Disqualified British Champion and Banned from Racing - My response

[@NickJCox]

The whole point is how can they run a Zwift race at that level, without standardising the bikes? Teething problems, but definitely not worth a ban

[@bluemystic7501]

Because these riders have built up virtual characters with virtual equipment, it's not supposed to be standardized.

[@Gianniz27]

@@bluemystic7501 Esport finals are not run under private logins. Ridicoulous.

[@TheBenchPressMan]

Gianniz27 - look at any esports competition, you play on lan, with generic accounts with all skins or upgrades unlocked, there is no ‘personal accounts’ at esports championships.

[@Evan-zj5mt]

@@Gianniz27 no, this one was run with personal accounts. The rules are what they are. They used their own bikes. He cheated to get that bike. That is cheating.

[@Guffe33]

Evan but some of the rides got the same Bike from Zwift with out ridning the 50.000 meters. So Zwift has a Big problem. Not Jefferson. Zwift and BC IS Big fools in this mess. 6 month ban is a joke. Jefferson won it fair in the final. What About Zwift that gave the Bike away for free to other contenders? That is cheating too.

[@Zvent]

The fact they're trying to make it some sort of e-sport and allowing people to use a bike that's faster then others blows my mind. All bikes should be normalised in a tournament setting..

[@Worry888]

Such a joke, every bike should be the same for an esports events

[@Striderexe]

the bikes are merely a skin no bike is faster than another.

[@asdf-y2c]

@@Striderexe Not true. If you simulate the tron bike with a constant power output and rpm its actually a tiny bit faster. Ridiculus i know but thats how it is

[@poggylp1169]

Real bikes in real competitions aren't the same either which makes perfectly sense. Every bike is customized to please personal needs in a given frame of rules and each team may use different bikes. Give e-racing cyclists a variety of bikes to choose from and everything is fine.

[@JoseMendozaPublications]

Zwift are getting to big for tehir britches. If they want to make it an official esport, they need to control everything and standardize teh equipment you use. Anyone racing without a tron bike is playing to lose.

[@anujkalmane7015]

Cam, your videos have pushed me to train everyday even on days when I don’t feel like getting out on the bike. And even though the ban is 6 months it’s not worth getting upset over or getting demotivated over. Just keep riding and show British cycling that it wasn’t just the tron bike and it was your legs that made you the national champ. Good luck!

[@strobo4unl]

This is literally the stupidest reason to be DQed. The headlines make it sound like you’re a huge cheat. You literally did nothing wrong. You put a cheat code in a video game. That’s it.

[@Turtytreeandaturd]

I’d see a Solictor. You cannot be “done” for regulations that aren’t in place.. Clear your name!!

[@craigshennan7606]

So your telling me that you have been banned for breaking a rule that wasn’t even been invented (written) at the time. That is not right Keep on going cam 👍

[@dicktheaspergeron4988]

HMRC do it all the time and people don't realise. The problems are always with those who would be king and make themselves the ruler and regulator of all....

[@Scylla94941]

He cheated in a competetive video game... What did you think would happen?

[@christopherjackson4745]

So can I just clarify that all this guy did was unfairly unlock a new type of bike?

[@Scylla94941]

@@christopherjackson4745 That's the story in a nutshell, yes.

[@asdf-y2c]

@@christopherjackson4745 More or less. The bike itself was legal and others actually used it as well during the race. Its just the way he optained it that was not "legal"

[@Arkainebe]

"Oh great another cheater feigning to be sorry, let's see what this is about" *watches video* "This guy did absolutely nothing wrong" what a joke. No idea why they don't put the racers on the same bike (or a set of bikes they can choose from) edit: I read the DC rainmaker overview of the event after posting this. He still did nothing wrong. This is desplorable.

[@cooperk4]

I actually unsubscribed back in October without giving Cam a fair shake. Now, looking back into what happened, I agree with you completely from a championship standpoint - he did nothing wrong to win the title. They wanted to make an example out of someone. I mean, kind of sucks that he got the Tron bike so easily when we all have to suffer so long for it... but it is also unfair that rich people race on bikes that less fortunate riders could never afford. Where’s the equalization there? Sorry you had to deal with this Cam.

[@MrAnonymousgentleman]

@consistency 14 ohhhh you 😂

[@MrAnonymousgentleman]

@@cooperk4 I'm pretty sure you don't have to buy specific bikes for the tour de France why need a specific e-bike?

[@cooperk4]

The_British_Bandit In the TdF, sponsors dump enough money into the riders that they can ride the top of the line bike from their sponsor company, and the difference between those bikes is negligible. The difference between the best stock bikes and the Tron bike on a sustained effort is pretty substantial, a lot of the reason is that these are sustained efforts almost like a time trial in Zwift, aerodynamics becomes so important. Side note: why are you responding to me 3 months later lol

[@MrAnonymousgentleman]

@@cooperk4 ohh fair enough I didn't quite get that from the video thanks for explaining and I didn't realise time mattered tbh

[@Bladavia]

Writing the rules AFTER the competition started... good job guys xD

[@Ouzkp]

Cameron, make an appeal to the court of arbitration of sports in switzerland to get this result over turned due to the rules being issued after the offence

[@lindzhoward7752]

! it do stress the with up put can you If

[@glennoc8585]

No offense because if the rules came after the race BC broke their roues only.

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

What Offence? Why should anyone use a Tron bike? there are many racers that don't have one. Can the rules make any sense at all? In a race they sould all have a Tron bike or they Shouldn't There down syndrome Argument makes no sense most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Shame on them for even starting all this.

[@archiewhite5787]

Harry Tzianskis The God of Speed. Come on mate, no need to bring any disabilities into this, that’s not fair. It was a wrong decision in my opinion, but no need to bring that into it.

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

Archie White i was just using the disability to compare their logic. I dont see nothing wrong with that. Next time i will say mentally challenged? What is realy the difrence??? Sould i say mentally impaired? It dont matter how i say it it goes back to Down syndrome. If you find that offensive then i dont know what to say.

[@anna-vg6vi]

I’ve never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life. Banned from cycling for cheating (if it can be classed as cheating) in a video game. Would Lewis Hamilton be banned from F1 for cheating in car simulator.

[@gamanaskumarmk]

anna 1962 not banned from cycling, banned from e-cycling(virtual cycling)

[@marshando4820]

Manas Kumar no. Actually he is banned from all cycling. Indoors and outside

[@TheBenchPressMan]

Manas Kumar - HE IS FULLY BANNED

[@parthkhaladkar9017]

Lando or Max are closer to THAT situation

[@parthkhaladkar9017]

AG Coarseman I think the FIA will uplift his ban after some “positive waves” messages

[@dannyshearer]

A slightly different angle, if you can acquire faster bikes in-game, then it's a game... And this platform shouldn't be used to decide something as serious as a Nation Champ. I'm on your side Cam 🤜🤛

[@Evan-zj5mt]

You know that he did the ant+ rides from several locations and then deleted them? YOu think that's the behaviour of an accidental cheat? Sad little fanboy.

[@normg002]

You can unlock faster bikes in real life too. You just need cash to unlock them.

[@Evan-zj5mt]

@@normg002 That's true, but that isn't against the terms of service; neither is it a breach of BC rules. I don't understand this fanboy attitude. You think everyone should just be able to make up their own rules?

[@normg002]

@@Evan-zj5mt My comment was directed at Danny mate. I'm absolutely not a fan boy, but I disagree with Danny's comment that zwift shouldn't be used as a competition, because bikes with different properties or characteristics are available. I do agree the OP of the video was potentially dishonest, and rules are rules as far as I'm concerned.

[@marcelleclerc690]

Yeah, just like for video game competitions players should be using specific game clients that are not their personal client. I thought it was the case, now that this happened to Cam I truly think that the only one to be blamed in the organisation.

[@Isaillasers173114]

This is the height of actual bullshit, banned from proper road racing for getting a virtual bike a bit early in a video game. Such a joke, back by April anyway, good luck man

[@iammars142]

Pure stupidity. All competitors should just be given unlocked accounts by Zwift. What other eSport requires athletes to use their personal accounts?

[@iammars142]

@Zen Paul Zwift should've given all competitors equal footing. Bike difference should've never been a consideration.

[@GurkenCommander]

@AG Coarseman what? it is a video game, no way around that.

[@antidote8362]

AG Coarseman it is a video game. The definition is: a game played by electronically manipulating images produced by a computer program on a monitor or other display.

[@mikenaus]

Did they measure your avatar's sock height?

[@Cavancola1]

Lmao

[@peterlaskiewicz8252]

Pretty goofy to get disqualified for "cheating" to get a bike, prior to the race. It's not like you cheated during the race. To make it even they should just have everyone used a standard "race bike".

[@liamwhyte9001]

Don't worry mate, it's a game afterall. If you had taken performance enhancing drugs in a real world race then it's a different matter..

[@joshtipton7417]

I think the claim was that he got an unfair advantage since he used the faster bike in the race which he got against the rules. I don't think it's as clearly wrong as lying about your weight but I can see how the second place rider would be pissed. What I wonder is if the Tron bike gave enough of an advantage to win, or if Cam still would have won with a regular bike. If not, the whole thing is a bit silly but if so people could make some legit complaints.

[@alexbeldon3199]

Peter Laskiewicz I get your point about everyone using the same bike but it’s not realistic. In a race like the World Champs, not everyone’s on the same bike. Some bikes are quicker uphills and some are quicker on the flat so if everyone was to use the same bike it wouldn’t be fun

[@joshtipton7417]

@@alexbeldon3199 I think the comparison with the World Champs isn't completely the same thing, since in real road racing it would be pretty impractical to put everyone on the same bike but this is a video game. There's no reason why for the national champs they couldn't unlock all the bikes or at least put everyone on the same basic bike. Hacking the game to get the fancy Tron bike for yourself isn't really a problem and I don't blame Cam for that, that's just having fun. But in a competition like nationals I would be pissed if I had a slow bike and lost to someone who hacked their way to a faster bike. This isn't the real world, there's no reason why everyone can't ride equally fast bikes and why 'unfair advantages' like this are a thing. Much less a problem with what Cam did and mostly an issue with the format of the race (among all the other stuff he pointed out with the weigh-ins).

[@Spider-zx6dm]

The crazy part is if you have seen the race, most of the rider was riding the Tron bike.

[@timothydevenport2878]

Hold up, so the story is: 1) Cam "cheated/simmed/whatever" to unlock a bike in the game. 2) Used that bike in the National Champs and won, under his own power. What specifically has been banned for? Surely this would all be solved if all the qualifiers unlocked a special bike to use in the champs and afterwards as a badge of honour?

[@alk5895]

Certainly all race bikes should be standardized, maybe remove the power ups since they seem to be random for races like this. Hard to argue though against their ruling of obtaining a bike through an ANT+ simulator, that is cheating. They probably decided to use it to set a precedent on the biggest stage. Unfortunate though, the dude has got the power. I think having different bikes and power ups is a bit ridiculous if there's going to be any prize money or anything involved.

[@solowingpixy8190]

Im confused the bikes should be standardised.

[@joshbiers121]

@@alk5895 I guess to me its like exploiting in gta to get a hypercar. I could see it being different if the timing made it obvious that his intentions were malicious. That being said I would have to agree with everyone else who says that everyone should be on a level playing ground and the bikes should be standardized.

[@lmaoroflcopter]

He did something. Later that thing becomes outlawed. He then competed using his ill-gotten gains. I can see why they ruled why they did (especially on a role model view as he effectively cheated the game to get the Tron bike, that's not stand up role model behaviour) but I'm bloody perplexed as to why the performance of the bikes were not all the same. Skins are surely no different to sponsor logos on a frame. Tournament bikes should all have the same damn performance characteristics otherwise you may as well allow for custom trainer setups.

[@him1517]

@@alk5895 thing is that was a rule AFTER he did it so it doesn’t make sense he was penalized for.

[@grahamdorr]

No drug testing, get the EPO out and smash all the wins

[@timoturner1193]

6ix9ine: "I KNOW THAT CYCLING CAM GOT THE TRON BIKE ILLEGALLY"

[@Cyclingwithfree]

Tim James 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tomgarner5965]

this should be top comment

[@kubamaecki8398]

☝️ I was legit thinking you got banned because of doping, this is a joke in a comparison. Good reaction, hopefully you'll be alright. Keep going strong, I will be along for the ride watching on YT.

[@xenonram]

I was legit thinking that he was banned because an e-sports regulatory body banned him from playing the game. Come to find out it is another loser British agency that, for some reason has oversight over a videogame, that is supposed to oversee actual bike racing, has lumped video game rules (that weren't actually rules) into actual bike racing. Every day I hear about some UK authoritarian agency that is completely overstepping its bounds. This isn't as bad as the stories of the UK gov't stripping their citizens of their rights, but almost as absurd.

[@SunDodger]

Surely the point of e-sports is the skill of the competitor. This DQ and ban is total bollocks.

[@dominiclossberg6017]

the whole race should be every rider on the same bike for a level playing field

[@dawnwhaley332]

Hi Cameron, both my late husband and I enjoyed watching your youtube channel. It's easy to say keep your chin up, but please do, keep riding, training and racing. Unfortunately just as you commented about riders faking their weight, this kind of thing will always happen with this type of racing. I don't think what you did requires any type of punishment, its not like you took EPO, or did blood doping. Ridiculous that they broke their own rules and stuck you with an insignificant technicality. When my husband passed away unexpectedly June 27, 2019 I took his bike and had it adjusted to fit me, and raced a very technical 6 day mountain bike stage race for him, which I was not trained to do and completed it. You can get through more than you are capable of. Keep your chin up and thanks for your vlogs!

[@brendavane9148]

Dawn Whaley . Best wishes to you, congratulations on your achievement and tribute to your beloved.

[@rungeon83]

You are amazing, your husband would have been amazed and proud. i know i would! Sorry for your loss x

[@shawnbreaux1532]

So what you're telling me is that they made a rule and retroactively disciplined you. Pretty sure that's illegal.

[@Scylla94941]

Cheating is against Zwift's TOS. Case closed.

[@shawnbreaux1532]

@@Scylla94941 retroactively applying rules to competitors is a violation of law. Case closed.

[@Scylla94941]

@@shawnbreaux1532 Cheating has always been against the rules and they can only apply these rules once they know about the violations.

[@shawnbreaux1532]

@@Scylla94941 it wasn't against the rules at the time of the competition. The rule didn't exist until AFTER camron won the race. If it existed before cameron won the race, then it would be cheating.

[@Scylla94941]

@@shawnbreaux1532 I don't know how familiar you are with video games but a title of this size comes with a license agreement which prohibits cheating from day one. There is no way in hell that that rule didn't exist until last year, considering that Zwift has been out for over 5 years. I think you and some other people confuse the rules of the race with Zwift's terms of service agreement. They don't have to prohibit cheating for the race specifically if cheating is already against Zwift's rules.

[@apv1]

That’s really silly, bc are hypocrites and you have a strong leg to stand on. Going forward at eraces , all bikes should be an unlocked and every rider should be given free choice. Otherwise all riders get the same bike.

[@bikeboy5312]

Exactly

[@mattkuch9657]

E-cycling should take inspiration from already established e-sports like csgo, dota, LOL on rules/regulations and how to counter cheaters.

[@kiely4561]

British cycling up in arms over someone not playing by the rules...oh the irony

[@Falkirion]

@@kiely4561 they're just pissed they didn't get to colonize it first...

[@Maverick5588]

100% agreed

[@IanB17]

You get banned from the road for “cheating” on Zwift? BC need to get a grip.

[@carrotsandrunning]

This is going to hurt zwift even more than their stupid terms and conditions change did.

[@bikeboy5312]

They have got a grip, for E- doping

[@IanB17]

@@bikeboy5312 That's the point though he wasn't e-doping. Fair enough he "cheated" to get the Tron bike (which isn't even the fastest bike on Zwift BTW) & he's held his hands up to that but a ban on his road licence for that? Not for me. A ban to race on Zwift or DQ from next years championship yeah but to ban him from racing on the road is laughable IMHO.

[@mrnobody9821]

It has real world implications with sponsorships and money so why shouldn’t he banned? Its fraud essentially, and people who commit online fraud for example go to real world prison (not saying he should go to prison)

[@IanB17]

Mr Nobody Yeah I get that but to me there should be a separation between online & real life. I think it’s harsh to ban him from the road when he’s “cheated” online. Would the UCI ban someone from the road if a World Tour pro did the same? If you get banned on the road you could still race on Zwift but if you “e cheat” you can’t race BC races on the road?

[@Ydegaard]

What about real road cyclists then? Is it also considered cheating if they get a free bike instead of working hard to buy it in a shop?

[@johnnyhanel]

thats a good point. who cares how he got the "fast" bike??? do we care in real life how someone got their fast bike?

[@ProfessorSteez]

This is 1000 IQ. Chapeau, British Cycling needs to see this.

[@onlymeok]

Waiting with bated breath for Ben Swift to get banned and stripped of his titles for a traffic violation on his childhood paper round.

[@Ydegaard]

Stephen Fairchild Yeah, i even heard his first bike was a birthday present from his parents. Ridicolous how BC can just let something like that go unpunished

[@raceace]

The retroactivity of the rule and it's subsequent use is pretty much your best bet. Never looks good for an organisation to preach don't break the rules while breaking a fundamental convention of natural justice.

[@26DNG]

Chapeau young man, you have handled yourself with great dignity addressing this. Life has taught me that things really do happen for a reason, use this experience to drive you on. It will be hard to see now but good will come from this.

[@steviegriffin3513]

What a load of bollix. Sanctioned for breaking a rule that didn't exist yet. And banned from the road because of a video game. Good job BC.

[@jackcourtney1690]

What a joke getting banned for 6 months :( outrageous! He should be banned from Zwift races not road, track or circuit races. This will effect his cycling career now well done 😡

[@glennoc8585]

This must be an october fools joke.

[@garyquirke7575]

Like getting a driving ban for speeding in Mario Kart 🙄

[@him1517]

@@garyquirke7575 exactly but let’s take that a bit further; imagine getting banned for using a character that everyone already had because you unlocked it differently

[@ianlawrence4256]

How can you be punished for breaking rules when the rules weren't yet in place.

[@mikeprytherch8875]

I also have asked... what rule has be broken, I've read the eRace rules and it does not mention you can only ride bikes you have won

[@andrejslovenija]

Exactly, he should talk to some lawyer I believe he did not brake any rules...

[@bikeboy5312]

@@mikeprytherch8875 its not about the bike, its not about the rules, its about what's right and wrong

[@bikeboy5312]

@@andrejslovenija "brake" any rules nice pun

[@mitchellsteindler]

@@bikeboy5312 no it's not. That's not how any of this works. But British cycling does as they please.

[@Skw-lincs]

Takes a man to admit his mistakes and I agree with others, e-racing shouldn't roll over into your real world racing, that's BS. You clearly put in the hard work regardless.

[@jakobjas4212]

Wasn't even a mistake in my opinion. There were no rules against it at the time. For something as prestigious as a national championship they should have had standardised bikes anyway.

[@Y1AN1]

Mate if your confidential info has been leaked by British cycling I’d hazard a guess that it equates to a breach of the GDPR and your right to have your personal information protected.

[@2trekkertrek]

I forgive you for doing nothing wrong. I mean cmon, breaking rules that weren't even written yet?

[@Evan-zj5mt]

That is a lie. Read DC rainmakers account of what happened for an honest and complete assessment. This video is one huge airbrushing of what really happened.

[@Scylla94941]

He violated Zwift's TOS by cheating.

[@NielsHeldens]

UCI: *DQ’s Eekhoff* BC: oh you thought that was savage, watch this

[@johnridley6712]

Niels Heldens savage but fair

[@Skw-lincs]

Right! They just HAD to one-up it.

[@johnridley6712]

Simon Williams I mean he did cheat... and e-cycling is new it needs strict rules at its start

[@BuexxTM]

@@johnridley6712 He did not cheat at the nationals. The advantage the tron bike gives you (against the few people that do not have it at this stage of racing) is so minimal...The guys that did not go for breakfast (I remember CP or CJ was talking about it back then) at the nationals and therefore had a lower weight set for all of their races had a far superior advantage.

[@adamsellick8116]

@@johnridley6712 obviously didn't listen to what he has stated in the video, there were no rules too follow so he did nothing wrong.

[@tys2461]

Hey Cam, my take on it for whatever it's worth is you were being a kid playing video games.... Then British Cycling decided to make it a competition with rules and you abided by them. If they really cared about the bikes they should've put everyone on the same bike in the game and actually weighed in people accordingly.

[@neildoering7969]

You know in regular road racing the bikes undergo as much rigor as the racer does. I completely agree with your statement that as the race organizers they should have taken the responsibility to put everyone on the same bike and all of this would be avoided.

[@doma9584]

Why weren't all unlocks available to all the racers in the finals?

[@Buckwheatrider]

Yeah, equality for ever starter!

[@ianrobins5501]

that was my thought during the whole series

[@waynosfotos]

Because someone didn’t write the rules that way......

[@craigjohnson5675]

Fair play to you Cameron, took courage to do that video. One year has past and look were you are and what you’ve achieved, hats off to you for being so resilient. Alll the best mate.

[@cccaroccio]

you're writing your story. Two options, Cam: keep at it and prove yourself 10 times over or give up and hit a wall.

[@Hambini]

Rules exist to be interpreted. When you got your ANT+ app, there were no rules... I'd go and find someone who can give British Cycling a good reaming.

[@pantster9855]

I hadn't noticed it during the videos at the time but how the hell did they do an e-racing championships and not put everyone on the same bike??? I think lack of thought from organisers there

[@greggderrick398]

Cameron I just watched your latest video and I wanted to let you know I'm much older than you (60) and to say I've never made a mistake would be a bold face lie. I've been watching your videos from the very beginning when you started and they have provided me with a lot of entertainment and inspiration. I'm sure you have learned that there are no short cuts in life. Also when this short cut for the Tron bike was offered to you, you knew it was wrong. Life lessons are always hard and like my son and daughter I feel badly for you but know you will learn from this and be stronger when you have to face these kinds of issues in the future. I am still one of your biggest fans and my offer to come visit us in Niagara on the Lake, Niagara Falls, Canada still stands. Now serve your ban and come back stronger my friend!!!

[@goldenretriever6261]

Come up to Collingwood.

[@ajjerseyqueen6459]

Gregg Derrick well said, I hadn’t even read your comment and I wrote something similar; life experiences and age does bring something good to the table I’m finding 😬😬😬🤗🤗💪🏼😃😃😃😎😎🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@greggderrick398]

AJ Jersey QUEEN 👍😊

[@cancellara1979]

Keep your chin up Cameron. All things in perspective. Family, loved and health are what's important, don't get despondent. You will use this as extra motivation for next year.

[@ralphmeertens4834]

I think it's unfair decision, it is a strange fact that they let you choose a bike, if they want to have a fair race, they should have forced everyone to use the same bikes/tires etc. When looking into the e-sports segments, you often see that people are getting accounts when they are in the finals, they dont use their own accounts. In my opinion as a game developer I would just have opened up every item ingame to be used, or just open up 1. So then it's fair. I also dont think that "cheating" in zwift should be punished by a cyling organisation. its just some game settings, and most likely the other guys were using the same setup bikes. its a poor decision from a organisation who has no expierence in hosting a e tournament. The rules should have been there before, how should you know. Anyways Cameron, I started zwifting because of your videos, you put a lot of effort into it and its great to see the enthusiasm your racing with. And I agreee, just fight the decision it feels very strange to me, for me your still the winner

[@travisevans4731]

Time to start a podcast and contact NBC😂 All jokes aside, you're a top bloke doing nothing but good things for cycling. This whole situation is ridiculous. British cycling is a mess and has been for a long time. Keep your head up and keep doing what you're doing man.

[@MotoLopez1k]

I don’t feel disappointed! You’re awesome! Keep going and training because you will have many other opportunities. Never give up, never surrender!

[@Matt-sn2ub]

I think I speak for everyone.... if what you said is 100% the truth that is absolute BS.

[@DrJRMCFC]

Matty actually you don’t

[@Matt-sn2ub]

@@DrJRMCFC sorry. All the non fucking morons ***

[@4879daniel]

I think I speak for everyone when I say Cameron Jeffers = the British Lance Armstrong.

[@pgsarms]

Mr B Shut the fuck up

[@domestique3954]

definitely a appeal to the CAS in switzerland! this new sport has new regulations.Some of them need to be overviewed 🤙

[@mirage2nr771]

Whatever has happened, good luck mate, keep on living your dream, it will be temporary, and as you said, you inspired so many of us on various levels, and that's what drives you! 👌 Pretty sure Mon will support you as well ❤

[@joepvankeulen9414]

Don't you have a decent case about them disqualifying you on a rule made long after you broke said rule

[@waynosfotos]

Joep Van keulen this doesn’t work, as he could of chose a different bike, and familiarised himself with the rule. So although it seems unfair, he did obtain the bike inappropriately, even if such a rule didn’t exist when he did it.

[@joepvankeulen9414]

@@waynosfotos yeah ok, so although obtaining it didnt automatically DQ him, using it did

[@WHAT_1400]

They offered Ed Laverack a free tron bike unlock for the national champions according to him on his youtube channel. I forget which video he said it in

[@WHAT_1400]

He turned it down by the way. The point is that they offered it to him

[@TheChefology]

Its just ridiculous. If they want to regulate everything they should have set you all on the same bike. I mean WTF?

[@MrTripsJ]

TheChefology lmao common sense

[@Evan-zj5mt]

@@MrTripsJ yea, it's so obvious that if the rules were totally different he wouldn't have cheated. What the actual fuck.

[@samuelhodges7593]

You’ve been shafted. Your community loves you mate - keep it up and keep your head held high. You inspire so many!

[@steva_nolimits]

One thing i wanna say is that They wanted you to get banned, so they found a way . Keep up the Great work 👍

[@arnoldszarins3200]

Cameron, I hope everything will work out in the future just fine.In my opinion the ban was not necessary. Because you got the tron bike a little bit earlier, its a bit silly. Looking to future videos! Keep the positive vibe and keep doing what ya doing!

[@bartvanlaan2641]

This is a joke! I thought you had some EPO or some shit 🤣. Just keep going bro!! Your videos also inspired me to start racing!

[@waynosfotos]

Bart-Jan van der Laan agreed, and drug bans are not necessarily that much longer, he “may” of broke the rules, but i do feel the punishment was extreme due to the circumstances. If it didn’t have any significant effect on the results, on the day. And of course everyone knew what bike he was riding, it was just obtained via a hack. So the hack itself was the reason for the investigation and suspension , not riding that particular bike.

[@jakubkozie3171]

100% supporting you 💪

[@zeekryder7735]

Jakub Kozieł agree.

[@2506DR]

Thank you for sharing your side . This does seem a little harsh being the first one and will have teething issues with rules and fairness allowing all riders access to the full range of bikes, wheels, etc makes good sense keep training mate your time will come

[@Danniyoung11]

Keep your head up Cam. You’re a great role model in the UK cycling scene. You know how much of an impact you’ve had on so many people and you’ll continue to have that positive impact through your videos. A harsh decision in my opinion from British Cycling but glad you’re getting on with it.

[@Quentijn]

So, do we want a Champ with legit watts and a questionable obtained bike; or a Champ that has questionable watts and a legit obtained bike?

[@PhillPriceUK]

Quentijn Mulleneers neither 🤔

[@Kashimax]

Do we really need this Championship at all...

[@ryans-18]

Shouldn't they just have set everyone to the same bike? And let the watts and tactics play the game?

[@waynosfotos]

Your missing the point, the rules was broken, yes it maybe a stupid rule, but it applies to everyone. What i think is outrageous is the ban and disqualification. I mean people who have taken epo or inhalers, get this kind of ban... this is not in the same league, but has been given the same punishment.

[@Quentijn]

I put this situation on the same level as someone who became a celebrity and then gets publicly shamed over something edgy they tweeted as a kid.. The tweet had nothing to do with anything, it didn't give an aid/advantage, yet one organization will make it out to be.. It's just sad to see this happen. When are they going to dig as deep for the other finalists? I'm sure every single one of them have had some questionable efforts on Zwift. Not that I am saying they should be DQd for it. I'm just trying to say; if you dig long enough on anyone, you'll find something to justify whatever you want justified.

[@alfyoung9299]

Cam, you will find as you go through life that large organisations like BC always hide behind their own rules and failures. This decision by them is obviously wrong . It is essential that you see that they are just bullies. You must just take a deep breath and not tie yourself in knots over this. Just keep doing what you are currently achieving. Don't let it get you down.

[@carrotsandrunning]

It's early days for e-racing and you've got burned by stupid regulations that can't keep up. Who cares how you got the Tron bike, they should just give everyone it for sanctioned races. I watch your channel because you're a cool dude. Keep making videos and I'll keep watching and giving them thumbs up. Also, don't let this stop you making zwift vids, that'd be a real shame. Ride on !

[@waynosfotos]

Rob Pearce Agreed, this is a whole new platform and even the rule makers can get it wrong, I see this a sticky bottle rule. Yes he broke the rules and should of read the conditions, but then I do think the regulating body should of had a simplified rule book to get everyone up to speed, as it is a whole new platform. For the circumstances I do feel the punishment was severe. True dopers in real cycling can get six months, and I don’t see this being in the same league. Maybe due to his previous close encounter with BC, they saw it as a second breach and raised the penalty.

[@andygiff07]

Hey Cam, I'm an occasional viewer and first off kudos for apologising on the off a genuine and heart felt apology and account of the situation. I agree fully with Nick the rules should be fully defined and adhered to by the governing bodies if this is to be a recognised and sanctioned race then standardisation of bikes in parallel to the power meter calibration is paramount and disappointing you were not taken up on you offer to help improve and bridge the visible gaps. I truly hope you can park the disappointment and can keep the love of an evident passion and inspirational outlet - Makes me glad for being old skool and suffering alone in my pain cave on the wattbike

[@Jan-Velske]

I killed a guy. What are you sitting for? Cameron: ...

[@Jon-114]

That charge against you is totally LUDICROUS!

[@tonystrange7224]

In my view BC have lost the plot. You are one of the most inspirational people I have known. Banned for breaking rules that didn’t exist. No point arguing with BC Cam, do the pathetic ban and come back stronger with a point to prove. In the meantime go escape and do your backpacking ride through France. We’ll still be watching you vlogs pal. Chin up mate

[@ianhutchinson970]

Gutted for you Cam. Hope you don't let this prevent you from competing in the future.

[@cruisersolu]

Cam, sorry to watch this video. I have been Zwifting for now 4 years during the winter months here in the USA. (I'm 54) I loved the Tron bike from day one and worked hard to achieve the climbing necessary to get the bike last winter. However, I was denied the bike due o the fact that I had not clicked the button to enter the Mt Everest Challenge. This needs to be done in order to meet the "goal" of 50,000 meter. I had slightly more on a particular day last winter and went to get the bike and it was not available. I emailed the team at Zwift and they looked into my request. They were very good with communication with several emails asking questions. BUT, they would not release the bike to me due to the fact they I had not taken the challenge way back when I started. I was pretty pissed to say the least. I would have loved to have had that bike. I really worked hard on it climbing each time I rode and counting the vert as I went along, for 3 years. So I write only to say I am someone who LOVES your channel and will continue to watch. I love Zwift and have encouraged MANY fellow cyclists and runners to join. I wish they would allow me to have that Tron bike, but rules are rules as "they" say. My intentions from day one was to ride enough in order to earn the Tron bike. I think I earned it because the vert says I did. But, I did not enter the Challenge. Part of me understands and part of me says--wait a minute doesn't Zwift see I have a legitimate argument? Hang in there Cam.

[@D-enson]

Every cyclist would love to be like Lance, have his results and everything he had. You did it cam, you're the E-Lance. Hope you come back better in 2020.

[@sj6656]

Don't you dare give that jersey back!

[@ice198898]

The penalty is a joke. In all Zeigt races (competition) every rider should have the same ingame equipment. 6 month ban for that??? Wtf

[@jamesfox551]

Gob smacked mate, bullshit this like. Since you did the Klondike last year I’ve been watching your videos. Appreciate what your doing, most genuine person I’ve never met. Your still the champ. Bounce back stronger 💪🏼

[@Tokoloshe1664]

All this has done is me respecting you more as a person for making a public apology. An apology that in my opinion was not required in the first place. You are a dying breed indeed mate. Chin up!

[@paulfletcher8795]

Good honest evaluation of the situation Cam. No one should have an unfair advantage in a competition however clear to see how many flaws there were in BC’s rules (or lack of them until April!) and the way they have handled this is ‘shoddy’ at best. Take the penalty, dust yourself off and move forward stronger & wiser. As for teams, friends & viewers in the future - this is a time when you will find out who your true friends are and from reading some of the message you have got lots of them on here - including me mate. Onwards & upwards. 👍💪🚴🏼‍♂️

[@onlymeok]

Looks like my BC Ride membership is going to lapse.

[@teamdgr]

Stephen Fairchild Yes that makes two of us 18 year gold membership ! I’m feeling mugged as well!

[@stinkerseb595]

And what about the people who day in day out promote our sport at the BC, the team who run events and work behind the scenes, this kind of rhetoric helps nobody!

[@TheBenchPressMan]

Steve Cool - it’s called a sending a message, this is unfair.

[@stinkerseb595]

TheBenchPressMan And that’s my point, penalise many who have nothing to do with this!

[@jannesmoss1133]

Thats so sad...it is literally uneccessary. Do they not have any other things to do then this shit?

[@santibergallo]

Yes, they do. For instance NOT prepare the commisaires for the U23 men Timetrial world championships (blame they share with the UCI) I do love Britain, but this year world championships did let me down.

[@AlexanderChatzakis]

I agree with Jannes, this is very pitiful in so many ways. There is exactly zero winners in this sad story. Nobody wanted this to happen. Not even the eventual winner James Phillips likes this...

[@williamrainford4614]

Come ride in the USA buddy. Hook up with VC Tyler Pearce and jump on his squad for a season.

[@felixjackson2670]

I remember a brilliant quote from an ex-pro rider in his biography.” I’ve forgotten more about cycling than British Cycling will ever know”. Pretty much sums them up,certainly in this instance. I truly hope you can pick yourself up,gradually let go of the anger and sense of unfairness you must be feeling right now. Then continue a stronger human.

[@matthewavignonpetersen5893]

You have and you will continue to inspire a great number of us. This seems to be a judgement based on obscure technicalities and blown out of proportion. Please do continue to make videos, and thank you! Hang in there, sir. Read all of these comments, you have a lot of people behind you.

[@simeonjupp974]

Am doubling my Patreon contribution today. Stay strong Cam, you’re an inspiration.

[@simeonjupp974]

Done. Fight the fight

[@flava1981]

😅😅top trolling 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@C.Medina]

Young Gamora: "Did you do it?" Cam: "yes" Young Gamora: "what did it cost?" Cam: "Everything"

[@iz288]

You didn’t do it knowing it on purpose and everyone needs a second chance you are and amazing rider and British cycling are lucky to have you so keep you spirits up keep training during your band and come back stronger and show them you stuff 👍

[@sixfeatsmall05]

He didn't know that not riding the required 50k meters to get the bike was cheating? It seems that magically getting a bike that takes other riders months to get is a pretty obvious cheat?

[@philnorthcott2844]

Having had the luck to meet you and the rest of the St Piran lads please be assured you are a fantastic ambassador for cycling and your team. Sorry you had had to experience this side of competitive sport. Good luck for next year and look forwards to seeing you doing what you do so well.

[@ivanduranperez8115]

All my support. I've watched only three of your videos and I can tell that you are an amazing person. Keep on doing what you are if you truly enjoy it because encouraging people to exercise is one of the best things you can do as an influencer.

[@simonmansfield6405]

Sometimes I’ve found you a little too cocky for my liking, but in this video you have handled yourself like a true champ. Chapeau.

[@khbrown69]

Well done for taking responsibility for what you did and how you've handled this. Good luck moving forward!

[@jaspersmit13]

What someone does in a game, should not affect stuff in the real world, absolute bs

[@rkan2]

Because there can often be monetary gain in game, cheating should still be illegal, of course with the punishment depending on potential or achieved gains...

[@garypearson9107]

Cam I never comment on your videos but massively enjoy following your journey. Watching your videos helps me get out on the bike more and enjoy my cycling, your a top guy mate, and you will see the light at the end of the tunnel 👍

[@glynlewis1888]

Hi Cameron, after reading all the comments I have to agree with them all. I love watching your videos, these along with getting out on the bike have got me through some dark times. So stay positive and motivated, move on have a great road race season in 2020. I'll continue to follow your journey, take care.

[@w.i.l.dyoutube4166]

Get yourself a lawyer. BC sound like they’re off theirs heads

[@kye3k1]

Solicitor = UK lawyer

[@trin08201]

Cam, Does the Tron bike give any advantage?

[@jamesvaughan7274]

Yes. For the same power it goes faster.

[@peterwilson1831]

its marginal at best over some of the other top bikes.

[@ajjerseyqueen6459]

Minimal, tron just looks cool; took me forever to get it but with that being said, even with the Tron bike I’d never be as good strong as Cam lol 😂 all bs!

[@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed]

If it does make you faster why allow it at all if others cant use it????? Hi Queen!

[@run_cycle_life4005]

Surely everyone should have to use the same bike, that would make good sense, right? Or at least all bike options should be available to everyone as per real life racing.

[@cavapoule]

I've did a lot of Zwift because of you. Still following you and have fun looking at your training. Courage !

[@andrewhughes55]

Chin up cam ,keep pushing on ,I’m 54 and love the vids and you have inspired me to get back on the bike and I’m loving it 👍🏻🚲

[@markdowning8045]

I got your back mate. Chin up. Train hard. Come back stronger. 💪

[@sugarrayhatton]

It’s rubbish cam. A joke. Can you race under Cycling Ireland?

[@sugarrayhatton]

Desception maybe so but it would at least allow him to race when banned

[@ewanwarren5874]

Desception and who are you then don

[@ewanwarren5874]

Desception yeah Ik I’m a member and it wasn’t that bad, and they provide decent opportunities if you race on the national team

[@LEEGOSLEARNERS]

To me it sounds like goalposts have been moved, damn harsh to give you a ban, still subscribed bud, keep it up 💪🏻

[@samblackmon97]

Hopefully this will catch the attention of BC for future eRacing events. The eRacing platform is only going to grow from here, so there really needs to be concrete standardization. There may need to be a completely separate interface/software that is strictly for sanctioned racing that will remove the grey areas, such as bikes, trainers, HR monitors etc. If a rider’s privilege to participate in races that aren’t even on the eRacing platform can be jeopardized, the governing body NEEDS to provide concrete regulations and ABIDE by them. Cameron, this situation is really unfortunate, and you seem to be the victim of a system that has not properly prepared for the introduction of the eRacing platform. Chapeau for your humility amidst a frustrating situation that is beyond your control. Keep up the hard work!

[@duffman182]

You're a great role model Cam and your punishment is in my opinion very unfair. You're an inspiration to my 11 year old who is just getting into cycling and Zwift. Keep the faith and we hope to see you competing again soon.

[@13rcom23]

He should of not been disqualified, total nonsense.

[@kubakuba7786]

Shadow should’ve *

[@d314159]

Cam you are an inspiration; British Cycling certainly isn't!

[@toddsapio2661]

This really is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard... Good job in your response. Taking ownership despite the fact that it wasn’t actually even a rule yet. And if they wanted to make it a rule they should have verified all 10 qualifiers.

[@patoc2857]

Apologies if this is a stupid question by am I right in saying that the tron bike didnt give any advantage other than estethics and that the diciplinary action was unrelated to the champs/related to an older offence to get/unlock the bike?

[@MrOeli96]

Is this bike purely cosmetical or does it have some advantages? Anyway, it's crazy that they don't regulate which bike riders can ride/ choose from. And last but not least. Cameron, you've been a role model for me! Love your vids, strava rides and zwift races. Inspiring me and tons of other riders to push yourself harder, make longer rides, set KOM's or personal bests. You made cycling way more fun for me and I want to thank you for that. Keep it up man!