Discovering Another Issue With Our Foal // Versatile Horsemanship

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Here’s a link to Manzer’s full story kzbin.info/aero/PLIR-JJucLqwK03czDuIMjodOXT0IsOxmm

[@justjoy7194]

I'm sorry. and hope he gets better soon,

[@Laurieb2851]

Manzer is beautiful like his mother. Your handling of the little guy is so wonderful, Manzer is real responsive to that. He trusts you completely. Thank you for uploading this video. Love it!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

thank you

[@Pyr.0.maniac]

I hope he doesnt have any more problems as he grows up. The foal at the barn I go to is growing pretty healthy. Her and Manzer are so adorable!! Don't you just love foals? :3

[@helenlane6317]

Beautiful job of what I call "imprinting" I've found in my years with horses the gentle touch does the world of good with foals! He is a beautiful carbon copy of mom.

[@bayleebliss9896]

Hi Brandi, I love watching manzers journey. He has come a long way, he is such a handsome, sweet boy and I love how he just loves everyone.💖

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Baylee Bliss thank you

[@wendyeesue]

Nicely said, "You are Training Him Everyday Already", Love it

[@melisaraines9397]

You are so observant and are taking such good care of him. He melts my ❤️.

[@chloedream8969]

Sweet little Manzer took his medication so well - Brandi i love how you give them quality attention - he's such a good boy - thanks for the update - feel better soon little guy

[@jessicamurphy1874]

He's ticklish! What a great sweet little guy he is. You are doing an amazing job with him :)

[@PatriseHenkel]

That sensitivity in the withers... when I was a kid a found a book about a woman & her horse named Nona. As she was Similarly sensitive, Nona’s human wanted to train her to go bridle-less... and use cues by her hands on the withers. In the 70s, this was really far out... all the years I’ve been away from the horse world, I didn’t know about the bitless movement had caught on.

[@kathywilliams2949]

May GOD BLESS you all

[@BadHairdayKimmie]

I had an unraced TB who crossed his front legs all the time. He often would stand there for several minutes with them crossed. He especially loved doing it in the lineup at shows.

[@CaliAnimalLover]

What a cutie pie! Boy, does he despise flies! I completely agree with him too! Just stay off of me! The tiny hooves and little broomstick tail is adorable. His mama must trust you so much! She doesn’t even look to see what’s going on with him. She just knows you’re good. I think a lot of things we worry so much about they just simply outgrow. Unfortunately we don’t know which of those things that’s going to be. (My husband would be teasing me about how I’m going to be getting a thank you note from the vet for her new Mercedes-lol!) Thanks for sharing!

[@suzystone244]

Manzer is handling his challenges like a Trooper.🐴 As far as his twitching goes, the horses skin is a complete glove of sensory elements. They feel the world around them. A human rub changes that direction and movement. Like a detoured route of traveling. Babies are trained since day one....hate the word train. I like WORKING WITH better. Just an OCD lady that talks to horses🤣 ❤🤗

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

I completely agree. Working with a horse should be like a dance, a partnership. As far as the twitching... it was more than that, it was a wince and definitely not normal. Stay tuned.

[@suzystone244]

@@VersatileHorsemanship I'm just grateful to watch your progress.❤

[@justjoy7194]

I really dis like the word "Break", when someone ask's me to break their Horse, I will say' "I will start your Horse, but I won't break that Spirit, I want that spirit"

[@suzystone244]

@@justjoy7194 I love the process working with babies. I did with my daughters filly many years ago. A 4 month baby girl. A real hands on experience. I would do it again.

[@carolynrichter8710]

He is so good

[@markrumfola9833]

Manzer is a keeper , Right Brandy

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Mark Rumfola he sure is

[@wind571evergreen]

Such a special little guy! Love watching him think! Your videos are wonderfully! Thank You!! 🐴🐎🐴🐎🐴🐎🐴

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

thank you

[@AnimaltestedLoveapproved]

What a good boy.Sorry Brandi ;he is such a big boy .my goodness. I really see him being REALLY tall😁🤣a Anyway great training.;happy it wasn't a major major problem! So funny I just dewormed my mastiff ,four vials ( he did great too) .I love watching Manzers journey .Thankyou! 💖💖

[@Vincent.Valentine.]

what a clever lil guy! I have rarely seen horses figure out how to itch a leg with another, usually they use their faces.

[@edieking5767]

Another Manzer video squeeeeee ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@justjoy7194]

I don't know, if I should add my two cents, but I have had a lot of Horses do that, it;s called Reflexes it's instinct to shake the insects off, especially when their older, many horses, both young and old will that same thing, standing still. I like the way you handle him though, he's getting good training as a youngster, I just don't want to see you waste your money, I also think you are an excellent horseman, and Thank you for taking such good care of your Horses!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

just Joy this was more than reflexes, if you watch the next video, you’ll see that there was something very wrong.

[@soultiger9119]

I hope manzer gets better soon and as always brilliant, educational video, Ur awesome Brandi

[@raraavis7782]

He’s such a little cuddle bug 😄

[@karenkreiser9963]

He is so cute.

[@kathleendrozdowski4120]

Hope all is well with your little buddy 💕🐎 your patience and gentle touch I'm sure helped him to stay calm. Thank you for sharing.blessings for a speedy recovery !

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

thank you

[@Cissy2cute]

All the while he was sort of waiting for you to touch that spot again. Bug bite maybe? You are just wonderful with the way you are touching his whole body. That was a great bonding session for both of you!

[@MrHorsepro]

Gastric ulcers are quite common in foals and GastroGard, (Omeprazole) is effective for the relief of the symptoms, but it does not cure the problem that caused the pain in the first place. Gastric ulcers (gastroduodenal ulcer syndrome) are quite common mostly in foals of performance breeds. No common causative has been identified to date as far as I know. However, there are a couple of things that are well known about this condition. 1: gastric ulcers in equines are not caused by helicobacter pylori as it is in humans. 2: Stress can exacerbate the condition and last but surely not least, intermittent and irregular feed supply (ie) forage can certainly exacerbate and in many cases may be the primary causative of this condition. Horses' digestive system is designed to have a constant flow of roughage passing through at all times. The volume of stomach acid in a horse is many times more than that in humans. It is literately sloshing around in there. As a result, if there is not enough roughage in the stomach to use it thus keeping the ph balanced, that acid just sits there and causes damage. So keeping free-choice high-quality forage available at all times is critical to horses with this condition. Additionally feeding serial grains to these horses will not make the condition better and may, in fact, make it worse. A better choice if the forage supply is not the best, is to feed a good ration balancer to augment what's lacking in the forage supply. The best ones contain no cereal grains and are properly balanced with copper, zinc, and phosphorus to promote healthy bone growth and help prevent metabolic bone disease.

[@lizhrubik3936]

You do a wonderful job getting Manzer ready for the world.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

thank you!

[@julieharris7624]

So sweet. Love him.

[@camaletta5054]

Awe. So jealous. I want to love on him also. Thanks Brandi for gifting us this video. 🤗🐎🐎❤🙏

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Linda Howell thanks for watching!

[@melissaannspake7990]

I think I remember mentioning to you very early on ( lol maybe not, my memory isn’t the best anymore ) that sticking his tongue out like he did was a symptom of ulcers in foals. I hope all is well and the round of Ulcer Guard does the trick and makes him feel better

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Melissa Ann Pate you sure did and I immediately brought that up to the vet.

[@CaliAnimalLover]

Versatile Horsemanship what would cause an ulcer in such a young baby?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Pamela Uribi that’s a great question and I honestly don’t know. It’s actually fairly common though. I have so many questions for the next time I speak with my vet.

[@melissaannspake7990]

Versatile Horsemanship I’m so very glad that he is doing well now. He is absolutely gorgeous Brandy

[@Fuzzybudget]

He was flinching like it was a sensitive spot

[@lesliesmith9169]

He is so good looking. My baby foal is 5 weeks now so good timing for me

[@deebrown8133]

Horses have sensitivity around the Wither area where he was flinching when they have ulcers he very well may have an ulcer

[@gingercox6468]

I've had luck with giving feed right after worming. Time for message.

[@markrumfola9833]

He is so cool

[@ChristophersMum]

Gastric ulcers!......For a wee thing like he is, how does this come about? Or is this a fairly common thing in foals? But why? He really loves his cuddles.....almost as much as you do!!....Love from Scotland💞🐴🐎

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

ChristophersMum I’m hoping to be able to answer those questions in an upcoming video.

[@zoeblueyes]

Very cool

[@conniezapiain5262]

What a cutie! Good job Mom~

[@helenhodge-croom9635]

fly tickles on his withers maybe...my big guy does that fly shake of skin when they have been driving him crazy...he also loves to be s fetched there! your baby takes worker better than my horses😂 mine figured out that stuff is gross even when mixed in grain or fed grain after....we started worming with their bridal s on( sliding the tube in under the bit then rolling it over or under into the cheek)...made it a lot easier. I also got what s called a worming bit...it's just a plastic bit with a hollow tube for the paste ....it's NICE exspecaly for oral meds!! and it's easy to clean( but once they chew on it you gotta look for sharp edges n burn them down).

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Helen Hoge-croom my herd of 15 are all really good with dewormer and oral meds with the exception of my rescue mare. Folks in her past really created some issues that are taking quite a while for her to get over. I have a video in my “caring for horses” playlist of deworming the whole herd.

[@michelleanderson3212]

So cute 💕

[@Nightgrauen]

He twitches when you are near the area of the accupressure points for ulcers. Watche the videos of Dr. Marc DePaolo. Very helpful.

[@soulcompanionk9s573]

I thought this too!

[@normacyr-babineau785]

I saw him nip lol was it at a fly and you were in the way? It's so interesting watching him grow and learning about foals (even if he isn't typical) Manzer is a special little guy and he has many who love him 🐴💕😊

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Norma Babineau babies just do that, they don’t know any better so it’s always important for us to be aware. Glad you enjoy watching his journey 😊

[@cato6901]

What a beautiful boy...🥰

[@allthumbs3792]

Thank you for an interesting video. Is the twitching withers a type of reflex? Manzer is going to be a handsome fellow.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Sometimes horses will twitch when they are unsure of a feeling, kind of like when a fly lands on them, they try to make it go away. Sometimes just getting them used to the touch will desensitize them to it and they will accept it. In manzers case, it was more of a wince and though it got better as I kept touching it, it didnt go away.

[@sherrywyllie2163]

They are able to twitch to discourage flies from settling and biting.

[@lisadalessandro3396]

hes like mom what you doin you freaking me out.

[@palehorse5181]

The colt is beautiful and so is his mama! My foal is an Andalusian and when I rub her like you are... she will stick her little front legs straight out like she is pointing at someone! Do you have any problems with the colt pawing the ground? Mine paws and I don’t know if it’s genetic or what because I haven’t taught her to stick her legs out like that or paw the ground. Her mother does it too but only if I’m riding her but the foal has never seen me ride her. Have lots of fun training your colt!

[@debbieadkins2803]

Thanks for sharing your sweet baby boy🥕🥕🥕

[@sheenagh2012]

He is adorable! I love his tail and the way he stamps his back legs, he is just perfect. x

[@gaelcrane8008]

Hi Brandi, yes it’s hard to describe your colt’s face in one word, he’s beautiful, gorgeous, adorable all rolled into one. You are so lucky to have such a good looking colt along with his nice temperament. Your early handling of him shows. Just curious, wondering if you use fly spray on your horses?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

yes, I use fly spray... a lot

[@impunitythebagpuss]

He is your Million Dollar Baby for sure! Pretty boy!

[@5dinsdale]

That sensitivity when you touched his shoulders and withers is very strange indeed. It's almost like he has a pinched nerve in his neck.

[@cmarie5774]

So interesting to watch. Did you ever find out what was making Manzer twitch? Is Manzer too young to use bug spray on? Or maybe you can't spray either of them while he's still nursing, so the spray doesn't get in Nikas milk? Thanks for another great video!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

I do use fly spray on both of them. I did find out what was causing the twitch and I will be posting more about that soon.

[@sherrywyllie2163]

He wrinkles his nose up when he is bugged. My mare did that to let me know she wasn't happy.

[@annepipps6015]

Another great video. Thanks Brandi. 😊 Who makes your halters for you?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Anne Pipps Y Knot Rope Tack

[@annepipps6015]

@@VersatileHorsemanship thank you 😊

[@lisagay7271]

Hope.he.feels.better.soon.i,love.him. so,beautiful 😍😋😎🙄😁

[@KimmiePatts]

Lisa Gay I just have to ask. Why do you put a period after each word? It seems so weird.

[@debbiebobadilla4441]

Did you have a horse chiropractor check him out for misaligment after he had his fall.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Debbie Bobadilla yes, I had him adjusted and will post that video soon

[@kimberley1449]

You're so gentle and patient with him. Just wondering if he's your first foal from birth with your own horses. One other thing how tall are you, you look a little short next to him already. Lol

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Kimberley Gager yes. I am 5”4

[@georgiagonzales3769]

OMG 😍 he is such a sweetie ❤️ your absolutely right, just touching him all over is training. My goodness people...let him be a baby. Why the hurry. He's doing great 🤩

[@ksanurse]

❤️

[@fernlintner65]

How do you not stop pressure when they are moving away....actively?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

go with them

[@karenphillips8197]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Bclark_06]

My mare had a mule foal about 4 months ago with the same symptoms so now I’m wondering should I still call the vet even though it’s been 4 months she doesn’t have the symptoms anymore, do you have any advice

[@justasreal5483]

Looks like you need to address your FLY issue!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

+JUST AS REAL address it? Haha, yeah it’s called living in the Midwest. I go through a gallon of fly spray a week, use fly predators, and use fly traps. There’s not much more addressing that can be done but thanks for your concern.

[@Womanwithblackdog]

He fell over backward and has a pinched nerve. That's the same spot that triggered the forelegs to spasm on the day he went down. It will be fine. Not sure why the vet thought ulcers. No disrespect.

[@terriday8950]

Idd defo get a vet to look at he’s bk if he fell that’s not right and I woodnt play with it eva just in case

[@comesahorseman]

Nice work! May I suggest a UTube channel you might find interesting? Look up " Remount Horsemanship", Richard gets into groundwork and youngster handling in a very nice way. Cheers!

[@pamrogers5979]

Is there a kinesiologist who works with animals in your area, or a craniosacral osteo, just to check him out physically. EKMA might know someone internationally who you could contact? www.kinesiologie.fr/cycle-deuxieme-cycle_2.html If you look in the plus (more) of this post kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDOaYGlf9iAY5o you will find an email for Elodie who used to be a stunt rider and now works with shiatzu, homeopathy, and kinesiology to help animals and bring back balance after falls etc Liberty trainer too. (Cirque du soleil on her CV too? I'm not sure). We have a donkey who she helped enormously - skills, integration, confidence, flexibility with other donkeys...

[@2taylorxo]

He’s ticklish.

[@pattymcdonald5156]

Brandy, he’s acted a little weird since “He touched the fence” video. Watch it and see how he reacted after touching. Could this be his problem.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Patty McDonald I think he hurt his back when he flipped over in the stall and then made it worse when he spun around after touching the fence. I recently hurt my back but it was manageable until I stepped on a wasp nest and got stung. When I turned to run I tweaked something in my back and it was enough to send me directly to the chiropractor. I think poor Manzer had sort of the same deal, a few things led up to this situation.

[@pattymcdonald5156]

I was worried about a torn ‘something, Poor lil guy. Momma sure trusts you with her guy. Beautiful to watch.

[@hootche1]

He,s Ticklish, ?????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@reneeprice2583]

Whats that mark on the momma's hip that looks like a white circle

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

its a birth mark

[@reneeprice2583]

@@VersatileHorsemanship oh

[@brendaswanson6629]

That baby needs to run and play to develop his lungs and muscles is what I think...

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

+Brenda Swanson that’s sounds great and all but I can not force him to run and play. As you can see in this video, Clearly there is something causing discomfort and keeping him from doing so. He is turned out 24/7 and has plenty of room to run and play, he chooses not to.

[@brendaswanson6629]

@@VersatileHorsemanship yess☹️I do see and I am sorry..I only said that because it was a topic on my end and it just crossed my mind to say that..I do see and hope and pray that you can fix it..can I share this with you...I recently got some cold pressed hemp oil for my mare and I could tell the difference within 5 minutes of giving it to her how it helped her anxiety her inflammation it's just an all-around healing stuff...good luck and I'll be eagerly waiting good news 🙏

[@martineinfrance]

He is so cool 😍 what was the matter with the spot on his back ? You must have touched a sensitive spot when holding him as he reacted by trying to nibble you, did you see that ?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

stay tuned, I'll be posting more about that soon

[@martineinfrance]

@@VersatileHorsemanship thank you😃

[@lorrainericardo8680]

maybe he got kicked ,

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Lorraine Ricardo it’s possible, but his mama is pretty laid back.

[@jfraser8202]

This foal has issues after issues after issues..ive never seen a foal have so many issues..you may have but i never..its very weird..

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

+J Fraser yup, this sure has been a crazy roller coaster ride. It gets even worse.

[@jfraser8202]

@@VersatileHorsemanship my fram has had foals and most get a bit issues but never seen this many..lol

[@leilaniesnell7662]

YOU NEED TO STOP PUTING YOUR HANDS ON HIM & NIX ON HAVING 5 or 6 KIDS TOUCHING HIM YOUR MAKING TOO MANY MISTAKES WITH A 4 WEEK OLD COLT

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

+leilnie snell no, I won’t do that. You raise colts the way you want and I’ll raise them the way I want.