Disney vs Dreamworks Villains (an animation)

Turning Red is actually pretty good, it's just doodoo compared to masterpieces like Puss In Boots: The Last Wish. Added the Mermaid from the Teenage Kraken cause I know this girl bad af in more ways than one.
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[@nillypc42]

Honestly, Dreamworks deserves all the love they're getting. Disney nowadays doesn't have unique ideas and always defaults to live-action versions of animated movies.

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

The live actions (except maybe Cinderella 2015) are definitely unneeded.

[@Fsman74]

well aslong as its not movies disney good

[@shadowwolf9467]

@@SweetOrangeGirl Yes I agree with you, I love that one.

[@pedrogabrielcuevascervera5617]

​@@SweetOrangeGirl toda la razón cenicienta y El libro de la selva son las únicas que si son muy buenas

[@user-nv9vn8fm1d]

Are you only saying this because Puss in Boots 2 was a good movie or do you have more examples?

[@Santoryu90]

Some Disney movies now are really more focusing on things like family trauma than having actual villains.

[@whuspr]

Yep. Puss' last movie had good lessons and story content to go with. Many characters in that film have trauma, and they wrote them all really well.

[@idontchuckle6658]

@@Dreamwitch_ it's not, really. But it is getting stale. Plus the execution could feel a little sloppy, encanto not included.

[@XxEncore]

​@@Dreamwitch_ Maybe it wouldn't be if they didn't do the same messgae over and over

[@lilly_5598]

Dude family trauma is overlooked sometimes Like in steven universe future its like "you have to forgive them cause they are your famliy"

[@kinggalactix]

@@idontchuckle6658 And "Puss and Boots: The Last Wish" proves you can do this personal trauma story with villains in a captivating and wonderful way! So there's not much of an excuse with Disney and Pixar anymore.

[@X-SPONGED]

DreamWorks: "Let's make a compelling, heartfelt story about mortality, self-discovery, and living life to the fullest" Disney: *_L E T' S R E M A K E M O A N A_*

[@alluminium9656]

Nice pfp

[@MrKyogreOfTheSeas]

Moana was made like 6 years ago, and it was great. WHY LIVE-ACTION IT THO

[@altithoraxperotorum5133]

@@alluminium9656 DreamWorks : let's remake how to train your dragon

[@burnedoutgraduatestudent4482]

Dreamworks: Actually we’re going to make Trolls 3 and Boss Baby 3

[@altithoraxperotorum5133]

@@burnedoutgraduatestudent4482 and remake how to train your dragon

[@SpoopyChicken]

In summary: Disney villains: "I don't really agree with your opinion/I tricked you because I'm evil." Dreamworks villains: "We are going to beat you to death."

[@MarioArmario-fm4bo]

lmao disney villains: im not letting you have fun because im the unfun-man dreamworks villains: i will fucking skin you alive

[@UKRAINEMapping]

☠️

[@venusmoon107]

if you say so

[@millo7295]

DreamWorks: we want your money to make better content Disney: we saw what you did to 343

[@onepresence9460]

Disney: Let’s keep making lifeless, bland and soulless live-action remakes of our animated movies and we keep using the same art style for our cartoons. Dreamworks: Let’s make each animated movie with a different art style, to be more unique and to have variety. And let’s make the best written sequels ever made.

[@nobodys_here07]

True but once a DreamWorks franchise becomes a trilogy, it gets debatable to say the least

[@ethans1997]

​@Nobody's_here07 True, but when you look at the How to Train Your Dragon trilogy, it did pretty well and I have my hopes up for Shrek V.

[@rion-zw8qj]

also dreamworks:lets also let our character bleed :D we dont care if parents complain we want our movies respected

[@MidgarMerc]

Wait how exactly does Turning Red have the same animation style as Frozen exactly?

[@TheFazbearShowtimer]

The animation style differs lmao

[@NotCumin]

I find it funny how whenever people compare to Disney/Pixar today compared to dreamworks today, Disney/Pixar is always represented by Turning red because it was the last memorable film because of how forgettable Lightyear was, and no one saw Strange World, including me

[@Brioanimations]

The movie was 😒😒😒

[@reasyrandom]

I saw Strange World with my dad last Christmas. He had nothing to say about it, unlike Mitchells vs. the Machines and Encanto, where he got really invested in the story. I mainly remember Strange World for its excellent animation, the characters and story are boring.

[@swiftstreak98]

They are both ass and don't get me started on Strange World

[@ananaszluty878]

I seen strange world and I think it doesnt look bad an animation is perfect but I dont realy like that movie

[@James-nr2hi]

I didn't even know Strange world existed until I saw this comment

[@silencio6068]

I,d never thought Chelsea and Death would make such a good villain duo. Wolf looks like a wise hitman who knows every step you,re going to take before you even think it, and Chelsea looks like the pretty mastermind who created the ultimate domination plan

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

Exactly they both look cool

[@kaysrandomchannel4618]

Yeah.

[@emib6599]

Nah, death is coming for Disney and Chelsea simply decided to follow it, because she found that watching people fearing their coming demise is funny.

[@riley-dv8eu]

Or Chelsea is like that Crazy psycho who follows the hitman just to see what he can do and join him

[@TPDManiacXC626]

@@riley-dv8eu All that’s missing is Professor Marmalade on her shoulder whispering into her ear for advice, or manipulating her for his own agendas.

[@aceofjacks7071]

thing is, Turning Red didn't really need a villain because it's not what the movie is about. Lightyear though? yeah I get it.

[@neoe5970]

thnks for mntioning this, I tried imagineing it with an "actual villain", and for a based on real life movie of this kind really doest work

[@mrrd4444]

Okay but why are we giving Disney the credit for Pixar's work LOL

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

Isn’t Pixar part of Disney?

[@averagegenderenthusiast7178]

i think it is but it's somewhat separate in operations and personnel, so pixar and disney are somewhat separate. and given pixar's history of movies without clearly defined villains (think the first toy story) it's actually not that strange for turning red to not have a traditional villain.

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

@Darth Sephiroth 66 That’s what I was thinking, duh.

[@muhammadsoleh4725]

I thought Pixar is part of Disney????

[@iced_cassowary8728]

pixar is but one of disney's tentacles.

[@markcochrane9523]

The real kicker is that The Last Wish is actually 3 very good templates for how Disney could put great villains into their family trauma stories: 1) Have an antagonist that represents the abstract concept of the family trauma....or even have an antagonist that *is* the abstract concept of the family trauma (Death) 2) Have a sympathetic antagonist that is going through something somewhat related to the hero's issues (Goldilocks) 3) Have a hilariously unsympathetic and irredeemable villain that could never learn the lesson that the hero does (Jack Horner) Disney could be having its cake and eating it too, but they aren't because the writers aren't talented enough.

[@AhmedMostafa-ir2bl]

The talent is not the issue it Disney that want to push a certain propaganda down the children throat (the letter community) this is why the quality has gone down and story’s are bad

[@bluelightstudios6191]

their writers are twitter users, what do you expect

[@mist0804]

They tried to have their cake but they slipped and it fell onto a police officer, shattering the plate and getting themselves arrested

[@that1person695]

Yea but Disney has ALREADY done that ALOT. Like in lion king or Tangled. Disney is trying to show that not everything is as simple as black or white. Not everything is hero or villain l. They're trying to show how a lot of people may appear like villains but aren't etc. You have to remember that all over the world, all eyes are on Disney. No matter what they do they'll always be judged and they're always expected to create the next best thing. While also properly teaching children lessons their parents are too lazy to teach. Pixar isn't Disney and really started out making things not for kids but for fun and for young adults. They've since shifted to more child friendly content. But they have more of a drive to create things just because they can and they enjoy testing their limits. On top of that they're already used to massive losses with their movies so they're not afraid to create something bad.

[@markcochrane9523]

@@that1person695 "Like in lion king or Tangled." Gonna go out on a limb and presume those are both "villain that could never learn the lesson that the hero does", because I don't see where else they fit in what I put forward.

[@AmberyTear]

As someone with family trauma, I appreciate both types of villains but the oversaturation of one type in Disney movies gets old. Variety is a spice of life.

[@unclebaba3463]

I wouldn't say it's over Saturstion, just poor execution, like if it was all well done people wouldn't really have as much a problem

[@takaw.d8486]

In disney they used to have a "critique room" where they would give their honest opinions about ideas without any backlash or problems, Pixar adopted this too, however i think it was in 2018 Disney took out the Critique room cause it was a "Toxic work enviroment" little did they know it was what made them improve and make good movies

[@octosquid48]

You're telling me they had a room where they troubleshoot their projects and they just *got rid of it?!*

[@takaw.d8486]

@@octosquid48 yea, theyd be dead honest too and wouldint get fired over their opinions on the idea, but it was in 2016 or 18 it got taken down, theyd be brutal too

[@TPDManiacXC626]

@@takaw.d8486 Unbelievable. Not only for getting rid of the critique room, but also for my point of why DreamWorks hasn’t yet made a villain that’s a thinly veiled caricature of the current Disney CEO Bob Iger like how Lord Farquaad was a thinly veiled caricature of the then-CEO Michael Eisner. I really do hope that Baron Bob (that’s what I would call him) will be the new villain in Shrek 5.

[@paulthemajin6636]

Time to show Disney what a REAL villain looks like

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

Dreamworks: Oh you have villains alright, just not *super* ones Disney: Oh yeah? and whats that? Dreamworks: (Revealing death) PRESENTATION!

[@syrusgrove8682]

@Craytherlaygaming and it fits even more becuase that literally is a quote from Megamind a DreamWorks movie.

[@andrewcarlson3486]

Should bring out Horner

[@mist0804]

@@craytherlaygaming2852 Correction: "Oh yeah? What's the difference?"

[@herplederpledoodledoo]

@@craytherlaygaming2852 Death is the new hotness, but let us spare a moment in memory of the likes of Tighten, Rameses and Tai Lung. Viscerally disgusting levels of entitlement that you nonetheless could absolutely see happening in real life, the tragedy of an inescapable legacy and parental favoritism, and being fked up a parental figure who didn't mean any harm and just sincerely wanted the best for their adopted child but nonetheless failed them emotionally. They could do the 'real life trauma that's subtle yet destructive but didn't start out of evulz' while also having the obvious, larger than life 'true' villains.

[@Tekkenandgaming]

It’s good that dreamworks is FINALY getting the love it deserves, but man they have been this amazing for decades now people are somehow just now recognizing this.

[@codyjames1054]

Its so much more noticable now because they REALLY kicked Disney's ass last year. Bad Guys and Puss in Boots were both some of the best animated movies I've seen in a long time whereas Disney is in the worst shithole its ever been.

[@ahlendemon6027]

@@codyjames1054 I think Dreamworks should have beaten Disney since Shrek.but we didn't realise about that.

[@Datsyoashley]

@@ahlendemon6027 nah i think they should’ve beaten disney since megamind became a thing

[@ahlendemon6027]

@@Datsyoashley what about Kung Fu Panda 😳

[@Datsyoashley]

@@ahlendemon6027 thats a masterpiece without even mentioning it

[@redbrickmaroonauburn4975]

Though their movies can be a hit or miss sometimes, Dreamworks was never afraid of trying new things, while Disney is like: “L I V E A C T I O N”

[@Shou_22]

Do you know what's worse than live action? Making a live action of an animated movie and bastardise it with woke politics... And making creepy real life animals talk and shit...

[@yubullyme3855]

@@Shou_22 you didnt even saw the movie yet you have to shit on it. Lame,,, atleast Ariel voice fits the role 100%. It's not shitty autotune like the Belle and the Beast live action movie.

[@FoxPrinceHope]

​@@Shou_22I'm hoping you mean both the Mulan remake and The Lion King remake because i have no idea how you can make Lion King into that-

[@Shou_22]

@@FoxPrinceHope That is Mulan and Lion King... And eventually the Little Mermaid... Her animal friends is not something you would not want to see waking up...

[@David-S.130]

Dreamworks would do a better job than Disney if they were to create a live-action remake.

[@Mastergoatyt2410]

0:12 The Shion Sonozaki's hysterical laughter just made it better.

[@obeseoverlold]

DreamWorks: *_makes original contect that got put a lot of work and dedication to think of the idea_* Disney: *_live action everything_*

[@user-rj3ch1vv6r]

Really, I don't know why they all so into it, despite I don't know much about studio stuff..

[@YourLocalPlushAddict]

Fans:So Why are you doing this? Disney: *I LIKE MONEY* 🐁

[@user-rj3ch1vv6r]

@@YourLocalPlushAddict yes😋

[@napbuddy1754]

Disney never was original its all remade of something

[@WinterroSP]

@@user-rj3ch1vv6r Simple, Disney is a company, the less effort you put into it , the more it earns, they try to lure people in with nostalgia, but the films are terrible (insert Pinocchio remake here)

[@antramp5494]

Dreamworks may be hit or miss sometimes, but their constant experimentation is absolutely worth it.

[@anonmon96]

works better than blindly pursuing the same formula (which to be honest doesnt work all that well even in the best case scenario).

[@doggoadexx2680]

As if the villain formula hasn’t been fucking repeated so many goddamn times and is literally in every movie known to mankind.

[@anonmon96]

@@doggoadexx2680 that particular formula is practically unavoidable anyway. Not literally of course. But realistically speaking its here to stay.

[@midnari]

The Last Wish didn't do anything different. They literally told The Hero's story and included the various rising character arcs. Puss and Boots returned to KNOWN storytelling where everyone else is just pushing crap around with a broom. It followed Christopher's Vogel's Writer's Journey to the T - The very same book Disney used to follow during the golden age of animation.

[@antramp5494]

@@midnari Experimentation doesn't always mean original. Hell, originality isn't even truly original. What they did in the last wish was experiment with aspects of already existing works, and trying to improve upon it while doing their own thing to it. Also, originality (At least for me) is where you take inspiration from other works and trying to improve it further and putting your own spin on it. Any artistic works that exist will always derive from some other work which inspired the creator, much like how any scientific breakthrough is built upon other people's scientific progress. But in short, experimentation and originality isn't really the same thing, nor did I say that everything they make is completely original. They just choose to have more freedom in their works.

[@ReticularTunic7]

This aged like Milk for Ruby Gillman 😢

[@axotheaxolotl2259]

not really, its box office has gone up some, and it became number 1 on netflix on day 1

[@Cinadraws]

mei: Why is she here? Death: they told me to bring her

[@samwood8523]

the laughter makes the whistle so much creepier

[@alejandrohead1650]

True 😆🥶

[@frostbitedragon9]

Right?

[@P.H691]

You got a laugh of a psychotic yandere (I think it's Shion from Higurashi), a terrifying force to see murder in anime, mixed with the whistle of a force of nature who will catch you, no matter where you go and it's inevitable. A combination I never thought would work so well.

[@noradanielle971]

Not to mention that they are practically terrorizing a Literal child that was having a temper tantrum about a concert a second ago

[@christianjudeberbano3134]

​@@P.H691 yep, it's shion's laugh

[@kingbash6466]

There's something morbidly hilarious about how stone-cold serious Death is meanwhile, "Ariel" is doing the Shion laugh, like she's seconds away from commiting first-degree murder.

[@yasininn76]

Who even is that girl, I don't remember seeing her in any DW movie

[@kingbash6466]

@@yasininn76 She's the villain in the upcoming DreamWorks movie, "Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken."

[@KazTia]

That "Ariel" You were talking about is called Chelsea the Mermaid Not a "Lovely Kind Hearted" Mermaid tho...

[@TerribleRecordsMC]

She's even doing the same pose of Shion during her laughter (when she's watching Rika stab her head to death)

[@gimo6881]

💀 0:13

[@KochoShinobuK]

"Added the Mermaid from the Teenage Kraken cause I know this girl bad af in more ways than one" *w h a t*

[@ChaosAnimationsSpeedArts]

Spiderverse comes out with the steel chair

[@HeckmanFT7]

There's something other than Turning Red for this to work: Lightyear and Strange World are probably the reasons why Disney forgot they had villains (which is understandable for Encanto and Turning Red), no wonder why NBCUniversal kept beating Mickey's ass

[@reasyrandom]

It's so funny because Lightyear had a proper villain, but people almost universally hated the reveal around his identity. No wonder people want to forget about that.

[@bigseven8227]

@@reasyrandom Probably the dumbest twist in a movie I've ever seen. Time travel in movies always makes up it's own rules and doesn't even follow them. And how Buzz didn't want to change the past and save his entire people from living on a hellscape planet just because his dead friend won't live the same live she previously had, even though Buzz could literally introduce her to the woman she later married after saving everyone from the crash.

[@deraybell9140]

That’s because it’s supposed to be EVIL emperor Zurg. Not TRAGIC Castaway Geezer. The thing about “Generational Trauma” is while it does provide a unique perspective with some creative ideas. They’re only so many proverbial bullets in that clip so speak. Encanto and Turning Red did it the best since they were some of the first to fully explore this Avenue.

[@nicholasdruce5346]

Wish has a villain.

[@nicholasdruce5346]

I miss the male leads in Walt Disney Animation Studios.

[@theresaoconnor5408]

Disney: Lets make a live action remake of Moana even though nobody asked for it and people aren't nostalgic for it yet. Dreamworks: We should do a sequel to Puss in Boots and make it the greatest thing to ever exist even though the first one came out over a decade ago.

[@altithoraxperotorum5133]

DreamWorks : let's do a live action how to train your dragon movie

[@georgiosgkanas758]

Actually the rock asked for a live action moana cuz he loves money cuz his DC plan fail

[@SammyNeverEver]

Turning Red: I'm getting tinglies for the first time. This is very important Puss in Boots: I'm getting chased around by LITERALLY DEATH HIMSELF

[@Whiteabstractwhite]

Honestly when you portray that forgettable mermaid from The teenage kraken movie (I forget a lot of things) as a psychopath that looks for fame and manipulates people for greed. She sounds very intimidating, even more then her lava mermaid form

[@Soooshi.]

I feel like Dreameorks vs Disney is a meme now and I’m all for it.

[@seisosimp]

It's always been a meme given that Shrek is basically an F-u by a disgruntled employee to Disney 😂

[@anonmon96]

@@seisosimp that meme apparently has aged quite well given what HAS happened.

[@mathewantony8114]

yo who da crazy lady with death??

[@wakuwaku9920]

@@seisosimp it still makes me laugh that dreamworks exist just to kick disney assess...

[@SpaceotterwithaMustache]

Until people start getting toxic to others just because they enjoy a certain studio

[@partypoison8476]

I love how we all conclude that Chelsea is going to be a great villain even though we only have the trailer for now

[@andrehashimoto8056]

Better bet than believe Dosney will male something even worth pirating nowadays

[@emib6599]

The trailer doesn't inspire me (and doesn't seem to have inspired a lot of people for what o said) but the villains gives good "asshole" vibes, now we only need to discover if she will a stereotypical arrogant school girl kind of asshole, or an true villain asshole beyond any acceptable standard that really push real "hate" out if you.

[@generalhorse493]

nowadays everyone's ragging on Chelsea's reveal as a villain as easily the weakest part of the whole movie, and Ruby Gillman is a movie with many a flaw to criticize.

[@flexprime2010]

After watching the movie, I confirm: she is a great villain.

[@hmnhntr]

Y'all were very wrong lol

[@giulizpaviz6381]

Pixar then: Let's make a movie about a rat cooking as a message about how every talented person can be anywhere. 👨‍🎨 Pixar now: Let's make a movie about that time my mom didn't allow me to go at the concert! 😭

[@celestialsky4133]

Fr

[@steamyvegetables1445]

It did flopped as hard as Ruby tho☠️☠️☠️

[@giulizpaviz6381]

@@steamyvegetables1445 I'm not talking about flopping or not, it's about story quality

[@idknamesarehard7119]

Having a smaller scale conflict is not an inherently bad thing. Turning Red explores how her relationship with her family is changing as she's getting older and creating an identity outside of her parents. The concert is the catalyst that conflict is centered around, the first time she's ever disagreed with her parents. Pixar's themes and storytelling are still there as long as you don't go in with a dismissive mindset.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

@@idknamesarehard7119 geez, I've never heard a movie with this message before exept...every single Disney movie right now.

[@lbrett7054]

Disney was in its prime in the 90s, now I can barely recognise it.

[@he2295]

Yeah it’s just a business buying marvel and Star Wars they never produced anything after 2000s

[@MrKyogreOfTheSeas]

@@he2295 its literally like Pac-Man. 1.Eat Marvel 2.Eat Star Wars 3.Huh. Nothing else. Hey, our animated movies turned out well! LETS LIVE-ACTION THEM!

[@longwlenguyen4214]

@@MrKyogreOfTheSeas At least Pac-man put hard work into it and stay as a icon of video games for decades before being outshine by Mario and Sonic, but he is still remember fondly by many meanwhile Disney just burned their own legacy and childhood of millions for moolah.

[@MrKyogreOfTheSeas]

@@longwlenguyen4214 EXACTLY!

[@SIMBA-tq2ch]

@@MrKyogreOfTheSeas fox

[@Microsoft-Excel-2010]

And yet it was Pinocchio who won the Oscar, causing Jack Horner's hatred for the puppet grow three times that day.

[@ninjasolarteam]

Which pinocchio? This better be not be the disney one. Because everyone are confused which pinocchio you referring to?

[@user-ou9no3sx4e]

@@ninjasolarteam He's talking about the Stop Motion Netflix version of Pinocchio

[@MrKyogreOfTheSeas]

that was Guillermo del Toro's Pinnochio. The best Disney/Pixar got was Turning Red which didnt even come CLOSE to PIB2 and GDT Pinnochio.

[@ninjasolarteam]

alright i need to make sure@@user-ou9no3sx4e

[@buragi5441]

To be fair though, Del Toro's Pinocchio absolutely deserved the award.

[@dantdmfangamingrich9802]

Fun fact: Dreamworks was created by old Disney Employees who quitted because Disney didn’t like their ideas and now they roast Disney like Fiona killing Ariel

[@tonyparra8459]

That part where Fiona throws her into the water and got eaten by sharks went over my head as a child, had no idea it was DreamWorks making fun of Disney.

[@mari-mari-yasno]

Not all cartoons need a badass villain to drive the story forward, "turning red" works just fine without it. Same as in "inside out"

[@illyanesterenko8930]

And Elemental too lol

[@enforcerlucario932]

Honestly I hope some one makes a battle between Disney and Dreamworks villains it is going to be literally awesome for a battle animation

[@maxdejong5259]

Oh God, yes please!

[@gasterthemaster6490]

Death just kills every one of them.

[@jtmthegamer2104]

​@@gasterthemaster6490Wouldn't say every single one

[@georgiaplayer]

Bruh Death and kai will be enough for these fodders

[@HydragonofDeath]

@@georgiaplayer mmmm I dunno man, I'd say Hades claps Kai as he's the literal god of the dead and Kai is an undead warrior. Death VS Hades I think is the only important match up here, as everyone else is mortal and can die, but I'll have to give the slight edge to Hades, he has a potion that can turn immortals mortal and in the Disney universe, not even the Fates can kill immortals, which Hades is. Death can't even keep Puss dead, granted Death may have a combat advantage over Hades, but Hades could likely just regenerate if Death cuts off his limbs, seeing as he can just transform his body into smoke. If we count spinoffs then Disney wipes the floor with Dreamworks, that evil Stitch clone could just yeet death into another galaxy since it was stronger than base form stitch which has been calculated at multi-galaxy level and is capable of throwing massive objects out of the solar system, even if Death is immortal he can't beat that sheer level of power.

[@yaboirezzy]

Lobo/Death: Don't mind my friend Chelsea, she's still learning how to be a good villain and I told her to practice her evil laugh

[@reasyrandom]

Actually, I kinda love the idea of Death and Chelsea being buddies.

[@yaboirezzy]

@@reasyrandom It'd be kinda funny to have Death (and maybe other great dreamworks baddies) teach future villains after PiB2, on how to be memorable or intimidating But it could also work in-universe: Chelsea is a mermaid/siren which in classic folklore are known to trick sailors, pirates, or other seamen into their deaths, so maybe after they've done their work Lobo would come and collect the souls of their victims. Also both a mermaids/sirens' song and Death's whistle means danger, despite one telling you to come closer while the other tells you to run away

[@frostbitedragon9]

Oh i like this idea actually

[@yaboirezzy]

@@frostbitedragon9 Imagine if Chelsea does the 'I got my eyes on you/I'm coming for you' thing to Ruby (like Death did to Puss) after she just finished her first big training mission She's like: 'That's right kraken girl, your mentor might've taught you well, but my mentor taught me some different lessons'

[@benwood5659]

Maybe like DreamWorks' version of Disney's house of villains.

[@megaman37456]

Shoulda had Jack Horner just come in with his crossbow and light the kid up. "Jack you're not gonna shoot a red panda are you?" - Death "Yeah, in the face, why?" - Jack

[@SUPERLEAF002]

Don't forget the fairy godmother. The greatest badass in villain history.

[@Otval_bashky]

She is old villain

[@Mipimi]

the Higurashi no Naku koro ni laugh was perfectly fitting x)

[@kamenrideruniter4503]

Disney villains then: literally satan Disney villains now: asian mom

[@taylorboney1089]

She’s not a supposed to be a villain, she’s just the antagonist of the film.

[@Otval_bashky]

​@@taylorboney1089 boring antagonist

[@ruthie8785]

Apparently if a film is animated it has to have a villain in it.

[@unoso666]

nice 🥵

[@veryboringchannel6365]

Nah my Asian mom be better than them

[@Person7503]

Okay, but that mermaid one age REALLY poorly... scoring the lowest performing opening isn't the best.

[@benhavasy4538]

read the description💀

[@TheREPPIX]

True but it was made specifically to spite Disney... so it's the thought that counts ig

[@WaspCameraInSpringfield]

Disney is still a shit company that lost more money from Indiana Jones 5 if you account for the marketing budget. Turning Red also bombed way harder than Ruby Gillman did.

[@OfficialRandomGuyPNG]

Bro that maniacal laugh actually suits that character- whoever she is.

[@alejandrohead1650]

Chelsea

[@M_.M979]

It’s the yandere laugh

[@quanpham1370]

I love how Death says pick it up. It's like how Dreamworks is saying Disney to pick it up and fight back to reclaim their past glory. Much like how Puss picks up his sword to fight Death. But in this case Disney didn't decide to fight back like Puss lol.

[@Otval_bashky]

DreamWorks needs a worthy opponent

[@keemoamri5815]

Bro made Chelsea actually scary 💀

[@I_love_bread_and_Hungry_Jacks]

Lobo the grim reaping wolf is literally the "just because you are bad guy does not mean you are BAD GUY" type.

[@alguienxd1897]

the way the Chelsy (how ever it's typen) laughs besides death 💀

[@Quisshy]

Puss in boots the last wish was one of the most goated movies ive ever watched, I really hope they make shrek 5 the same way they made it

[@Churasakanasa]

Looks like dreamworks "kung fu fought for their dreams" better than disney

[@ahlendemon6027]

Kung Fu Panda is a good movie that ever made

[@Churasakanasa]

@@ahlendemon6027 kung fu fight for your dreams!

[@HydragonofDeath]

Pray the 4th movie doesn't screw everything up bois.

[@ironlisa7s]

That's unironically the coldest thing ever, just him whistling while she laughs hysterically

[@baim2598]

Illumination villain (especially in the despicable me universe) : haha stealing goes brrrr

[@docterpain01]

Meanwhile Illumination: 🐢🎹Peaches peaches peaches p-p-peaches.

[@doom199]

Death with the animation oscar: Pick it up. Gillermo del Toro's Pinocchio: Okay.

[@Otval_bashky]

Jack: You stole my glory again!

[@linksstruepower7443]

DreamWorks is what you get when a company is willing to take risks. Sure, their ceiling isn't as high as Disney, but Disney is so scared of trying to reach it themselves they haven't touched it in years. DreamWorks isn't perfect, but their effort is noticed and we love them for it

[@hikaris_light5196]

CHELSEA LAUGHING BRINGS ME LIFE

[@haircastrorodriguez3896]

she was laughing like Shion from higurashi

[@emilygratz9203]

The owl house was the only thing 𝐃𝐢𝐬𝐧𝐞𝐲 had left, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐭.

[@Cornhollo26]

And it wasn’t before Disney decided to make that show the embodiment of woke politics.

[@micahmoyer]

@@Cornhollo26 bro yes i was watching it and was so sad to find the characters were gay and forcing it on the audience. they were well built characters a decent plot Disney needs to stop appealing to like the 10percent of the population and realise the other 90 percent dont care about wokeness we just want some good toons

[@georgiosgkanas758]

And kinda marvel and star wars shows and some other shows

[@punchfanatic]

watching Disney's downfall is more entertaining than watching their movies

[@altithoraxperotorum5133]

There is no downfall and you know it

[@canrae]

Fr

[@SatoworiKowomeiji]

​@@altithoraxperotorum5133There is no spelling and you know "ot"

[@thebolmytreevalley4741]

Dreamworks: Oh, you’re a villain alright… Just not a SUPER one! Disney: Oh yeah? What’s the difference? Dreamworks: PRESENTATION!

[@amosgodwin3921]

0:38 "I'm better than you" yeah I agree

[@Cactusvaquero_]

Then Bowser from the Mario movie arrives accompanying the other villains to humiliate Disney

[@alejandrohead1650]

true xD

[@winstondeavor]

To be fair, Bowser wasn't even made by Illumination.

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

They would regret if they see satan himself and the mistress of all evil

[@higztv1166]

mermaid maniacly laughing is something else...

[@TPDManiacXC626]

Yet totally within her character.

[@mihaleben6051]

Honestly, mei s mom, is a cool antagonist, just because she is a mother

[@substatikvideos]

*Modern Disney villains:* I'm the good guy 😊... Just kidding, I'm actually the bad guy 😠 *Dreamworks villains:* I'm the bad guy 😠... Just kidding, I'm actually 100 times worse 😈

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

Disney villains: I will/try to kill everything on my way and nothing will stop me 😈😈

[@carlitagarzia2766]

I don't mind the new Disney films because they're taking another direction for awareness but at the same time I want Disney to produce films like their old forgotten ones(e.g. Atlantis: the lost empire, Treasure Planet, Hunchback of Notre Dame). But ofc it will never happen, they're going to remake all the classics to live actions smh. EDIT: Oh wow. I never thought this comment would get this much likes but the replies below are a bit bothering. Skip to the end if you don't wanna read it all. Concern #1 If you think the new movies Disney produced ruined the quality of older films then that's a stretched. The old movies are held on a pedestal and each time a mid movie is reviewed from a subjective point of view they're always (old Disney movies) reminded as Tier movies. Nobody would say in a middle of watching Aristocrats, "Damn, Turning Red was shit so this movie is shit. Disney is making me lose my childhood coz this movie sucks." I admit I didn't like Turning Red. I understand the message it tried to convey but it's not the type of movie I wish to watch to comfort myself from a long day. Even as an Asian, it was just not for me. However, I don't throw the old movies into the trash because of a movie that I consider mid. That's just a you issue YOU gotta deal. I'm still going to enjoy the old Disney movies, I still have them in VHS and CDs ( yes I am that old) Concern #2 "Whilst DreamWorks is doing the opposite and making their old movies look better" Are you kidding me? Did it take you to watch Puss in boots: The last wish and A Parody of Arial as an eye opener? Boy gtfo, DreamWorks has always been winning from the start. Sinbad, Shrek, HTTYD, Kungfu panda, Rise of the Guardians, Megamind, and one of my all time favorite Prince of Egypt had been challenging Disney since. Remember that movie back in 2002? That movie Spirit: the stallion of Cimarron. Who would've thought a movie from a POV of a horse is badass. Saying that the recent movies were boosting those old movies gotta be disrespect. Because goddamn, it took you a parody of Ariel to say it's making the old DreamWorks movies look good? Booooyyy, that's just wrong. Don't ever say that. EVER. I love Disney and DreamWorks. But one thing I greatly respect DreamWorks for is the fact that it was created to spite Disney in the first place. Dream(W)orks TL;DR: DreamWorks is awesome. Period. Disney's old movies didn't deserve disrespect because of the new movies. Respect and acknowledge the differences, never bring each other down. But please Disney, stop making live actions. P. S. I hope DreamWorks will continue being creative and unpredictable. But please Disney, stop making live actions and bring back the magic. - Sincerely, a girl who's uncle used to work for Dreamworks and gave me a sketch of Shrek.

[@the_screaming_cherry3678]

But their new ones are terrible and their ruining their older movies, whilst DreamWorks is doing the opposite and making their older movies look better

[@matthewflores4183]

There direction for awareness is not the best direction. It's a stupid decision

[@kimhungnguyen8001]

I totally agree. Like make more hidden gems

[@megablueflash1816]

Moana is gonna get a live action film. It's not even just classics anymore, they're gonna take any movie that's a few years old. See you when Frozen gets a remake...

[@rword6118]

lmao new ones suck

[@cloudyloudy9278]

Funny how everyone wasn't comparing DreamWorks and Disney as much before puss in Boots the last movie was released. Kinda show's how no one cares until you do something good.

[@boli687]

This is so funny 'cause people really think the evil multimillonaire company is going to stop being evil and making bad movies, just because of one good one.

[@boli687]

Celebrate the creative minds behind the films, not the company that is killing them.

[@Dont_care_4_U]

Remember kids being a hero is nice it’s but a good villain is what makes a story click

[@blankblank1949]

Disney got the biggest villain ever made. Mickey

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

No it's Satan himself

[@alejandrohead1650]

My God! this animation is 10/10 my respects to the creator ✨

[@-3-Ohhh_Shit_A_Ghost-3-]

Love it

[@inkwolfartandbuildingstudi3223]

0:05 this was, without a doubt, the icing on the cake! 🤣 I can not commend you enough on how good this animation is, you should start your own film production company (or whatever they are called), I’d work for you.

[@JE-zl6uy]

Dreamworks: "Pick it up..." *Best Animation Company* Disney: "Well I-" *bonk* Fortiche: "OoooH the Misery!" *runs off with the award*

[@LePenguin]

0:12 Why does that laugh fit so well?

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

Ikr 😂

[@qx0xy]

The Shion laugh is pretty common for the common "mean or crazy" girl tropes.

[@emib6599]

​@@qx0xy don't call that the laugh of the "mean girl" that's the iconic laugh of the "mentally unstable sadistic omicidal girl"

[@qx0xy]

@@emib6599 I'll call it what i want 💀

[@charliemacsart]

I don't get why everyone's acting like that mermaid girl is even close to the same level as Lobo/Death, or even better than Disney villains. She's literally just a stereotypical popular girl

[@reasyrandom]

Yeah, I kinda like the idea of mermaids being the villains for once (because, that's actually accurate to the myths). But I don't find her interesting at all. She's just "Ariel, but mean!".

[@uejsilulja2699]

​@@reasyrandom I don't know man.She gave me very uneasy feels when I first saw her.

[@charliemacsart]

@@reasyrandom Yeah, though the only reason I think people are comparing her to Ariel is the red hair, which was a solid marketing movie on DreamWork’s part. But that’s about it, she’s just a popular mean girl cliche, the only people who’d find her intimidating or scary are people who are currently in grade school, which is the target demographic but anyone else isn’t gonna find it interesting.

[@Otval_bashky]

She is daughter of Big Jack Horner

[@wakuwaku9920]

@@charliemacsart bruhhh at least she's not that stupid as ariel was and by the way the one who created her was the same Artist who created ariel.. so what's your problem with that?.... And also haven't u find it cliche when that mermaid is supposed to be a bad guy not a good one who needs to be love or something like that even in the original story she doesn't have a happy ending because the guy she loves was in love with another woman.. and in the myths mermaids literally like to killed people.. 🤦 so tell me where's the real cliche one?

[@riley-dv8eu]

I love how you included Chelsea before Ruby gillman was even released😂😂 Edit: i just came back from watching the film, i'd say this aged alright, sure it wasn't as amazing as The last wish but i liked the characters, and again it was nice to see a villain, (Chelsea) who was evil from start to finish and not have any redeemable qualities Second edit: also i just realized that the vocal for Mei Mei was from Yu-Go-Oh

[@achinthmurali5207]

Honestly, I’m glad you liked the movie. But I didn’t. I thought the villain was a twist villain from the 2010s, the worst kind, who gave the audience bait that she might be more than just a 1-dimensional manipulator but that was false hope. The movie could have been a lot better if Chelsea was more complex and had a genuine friendship with Ruby. It would have made any fight they had much more impactful.

[@WaspCameraInSpringfield]

@@achinthmurali5207 Man, I see your comments on every Ruby Gillman video and I can't believe you're still spamming this dumb critique. Chelsea manipulating Ruby doesn't make her a "twist villain" (or at least, not in the sense that someone like Hans was), there's signs in the film that she's bad news and doesn't have Ruby's interests at heart well before she actually reveals she's Nerissa. She's more like the Fairy Godmother. Also, if you had a "genuine friendship" with Ruby, what would they have even had a fight over? Dumbass.

[@magnusvonbraun9870]

I like how in The Last Wish, Death is portrayed as a wolf. Which if fitting given he was hunting down a cat.

[@jairocatalo1064]

your so underrated you deserve more subs with this good animations

[@urban_rural1256]

I appreciated the Shion laugh on the mermaid more than you could possibly know.

[@catlover373]

“Pick it up” 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🥲

[@BEASTMASK41700]

Old disney was way better than the one we have now days. Then again it seems like disney is trying to get ridoff the good vs evil theme and go to good vs missunderstood theme.

[@Ironmew05]

Then, in comes Illumation with Bowser!

[@reasyrandom]

Though I absolutely adore Jack Black's Bowser, I don't think he counts. He's an established villain.

[@ShnobbsReal]

Why is Disney afraid of villains? That is what made them iconic to begin with.

[@yasininn76]

Because rn, you either make a villain an irredeemable monster, or you'd have to somehow redeem em by the end of the movie to not get Twitter user's backlash about "Disney villanizing the XXX type of people"

[@ruthie8785]

Says who?

[@ShnobbsReal]

@@ruthie8785 we haven't had a Disney Animated Canon villain since Zootopia. Moana, Ralph 2, Frozen 2, Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto, and Strange World didn't have a villain.

[@averyepicguy]

@@ShnobbsReal what about that giant crab guy who ate his grandma in Moana?

[@ShnobbsReal]

@a very epic guy he technically is not a villain, I mean like villains that effect the entire plot of the movie.

[@dutch_asocialite]

Honestly looking forward to Ruby Gillman 👍

[@alejandrohead1650]

we are already two brother

[@painty3459]

I love how TR’s villain was just a mom who loved her daughter

[@amielsmovingpictures]

OKAY, to be honest, if Turning Red would have a 2D animation series, they would definitely cast Kristen Schaal, also known as Mabel Pines.

[@ronnyearnaud2782]

Nah, Mabel would either accept it with Diper judging her, or she would think this is awkyward after accepting and making a way of getting out, with Diper and both uncles Stans help, probably.

[@Mad_Hat_Stickman]

Why is no one talking about Video Game villains? They are absolute BANGERS!

[@comedylad8938]

It's funny when asriel dreemurr, the rainbow goat God-angel thing who basically the living embodiment of overpowered OCs in fanfiction, has a better character than most of modern Disney. Unlike zurg (in lightyear, at least), we get to see more and more of his character indirectly expressed, the duality between himself & this awful persona he had built up, & his general story is very recognizable as it is depressing, all for it to end with one big bang. Same applies to people like Kefka from FF6 or Bowser, who live as a form of metaphor or person who struggles with their own problems. Hell, most modern Video game villains like the radiance or Gabriel have the charm lightyear failed to capture with their rendition of Zurg, which really shows how much Disney has lost their charm.

[@Otval_bashky]

Senator Armstrong from Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, he only appeared at the end of game. In 30 minutes we were able to change our opinion about him. At the first time we thought that he was is just greedy politician, but in the fact he turned out to be the same freedom fighter as Raiden but with more radical methods

[@alluminium9656]

I love GLaDOS!

[@rianmela3825]

Video game villians have the absolute coldest lines " Perhaps Gaia should have chosen the other one" " All things were made by my hand, and all things shall be unmade.. starting with you" " I can BREAK the president in two, with my bare hands." " Does that hurt?" "They all thought I was gone, but I'm still here!" " Looks like I gotta do everything around here.." "Behold my true Form and DESPAIR!"

[@Mad_Hat_Stickman]

See, these guys get me!

[@PainMonkey]

The twist villains and the generational misunderstandings as antagonists were fun the first 2 or 3 times they did it. But I am starting to miss the stakes, the malice, the gleeful mid-movie songs about how evil you are.

[@MoonwalkDelta27]

Everyone that hyped up Ruby Gillman now after the movie released: 🤡

[@AmicusAdastra]

the movie is still good. it wasn't even that hyped most peoples never known it would exist. it was good but predictable.

[@MarsandKai]

I aspected more, but DreamWorks refuse to make a streak

[@WaspCameraInSpringfield]

Disney is still a shit company that lost more money from Indiana Jones 5 if you account for the marketing budget. Turning Red also bombed way harder than Ruby Gillman did.

[@flexprime2010]

it was a good movie.

[@millieherrington4800]

Disney:We’re better then dreamworks! *Releases absolutely dog water* Dreamworks and illumination:*Releases absolute Masterpieces*

[@Numatruehome]

A mermaid is making me uncomfortable and that’s a sentence I never thought would be possible to say about mermaids in animation… so yeah dreamworks is better.

[@rudoodles1272]

Man if a mermaid is making you uncomfortable you have entirely different issues to work through. DreamWorks is better because of the hard work and quality of their products and original charming stories.

[@husseinslifehacks156]

*instant commitment to the death whistle*

[@Numatruehome]

@@rudoodles1272 mermaids are usually so blah in animation so I never give them a thought, so the fact this one is so well written and so accurate as a psychopath, she actually elicits a feeling from me, I’m uncomfortable, like she’s gonna slit my throat and use my death to gain power kind of uncomfortable.

[@GlitchsGoofyAlt]

Can we just appreciate the fact that they put the yandere sim laugh in here?

[@urban_rural1256]

It's Shion's laugh from Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni (the 2006 one). Yandere Sim may have used it, I'm not sure, but that's where it originally comes from.

[@gachaalyrics]

That mermaid film that dreamworks made HURTS to watch I feel like the film had A LOT OF WASTED POTENTIAL

[@velerito3114]

this didn't age well, disney is still in decline but dreamworks just made megamind 2 and it's really bad

[@beta_unknow3050]

Just to say, i love the animation and the laugh Chelsea does lol

[@Numatruehome]

I’m so happy you are still creating

[@asimplerenafan7695]

Happy that someone still remember Shion laught

[@eavyeavy2864]

Still reading Gou

[@ghost_ghoul123]

Honestly, I miss the way Disney was before

[@gangsterskull3357]

Yeah Disney form the 90s was my childhood now it’s just a laughing stock and less humorous

[@Tunaman.films272]

I think it’s odd how Dreamworks went from just an other animated studio to the best one recently just because of Puss in Boots 2

[@Otval_bashky]

Bad Guys too

[@Tunaman.films272]

@@Otval_bashky its ok but a bit overrated

[@fooddriven]

Don’t forget shrek

[@alejandrasanchez3022]

Megamind, Kung Fu Panda, How to Train Your Dragon, Madagascar

[@therewasoldcringe]

dreamworks has always been up there

[@JuzefaWingedCat]

My favorite Disney movie is Atlantis and Treasure Planet... Ya know, the ones Disney forgets they exist

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

*and would have the audacity to compare mediocre crap like Strangeworld to...

[@junghi3909]

You are such an underrated animator, I love your videos ❤️👄❤️