DISPENSATIONALISM vs. COVENANT THEOLOGY

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John Barnett Online Teaching

John Barnett Online Teaching

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@kevinmorris4517
@kevinmorris4517 17 күн бұрын
Dr. Barnett has an amazing grasp of Scripture. His admonition to read the Bible from cover to cover each year really helps so that You hear from the Holy Spirit what He is saying, instead of someone elses thoughts. Reading it from a chronological order instead of Book order also helps. The problem with systematic theologies is they try putting God into a box instead of relating to him as a person. The more you know someone you may have a good idea how they might respond in a situation, but they can still surprise you with their actual responses.
@paulmandry2566
@paulmandry2566 Жыл бұрын
Sir, I just came across your video. I went from years of affirming Dispensationalism to now affirming Covenant Theology. I studied the sacred scriptures, and became Reformed in my theology. I have studied and taught Covenant Theology many times in past years. Some of the things you state are so off the mark on what Covenant Theology is that I don't have the time or space to write about it at this time. You do seem to be someone who truly wishes to faithfully and accurately share the word of God with His people. So, I pray that you remain open to more relevant instruction on the topic of Covenant Theology. God bless.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Жыл бұрын
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the KZbin videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
BOTH systems are correct but not contemporaneously. Covenants except the New C. applied to Israel - some still do. The Dispensation approach is broader than Covenant T. because it begins before Israel existed. There limitations and flaws when world events are stretched to cover more than Israel.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Жыл бұрын
@@edwardwalsh5477 Are you claiming the Old Covenant is still in effect for some people, even though the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:6-13?
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
@@SpotterVideo It's not simple. After Jesus' ascension, the apostles continued with a kind of church but not the Pauline Body of Christ. Read Peter and S's sermons to see that they were a repentance, baptism and works for salvation much as what Jesus taught before His rejection but the Apostles never left Jerusalem to preach the gospel to every creature and the communistic community (characteristic of the Kingdom of God) failed - needing support from the gentile churches outside of Israel. Also, the miracles mentioned in the early chapters of Acts declined and by the end of Acts disappeared because Israel for whom these wonder works were to be a sign and characteristic of the Jewish Kingdom, often mentioned by the Apostles, also failed with "we will not have this man reign over us". Thus God rendered the Messianic covenant with Israel dormant with the stoning of Stephan. The opportunity for the 12 Apostles to carry their evangelistic mission became dormant also. In the meantime, God called ONE Highly improbable man to carry one new gospel (of grace vs. of the kingdom) to the whole world not just gentiles but all who believe Jesus to be God's son who died on their behalf and rose again as the transformed head of a new race succeeding the Adamic failure all around us now. ANSWER: Old covenant motivates most Jews who have expectation of a messiah but that's because they are temporarily blinded spiritually. Effective now is the period of God's gracious gift to the entire world, NOT ANY COVENANT. Remember that you are quoting a letter to Israel a covenant people and this passage appears prophetic to me. The old covenant is rendered obsolete but the new has not yet replaced it. When this current period ends and the tribulation clears the Earth and punishes Israel to God's satisfaction, the NEW COVENANT may begin between the entity of mankind and God. I'm still trying to sort these future events out, but the past is past, and Scripture clarifies what God was doing as He interacted with Gentiles (drowned in the great flood) Jews, apostles, disciples, and enemies of the Gospel of the Kingdom and God's sacrifice of his son for the portion of mankind that accept Him. The marriage supper of the Lamb is a separate event that is simultaneous with the horrors of the Tribulation after which I understand the new covenant will become effective. I hope that helps and I hope my analysis (with the help of commentators) does not mislead.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Жыл бұрын
@@edwardwalsh5477 The Old Covenant was already made "obsolete" by the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:13, and completely passed away about 5 years after the verse was recorded during the Roman siege of 70 AD. The text of Heb. 12:18-24 was written in the present tense during the first century. We are not come to Mount Sinai in Heb. 12:18. We are come instead to the new covenant church of Mount Sion and the blood of Jesus in Heb. 12:22-24. How could it be any clearer?
@maxsmith3335
@maxsmith3335 Жыл бұрын
Paul wasn’t forced to believe but also was unable to deny…My conversion was very similar. In one moment I was literally incapable of believing and in the very next moment I was incapable of unknowing the reality of God. You can’t unsee what you’ve seen. So while God didn’t force my will to believe my will is definitely held captive.
@Iccdoc
@Iccdoc Жыл бұрын
You are regenerated by the holy Spirit. You cannot respond positively to God until that happens.
@johntrevett2944
@johntrevett2944 Жыл бұрын
Can you show me, IN SCRIPTURE, where one is regenerated prior to saving faith?
@stevenaguilera9202
@stevenaguilera9202 Жыл бұрын
@@johntrevett2944 It isn't Scriptural. Even Romans 10:17 says Faith comes by hearing and hearing from the word of Christ. And John 6:44 says Noone can come to me(Jesus) unless the Father who sent me DRAWS him. When you put these passages together, God draws people to Jesus VIA HEARING THE GOSPEL. And at that moment is when we decide to have FAITH or not. It's that simple. The "regeneration precedes faith" is alien and makes no sense tbh.
@johntrevett2944
@johntrevett2944 Жыл бұрын
@stevenaguilera9202 I agree. I would agree with calvinism 100% if I was ever shown this in scripture, but it isn't.
@maxsmith3335
@maxsmith3335 Жыл бұрын
@@johntrevett2944 John 3:8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” There is a reason one person responds to the Gospel and another doesn’t and it has NOTHING to do with the will of the individual. Either the Spirit of God moves on that person or He doesn’t.
@jica4141
@jica4141 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm too much like a little child (tho I'm 72), but i keep things simple ~ only 2 labels i use are saved and lost. I've been thoroughly, completely saved for 63 years, tho the life that began as a seed has grown into a mature, fruit producing tree. My faith has been tested by fire, but my Father God has been faithful to His Word and kept all his promises to me. I expect to be with Him for eternity soon, either by death or rapture, but in the meantime, I'm going to share about Him at every opportunity and use my resources to spread His gospel of salvation. I have compassion for anyone who doesn't know the peace of God, and peace with God, that i do. I have sweet fellowship and harmony with Believers, which i believe the Father desires. I have guidance and strength to face what the fallen world throws at me from the inspired Word. But best of all, i have so much joy and contentment from my relationship and constant companionship of Jesus. Fasting, prayer, meditating on the Word, teaching and serving those in my small corner of the world keeps me occupied until that final day. Marantha!!
@christianuniversalist
@christianuniversalist 11 ай бұрын
Being saved from God is not being saved, it’s being spared.-that is not the gospel.
@marieeab01
@marieeab01 10 ай бұрын
I’m with you, stay out of camps and follow the The Lords commandments.
@gregoryfairchild2460
@gregoryfairchild2460 Жыл бұрын
God is not the author of confusion. He said what he meant.
@X4ert
@X4ert Жыл бұрын
Exactly....and HE meant what he said.
@lightworker4512
@lightworker4512 Жыл бұрын
God is oneness, Unity, transcends duality. Men are the authors of confusion. Men have their biases and agendas in the written word. The Creator does not have the petty low consciousness of man
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
@@lightworker4512 Didn't Jesus declare that he was here to set father against child, mother against daughter?
@Belmont1714
@Belmont1714 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardwalsh5477 You're twisting His words.
@lightworker4512
@lightworker4512 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardwalsh5477 No, he never said that. Jesus never wrote one word down as a matter of fact as he never came here to start a religion.
@Iccdoc
@Iccdoc Жыл бұрын
Even the ability to respond and the desire to respond is given by God.
@michaeloreilly4040
@michaeloreilly4040 10 ай бұрын
Or... We're all humans with no actual connection to the supernatural because the supernatural doesn't exist, and we're all just trying to figure out a good way to live.
@michaeloreilly4040
@michaeloreilly4040 10 ай бұрын
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that none of us have any hard proof of anything, so in a world with no hard proof, we're all just trying to figure it out.
@thirdplace3973
@thirdplace3973 Жыл бұрын
"You can't read the Bible and know what it says, you need the secret esoteric meaning of the text explained to you." This is Gnostic philosophy.
@ThecrosseyedTexan
@ThecrosseyedTexan Жыл бұрын
I've always felt this way God can hold two different things in his head at the same time just like the rest of us can. I don't know why that's such a hard concept
@rocketscientisttoo
@rocketscientisttoo Жыл бұрын
Wow, the allegorical approach is almost an exact parallel with the Roman Catholic approach in as far as the people could never really know what the Scriptures said unless and until they heard it from a priest.
@johnflorio3576
@johnflorio3576 Жыл бұрын
That’s not what the Catholic Church teaches. Sacred Scripture cannot be privately interpreted (2 Peter 1:20).
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
@@johnflorio3576 Peter was right but what's the alternative? I say it's Scripture (not their personal opinion - Peter) that enlightens bible students. And it's not some Priest either. Jesus, himself, told his disciples that they did not need to find someone to call "Father" because they had "one father in heaven" and Hebrews (whole chapters 1-4) identifies Jesus as the everlasting, perfect priest of all post passion believers. Drop the sacerdotal system and go DIRECTLY to God in prayer on the authority of the personal savior "in Jesus' name". Paul promised that God's Holy Spirit will help those as they pray.
@lightworker4512
@lightworker4512 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@edwardwalsh5477I agree with you, you can connect to the Creator on your own. I’m Jewish, and the first Hebrew letter beginning the Bible is BET, the second letter of the Hebrew alphabet and not Alph (one). BET signifies we are born blessed ( Baruch) with a spark of the Creator concealed within us while being born in this world of contrast. Our greatest purpose is to reconnect to the Creator within us and integrate our divinity with our humanity.
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
@@lightworker4512 Since God is spirit and we are only part spirit, we depend upon Him to learn about and communicate with Him. The methods he chose over millennia, have varied - directly (Adam and Eve) until the Fall when estrangement began. Then thru His selected spokespersons such as Noah and later via multiple prophets but now, on the authority of Jesus, we may address Him directly. However, we cannot make our own truth. In the natural world, God shows some things about Himself (reliable, powerful, etc.) but from prophets we get verbal communication opening the path to closer relationship and better understandings. His current highly accessible communications path is remarkable with nature, the written word, and His Holy Spirit combining to provide us with all we need to know in order to relate properly to Him. Currently the Holy spirit does not reside within all earthlings, Jesus promise of Him "will be in you" is being experienced by millions around the globe right now. Wonderful opportunity for the mending of the human divine relationship broken in the Garden.
@danielsilva9502
@danielsilva9502 10 ай бұрын
@@lightworker4512 What about Jesus?
@fightthegoodfightoffaithmi8676
@fightthegoodfightoffaithmi8676 Жыл бұрын
Psalms 19:13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression. John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
@charlespackwood2055
@charlespackwood2055 Жыл бұрын
Man, your church is going to be one of the smartest around.
@jessemayra
@jessemayra Ай бұрын
I’ve never really understood the difference…I appreciate the teaching in this video
@allison2941
@allison2941 Жыл бұрын
Had to turn this off. This is a great misrepresentation of Covenant Theology. “Somebody” has been indoctrinated in Dispensation theology and has not thoroughly studied covenant theology.
@GeronimoAguilar-w3m
@GeronimoAguilar-w3m Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought I didn’t even recognize my own Amil position Covenanters uh😳🤦🏽‍♂️???
@Watchmanonthewall626
@Watchmanonthewall626 Жыл бұрын
Racial Covenant Idendity are what all the covenants are based on.
@johnygoodwin3441
@johnygoodwin3441 Жыл бұрын
I agree, this is really awful
@kyleoliva2411
@kyleoliva2411 Жыл бұрын
Correct, catholics would be covenant, and decidedly not calvinist. Starting out the gate with a misstatement like covenant theologians are almost 100% Calvinist is pretty wild.
@wish01bone50
@wish01bone50 Жыл бұрын
You are correct. It is a gross misrepresentation of Covenant Theology. Not only does he get that wrong, he even gets Dispensationalism wrong also. Nobody interprets the Bible in a literalist way 100%. Covenant Theologians are literalists in the classic definition of the term. Interpreting scripture by it’s literary genre and also interpreting scripture by scripture or the analogy of faith.
@RezuSlasher
@RezuSlasher Жыл бұрын
It would seem that if the Lord says something that He intends to be primarily symbolic, not primarily literal, He'll plainly say whether it's a parable. He didn't leave anything unsolved (of things He intended we should know).
@johnpatmos1722
@johnpatmos1722 Жыл бұрын
Five minutes into it, the speaker is so confused and unsure of his own understanding of the subject and leaves us with only a vague and likely skewed view on the subjects.
@peteverhelst2088
@peteverhelst2088 Жыл бұрын
I’m of the reformed perspective. I’ve heard one of our ministers say that there never was a covenant of works. It is all grace from the creation onward.
@mcgeorgerl
@mcgeorgerl 20 күн бұрын
Regardless to the importance of 'works' in either testament, salvation has always been by the grace of God alone. It's that whole "filthy rags" thing...
@deezynar
@deezynar Жыл бұрын
The human response to God is to hide from him, and/or mock him. Adam hid because he had died spiritually. God hunted Adam down and redeemed him without any cooperation, or permission from Adam. Salvation happens by the Holy Spirit entering a predestined person at the moment that God set for him to be saved before the creation of the world. There is scripture for every claim I've made above.
@notmyhome
@notmyhome Жыл бұрын
Amen and what a great day when we see HIM!
@bobwilson3980
@bobwilson3980 Жыл бұрын
Us non believers will say the same thing. I bet we both will be surprise.
@Abacab965
@Abacab965 Жыл бұрын
​@@bobwilson3980ohh you're gonna be surprised alright !
@bobwilson3980
@bobwilson3980 Жыл бұрын
@@Abacab965 what have you seen that make you think that anything in that old book is real. Because I haven’t seen one damn thing.
@bobwilson3980
@bobwilson3980 Жыл бұрын
@@Abacab965 I see no reason or “proof” that any of that crap is real. I’m sure that those olden Kings had to make up god stories to stay in power. Especially when you order people to cut women’s bellies often to kill the unborn. To think that that god got carried over as the good guy.
@notmyhome
@notmyhome Жыл бұрын
Read 2 Peter chapter 3
@paullockyer7905
@paullockyer7905 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this explanation of the difference between Dispensationalism and Covenant Theology. I’ve always wanted to see and hear this direct comparison. It explains why some Christians I know have what appears to be crazy ideas sourced from replacement theology.
@tomcox5063
@tomcox5063 6 ай бұрын
Great presentation! I see so many of the covenant camp spewing hatred towards those with a Dispensational view. These are secondary issues
@DonnieHall-we9ry
@DonnieHall-we9ry Жыл бұрын
God bless you Brother Barnett ✝️✡️🇺🇸❤️
@notsure2105
@notsure2105 10 ай бұрын
All I can say is when studying the Bible is cry out to God for the TRUTH. What is the TRUTH ? God will lead you and show you. So many of the teachings of the Church today no matter the denomination have been man made. They only cause division. Satan has attacked the Church continually over the time of the Church and the Church overall has failed in guarding the flock.
@Imsaved777
@Imsaved777 Жыл бұрын
My question is, how could anyone believe in covenant theology?
@gsp8489
@gsp8489 8 ай бұрын
Well, I was raised dispensational without even knowing what it was a thing until recently and based on the research I've done in the last six months, CT is really not like he is describing. His description of it really seems like he is basing his talk on what he heard another dispensational preacher describe CT as and not by actually reading or listening to any one who actually holds to CT themselves
@patrickmccarthy1121
@patrickmccarthy1121 7 ай бұрын
My friend, this is not a true representation of CT. Plenty of better resources out there if you honestly want to know how people can believe it
@warriorpriestblog
@warriorpriestblog 6 ай бұрын
Tradition and a desire on the part of Gentiles to possess what God has promised to the nation of Israel.
@patrickmccarthy1121
@patrickmccarthy1121 6 ай бұрын
@@warriorpriestblog the church is Israel my friend
@warriorpriestblog
@warriorpriestblog 6 ай бұрын
@@patrickmccarthy1121 Funny. The Bible says the exact opposite.
@michealferrell1677
@michealferrell1677 Жыл бұрын
Covenant theology uses the biblical model and Dispensationalism imposes an interpretive grid that is foreign to the text . That is what I learned after much time in SBC circles
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
So SBC thinks Dispensationalism is not Biblical? They have much to learn. Without divisions in Scripture and in time among people groups, there's too much contradiction in the Bible to be an effective guide. Too much to write here but there are books which will point the Biblical basis and different applications of BOTH covenant and dispensational "rightly dividing" of scriptures.
@michealferrell1677
@michealferrell1677 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardwalsh5477 What I was trying to communicate is that I left the SBC ultimately
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
@@michealferrell1677 that's OK so long as you seek God's merciful salvation thru Christ alone.
@michealferrell1677
@michealferrell1677 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardwalsh5477 I agree , and I am trusting in Christ alone
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
Isn't God great! With all the complexity of the material world (atoms to nebulae) and the mysteries of the invisible world living vs non-living and the constraints of time, even a child can understand God's plan for salvation and move to accept it!@@michealferrell1677
@dfelcman
@dfelcman Жыл бұрын
This is possibly the worst representation of covenant theology I’ve ever heard.
@besearchingforwisdom6267
@besearchingforwisdom6267 Жыл бұрын
The only way to find peace in dying is to know about dying, and the opportunity we have for eternal life in the finished work of His Son, the Messiah, Jesus the Christ... Repent and believe
@lw6138
@lw6138 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this.
@patgruzenski4024
@patgruzenski4024 4 ай бұрын
God did not “look down and choose “….but chose before time and birth!!!
@alliellioxenfree
@alliellioxenfree 7 күн бұрын
He chose "according to foreknowledge", (as to whether one would keep faith in Jesus Christ or not).
@paullavoie5542
@paullavoie5542 Жыл бұрын
My point has always been that 'your interpretation' always starts with the Bible couldn't possibly mean that so it must mean this..
@stevenaguilera9202
@stevenaguilera9202 Жыл бұрын
When speaking against Covenant Theology ?
@llewellynGS1
@llewellynGS1 Жыл бұрын
Dr Barnett I am not sure what side you fall on (Calvinist? Dispensationalist? Other?) but clearly you have not studied Calvinism/Covenant Theology well at all. As someone who has been reformed in theology for over 15 years I can say that you have some gross misrepresentations here; and you mention some areas that I have never heard any reformed person talk about. First of all, you seem to say that a big thing with reformed theology is to see the Bible “allegorically”- this is totally false- where did you get this from? Secondly you mention that the covenant of grace can’t be a thing (you insinuate this) because the word grace isn’t mentioned until genesis 6. It seems very shallow to me, to say a doctrine can’t be true because a word does not appear. We for instance believe the doctrine of the trinity, though that word is not in the Bible. The convent of grace was first spoken of in Genesis 3, when God first promised a redeemer. Also, you say reformed people believe in replacement theology which is also not true, though I know there are people who believe that. However this does not represent most reformed people. You do not represent at all the main tenants of reformed theology- you don’t mention them at all. Best to stay off the internet, if you are so far off with your understanding.
@johnwhoissavedbygrace9975
@johnwhoissavedbygrace9975 Жыл бұрын
I got about 5-10 minutes in and couldn't finish. I know, from other videos, you're a smart guy. But it seems your understanding of covenant theology is very very wrong.
@markb.8756
@markb.8756 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link that explains CT as you understand it?
@TheMaineSurveyor
@TheMaineSurveyor Жыл бұрын
@@markb.8756I’m not if this channel allows links in comments, but RC Sproul has a lecture series called What Is Reformed Theology? on the Ligonier KZbin channel. It gives a basic overview.
@mcgeorgerl
@mcgeorgerl 20 күн бұрын
But the problem here is that everything that was said about CT, I've heard at one time or another from CT believers.
@suzettebuxmann5913
@suzettebuxmann5913 Жыл бұрын
The English word testament derives from a Greek term meaning “covenant.” In Hebrew, it means “agreement,” “covenant,” or “contract.”
@Samuelh777
@Samuelh777 5 ай бұрын
Covenant Theology ultimately leads to replacement theology which is very dangerous. We did NOT replace Israel. According to Ezekiel 40-48 and Revelation 20 the messianic kingdom of Israel will have a glorious future during the Millennial reign of Christ. A literal 1000 years after the literal 2nd coming of Christ. There are at least two reasons why literalism is the best way to view Scripture. First, philosophically, the purpose of language itself requires that we interpret words literally. Language was given by God for the purpose of being able to communicate. Words are vessels of meaning. The second reason is biblical. Every prophecy about Jesus Christ in the Old Testament was fulfilled literally. Jesus’ birth, ministry, death, and resurrection all occurred exactly as the Old Testament predicted. The prophecies were literal. There is no non-literal fulfillment of messianic prophecies in the New Testament. This argues strongly for the literal method. If a literal interpretation is not used in studying the Scriptures, there is no objective standard by which to understand the Bible. Each person would be able to interpret the Bible as he saw fit. Biblical interpretation would devolve into “what this passage says to me” instead of “the Bible says.” Sadly, this is already the case in much of what is called Bible study today. Dispensational theology teaches that there are two distinct peoples of God: Israel and the Church. Romans 11:25-26 makes that clear. Dispensationalists believe that salvation has always been by grace through faith alone-in God in the Old Testament and specifically in God the Son in the New Testament. Dispensationalists hold that the Church has not replaced Israel in God’s program and that the Old Testament promises to Israel have not been transferred to the Church. Dispensationalism teaches that the promises God made to Israel in the Old Testament (for land, many descendants, and blessings) will be ultimately fulfilled in the 1000-year period spoken of in Revelation 20. Dispensationalists believe that, just as God is in this age focusing His attention on the Church, He will again in the future focus His attention on Israel (see Romans 9-11 and Daniel 9:24).
@roycemcdougal9842
@roycemcdougal9842 Жыл бұрын
It seems both have chosen to use time elements as they decide (ie. 1 day = 1 year, 6 days of creation = 1 days is but a 1000 years) Please decipher, thanks.
@mariosangermano
@mariosangermano Жыл бұрын
As a Calvinist I am Dispensationalist in the line John macArthur. I'm also a premillennialist, and believe in the rapture of the church, and the fulfillment of the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants God promised Israel, not the church In the millennial reign of Christ on earth. The whole bible should be read with a Literal- Grammatical hermeneutic.
@blueeyesftlaud6593
@blueeyesftlaud6593 Жыл бұрын
Allegorical..just let's everyone do what is right in their own eyes
@edwardwalsh5477
@edwardwalsh5477 Жыл бұрын
Read history such as Judges to see where that leads. Not good except when everyone's eyes are free of "beams"; Jesus.
@TyroneKozlowski
@TyroneKozlowski 10 күн бұрын
So, let everyone do what they want, hmmm? Sounds convenient.
@michealferrell1677
@michealferrell1677 Жыл бұрын
Eschatology is a house with only two rooms in it one room consists of this age and the other the age to come . We can disagree a little on how the furniture is arranged but that is it .
@brucedavenport7016
@brucedavenport7016 Жыл бұрын
There is only one type of Christianity that will guarantee your salvation. The one God established through his Son Jesus the Christ. Everything else is white noise! Repent, be baptised, get filled with the Holy Spirit, walk in Christ.
@davescrimshaw7781
@davescrimshaw7781 Жыл бұрын
The best, clearest and concise explanation i have heard.
@vincentkyt
@vincentkyt Жыл бұрын
Thank God for you pastor John
@johnfroelich8554
@johnfroelich8554 Жыл бұрын
Not so fast
@johfu4705
@johfu4705 Жыл бұрын
This is a very simplistic and inaccurate presentation of covenant theology.
@justinjustin4605
@justinjustin4605 2 ай бұрын
Wait so what do people who are not dispensationalists or Calvinist’s believe?
@kevinmoore3033
@kevinmoore3033 11 ай бұрын
Don’t let hatred for Jews cloud your ability to understand God’s Word.
@rolandobartolome7350
@rolandobartolome7350 Жыл бұрын
The deceived doesn’t know that they are
@n8thanisagpa584
@n8thanisagpa584 Жыл бұрын
what do you believe pastor?
@suzanholland
@suzanholland Жыл бұрын
and then there is the Biblical view, which is neither of these
@gordonwells1626
@gordonwells1626 Жыл бұрын
Agree Suzanholland…..The Apostle Paul calls us the Metachos (Partakers). This CT DP stuff is tedious and goes nowhere in the end….a distraction
@babylonsfall7
@babylonsfall7 Жыл бұрын
@12:43 - this was already fulfilled and it’s interesting that Luke uses the word “pierced” to the heart. Zechariah says “look on the one whom they pierced.” “Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ-this Jesus whom you crucified.” Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭2‬:‭36‬-‭37‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬ Notice how Peter also lays the blame on them for crucifying Jesus when we says, “whom *you* crucified.”
@philrussell6920
@philrussell6920 Жыл бұрын
Nonsense. He has misrepresented Calvinism in too many ways to be enumerated here. Do not be deceived by this relatively new theology. It misinterprets scripture and contradicts two millennia of Christian orthodoxy.
@wadem4955
@wadem4955 10 ай бұрын
Covenant theology vs Dispensationalism is essentially kind of like Catholicism vs Protestant. It steps out of the whole error, but retains many of the errors still clinging to the root that GOD deals with mankind differently throughout time and that "the church" replaces Israel. The sovereign does not adjust, HE adjusts us which is why the new heart... very important... New Hearts... Same Law... Also....Only Israel and Judah are in the new covenant... Grafted in to Israel.... Not the other way. It is a wild (gentile) olive branch grafted in. That branch will produce olives... just like the root. If it priduces acorns, pine cones, cherries, holly...etc... it will be broken off and replaced with the branches previously broken off grafted back in... Rom 11... One tree with one root... One GOD, One Law, one flock one shepherd. Once grafted in we are no longer gentiles Eph 2:12 we are fellow citizens so we need to stop clinging to our fleshly blood lines... This is Rom 8:7 carnal mind thinking I'm not Jewish so the Jewish things Jesus does don't apply to me...wrong... In HIM is neither Jew nor gentile.... just GOD. So if HE did it, if HE walked it, then it is our example 1 Pet 2:21, we should imitate 1 Cor 11:1, and walk as HE did 1 Jhn 2:6. We cannot reject the part of THE WORD in the flesh we think is Jewish by refusing to imitate that part of HIM... The Church began in the garden where two or more people were gathered HE was there. Church occurs more often in the Old Testament than the New, and it's always been grace thru faith which is why there isn't 1 single New Testament believer in Heb 11 The Hall of faith. Romans 1:20 HIS invisible attributes revealed in what has been made... The Heaven and earth are called as witnesses in Deu 4, and Deu 30... Why? Because unlike man Heaven and earth have no choice, and obey HIS commandments intrinsically. Man given the choice to disobey has the Heavens and earth right outside our windows showing us neither HE, nor HIS commandments change. Come out of her my children.....Rev 18:4
@billgolden4029
@billgolden4029 Жыл бұрын
Covenant theology believes in the principle of the anology of faith or let the Bible interpret the Bible not in allegory
@bigbadmamajama11
@bigbadmamajama11 11 ай бұрын
The only issues with some of the Dispensationalist view of Israel is to ignore genetic lines, most of us could claim that we are Jews, many of us have Jewish descendants in our heritage.
@ProveAllThings1Th-5-21
@ProveAllThings1Th-5-21 3 ай бұрын
I've wondered how much Jewish blood has to run through ones veins for them to be considered 'Jewish'. Jews of our day cannot trace their lineage but still claim to be Jews. However, the Samaritans were half Jew, half Gentile and yet they were rejected by the Jews. I find it quite confusing.
@jeremy85
@jeremy85 Жыл бұрын
this is a huge misrepresentation of covenant theology, to say we don't take the bible literally when it is literal is a lie. if anyone is wanting to get a true representation, i recommend you go to a believer of covenant theology to get an honest representation, rc sproul has an entire series on this for example. paul washer, voddie bauchman, charles spurgeon, john owens, are all examples of covenant theologians you can find tons of material on.
@davidpisachubbe7869
@davidpisachubbe7869 12 күн бұрын
Covenant theologians do interpret prophetic passages about Israel and the land allegorically. And these prophecies are a big part of old testament prophecy. This guy gave an accurate representation of covenant theology.
@jeremy85
@jeremy85 12 күн бұрын
@@davidpisachubbe7869 it's not.
@davidpisachubbe7869
@davidpisachubbe7869 11 күн бұрын
@@jeremy85 Are you telling me that covenant theologians do not believe that the old testament prophecies concerning the nation of Israel and the land that was promised to them are actually fulfilled by the church? Because that is exactly what classical covenant theologians believe. Maybe the newer modified version of covenant theology doesn't believe it that way but classical covenant theology certainly does.
@jeremy85
@jeremy85 11 күн бұрын
​@@davidpisachubbe7869 we take the bible literally, when it is literal. to say we don't is a misrepresentation, im sure you can find others in this comment section who have said the same thing I have said. im not a teacher but I have left plenty teachers in my original comment. im not going to argue with you, have a blessed day.
@davidpisachubbe7869
@davidpisachubbe7869 11 күн бұрын
@@jeremy85 well since you don't want to debate then I guess I get the last word. The promised given to the nation of Israel and the land that God promised to them are not allegorical but are literal. That issue has a big impact on how prophecy plays out. Have a great day.
@Waltham1892
@Waltham1892 Жыл бұрын
This is very much like listening to folks talk about Star Wars vs Star Trek. Except, I think Star Wars and Star Trek are more important than this.
@bop-ya-good
@bop-ya-good Жыл бұрын
I have not entered into a covenant but participate in the dispensation of grace.
@nero-e8n
@nero-e8n Жыл бұрын
The MOST RELEVENT verses in the Bible are almost never discussed. Revelation 2:9. And Revelation 3:9.
@logannicholson6400
@logannicholson6400 Жыл бұрын
Wow. You really need to learn what covenant theologians believe before you try teaching it. You created enough straw men to save the Kansas wheat crop.
@saltlightthepursuitofholin8991
@saltlightthepursuitofholin8991 4 ай бұрын
You said that 24% of the OT is about the millennium. I tried googling that to no avail. I would be grateful if you could provide me a source on that. The millennium is something I've been wanting to study for a while
@kelvinwilsonpoet3200
@kelvinwilsonpoet3200 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this history lesson. However about this new Jerusalem. It has 12 gates, each named for a tribe of Israel. What of the church? There is no 13th gate marked the church?
@stuarthart7888
@stuarthart7888 10 ай бұрын
As a Covenant theologian I do not recognise so many of the statements made here. For example, I do not hold to the allegorical approach, unless obvious, as dispensationalists also do, nor do I hold to the church replacing Israel. But I do believe, as Paul wrote in Ephesians 2, that there is now no barrier between Jew and non-Jew. There is only one people of God. As jica4141 said, there are only lost and saved, and Jews and non-Jews are in both those categories.
@dd3808
@dd3808 Жыл бұрын
Mathew 13:35 " I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter what has been hidden since the foundation of the world. " I, myself do not take the Bible literally. The meaning of "Israel" in Hebrew: Those who struggle with God
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
You really don't take any of the Bible literally ? So you don't believe CHRIST is returning ?
@dd3808
@dd3808 Жыл бұрын
@@cecilspurlockjr.9421 He's here already....in Spirit That's how we are to know him " In Spirit and in Truth"
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
@@dd3808 THE HOLY SPIRIT is here but CHRIST hasn't returned like scripture tells us HE will . CHRIST said that the whole world would see HIM when HE returns and that certainly hasn't happened . Preterism is considered heresy my friend.
@dd3808
@dd3808 Жыл бұрын
@@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Yes, the Holy Spirit is here. Should have said it that way Take care😃
@dd3808
@dd3808 Жыл бұрын
John 14: 21-26 He that hath my commandments, he it is that loveth me, and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 🙂
@parenthope3
@parenthope3 Жыл бұрын
Very important...when I use the word Calvinism, I qualify that John Calvin was NOT a Calvinist.
@lukewagner8871
@lukewagner8871 Жыл бұрын
To simplify it. There are two covenants, law and promise. Galatians 4:21-26,28,30-31 KJVS Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? [22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. [23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. [24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. [25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. [26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. [28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. [30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. [31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. In the previous chapter Paul writes this. Galatians 3:16,27,29 KJVS Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. [27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Only those in Christ are heirs of the promise. The promises God made to the Fathers are in Christ. Ephesians 2:12-13 KJVS That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 2 Corinthians 1:20 KJVS For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.
@davidchase1439
@davidchase1439 Жыл бұрын
Being a reformed Baptist do see millennium still and believers water baptism
@MrMan-jf8yi
@MrMan-jf8yi Жыл бұрын
In a spiritual sense, I see Judah as representing the church and the house of David as representing the nation Israel. In this view Judah being saved first represents the rapture. "The Lord also will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem will not be greater than Judah." Before the rapture the church will be on fire for the Lord to bring the lost to a saving knowledge of Christ through the gospel. "On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a firepot among pieces of wood and a flaming torch among sheaves, so they will consume on the right and on the left all the surrounding peoples, while the inhabitants of Jerusalem again live on their own sites in Jerusalem." I believe there is a physical and spiritual application to prophesy so Calvinism and Dispensationalism is a division of man not the Spirit. This could also represent the 144,000 before the war of Armageddon.
@mauricerobertson1944
@mauricerobertson1944 Жыл бұрын
Jesus said that HE is establishing a new covenant through his blood for the remission of sin. Even if that is the only time the word covenant appears in the bible! Nothing can trump that. The word dispensation only appears 4 x times in the NT and the word Covenant 292 times in KJV. Dispensational theology created by man in the 1800. Spurgeon never preached dispensation theology. Why?
@suzettebuxmann5913
@suzettebuxmann5913 Жыл бұрын
The English word testament derives from a Greek term meaning “covenant.” In Hebrew, it means “agreement,” “covenant,” or “contract.”
@WillyBilly53
@WillyBilly53 Ай бұрын
How can you take the time to spell out Abraham and not Christ?
@newtsguy
@newtsguy Жыл бұрын
I know of no covenant theologian who alegorizes. Notice he has said "this is extreme." He knows the difference. He is a liar.
@unworthy_outcast
@unworthy_outcast Жыл бұрын
I disagree but you are an incredible teacher. I am not a Calvinist by the way.
@YuvaRaj-kq9yn
@YuvaRaj-kq9yn 2 ай бұрын
Are CTs calvinists?
@scottw1828
@scottw1828 Жыл бұрын
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 BY WHI CH YE ARE ALSO SAVED, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 2 Corinthians 4:3 - But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: Luke 18: 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 AND THEY UNDERSTOOD NONE OF THESE THINGS, and this saying was HID FROM THEM, neither knew they the things which were spoken. You would have to believe the disciples following Jesus were lost at this time. That is ludicrous. They didnt un derstand the death, burial, and resurrection, much less believing it to be the good news gospel of our salvation.
@All-Things-New
@All-Things-New Жыл бұрын
Not sure that John PIper called be called NCT. He is a pure Calvinist. NCT sees One purpose revealed in Christ. NCT sees the Law as promise and shadow, not as an "administration" of the one Covenant of Grace as in CT
@jaspin555
@jaspin555 Жыл бұрын
The book of revelation makes apparent use of apocalyptic literature and terminology from OT prophets. It is silly to see everything in scripture as being all literal or all symbolic, it takes the Spirit of God and wisdom to understand. Yes, angels will at times give interpretation to things, but that does not mean everything else is literal. Take beasts and horns. These are clearly built off of Daniels prophecies, where we see they represent kingdoms and powers on earth. Ultimately we should not be sold out on any mans interpretation of scripture, but we should be sold out on seeking first God, and being in the spirit and prayerfully asking for understanding of his word. Are we followers of Yhwh or John Maccarthur?
@Paul-in-Australia
@Paul-in-Australia Жыл бұрын
I am a follower of Jesus
@jaspin555
@jaspin555 Жыл бұрын
Im not saying we cant listen and learn from others obviously. But i do think the dispensational vs covenantal debate is much more nuanced than presented here. There are errors in both extremes.
@jaspin555
@jaspin555 Жыл бұрын
@user-py2lu9hk4d wait, try telling God what exactly? Im confused about what you mean.
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
​@jaspin555 There's error in any extreme ideology .
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
YHWH of course . Certainly never John MacArthur. Anyone who ties limited atonement to the gospel turns it into another gospel, a false gospel actually.
@Rood67
@Rood67 Жыл бұрын
Doc was firing on all cylinders until he ran out of gas and run off the road; only the Jews will be on earth during the millennial reign?!? Jesus stated, where I am, there you will be also Jude wrote thanChrist is returning with thousand thousands of His saints Paul wrote that we will reign with Him (Jesus) Jesus laid out His plan for believers with the parable of talents; those who have been faithful will rule Jews are not the only ones living after the tribulation period. I have no idea where Doc got this thought from.
@Abacab965
@Abacab965 Жыл бұрын
I must agree with you !
@JesseMgala
@JesseMgala Жыл бұрын
At what minute mark did he say that "only the Jews are living after the tribulation period?" I'll wait.
@Rood67
@Rood67 Жыл бұрын
@@JesseMgalaou could just watch the video and listen. But since you’re too lazy for that; between 17:00 - 18:00 specifically around 17:30 - 17:46; with the statement being around the 17:40 point.
@JesseMgala
@JesseMgala Жыл бұрын
@Rood67 I did watched the video and couldn't find your assertion. Maybe you should watch it again. I watched at the minute mark you've given me and here's the transcript. "...they become with 144 000 and *anybody that survives a tribulation that believed* through the message of the angel, the two prophets and 144 thousand, *they become the literal physical human beings that cross over from the tribulation into the millennial world of chapter 20 of Revelation..."*
@Rood67
@Rood67 Жыл бұрын
@@JesseMgala I'll not argue the point with you because you appear to only want to argue and be cantankerous. If you listen from 17:00 up; he specifically states the remnant (Jews) living in Jerusalem with the 144,000 will be the only people to inhabit the millennial kingdom. When by scripture, any that survive the tribulation period will be alive on earth during Christ 1,000 year reign. And by scripture, those that accepted Christ as their Savior now, will rule and reign with him.
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
Nowhere in scripture do we see GOD predestining or selecting people to believe . Those who are in CHRIST because they have heard and believed the word of truth are predestined to the adoption upon the redemption of the body unto glorification where we will be holy and blameless before GOD.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Жыл бұрын
Read the recent book "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism" by Dr. Ken Wilson, to see the original source of this man-made doctrine.
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
@SpotterVideo Thank you , I know, I watched him give a presentation on his book . Actual theologians know all of this stuff about augustine and Calvin, but these calvinist u tubers have blinded and indoctrinated so very many new or biblically illiterate Christians with their blasphemous gnostic teachings .
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Жыл бұрын
@@cecilspurlockjr.9421 How much do you know about the New Covenant, which is not found in the man-made confessions of Reformed Covenant Theology? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the KZbin videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
@JesseMgala
@JesseMgala Жыл бұрын
​@@cecilspurlockjr.9421There are two entities that God has predestined, the elect among the Jews and the church. Any Gentile who believes in Jesus as the Scriptures say will become part of the church, His body. The elect among the Jews is what will make the "all Israel" in Romans 11:26. There is another group and this may include the both Jews and Gentiles. Rev 13:8; 17:8 talk about those whose names have not been written in book of life from the foundation of the world. Conversely, there are those whose names have been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world. During the tribulation they won't worship the beast. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, *whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.* Revelation 13:8 NKJV The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And *those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world,* when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Revelation 17:8 NKJV Paul talked about predestination. in whom also we, _the church,_ have obtained an inheritance, *being predestinated* according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Ephesians 1:11 KJV
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 Жыл бұрын
Your assumption is clearly wrong, as Christ Himself stated twice in Jhn 6 that NOBODY can come to Him unless the Father calls them first. Later on in the same book, Christ told the disciples that He chose them, and not the other way around. None of the prophets or apostles came to God because they volunteered themselves. As Christ told Peter in Matt. 16, he knew who Jesus was because he Father made it possible for him to know.
@glendagaskin151
@glendagaskin151 Жыл бұрын
Dispensations have been simple for me. Why do we think we have to have all the answers. We live under grace. Adam another. Moses was given the law. Prophets warned the Jews. God was silent for 400 years. Then Jesus came to His own and was rejected by His own. The cross and the Apostle Paul were the last messenger of God. The people that think God has spoken to them outside the Bible. Jesus came and still people tried to get around Jesus Word. The truth that they don’t accept is the Book of Revelation is God’s final word. The simplistic truth is God sent Jesus and we have to believe. The church is the revelation of Jesus as Lord. He is coming back. That’s what matters. We are saved by God’s grace. The church was proclaimed by Jesus. I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL. IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP SEARCHING. HE IS FAITHFUL.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 Жыл бұрын
good presentation, on both systems....thanx...
@paulvoit5610
@paulvoit5610 Жыл бұрын
Dispensationalism divides the Body of Christ into two distinct and separate bodies. In Galatians Paul denounces Peter for doing this.
@markanthony3275
@markanthony3275 11 ай бұрын
No it doesn't. Dispensationalism acknowledges the ETERNAL covenant God made to Israel. What does the word ETERNAL mean? It means nothing changes it , not even the new covenant or ANY other covenant for that matter.
@shayalynn
@shayalynn 7 ай бұрын
@@markanthony3275 Jesus formed a new covenant which is the only one that saves us. We only inherit by becoming joint heirs with the Son, who inherits from the Father. This includes Jews or Gentiles. It doesn’t matter. We all need Jesus. Being a physical descendant of Abraham doesn’t benefit anything. That’s why Jesus said to the scribes and Pharisees: “And do not presume to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father,' for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.“
@shayalynn
@shayalynn 7 ай бұрын
@@markanthony3275 Galatians 3:7-9 King James Version (KJV) Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Galatians 3:7 (Interlinear) Know then that those of faith, these are the sons of Abraham. John 8:39 "Abraham is our father," they replied. "If you were children of Abraham," said Jesus, "you would do the works of Abraham. Romans 4:16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may rest on grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham's offspring--not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.
@markanthony3275
@markanthony3275 7 ай бұрын
@@shayalynn It doesn't benefit anyone that's true. However, God chose to deal with the people of Israel in a different way than those in the new covenant. In Ezekiel ch 35 :24-27 God is talking about the future, and He says of Israel..."I will take My people and I will put My Spirit in them and I will write my laws and commandments on their heart." When a person becomes a believer in Jesus Christ they receive the Spirit of God immediately. So who are these people who God calls "My people" who do not as of yet have the Spirit of God in them? It can only be the physical nation of Israel. God has two distinct peoples, and two distinct plans for them. Israel will go through the Tribulation, the church will not. Jesus will rule the world from Jerusalem and not Dallas Texas.
@neilwani1178
@neilwani1178 Жыл бұрын
There is one passage in the Bible that shows how people treat God's Word. In Luke 21 12-23, Jesus answered the question about the destruction of the 2nd temple. But in Luke 21 24-28, Jesus said Jerusalem will be trampled by the gentiles till the times of the gentiles will be fulfilled. And then the 2nd coming. The passage that shows how a person treats God's Word is Revelation chapter 11 when it starts to talk about the city of Jerusalem in the future. Rev 11 2 is future. The times of the gentiles will end 42 months from an event at the future 3rd temple in Jerusalem. It will be at a time 2 prophets will appear in Jerusalem. Why dont you covenant theology people post your study of Revelation chapter 11 here so people can see how you treat God's Word.
@StarckCA
@StarckCA Жыл бұрын
Exhibits a very poor understanding of Covenant Theology.
@kevinboutwell2243
@kevinboutwell2243 7 ай бұрын
Just to be clear the dispensation of grace is not whats being described here. I’ve never seen or ever will see anyone that isn’t a true dispensationalist according to Pauls gospel explain it correctly. It’s impossible to explain the dispensation of grace without understanding.
@SpeculativeEschatologist
@SpeculativeEschatologist 9 ай бұрын
New Covenant Israel Theology God made a New Covenant with the house of Israel into which 11 Israelites, having been discipled by God's genuine Son, entered. When Jesus of Nazareth (while still on the cross) drank the fruit of the vine, that New Covenant became active. Since Jesus had never sinned, all the blessing of the law of Moses became His inheritance- and the Treasury of New Covenant Israel. Since then, the gospel has been believed by gentiles who have been adopted into the house of Israel.
@frankb9575
@frankb9575 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Pastor John! I send your videos to people I know. Thank you for your service to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ 🙏 would you do a Bible study on The people or or explain how these cave man type skulls came about. Or were they regular people with differently shaped heads? Thank you and God bless you and your family! Frank B
@BranDonShowReal
@BranDonShowReal Жыл бұрын
Micro evolution is real and proven. A lot of these skulls have been proven to be types of primates but there is no empirical proof they were types of humans. So much of the science we were taught has not been proven but is taught to us as if its factual
@imamjimjamlawrence
@imamjimjamlawrence Жыл бұрын
Well people used to live a lot longer. 900+ years. Could that have something to do with the different shaped skulls?
@formersarge
@formersarge Жыл бұрын
I feel both descriptions were messy and not accurate.
@MaryLewis-jt5jx
@MaryLewis-jt5jx 11 ай бұрын
I heard Piper say he believes in a Millennium but Gentiles will be the leaders not Israel.
@donhaddix3770
@donhaddix3770 10 ай бұрын
DISPENSATION and COVENANTS do not contradict.
@paulgarduno2867
@paulgarduno2867 Жыл бұрын
In a few words; God couldn't explain what HE intended to say. But I can explain to you what really means. 🤔 nah !!! Allegorical could be anything! No wonder, so many different churches.
@travissharon1536
@travissharon1536 Жыл бұрын
The way you mentioned the dispensationalists were not always Calvinist, it makes me worry that you are of the opinion that there are only two choices, Amrinian Calvinism, or Bezan Calvinism.
@RUGRAF-rf8fi
@RUGRAF-rf8fi Жыл бұрын
The Bible explains itself. Man always mucks it up with it’s need to make it confusing or distorted. Christian true Christian is the only “ denomination” and follows the word of God guided by the Holy Spirit. Yes there are imagery to represent various aspects of prophetic texts. Let the Holy Spirit be the guide. The only rules and regulations for the True Christian is Jesus Christ’s. Seems too many want to be the governor of God’s word. I enjoy learning and connecting the two testaments and getting deeper understanding of each.
@kyleoliva2411
@kyleoliva2411 Жыл бұрын
Catholics are covenant and decidedly not Calvinist, not sure how you could say almost 100% of covenant theologians are Calvinist?
@ValiantValence
@ValiantValence Жыл бұрын
Dispensation 1 Corinthians 9:17 Ephesians 1:10 & 3:2 Colossians 1:25 2 Timothy 2:15 Dispensationalism means rightly dividing. Anything that doesn't contradict Paul is still valid. The entire bible is a required read but not applies to us today. John doesn't know what he's talking about! Romans 11:25 for jews today. Grace by faith doesn't begin until Jesus Christ resurrection and ends with the catching up. Belief the kjv is perfect Don't correct the kjv Rightly dividing Believe every word as it is written Pay attention to context Identify the the correct group (jews, gentiles, church/ believers not a building) Don't approach with a crocked motive Adam and eve had pure works salvation. Noah had to build the ark. Moses didn't get the law until exodus 20: . Dispensation of grace by faith and prayer, paul line. The time of Jacobs trouble. The millennial reign of Christ.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 Жыл бұрын
Moses didn't get the ten commandments, only the 600 plus laws AFTER the ten commandments, which is why the new covenant, is the ten commandments, minus the 600 plus laws through Moses.
@theonomist2908
@theonomist2908 Жыл бұрын
Abraham was justified by faith not works. Dispensationalism creates two ways of salvation which is wrong.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 Жыл бұрын
@theonomist2908 It is IMPOSSIBLE for the ten commandments to be WORKS. Not even rest is work. On the other hand, how many times is work mentioned on the new testament? Alot, including revelation.
@theonomist2908
@theonomist2908 Жыл бұрын
@@eltonron1558 God’s plan of redemption is the same in the old and the New Testament. Abraham was justified by faith and so was Paul.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 Жыл бұрын
@@theonomist2908 The world is justified by Christ. Mt. 12:31-32 Mk. 3:28
@johnday8677
@johnday8677 Жыл бұрын
Why was I sent this completely useless waste of my time of a discussion about a farcical book of fiction made up by men. The reference to Hitler , brought up a Catholic, being influenced by Luther is daft.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 Жыл бұрын
Small problem. Ever wonder why a book you call a farce, has lasted so long? Stood the test of time? Revered by millions? It documents God speaking to great crowds that HEARD HIM, at least twice. Yes it's by men who WITNESSED such things, so now you know the real reason it has credibility, not to mention the generational word of mouth, that relays the event WITHOUT the Bible.
@patriciahunter1566
@patriciahunter1566 Жыл бұрын
WOW!! You could not be more wrong! There are 5 covenants and that’s only the beginning of how wrong you are.
@joelnorton9742
@joelnorton9742 Жыл бұрын
Not all who believe in dispensations Are one thing. Not all who believe in covenant (new, old, melennial) believe in one thing.
@randyd9805
@randyd9805 Жыл бұрын
Scripturally the New Covenant did not begin until the veil of the temple was rent after Christ made the once and-for-all-time blood sacrifice of Himself on the cross as the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. EVERYTHING in the 4 Gospels prior to that was actually still under the Old Covenant including btw when Jesus tells Nicodemus, a Jewish man still under the law, that he "must be born again" and that you get born again by believing in the only begotten Son that the Father gave to the world as the sacrifice for our sins. This is crystal clear that the new birth was an OLD TESTAMENT DOCTRINE. It began with Adam and Eve believe it or not. This is very clear and indisputable if you simply believe what the Bible plainly states in crystal clear language. You will find over and over in the 4 Gospels the law is still being kept and Christ Himself perfectly keeping the law to the minutest detail from birth until death. You will find Christ teaching people to keep the law a number of times!!! I don't hold to either of the man-made distinctions of Covenant or Dispensational Theology because they both have serious errors. Some dispensational teachers, not all, teach that people were saved in different ways in all 7 of their supposed dispensations. That is so extremely unscriptural it makes me hot under the collar to think about it. Salvation has always and for all time been and will be by grace through faith in the shed blood of Christ. The teaching of especially Romans and Galatians make that so very, very clear. No person ever has been or could ever be justified by keeping the law or any other method other than faith in Christ. Some dispensationalists actually go so far as to teach you must be martyred during the tribulation period in order to be saved. That my friend is utter lunacy. I will say, if I was forced at gunpoint to take one side or the other I would certainly side with Dispensational Theology of a more conservative type that does not teach different forms of salvation in all 7 dispensations.
@joelwatson4083
@joelwatson4083 11 ай бұрын
Not to hurt your feelings, but please inform yourself better on CT before you propose to teach others about it. This was one of the worst presentations on the subject I've seen. For starters, 1) there are plenty of non-calvinists that teach CT; 2) ALL forms of CT (premil, amil, postmil) teach that there is a Millennium, 3) CT does NOT interpret the Bible "allegorically"; 4) The Covenant of Redemption is initiated in Genesis 3:15, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FALL. If that's soon enough for you, if not, maybe wait on God's timing. Please study up some more.
@liminator75
@liminator75 8 ай бұрын
What he did here was not an oversimplification but a caricature of reformed theology. Allegorical and replacement theology? C'mon. That's just a name calling by someone who understands nothing of reformed view.
@petergouvignon8048
@petergouvignon8048 Жыл бұрын
Chirst has fulfilled all that is written in the law Mat 5:18 ISV because I tell all of you with certainty that until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished. There are no old testament prophecies that have not been accomplished
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
There's prophesy from Daniel alone that hasn't been fulfilled yet, my friend .
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
@user-py2lu9hk4d you're right , some old testament prophesies aren't fulfilled yet . Just look at Daniel's prophesies alone .
@cecilspurlockjr.9421
@cecilspurlockjr.9421 Жыл бұрын
@user-py2lu9hk4d turn to CHRIST JESUS and be saved from your sins lest you die in them and suffer the wrath of GOD to come. Abdool .
@petergouvignon8048
@petergouvignon8048 Жыл бұрын
@@cecilspurlockjr.9421 okay wich?
@petergouvignon8048
@petergouvignon8048 Жыл бұрын
@user-py2lu9hk4d which?
@JamesBrown-fd1nv
@JamesBrown-fd1nv 5 ай бұрын
Anyone that is not a dispensational believer is simply wrong.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 Жыл бұрын
also know your subject.....dispensations....
@janwilson6763
@janwilson6763 Жыл бұрын
None of this is essential doctrine and is a waste of our time. We are to spread the Gospel not the hypothesis doctrines men have determined. It's a distraction from what Jesus has told us to be doing with our salvation.
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