Disliking Black Panther Makes You a Bigot

Disliking Black Panther Makes You a Bigot | EFAP Highlight

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@cu_chulainn137 Ай бұрын

It still amazes me how this movie unironically supports an isolationist ethno-state that interferes in other nation's affairs. And nobody really noticed that when it came out.

@pacmanrespector9552 Ай бұрын

They did, they just think it's only bad for White people to support themselves

@tehrulefoo Ай бұрын

It's okay when they do it.

@RealCaptainAwesome Ай бұрын

make magic border walls great again

@Ki_Adi_Mundi Ай бұрын

Plenty of people noticed. Plenty of people always notice. They were simply lambasted as racist bigots and ignored as usual 😂

@7.62x38mmR Ай бұрын

OY VEY

@The_blessed_dead Ай бұрын

Im a white supremacist for not liking a movie glorifying black ethno nationalists isolationists

@The_ConenGifre Ай бұрын

If you watch the movie, you see that they open their borders up and allow other nations to communicate with them, idiot.

@dontpokethekenny Ай бұрын

Welcome brother.

@vitaminmafia7917 26 күн бұрын

das rite

@Rebelnutt Ай бұрын

Remember Wonkoda was created by dominating three kingdoms and consuming all of their resources.

@johnnycrown5097 Ай бұрын

Considering the comics, wakanda is supposed to look like a medieval looking paradise not an urban type city... It's meant to look like futuristic medieval city, the writers brought in technology themselves... Black panther in the comics was more spiritual which was why bast is a thing, they made it technically, the writers... I'm African, actually African, not someone claiming African, i know spirituality fits us more rather than technology... They westernized africa themselves, the writers did that's why we call the black panther movie european here in Africa, not african...

@TheRoflcer Ай бұрын

Disliking 8 Legged Freaks means you're bigoted towards Australians.

@mattherron173 Ай бұрын

I'm unafraid to be both of those things

@Ron_Jambo_ Ай бұрын

NOUGH !

@EndThusIAm Ай бұрын

I'm willing to accept that

@howaboutsomesoyfood Ай бұрын

that movie traumatized me as an impressionable 8 year old. Even though it was supposed to be a comedy.

@nodot17 Ай бұрын

@@howaboutsomesoyfoodI mean I can understand how seeing a bunch of golf ball size spiders poor out of a dudes mouth might leave an impression

@HectorLopez0217 Ай бұрын

This was before Wakanda Forever made it so their scifi force field is deactivated by playing the drums

@johnnycrown5097 Ай бұрын

@davemustang8173 Ай бұрын

The set design was basically like a setting a Utopian Society in California, but still having human poop on the sidwalks and saying it's "part of the culture"

@johnnycrown5097 Ай бұрын

@kummallisuus882 Ай бұрын

@@johnnycrown5097 What are your thoughts of making Africans bark like dogs and act like barbarians? For me it was really odd and for me that would be something I would do if I was trying to do as racist film as possible. I am not pretending to know anything about any African cultures but still I thought it was really weird decision. Especially when they tried to make them sivilized. Also I wouldn't call the movie European because it isn't. It's American.

@TheSutanian 21 күн бұрын

Thats just India bro

@tailedgates9 Ай бұрын

Dude. Mauler wasnt the one who made the movie. He wasnt the one who added in a trial by combat ritual despite Wakanda being supposedly "advanced." He wasnt the one who insisted that some of tribes raise rhinos and other animals as if they didnt have hover crafts. Marvel made it. Talk to them about any grievances about "african culture."

@adriansalcedo3913 Ай бұрын

I'm such a bigot for not liking a movie that's racist to itself

@Coconut-219 Ай бұрын

"I'm a big fan of black history month. Because I want to see them all as history."

@Rebelnutt Ай бұрын

OOF

@max7971 Ай бұрын

Finally, a message we can all resonate with

@MightyGuts7423 Ай бұрын

Damn

@liittlemiissd Ай бұрын

Being called a white supremacist is like calling wakanda citizens opressed.

@jknetwork6211 Ай бұрын

Disliking Ant Man makes you a antaphobe

@JustStop19 Ай бұрын

I read it «makes you antelope»...

@Rebelnutt Ай бұрын

@@JustStop19oh my God.

@bry756 Ай бұрын

Disliking Cap makes you an American't

@hkaayaakuu Ай бұрын

Stop antony hate

@SiriusSphynx Ай бұрын

@JustStop19 you need to check your unconscious bias against antelopes.

@tehrulefoo Ай бұрын

You're a bigot because you dislike Black Panther. I dislike Black Panther because I'm a bigot. We are not the same.

@hkaayaakuu Ай бұрын

I despise how hyped both black panther movies are. Average trash

@RealCaptainAwesome Ай бұрын

it's a masterpiece by post Endgame MCU standards.

@johnnycrown5097 Ай бұрын

@@RealCaptainAwesomenot the second one... That fits in perfectly...

@neptonic7590 Ай бұрын

Well yeah, it is a super duper important movie, an icon of culture if you may, and you wouldn't find noooothing but positive representation of racial equallity there you "colonizers", or should I say people that "take, like you took everything else" Also Killmonger, if they chose to die at sea rather than living in bondage, they can't possibly be YOUR ancentors, meaning you are a descendant of, by your OWN definition, the "cowards" that chose to push through hardships and lived to have kids. But hey, 10 out of 10 Oscard worthy Masterpiece

@johnnycrown5097 Ай бұрын

@gottesurteil3201 Ай бұрын

My favorite part was when Killmonger, the REAL hero, implies that in order to improve life for black people across the world (never mind how insulting it is that he treats all black people like one big monolith) they would have to kill white children.

@dontpokethekenny Ай бұрын

It hurts more when you know Black Panther (rip boseman) was amazing in Civil War, but he got shafted in his standalone movie.

@GrugGangGrugGang 29 күн бұрын

I am still mad that he was the was the least important character in his own movie. Wild that the character didn't even get a spotlight movie before being gutted.

@reginaldgickington4793 Ай бұрын

What I find most amusing is the intellectual inconsistency of some of the arguments; the way that the commentor would disagree with themself if you asked them a question using their own logic. This whole "no culture groups are superior or inferior" thing is a load of horse shit, because of you asked them "do you think nazis are inferior to wakandans", Im pretty confident the answer would be "well of course", but that opens up a whole can of worms, because now we've established a culture CAN be inferior based on its traits - so superior and inferior cultures exist; a culture can have characteristics that make it worse than other cultures, and so you characteristics can improve or degrade a culture. Or maybe they would really say nazis and wakandans are equal, Idk. But that seems dubious, if you ask me.

@Lampoluke Ай бұрын

Btw this movie is considered racist in Africa

@something73110 Ай бұрын

Africa is a continent with a billion people. It's not a monolith

@IzemWestan-k1g Ай бұрын

@@something73110 yeah, hence why this movie is racist for mashing African cultures together into one country.

@thomasrose2149 Ай бұрын

For real?

@IzemWestan-k1g Ай бұрын

was my comment deleted?

@reptarcar Ай бұрын

@@something73110a billion? Wow. I had no idea i cared so little about so many.

@othertalk3313 Ай бұрын

Yeah, it really comes down to the fact that many people find it difficult to admit that some cultures (fictional and real) are just objectively better than others. Some cultures result in higher standards of living, resilience against external threats, famine, etc... and then, well, ya know... some cultures breed rhinos for milk.

@something73110 Ай бұрын

The problem is that the real world is grey. I think most people grasp the concept of a culture being better than another. But the problem is that the examples used to prove this concept are hardly ever applicable to the subject at hand. Say for example a culture that approves abortion and another that doesn't. Which is the better culture. Applying the concept of one culture being better than another is not at straight forward in this context. And unfortunately, most of the time you'll encounter this concept is in cases where it's not straight forward how it fits into the problem

@othertalk3313 Ай бұрын

@@something73110 Yeah, that's true when you look at individual pieces of a culture (views on abortion in your example), but most of that grey goes away when you zoom out and look at cultures as a whole. And that's what really matters, I think, because nobody lives in a world where one individual piece carries 100% of the weight. People will put more or less importance on any given piece, but it'll never be the only thing that matters. People will also undervalue things that are important but harder to pinpoint. "You don't know what you've got til it's gone" kinda things.

@zolikoff Ай бұрын

Yes there's parts of African countries that look pretty modern. They appeared and developed during the colonial era. I wonder hoooooowww

@something73110 Ай бұрын

Oh oh I know. It's because the White governments at the time monopolized state resources using force at the cost of the majority of the population. Case and point Apartheid

@portalmanHUN 23 күн бұрын

The most developed parts of Africa have the most white and asian people. Funny that.

@BrettCaton Ай бұрын

The Australian government has posted signs everywhere telling us lowly plebs that we walk upon the sacred ground of The First Empire, which according to government spokesmen was founded five hundred thousand years ago by aboriginal people who somehow just appeared and never conquered others or did anything wrong. This would totally overthrow everything we know not just about history but prehistory as well, as modern humans weren't even around 500 000 years ago. The government has ruled that this is super true and only a nazi would doubt it, so for the record I would say I love The First Empire and recognise my innate racial inferiority.

@MrJohnlennon007 Ай бұрын

Aren’t those the same ones who drink gasoline and sleep in the street?

@TJtbh45 Ай бұрын

The Trial by combat COULD work of they spun it like... The king is also the black panther and must prove he has the strength and power to protect wakanda HOWEVER That would then necessitate an external threat that would invalidate Wakanda's status as this pinnacle of society and technological advancement

@trevorsalamander8711 Ай бұрын

The trial by combat would play best as heir to the Black Panther, imagine if Kill monger won the position and now TChalla had to deal with a revenge crazy killer but was actually being clever and turning people against the King.

@VerilyViscous Ай бұрын

Or it could have become ceremonial. At one time in the past, it was an integral part of how they chose a new leader. As time went on, eventually the actual combat was done away with and the old king would yield to the new king as a show that the new king was "better" than the old king. Perhaps it didn't mean much but was kept around because that was how they always did it and the Wakandans were proud of their history and traditions. Then Killmonger comes around and actually wants to kill T'Challa and that screws up everything.

@gottesurteil3201 Ай бұрын

They could have made the trial by combat be one of those old laws that weren't observed for centuries but still would be binding in the right circumstances. What if Killmonger got the approval of a noble house that hated the current king, and their sway would be enough to invoke the trial by combat? Have the rule be that the challenger must be of the same bloodline and backing from enough of the nobility.

@Rebelnutt Ай бұрын

2:38 BASED

@hitmanmonaghan6633 Ай бұрын

I liked Black Panther, (not because I’m black, I just liked it) but I don’t see why everyone thought Killmonger was right. Did he think arming inner city blacks would result in them overturning the country? I saw blacks shoot each other over sneakers growing up, what makes him think they won’t turn the weapons on each other?

@something73110 Ай бұрын

I don't think you'll find many people agreeing with Killmonger. The movie and many other people do agree with his diagnosis, but I've yet to find anyone who agrees with his solution.

@donovandelozier7156 Ай бұрын

@@something73110 i recall a subset of people who did not consider killmonger a villain so like....

@trevorsalamander8711 Ай бұрын

Because the filmmakers are appealing to the anti white black community is victim crowd

@hitmanmonaghan6633 Ай бұрын

@ the majority of my friends list did. According to the memes they posted

@donovandelozier7156 Ай бұрын

@@hitmanmonaghan6633 hmm.... looks like youtube deleted my comment

@WesleyHill-md5cg Ай бұрын

Western Culture gave us Rings of Power.

@landonmathews6111 Ай бұрын

Touché

@bobbyhill3323 Ай бұрын

Check the early life in those show writers. Shape shifter culture is Eastern.

@MrTHEMONEEMAKER Ай бұрын

Nothing resembling culture made that

@Ars-Nova258 Ай бұрын

Blade 1&2 are better than Black Panther and Wakanda Forever.

@defeqel6537 Ай бұрын

way better

@MN-jw7mm Ай бұрын

I believe some famous astronomer once said that humankind will never colonize the galaxy. What he meant was that in order to colonize the galaxy, we would require a sense of cohesion that could only come about by enormous positive changes to our morality, ethics, and how we treat one another, and at that point, we would be so different from how we are now that either we could no longer call ourselves human, or we would consider all past generations less than human. Of course he was speaking of culture and societal norms, not biology. There's nothing really wrong with saying that a certain culture is incapable of achieving a certain living standard. No one could possibly say that the Americans of 1824 could create the America of 2024. Not only is there an intellectual gap, but there is a moral gap that covers suffrage, slavery and genocide. While I don't think the commenter is correct in what he accuses EFAP of claiming, he should understand that not all cultures are equal. Cultures evolve. Some are just in different stages of their evolution than others. Reality itself is evidence of this. Trust your own eyes.

@reptarcar Ай бұрын

While i do think ur comment is very interesting and thoughtful, that astronomer was talking out his ass lol. All humanity needs to colonize the galaxy are the same things we needed to colonize our whole planet. The will, the technology and the time. The culture we go to the stars with will be irrelevant, and we'll be inventing new and seperate cultures wen we're faced with the immense distances just like we always have. The only thing that will stop us is if we become extinct. And we'll look back on our ancient ancestors the same way we always have too, as fellow humans that lived in very different times with different challenges. His view just sounds extremely narrow minded, more like he was projecting his own ideal outcome rather than making an insightful prediction.

@DeepCFisher Ай бұрын

No no, i was a bigot long before the movie

@jondorsey2043 Ай бұрын

Wolf's editing at the very end is just...*chef's kiss* (If it is you Wolf. Apologies if i didn't give proper credit. I love you AND that person). 😊

@mokeydmeeple9880 Ай бұрын

12:38 To be fair, they mat have SAID that trial by combat was being outlawed because it was barbaric, but it was obvious that their actual reason to outlaw it was because a trial by combat did not go the way that they wanted it to.

@thedude7319 Ай бұрын

Take african dress style. Replace the material go neon lights and leather et voila neo cyber african attire

@pntr92 Ай бұрын

I liked Black Panther for what it was, in spite of it's many problems. It definitely wasn't the best it could be and I certainly agree with the vast majority of Wolf and Mauler's criticisms for it. As it stands, I agree with Gary of Nerdrotic's stance on the movie by saying it was ok. It's not unbearable nor is it awful. It just crosses into ok territory. That said, the radical extremists in the media and social media have soured me on the movie, taking an otherwise ok movie and turning it into an overrated movie for how much they pandered to this movie and bullied people for not agreeing with them. Like seriously, calm down. There's very few movies I would consider as flawless masterpieces. Even the best MCU movies (which I absolutely adore) I don't consider flawless.

@NATESUCKSATGAMING Ай бұрын

All the Black panther people needed to do was copy paste the assets from Halo 2. Bungee figured out how to make Africa look like it was from the future 20 years ago

@nej2147 10 күн бұрын

or Halo:ODST, where you get a better view of the city instead of just a few missions, and it (imo) looks better with more of the "futuristic"/technological elements that 2 lacks.

@spinny003 Ай бұрын

Careful Wolf... you almost cost Trump the election with that Haiti comment.

@giulizpaviz6381 Ай бұрын

Wakanda is an advanced country but People still lives in hutts instead of much better built houses The king is who wins a fight (and is a lot that this fictional country was still up) Isolated from everything and everyone (which is bs, even Japan in full Edo period allowed the dutch, chinese and korean people to do some commercial treads because how else they could move their economy) The army uses spears (because guns are uncivilazed according to the movie except that it's a fact that if a person with a spear meet a person with a gun the person with a spear is dead)

@kelpie1533 Ай бұрын

Black Panther taps into the Afro-futurism movement which is interesting but weird and pretty esoteric. It's a creation of African diaspora especially African Americans, not really a thing in Africa itself. Prior to Black Panther it was largely confined to the music industry, it didn't really have any significant literary or movie roots. It's philosophical, more about ideas and cool imagery, that's why it's a bit superficial and lacks the foundation for decent world-building.

@portalmanHUN 23 күн бұрын

"afro futurism" is an oxymoron.

@kylecrowell4529 Ай бұрын

Need a sniveling imperialist edit of MauLer now 😂

@Ron_Jambo_ Ай бұрын

I thought it was Jay's atrocious video response theory to MauLer 😂

@TJK10 Ай бұрын

On the technology integration with African cultural aesthetics question, it might be awkward to ask, but did Overwatch do it better with some of the architecture in their maps?

@SpookytheBandit 16 күн бұрын

15:57 What do you mean, "what if"?

@blakeb.8525 Ай бұрын

They’re totally incompatible.

@johnnycrown5097 Ай бұрын

Considering the comics, wakanda is supposed to look like a medieval looking paradise not an urban type city... It's meant to look like futuristic medieval city, the writers brought in technology themselves... Black panther in the comics was more spiritual which was why bast is a thing, they made it technically, the writers... I'm African, actually African, not someone claiming African, i know spirituality fits us more rather than technology... They westernized africa themselves, the writers did that's why we call the blacj panthe movie eyropean here in Africa, not african...

@curlybob17 Ай бұрын

The white page! It burns the eyes!!!

@Proud_Sex_Dungeon_Owner 19 күн бұрын

If disliking a bad movie makes me a bigot, I am the King of bigots!

@ViolentMessiah666 Ай бұрын

Welp, can't hate a film I've never seen but it's Disney in the modern era so it's probably crap 😂

@AnarchicArachnid Ай бұрын

Guess I'm a bigot , mind you I'm a black man with my mom and her family coming from Africa

@iPsychoMantis Ай бұрын

Interesting upload during interesting times.

@patrioticcat5768 Ай бұрын

Interesting comment to an interesting channel

@iPsychoMantis Ай бұрын

interesting response to an interesting comment

@MrJohnlennon007 Ай бұрын

I will read your mind, So you like to play Castlevania?

@remylebeau34 Ай бұрын

Quick! Switch controller port! 😮

@kevo-o-o Ай бұрын

Well then... sign me up

@dontpokethekenny Ай бұрын

As if colonialism was actually bad. Colonialism is based and righteous.

@taags Ай бұрын

And?

@TheSutanian 21 күн бұрын

I’ve seen better animated fight scenes in stuff like Black Dynamite and The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog

@ArchangelExile Ай бұрын

Interesting... 🤔

@garetjax19 Ай бұрын

It's not just yt who feels superior to most of Sub Saharan African culture and development, it's also most of the rest of the World that feels that way. As an aside, Sub Saharan Africa is now being funded to the tune of $51Billion in loans, over 3 yrs, by their new best friends from West Taiwan, also Russia is scrambling to hold on to its access to the region, because they lost control of key bases during the recent Islamist takeover of Syria. Peace All

@ConnorJane 28 күн бұрын

Dude, we know the Western education is crap but you should learn to read a map one of these days.

@Gioven740 Ай бұрын

Hi bigo- I mean Hi Wolf!

@williamdunhan341 Ай бұрын

It's also a bit of a filler movie.

@jonsnowight9510 Ай бұрын

13:15 Most things weren't bad.

@RealCaptainAwesome Ай бұрын

Ah, classic EFAP

@EmileAnimation Ай бұрын

Idc

@eternalvibe9083 Ай бұрын

Never been this early

@mathewallen9813 Ай бұрын

First massive

@jonsnowight9510 Ай бұрын

8:30 There would need to have been a 1.0 for there to be a 2.0

@TheBloch007 Ай бұрын

Is it true Wolf stepped down after his many anti-jewish comments?

@bobtwista Ай бұрын

I don’t think wolf “stepped down” because of his Jewish jokes. To think Jewish people are too weak to joke about is an anti Jewish sentiment, are you gonna step down from your job?

@Fauwkes Ай бұрын

No. It isn’t true

@dizzydoom4230 Ай бұрын

It waa the general stress of what he got into woyh internet arguments and such that made him leave, but I do see why he says he cringes at his old self. It's not even having the Jew jokes, they're just kinda shit as jokes.

@Fauwkes Ай бұрын

@ I sincerely doubt he cringes at jew jokes.

@Ki_Adi_Mundi Ай бұрын

No but efap tends to like their own double standards so... 🤷🏻‍♂

@tsusmildrides4937 Ай бұрын

Oh, Wolf litteraly just said that if Africans had the same access to the recourses and geography of Europeans they wouldn't have been able to industrialize because... "you know". I wonder what Wolf thinks of having a lesser take his place as a host.

@gabrielduquevizfraga6238 Ай бұрын

He said "that's not the best way to word it", meaning he knew those words were not the best way to represent his opinions. I don't know Wolf's views, but I'm pretty sure he's not that degenerate as you think he is;

@Arander92 Ай бұрын

He knew that wasn’t the best way to word it because he knew it was too blatantly racist. You guys are contorting yourselves into pretzels to convince yourselves he’s not a racist, like this is just sad to watch

@gabrielduquevizfraga6238 Ай бұрын

@Arander92 sure dude. I think Wolf used to be way edgier with his jokes, but calling him racist is fine as well

@tsusmildrides4937 Ай бұрын

@gabrielduquevizfraga6238 I literally can't imagine what else could have been the thing "we know" it feels like a Syntheticman level cover.

@gabrielduquevizfraga6238 Ай бұрын

@@tsusmildrides4937 I think he was being edgy. I do not think Mauler and Rags would allow Wolf to handle this channel if they thought he's racist.

@ADHadh Ай бұрын

Just to be clear: Hitler was *not* a good painter. He was very amateurish and bland. His perspective and proportions were wonky and all over the place.

@gottesurteil3201 Ай бұрын

Still better than most modern art.

@ramjet94 Ай бұрын

Hey Wolf, do you want to cool in a bit with the inflammatory titles? It's veering into slop rage bait when you guys spend most of the video calmly discussing it instead of sounding like your Nerdrotic or Doomcock tisming out over people's dumb takes on the internet as a personal front. I know it's probably harder to title these clips from the older episodes but still there's gotta be something better.

@ThisisKyle Ай бұрын

How is it inflammatory?

@electricbayonet2 Ай бұрын

It's about a comment that called Mauler a white supremacist for criticizing Black Panther. Why do they need to scream and flail in response to such a cartoonish accusation to validate the title?

@Dawn95284 Ай бұрын

Thinking that starvation in Africa is not a consequence of white cononialism is completely delusional. This podcast is filled with ignorant snobs who could use a history book or two.

@something73110 Ай бұрын

To be fair, Mauler did push back on Rags when he said that

@Dawn95284 Ай бұрын

@something73110 Yeah that's true he did

@Arander92 Ай бұрын

Mauler seems to be the only one that isn’t a closeted racist desperately trying and ailing to contain their bigotry before it becomes too obvious. Not that it wasn’t before

@gottesurteil3201 Ай бұрын

It's a shame that despite giving them money to take away the people they didn't want they still managed to squander their resources.

@portalmanHUN 23 күн бұрын

Ethiopia sent away all the white farmers and they immediately started starving. They are in a hell of their own making.