Disney Lorcana First Look: RED FLAGS for Collectors and Stores

[@maze-nc1ut]

Never underestimate the power of Disney adults bro, they’re going to eat this game of big time I think

[@ElizaShakiraMassani]

Accurate 😂

[@卜仁宁]

3:30 I'm surprised you hadn't heard of labyrinth or Scotland Yard. They are some real classic board games. While I don't see Scotland Yard on the shelf much anymore I usually see at least one version of Labyrinth on the shelf of every board game store I frequent.

[@nuvixgaming]

They have hired TCG veterans to produce this game. They’ve also stated that the game will be competitive, but not on the realm of mtg. I think they will have to add a huge collectibility aspect to it ie full and alt arts etc. for them to be really successful long term. Disney is all about art and this would fit perfectly here

[@nppkmn]

This. One of the main designers is an old designer for MTG. Back in Core set 2011 I believe? A time where magic was in a great place! Huge hopes for this!

[@blaxtopolition7140]

I have yet to see a single chase card

[@cvrsecatcher]

Ravensburger boardgames have been around for decades and are incredibly well known. They've successfully re-released them countless times.

[@theyumyumfilms]

This didn’t age well..

[@the_neon_gorilla]

I recommend you research Villainous a bit more. Card play, layered mechanics, various levels of complexity, asynchronous characters. While not TCG it certainly demonstrates the ability to deliver some of the components you would look for.

[@GlimmersOfLorcana]

Honestly research anything about this a little bit more. It was very obvious from the video he hadn't even bothered to read any of the press releases since he was speculating on store exclusivity

[@TSDreamCreative]

First red flag of the video-you didn't know who Ravensburger was. They are a massive board game company outside of puzzles, producing of mixture of massively successful board games, with Castles of Burgundy being one of the biggest contemporary hits, as well as the Villainous series. Not every game they have produced has been a hit, but that's the case with every company.

[@TSDreamCreative]

Also to Ravensburger's credit here, they did some massive hiring of people over the past years to build up their repetiore of experienced individuals to help support this game's development, marketing, and events.

[@CNA-Games]

I knew who Ravensburger was, but I don't carry their products. I did some homework so other people didn't have to. That's why I made this video.

[@ertai222]

Castles of Burgundy is a great game.

[@DefiasBrotherhood]

Villainous is a terribly unbalanced game. So that doesn't inspire me with confidence in Locana's game balance. Hope they have different people in the company working on this game!

[@ertai222]

@@DefiasBrotherhood well the 2 games are nothing a like so don't worry about it too much.

[@lNLl]

While some points are valid, and we don't know the gameplay yet (and initially we might not have enough product printed), other points are very shallow or poorly researched. Ravensburger is a massive company with 600+ million in revenue in 2021 which has enough resources to create whatever it wants. Villainous is a super big, complex, successful, high-quality game. The organized play announced and will have a big focus at the start. The team has top-tier names, like Ryan Miller (who worked for WotC and created systems for Digimon and other well-known TCGs). And while game might be simple, complexity and mechanics come from the cards.

[@GlimmersOfLorcana]

Lmao I love this comment if only because this might be the most negative thing I've ever seen you write on someone's video for Lorcana and even then it was way too kind. You are a precious gem and I love you Artem! 🤣

[@MrToppDeck]

Villainous is faaaaar from complex, you basically play solitaire with yourself with no player interaction. Its boring as hell an only sells because of the ip.

[@johnmilchmann4046]

I'm german and ravensburger is an absolute institution concerning not only puzzles and board games but also card games. They collaborated with tcg experts on this and the lorcana cards are gonna be highly sought after! They will be phenomenal.

[@justingibbons8010]

Your first point threw me off. Gamers are very familiar with Ravensburger. As you say, they’ve been around a long time. It’s NOT a red flag. It’s actually a GOOD thing Ravensburger is involved. 1. They are known. 2. They have Disney IP products already 3. They have made a Disney card game already! Villainous. They have many games in Target and Walmart even.

[@dominicmetzger3246]

Good video but I’m always a bit surprised that a lot of MTG focused stores just don’t seem to understand how powerful the other fandoms are. I ordered way more MTG 40k than others and sold out, same thing will happen with lord of the rings, Disney and these other massive fandoms.

[@CNA-Games]

For sure! Some stores have blinders on and just don't want to take the risk, even in proven games and properties. It's kind of weird.

[@mtggamingbob2822]

No offense but I found nothing useful here other than your fears as a once bitten twice shy LGS owner (based on your own videos about the past year or 2 and your unhappiness with MTG products). Not trying to troll here, but all of what you said I find poorly formulated as a discussion/idea. There are no red flags I see here. All companies that make a TCG have to make their first one (as MTG did). This does not really need to compete with MTG or for that matter other TCG's as it is the backed by the company with the biggest IPs in the world. You failed to mention the creators (the specific people, not just the company) that created Lorcana, and they do have TCG experience. I have so much more to say and would love to debate this with you live on our Saturday live streams 'Cardboard Conversations'. We are live every Saturday 7pm est. If you care to talk more about this let me know and we can set something up.

[@CNA-Games]

I ABSOLUTELTY am a once bit twice shy LGS owner. I have taken many risks and lost a lot of money trying out TCGs over the years. Do I think Lorcana is risky? Sure. But less so than Metazoo, Argent Saga, My Hero Academia, Weiss, Cardfight Vanguard, Dragon Ball Super - I could go on. All games I've bought heavily in to just to flop.

[@MTGUnpacked]

It'll fly off the shelves initially, and the art and card layout definitely hits the spot. Longer term, do they have some TCG veterans involved to guide the mechanics and future direction of the game? How long it lasts will also depend on how long Disney wants to throw money at it!

[@burnance]

They already do have TCG veterans involved. Ryan Miller and Steve Warner are the ones making it. The big problem is knowing if it’ll be good or not. We already know persistent damage is part of the game mechanics and characters will challenge each other. It’s leaning towards Pokémon, Hearthstone, Keyforge type of play

[@TheKaijudist]

Ryan Miller and Steve Warner both worked on Duel Masters/Kaijudo for WotC

[@burnance]

​@@TheKaijudist Yup! As well as some Magic sets. Ryan Miller recently designed Digimon TCG and contributed to the MHA TCG. Even though DM and Kaijudo eventually got cancelled, I mostly blame that on the times and WotC. They tried to copy the success of Yu-Gi-Oh and make Magic for kids. Didn't work - but I heard they were great games regardless

[@sadam666666]

no ravensburger is not only puzzle, they develop many board games and have a high reputation in Germany and Europe, please no missinformation

[@GlimmersOfLorcana]

That would have required him to do any research into this at all other than "I haven't heard of it so it must not be any good"

[@michaelh.1484]

Biggest alarm bell and problem I always see with any new TCG trying to hit the market, "when it looks like magic and it feels like magic, why not just play magic". Because it's Disney, that's where I see it having some staying power. The only reason is because it's Disney. Gameplay wise I hope it's good. I hope because it's Disney it will stick. Only thing that bugs me about the big 3, for some reason Pokemon is easier to teach to a younger audience, Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic you get into either mature artwork and/or the mechanics are overwhelming.

[@RuthlessGaming17]

Ravensburger makes Villainous! The huge Disney card/board game! They're the best. I'm surprised that didn't come up in your research.

[@MadTownHobby]

Someone angry typed before they finished the video 😀

[@Zerostatik]

🤣🤣

[@bertrammorris214]

Did you watch the video? He did show Villainous

[@bigwilldabeast138]

He spent like 5 mins talking about Villainous😂

[@sneakybuffalo]

It feels fairly disingenuous trying to "help" people make buying decisions when there is a clear lack of research on your part. You didn't even read what the Gift Set did when it was already pulled up on the screen and were just making inaccurate guesses. You spent a lot of time talking about RB as a company and their lack of TCG experience without mentioning the team of people that were hired specifically for this game for their experience in the space. Also you don't expound upon WHY Target partnership is a red flag, and we already know that the game is going to be released to retail, but LGS are getting it two weeks early. That would have been a good talking point from your position as a store owner. I hope you continue looking into the game and support it at your store and I appreciate your take as an LGS owner, but please do your research for future videos

[@Jschwab96]

Well said. I felt the exact same way. He kinda just based everything in this video off the fact that it’s a Disney property created by a company that so happens to make puzzles. It just seems like he’s writing it off as something that’s going to be a fad that will die off after launch when the team behind Lorcana have already shown that they plan to go all in on organized play and future sets.

[@Jschwab96]

I also don’t like how he straight out says “it’s going to be a game made for kids” and adults who can stomach it long enough. Like where is he basing this off of??

[@CNA-Games]

I am not being disingenuous, I am giving my opinions on something based on the information given and that I can learn. It doesn't say anything about the game designers, team leads, or creative directors of the game anywhere on the website. All I have is what they give me and past performance to base my decisions off of. Also, giving me a two week jump on Target is nothing, especially when Target regularly releases new sets of Pokemon and Magic on their shelves sometimes a month before I can. They can say that, but will it even be enforced? Besides, I can't build a base to support the game in my store in two weeks. It will take months if I actually want to have a community for this game, and even then it could be a lot of effort just for them to buy it when they casually shop at big box stores. That's a small window for me to dump product before the margins go to the floor.

[@sneakybuffalo]

@@CNA-Games The Target opinions is exactly the kind of thing I'd have loved to here about in the video from your stance as a store owner. As for the first premise, I disagree. I think Content Creators have a responsibility to their audience to be as informed as possible. The information has existed for months, and is easily found. Just asking for a bit more research first next time.

[@scottriddell3514]

I think locana is the ultimate animated card game

[@AndyseousOdyssey]

Brock and motor gets to sale it a few weeks earlier like a pre release .

[@Chadderboxhobby]

A game shop that doesn't know the name Ravensburger is the biggest red flag in this video.

[@CNA-Games]

Your demographic may not be my demographic. There's a lot of ways to run a successful game store.

[@Chadderboxhobby]

@@CNA-Games fair, but theyre still the biggest name worldwide in puzzles, and even logging into alliance once would expose you to the name.

[@Chadderboxhobby]

2nd would be the "opoly" boys USAOPOLY or "The OP". Familiarizing yourself with the distribution catalogs can be a daunting task with over 100,000 individual line items to be fair I can see being very niche in larger areas. I am in small town deep east texas, I need more variety for my clientele who dont have any other options for pretty much anything hobby related

[@Wolfsspinne]

Always funny to see Americans wondering who or what Ravensburger is... they are after all one of the biggest publisher of boardgames in Germany and literally every child here knows their name.

[@jimr1601]

I heard it was only B&M exclusive for the first 2 weeks then it will go to big box store.

[@yo.deadhaus]

This will be big either way, more opportunities for merchandise probably an animated series dedicated to lorcana, funko pop variants...etc hopefully they do some really cool full/alt art cards!

[@gryfyn71]

if anything the most worrying comp is Star Wars: Destiny, another collectable game developed and distributed by a Board Game company. The question is how much input Disney as a company is working with Ravensburger and if the issues with Destiny taught them anything

[@ericgreen8570]

Pokémon TCG is surprisingly complex, this guy has no idea.

[@E8R0]

Do research on Ryan miller

[@j-007-b2]

I just would like the illumineer's trove for the Visual players guide. Hoping it is like the Guide from MTG Showing all the cards. The MTG Guides were awesome, I so miss them in the Fat Packs oops BUNDLE

[@sidequestgamescollectibles240]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ravensburger handle the Disney Villanious game? Granted it's not a TCG, but it's in this space.

[@sidequestgamescollectibles240]

Aaaaaand I should watch the whole video before commenting.

[@Zerostatik]

I see a few Ravensburger card games sitting on the shelf of my local Ollie's store deeply clearanced. DC games and WWF. Not exactly Disney's caliber, but still. Nothing is saying they don't print past demand. I don't understand the fervor. Disney is notorious for starting things and then walking away. Or producing it until no one wants it. They have some collectible items, but nothing is guaranteed

[@Jschwab96]

Idk why you didn’t seem to do your research before making this video. Organized play has been confirmed, Disney has a strong enough following and even those who aren’t the biggest Disney fans (like myself) are excited for the game because of just what has been shared about the game this far and whose working on it. We’ve seen enough for game to draw similarities between games like KeyForge and MTG and the game seems to be pretty competitive but easy to pick up (like you’d want all TCG’s to be). That doesn’t make it “for kids”. Idk where your basing your speculation off of other than “the people around me aren’t interested”. Lorcana is likely to have a different crowd of players playing the game vs other TCG’s. That’s just the nature of anything in life. That doesn’t mean it won’t be popular. I’m sure it’ll have a community of collectors and players. Especially since as you get older, collectors turn into TCG players a lot of the time. I definitely wanna collect all the cards but I’m not as interested in doing that if I’m not going to also be playing the game. Cause otherwise my cards would be sitting in a box or binder and that’s no fun.

[@RC-kd3ue]

If they dont meet demand, this might die. Have to get this into the players hands!

[@yodoleheehoo]

Would you guys get starter decks and keep them for the future?

[@randomandy2023]

if you have shelves full of content you are holding on to for years maybe. There is going to be a sealed pack of the first chapter and a couple holo in there. If you are making that bet you would have to be willing to hold on to them for 5-10 years. Honestly that money is probably better invested in something else.

[@zkimura]

Love the breakdown. Thank you. Minor constructive tip. Mean no offense. The beginning had very fast talking. Slow it down just a bit

[@LuisETorresDávila]

What’s with the hate? Your supposed red flags do not have any substance.

[@warriorsdynastypart275]

Never late to a party when u are the face of the party

[@CNA-Games]

Party don't start till I walk in.

[@greenmountainpokemon2112]

I thought the Disney product was meant to be low printed. For collectibility reasons

[@allencunningham9002]

Lol They are a pretty well known board game company, every game they've made our play group has loved without even know it was them for the longest time. Its the fact they ARE the ones behind this that I'm interested in it and theyve worked on other big IP games (Villainous, Jaws, Jurrasic Park, etc) and the creators were designers for Magic at its peak.

[@allanflores1077]

Nintendo used to be a card game company. Amazon only dealt with books. Think they’ll do fine with this game after weathering the speculation.

[@dilley_esq]

Do you believe that the rare (thus expensive) and powerful cards of TCGs make the “playability” more difficult to newbies. Sort of a barrier to entry. More new players might dip their toes into a game if they could try play and be competitive with a true starter deck. Is there a rule set for some TCGs which only permit more basic cards to be used?

[@sneakybuffalo]

Lots of games have some variation of a Pauper format, which limits the rarity of cards that can be used. Hopefully this game is cheap enough that that isn't necessary (like Pokemon)

[@CNA-Games]

Pricepoint is definitely a barrier of entry for a lot of people. If something like a two player starter box is $50+, it can really hurt the chances of people picking something up and giving it a shot.

[@TBrygmann]

Some good points, but really poorly researched...seems like its only done for clicks Lacks substance

[@CNA-Games]

Are you suggesting a youtube channel made a sensationalist title and thumbnail for clicks?

[@eddev]

My family is huge into puzzles so we have a lot of Ravensburger products. Also Labyrinth is a classic game, simple but fun. Personally I’m excited to see what they pull off. Hopefully it’s good!

[@JohnDoe-ld8nr]

It looks nice and I'll probably keep my eye out for it to open some packs and to put some away. Either it booms and in 20 years it's $$$$$ or it busts and in 20 years it's "OMG Disney had a card game 20 years ago that quickly died, I gotta get some of that" so it's still $$$.

[@darkmagiks3605]

Villainous, labyrinth, critrole has a game with them too Idk I have faith. Their card stock from the other games they have is pretty good. Villainous is super good

[@CoalCracker85]

So your issue with them is 1. They aren't well know and 2. They are new to the tcg world? Ok

[@revird2647]

Is any product I want not partnered with Target? More annoying than a Red Flag for me xoxo

[@headPokemon3126]

I thought only big box was getting Lorcana?

[@jumpsteady1777]

The biggest mtg values come from them being epic game Changing competitive cards usually. Dual lands, power 9, modern non reserve list cards like mox amber, ragavan, mana vault, solitude...most the expensive cards have a track record of big time competition prowess. So the first thing for value is this game needs to be played and enjoyed at a high level. The cards from mtg that are expensive and contain 0 or next to no desired playability is not as large ad people think. Reserve list value obviously wouldn't be able to apply to a new game yet

[@jvaz1524]

Lost me when you said "not much is known about Ravensburger..." and seems like you did zero research on the company and its involvement in the game. Any tcg launching is risky, but Ravensburger is a gaming company. And no, there is NO company that will meet the demand for this product. Distributors have already said to not get hopes high. I'll move on to a different video now.

[@zelphermm]

well this guy was wrong cause this shit is sold out in most places.

[@DragonslayerDarkfireNr1]

Ravensburger is a legend in germany specially in the early 2000's BUT they never did a tcg

[@nv1573]

Ravensburger = premium quality games in europe. I hope the cards are good. want to know who prints them

[@Poke_DNA]

The basic trainer shade that was thrown 🤣

[@CardboardEmpires]

They can't even make enough puzzles to meet demand for their brand. The are GREAT puzzles that everyone wants.....wait....you're saying it right now.....nevermind.

[@bonespro]

It will have the same fanbase as Keyforge or Flesh and Blood, with the increase in Disney fans that will collect but won't play.

[@headPokemon3126]

So you heard only LGS will get them. Interesting.

[@CNA-Games]

I heard people say so, but not from any official sources.

[@headPokemon3126]

@@CNA-Games What do you think they will do? I heard the opposite. But definitely not from anyone official

[@burnance]

@@CNA-Games They’ve already announced local game stores will get it August 18th and big box on September 1st. I’m sure booster boxes will remain LGS exclusive

[@_retrospecs]

Wen moon?

[@wasithpol]

Yes this is quality content other channel hype this thing to much. Honestly i am extremely worried about scalper. I have seen reserved price of $400 dollar a box and thats crazy. FOMO is scary

[@tcghoarder55]

As some other people have pointed out on other channels, I don't see them competing well with male from their 20's to 40's crowd. Classic Disney is just... not cool?? It is very much a family friendly or kid oriented IP so I don't see them competing with Mtg or FaB. Even if the game is AMAZING the setting is just too much of a turn off for me, and I don't think I'm the only male around my age range that is of this opinion. So I can see them competing against pokemon for the younger crowd... but can Disney even compete against Pokemon?? My money would be on the electric mouse personally. It will sell well at first because of investors, I don't see it last on the long run, at least not at the size that it will come out of the gate as.

[@Jschwab96]

That’s because most males around 20-40 are fat f***s with bad hygiene who only really care about MTG, with card art that you can only make out if you squint extra hard and ugly card text. I’d rather play something with beautiful art and nice card design with characters I at least recognize. I think your letting your internal bias cloud your judgement.

[@tcghoarder55]

@@Jschwab96 So for you, beautiful art is a drawing made to target toddlers and children under 9? Ahhh so your the type of guy not allowed within 30 meters of a school, I get it! In the future, don't project all your own insecurities and prejudice on the rest of us men's. That wont get you far in life and it makes you sound like a weird looser.

[@Jschwab96]

@@tcghoarder55 so I’m a pedo just because I like animation?? Sounds to me like your fragile masculinity is under threat. You know your allowed to like things no matter your age right? But this makes sense coming from the person whose name is “tcghoarder”. I’m going to guess you still live in your moms basement and spend all your life saving on pieces of paper that will inevitably lose value before you retire. Get a life…

[@tcghoarder55]

@@Jschwab96 I never said that, if you want to interpret it that way, that is fine. I called you a weirdo for ONLY liking art targeted at toddlers and shitting on everybody else. I should get a life?? You started some internet arguments with someone you have never met before over him not being too trilled over a cardgame... Not even me wishing a bad fate or insulting people that want it, just not being 100% on board with it... again, you have problems, fix them, work on yourself, it gets better after that

[@Jschwab96]

@@tcghoarder55 You were literally the one who said Disney is not cool for people in your age group and if anything, you are the one who needs to expand your horizons and enjoy new things. You’ve probably done little research about this game and neither has the creator of this video so your impression of the game are limited. I also never said I didn’t like the art on MTG cards. I collected the cards for at least over a year when I was in high school but didn’t play the game much because it’s hard to get into a game when the Magic fanbase is the way it is. I originally commented because your comment came across as someone who is just stating their negative opinion for the sake of it. A lot of people are excited for the game and it’s dumb for people to go around saying the game is going to fail when they lack any knowledge about the game and are just saying random crap.

[@volleyballwithtimkim]

Villianous lol.. 'a puzzle company' backed by DISNEY lol.

[@mikegrant8031]

Of they don't fulfill their contract, the mouse will burn their house to the ground

[@bertrammorris214]

Love your videos. Hope you get more Pokémon product soon. But I think your shitting on this game a little bit. As a magic the gathering player and a recent Pokémon collector as of Silver Tempest I'm going all in on it. I plan on buying one of each initial product. If it sucks I guess I'll be out of a few hundred bucks. But let's give it a shot before we put up red flags and negatively. Love the videos!

[@JackDier]

Lol. 😂 Mr. Negative with more negative viewpoints. 😂😂😂😂 who would have guessed.

[@GhostCoastCollectibles]

Concise and nuanced speculation based on research and expertise. Great content, appreciate what you’ve shared.

[@jabinmerchant5086]

Not really, doesn't really seem to know what he's talking about. Ravensburger is a fairly well know company in the world of board game hobbyists (Villianous as mentioned, El Dorado, Horrified, etc.) and stores are always stocked with their games. His red flags are kinda pointless here.

[@threex1]

Ravens is a huge puzzle company

[@hazeldavis3176]

I'm in the intended market for this game, I think. Disney fan yeah, disposable income yeah, play tcg yeah. But I really dislike the card designs, to the point I don't like the idea of staring at them for half an hour while I play. They're also not interesting enough for me to want a binder of them. It feels like a mtg type card but for Disney I would want more color. More boldness or pizzazz. The art style of the images is exactly what I would expect from modern Disney art and that's not a good mark in my book. I don't think this game will stick for that long. Not in this format anyway. If they shift to collectible art cards I could see it doing better and reaching a wider audience. Guess time will tell, eh?

[@fkai1]

Thing is with this game. It has DIsney on it, and like pins, people are nuts over these.

[@RainwaterGames]

This might come across as a bit critical and I am not trying to start an argument but I feel your video is misinformed and you drew some very wrong conclusions from your research. First, Ravensberger is a huge and very successful long standing company in the board game industry. Just because YOU are not familiar with them, think they are just a puzzle company, and have never heard of labyrinth or Scotland Yard doesn't mean to me that Ravensberger is an unknown company rather it discredits you as a knowledgeable and trustworthy source for this topic since you are discrediting this massive and successful company just because YOU'RE not a board gamer. Secondly, I fail to see how having a relationship with target is a negative. That just tells me that this game will have a massive printing and be readily available for purchase as well as potentially some target exclusive products (exclusive sleeves or playmats maybe?). Lastly, you seem to be not informed that the game will be exclusive to LGSs for the purpose of creating the community within the game stores and then a few weeks later will br massively available in the big box retail stores. You are also way off in thinking this game is targeted towards kids. The only people I have seen excited for this game has all been middle aged adults. If you think this is only for kids then you clearly do not understand the Disney brand and the Disney audience. In terms of balancing the game, you are again not informed that they have brought in CCG veterans to help design this game. It just feels to me like your conclusions drawn for "red flags" in this video are way off.

[@nicks.9741]

Ravensburger is a major company. That an American never looks further than there own island..just short sighted. 🤦

[@smguk2412]

Yank hasn't heard of company that's not american so Red Flag

[@CNA-Games]

Yank looked up the company and sees it has a history of delays and production issues. Red flag.

[@Jschwab96]

@@CNA-Gamescherry pick any companies history and you’ll find the same things. Doesn’t mean anything. If the products sells and people like it, what’s the harm? If this didn’t have Disney attached to it, I doubt you’d be so harsh on it.

[@ChristopherLMunoz]

Labyrinth! Best kid game ever 😊 You missed something out there 😅

[@DeadSkinSuit]

Nintendo was a toy company before they made the NES

[@maxpotiontcg]

Appreciate your transparency Mason, this is invaluable info as always.

[@patricktiefenbacher]

Disney have so much potential. Especially with Star wars and Marvel. But i think this product is going to fail. "Ravensburger" is not the right company to do this! The cards looks so boring like a card game for 6year old kids! No Fullarts, Altarts, or anything like something that its cool to collect!

[@TheOldeCardShoppe]

No way in hell this is game store exclusive.

[@GlimmersOfLorcana]

Of course it's not LGS exclusive which he'd have known if he'd did even 5 minutes of research. It DOES however release to LGS 2 weeks before big box stores because the company is trying to help them get a leg up.

[@Youtube_ban_me]

The biggest sleeper cards right now are fortnite cards

[@SketchingHands]

It’s Duel Masters with a Mickey Mouse Face. That’s all

[@radekemmerich6151]

will be fun maybe for a moth or two, then slowly dies. Disney might got a big name, but TCG is not the way

[@SageOfEchoes]

This will be fun to play but I don’t think it is going to be a money maker. Nothing super rare. Unlimited printing.

[@stoowpot6]

Stop hating every company is not rich

[@MrToppDeck]

Everybody is excited and pumped but nobody will play this game. It has the hype right now which most games do. There has been sooo many card games with Disney characters that nobody never played. Remember the kingdom hearts card game? LMAO! I think the cards will be collected and the player base with probably be around the size the my little pony card game was and it will die after 2 to 3 years. Ravenburger games are very simple, Villainous is basically solitaire with no true player interaction and only sells because of the ip. The fact that people continue to defend villainous as a good game and claim to be tabletop gamers is flabbergasting to me. I own the gargoyles board game, it was okay at best and the replay value is very low(hurts me to that as a gargoyles fan). The wizard of oz game and ET game are kinda meh as well. I feel like ravenburger games really aren't that great in general. Just my opinion. We will see what happens, but best believe if the gargoyles show up in this game i will buy them as singles and that's probably it. lol

[@CNA-Games]

Wow I didn’t know any of that existed lol

[@Jschwab96]

Have you played Villainous, or at least consistently?? The game has a lot of strategy involved and player choices. Yah like many games, it comes down to the luck of the cards but the order in what actions you take and cards you play truly matter. It is definitely not a kids game as with the same hand draw, the more skilled player is always going to win.

[@MrToppDeck]

@@Jschwab96 I don't like Villainous. Theres barely any player interaction for the most part, it's like solitaire with Disney characters.

[@Jschwab96]

@@MrToppDeck The game plays nothing like solitaire and many many MANY board games have little player interaction and are still great games. By that same logic as well, any single player video game just wouldn’t be fun. I’d argue the player interaction through the Fate cards work to slow down the other players and there’s great fun to have there.

[@MrToppDeck]

@@Jschwab96 playing cards on my board and literally ignoring and not caring about what my opponent plays or interacts with(Date Cards) equals solitaire type gameplay to me. You don't even need to talk to your opponents in that game. Lol. Basically, I don't need to play with anybody to finish the game cards. And also, those characters are not balance at all.(but that's another conversation ) But we can agree to disagree. Villainous is just another example of a game to me that has a famous IP with boring mechanic system to me. It's literally just solitaire to me, not fun at all. Alot of potential but it fail to me in my eyes. I'm glad people do like it though, just not my cup of tea

[@ZOMBITVPT]

You Noob. RAVENSBURGUER is one of the biggest board game companys in the world

[@CNA-Games]

No it’s not. They are pretty small, all things considered. Puzzles? Oh sure,they’re well known for those. But board games they have a handful and no experience with tcgs.

[@ZOMBITVPT]

@@CNA-Games ist true, tgc is new for them but they are one of the biggest in europe. They have a lot of board games and the people in Lorcana are ex-Magic the Gathering people. They need to creat a pro league to have sucesse. Tcg is more than a collectors card game.

[@Mofizius]

Red flag for Ravensburger 😅😅😅 this dude has rlly no idea about german quality. This TCG will have a new standart in quality

[@monarch2500]

I think the game will last a year and b a big cash grab and once they make there money they gone lol

[@ericgreen8570]

Target is a red flag? Lol

[@EnzoCroft]

I expect the amount of woman and girls playing this game will be really high. And where the women go you can expect the men to follow lol.

[@michaelhumphrey7891]

Good info. Horrible presentation.

[@dinobarros3364]

You were definitely not ready to make this video. It blows my mind that a content creator knows less than his own viewers.

[@terrencefox8386]

Disney tcg? Lawl