone my foot! As usual, Star owns with any loadout. :)

[@unsertainley]

Shut up star, you just rocked them this whole time with that combo.

[@settss]

Hello General Grammar, Nice To Have You Back (Expecting a Captain Capital One).

[@CircusBlue92]

Every time I watch your videos, it makes me actually want to jump on TF2 and play Medic, bro. I always hear you say "Can I have a Medic too? >:"

[@rikithelegendaryheropon8135]

butbutbut, the Soda Popper is so hype, and I love it, Soda Popper is amazing

[@dashwendt6853]

If they made a a scout's primary or secondary weapon set people on fire, you so need the Sun On A Stick

[@PokeMaster2099]

I'm glad they additionally buffed The Winger to have 25% higher jump height per junp.

[@phyrexpriv]

You can customize your summonable demoman, I love it.

[@ChevyW]

The darn Description again. It is a Custom HUD By the way. The one that STAR_ uses is in his description. Glad i could help :3

[@hellyeahdude651]

Drinking game:Take a shot every time STAR_ says 'hype'

[@cheesewald]

You should make this into a series, Discomfort zone and you just play around with weapons you don't use that often! Baby blasters and Crusaders crossbows around some random servers! That would be great fun to watch!

[@Ryusuta]

I like how Star is making the WINGER seem passable. XD

[@Gooodlez]

This is the exact setup I use, The new winger is alright, The new soda popper crap, but sun on stick, I always hang around the pyros

[@ebreshea1337]

i like how star complains about his team for the entire end of the video, though he's running around talking to himself from 18:50 until the enemy captures the point (and he didn't even realize it) :P

[@m3t4lmancer]

7:46 - The way that Engineer flopped when you shot him.

[@mangycat97]

the scatter is fantastic and i love it.

[@maximillianwright7288]

The scout popper and the winger are both really beast

[@zacharyminoia5001]

Nice scout gameplay

[@CocoaNutTF2]

I'm wondering just how many comments STAR_ is going to get about the changes to the Soda Popper, Winger, and Short Circuit. And then again when they change the Sun On a Stick.

[@matthewo1263]

Star is so good that even with bad loadouts he kicks ass

[@TheStrongestBaka]

4:45 Now i know why Freddie always shows dispenser picks in slow-motion. They are so hard!

[@Mr_FSTR]

I love how he saus he hates both guns,but he does incredibly good with them

[@dustytaylor289]

*Gaben instantly caps point* Gaben:Don't let that ruin ur dreams.

[@tryrant]

"I wish the short circuit could do something." Then suddenly buffed to be op.

[@Xzeihoranth]

SoaS changes: *No random crits *Normal bat damage on burning targets (or if the wielder is burning) *If target is immune to afterburn, causes bleeding but does not increase damage

[@TroyTruth]

ah well shit here we go again

[@annihilatedOne]

I legitimately was playing nucleus 3 years after this video was released, and I played with that aggressive perfector guy. 3 spooky 5 me

[@bakendorf_4802]

conceror isacually a good soldier weapon now. alot of people use it, it charges fater than buff banner, gives passive health regenerate, and gives a speed buff and healing upon damage. so its one of the better soldier weapons now.

[@navandozer]

Ah, simpler times with star_

[@ScrubDusters]

💙 love you Star still watching

[@Fizzy1]

To tell you the truth it's my favorite only because you can jump 5 times with it which makes it funny to troll people

[@Zephemus]

Short Circuit disables buildings with every shot for like a fraction of a second, but the time is greater than the SC's fire rate so that if the Engineer can get off multiple shots on the building, then it'll slow down long enough for him to blow it up with a shotgun. New Meta for Gunslinger Engie. :P