Dissecting 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - First Tuesday Lecture

[@Vergoso_42]

It’s hard to find actual 9/11 conspiracy theories so watching debunking videos is a good way to see what the conspiracies are

[@mikero6225]

You came to the wrong place. This is a dissecting video, not a debunking video

[@siskothekid4620]

@@mikero6225what is the purpose exactly of “dissecting” them then?

[@davidyurman2255]

if he doesn't talk about that 1 green thermite charge that didn't go off he's not disecesting them, or if the building was hot enough to burn bulding nearby and not the ppls who did its passports on the ground then he also not dissecting them.

[@animula6908]

I had to do a search for loose change on a browser and hunt around. They posit the government literally planted all kinds of dynamite in buildings. They point to the fact the hijackers weren’t even holy acting. Which would have surprised me since no godfearing person would do this. The guy who made that documentary tries to distance himself from it now without exactly recanting. Apparently it casts a shadow over his current money-making schemes. I remember old timers warning me how the conspiracy theories would come because they’d watched it happen with the Holocaust and president Kennedy. I almost think it’s a mass trauma processing phenomenon. These dramatic events in public life seem to affect people to need them to be part of something bigger. The normal evil of the world seems to small to explain things that affected you so deeply. People so caught up in arguing with it that it fails to get examined as the interesting form of cope that it really is.

[@Larry26-f1w]

@@mikero6225you came to the usual place but brought your lame excuses and ran like a rat Planter

[@jasonmoss6891]

Q and A regardless of the topic please learn this. Whoever has the mic should repeat the question so the answer means more as those who are not there can not hear the question. There should be no argument about that.

[@jubeanie2730]

I always have the same complaint. How dumb can they be? Disgusting.

[@johnnycharisma162]

The entire presentation was amateurish.

[@jessiehogue.]

@@johnnycharisma162 Woah, woah, woah there. There were animal pictures every now and then! That has to count for something.

[@pearcat08]

​@@jubeanie2730I mean, I get that it is irritating, but disgust? It's just an oversight, not an intelligence issue, and doesn't seem worth working yourself up to the point of feeling disgusted. Like, there are way worse, more important things in the world to feel so strongly about, you know?

[@bobs8005]

@@pearcat08they have lots of first world problems

[@danielevans8728]

The sad thing is most people are more comfortable feeling certain with a lie than being uncertain seeling truth.

[@dikranovichk5889]

Yeah, but when you reference truth without the article, the, it begs the questions, whose truth are you talking about? His truth, your truth, their truth? Her truth?

[@tonyprice2256]

@@dikranovichk5889 There is only one real truth. Things either happened exactly as the 'government' and mainstream media said they did, or they did not. So it becomes a simple yes or no question. The answer i believe to be true is no. The events of 9/11 did not happen exactly as described in the 'official story'. The term 'conspiracy theory' has only been around since the early 1960s. It never existed before that, and was never used before that time period. That term was invented by the CIA soon after the murder of former US President JFK. It was used as a weapon to discredit anybody who did not believe the 'official story' of the murder of the president at that time and ever since. But more recently the findings of the old Warren Commission that created the 'official story' have been proven to be false. There was no 'magic bullet' fired by Lee Harvey Oswald that killed JFK. He was murdered by members of the CIA. Of course, now that it has been almost 60 years to the day since that murder, no one will or can be held accountable for that crime. How convenient, right? Anyway, it appears that the 'conspiracy theorists' were right all along regarding the murder of JFK. How many others could they have been right about? My guess is pretty much all of them, including the crimes that happened back on 9/11 2001. Sadly, the criminals behind that will never be held accountable either. Those that control the 'governments' are the very worst ultra wealthy criminals on the planet, and they are able to do anything they want as they operate well above all 'laws' made by man. The 'laws' have only been put into place to keep the common man and woman in check. They apply to the masses, but not to those at the very top of the economic food chain that control 'governments' and rule the world. That is the reality of the world we live in.

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@tonyprice2256 "The term 'conspiracy theory' has only been around since the early 1960s. It never existed before that, and was never used before that time period.." Fun fact: the first time the term "conspiracy theory" was used is uncertain, but it's at LEAST as far back as 1863. Strangely, there was neither a CIA nor a JFK at the time. So, I guess your "fun fact" was pure nonsense. Imagine that. "and the mainstream media " Interestingly, there was no such thing as a nebulous "Mainstream media" at the time. There was just "the media". Imagine that, your cool buzz-word was nonsense. Poor you. "And recently, it has been proven that the Warren Commission got it wrong in that there was no 'magic bullet' fired by Lee Harvey Oswald that killed the president" Recently, it hasn't been proven anything at all. See, making claims isn't proof. It's just someone saying something. Proof requires, well, proof. Amazingly, you and your house god didn't have any. Another fun fact: copy-pasting the same nonsense again and again only mean you know you have nothing.

[@braulioreynoso8139]

​@@dikranovichk5889 I 100% agree. Most closed minded people think what they believe is the truth

[@autdelux]

its easier to fool ppl then convince them they are beeing fooled

[@solstarling953]

This lecture is a testament to why university is a waste of time and money

[@MarkTheCat]

It’s not really.

[@babyyoda3694]

I liked it. Although I disagreed with the presenter, I did get the sense that he'd be open to calm, polite conversations about all things related to 9/11. Not like YT....where we love to argue.... :)

[@dikranovichk5889]

The “truther” can’t handle the truth. Any conversation turns into a bait and switch pivot. Or, you’re just talking to a robot, in which case, the “conversation” ends with crickets. Then, there is the classic, let me delete my thread, or all my comments nutter. It’s really a lot to contend with, but I think that is the point.

[@rustyshackleford3320]

University is a waste of time and money when u go into believing 2 genders and u go out believing in billions. Life is based on duelality. U can't have good wo bad. U can't have up wo down ect boy girl

[@nathans1787]

I’m genuinely curious what you mean. Do you believe that critical analysis of conspiracy theories in general isn’t worth studying? Or that conspiracy theories about this particular topic (9/11) aren’t worth studying?

[@zapdunga12]

FACT: The Ground Zero fires burned for almost 100 days. It took 99 days-until December 19, 2001-for the fires at Ground Zero to be extinguished. “You couldn’t even begin to imagine how much water was pumped in there,” said Tom Manley, a firefighters’ union representative. “It was like you were creating a giant lake.” The fire caused by the attack on the Pentagon took approximately 36 hours to put out. I'd be curious to know how NIST or the 911 Commission explained this. 😮

[@RSterkenburg]

Easy: oxygen. Fire smoulders until you uncover it, give it oxygen, then it burns. You can do it in your own backyard.

[@ritemolawbks8012]

@@RSterkenburg You shouldn't have even dignified it with a response..

[@dikranovichk5889]

The pot calling the kettle black

[@TDH8988]

@@RSterkenburg HAha, Yeah right. 🤣

[@Not1Edit]

Easily! THEY NEVER MENTION IT!!!

[@gripz9387]

“An inside job?? The government would NEVER do that, they have our best interests in mind!” Operation northwoods has entered the chat.

[@imjustpepe_]

Operation Northwoods never happened, it was a proposal that was rejected. But what would that have to do with whether or not I should accept a conspiracy theory in this case? Which is the crux of the matter here, isn't it? How do you tell the difference between reality and fantasy? There's only one reality as to what happened on 9/11, everything else is fantasy.

[@angelan5566]

Care to explain pls?

[@ChrisWarari]

Your joking right?

[@angelan5566]

@@ChrisWarari no. I don’t know what operations northwoods is.

[@gripz9387]

@@angelan5566 there’s something miraculous called google. Use it.

[@EdmundKempersDartboard]

This is gonna be a fun comment section to read.

[@bloodyneptune]

Im only a few comments in and I have to stop. Half of them are just "oh yeah, what about [insert thing disproven in this very video]?"

[@lonewolf5238]

"Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead." ― Benjamin Franklin

[@jeremylarson6267]

i thought that was a clinton quote

[@lonewolf5238]

It's attributed to Ben Franklin, but likely originated with William Shakespeare. And has been used by many others over the years, including Clinton probably. But I prefer Mark Twain's version: "Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead."

[@rustybarrel516]

@@jeremylarson6267🤣

[@BezoomyKoshka-ip4dz]

"Put it in your mouth or I'll tell your parents you skipped school" - The Pope

[@breathofthestars7043]

“You’re an Idiot” - Judge Judy

[@bettycattk5298]

Saudi Arabia was the culprit for 9/11, and we attacked Iraq. Go figure!

[@zapdunga12]

FACT: The number of United States troops who have died fighting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had passed 7,000 at the end of 2019. Official Pentagon numbers do not include the many troops who return home and kill themselves as a result of psychological wounds such as PTSD. Over 30,177 service members and veterans of the post-9/11 wars have committed suicide -- over four times as many as have died in combat. 😢 P.S. WE NEVER FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION 😢

[@mooneyes2k478]

Congratulations, you managed to get it wrong. Considering your OTHER posts, I can only assume it was malicious, though bog-stupid can't be discounted.

[@zapdunga12]

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[@Kalumbatsch]

"P.S. WE NEVER FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" Isn't it funny? The gummint is supposedly able to perfectly pull off some massive Rube Goldberg kind of operation that makes no sense whatsoever and do it in complete secrecy, but cannot even plant a little nerve gas or half-finished nuclear bomb in Iraq?

[@Brady_Da_GOAT]

Mass destruction isn’t just nuclear weapons 😂 They did find tons of deadly chemical weapons which CAN be used to kill mass populations.

[@Kalumbatsch]

@@Brady_Da_GOAT I don't think so. That would have been big news. I'm quite sure they found jack shit.

[@FCWW87]

That list of “all of the theories” is not very comprehensive…. You’re missing some of the bigger questions. Like where is the 2.3 trillion dollars that Rummy said was missing, and the search was happening in building seven? That’s the one that I wonder about. The money trail…. And who benefits. Those are the questions. Rummy, Cheney, and a lot of others made more money because of the “war on terror” than is imaginable. Trillions.

[@jonathanhill2703]

Cheney and Rumsfeld are trillionaires?

[@devonaveii2675]

@debunker you're right. He said they couldnt account for where the 2.3 trillion in transactions went, and also said they were "declaring war" on the bureaucracy of the pentagon. On sept 10 2001 🤔

[@cathalsurfs]

@@devonaveii2675 Allegedly a plane flew into the Pentagon. Factually, the exact location that was taken out was the offices used for conducting internal investigations regarding the missing trillions.

[@m-5364]

Muslims are the victim

[@joeherbert7556]

There is a good video from Chomsky on this. Basically, the fact that a lot of people took advantage of the situation for their own personal benefit is not evidence that they themselves created the situation. It's kind of like, there are dudes on the streets of New York City who go out and sell $5 umbrellas for $25 a piece every time it rains. But I don't think that these guys control the weather. One of the things that Chomsky mentions in his video is that if you looked around the world just after 9/11, you actually saw that every authoritarian power in the world used it as an excuse to crack down on their citizens, and tighten their control. But that doesn't mean that they caused it or planned it. It just means that they knew how to capitalize on an opportunity when they saw one.

[@tommartz8432]

The Patriot Act can be a reason to “create” without 9/11 it’s a hard sell

[@mogadon7]

Wasnt Bush senior staying in White House the night before. The man who had John Lennon assassinated (2 gunmen/Jose Perdomo (CIA)).

[@robertramirez1082]

7/11 was a part time job. 🙄

[@coimbralaw]

Russian troll humor?

[@robertramirez1082]

@@coimbralaw Naw! Makeing fun of idiots humor!

[@Nickh4929]

I also hate the people who say "jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams" like they are some engineers when in reality they are a young kid in there mama's attick.

[@jr5993]

​@robertramirez1082 it's a funny joke but I've got countless things about 9/11 that nobody has ever explained.

[@robertramirez1082]

@@jr5993 Yeah sure you do Scooter..SMH...

[@chrimony]

Does this video contain any dancing?

[@StickyGreenStuff]

Nanothermite explosive residue in 9/11 ash...why is a military grade explosive there at all??. These are the real Critical questions that should be discussed that never are.

[@mooneyes2k478]

"There was MAGICAL PIXIE DUST!" Yeah, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise, hand-waving magic isn't an argument. Which is also why it isn't "discussed". Much like how "SANTA did it" is also not argued. And that's not even touching on how you don't even understand what you THINK you mean.

[@Larry26-f1w]

Three thousand victims disappeared that day , no satisfactory answer was provided as to their whereabouts. You’ve had twenty five years to swing at the ball and never one hit !!!

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@Larry26-f1w "On the afternoon of 9/11, I was deployed with five of my cops to the city morgue to assess the needs and assist victims’ families. Anticipating mass casualties, the city’s Medical Examiner had ordered refrigerated containers to accommodate the volume of remains recovered. But the anticipated amount of human remains was not to become a reality for years, as less than 300 dead bodies were recovered “intact” from Ground Zero. Since 9/11, there have been 1,647 persons identified of the 2,753 people who died." Still lying, huh, Matt?

[@Larry26-f1w]

Math comes to rescue the truth . Never forget ( you were lied to )

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@Larry26-f1w We know you lie as soon as your fingers hit the keyboard, Matty. No need to repeat it.

[@NickkaDUB]

Keeping secrets isn’t hard. You obviously aren’t aware of how many compartmentalized people worked on the nuclear bombs without their knowledge.

[@adamsyed5535]

About 100,000 people were "in on" the creation of the atomic bomb, but the project was so secret that vice president Harry Truman did not know about it until he became president.

[@NickkaDUB]

@@adamsyed5535 9/11 wouldn’t be as hard to keep secret as this guy thinks. Just think about the people who in so many cases we know about were part of simulations of the exact same thing at the exact same time and place going on. These people who are orchestrating the real events at least know about the plans for the simulations. People started to catch onto it and now they don’t make it public knowledge anymore. You used to be able to lookup FEMA workshops and they’re also not posted anymore to the public. You used to be able to see a lot of the crisis actor workshops and it’s the same thing. No longer available for the public to see. I wish Jesse Ventura would be President. There wouldn’t be near as many things redacted and top secret anymore. There’s more top secret info than there is info in general from them. This is OUR government and not the Government’s government. It’s not some secret society here just to exploit us. Everything needs to be un-redacted after a year and public knowledge unless it’s still going on and really puts people in harm’s way. No more of this BS Bradley Manning type stuff where nobody’s at risk of anything except the guilty party. That should’ve been made public knowledge long before wiki-leaks showed it. The lies in the 9/11 Commission’s Report are finally going to be proven. They finally are being forced to admit their omissions in their cpu simulations would’ve made a difference and kept WTC 7 from falling. Their lies actually put people’s lives at risk when they say this certain thing caused catastrophic failure in the building and they withheld it from us. We all knew it was a lie and that them telling us it jeopardizes public safety was BS. Now it throws a monkey wrench in the whole narrative they put out where 6 of the 10 members said the report was a lie. The main author is a self confessed “expert in misleading the public and putting out propaganda”. The FOIA requests and info are on the front page of A&E911Truth.org. I’m a builder so it was easy for me to read the plans, but I think anyone could most likely read it and have a decent comprehension of it. 9/11 could’ve been kept a secret. If you can convince our public that biological men can be women, you can convince them of anything.. That is those same people who control the media brainwashing us again. They’re trolling us.

[@NickkaDUB]

@@adamsyed5535 Your comment is so true and speaks on multiple issues. It shows that people only know what they allow them to know. Presidents are selected, not elected. Even when they become President, they still only have so much power. I just wonder how many are completely corrupt going into the seat or if they’re compromised after taking the seat as POTUS. I believe more than 75% are corrupt going into it. People love Trump, but always forget he didn’t drain the swamp. He still played nice with both sides. He didn’t even do anything to Hillary. He never told us what happened to JFK, disclosed the truth about Aliens or what really happened on 9/11 like he promised. The biggest of those obviously being 9/11. Although a lot of people believe telling us there are really aliens would somehow take away the control religions have over us and somehow we’d all just go crazy. But yeah, those are just things you’d think would be really easy for a president to do.

[@saje911]

Manhattan Project. 100,000+ involved, and yet they kept it airtight.

[@NickkaDUB]

@@saje911 Compartmentalization. I thought the bomb had 42,000 people? I’m probably wrong on that.

[@arlrb76]

If you believed the official story, you probably now don't after watching this

[@dark_sky_guy]

My thing is that pilots saying that you cannot fly planes that size at those speeds that low to the ground without them literally falling apart...an that the second plane would have been pulling 4 or 5 Gs to maneuver to hit that building....or that there is no video of the pentagon being it other then 2 frames from a security camera..you would think that military headquarters would have more videos..given there are camera all over the outside of that building or from other buildings in the area??????

[@smorris12]

​@@dark_sky_guyIt's not that you *can't* fly planes at that speed close to the ground or that the they can't pull those sort of manoeuvres, it's that you *shouldn't*. These parameters are outside of the normal flying envelope specified for these planes. This means that such manoeuvres could lead to either instant or long term structural damage - something commercial pilots are careful to avoid. The hijackers couldn't care less of course. In extremis, the flight that went down a month later in NY shows how excess use of the rudder could rip off the entire tailplane.

[@animula6908]

I did and do. Just like you believe every little thing you believed before watching. No one is really here to negotiate. Everyone else being as stubborn as you are yourself shouldn’t surprise or offend you.

[@tommartz8432]

Wouldn’t you also have to believe that people who have little to no flight experience can navigate the turbulence and with pinpoint accuracy hit their targets?

[@mooneyes2k478]

Since that has no bearing on the facts...no. No, you wouldn't have to believe that.

[@littlefluffybushbaby7256]

Actually, of the four pilots, three had pilot licenses, the forth had pilot training. Some of the other hijackers also had flight training. These are the ones usually pointed to as flight-school drop outs. Many ignore the ones who didn't drop out. You don't become qualified without accumulating flight time. It's not necesaary to accumulate a lot of experience to crash. Usually you accumulate experience so you won't crash. If you look at the crazy angle they hit the towers they look more like inexperienced pilots than professionals. Professionals would have done a better job. Pilots can't afford to be sloppy. As for the turbulence, from the footage I saw it was a clear day. They weren't flying through a huricane.

[@littlefluffybushbaby7256]

@user-il7ku8zi9q Yes. They knew enough to fly badly and without having to cover 98% of what I professional pilot would need to know. If you look at the first tower they hit it at an angle. Banked. That is, even with a target that stood out for miles they needed to turn into it. If you look at footage of the second plane they almost missed. Again with a target that they would have been able to see from miles away. That doesn't imply a high degree of airline flying skill to me. What they would have known is how the rudder and stick worked and for what they were doing that was enough, if barely. If they were not doing the flying, in the last minutes at least, then the alternative is either the airline pilots were doing it or the planes were remotely controlled (there are a number of more insane theories but let's ignore them for now). Of the alternatives the most plausible one, and the one the evidence points to, is that, unfortunately, they just had enough skill to hit the towers. I think they were 767's, not that it's central to your argument.

[@georgehardie2016]

Exactly

[@thebadace1]

This is the worst CIA op ever

[@mariezurie7828]

Where's your proof??

[@jeperstone]

Yes but luckily we have you to balance it out with your Yoooooooutube research 🤡

[@GOF313]

@@mariezurie7828 rope

[@jorgeescalante4176]

Crazy guy

[@DeliveryManBoy]

God bless the comment section. 😅

[@Henkvanpeer]

The information density is sooo low in this le ture that my brain is lulled into a sleeplike state. Perhaps that is by design, on purpose, as in that state brains are mode receptive, tend to just accept claims instead of asking critical questions and start thinking for it’s self…

[@NotAvailable-f6s]

The design is to get u focussed on the huggin bears 😂😂😂❤

[@dikranovichk5889]

It does t seem like you have any questions. Just some incredulous position

[@animula6908]

Facts are boring. Fiction is glamorous and dramatic. It’s easy to see why so many people prefer it, and I don’t fault you for it. The biggest survival skill for modern life is escaping from reality.

[@justinmadrid8712]

At 16:16 he is complaining that a conspiracy theorist kept revising their version of events, suggesting that revising your story reduces your credibility. Then at 35:04 he says, "If you are searching for the truth, your beliefs must be revisable." 🤔

[@idrinkmilk282]

Nobody said he was smart. I mean, he just did a two hour lecture explaining to adults what conspiracy theories are and why they're open to rebuttal. And used it as a mic drop moment that he somehow thinks devalues conspiracy itself. Amazing level of self worth he has.

[@davidmudry5622]

Gravity on earth's surface is 1g...Everything on earth that they say is in a static weight condition (i.e. said to be standing still like a chair) is being accelerated up at 1g. If you accelerate up in a rocket to the moon you will experience more than 1g and your weight goes up. If you're accelerating down like the twin towers (NIST WTC FAQ 31 says they fell essentially in free fall) then you are accelerating up at less than 1g and you will weigh less than standing still. And essentially in free fall would be essentially no weight force down, or accelerating up at essentially zero g. No weight no collapse, unless the support was removed first.

[@harrowgateguy]

He also says a conspiracy theorist presents a theory of what really happened so if someone simply points out why the official story can’t be true then they are not a conspiracy theorist. You don’t have to know the truth to know what’s a lie.

[@theconsummatenerd]

Also interesting that at 3:46 the slide says, "MAY or may not be true". Yes. Let's all just dismiss items that require further study because I tell you with an air of superiority that this is false. Then he goes on to regale us with the knowledge that you need advanced degrees in architecture, chemistry, or physics to understand all of this, even though those experts still don't agree on the story.

[@harrowgateguy]

@@theconsummatenerd mmmhmm and many professional experts in the relative fields have put their lucrative careers at risk to tell the rest of us the official story simply cannot be true.

[@Jamesmr1984]

Can he explain how they found Mohammed Atta's passport down the street from the wreckage shortly after impact? That's how they found out about him, remember?

[@BeeEatingOrchid]

The surviving passport was recovered from flight 93, which crashed in Shanksville. The passport belonged to Ziad Samir, not Muhammad Atta. Seriously, a quick google search is not hard.

[@joshd3192]

Can you explain how you became a twoofer?

[@KevinBalch-dt8ot]

@@BeeEatingOrchid - No, the recovered passport was found a block or two away from the WTC. Garrick Utley reported it on CNN with a “ Can you believe it?”.

[@O-.-O]

@@joshd3192 By banging your [*fill family relative here*]?

[@O-.-O]

@@BeeEatingOrchid Quick google search said that the passport found on the street belonged to Satam al Suqami. Is your google broken or you didn't try hard enough?

[@PhoenixKluster]

i love how he brought flat earthers into this haha

[@hime273]

"FlatEarth" was/is clearly created in order to use as a weapon to link to any claim the Government doesn't want people to look any deeper into.

[@billyumbraskey8135]

they have to bring as many well poisoning red herrings as possible, guilt by association. it's a tactic regimes always use. look at how flat earth is also often adjacent to other populist ideas

[@innertubez]

Flat Earther-ism has to be the stupidest conspiracy theory ever.

[@hyp3rb3ast41]

ohh so you believe we landed on the moon?.. what a sheep

[@Calidastas]

I don’t believe the earth is flat but am convinced that Mars and Sun are. Sun is just a big bright disk 👍🏻

[@memorywarrior8752]

"There are hundreds of testimonies, and I have a Word document of all of the eye witness testimonies that claim they say a plane hit the Pentagon, and it's several pages long. And referenced with citations. I should have brought that with me today" You think?

[@QueenofKings-mh7zn]

I live in Northern Virginia and I know lots of people who saw the plane hit the pentagon. In fact, my best friend saw it and that’s how I met her. Afterwards she was too afraid to drive back to DC for work so she got a job with my company that was a different direction AND she moved out of Arlington. She had so much PTSD.

[@zapdunga12]

JOHN GROSS, NIST INVESTIGATOR: "We were charged with finding out the cause of the collapse, and we found out what happened. I think we've scientifically demonstrated what was required to INITIATE collapse. Once the collapse initiated, the VIDEO EVIDENCE is quite clear. It was not stopped by the floors below. So there was no calculation that we did to demonstrate that what is CLEAR FROM THE VIDEOS." Zapdunga: To investigate only up to collapse initiation is only doing part of the story and leaving out a great deal. If the top of the building became unstable due to the weakening of columns, one would reasonably expect the top of the building to start to lean, start to creak, connections start to break, and the top of the building would simply fall off to the side and come crashing down on the buildings next door, and the rest of the building would remain. That's what one would expect according to the Laws of Physics. Instead we saw something quite different. It is not reasonable to think that the weakening of some columns near the impact zone could somehow lead to an ENTIRE BUILDING collapsing entirely down on itself symmetrically into its own footprint with nothing left but bits of dust. Not once, not twice but THREE TIMES that day! That is just not plausible, not reasonable.

[@billeckert6454]

Overall his presentation is NOT COMPELLING AT ALL but some points he makes are good. Eyewitnesses relate observing a large number of beams which were cut on 45° angles among the wreckage by the first evening of the collapse, long before workers were found to make the cuts that were done to remove some of the debris. He provides no mention of the beams that were found with complex cuts that would not be needed to help dislodge collapsed beams from the wreckage but are standard cuts used in demo work. He makes no mention of the many eyewitnesses who experienced actual explosions before the plane hit the first building. How did body parts of firefighters end up on the top of the Deutsche Bank building? What force sent them there in fragments? If the plane in Shanksville was submerged below the surface of the ground how do you explain plane parts that were found miles away from that crash site? If the buildings collapsed by simply weakened steel (which would only possibly happen on the floors where there were fires), what caused the thick welded and bolted steel to weaken on the lower floors that experienced no fires? How do you account for almost everything in both buildings except the steel beams being reduced to powder? Some conspiracy ideas are provably false, by evidence, but that doesn't mean all theories that leave open the possibility of or lean towards suggesting some sort of conspiracy as being worth considering are automatically false. Any theory is just a hypothesis that needs to be tested. Isn't the idea of middle eastern terrorist hijackers masterminding and coordinating the attacks itself a conspiracy theory? How were they able to coordinate the whole scheme to correspond to a day when brand new people would be in charge of our air defenses and on a day (when many in our own government were not even in the know) that Air Force exercises would be conducted? And, if you believe those people could be so evil to do such murderous things, why do you think only they are capable of such wickedness but people you think are "on your side" couldn't possibly be capable of such evil? Maybe they could. Maybe they have sinful hearts with selfish ambitions too. It's theoretically possible isn't it? Do we have any evidence that aligns with that? Did anyone on "your side" ever claim a national leader was hiding weapons of mass destruction and drop bombs on his country only to later claim they were acting on bad information, even when many around them warned them the evidence didn't support their position and resultant policy? Honestly this lecturer is guilty of the very things he accuses others of in my opinion.

[@billeckert6454]

Prove it and confront the eyewitness that stated it. A firefighter present at the scene gave this testimony. Just saying it's false doesn't make it so unless YOU were there too and submit different testimony. Then we'd have to reconcile any differences or refute them. Something about eyewitnesses who are clearly just recalling from memory what they experienced has more weight for me than people who just go in the opposite direction and make statements with no proof or evidence or reason offered. Just postulating an alternative doesn't make it the reality of what happened. It takes more than that. The witness actually answered your objection stating there was such an abundance of such columns that he saw, and while they were having difficulty locating skilled people to make the needed cuts to remove some of the beams, he said there would be NO WAY all the cuts he observed could possibly be made in such a short amount of time on the day of the collapse to that evening. So I believe some cuts were made during the demolition and other cuts were made during the removal.

[@joshd3192]

TRANSLATION: I watched some conspiracy videos and now I'm smart.

[@timshea4279]

@@billeckert6454 *A firefighter present at the scene gave this testimony* Where? *would not be needed to help dislodge collapsed beams from the wreckage* These were multi ton beams. Like CD, they cut them this way during clean up so they can control which way they fall. *How did body parts of firefighters end up on the top of the Deutsche Bank building* Where is it determined it was firefighters? *explain plane parts that were found miles away from that crash site* Debris was found less than a mile away. The dolts at Loose Change Google mapped it to come up with 8miles. That was 8 miles _Driving,_ not a straight line. And the material was lightweight capable of being carried with the wind. *what caused the thick welded and bolted steel to weaken on the lower floors* The weight load limit of every floor, even the lower ones, was 29,000,000 lbs. Far exceeded by the collapsing debris. *when brand new people would be in charge of our air defenses* Honestly, where do you get your information? Major Nasypany was a seasoned commander. You truly don't know what you're talking about. That's enough

[@billeckert6454]

@@joshd3192 why not answer the points and testimonies made by people who experienced the events of that day first hand rather than maligning the people who put together the "conspiracy" video, or people who have viewed them? Why not prove THE EYEWITNESSES wrong and confront THEM: the people who were there and gave the testimony? As I said, this "debunker" ignores much. Like it or not news reports are news reports. They are historical events and must be faced, and as I said, either refuted or reconciled. They are still available and whether you agree with the conclusions promoted by any "conspiracy" video or not, you still have the problem of the testimonies given which were included in the various video presentations. Those are first hand accounts like it or not, and they must be included in any honest attempt to understand what happened that day. What's your explanation of how everything in the twin towers becomes dust? Did the pancaking floors grind people to powder? Did pancaking floors also grind virtually every computer, every desk, every chair to powder too? If that's what you believe, please tell us all how that happened without invoking the involvement of explosives? How did pancaking floors cause steel beams and complete sections of the tower walls to become embedded in neighboring buildings hundreds of feet away? Photos of those still exist. They record historical facts. What's YOUR explanation of why didn't they just fall down to the ground close to the towers?

[@joshd3192]

@@billeckert6454 The truth movement has had 22 years to provide evidence to their claims and have failed miserably. Your long-winded posts and personal incredulity mean nothing.

[@nstanifer28]

All the hijackers were not from Saudi Arabia. 15 of them were citizens of Saudi Arabia, two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was from Egypt, and one from Lebanon. NONE however, were citizens of Iraq or Afghanistan.

[@mooneyes2k478]

And so what?

[@nstanifer28]

So beyond a reasonable doubt just saying "plus there's this other dude who masterminded it so we get to invade 2 countries that had nothing to do with it trust us bro" is undeniable evidence of conspiracy

[@kjjohnson24]

This guy encourages people to “look at the evidence”, but then when he addresses the evidence himself he either gets it wrong or says “I don’t know, I’m not the expert”. Between his total ignorance and the intermittent animal photos, this presentation is such a bad defense of the official position that it almost seems like satire…

[@mikero6225]

I think you may have missed the point. Hint: he summarizes at 1:53 - 2:10

[@mooneyes2k478]

So, then, since he "gets it wrong", why don't you, oh, "look at the evidence" as he said. He isn't there to spoon-feed you.

[@russellherdson5763]

Horses, Kittens, & BS. Eye witness accounts are usually given priority in a court of law. Those who saw, heard, and felt explosions never had their day in court.

[@tpryce6243]

There’s plenty of on-the-record testimony of “explosions” and other loud noises.

[@davidkettelle1581]

A single plane hitting a single spot on the tower, blowing a hole and burning off most of the jet fuel out the other end, DOES NOT RESULT in free fall collapse of a steel framed building that was built thicker at the bottom and thinner as the building construction gets higher. At most, it should have FALLEN OVER, at the point where the plane struck. Do not believe this lousy POS, if anyone on here ever gets to meet this speaker, crack his jaw.

[@EngineeringFan1776]

Eyewitness testimony is notorious for not always being reliable. This is evident in cases like the Titanic, where hundreds swore up and down that the ship never broke apart, but findings later contradicted that. Many claimed to have heard “explosions” in the lobby as the plane impacted, but it was later revealed to be jet fuel igniting as it rushed down an elevator shaft. Reality is a lot more dull than movies.

[@roquefortfiles]

The firemen who survived the collapse of WTC 1 have never mentioned explosives in 20 years. And they were IN the stairwells.

[@marshallcj1]

At what point does something stop being a theory?

[@OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOq]

They expedited the removal of steel and concrete from ground zero. Most people would have good faith and assume it’s being done as an attempt to find and rescue survivors buried in the rubble. Considering they used excavators and other heavy equipment to shift the debris as they load trucks, it becomes obvious that was not their goal. It’s illegal to destroy evidence in a crime scene. The initial cleanup involved loading trucks with concrete and steel. One can also argue it was an exception just to quickly remove it so it can be studied elsewhere, yet the steel was sent to China to be destroyed and recycled. Although not all steel was shipped away. I presume mostly the beams that are less telling were kept. Government officials were aware that ground zero was dangerous due the the airborne alphabet soup of toxic construction materials, but since they wanted the evidence to be gone ASAP, they lied to the first responders and all those involved in the cleanup. They had told the workers and the public that it was okay to not wear mask, as an attempt to reassure it was safe. All those hero’s who were exposed, and many other citizens died from cancer, either months after the event, or decades later. Some even till this day are suffering from respiratory illnesses. All because they were told it was okay to work in a hazardous area w/o protection. Many researchers were warned that they would lose their job if they sample the air in the area. They did not want the public to find out. Some didn’t listen and upon studying their samples, they found out how bad it was, as well as traces of thermite, which is a substance that burns extremely hot in a matter of seconds, capable of melting steel. This is something only (for the most part) the military has access to. It’s unnatural for a building (especially one of that hight) to collapse perfectly on its own footprint. This is why demolition is a profession that requires experts. One needs to strategically place explosives to prevent the destruction of neighboring buildings. Many eye witnesses shared their experience of hearing what sounded like a controlled demolition, as well as seeing how windows from floors where blasted out sequentially from top to bottom. There is recorded evidence that shows it in action from different angles. The explosions were so powerful that most of the 100 tons of concrete turned into fine dust. Since there was too much questionable evidence, NIST was assigned with the duty to gaslight the public with inaccurate cgi recreations in an attempt to explain away what people saw with their own eyes. There have been buildings prior that have burned for almost 20 hrs with raging fires. Yet they never collapsed due to the structural integrity being made of steel. It’s a phenomenon how a state of the art engineered structure to have gone down with only 2 hrs of burning. This has never happened in the past, and it will never happen again in the future. Fun Fact: it’s been found that NYC sidewalks and potholes have been filled with cement mixes which have the remains of bodies. They can date it back due to the condition of the burned and crushed bone fragments.

[@tpryce6423]

All your claims are false.

[@timshea4279]

*Considering they used excavators and other heavy equipment to shift the debris* What is your suggestion for moving 20 ton slabs of concrete and steel? *yet the steel was sent to China to be destroyed and recycled* The first steel didn't leave for China until Jan/02. This was after FEMA had access to examine it at the recycling yards and the WTC site itself. The last steel wasn't removed until May/02. 236 steel samples were kept for NIST's investigation. *They had told the workers and the public that it was okay to not wear mask, as an attempt to reassure it was safe* This was for the areas outside of the WTCs complex. Anyone entering the site to assist in clean up was instructed to wear a mask. *as well as traces of thermite* There was no thermite. Harris/Jones lit a paint chip on fire and called it thermite. And you all bought it. They never sent any of their samples for verification even though there was $5000 fund raising for Mark Basile to do so. He took the money and never heard anything more about it. *This is something only (for the most part) the military has access to* 🤦‍♂ Mythbusters made thermite in their backyard. *to collapse perfectly on its own footprint* WTCs 1 & 2 collapsed into a 16 acre field, outside their 2 acre footprints. WTC7 collapsed into neighboring Verizon Building. *There is recorded evidence that shows it in action from different angles* Show these videos and explain why it is exclusive to CD as opposed to a building tearing itself apart. *The explosions were so powerful that most of the 100 tons of concrete turned into fine dust* It's simply unbelievable how you lot repeat something without giving it minimal scrutiny. Because a simple google image search will show you the layers of concrete removed during clean up and 2 separate analyses of the dust that covered Manhattan showed less than 5% composition of concrete. *There have been buildings prior that have burned for almost 20 hrs with raging fires. Yet they never collapsed due to the structural integrity being made of steel* Were they hit by planes? With 10,000 gals of fuel dumped in them? Were they actively fought by firefighters? Spraying water to control temperatures? Ever ask any of these questions to yourself?

[@giraffezebra2698]

Funny how the one time we didn’t actually need masks we were forced to wear them, and on 9/11 they were not required.

[@OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOq]

@@tpryce6423 Except their not claims but facts. Either look it up or remain ignorant and in denial.

[@tpryce6423]

@@OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOq Nope. It’s all failed conspiracy nonsense.

[@xeikai]

THe problem with official story vs conspiracy theory's is that people don't know who to believe or trust anymore. Social media and online news has pulled people's attention thousands of different ways and because people absolutely believe that their government lies to them on a daily basis, it's only logical to believe that they would lie about this too. Best thing to do is just carry on with life and change the things you know you can change and ignore the thing you cannot. Dwelling on these things will only just decrease the quality and happiness of your life.

[@fishchipsandmushypeas]

Well said.

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

That's very true. NOONE is to be trusted. Especially not the US government or their mainstream media whores. However....the events of 9/11 are well understood and explained for anyone who possesses the intelligence, training, education and experience to understand it. For those lacking a formal education in relevant fields there are several videos on YT and a wealth of other resources to explain the events of 9/11 to the layman. And there are those like me who are willing to explain it and answer any questions. It requires a level of intelligence and understanding but I'm quite sure anyone with a 3 digit IQ CAN understand this stuff when presented in a digestible form. I do my best to do just that. I do not waste my time on brain dead "truthers" who simply do not want the TRUTH even if they could understand it, which they can't. Show me you want to understand what really happened, regardless of what that may be and I'll do my best to help.

[@Kid_Kootenay]

They also took so long to put anything out the seeds of doubt were allowed to grow. I was a staunch inside jobber. but just before this anniversary something peaked my interest and I went on a WTC info binge. I have to say the more complete picture with the testimony and science it made much more since and explained away the issues I had. Im still not positive on all of it but I see why they fell it was not a demolition etc

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

@@Kid_Kootenay - exactly. And it takes a mature person of character to admit when they're wrong. Kudos to you. Most "truthers" , well, the ones with a 3 digit IQs, would arrive at the same conclusion IF they were capable of clearing their minds of the "truther" fog and actually a) OBJECTIVELY look at the existing EVIDENCE and b) realize, admit to and actually process the total lack of evidence that exists in support of their MANY "truther" theories and claims. Not to mention, realizing the absolute IMPOSSIBILITY of their cockamamie Tom Clancey/Scooby-Doo government conspiracy. Most "truthers" do NOT want the TRUTH, however. They only want their ridiculously complex and technologically and practically impossible government conspiracy to be true and will forgo all logic, abandon all reason, ignore all evidence and warp their very reality to have it! It's insane! Btw, I'd be happy to help dispell and clear up any misgivings or questions you might have if possible or direct you to someone who can.

[@babyyoda3694]

@@holdernewtshesrearin5471 Is the government conspiracy theory "absolutely" impossible or "practically" impossible?

[@happierabroad]

Sorry professor, but office fires are 1000 degreees F, not 2000 degrees. That is factually wrong. Also weakening the steel would NOT cause it to disintegrate and collapse at FREE FALL speed with zero resistance into its own footprint. That is impossible. Common sense. It would also not cause the towers to turn to dust midair. How do you explain that? How do you sleep at night professor?

[@babaloo42]

He says he's seen all the evidence! I'm skeptical that a rational person who's seen all the evidence could HONESTLY come to the conclusion he has.

[@brucelansberg5485]

_"Sorry professor, but office fires are 1000 degreees F"_ I seems you mistake C for F. _"weakening the steel would NOT cause it to disintegrate and collapse at FREE FALL speed with zero resistance into its own footprint. "_ Nobody has claimed such. Fires caused the steel to weaken, which caused the onset of the collapse, which caused the floors of the intact part to fail, which caused the progressive part of the collapse. _" It would also not cause the towers to turn to dust midair."_ That never happened. 108.000+ trucks loads of debris have been hauled from the site. These trucks did not haul dust. No steel turned to dust. The millions of square ft of rock sheet did however.

[@tomspearman2029]

Having read and re-read the official version, there is so much which is simply not addressed. The Quote here that "Norad was suspended that day" is misleading and the speaker even admits he has no idea regarding the matter. Cheney rescinding the order to shoot down attacking blanes just days before the attacks is irrefutable. The involvement and intrique between the CIA and all things Muslim is skimmed over pretty lightly. The knowledge the FBI had on the Saudi's training is not addressed. So many co-incidences not even addressed makes it hard to generate EVIDENCE.

[@NickkaDUB]

You really have enough balls to say hitting the targets because the planes were already in the air was a simple task? Then why couldn’t the replicate it in a simulator? The best pilots couldn’t do it! Did you do any research? Do planes even fly those speeds at low altitude?

[@Forensource]

What best pilots were those? Are you just a conspirtarc?

[@NickkaDUB]

@@Forensource a conspiritarc? You learned a new word? Learn how to spell it. You can watch any of the conspiracy documentaries and get their names. Sorry I don’t have them memorized. I’ll give you a video and prove you wrong again, but I do I really need to do the research for you? One guy’s name is John Lear. Ever heard of him? kzbin.info/www/bejne/npS3gpeniKmMeJI

[@Forensource]

@@NickkaDUBConspirtard.

[@Forensource]

Funny how b-52 pilots fly at a hundred feet to do that at 600 mph. John Lear was a UFO conspiracy nut. Who cares? So what happened to the four planes? The flight crews and passengers? What about all the videos of the planes hitting the towers? Silly conspirtard.

[@NickkaDUB]

@@Forensourcethat’s all you know how to say. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXa0pauKo6moqc0

[@cillz-titoregniar367]

This is not thinking critically. It is actually the opposite. This person is not a critical thinker.

[@davidkettelle1581]

A single plane hitting a single spot on the tower, blowing a hole and burning off most of the jet fuel out the other end, DOES NOT RESULT in free fall collapse of a steel framed building that was built thicker at the bottom and thinner as the building construction gets higher. At most, it should have FALLEN OVER, at the point where the plane struck. Do not believe this lousy POS, if anyone on here ever gets to meet this speaker, crack his jaw.

[@o0Donuts0o]

I’m not a conspiracy theorist nor do i believe any of the “inside job” theories. But this guy doesn’t do a very good job of disproving any of them. He just waved his hand and says that the experts say it can’t be this or that.

[@happierabroad]

Why do all these debunkers always cite "Loose Change"? That is a weak documentary. There are far better ones, such as "Zero: An Investigation into 9/11" or "9/11 Mysteries" or "September 11: The New Pearl Harbor" or the documentaries produced by AE911Truth (Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth). This lecture is a total whitewash and doesn't care about evidence.

[@santacruz158]

Finding highjackers passport and no blackbox is not a conspiracy

[@robertdujin1365]

You paid to attend this lecture?

[@joshd3192]

I didn't it's on KZbin.

[@MisterMcKinney]

Yet no one has come forward in the last 20 years with a guilty conscience.

[@davidmudry5622]

Yeah like who killed Jimmy Hoffa ?

[@davidmudry5622]

I wonder what he would say about Alaska's Structural Engineer professors? I doubt he knows more than they do about engineering? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnuzpoqvbtqnqdU

[@joshd3192]

@@davidmudry5622 What do you mean professors? It was one person. Research is hard for the twoofers.

[@davidmudry5622]

@@joshd3192 1 of the students is now a professor in China the other is a professional engineer. BTW 2 1/2 years later and not one debunking from any university or TV personality science expert in the entire world. The media looks the other way will not tell the public the News from Alaska because they are not a Free Press...and they say democracy is in trouble LOL

[@davidmudry5622]

@@joshd3192 There were also students who were threatened not to get involved in the study...nice right...freedom right.

[@BasedinReality1984]

Well him talking about covid didn’t age well. Turns out all those ‘conspiracies’ were mostly true.

[@brucelansberg5485]

_"Turns out all those ‘conspiracies’ were mostly true."_ A conspiracy is a factual and measurable thing. You were thinking "conspiracy theories". And you are incorrect. Of course.

[@BasedinReality1984]

@@brucelansberg5485 you know what I mean. We were right, the mainstream view was wrong.

[@brucelansberg5485]

@@BasedinReality1984 _"you know what I mean."_ I can only make an educated guess and verify with you. I don't "know" until you confirm. Please name three conspiracy theories about Covid that proved to be correct and proved the mainstream to be incorrect.

[@jawmedia7575]

I would love to see footage of the pentagon attack. Real footage

[@normalfellow1113]

You still think a plane never hit the pentagon? Where did the plane go? Did they park it in Canada?

[@harrowgateguy]

It took them a while to produce the one video that doesn’t even show a plane, and they confiscated all private video surveillance footage from businesses in the area.

[@HavanaBobChannel]

How many ppl died at pentagon?

[@SmalltimR]

'On Sept. 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 was hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon, killing all 64 people on the plane and 125 people in the Pentagon'

[@HavanaBobChannel]

@@SmalltimR thanks mate

[@animula6908]

125

[@jayfreedom1454]

He fails to mention Wille the janitor. He spoke of bombs in the basement before the planes hit

[@julielockett1812]

Can I ask if there were bombs in the basement how were all the shops and other areas not impacted so much, because they were able to search those areas, surely bombs down there would have destroyed those areas at the same time as collapsing the building

[@dikranovichk5889]

Is willy the janitor, the same person as Willy the clown?

[@KowBoySpace]

But the building didnt collapse ftom the bottom so whst did your conspirators put bombs in the basement for ? What you actually mean is some people heard explosions after the planes hit. Yes they did jet fuel went down tbe lift shafts

[@littlefluffybushbaby7256]

@@dikranovichk5889 Wiley Coyote

[@RK-ln6kg]

Just because it doesnt make any sense then we will regard it as a conspiracy. Thats how theorist get away making accusations.

[@corey2232]

This is such a good lecture, yet conspiracy theorists will never accept anything you say. You're not even saying these things couldn't have happened, you are explaining why acting certain in the face of uncertainty, latching on to anomalies (like discounting thousands of witnesses saying they think they saw a passenger plane, yet singling out the one guy who said he saw a cargo plane) and spending most of your efforts arguing why you don't like the official stories instead of providing evidence for your own... these things don't make your beliefs true. But none of that matters to conspiracy theorists, just like my comment doesn't matter either. Their only interest is finding ways to fit things into what they already believe, while everything else can be ignored.

[@threeminuteshate]

You’re 100% correct. Presenting any evidence (whether about this, about Sandy Hook, about COVID) they will just claim you’re a sheep or are part of the conspiracy yourself. There’s been a comment made on this video about WTC7 since you made your comment. I started to reply but quickly thought, “What’s the use?”

[@happierabroad]

Not true. Usually 9/11 truthers are UNBIASED and did NOT want to believe in the inside job explanation. It's only after a lot of painstaking OBJECTIVE research that they come to that conclusion, which is purely evidence based. Look up Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Or see the documentary "September 11: The New Pearl Harbor" by Massimo Mazzuco. Or "Zero: An Investigation into 9/11" which is one of the best documentaries.

[@Daneiladams555]

No I won’t accept what he says cause it’s bull shit

[@Rafflewafflez]

He is literally disregarding anyone who believes the conspiracies. He is doing the ‘they are deplorable’ Schtick

[@Sounds.Lighting64]

Because it's all lies and we have proof.

[@fillipo1972]

The official story with it's numerous holes and weaknesses is indeed a conspiracy theory.

[@ChefMmasmoudi]

How much money were you paid. Have a lecture on Covid and the good of vaccination...

[@mooneyes2k478]

Right. So, "oh, no, my FAIRY TALE! The meany RUINED it! SOMETHING STUPID AND IRRELEVANT! There! That showed everyone!" It did. Didn't show anyone anything you wanted, but that's something else...

[@thedogtutor4998]

The top 20% of the building collapsed the lower stronger 80% . . Thats why demolition companies use this method to demolish buildings now, just blow up the top of it 😅😅😅

[@norbertomoran4575]

Bingo

[@FCWW87]

You harp on “selective evidence” but you are using that same tactic.

[@davidkettelle1581]

A single plane hitting a single spot on the tower, blowing a hole and burning off most of the jet fuel out the other end, DOES NOT RESULT in free fall collapse of a steel framed building that was built thicker at the bottom and thinner as the building construction gets higher. At most, it should have FALLEN OVER, at the point where the plane struck. Do not believe this lousy POS, if anyone on here ever gets to meet this speaker, crack his jaw.

[@johnmcclean343]

As a commercial pilot who lost not only fellow colleagues and so many innocent lives this is pretty despicable to give any of this credence.

[@andrewgodfrey6072]

Is it possible to have the belief that you are giving credence to searching the truth specifically in honor to those who lost their lives? If someone was anti Vietnam war also not empathetic to those innocent people losing their lives?

[@joshd3192]

@@andrewgodfrey6072 I see you moved your conspiracy nonsense to a different thread. So what truth would you be talking about?

[@mogadon7]

@@andrewgodfrey6072 Before you start dismissing everything, take a look at JFK's head on frame 313, Zapruder film. As it explodes look 6 feet above. A bullet going straight up from the storm drain (Jack Lawrence).

[@billb7876]

Who gives a toss what your job is matey, we should not be censored because it upsets your feelings. The whole thing was a scam just like convid

[@mooneyes2k478]

Give what credence? The idiocies dreamt up by the "truthers"? Yeah, that it is. But, no matter how much they cry about "remember the families", etc, not one of them care about that. All they care about is being right. To show to themselves and their herd-mates how SMRT they are! SEE? THEY figured it out!

[@davidanderzun7659]

My favourite 9/11 memory was Donald Rumsfelds press conference on 9/10, where he declared the Pentagon could not account for 2.3 TRILLION dollars from the budget. What a wild coincidence that the “plane” that hit the Pentagon impacted precisely the offices investigating the missing $$$$ and destroying all evidence in the process..What are the odds?? Oh, there was one other back up copy of the accounting documents..but, they were held in WTC7. I shit you not. Easily verifiable.

[@naysayer1238]

Meaningless. The DoD mentioned this number of transactions that could not be tracked more than a year earlier.

[@davidanderzun7659]

@@naysayer1238, I’m with you bro. People who suggest the money for covert operations and foreign regime takeovers (democratically elected, or otherwise) has to come from somewhere are clearly Russian bots. America, fuck yeah!

[@brucelansberg5485]

_"My favourite 9/11 memory was Donald Rumsfelds press conference on 9/10, where he declared the Pentagon could not account for 2.3 TRILLION dollars from the budget."_ Have you actually watched that presentation (which was not a press conference by the way)? Please read the quote and see what is actually being said. It's not the money that's unaccounted for. "According to some estimates we cannot track 2.3 trillion USD IN TRANSACTIONS". The keyword here is "transactions". It was part of his Excellence and Logistics Week kickoff speech. And within its context: "The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it’s stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible." Rumsfeld was talking about an IT/accounting issue. System A could not talk to system B. Why would he admit money went missing the day before any alleged evidence would be destroyed? That makes zero sense. _"What a wild coincidence that the “plane” that hit the Pentagon impacted precisely the offices investigating the missing $$$$ and destroying all evidence in the process."_ Yet another nonsensical and unsubstantiated claim. Part of the hit wing housed the Resource Services Washington office, which is a budgeting department. 65 people were working in that department and 34 lost their lives in the attack. They kept track of a 3.5 billion USD budget that funded the Army's Washington area operations and some installations around the world. There is no single piece of evidence these people were doing an investigation for missing money that never went missing. Any paperwork that would have gone missing, would have been digitally backed up. Off site. _"Oh, there was one other back up copy of the accounting documents..but, they were held in WTC7."_ Now you're just making up stuff. But let me ask you this: if you'd own some compromising document in your home that you needed to be destroyed, would you demolish your home of would you simply shred that document? _"I shit you not. Easily verifiable."_ Great. Would you mind posting your source then?

[@haraldthorson9153]

Uhm yeah, someone "debunk" this please.

[@justinabajian1087]

@@haraldthorson9153 like the other guy said, meaningless. Multiple times government has lost accounting of their spending with no explanation and no consequences I’m aware of

[@julianreiss9233]

Are you saying that fire damage caused a perfect controlled collapse whis very well documented This has never happened before how did they have time to install the explosives to to do this perfect pancake like collapse

[@museprof]

Molten aluminum has a silvery, reflective appearance. Molten steel glows orange-red. These metals do not look the same, as the speaker claims. So that does appear to be molten steel pouring out of the building. Also, the jet fuel burned up explosively in a handful of seconds, which I do not think would be long enough to melt steel or even weaken it significantly. The burning office furniture etc. would not be hot enough to melt or weaken steel. And yet glowing steel was being pulled up from the pile by excavators for a long time after the collapse and after the fires had gone out. Temperature scans from above the WTC complex showed hot spots of many hundreds of degrees for several months afterward. Multi-ton chunks of debris were hurled hundreds of feet laterally at something like 60 miles an hour, and the concrete was pulverized into dust. Both of these are difficult to explain with gravity alone.

[@museprof]

These are points in favor of the controlled-demolition theory, obviously. Results like that are hard to explain with jet fuel and office fires, and easier to explain with a combination of explosives and thermate.

[@museprof]

​​@@howardfinkel4081By "it" I take you to be referring to explosives and thermate. Well, there was that peer-reviewed scientific paper that found thermate residue in the 9-11 debris -- that's direct evidence. And there's loads of circumstantial evidence that makes a strong cumulative case: • all the things I mentioned above, e.g. the lateral ejection of heavy chunks -- similar to how you can't see the wind directly, but you can see its effects and thus infer its presence • audio and video recordings of loud booms in the minutes before collapse • eyewitness testimonies of people saying they heard a series of loud cracks like firecrackers, closely spaced at regular intervals, which is characteristic of controlled demolitions • people who worked in the towers saying there was an unprecedented complete power-down of systems the weekend before 9-11, as well as loud construction-like sounds coming from floors above that were supposed to be unoccupied and sealed off • "elevator crews" were doing an elevator overhaul in the weeks leading up to 9-11, giving them access to all the internal structure of the building • etc. etc. No single point in isolation provides definitive proof, but they all point in the same direction and make a strong cumulative case. I think Sherlock Holmes' old adage is applicable here: once you have eliminated all other possibilities, the only remaining one, no matter how improbable it seems, must be the truth.

[@museprof]

​@@howardfinkel4081You're right, it's evidence of controlled demolition. But controlled demolition itself is suggestive of an inside job. Who is more likely to have had access to the technology and experience and money needed to pull it off, people within the government or a ragtag bunch of hijackers from overseas?

[@museprof]

​​@@howardfinkel4081

[@museprof]

​@@howardfinkel4081You keep using that word "evidence". I do not think it means what you think it means. There's no talking to people like you, clearly. Enjoy your closed mind.

[@schneir5]

I think one of the saddest things I've read, regarding 9/11 is that the people trying to rescue people stuck in the rubble would fake rescues, just to cheer up the dogs because not finding anyone was making the dogs really depressed.

[@happierabroad]

No one claims that. That's a pure straw man.

[@franciscorompana2985]

Dogs died from asbestos. 😢

[@fredjones7705]

@@franciscorompana2985 No the Dogs died from old age. Asbestos didn't have time to kill them.

[@franciscorompana2985]

@@fredjones7705 how are you certain of this. The towers had plenty of asbestos to kill all of the fireman but not the dogs. Ok!

[@humanbeing2420]

That's ridiculous. There's no need to fake a rescue to cheer up a dog. Just give the dog something edible or some affection and they're good to go.

[@NickkaDUB]

Some of those survival stories from the Pentagon aren’t very good ones. One whistleblower claimed when she hit the power button on her computer that all of her computers and TVs exploded in hers and numerous offices right before whatever it was hit the building. You also mentioned the plane pieces. A lot of them show a White with orange material and millions of tiny fragments that didn’t match how the supposed plane was built. It did happen to match a newer technology that’s built into our stealth choppers where if they need to destroy their own chopper, it breaks everything into small fragments so that it can’t be reverse engineered. The planes don’t match the story. Sounds more like the official story is the conspiracy theory.

[@magicstars3419]

Don't let that slip. They'll hunt you down and kill you for exposing the truth. Take note of how Loose Change and similar documentaries have disappeared from the Internet

[@roysmith3767]

' Solving 9-11 by Christopher Bollyn . kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGLMp5mgo7OigMU

[@janeclarkesq5797]

actually the official story is a conspiracy which is where two or more people conspire to commit a crime! Chapter 18 of the United States Code, Section 371, makes it a federal crime for “two or more persons [to] conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose.” 2 In addition, one or more of these persons engaged in the conspiracy must act in a way that furthers the conspiracy itself. 3

[@Forensource]

You just make your silly shit up.

[@stratocaster539]

TATA STEEL set fire to a multi-story car park that was full of vehicles containing fuel tanks filled with petrol and diesel. The building was made from concrete with a steel frame plus rebar. It burned for 3 days before they finally extinguished the fire. On inspection they reported that the structure had not suffered any significant damage and that only handrails had suffered any distortion and had not melted due to the intense heat.They wrote the bible on steel building construction and that's why all modern high rise towers are constructed that way. Fire cannot totally demolish a high rise building constructed of concrete and steel.

[@brucelansberg5485]

You know what would be a great start? To get your facts straight. None of the collapsed towers had any concrete as part of their construction. I hope you realize why that is important. I also hope you understand how the engineering of all three towers differed from conventional engineering. _"They wrote the bible on steel building construction"_ Nonsense. _"that's why all modern high rise towers are constructed that way."_ Even more nonsensical. Tata doesn't dictate how engineers design buildings. _"Fire cannot totally demolish a high rise building constructed of concrete and steel."_ This is getting boring. Please study the design of the towers before you spew even more nonsense. While at it, please study the collapse sequences as presented by NIST. NIST never claimed fires alone caused the towers to collapse. This is getting ridiculous.

[@mooneyes2k478]

Oh, you're repeating your nonsense again. What do you know.

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@stratocaster539 Ah, yes. SCIENCE, complete with capital S! MUCH evocative! And meaningless. The idea of a "truther" calling others "creationist"? Is so sharply ironic it cuts. So, how're you coming along with even remotely an attempt to defend your nonsense inventions? Still haven't managed it?

[@stratocaster539]

you admit Science is meaningless to you

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@stratocaster539 That'd be a no, then. Much shock by no-one.

[@bazra19]

The Conspirators were the people in power; NOT, the people that seek Alternative Theories, so we should be called Alternative Theory Seekers.

[@rachmunshine9474]

And I’m sure you can talk about it on your alternative news. @@ maybe Kellyanne Conway can host.

[@bazra19]

@@rachmunshine9474 not sure how to do that? Lead me,

[@randallschutte375]

Biggest crime scene in the world and the steel was removed cleaned up and evidence destroyed extremely quickly!

[@mooneyes2k478]

Making stupid shit about "crime scene" up, and not being able to understand "nine months"? Only mean you're a liar who can't manage basic time-telling.

[@Oldschooldan1]

It took 10 months to clear the site and and an additional 2 months to go thru all the debris at Freshkills. It took 1.7 million man hours to go thru the debris. They recovered 4,257 pieces of human remains. I wouldn't call that quick, but it certainly looks like it was thorough.

[@frankwiersma5163]

Very interesting lecture video, just a shame the Q&A questions are not repeated out loud. No you have to guess the questions.

[@jeremylarson6267]

better than misrepresenting the answer, i suppose

[@docairline5016]

This issss Jeopardy

[@mvwmark8955]

I don't believe there was even an audience there!

[@bobs8005]

@@mvwmark8955great conspiracy theory!

[@calvins_hat]

10:13 the amazing thing is, you can cast doubt on literally anything in existence with those 4 claims

[@KzudemRiM]

Remember, the evidence is never faked if the conspiracy theorist can use it to explain his theory!

[@brianr8081]

My best friends were on the roof of Northrop Grumman near the Pentagon and saw the plane. I didn't, because our employer sent me off to a site a few hours away in a town called somerset pa....12 miles from where 93 crashed and was witnessed by the manager of the site I was working at. And so when my new coworker is explaining to me how there was never a plane it's just gross. I said "just say it, just tell me the earth is flat too" "dude once you start to do the research......." I've already noticed it's extremely difficult to teach him anything related to refrigeration. He thinks he's already figured out some other thing - which is objectively wrong - but if he doesn't get it in a few seconds he proudly reverts to his preconceived notions. 27 years I've been in refrigeration and yet he better trusts his preconceived notions. Dunning Kruger. Is it overconfidence or lack of self awareness, who knows but he's one of the most confident people I've ever met.

[@mooneyes2k478]

Proper response, "What do you know of research?"

[@Larry26-f1w]

Fake comment Reply from OP

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@Larry26-f1w You already said that, oh, your "supervisors" are REALLY mad at you, huh?

[@Larry26-f1w]

@@mooneyes2k478send a postcard from the Alamo Fitz , I got your number pal !!!

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@Larry26-f1w That you have no idea what you said doesn't surprise anyone. Also doesn't change anything. You still failed. No argument, and a desperate attempt to pretend otherwise.

[@JMan-24]

Keeping an open mind here. But from the start he is implying that all CTs are false which they are not. Example: what is the best part of being a conspiracy theorist? No myocarditis.

[@toprope_]

One of the most important sayings in life is “Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity.” The White House knowing something was going on wouldn’t have been insane. But thinking any potential situation they’d have been monitoring could have went that badly? There’s a reason ALL of America was taken by surprise.

[@blackXhawksXkickXbut]

I think that we probably had actionable intelligence about an impending attack that either wasn't taken seriously enough, or got caught up in the bureaucracy. I think we could have acted quicker after the first reports of a hijacking to suspend further take offs and scramble fighter jets. But were there explosives rigged in the tower, no.

[@billyumbraskey8135]

if incompetence was the causal factor in why these attacks were so "successful," then why were all the key figures atthe levers of power charged with preventing such catastrophies not only NOT fired, but many were PROMOTED to higher offices?

[@neurocidesakiwi]

@@billyumbraskey8135 thats how government works, you don't take ownership or hold people accountable for failures. They fail up.

[@billyumbraskey8135]

@@neurocidesakiwi oh, ok! good enough for me! they are just that bad at everything BUT ALSO we should just take them at their word. they are only incompetent when it comes to actually performing their duties. they have vast competence in explaining those failures. got it!! thanks man! makes perfect sense. fail upward!

[@mrweed6932]

​@billyumbraskey8135 you don't get a government position by proving that you can actually do the job you get the position by convincing people that you can do the job

[@Ricardo-go7yu]

@58:01 Firefighter heard explosions. Concrete floors pancaking or collapsing would sound like an explosion. The floors were 4 inches of concrete.

[@mooneyes2k478]

There were, in fact, no lack of things to make loud noises, or even explode....none of which were explosives. Water pipes bursting, massive lead-acid UPS batteries going up, etc, etc.

[@julielockett1812]

Fireman didn't say he heard explosions he said he heard the floors falling on top of each other bang bang bang, he didn't say explisions

[@Whirrrlpoool]

The buildings were designed to perfectly collapse in upon themselves in case of a fire. The flimsy floors- overburdened with concrete, furniture, people, etc.- would pull the steel beams inward. It's as if you filled a hammock with cinder blocks til it collapsed. The people never had a chance.

[@zchettaz]

@@julielockett1812 If it were the case that the "explosion" sounds were the floors hitting each other as they collapsed, then shouldn't we logically expect each floor to be providing some resistance to the collapse? What im getting at is that the floors below the fire and impact shouldnt have lost their structural integrity, so if "explosion" sounds were the floors pancaking ontop of each other, why is it that the buildings collapsed at a near (99%) freefall speed?

[@dikranovichk5889]

@zchettaz, Z, when the north tower collapsed, did you notice, how a portion of the building remained standing for several seconds after the collapse of the rest of the building?

[@ApeAlchemist]

I am going to start my own demolition business. After viewing 911 I believe I can outbid any other contractor quite easily with a few drums of jet fuel. I will bring down the largest and most robust buildings in an afternoon whilst all the others fumble around for weeks rigging the buildings with explosives.

[@tpryce6243]

Sure, if you don’t mind destroying adjacent buildings and causing a massive environmental mess.

[@BasedinReality1984]

Other than the building literally falling over flat on their sides, it couldn’t have been more uncontrolled.

[@arlrb76]

​@@tpryce6243still glued to the road?

[@tpryce6243]

@@arlrb76 Uh huh. Anything else?

[@arlrb76]

@@tpryce6243 are you using your nose to type?

[@steveperryman8102]

Even more interesting is the fact that the most entitled, comfortable, opulent people on the planet often feel they are repressed in some way. We could all do with a reality check. No matter how wonderful people's existence is they will always focus on negatives and completely lose a sense of proportion.

[@tomr6955]

100%

[@squatch545]

Speak for yourself. Most people are not living a wonderful opulent life. And even you yourself are under totalitarian surveillance. What a pathetic and naive comment. The govt loves people like you.

[@anthonydilullo5794]

I think the speaker planted the charges,

[@ElSanGuapo]

So the light stuff (fuselage) cut though the steel columns like a hot knife through butter, but the heaviest part of the plane (engines) bounced off and ejected 4 blocks away. How does anyone take this guy seriously! LMAO

[@KickTruthersInTheface]

OK, twoofer.

[@mooneyes2k478]

By actually understanding the facts, THAT'S how. You, on the other hand, amply illustrated that you fail to understand even the basics.

[@norbertomoran4575]

@@KickTruthersInThefaceSuch a powerful argument. I think you completely dismantled every argument made against the official narrative with it. Well done.

[@robertjanicki3036]

Yes, thin aircraft alloy skinned tail section is lying in a complete state at base of collapsed tower!?!?!??

[@tomr6955]

There are so many errors in this. It's almost as if he quickly Googled and then made a presentation, but had errors as well.

[@kelleycameron6049]

This guy doesn’t debunk anything! Whoever thinks we aren’t feed bullshit on a daily basis! Is sadly mistaken in my eyes !

[@timshea4279]

What do you need debunked then?

[@karenbooth9978]

@@timshea4279 Government shill

[@zapdunga12]

Maybe it wasn't an inside job at all. Maybe it was really an outside job.😊

[@clinteranovic8075]

No! You are not being patriotic and brave and a seeker of justice and an end to wars etc. Structural collapses are boring. The worst thing that could happen to these truthers would be to find that there were structural collapses of the buildings. They are not going to let that happen...

[@villerintanthillith1762]

Maybe it was an inside unemployment 🤔

[@theTavis01]

@@clinteranovic8075 obviously the structures collapsed. The question is HOW they collapsed, and the evidence is absolutely overwhelming that explosives were used.

[@christiancostello9562]

@@theTavis01what evidence?

[@theTavis01]

@@christiancostello9562 the video evidence, physical evidence, eye witness testimony, etc.

[@JoshuaPiekos-sz7tf]

CNN interviewed the most wanted man in the world on June 28, 2001. Why would Bin Laden let western media know his location? Why didnt they get him if they knew exactly where he was?

[@tpryce6243]

Ayatollah Khomeini went on 60 minutes in 1979, why didn't they "get" him? Moammar Gadhafi went on ABC in 2011, why didn't they "get" him?

[@norbertomoran4575]

@@tpryce6243That doesn’t answer the question. Want to try again?

[@tpryce6243]

@@norbertomoran4575 Which question did I not answer?

[@markgraham1382]

jesus this guys arguments are so shallow,his name should be puddle..or puddled,,

[@robertjanicki3036]

Lol.... Sorry not funny, u r right.....

[@johndonwood4305]

Remember the dancers who took time off from their shift as urban movers in a system.

[@TheMiddleClassholes]

The guys who show up AFTER the first plane hit? Yeah....neat story.

[@roysmith3767]

' Solving 9-11 by Christopher Bollyn . '

[@roysmith3767]

@@TheMiddleClassholes kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGLMp5mgo7OigMU

[@TheMiddleClassholes]

@@roysmith3767 The guy reviews a book. NEAT!

[@c.augustedupin2559]

@@TheMiddleClassholes lol lol lol

[@guitarxy1948]

Cracked pots exist. Generally, the conspiratorial mind, once engaged, resists the possibility of other explanations.

[@hawks4305]

Cool story bro

[@naysayer1238]

@@hawks4305 Crack pot triggered.

[@Jenseduca]

How did you figure that out? Was there a survay or studie of some kind. What do you base your "generally" upon? Here is my take on this: generally, the conspiratorial mind engages when there are no reasonable explanations left.

[@littlefluffybushbaby7256]

Do you have any evidence of that? Ha ha

[@melisentiapheiffer3034]

Tell that to George Bush, who claimed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

[@Rocketman0407]

I am not really sure what is true or not. Probably the only thing I find kind of weird is the skills of the pilots. The schools said some of the Terrorist was not even allowed to fly solo they where that horrible. Any pilots here that could tell me about this?

[@mejestic124]

Exactly!, the guy who thought to be flying the pentagon plane was not even allowed to fly a single engine aircraft, he is so incompatible that the instructor forbidden him from flying even a trainer aircraft. sadly no one is going to acknowledge that.

[@Rocketman0407]

@@mejestic124 yes top that off with the documentary where the Italian Pilot tries to crash into pentagon in the same way in a flight simulator, but he can't. He even has several attempts.

[@mejestic124]

@@Rocketman0407 are you from US

[@littlefluffybushbaby7256]

They had flying lessons. Not yet being allowed to fly solo doesn't mean you are not able to fly. I have not yet gone solo but I have still flown and landed aircraft. If you look at the angle they hit the towers it wasn't like that of a professional pilot but like that of amateurs who knew enough to crash into a building. The towers were big targets and stood out on the landscape. Generally people get flight training so they won't crash into buildings. Crashing is the easy bit of flying. Not the hard bit. Anyone can do it.

[@Jacob-og9pz]

Thermite, destroyed lobby, secondary explosions

[@Synaptic_gap]

Thermite is not an explosive and is not used in controlled demolitions and the alleged "evidence" of thermite ignores the multiple sources of such material on a construction project such as the WTC. The lobby explosion was caused by a portion of the 10,000 gallons of jet fuel being funneled down the elevator shafts essentially creating a thermobaric explosion. The reports of secondary explosions are easily explained by the upper floors pancaking as well as the extreme air pressure differentials caused by the rapid collapse of the structure.

[@Jacob-og9pz]

@@Synaptic_gap youre sick

[@melisentiapheiffer3034]

​​​@@Synaptic_gapthe jet fuel theory is assisine. When planes crash on the ground, will you find unburned fuel on the ground?

[@melisentiapheiffer3034]

​​@@Synaptic_gapAlso, the resistance of the lower half of the building should have halted the progression of the falling top floors. 😂

[@Synaptic_gap]

@@melisentiapheiffer3034 You clearly have zero physics or structural engineering knowledge. It wasn't a matter of the lower half of the building halting anything, the collapse occured 1 floor at a time, from the impact zone downward. And no, the structural elements of a single floor of the WTC which employed what was, at that time, a novel construction method that relied primarily on external shell of the building to carry loads. The core, as well, was constructed of steel columns not nearly as stable as reinforced concrete that is used in most high rise building cores. The collapse witnessed is exactly what would be expected when 10's of thousands of tons of steel, concrete floors, and all of their contents accelerate suddenly.

[@reedpeterson719]

A 747 size plane smacks into the side of Pentagon. Does anyone have pictures of the plane wreckage sticking out of the building?

[@blackXhawksXkickXbut]

How would an aircraft traveling at a couple hundred mph survive a crash into a concrete building?

[@babyyoda3694]

No there wasn't much wreckage to be seen at the Pentagon or Shanksville.

[@blackXhawksXkickXbut]

@@babyyoda3694 there was the wreckage of a whole ass plane, it’s just that conspiracy theorists point at pictures taken after evidence collection and claim no wreckage. No duh there’s no wreckage in those pictures it’s all already in warehouses for the investigation.

[@zachg9065]

It was a 757, smaller than a 747, going that fast there wouldn't be much left

[@gking300]

​@@zachg9065well the two 6 ton titanium Rolls-Royce engines would definitely be found not to mention the fuselage the seats or the people

[@johnstoddard4692]

This is an amazing lecture ! I hope that you recieve the academy award for best actor !

[@mooneyes2k478]

So, what was wrong? Detail and list, with supporting evidence!

[@autdelux]

@@mooneyes2k478 we saw what evidence is supressed over time and what remains left that should tell you everything. why jad building 7 collaped it was a little fire? tell us enlighten us mr smart looked a bit like a planned blow up like they do in contruction the whole building was down in a few seconds ^^ im ready for your insight and btw you will not find any official invetigation since they just exclude that from the 911 report all together ;) i remember how many construction specialists where outraged back then because of it since it was so obvious what happend. alright your turn tell me what happend and how you remember the events back then how old where you back then or do you only feed your view on what other ppl tell you? i was 19 years old and follwed the whole process unfolding heard every voice every report every eye witness every video at a time when it was fresh and untampered and way harder to supress. not like today where ppl just cant imagine how far they would go to do this. how convinient a passport fell out of the plane in good condition from a highchecker how amazing that the 200 billion missing in black budget where never talked again after this since happy thing the evidene got destroyed in B7. how convinient the pillars had residue of termite on it and where cut beautifully diagononal by a plane crash 50 storys above. how convinient the tower fell in mere free fall have you ever seen a skyscraper burning it takes days to burn and its impossible to fall down like the towers did into itself story by story in free fall speed. i mean why do you think hundrets of architects have filed a report to tell us that this is impossible by a plane crash? how fast do you think you get shot down if you diviate a plane in us airspace especialy when you go towards a big city? 10min 20min 30min over an hour? why do you think the binladens and friends where allowed to fly out when all air traffc was closed? that was just a tiny bit of what is not adding up if you can explain these things i give you 10 more and after you explain these 10 things i give you another 10 things and another lets see how long you can do this

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@autdelux Which part of "detail and list with evidence" did you not understand?

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@autdelux Paragraph /ˈparəɡrɑːf/ noun "A distinct section of a piece of writing, usually dealing with a single theme." Punctuation /ˌpʌŋ(k)tʃʊˈeɪʃn/ noun "The marks, such as full stop, comma, and brackets, used in writing to separate sentences and their elements and to clarify meaning." Spelling /ˈspel·ɪŋ/ noun "The forming of words with the letters in the correct order, or the way in which a word is formed." You're welcome.

[@melisentiapheiffer3034]

Yes. There are lots of non - thinkers in the comment section. Critical thinking is not our enemy!

[@LuigiMordelAlaume]

34:33 MY EVIDENCE IS SUPER STRONG YOU'RE BEING LIED TO!!!! But seriously, that's hilarious... I've never thought about it before, but you know you got under someone's skin when they bust out the caps lock

[@theTavis01]

but that's a really poor strawman fallacy, considering that the 9/11 truth movement is being led by a group of professional engineers and architects and firefighters and pilots and lawyers, and family members of victims.

[@BoyPadForDan]

“There is no conspiracy, look at these puppies”

[@autdelux]

of course not why would they even lie to us? impossible ppl are so smart today they have solved everything that came before them they educate themself in youtube and share all the truth on social media we truly life in an enlightend time ppl where never smarter than today. awww nice puppies

[@Beatlefan67]

Interesting that there are 'Pilots for 9/11 Truth' and 'Architects for 9/11 Truth'. There are a lot of them and they all disagree with this guy.

[@tpryce6479]

What’s so interesting about that?

[@timshea4279]

P4911T was more or less one person, Rob Balsamo. Some other pilots joined and participated in his forum, but his "250 airline professionals" were mostly mechanics, flight attendants and baggage handlers. His nonsense was easily seen through and never gained traction. The final nail in the coffin, both literally and figuratively, occurred last year when he died. AE911T as an organization never had more than a dozen active board members. Despite pronouncing to have "over 3000 professionals", the vast majority are simple petition signers for a "new investigation", whatever that means, and have no participation whatsoever. And only a very small minority of this group actual have the education, experience and credentials to offer an opinion on complex high rise collapses.

[@mikebyrd8278]

They are also batshit crazy and cannot even come up with a single scenario of how 9/11 even happened

[@gustorena7609]

How did building 7 come down ?

[@arlrb76]

Controlled demolition

[@happierabroad]

But professor, how did the hijackers get into the cockpits of the planes? The cockpit doors are closed and secure, and no airline captain would allow hijackers to take control of the cockpit. Every airline captain you can ask will say this. That has never been explained. It's not as easy as you think to get into the cockpit or take out the pilots. They would never give up control of the plane like that. Moreover, the captains never pushed the emergency button to report a hijacking. That's never been explained either.

[@CupidStunt72]

It is different now as planes have re-inforced doors & only the pilots can open said door. In 2001 this wasn't the case as I believe other crew members could access the cabin. I'm guessing the hijackers smashed their way in or forced a crew member to enter the code to open the door to the cabin

[@Fr33zeBurn]

They didn't need to allow them access to the cockpit. The pilots probably had their throats cut or something.

[@brucelansberg5485]

_"how did the hijackers get into the cockpits of the planes? The cockpit doors are closed and secure"_ As a result of of what happened on 9/11, nowadays they are indeed. Before that you could even ask the pilot to come in and he'd show you the cockpit. _"no airline captain would allow hijackers to take control of the cockpit"_ Not sure if allowing is relevant ater your throat has been slid. _"the captains never pushed the emergency button to report a hijacking. That's never been explained either."_ See above.

[@BludShotiiiiis]

can someone explain to me how any of those passengers made phone connections at altitude in 2001? or how on the recorded calls there seems to be no background noise within the aircraft? Bose noise cancelling headphones were popular for that very reason...to cancel out the racket. i wont bother asking how a rookie pilot could fly an aircraft at virtually sea level across a lawn without so much as a blade of grass out of place.

[@brucelansberg5485]

_"can someone explain to me how any of those passengers made phone connections at altitude in 2001? "_ Seatback phones. _"how on the recorded calls there seems to be no background noise within the aircraft?"_ Because phones (or seatback phones) allow only a specific frequency band to pass. Because the calls were made from the back of the plane. Because the recording we hear was taped. _"i wont bother asking how a rookie pilot could fly an aircraft at virtually sea level across a lawn without so much as a blade of grass out of place."_ That "rookie pilot" had obtained a commercial license from the FAA. None of the planes flew level for more than a few dozen of ft. And if you think flight 93 didn't hit anything but the buildings, I'd recommend to research that claim a little bit better.

[@c.eb.1216]

You can make phone calls if you're within range of a tower, plus there used to be satellite phones. Airplane mode exists so the signals won't interfere with the instruments during takeoff.

[@creativeamerican8811]

@@brucelansberg5485The plane didn’t hit anything but the buildings… the grass was completely sound. A missile hit the pentagon. You have to be living in a dream world if you think a licensed FAA pilot can sit in an airliner after hijacking it during a commercial flight and fly it into the pentagon perfectly… It’s not possible. You have been playing too many video games if you think anyone could have done this.

[@animula6908]

Yes. We can all explain it to you all day. And you don’t want to listen so you won’t. But not because it can’t be explained. It just can’t be explained to you. It’s ok to just believe crazy things because you prefer to. But don’t blame it on the facts.

[@samusvi2693]

how did they know that wtc 7 was going to collapse from a few fires?

[@tpryce9800]

The FDNY made that determination. Feel free to take the issue up with them.

[@CandidDate]

@@tpryce9800 troll

[@tpryce9800]

@@CandidDate Uh huh. Anything else?

[@davidmudry5622]

@@tpryce9800 Gravity on earth's surface is 1g...Everything on earth that they say is in a static weight condition (i.e. said to be standing still like a chair) is being accelerated up at 1g. If you accelerate up in a rocket to the moon you will experience more than 1g and your weight goes up. If you're accelerating down like the twin towers (NIST WTC FAQ 31 says they fell essentially in free fall) then you are accelerating up at less than 1g and you will weigh less than standing still. And essentially in free fall would be essentially no weight force down, or accelerating up at essentially zero g. No weight no collapse, unless the support was removed first.

[@ElSanGuapo]

Asserts with certainty that it is easy to perform the aerial maneuvers in a jumbo jet exhibited in the pentagon crash without much training... then goes on to claim that conspiracy theorists assert certainty where there isn't any. So you're telling us that you're a conspiracy theorist :D

[@mwm48]

You’ll never convince me it wasn’t a frozen fish.

[@calebmakepeace2189]

Literally the weakest presentation I have ever seen trying to support the official story. No intelligent person can dig more than a few inches into the official story before they realize it's complete BS

[@TheMiddleClassholes]

So your mind is made up. Okay. Now why do you pretend to care?

[@mooneyes2k478]

Intelligent *adjective* "Having or showing intelligence, especially of a high level." You're welcome for the meaning of the word you mis-used.

[@deboraprigge5124]

How was it that Fox news reported breaking news on the collapse of tower 7 approximately 20 minutes before it actually collapsed.

[@clinteranovic8075]

Numerous news agencies reported the collapse of WTC7. It was a mistaken report. It was something that everyone was expecting to happen for hours, because the FDNY were sure based on the state of the building that it would collapse. But someone got a false report that it had happened, passed it on, the news agencies reported it and it was not correct. It was a mistaken report. The building hadn't collapsed at that stage and it did a short time later. What is so hard to understand about that?

[@Forensource]

Fox never did, you are just making shit up.

[@roquefortfiles]

The guy who made Loose Stool... Sorry, Loose Change!! has admitted he no longer believes the movie he made. Pretty much says all.

[@JohnfromWaterFrontVillige]

He was just a boy who wanted daddy’s attention.

[@roquefortfiles]

@@JohnfromWaterFrontVillige Those two guys who made it . They pissed me off. Such factually inaccurate nonsense that they sat there and defended it like little arrogant tough guys

[@theTavis01]

@@roquefortfiles I'm so glad that you chose the side of fear and lies instead of truth and courage like a real man.

[@roquefortfiles]

@@theTavis01 The facts dont lie my friend. Controlled demolition?? Wheres the audio? There is none. You cant fit the facts to support your nonsense stories

[@roquefortfiles]

@@theTavis01 I am so sorry that you embrace such complete nonsense. Put out by morons and idiots. The guy who made "Loose Stool" doesn't even believe it anymore. That should tell you everything about these goofs.

[@bobholness203]

What's really annoying is the fact before you're allowed to even ask questions it's shut down straight away. Why does he not talk about aviation speed and height. Different camera angles from the most security building in the world. No black box and yet a paper passport found streets away 🤷🏻

[@mooneyes2k478]

You can ask all the questions you want. But the issue with that is, you also have to be willing and able to accept the answer you're given. When you don't, then just as you're doing here, you're not asking anything, you're JAQing off, pushing your passive-aggressive nonsense on people. "Oh, I'm Just Asking Questions!" What about "aviation speed and height"? Meaningless statement. What "different camera angles"? Again, meaningless. And if you think there's any similarity between an airplane "black box" and a passport, I have this oceanfront property in Nevada you might find interesting.

[@bobholness203]

@@mooneyes2k478 K

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@bobholness203 Like how you admitted it. Very impressive. Good on you!

[@bobholness203]

@clipn6114 just like your mommy

[@Ricardo-go7yu]

@41:08 structural integrity of the beams. The truss rods that supported the floors were incredibly smaller than the beams and were compromised much sooner, not to mention that floors they supported were covered in 4 inches of concrete. And each truss rod support rested on an L bracket that lost its structural integrity. Fire engineers attested to the weakness of the truss supports in many normal fires.

[@i.marr.6688]

Architects have a saying " Never trust a truss" And I believe that's what caused the collapse

[@jeremylarson6267]

@@i.marr.6688 - pretty sure the collapse of the other building into 7 caused the collapse

[@TimJSwan]

and even if the floors could collapse, how would the beams still be standing?

[@jeremylarson6267]

@@TimJSwan - physics

[@jeremylarson6267]

@@Peterbrendanalbert - a significant part of a 110 story building falling into building 7 does do that - again physics, not magic

[@fatherandson4205]

They must have found those windows right next to the driver's license right the passport I mean

[@jimmymcjimmy9743]

" Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive " Sir Walter Scott poem in the 1800's. Still totally relevant to this Deception 200 years later

[@mooneyes2k478]

Oh, don't be silly. Most of the "truthers" don't lie, they're just too dumb to understand basic facts and science.

[@jimmymcjimmy9743]

@@mooneyes2k478 Love it Love it Not addressed to you - but just have to say something offensive.... " Sticks and Stones ...... " etc etc etc

[@mooneyes2k478]

@@jimmymcjimmy9743 So, what you're saying is, you posted something on a public forum, in this case a youtube video, and you got an answer, and now you're all upset about it? Solution would be, don't post stupid shit and flaunt your failures.. Then you won't get called on it.

[@traymil]

I love this one. The FBI were on scene quickly and they started collecting plane parts 😂😂😂. Yeah, that’s exactly what investigators do at crime scenes 🤡 I’m halfway through this and he’s not changed my mind about anything.

[@mooneyes2k478]

You love your fairy tale? Well, whatever makes you happy, I suppose...

[@joshd3192]

"The FBI were on scene quickly and they started collecting plane parts" So they were doing their job by not wanting evidence being tampered with? Gee, you're a genius.

[@cloroxbathroomspray9669]

@@joshd3192When there has been a murder, your first thought is not begin to clean. But rather close the area and investigate. Not start hauling heavy burning engine parts

[@joshd3192]

@@cloroxbathroomspray9669 Uh huh. Anything else?

[@melisentiapheiffer3034]

Your mother gave you over to the government the moment she signed your birth certificate. She relinquished ownership of you by doing that. You are the property of the government, so they can and will do whatever they want to you. The people who died on September 11th were collateral damage 💔

[@mobworksofficial]

What a great description and in depth analysis of the NIST report. Nice work 👏

[@davepowell7168]

🤣 Ya sharpwit You have to be a structural engineer and get to NIST report appendix C eutectic corrosion to see bs Commonsense

[@stevefromsaskatoon830]

Ghost and little green men are here and real .... you've seen them

[@garyjordan7158]

So 2 planes brought down 3 towers ? Glad we cleared that up then.

[@CHX_37]

Kind of like bowling, I guess.

[@chriskazaam896]

You need to understand that the alleged pilot Mohamed Atta could hit a 7 10 split in any pick up bowling match

[@DatcleanMochaJo]

There were only two towers

[@garyjordan7158]

@@DatcleanMochaJo eemmm

[@blackXhawksXkickXbut]

Are you aware that fire can spread?